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The Late Debate | 19 September · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Late Welcome to the late Base.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand. Coming
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Speaker 3: up a Victorian golfer donz a wig and address in
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Speaker 3: order to claim discounted fees for women.
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Speaker 2: Will show you how that goes a little later. Plus,
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Speaker 2: when we.
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Speaker 3: Look at the papers, a new report showing carbon offset
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Speaker 3: credits rarely do much good at all and Gold Coast
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Speaker 3: unit owners are upset because they're going to be taxed
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Speaker 3: according to their view. All of that when we look
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Speaker 3: at the papers. But first, the behavior of New South
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Speaker 3: Wales politicians is evidently so bad they'll be forced to
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Speaker 3: undergo anti bullying and anti harassment training.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: The mandated training comes after a report found that a
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Speaker 3: quarter of parliamentary staff had expressed had experienced bullying and
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Speaker 3: harassment at work. The government's already spent a million dollars
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Speaker 3: on consultants and training to try to change workplace behavior,
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Speaker 3: and this new training course is part of fifteen million
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Speaker 3: dollars they're investing over the next four years to try
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Speaker 3: to get New South Wales parliamentarians and their staff to
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Speaker 3: behave better that they'd spend that much money on an
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Speaker 3: economics course or something like that.
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Speaker 2: But Joe and Liz, this raises questions for me.
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Speaker 3: Firstly, are parliamentarians behaving that badly that we need to
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Speaker 3: spend fifteen million dollars.
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Speaker 2: To improve their conduct?
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Speaker 3: And if it is that bad, then is a training
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Speaker 3: course really going to change things? But I've got one
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Speaker 3: more question about this story. A lot of anti bullying
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Speaker 3: is often just another form of bullying in disguise. And
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Speaker 3: I do note that MPs can't actually be forced to
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Speaker 3: do this training because what are they going to do?
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Speaker 2: Tell them they're out.
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Speaker 3: They've been elected by voters. But the New South Wales
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Speaker 3: Parliament have said they will monitor attendance and they will
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Speaker 3: note non compliance, which Liz sounds to me kind of
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Speaker 3: like bullying.
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Speaker 1: Well, last question is who the heck are these people.
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Speaker 1: We've elected them to make very important decisions on behalf
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Speaker 1: of us, on behalf of the entire state of New
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Speaker 1: South Wales and they can't even get it together at work,
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Speaker 1: if the Broaderick Report is to be believed. And that's
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Speaker 1: why they're taking these measures, because back in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 5: Two, the Broaderick Report was very damning.
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Speaker 1: Like you say, over record on the people who were
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Speaker 1: anonymously asked for feedback said, yes, I've experienced bullying and
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Speaker 1: harassment and sexism is far more commonplace here than we'd
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Speaker 1: like it to be. So firstly, this seems to be
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Speaker 1: quite a late reaction. I mean, last year they introduced
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Speaker 1: the Respected Work program, only twenty three out of the
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Speaker 1: ninety three MPs have attended their Respect at Work indoctrination.
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Speaker 1: And now we're being told that this course is mandatory,
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Speaker 1: but they have no way of forcing anyone to attend it.
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Speaker 1: So this just seems like a tick the box. We
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Speaker 1: must be seen to address this problem. And of course
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Speaker 1: we all know that you know, an hour an hour
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Speaker 1: and a half course it can and will change someone's character.
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Speaker 1: If they didn't know that this behavior was inappropriate previously,
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Speaker 1: they will once they sat through this course. That's been
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Speaker 1: the only problem. They just didn't know it was wrong.
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Speaker 1: The course will tell.
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Speaker 5: Them it's wrong, and then I'm sure they'll cut it out.
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Speaker 1: And that is how many million dollars fifteen million dollars
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Speaker 1: over the next four years of our taxpayer dollar well spent,
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Speaker 1: like we don't pay them enough to be abject failures.
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Speaker 1: Now we've got to pay out another fifteen million more
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Speaker 1: just to be like, can you behave yourself?
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Speaker 4: Then they respectful failures.
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Speaker 3: If the course is that, If the course is that good,
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Speaker 3: they should run it in Gaza.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: The thing is, if you don't actually know that bullying
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Speaker 6: is bad, or you don't know that sexual harassment is bad,
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Speaker 6: it is very unlike that of course is going to
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Speaker 6: do anything. They should just say look if you get
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Speaker 6: if you get busted sexually harassing someone, we're leaking it
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Speaker 6: to the Daily Telegraph. Every MP would say right, never
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Speaker 6: touching anyone ever again, or the.
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Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph would be very busy.
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Speaker 4: But there's a couple of things we are on the
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Speaker 4: lookout for. It an'ty worry.
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Speaker 6: I once, in a much much older incarnation of the
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Speaker 6: New South VAL's government, I once figured out that you
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Speaker 6: were twice as likely to be a sex abuser if
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Speaker 6: you're in the New South Wales government cabinet that you
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Speaker 6: were in the general community. But that was a particular
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Speaker 6: low point for a former government.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 4: But there's two things.
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Speaker 6: I mean, one is it depends when you're looking at
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Speaker 6: the prevalence of something like this, it depends on two things.
