Latest / Booker Scott: Truth Be Told / Iran Buys More Time 'Negotiating'
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- 0:07Speaker 1: It's six eastern it's three o'clock pacific.
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- 0:17Speaker 3: Replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.
- 0:22Speaker 1: It's time for the truth be told with booker scott
- 0:26Speaker 1: The United States State Department, they've designated Iran as a
- 0:29Speaker 1: state sponsor of terrorism since 1984.
- 0:32Speaker 3: They frequently describe it as the world's leading state sponsor
- 0:37Speaker 3: of terrorism. So much for America not negotiating with terrorists.
- 0:43Speaker 3: I'm Booker. This is The Truth Be Told. Thank you
- 0:46Speaker 3: for joining us live tonight, or if you found us
- 0:49Speaker 3: later on a podcast, thank you for doing that. So
- 0:51Speaker 3: what do we make out of all the negotiations going
- 0:54Speaker 3: on with Iran. Who are we negotiating with? Who is
- 0:58Speaker 3: Donald Trump and his administration? Who are they negotiating with?
- 1:02Speaker 3: Iran keeps saying, well, we're not negotiating. We haven't negotiated
- 1:05Speaker 3: with anyone. And Donald Trump says we're getting presents from Iran,
- 1:10Speaker 3: very expensive presents. I won't tell you what they are
- 1:12Speaker 3: because they're very expensive. And It's really hard to tell
- 1:18Speaker 3: exactly what's going on. Here's what I understand. I understand
- 1:22Speaker 3: that the foreign minister of Iran called from a cell
- 1:25Speaker 3: phone directly to Steve Witkoff's cell phone last Thursday. And
- 1:30Speaker 3: that really started a negotiation. Over the weekend, Donald Trump
- 1:34Speaker 3: put a 48-hour period on Iran to stop bombing or else.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Or else he was going to go after the power
- 1:41Speaker 3: grid and energy supply. And then Iran came to the
- 1:45Speaker 3: table and we're negotiating. But who are we negotiating with?
- 1:50Speaker 3: Who is even in charge? And let's back up and
- 1:53Speaker 3: look at the last year, just the last year with Iran.
- 1:58Speaker 3: You can't really negotiate with these people. You can't trust them.
- 2:00Speaker 3: They lie. And I would point out the missile, the
- 2:03Speaker 3: ballistic missile they just shot off at Diego Garcia over
- 2:07Speaker 3: the weekend. On March 8th, they said, well, we don't
- 2:10Speaker 3: have any ballistic missiles that will go over 2,000 kilometers.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Diego Garcia is 4,000. It's 2,500 miles instead of 1,250 miles,
- 2:20Speaker 3: which they said March 8th, we don't have any missiles
- 2:22Speaker 3: that go over that.
- 2:23Speaker 1: They lie.
- 2:23Speaker 3: That's what they do. If you go back to June
- 2:27Speaker 3: of last year, there was negotiating going on then with Iran.
- 2:32Speaker 3: And right up to the last minute, it didn't work
- 2:35Speaker 3: because it never does with them because they lie. And
- 2:40Speaker 3: what happened? We bombed with a MOAB their capability of
- 2:45Speaker 3: producing nuclear weapons. Although that didn't quite work because we're
- 2:49Speaker 3: doing that again. That happens to be where the concentration
- 2:52Speaker 3: of bombing is going on right now by America. In
- 2:55Speaker 3: Fort O, and those other places that we bombed in June.
- 2:59Speaker 3: That negotiation didn't work. You look at the ceasefire in
- 3:03Speaker 3: Gaza with Hamas. It has worked somewhat, but there were
- 3:07Speaker 3: two parts of that. Don't forget that. The other part
- 3:11Speaker 3: of the negotiation and the ceasefire that took place in
- 3:14Speaker 3: Gaza with Hamas was they had to give up all
- 3:17Speaker 3: of their weapons. And Hamas, to this day, they still
- 3:21Speaker 3: have not done that. Negotiating with Iran never works. But again,
- 3:27Speaker 3: I ask the question, who exactly is in charge in Iran?
- 3:32Speaker 3: Because we're seeing all types of different things. Wednesday morning,
- 3:37Speaker 3: Here's what the Pakistan ambassador said from Iran. He said
- 3:41Speaker 3: there has been no talks between Washington or Tehran after
- 3:44Speaker 3: Donald Trump said progress had been made. We have also
- 3:48Speaker 3: heard such details through the media, but according to my information,
- 3:52Speaker 3: and contrary to Trump's claims, so far no negotiations, direct
- 3:57Speaker 3: or indirect, have taken place between the two countries. He
- 4:01Speaker 3: also added, It was natural that friendly countries are always
- 4:05Speaker 3: engaged in consultations with both sides to end this illegitimate aggression.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Pakistan has said that they would offer their services to
- 4:15Speaker 3: negotiate an end to the conflict in Iran. Meanwhile, you
- 4:19Speaker 3: have the 82nd Airborne has now said they're sending 3,000
- 4:23Speaker 3: troops to the area. You have 5,000 Marines on the way.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Are we going to have boots on the ground? Are
- 4:30Speaker 3: they just there for Karg Island? I don't know. No
- 4:34Speaker 3: one can really answer these questions. But I'm curious who
- 4:36Speaker 3: exactly we are negotiating with. We've killed the top two leaders.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Multiple leaders in Iran have been killed. So who has
- 4:45Speaker 3: the responsibility to do this negotiation? And then what exactly
- 4:51Speaker 3: is America offering in this negotiation? And in return, what
- 4:56Speaker 3: will America and the Arab nations, our allies in Israel,
- 5:00Speaker 3: what will they gain from this? Israeli government, they don't
- 5:05Speaker 3: want America to begin negotiating right now. They want them
- 5:08Speaker 3: to continue to bomb. Of course, that is what Netanyahu
- 5:12Speaker 3: and Israel would always want. We know that. But I
- 5:17Speaker 3: don't know who we're negotiating with. Here's President Donald Trump
- 5:21Speaker 3: from Tuesday.