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Speaker 6: One is the number of people who are actually doing
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Speaker 6: it and how often they're doing it. The other is,
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Speaker 6: of course how sensitive the respondents toy survey are. So
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Speaker 6: if you define something broadly enough, and there was a
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Speaker 6: previous survey that was done and a very you know,
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Speaker 6: you know, earnest and well intentioned survey, and I know
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Speaker 6: the person who did it. But like sexual harassment university
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Speaker 6: and on campus, right, And it turns out that this
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Speaker 6: also included commuting on the way to campus, and that
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Speaker 6: examples of unwelcome behavior which was counter as sexual harassment
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Speaker 6: was looking for someone looking at someone too long, staring
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Speaker 6: at something too long on a train, so you could
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Speaker 6: be on your train on the way to UNI, so
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Speaker 6: a complete stranger who's not going to UNI stares at
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Speaker 6: you and you don't like it, and then that gets
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Speaker 6: counted as an incident of sexual harassment on campus or whatever.
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Speaker 4: So there's that. So this brings us to the ABC.
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Speaker 6: The ABC, if we are to be told, I think
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Speaker 6: Paul raised it in the show before Ours, is a
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Speaker 6: hotbed of racism and sexual harassment. Now I wait to
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Speaker 6: believe that the ABC, of all organizations, is a place
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Speaker 6: where racism and sexual harassment runs rampant or as an
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Speaker 6: organization whose employees would be highly highly attuned to the
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Speaker 6: slightest suggestion of sexual harassment racism, so that becomes overrepresented.
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Speaker 6: The other thing with this thing, as I think you
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Speaker 6: alluded to before, it means if you have a framework
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Speaker 6: like this, it means it can very very quickly be
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Speaker 6: weaponized to get rid of your political enemies. And guess
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Speaker 6: which building has more political enemies all under the same
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Speaker 6: roof than anywhere else in the entire state. That's right,
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Speaker 6: it's Parliament House. And so again, you know someone I
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Speaker 6: know very well, waltz Accord, a very senior figure in
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Speaker 6: the Labor Party who was basically instrumental in getting Chris
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Speaker 6: Mins elected to the leadership of the Parliamentary Party and
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Speaker 6: winning the last election. I'm very little doubt in my
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Speaker 6: mind that had that not happened, we would still be
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Speaker 6: a Liberal state government in Macquarie Street. And he had
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Speaker 6: an allegation of bullying leveled against him and was basically
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Speaker 6: forced to fall on his sword or chose to so
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Speaker 6: it didn't means chances I'm very noble, and that basically
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Speaker 6: amounted to him I think shouting at a former leader's
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Speaker 6: staff member and of course, the former leader being the
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Speaker 6: one who he'd replaced with Chris min So maybe it
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Speaker 6: was absolutely horrific, or maybe it was just a bit
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Speaker 6: of payback.
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Speaker 3: Well to a couple of your points, some of those
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Speaker 3: who reported they'd experienced harassment and bullying, they also reported
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Speaker 3: they experienced and I don't know what this means live
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Speaker 3: everyday sexism as opposed to every other day sexism.
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Speaker 5: Not really sure.
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Speaker 3: And of the twenty three that did the respect for
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Speaker 3: Work course that you alluded to earlier, how many of
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Speaker 3: you reckon? How many of those do you think were
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Speaker 3: people that weren't showing respect? Or did they do the
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Speaker 3: course on respect because they are respectful people.
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Speaker 2: I should actually do this course.
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Speaker 5: A night certificate. I framed it the people's.
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Speaker 2: Cleeding for the people that don't do it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Indeed to the UK now where a group called Free
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Speaker 1: Speech Brighton, which is a free speech group in Brighton,
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Speaker 1: as their name suggests, have been thrown our of a pub.
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Speaker 5: Here's the scene.
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Speaker 1: They have hired a back room in this pub in
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Speaker 1: order to hold one of their meetings. They bring along
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Speaker 1: a little microphone and a little speaker.
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Speaker 5: They're mining their own business. They're in the back room.
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Speaker 1: Three speeches are planned and the first lady gets up
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Speaker 1: speaks for fifteen minutes. She's a retired teacher in her fifties,
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Speaker 1: and she's talking about the fact that I don't think
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Speaker 1: gender ideology, this idea that you can be one thing
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Speaker 1: one day and another thing the other day.
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Speaker 5: Should be taught to school children. She also asserted the
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Speaker 5: argument that parents should.
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Speaker 1: Be able to ask what their children are being taught
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Speaker 1: in sex education and asked to be availed of the
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Speaker 1: materials that are.
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Speaker 5: Being given to their children.
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Speaker 1: Well, then it was question and answer time when suddenly
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Speaker 1: five security guards entered the room and this pandemonium ensued.
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Speaker 4: Bring doesn't wants to complain from the management.
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Speaker 5: Anyone refusing is now trespassing. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Keep in mind these are perfectly legal beliefs. In fact,
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Speaker 1: the former UK government during their tenure published a paper
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Speaker 1: saying that schools shouldn't be teaching any kind of controversial
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Speaker 1: gender theory to school children. So did this manager of
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Speaker 1: the pub have a leg to stand on legally?
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Speaker 5: We're told, and indeed.
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Speaker 1: This free speech group has been told bi legal experts.
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Speaker 1: I believe they will be pursuing what's What's happened in
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Speaker 1: the courts that these guys don't have a leg to
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Speaker 1: stand on, that this is exactly the same as ejecting
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Speaker 1: someone from your parb or restaurant or whatever else you
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Speaker 1: own because you don't like the color of someone's skin.
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Speaker 1: These guys were literally ousted out of the pub by
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Speaker 1: the way they refuse to leave until they'd finished their bevies.
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Speaker 5: How English can you get?
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Speaker 1: And they told the security guards to tell management that
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Speaker 1: the next two speakers were on entirely unrelated topics. Note
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Speaker 1: still thrown out onto the street for the crime of wanting.
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Speaker 5: To protect young people from what everyone.
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Speaker 1: Who knows the stats on this believes to be very
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Speaker 1: much a social contagion, given the numbers, the burgeoning numbers
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Speaker 1: of LGBTIQ people, especially in the younger age groups in
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Speaker 1: the UK.
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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering when they booked the room, do you
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Speaker 3: think they booked it under the name free speech Brighton,
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Speaker 3: and so that the pub owner those this is a
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Speaker 3: group committed to free speech, I'm about to evict them.
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Speaker 3: I actually am sympathetic to the rights of people to
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Speaker 3: have the customers that they choose, but if you're going
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Speaker 3: to have discrimination laws they've got to apply equally. Could
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Speaker 3: you imagine the outrage if a group were in the
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Speaker 3: back room talking about the need for gay rights and
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Speaker 3: they were evicted by a Christian publican.
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Speaker 6: Imagine a pub that said no gay people allowed. Yeah, indeed, sorry,
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Speaker 6: it's a private premises. We have the right to evict
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Speaker 6: you by because we don't like what you are, what
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Speaker 6: you think, or what you say.
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Speaker 3: So these people are not only expressing perfectly legitimate views,
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Speaker 3: but as you said, Liz, these were views that only
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Speaker 3: a short time ago were being espoused by the UK.
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Speaker 4: Gunn.
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Speaker 6: I think it's irrelevant whether the views are legitimate or
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Speaker 6: backed up by evidence or whatever. The question is, okay,
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Speaker 6: are they are they legally able to be held, not
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Speaker 6: where they're right or not, but are they illegal?
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Speaker 4: So you know, you can't book a back room and
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Speaker 4: say all right, everybody kill all the Jews, right, that
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Speaker 4: doesn't work.
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Speaker 6: But you know, if you're actually say well, I'm not
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Speaker 6: sure this isn't right for schools, think they could be
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Speaker 6: on pretty flimsy, flimsy ground. I think it would be difficult,
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Speaker 6: certainly very difficult to do that in Australia. I would
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Speaker 6: have thought if our being disruptive or rowdy, you know,
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Speaker 6: before they had their beloved microphone stand taken away by
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Speaker 6: the boutside.
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Speaker 4: They didn't look like they had, but it didn't seem
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Speaker 4: so that.
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Speaker 6: I mean, they looked like that, you know, they'd struggled
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Speaker 6: to be rowdy with all the rheumatoid arth rights going around.
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Speaker 6: So I thought, I thought this was really a lesson
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Speaker 6: in what not to do in terms of good solid
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Speaker 6: brad management. And the fact even the fact that the whole,
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Speaker 6: the whole sort of fig leaf of respectability. Oh there's
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Speaker 6: been a complaint we have too from or the manager.
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Speaker 4: So the manager complained to himself.
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Speaker 6: I did the manager, like Lodger, go to their website
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Speaker 6: and you know, I mean.
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Speaker 4: He had to be here the already.
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Speaker 6: Clearly the management sort of thought I'd better dress this
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Speaker 6: up as something it's not, and the security guards, unfortunately,
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Speaker 6: were The.
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Speaker 3: Other thing I like about this story is committed free
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Speaker 3: speech and all right, we won't finish our speeches, but
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Speaker 3: we will finish our beers.
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Speaker 4: Committed to free beer, go above and beyond.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 6: So the other thing that happened in the UK is
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Speaker 6: that Trafalgar Square has quote unquote gone and woke as
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Speaker 6: a fourth plinth was taken over by artwork aiming to
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Speaker 6: quote unite the trans community around the world. I have
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Speaker 6: to tell you, I do not understand anything about this story.
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Speaker 6: I do not understand why there is a plinth that
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Speaker 6: is going to unite the trans community and how that
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Speaker 6: is actually going to work. How is it going to
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Speaker 6: unite the transmitnion around the world. But it's just sitting
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Speaker 6: there like a box in Trafalgar Square.
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Speaker 5: An ugly boss.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is objectively.
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Speaker 6: Serious building in the Rocks in Sydney. It looks like
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Speaker 6: some kind of weird you know, they're militarian stalinists.
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Speaker 3: That there's hundreds of masks taken from transgendered people, half
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Speaker 3: of them from London and the other half from Mexico.