- 5:22Speaker 4: They're going to make a deal. They're going to make
- 5:24Speaker 4: a deal. They did something yesterday that was amazing, actually.
- 5:27Speaker 4: They gave us a present, and the present arrived today.
- 5:32Speaker 4: It was a very big present worth a tremendous amount
- 5:35Speaker 4: of money.
- 5:36Speaker 3: I don't know what that means exactly. Do you? Have
- 5:40Speaker 3: you seen that? I don't know what Trump's talking about there.
- 5:43Speaker 3: And he says they want to make a deal. I'm
- 5:47Speaker 3: not sure that we should make a deal with terrorists,
- 5:50Speaker 3: especially when we don't even know who is in charge.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Let's go back through some history here, recent history, just
- 5:56Speaker 3: in the last few months. Back in January, there was
- 5:59Speaker 3: a revolt of the people of Iran. 75% of the
- 6:03Speaker 3: Iranian people, they don't want the regime that is in place.
- 6:08Speaker 3: What did that regime do at the time? They killed
- 6:11Speaker 3: thousands of those people in the streets, in cities all
- 6:15Speaker 3: across that country. Donald Trump at the time, he pledged
- 6:18Speaker 3: his support and said, I've got your back. I'm coming.
- 6:22Speaker 3: America is going to be there. So it took some time.
- 6:25Speaker 3: We had to get the air carriers there in the area,
- 6:29Speaker 3: the Navy in the area. Once we were there, we
- 6:33Speaker 3: see what is happening. Maybe the people of Iran thought
- 6:36Speaker 3: that this is it. They have our back. They're coming
- 6:39Speaker 3: to change the regime, which Donald Trump talked about. You
- 6:42Speaker 3: don't hear him talking about that much anymore. I believe
- 6:45Speaker 3: that it's going to be up to the people of
- 6:47Speaker 3: Iran to do that. It can't be done from outside.
- 6:51Speaker 3: It's going to be up to them to do it,
- 6:52Speaker 3: and that time will come. There is a possibility for
- 6:56Speaker 3: regime change at some point. But again, who is in
- 6:59Speaker 3: charge now? Who is America negotiating with? A terrorist? A
- 7:04Speaker 3: terrorist state? What is the deal? That's the thing. What
- 7:09Speaker 3: is the deal? What are we talking about here, President Trump?
- 7:13Speaker 4: And I'm not going to tell you what that president is,
- 7:15Speaker 4: but it was a very significant....
- 7:20Speaker 1: Prize.
- 7:22Speaker 4: And they gave it to us and they said they
- 7:23Speaker 4: were going to give it. So that meant one thing
- 7:25Speaker 4: to me would deal with the right people. No, it
- 7:28Speaker 4: wasn't nuclear. It was oil and gas related.
- 7:32Speaker 3: And he said that meant to me that we are
- 7:34Speaker 3: dealing with the right people because America got a present.
- 7:39Speaker 3: We don't know what the present is, but because we
- 7:42Speaker 3: got the present from Iran, whether we actually received it
- 7:46Speaker 3: or not, we don't know. But because of that, Donald
- 7:50Speaker 3: Trump says that we're dealing with the right people. Let's
- 7:54Speaker 3: go back in history again and look at the progression here.
- 7:59Speaker 3: The objective of this was ballistic missiles and nuclear sites
- 8:05Speaker 3: at the beginning. The Strait of Hormuz then shut down,
- 8:09Speaker 3: and then it became about negotiating for the Strait of
- 8:12Speaker 3: Hormuz to be reopened because if not, the oil prices
- 8:16Speaker 3: are going to shoot up. And they're going to stay up.
- 8:18Speaker 3: And the gas prices for Americans and our bank accounts
- 8:21Speaker 3: are going to be affected. So now the negotiation has
- 8:25Speaker 3: to do with opening the Strait of Hormuz. There has
- 8:29Speaker 3: been a progression here through this. Is it about the
- 8:32Speaker 3: people of Iran having a regime change? Is it about
- 8:37Speaker 3: nuclear capabilities? Is it about ballistic missile sites? Now it's
- 8:44Speaker 3: about the Strait of Hormuz and oil. It's about all
- 8:48Speaker 3: of it, isn't it? It really is. But I'm interested
- 8:52Speaker 3: about the 15-point plan that they say they have with
- 8:56Speaker 3: Iran and that that's what they're negotiating on. It's a framework.
- 9:00Speaker 3: It's a framework right now. But opening the Strait of
- 9:03Speaker 3: Hormuz is right there at the top. Not having any
- 9:08Speaker 3: nuclear weapons is right there at the top for America
- 9:12Speaker 3: in this negotiation with Iran. You're not going to have
- 9:15Speaker 3: the capability of enriching any uranium in the country, is
- 9:20Speaker 3: what Donald Trump's administration is saying. By the way, they
- 9:24Speaker 3: no longer want to negotiate with Steve Witkoff. This is
- 9:28Speaker 3: according to CNN Wednesday morning. They now only want to
- 9:31Speaker 3: negotiate with J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio are
- 9:36Speaker 3: also in the negotiations. What else is in this 15-point plan? Well,
- 9:43Speaker 3: And again, it's a framework. It is not written in stone.
- 9:46Speaker 3: It's a point of the negotiation. What does Iran get?
- 9:51Speaker 3: There are three things that Iran will get as a
- 9:54Speaker 3: result of doing this, and one of them is they
- 9:57Speaker 3: are taking away the snapback. If you remember back when
- 10:02Speaker 3: Barack Obama was negotiating with Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism,
- 10:07Speaker 3: so yes, we do negotiate with terrorists. Obviously, we've negotiated
- 10:12Speaker 3: with Iran for a long time. I'm just saying it
- 10:14Speaker 3: never works. because they weren't supposed to be enriching uranium
- 10:18Speaker 3: to 60%, which they did, and they admit that they did.