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Speaker 4: I do not understand. But why I just London in Mexico.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Either, except that it's all in preparation for what do
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Speaker 3: they call it, It's Transgender Day of Remembrance, which is
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Speaker 3: coming up where people remember those who have been killed
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Speaker 3: because of being transgendered. That The trouble, however, is that,
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Speaker 3: according to Statistica, which is a online platform that collates
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Speaker 3: data from around the world in all manner, of subjects.
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Speaker 3: There was one person transgendered who was murdered in the
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Speaker 3: UK in twenty twenty three. There were fifty two transgendered
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Speaker 3: people murdered in Mexico in twenty twenty three. So I
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Speaker 3: think part of it is, you go, if you're going
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Speaker 3: to have a transgender day of remembrance, but only one
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Speaker 3: person is to be remembered, I need to combine it
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Speaker 3: with something else to make it a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a bigger issue.
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Speaker 6: I think, Like again, it just seemed very strange where
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Speaker 6: people and it's a bit like again, it's kind of
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Speaker 6: like a sort of Quiers of Palestine, you know, it's
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Speaker 6: kind of like protesting against the inj in Mexico in
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Speaker 6: the place that is the least unjust compared to the
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Speaker 6: place where it's actually happened the most.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: I know, it might be more dangerous to protest, but again.
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Speaker 6: Why why are you sort of telling Londoners about this
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Speaker 6: terrible thing?
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Speaker 2: Correct?
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Speaker 6: In fact, surely the true target should be Armlow, the
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Speaker 6: president of Mexico.
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Speaker 3: Well, total numbers of transgender people killed in twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 3: according to Forbes magazine, was three hundred and twenty. At
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Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty worldwide. One was murdered in the UK,
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Speaker 3: which would make the UK one of the safest places
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Speaker 3: on earth for transgendered people. The artwork was put together
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Speaker 3: by a transgendered Mexican artist to celebrate a transgender sex
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Speaker 3: worker who was or not celebrate to memorialize a transgender
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Speaker 3: sex worker who was murdered in Mexico almost ten years ago.
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Speaker 3: So that's the display and it's designed to disintegrate. Interestingly enough,
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Speaker 3: the masks are specifically designed so over the month or
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Speaker 3: so that they're on display, it's going.
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Speaker 5: To be bits flying around trafalgus.
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Speaker 3: And that kind of makes the point of, you know,
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Speaker 3: transgendered rights being trampled on and being destroyed.
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Speaker 6: So that was going to say this was a prefat story,
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Speaker 6: So there's actually.
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Speaker 2: What are those marks?
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Speaker 5: Because if there's a mod.
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Speaker 1: And they're going to be defuriating and people are going
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Speaker 1: to be breathing it in in Trafalgar Square, you really
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Speaker 1: know my soap box. The former Plint was tipping the
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Speaker 1: hat to the history of colonialism in Africa. So I'm
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Speaker 1: getting the vibe from whoever gets to decide which next
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Speaker 1: Plint is going to be unveiled in Trafalgar Square. It's
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Speaker 1: always going to be virtue signaling and also just reminding
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Speaker 1: the public, not not just people in London, because people
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Speaker 1: come from all around the world world to check out
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Speaker 1: Trafalgar Square, but reminding them all of we are well
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Speaker 1: aware of our colonialist pass and we are well aware
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Speaker 1: of the LGBTQ, and we are well aware who knows
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Speaker 1: what next years will be the.
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Speaker 3: Only reason they're able to do this is because when
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Speaker 3: these prints were first put in Trafalgar Square, three of
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Speaker 3: them have statues attached to the pedestals, but the.
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Speaker 2: Fourth one actually ran out of money.
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Speaker 3: It was meant to be a horse celebrating William the
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Speaker 3: Fourth but they ran out of money, and so for
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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty years it just sat vacant. And
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Speaker 3: then they decided, let's have a rolling sort of display.
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Speaker 2: People.
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Speaker 6: It's like an answer to our response to all the
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Speaker 6: big giants sort of colonialists or imperialists sort of. So
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Speaker 6: I don't mind that at all. I don't even really
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Speaker 6: mind this thing. It just it just seems weird. Well,
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Speaker 6: so often the outrage is misdirected.
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Speaker 1: Oh incredibly, and so many of the MPs had argued
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Speaker 1: that this plint should be dedicated to Queen Elizabeth because
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Speaker 1: that it was a really prominent space, obviously a very
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Speaker 1: beloved monarch in England. But nope, the transmasks that are
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Speaker 1: going to deteriorate.
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Speaker 6: Dedicated to Harry and Meghan for all their services to spotify.
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Speaker 2: You know what they should have in retrospect.
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Speaker 4: Leave it like it is.
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Speaker 3: I really like the transgender But talking about people being
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Speaker 3: outraged over silly things, people in Mossman are outraged over
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Speaker 3: plans to build a multi story mansion on a vacant
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Speaker 3: block of harbourside land. Now the issue with this block
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Speaker 3: of land is there's no access from the road, so
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Speaker 3: to get the building materials on site is quite problematic. Now,
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Speaker 3: the owners had negotiated with counsel about using cranes, but
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Speaker 3: for some reason the council said no, we don't want
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Speaker 3: cranes anywhere near this. So the owners said, well, we
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Speaker 3: are absolutely committed to building our dream home. We will
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Speaker 3: get people to bring in all of the building materials
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Speaker 3: by hand. Well, this is absolutely annoyed local neighbors who
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Speaker 3: say it's going to disrupt their neighborhood. People would be
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Speaker 3: traveling on public land to bring through the materials but
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Speaker 3: one local resident, Peter Ritchie, he called it ridiculous and ludicrous.
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Speaker 2: He told local media the idea that.
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Speaker 3: Building materials for a four story structure can be delivered
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Speaker 3: to this site by hand is ludicrous in the extreme.
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Speaker 3: This is an extremely difficult site to access and build
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Speaker 3: upon due to its steepness and lack of direct street access.
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Speaker 3: That's why it hasn't been attempted in over one hundred
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Speaker 3: and twenty five years. Well, I'm just wondering if Peter
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Speaker 3: Richie's heard of, you know, the Pyramids or the Great
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Speaker 3: Wall of China. This is amazing that they're going to
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Speaker 3: build this home. You can see the pictures on your screen.
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Speaker 3: They're going to build that and do so by bringing
19:42
Speaker 3: all of the material required by hand.
19:45
Speaker 2: I think they should be applauded.
19:46
Speaker 6: I reckon I could do it, not opposed. I'm sure
19:48
Speaker 6: they could do it brick by brick like this.
19:51
Speaker 1: That's literally what they're suggesting to do a major architectural
19:54
Speaker 1: feet But they're up for it, so why not let
19:57
Speaker 1: them do it. Besides, they had planned end to have
20:00
Speaker 1: a crane delivered so that the crane could just swing
20:03
Speaker 1: on down bring the materials needed to the site.
20:08
Speaker 5: The council advised, we're not going to give you the
20:11
Speaker 5: thumbs up for that.
20:12
Speaker 1: So now these guys are like, well, on the advice
20:15
Speaker 1: of counsel, who's probably going to turn them down anyway,
20:18
Speaker 1: Because for those of you who don't live in New
20:20
Speaker 1: South Wales, the whole point of living in Mossman is
20:24
Speaker 1: to separate yourselves from the great unwashed.
20:26
Speaker 5: They hate all new development.
20:28
Speaker 1: In fact, the last time we were discussing was the
20:31
Speaker 1: mayor over there was saying, remember when they had their.
20:35
Speaker 4: Housing I was about to bring that up.
20:38
Speaker 6: Bossman has been so compared to say Blacktown, right, which
20:43
Speaker 6: is a great middle grade westerns They had a housing
20:46
Speaker 6: target of more than twenty thousand new homes over the
20:51
Speaker 6: next five years.
20:52
Speaker 4: They are currently beating that target.
20:55
Speaker 6: Mosso in black Town had a housing target of just
20:58
Speaker 6: one hundred, one hundred new.
21:01
Speaker 2: Homes a year, and how were they going?
21:02
Speaker 6: And last year I believe they built sixteen And so
21:06
Speaker 6: they cannot even they cannot even do the most basic
21:09
Speaker 6: stuff to actually get people houses, even their own. Remember,
21:13
Speaker 6: and yet somehow this thing has snuck through. They say,
21:16
Speaker 6: oh yeah, this side looks all right, this fantastic, It
21:19
Speaker 6: is just amazing. Not only do they block houses Mossman.
21:22
Speaker 6: There was a complaint about children playing in the backyard
21:26
Speaker 6: from one Mossman resident. They complained and tried to get
21:30
Speaker 6: a bowls club shut down because it was too loud
21:34
Speaker 6: on afternoons where they had the kids jumping castle.
21:37
Speaker 4: They also took assue with a trivia night and.
21:40
Speaker 6: Best of all, in the middle of COVID they actually
21:44
Speaker 6: objected to, residents objected to, and the council shut it down.
21:48
Speaker 6: Mossman's only COVID testing clinic, only mobile type.
21:54
Speaker 4: What did they act to that?
21:55
Speaker 6: We would rather die, We would rather die than have
21:59
Speaker 6: beautiful quiet.
22:00
Speaker 2: What was the objective?
22:01
Speaker 4: Too much traffic?
22:03
Speaker 1: Traffic, So for all the rest of the plans not
22:07
Speaker 1: here in Mossman.
22:08
Speaker 3: We do not really but if someone in the home,
22:12
Speaker 3: they probably would have dubbed on them.
22:13
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, yeah, yeah, that would we. Well, the.
22:17
Speaker 6: Neighbors who complained about the children playing in the backyard,
22:20
Speaker 6: that was during lockdowns. So they were complaining about the lockdowns,
22:24
Speaker 6: complaining about the testing, complaining about the children on both
22:28
Speaker 6: the jumping castle and in the backyard, and shut down
22:32
Speaker 6: the testing center. And now they have built just sixteen
22:35
Speaker 6: out of one hundred annual housing new housing development targets
22:41
Speaker 6: compared to blacktowns more than four thousand over the same period.