- 10:22Speaker 3: They weren't supposed to be having ballistic missiles that would
- 10:25Speaker 3: shoot 4,000 kilometers, but they admit that they did. Iran lies.
- 10:32Speaker 3: That's what they do. And they always have. But back
- 10:35Speaker 3: to Barack Obama. Let's remember that snapback, because that is
- 10:40Speaker 3: being taken away. The snapback would allow any sanctions that
- 10:44Speaker 3: were put on Iran to go right back on if
- 10:48Speaker 3: they don't do what they're supposed to do. And that's
- 10:52Speaker 3: one of the three things that America is offering to
- 10:55Speaker 3: be taken off the table with Iran. Another one is
- 11:00Speaker 3: they do away with sanctions with Iran. Sanctions have been
- 11:04Speaker 3: on Iran for a very long time. What, 15, 15, 18,
- 11:07Speaker 3: 20 years? Sanctions have been on Iran. We're about to
- 11:13Speaker 3: take that off in this negotiation. And if we are
- 11:18Speaker 3: negotiating with the same people that are the regime, there's
- 11:22Speaker 3: no evidence that there has been any type of regime
- 11:25Speaker 3: change yet, then we're only negotiating and giving the people
- 11:31Speaker 3: that have done the things that they've done to the
- 11:33Speaker 3: people of Iran and the people of the world, especially
- 11:36Speaker 3: there in the Middle East, we're giving them exactly what
- 11:39Speaker 3: they want. For what? For only ballistic missile sites and
- 11:47Speaker 3: bombing a nuclear site, which America did in June? And
- 11:52Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I'm supportive of what Donald Trump
- 11:55Speaker 3: has been doing. You can read my articles in the
- 11:58Speaker 3: archive if you'd like. I believe that this is the
- 12:01Speaker 3: right thing to do at this moment. I just don't
- 12:04Speaker 3: see the exit strategy that makes much sense right now.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Am I with Israel and Netanyahu and saying continue to bomb?
- 12:15Speaker 3: Not necessarily, but I don't know what America is winning here.
- 12:21Speaker 3: And regardless of what happens, this is going to end
- 12:24Speaker 3: pretty soon for America. Our part of it is going
- 12:27Speaker 3: to be over. And when it is, it's going to
- 12:30Speaker 3: be declared a victory because militarily, they can be seen
- 12:34Speaker 3: no other way than the victory that it will be.
- 12:37Speaker 3: When the Strait of Hormuz is open, the oil prices
- 12:41Speaker 3: are going to come down, and they'll come down quickly.
- 12:43Speaker 3: We do not have a production problem with oil. We
- 12:47Speaker 3: have a problem of getting the oil where it needs
- 12:49Speaker 3: to go. In the process of this, Donald Trump has
- 12:53Speaker 3: also lifted sanctions temporarily against Russian oil. That will help
- 12:58Speaker 3: them fight the war in Ukraine. The objective of this
- 13:04Speaker 3: is to bring peace to the Middle East. And I
- 13:07Speaker 3: don't know if this regime still being in charge is
- 13:11Speaker 3: going to do that. Because they have proven through the years,
- 13:15Speaker 3: one way or another, that they will always find a
- 13:18Speaker 3: way to put fear into people through terror. Because that's
- 13:23Speaker 3: how they rule. Whether it's ruling their people in Iran
- 13:27Speaker 3: that way, or if it's the Arab nations around them,
- 13:32Speaker 3: their neighbors, Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, That's what they do. And
- 13:41Speaker 3: if the regime is still in place, they're going to
- 13:43Speaker 3: continue to do it. In time, I think it's possible
- 13:47Speaker 3: that there could be a regime change. It's not going
- 13:49Speaker 3: to be done by Donald Trump. It's going to be
- 13:52Speaker 3: done by the people that live in Iran. It's the
- 13:55Speaker 3: only way that it can be. Here's a little more
- 13:58Speaker 3: of Donald Trump.
- 13:59Speaker 4: What it showed me is that we're dealing with the
- 14:01Speaker 4: right people. Because, you know, you don't know, because the
- 14:04Speaker 4: leadership was killed, all gone.
- 14:06Speaker 3: Khomeini, all gone.
- 14:09Speaker 4: As the expression goes, the past Supreme Leader. And then
- 14:12Speaker 4: the new Supreme Leader was racked up, at a minimum,
- 14:16Speaker 4: racked up pretty good. And everyone else was gone. And
- 14:21Speaker 4: then many of the people in the third tier.
- 14:23Speaker 3: And that's the question. Are we really negotiating with the
- 14:28Speaker 3: people in charge? And I know that the communication in
- 14:32Speaker 3: that country has been cut way down. So maybe the
- 14:35Speaker 3: ambassador in Pakistan for Iran... He wouldn't know. There's no
- 14:40Speaker 3: way he would know anyway. And what he says, you
- 14:42Speaker 3: take with a grain of salt. I get that. Well,
- 14:45Speaker 3: Donald Trump also is giving a present to Iran right now.
- 14:50Speaker 3: He announced that he was releasing 140 million barrels of
- 14:54Speaker 3: Iranian oil that is sitting out at sea to ease
- 14:58Speaker 3: the global prices of oil. And oil has come down
- 15:02Speaker 3: a little bit. It's below $ 100 a barrel. It had
- 15:04Speaker 3: spiked to $ 120. It's down. And like I said, it's
- 15:07Speaker 3: going to come down quickly. Once the Strait of Hormuz
- 15:10Speaker 3: is open, that's part of the negotiation. I think this
- 15:14Speaker 3: is going to be over pretty quickly. It will be
- 15:17Speaker 3: declared a victory by Donald Trump. But the victory is
- 15:20Speaker 3: not going to be known for years, for a very
- 15:24Speaker 3: long time. For the people inside Iran, it's going to
- 15:28Speaker 3: be decided in months. Are they going to have a
- 15:33Speaker 3: government for the people and by the people? Will the
- 15:36Speaker 3: Shah be brought back in to take over in Iran?
- 15:41Speaker 3: I just don't know. Who knows? Nobody really knows anything.
- 15:45Speaker 3: And I go back to what I always say when
- 15:48Speaker 3: a war is going on, whether it's Ukraine and Russia
- 15:50Speaker 3: or here with America, Israel, and Iran. I don't believe
- 15:54Speaker 3: anything any government says because it's war. There was an
- 16:00Speaker 3: interesting thing that happened on the oil market. Let's go
- 16:04Speaker 3: to this audio. Listen to this.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Here's the curious thing, and here's kind of where the
- 16:07Speaker 2: mystery is. I want to kind of zoom in on
- 16:10Speaker 2: this area here. So I'll kind of zoom in so
- 16:12Speaker 2: you can see. This is just the volumes of people
- 16:15Speaker 2: going into that oil market and kind of, for the
- 16:17Speaker 2: most part, selling after that Donald Trump post. You can
- 16:21Speaker 2: see there's this real spike in activity, a lot of
- 16:24Speaker 2: people going in there.
- 16:25Speaker 3: This was the post that we are going to negotiate,
- 16:28Speaker 3: that Donald Trump says we're going to negotiate. We're not
- 16:30Speaker 3: going to do anything for five days. If you remember,
- 16:33Speaker 3: we started this hour with, over the weekend, it was
- 16:36Speaker 3: 48 hours or I'm going to bomb your energy. And
- 16:40Speaker 3: then Donald Trump came out with a post. We are
- 16:42Speaker 3: negotiating with him. I'm giving him five days to come
- 16:46Speaker 3: to the table and get this thing resolved.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Fifteen minutes before that Donald Trump post... there was a
- 16:54Speaker 2: very big amount of trading volume, very big. In fact, actually,
- 16:59Speaker 2: when you're looking at that amount of volume, that spike,
- 17:03Speaker 2: that was the biggest trading volume that we saw that day.
- 17:06Speaker 2: We're starting here just at 8 o'clock in the morning.
- 17:08Speaker 2: We're going through to that moment of the Donald Trump post.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Relatively quiet volumes, not much going on in the market,
- 17:15Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden that. And if you're wondering, OK,
- 17:18Speaker 2: maybe this was just a one-off, it was someone who
- 17:20Speaker 2: made a lucky bet. Have a look not just at this.
- 17:23Speaker 2: So this is WTI, it's one measure, the US measure
- 17:25Speaker 2: of oil. Have a look at Brent, which is the
- 17:28Speaker 2: kind of the European, seen as the international measure of oil. Again,
- 17:31Speaker 2: the same thing. Donald Trump makes his post, flurry of activity,
- 17:34Speaker 2: lots of people there.
- 17:36Speaker 5: But look at that.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Again, 15 minutes before that Donald Trump post, a very
- 17:44Speaker 2: big trade. Now, it's unclear whether it's just an individual
- 17:48Speaker 2: or whether it's a kind of group of people, but
- 17:50Speaker 2: what you do know from just imputing what the potential value,
- 17:54Speaker 2: the notional value of those trades just on oil would be,
- 17:57Speaker 2: it is staggering amounts of money, life-changing amounts of money,
- 18:02Speaker 2: $ 580 million.
- 18:06Speaker 3: Someone made a trade or people made a trade 15
- 18:10Speaker 3: minutes before Donald Trump's posts that could make them $ 580 million.
- 18:18Speaker 3: Someone has some really good information somewhere, and they're getting rich.
- 18:24Speaker 3: Keep an eye on that. Wake up, America, can't you see?
- 18:30Speaker 6: What's going on here in the land of the free?
- 18:41Speaker 1: Many women and men have died for the freedom.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Wake up, America, can't you see? More Truth in Minutes
- 18:50Speaker 1: on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
- 18:54Speaker 3: Someone asked me the other day, how do you even
- 18:56Speaker 3: get a sense of what's going to happen next? It's hard.
- 19:00Speaker 3: I don't know that we can, the way the news
- 19:02Speaker 3: moves so fast. But you know what I told them?
- 19:05Speaker 3: I said, I've been checking out Poly Market a little bit.
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- 19:13Speaker 3: are betting on outcomes. Political elections, big policy moves, even
- 19:18Speaker 3: events you wouldn't expect. It's kind of like a live
- 19:22Speaker 3: pulse on what the public actually believes. And you can
- 19:26Speaker 3: see trends before they even happen and before they even
- 19:30Speaker 3: make the mainstream news. For me, it's not about gambling.
- 19:35Speaker 3: It's about understanding the probabilities and where the momentum is shifting.
- 19:39Speaker 3: If you like or love the news like I do,
- 19:42Speaker 3: maybe you're a news junkie, but you want to take
- 19:44Speaker 3: a little deeper look at what people really think, go
- 19:47Speaker 3: to Polymarket. It's a fascinating tool. Polymarket.com. Joining the program
- 20:00Speaker 3: now is someone that has been here before. Her name
- 20:02Speaker 3: is Jenna Ryan, and you may remember that name because...
- 20:06Speaker 3: She became the face of mainstream media's narrative when it
- 20:09Speaker 3: came to January 6th. Soon after January 6th, back in 2021,
- 20:14Speaker 3: her life was turned upside down. She went through everything,
- 20:18Speaker 3: and the last time she was on the program was
- 20:20Speaker 3: right before she got a pardon from Donald Trump. And Jenna,
- 20:24Speaker 3: it's great to have you back.
- 20:26Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.
- 20:27Speaker 3: Let's get into what you are up to now, because
- 20:29Speaker 3: you reached out to me and said, I've got a
- 20:32Speaker 3: couple of lawsuits going on. And this really has to
- 20:34Speaker 3: do with the debanking, sort of, when it comes to PayPal.
- 20:39Speaker 3: When you went through everything that you went through, PayPal
- 20:42Speaker 3: kind of debanked you. They kicked you off the platform,
- 20:45Speaker 3: didn't they?
- 20:46Speaker 5: They did.
- 20:47Speaker 6: PayPal came in. First, I was arrested by the FBI.