22:46
Speaker 4: And this is the house that they reckon. Is okay,
22:50
Speaker 4: they have much.
22:52
Speaker 5: To worry about. There is no way any council who wants.
22:55
Speaker 1: To be re elected in Bosman is going to give
22:58
Speaker 1: the green ticks.
23:02
Speaker 2: It's the other thing with this.
23:03
Speaker 3: This is not going to help alleviate the housing crisis
23:05
Speaker 3: because how many years do you think it's going to
23:07
Speaker 3: take them just to get all the building material on site?
23:11
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, it's also not going to alleviate the
23:13
Speaker 1: housing crisis because it's Batsman.
23:15
Speaker 5: Yes, sing will.
23:16
Speaker 1: Sell for god knows how many millions if and when
23:20
Speaker 1: it's ever completed, and I don't imagine that it would
23:24
Speaker 1: be housing more than a handful of people anyway. Moving
23:28
Speaker 1: on to Catholic school formals, there's been a staush as
23:33
Speaker 1: a group of Catholic schools have.
23:34
Speaker 5: Decided that you can no longer bring a date to
23:38
Speaker 5: your formal.
23:39
Speaker 1: Now they're being accused of making this move due to
23:43
Speaker 1: one student in one of these Catholic schools bringing along
23:48
Speaker 1: her lesbian date. So they said, oh well, let's put
23:52
Speaker 1: our foot down at least that's what they're being accused
23:55
Speaker 1: of being.
23:57
Speaker 5: That's why they've made this move. They deny this, they say.
24:00
Speaker 1: As for the exclusional of external partners at end of
24:04
Speaker 1: school celebrations, many of the archdiocese co ed schools never
24:08
Speaker 1: allowed for them in the first place, the spokesman said,
24:11
Speaker 1: and historically has only been allowed to bring students from
24:15
Speaker 1: within their communities.
24:17
Speaker 5: Well, it does seem in third there.
24:20
Speaker 1: Sydney Catholic Schools spokesperson then went on to talk about
24:25
Speaker 1: this is a duty of care issue, which is also
24:27
Speaker 1: why we've.
24:28
Speaker 5: Banned alcohol as a school system.
24:31
Speaker 1: We have a duty of care to our staff and
24:33
Speaker 1: students at any school event. The prohibition of alcohol at
24:36
Speaker 1: school events is consistent with our code of conduct. The
24:40
Speaker 1: focus of these events is on celebration of our students,
24:43
Speaker 1: their school lives, friendships and achievements. We do not believe
24:47
Speaker 1: that alcohol is a necessary part of any school event
24:50
Speaker 1: or sell abration. I say hats off to the Catholics,
24:55
Speaker 1: even if you are best known for really enjoying a drink.
24:59
Speaker 5: They have a the Catholic Church, I know absolutely.
25:03
Speaker 1: I simply love it when schools or any other institution
25:07
Speaker 1: of conservative background actually stand up for their values and
25:11
Speaker 1: say like it all lump it.
25:13
Speaker 5: This is how we're rolling.
25:14
Speaker 3: So so take the two issues one at a time.
25:16
Speaker 3: Talk to me about the decision that you can't bring
25:19
Speaker 3: a date. And it's not just your formals, it's on
25:22
Speaker 3: any other sort of major functions throughout the year. And
25:25
Speaker 3: no matter what they say, clearly they have done this
25:27
Speaker 3: because the last time that someone was allowed to bring
25:30
Speaker 3: a date, as you said, a young girl bought her girlfriend.
25:34
Speaker 3: The Catholic School said, we really don't want that, it
25:37
Speaker 3: goes against our values. Well that became a media storm
25:41
Speaker 3: where the Catholics can't win, right, they're accused of discriminating.
25:44
Speaker 3: Even Chris Mins, who I believe is a Catholic, said
25:47
Speaker 3: that the Catholic Church needed to get with the times
25:50
Speaker 3: and allow this to happen. So clearly the Catholic School
25:53
Speaker 3: want to retain their orthodoxy, but they don't want the
25:56
Speaker 3: media storm. It's going to come every year some kid
25:59
Speaker 3: is going to do this.
26:00
Speaker 2: Really blame them.
26:00
Speaker 6: It's just such a Catholic response. It's like, right, they
26:04
Speaker 6: opened the door a crack and then suddenly, oh my god.
26:06
Speaker 4: There's lesbians. It's right, No, no, no, one's bring whatever
26:10
Speaker 4: and also forever.
26:11
Speaker 3: That's a totally unfair characterization. That is not what happened
26:16
Speaker 3: at all. What happened was you're going to a Catholic school.
26:19
Speaker 3: Clearly they believe that marriage and sex is between a
26:22
Speaker 3: man and a woman, so they don't believe in gay relationships.
26:26
Speaker 2: You've got a student who brings her.
26:28
Speaker 3: Gay partner to the formal knowing full well that's against
26:31
Speaker 3: Catholic teaching.
26:33
Speaker 2: The Catholic school.
26:33
Speaker 6: Says out that she wasn't allowed to, but certainly when
26:35
Speaker 6: it became clear that her other partner was saying sex,
26:38
Speaker 6: then she was then.