- 20:51Speaker 6: The FBI advertised it, called the media, then arrested me.
- 20:56Speaker 5: And it was all over the news.
- 20:58Speaker 6: And then a couple days later, I did a fundraiser.
- 21:03Speaker 6: And PayPal emailed me and said, you can't do business
- 21:06Speaker 6: with us ever again. And then an hour later, they contacted, well,
- 21:11Speaker 6: it was World News in one hour. So they contacted
- 21:14Speaker 6: CBS News, and they said, we're canceling Jenna Ryan because
- 21:18Speaker 6: she violated our fundraising policies. And by the next day,
- 21:23Speaker 6: I was kicked off every platform, kicked out of my office,
- 21:26Speaker 6: attacked everything. by the public and by whatever they had
- 21:31Speaker 6: going on with the bots. And I was just big
- 21:34Speaker 6: time attacked and lost everything the next day.
- 21:36Speaker 3: Well, Jenna, what did they say you did wrong? How
- 21:39Speaker 3: did they, what did they say that you violated so
- 21:42Speaker 3: that they could kick you off?
- 21:44Speaker 5: They gave no reason.
- 21:45Speaker 6: And they told the news that I violated fundraising policies,
- 21:49Speaker 6: which I didn't do.
- 21:50Speaker 5: And so what I did is, you know.
- 21:52Speaker 6: I knew I was going to sue them, but then
- 21:55Speaker 6: they ended up throwing me in prison for media interest.
- 21:58Speaker 6: And then I get out and I end up filing
- 22:01Speaker 6: a lawsuit and they've got me caught in arbitration for
- 22:03Speaker 6: a couple of years.
- 22:05Speaker 5: And then Trump won. I got a pardon.
- 22:07Speaker 6: And then Trump did the weaponization, ending the weaponization against
- 22:11Speaker 6: the federal government. And I was like, wait a minute.
- 22:14Speaker 6: And I just started representing myself in court, and I
- 22:19Speaker 6: just started filing motions, and they were ignoring me. And
- 22:21Speaker 6: then I started getting on the AI with the GROK
- 22:26Speaker 6: and with ChatGPT, but mostly GROK at this time, and
- 22:29Speaker 6: just started uncovering all of this incredible information.
- 22:33Speaker 5: That showed that PayPal.
- 22:36Speaker 6: Was acting as an arm of the government to punish
- 22:40Speaker 6: and censor conservatives and J6. Then I looked it up
- 22:45Speaker 6: and there was a congressional report done by Jim Jordan, notably,
- 22:51Speaker 6: and it showed how PayPal had Zoom calls with FinCEN,
- 22:55Speaker 6: which is the FBI and the anti-money laundering division of
- 23:01Speaker 6: our government. And they were, who knows what they were
- 23:05Speaker 6: talking about, but it was very suspicious. And so I
- 23:07Speaker 6: learned that PayPal was under congressional control. investigation for canceling
- 23:13Speaker 6: people after J6. And then I put two and two
- 23:16Speaker 6: together and I started researching and I came up with
- 23:19Speaker 6: 50 different exhibits showing how the government had forced PayPal
- 23:24Speaker 6: to cancel me and how it caused my life's destruction.
- 23:28Speaker 3: So did you, were you trying to raise money with GoFundMe?
- 23:32Speaker 3: Is that what you were doing? And it was attached
- 23:34Speaker 3: to PayPal and then PayPal started all this, or how
- 23:37Speaker 3: were you trying to raise money and use PayPal back then?
- 23:41Speaker 6: Well, they were making me famous. They were putting my
- 23:43Speaker 6: face everywhere. And so I was like, well, might as
- 23:46Speaker 6: well try to, you know, like Shelly Luther did, or,
- 23:49Speaker 6: you know, anybody would, I was just like, Hey, if
- 23:51Speaker 6: y'all want to donate to my legal fees and, um,
- 23:55Speaker 6: And so I just put up a little link. I've
- 23:57Speaker 6: been using PayPal since 2006, and I had no clue
- 24:01Speaker 6: that this big billion-dollar company even knew I existed. But
- 24:06Speaker 6: come to find out through my lawsuit and discovery through
- 24:09Speaker 6: my lawsuit, PayPal had a— there' s an AI, and they were
- 24:15Speaker 6: flagging conservatives, and they were flagging crowdfunding for Trump supporters.
- 24:21Speaker 6: And people that were buying Bibles. And so Fenton, our
- 24:24Speaker 6: federal government, was doing this. And then they were pushing
- 24:28Speaker 6: it through to the banks. And so, yeah, I just
- 24:31Speaker 6: put up a little fundraiser, a little button from PayPal.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Okay, so it was directly PayPal is what you were doing.
- 24:37Speaker 3: And then they flagged it. They took you down. And
- 24:40Speaker 3: then they said you can no longer work with us.
- 24:42Speaker 3: And then that brings you to this lawsuit. And where
- 24:45Speaker 3: is that now? You said that they were not paying
- 24:47Speaker 3: you any attention at all in the courts. but you
- 24:50Speaker 3: have done some more research using artificial intelligence in Grok,
- 24:54Speaker 3: and you found a lot of information. How are you
- 24:56Speaker 3: using that, and what are the courts doing with you?
- 25:00Speaker 6: So PayPal's premise is we're a private company. We can
- 25:04Speaker 6: do what we want. You need to go to arbitration.
- 25:06Speaker 6: This is a contract dispute, and that's not true. I
- 25:10Speaker 6: found out and proved to the court with evidence that
- 25:14Speaker 6: they were acting as an arm of the government.
- 25:17Speaker 5: So that's a huge deal.
- 25:18Speaker 6: PayPal cannot withstand that kind of allegations publicly if it
- 25:21Speaker 6: ever gets out to the news. But the news is
- 25:24Speaker 6: also implicated. So I'm on a litigation hold and nobody's
- 25:26Speaker 6: reporting about it. So what's going on in the court
- 25:29Speaker 6: is I ended up, you know, they're about to rule.
- 25:32Speaker 6: So I have filed a renewed. We've had some court battles.
- 25:36Speaker 6: They're trying to keep me in arbitration, but there's just
- 25:39Speaker 6: really no way they're going to be able to do
- 25:41Speaker 6: it any longer. So the judge is about to rule.
- 25:45Speaker 6: if I have to go to arbitration or if we
- 25:47Speaker 6: can stay in open court. And if we stay in
- 25:50Speaker 6: open court, PayPal will have to settle because they cannot
- 25:53Speaker 6: afford to be found to be a state actor. I'm
- 25:58Speaker 6: suing them under the 1983 provision, which is the KKK Act.
- 26:03Speaker 6: So it's an act that was created, a statute that
- 26:06Speaker 6: was created to prevent the KKK. And I'm suing them
- 26:10Speaker 6: on the 1983. So it's so horrible for them. They
- 26:13Speaker 6: can't have... They can't lose this. So they'll immediately settle,
- 26:17Speaker 6: I would assume. And there's no way they can stay
- 26:21Speaker 6: in arbitration because you can't just say arbitration for the
- 26:24Speaker 6: rest of your life if a person is standing up fighting.
- 26:27Speaker 6: And what they're used to is they're used to people
- 26:29Speaker 6: having to have attorneys and exhausting their money. But because
- 26:34Speaker 6: I had the AI to assist me, I'm able to
- 26:38Speaker 6: circumvent the old guard. And they're not used to it
- 26:42Speaker 6: and they're baffled and they don't have any protection anymore.
- 26:44Speaker 6: against somebody who's actually willing to fight. And, you know,
- 26:47Speaker 6: I have to, it's very difficult. I have to go into,
- 26:51Speaker 6: I have to, it's very, very.
- 26:53Speaker 5: Very, very hard.
- 26:55Speaker 6: It's not like anybody can do this. I mean, it's
- 26:57Speaker 6: my life though. They destroyed my name. They destroyed my reputation.
- 27:01Speaker 6: So I don't care what it takes. I want my
- 27:03Speaker 6: name back. I want my reputation back and I'll do
- 27:06Speaker 6: whatever it takes. Even if that's, you know, sometimes it's
- 27:09Speaker 6: 14 hour days of just strategizing with the AI and,
- 27:13Speaker 6: But right now we're at a place where none of that,
- 27:16Speaker 6: you know, I've done the work and now I'm winning.
- 27:18Speaker 5: And ultimately you're going to see.
- 27:20Speaker 6: And then President Trump, two weeks ago, comes up with
- 27:23Speaker 6: the executive order, fair banking for every American. And basically
- 27:30Speaker 6: I put it into the AI and I was like,
- 27:32Speaker 6: what is this? And they're like, that's your lawsuit. I'm like, what?
- 27:36Speaker 6: So the president of the United States had the same problem.
- 27:40Speaker 6: They debanked President Trump. So, you know, I've got the
- 27:44Speaker 6: backing of the executive order and just the whole. And
- 27:48Speaker 6: then and then the Fox News started talking about debanking
- 27:51Speaker 6: and saying that the Biden administration had actually forced the banks,
- 27:57Speaker 6: the financial institutions to cancel conservatives. So that's a lot
- 28:01Speaker 6: of evidence on my behalf that, you know, PayPal is
- 28:05Speaker 6: just not going to be able to stand against.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Do you think PayPal is going to pay you just
- 28:10Speaker 3: to have this go away, or does that open themselves
- 28:13Speaker 3: up for more people like you that got kicked off
- 28:16Speaker 3: the platform to do the same thing that you've done?
- 28:21Speaker 6: You know, it does open them up, and I really
- 28:23Speaker 6: don't know what they're doing. I think it's a combination
- 28:26Speaker 6: of hubris and because they can't believe that I'm able
- 28:29Speaker 6: to do what I'm doing.
- 28:31Speaker 5: And just clear, they were not used to this.
- 28:33Speaker 6: They're not used to a person standing up and being
- 28:36Speaker 6: able to fight in court, toe-to-toe with their top attorneys.
- 28:41Speaker 6: So who knows what they're doing, but they're going to
- 28:43Speaker 6: have to answer to me. And you asked whether they
- 28:46Speaker 6: would be able to, if other people would be able
- 28:48Speaker 6: to file class action. And they will. The difference between
- 28:53Speaker 6: my case and the hundreds and thousands, maybe millions, who knows,
- 28:57Speaker 6: of people that had been debanked is my damages were
- 29:01Speaker 6: so direct.
- 29:03Speaker 5: Like I directly, the next.
- 29:05Speaker 6: Day after they called the media and publicized the fact
- 29:08Speaker 6: that they canceled me, the very next day I was
- 29:12Speaker 6: kicked off of my entire network that I'd been on
- 29:15Speaker 6: for my entire life.
- 29:16Speaker 3: Do you have proof that they made the phone calls
- 29:20Speaker 3: to CBS and ABC and NBC?
- 29:24Speaker 5: I do.
- 29:24Speaker 6: Well, it says on the CBS, oh, by the way,
- 29:27Speaker 6: on the CBS article where they leaked it to the media,
- 29:30Speaker 6: it says reputation manager Kim Eichhorn from PayPal gave us
- 29:36Speaker 6: a statement about Jenna Ryan saying she violated standards. policies
- 29:41Speaker 6: and that's why they're canceling her. And all the headlines,
- 29:44Speaker 6: there was like 28 mainstream headlines that said PayPal boots
- 29:49Speaker 6: Jenna Ryan. And so there's even one that says Jenna
- 29:53Speaker 6: Ryan is arrested by the FBI and PayPal boots her.
- 29:57Speaker 6: And so it's like it's a conspiracy. I'm claiming it's
- 30:00Speaker 6: a conspiracy. And I don't have to prove that at
- 30:02Speaker 6: this juncture. You know, we're just at the motion stage.
- 30:06Speaker 6: So I don't have to prove it yet. But it's plausible.