26:40
Speaker 3: So the Catholic school's deal and the next thing it's
26:45
Speaker 3: a media storm. You've got Chris Mian's the premier involved,
26:48
Speaker 3: you've got a quality Australia involved.
26:51
Speaker 6: Every Christian school now to me, was at like the
26:54
Speaker 6: forefront of saying, you know, when you know when two
26:56
Speaker 6: GB is championing a progressive cause, it's actually pre mainstream.
27:01
Speaker 3: So of course the Catholic schools would say, you know what,
27:03
Speaker 3: we just won't have any dates and will save ourselves.
27:06
Speaker 5: It's very smart.
27:08
Speaker 1: But you speak of this media storm.
27:10
Speaker 5: Because Catholics are being Catholics.
27:13
Speaker 1: How dare they stand by their values, how dare they
27:16
Speaker 1: stand by the biblical.
27:17
Speaker 5: Basis for relationships? Well, well to GB.
27:21
Speaker 1: Get onto a premier Chrisman's.
27:23
Speaker 5: You call yourself a Catholic? What a sad excuse?
27:25
Speaker 1: Then lays into the Catholic schools to crying out loud.
27:29
Speaker 1: Why is it always Christian schools that get the bad
27:34
Speaker 1: end of the stick every time it's like, oh, you
27:38
Speaker 1: wouldn't allow a trans transtudent to be a student in
27:42
Speaker 1: your school? No, because it goes against our ethos. And
27:46
Speaker 1: all the other parents would be upset by that as well,
27:48
Speaker 1: because there's a reason why they chosen public education for
27:52
Speaker 1: their children, and they don't want them to be.
27:58
Speaker 4: So many people.
27:58
Speaker 6: I just look at theumber of kids in Catholic schools
28:01
Speaker 6: and look at the number of people who rock up
28:03
Speaker 6: to Mass every week. It's a pretty big difference. They
28:05
Speaker 6: are not the people who send their kids.
28:07
Speaker 1: Well, I've already putthe I'm not sure that I'm not
28:10
Speaker 1: aware there was an a single complaint by a parent.
28:13
Speaker 3: But it's not the parents who make the school. It's
28:15
Speaker 3: it's Catholicism that makes the school. And they go to
28:17
Speaker 3: the school because it is Catholic. They like the values,
28:20
Speaker 3: the teaching, because that's what you sign up all, then
28:24
Speaker 3: that's what you get.
28:24
Speaker 2: Don't complain. What about the second issue.
28:26
Speaker 4: Catholic value.
28:27
Speaker 6: Catholic values have evolved time and time offered very slowly,
28:31
Speaker 6: but they have evolved time.
28:34
Speaker 3: Values on sexuality have not evolved.
28:37
Speaker 6: Should know if you look at what Pope Francis is
28:39
Speaker 6: saying about homes.
28:43
Speaker 4: The head of the church.
28:44
Speaker 5: Back to what literally just.
28:45
Speaker 1: Said, that the religions are the same and lead to God.
28:49
Speaker 5: That is absolute.
28:51
Speaker 4: You know more about Catholic doctrine than.
28:53
Speaker 1: The pope, But I know that there is no Catholic
28:57
Speaker 1: who's actually a Catholic who would back the Pope on that.
29:01
Speaker 1: He literally sat there saying Islam, Judaism, Christianity, the High Faith.
29:07
Speaker 1: If you're like, whatever you like, they all.
29:09
Speaker 5: Lead to God.
29:10
Speaker 1: We're all God's children. Really, then why should I follow Christ?
29:14
Speaker 1: Why should I follow Christ?
29:15
Speaker 5: We're all headed there anyway? John four sixteen says.
29:20
Speaker 4: Red Sheridan, I am way the truth.
29:22
Speaker 5: No man comes to the Father but by me.
29:24
Speaker 1: So maybe this Pope Francis once to read the bik.
29:29
Speaker 6: Reg Sheridan said exactly the same thing about his wife.
29:31
Speaker 2: As a sigh, all right, let's go to the second
29:33
Speaker 2: topic here.
29:33
Speaker 3: I was going to have no alcohol at school formals
29:36
Speaker 3: for the parents.
29:37
Speaker 5: Read the book.
29:37
Speaker 2: We're happy with that.
29:39
Speaker 6: There's a lot of Catholic doctrine aside from the Bible.
29:42
Speaker 6: In fact, there's a lot of things that Catholics do
29:44
Speaker 6: that has absolutely no basis in the Bible whatsoever.
29:46
Speaker 4: But anyway, as for the drinking, well aware, there is
29:48
Speaker 4: one thing, well, let's do every.
29:50
Speaker 6: Single Sunday, and that is all that These days they
29:52
Speaker 6: just get that. You just get the bread, but like
29:55
Speaker 6: the wine as part of the Eucharist, and now the
29:57
Speaker 6: kids can't even have it.
29:59
Speaker 3: I went to a school formal and parents get on
30:01
Speaker 3: the drink, and some of the parents get a little
30:03
Speaker 3: bit willing, And I can understand why a school would say,
30:05
Speaker 3: you know what, we just don't want that at our formal.