- 30:10Speaker 6: It fits the plausibility standard. So as long as I
- 30:14Speaker 6: can stay in court and face them in court, they're
- 30:17Speaker 6: not going to be able to stand because they're Two,
- 30:21Speaker 6: I'd be able to get discovery and get those phone
- 30:23Speaker 6: calls that they made with the government, and it would
- 30:25Speaker 6: just be very devastating for them.
- 30:27Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want to go there. So let's get
- 30:29Speaker 3: to your lawsuit against the federal government. What are you
- 30:32Speaker 3: doing with that one?
- 30:34Speaker 5: Okay, great question.
- 30:35Speaker 6: That one I just kind of filed just because I
- 30:38Speaker 6: wanted to get the truth out. I never dreamed in
- 30:40Speaker 6: a million years that it would actually get to where
- 30:43Speaker 6: it is today.
- 30:44Speaker 5: So I.
- 30:46Speaker 6: Filed it just to get on the record the truth
- 30:49Speaker 6: because there's so many lies.
- 30:51Speaker 5: And so that one.
- 30:53Speaker 6: Has progressed, and the DOJ has lawyered up and brought
- 30:58Speaker 6: in veteran 30-year attorneys in the Civil Rights and Ethics Division,
- 31:05Speaker 6: which is bizarre, by the way. And they have lawyered up,
- 31:10Speaker 6: which tells you a lot. So I'm suing the prosecutor
- 31:14Speaker 6: who prosecuted me, and she lied, and she fabricated evidence
- 31:18Speaker 6: and did any manner of things to me. I mean,
- 31:21Speaker 6: you're about to find out because the Trump administration, they're
- 31:23Speaker 6: about to disclose everything because they're going to have to.
- 31:27Speaker 6: And so all the J6 stuff is about to come
- 31:30Speaker 6: out here in a minute. But they are fighting me.
- 31:33Speaker 6: The DOJ, the Department of Justice, the Trump Department of
- 31:36Speaker 6: Justice is fighting me because my case, you know, threatens
- 31:41Speaker 6: absolute immunity, sovereign immunity, qualified immunity, discretionary immunity. It's because
- 31:48Speaker 6: I've got that AI that's helping me.
- 31:51Speaker 5: And I'm also very tenacious and I don't sleep.
- 31:54Speaker 6: And I just go because I'm so upset about them lying. So,
- 31:59Speaker 6: It's very complicated about where we're at, but I'm giving
- 32:02Speaker 6: it everything.
- 32:03Speaker 3: You're seeking the justice you feel like you deserve and
- 32:06Speaker 3: everybody else does. You said something there just a minute
- 32:09Speaker 3: ago that the Trump administration is going to come out
- 32:12Speaker 3: with everything about J6 in a minute. What did you mean?
- 32:15Speaker 3: Do you have information that we don't have? Do you
- 32:19Speaker 3: think that they're coming out with something or know that
- 32:21Speaker 3: they are coming out with something?
- 32:23Speaker 6: I know for a fact they have to because... Lawsuits
- 32:26Speaker 6: like mine, they're on the record.
- 32:28Speaker 5: They're stronger.
- 32:29Speaker 6: My lawsuit is stronger than the media even because I'm
- 32:33Speaker 6: on the record proving with evidence, with exhibits, with their
- 32:37Speaker 6: name on it, you know, showing what they did.
- 32:40Speaker 5: They fabricated evidence.
- 32:42Speaker 6: They did, you know, the sedition hunters, the PayPal thing.
- 32:46Speaker 6: It was all one big clump. Of the Biden administration.
- 32:51Speaker 6: So it's interesting the way the Trump administration, they have
- 32:55Speaker 6: to defend the United States against it. It's like they're caught.
- 33:00Speaker 6: They're in a catch 22. It's like they get it.
- 33:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:03Speaker 5: But they have to, you know, so you're asking. So basically,
- 33:07Speaker 5: my lawsuit is.
- 33:10Speaker 6: Really like out in front of everybody, every Jay Sixer,
- 33:14Speaker 6: because I'm the only person that's just, I'm a clean case,
- 33:17Speaker 6: you could call it, because I only walked in for
- 33:19Speaker 6: two minutes and eight seconds. And then I just found
- 33:23Speaker 6: the video showing the police officer I supposedly trespassed on
- 33:27Speaker 6: the door I walked in that they were making such
- 33:29Speaker 6: a big deal about. He's waving people in. And that
- 33:33Speaker 6: was hidden evidence. And so that's a Brady violation, very serious.
- 33:38Speaker 6: And I'm not an attorney and I'm just finding this stuff.
- 33:41Speaker 6: It's really child's play what they're doing, but you know,
- 33:44Speaker 6: they have to, they have to fight it. They have
- 33:46Speaker 6: to fight for America, but at the same time they
- 33:49Speaker 6: have to make it right with the January Sixers. And
- 33:52Speaker 6: I do know that the January Sixers are, you know,
- 33:55Speaker 6: numbers are being floated as far as what each person
- 33:58Speaker 6: will end up getting due to the lies and the
- 34:01Speaker 6: horrible abuse we suffered.
- 34:03Speaker 5: And they're floating numbers. They're floating settlement amounts.
- 34:07Speaker 6: And they're also, they have to get the truth out
- 34:10Speaker 6: because all of us were extremely lied about.
- 34:13Speaker 3: It's all made up. Jenna, that has been one of
- 34:17Speaker 3: my frustrations with this 119th Congress so far. And I
- 34:21Speaker 3: know they had their hands full. You had the reconciliation,
- 34:25Speaker 3: the big beautiful bill. You've had confirmations. You've had everything
- 34:29Speaker 3: that Donald Trump has tried to accomplish here in the
- 34:30Speaker 3: first seven or eight months of his presidency. But there
- 34:34Speaker 3: has not been any type of commission to get to
- 34:36Speaker 3: the bottom of the January 6th and what it was
- 34:40Speaker 3: all about. And that's been really disappointing for me because,
- 34:43Speaker 3: you know, we saw everything that Nancy Pelosi and the
- 34:45Speaker 3: Democrats did, along with a couple of Republicans in name only.
- 34:50Speaker 3: That would be Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger that were
- 34:53Speaker 3: the only Republicans that were allowed on Congress. that J6 commission,
- 34:57Speaker 3: because Nancy Pelosi said, no, we're not going to let
- 35:00Speaker 3: Jim Jordan, you mentioned him a few minutes ago, she
- 35:02Speaker 3: would not allow him to be on that commission. In
- 35:05Speaker 3: this 119th Republican Congress in the Senate and the House,
- 35:08Speaker 3: they haven't done anything yet to bring the truth about
- 35:12Speaker 3: what happened on January 6th, because I know American people
- 35:16Speaker 3: want to know that. So Good luck on both of
- 35:19Speaker 3: those lawsuits. We'll keep watching, and we'll have you back
- 35:23Speaker 3: when there is some more news about it. I want
- 35:25Speaker 3: to get in, first of all, let's talk about your book,
- 35:27Speaker 3: because the last time you were here, you said you
- 35:30Speaker 3: were not quite finished, but it is now out, and
- 35:32Speaker 3: it is available on Amazon. Tell us the name of
- 35:35Speaker 3: the book, and then just tell us a little bit
- 35:36Speaker 3: about it.
- 35:39Speaker 6: My book was just something that we wanted to put
- 35:42Speaker 6: together to– record what happened. It's called storming the Capitol,
- 35:47Speaker 6: storming the Capitol, unjustly accused, unwavering in truth. And it's
- 35:52Speaker 6: basically just a play by play of the things that
- 35:54Speaker 6: I went through. And it is on Amazon and I
- 35:57Speaker 6: am speaking throughout, you know, the country throughout Florida, mostly
- 36:01Speaker 6: I'm going to speaking events. So if anybody wants me
- 36:03Speaker 6: to come speak at your event, I can. And then, yeah,
- 36:07Speaker 6: it's a great book.
- 36:08Speaker 3: Okay. Well, everybody go find that book. We'll put it
- 36:11Speaker 3: in the bookstore here at americaoutloud.news so you can find
- 36:14Speaker 3: it there as well. If you're listening later on a podcast,
- 36:17Speaker 3: it should be up by the time that you're listening
- 36:20Speaker 3: to this on a podcast. Jenna, let's get into the docuseries.
- 36:23Speaker 3: You mentioned to me the other night that there is
- 36:26Speaker 3: a docuseries that is doing the story on your life.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Who's doing that? Where will it be available? When will
- 36:32Speaker 3: it be available?
- 36:34Speaker 5: Well, I have some very.
- 36:35Speaker 6: reputable, credible, real director, producer, team, and, and global distribution team,
- 36:43Speaker 6: as well as investors in place, and we are developing,
- 36:47Speaker 6: I'm producing, well, I'm a co-producer in this docu-series, and
- 36:52Speaker 6: it's going to be just my story, and, um, the
- 36:56Speaker 6: director is incredible, and he's a strong Christian, and, you know,
- 37:00Speaker 6: we have good roots in faith, and, um, He's wanting
- 37:05Speaker 6: to do my life story. He's going to show who
- 37:07Speaker 6: I was before all this happened, what happened to me,
- 37:11Speaker 6: how I was smeared, and then how the triumph part,
- 37:15Speaker 6: the third part, which is rising up to battle the
- 37:20Speaker 6: biggest giants in the world, billion-dollar financial institution and the
- 37:25Speaker 6: Department of Justice, by myself with a keyboard.
- 37:30Speaker 5: And so it's a pretty good story.
- 37:32Speaker 6: It's like, you know, Aaron Brookfish and a lot of
- 37:35Speaker 6: different things, a crew crime.
- 37:36Speaker 5: You name it, it's everything rolled into one.
- 37:38Speaker 6: So we've got, you know, all sorts of people getting involved.
- 37:43Speaker 6: And so it's definitely happening. And it's a little bit
- 37:45Speaker 6: bigger than me because I've got a team.
- 37:48Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:48Speaker 3: Well, good. You deserve a team. You've been out there
- 37:51Speaker 3: on your own now for what? Five years, almost fighting
- 37:56Speaker 3: all of this. It's hard to believe it's been five years.
- 37:59Speaker 3: It will be five years in January. It's really, really
- 38:01Speaker 3: hard to believe that it's been that long, and we
- 38:03Speaker 3: still don't really have all the answers. But you're fighting
- 38:06Speaker 3: for them. You know, when something like this happens to
- 38:09Speaker 3: our lives, you have a couple of different ways you
- 38:12Speaker 3: can go. You can kind of quit and roll over
- 38:14Speaker 3: and lay down and give up. Or you can fight,
- 38:18Speaker 3: and you have fought. And that's one of the reasons
- 38:20Speaker 3: why I like you so much and so glad that
- 38:22Speaker 3: you come on the program. You have moved to Florida.
- 38:25Speaker 3: You're a neighbor of mine now, so we'll have to
- 38:27Speaker 3: get together. Maybe I can get your book, and you'll
- 38:30Speaker 3: sign it for me. And I don't know if you
- 38:31Speaker 3: know this, but I have a book that came out
- 38:33Speaker 3: July 27th on artificial intelligence, actually.
- 38:37Speaker 5: I saw that. That looks really good.
- 38:39Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll swap books. What about that?
- 38:42Speaker 5: That sounds wonderful. I look forward to it.
- 38:44Speaker 3: Well, Jenna, good luck on your lawsuits, and we'll look
- 38:47Speaker 3: for the docuseries come out. And, you know, when there's
- 38:50Speaker 3: news about this, let me know, and we'll get you
- 38:52Speaker 3: back on the program so everybody hears how these court
- 38:55Speaker 3: cases are going.
- 38:56Speaker 5: Perfect. I'm glad to. Thank you so much for allowing
- 38:59Speaker 5: me to speak and share. I appreciate it.
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