30:07
Speaker 2: So you can have a.
30:10
Speaker 4: Drinking and let the kids do the drinking. WI should
30:12
Speaker 4: they regret.
30:13
Speaker 2: The point is they should have the right to do
30:15
Speaker 2: what they want. Surely.
30:16
Speaker 3: Well, Prime Minister Anthony Elberizi, he's not in a great
30:20
Speaker 3: mood lately, is struggling in the polls, an election coming up.
30:24
Speaker 2: Interest rates aren't going down.
30:26
Speaker 3: He was interviewed on the ABC Today and would have
30:30
Speaker 3: thought it would be a softball interview, and to be honest,
30:32
Speaker 3: it was pretty soft, But he was not happy have
30:35
Speaker 3: listened to what happened.
30:36
Speaker 6: Are you saying negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions
30:41
Speaker 6: are absolutely off the table for you?
30:44
Speaker 2: Well, they're tax policies.
30:45
Speaker 5: But are those tax policies? Are those tax policies completely
30:50
Speaker 5: off the table for you?
30:51
Speaker 3: Well, Patricia, I don't answer the sort of those sort
30:56
Speaker 3: of questions in the way that you mean good ones. Yeah,
31:00
Speaker 3: that's a good question.
31:00
Speaker 5: Are you going to say no to those or not?
31:04
Speaker 3: There are things that journalists The next question is when
31:06
Speaker 3: will the election be?
31:08
Speaker 2: That's not my next question. Yeah, well, they're not terribly
31:11
Speaker 2: clever questions.
31:12
Speaker 3: I just love Patricia kevellis doing a running commentary on
31:16
Speaker 3: her own interview.
31:18
Speaker 4: I thought that was actually a good comeback, good ones.
31:21
Speaker 3: I asked a good question, full credit to myself, and
31:23
Speaker 3: I'll tell you my next question. So, but Anthony Albanezie,
31:26
Speaker 3: as I said, he would have gone on ABC expecting
31:29
Speaker 3: to be given a fairly you know, soft ride, easy questions,
31:35
Speaker 3: and it wasn't that difficult just rule in or out
31:38
Speaker 3: these particulars yes or no question.
31:40
Speaker 1: Are these absolutely off the table for you?
31:43
Speaker 5: So I'm just going to get snappy instead.
31:45
Speaker 3: Is this a sign that Anthony Albanezi is feeling the
31:47
Speaker 3: pressure and he's sensing that he's in trouble.
31:50
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen this snappiness from him before, and look,
31:53
Speaker 1: no leader is immune to the pressures of the job.
31:57
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going to start pulling out prime
31:59
Speaker 1: ministers who have like lost it a bit and been
32:02
Speaker 1: less graceful than they should in the moment, then we'd.
32:06
Speaker 5: Be here all night. But clearly he was having a
32:09
Speaker 5: morning of it.
32:09
Speaker 1: I don't know why he chose to answer in that
32:12
Speaker 1: way because it actually, I my understanding, Joe correct me
32:16
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, that was a relatively easy question for him,
32:20
Speaker 1: absolutely to do it.
32:21
Speaker 6: I think it's probably just early in the morning. You know,
32:23
Speaker 6: it's breakfast radio. You know, probably you know it's still
32:26
Speaker 6: just you know, waiting for the coffee to kick in.
32:29
Speaker 3: Was he surprised that he was getting some tough questions
32:31
Speaker 3: on the ABC and that's why he reacted.
32:33
Speaker 2: Because I.
32:36
Speaker 6: Don't know, I don't know, like that's not something that's
32:39
Speaker 6: like retroducing negative gearing.
32:40
Speaker 4: But maybe he does have a secret plan.
32:42
Speaker 6: I certainly not something that is on my radar, or
32:45
Speaker 6: I would have thought was on sort of anybody's.
32:48
Speaker 4: Radar, I mean, albow.
32:51
Speaker 6: It was widely understood within the Labor Party, and an
32:55
Speaker 6: entire review and new platform was written on the back
32:59
Speaker 6: of the twenty nine ten loss overt negative gearing that said,
33:02
Speaker 6: we cannot do this, we cannot touch this stuff.
33:04
Speaker 4: It's just a terrible, terrible look for us.
33:06
Speaker 5: Since it was actually an easy question.
33:08
Speaker 6: So so it was strange that I suppose it was
33:10
Speaker 6: strange that they didn't just say no. But I suspect
33:13
Speaker 6: that it was just something that wasn't on his It
33:16
Speaker 6: wasn't on his radar, that he was sort of blindsided
33:19
Speaker 6: that it was there and just sort of thought, oh god,
33:22
Speaker 6: I've just got to try to shut this down and
33:23
Speaker 6: move on.
33:24
Speaker 3: Because but of course, the ridiculous thing is, had he
33:26
Speaker 3: just played us straight back to that question, no one
33:29
Speaker 3: would be talking about this interview and most of the
33:30
Speaker 3: country wouldn't have even known about it. But because he
33:33
Speaker 3: reacted the way he did, it's front page.
33:36
Speaker 6: News, that's right, And again it would have only been
33:38
Speaker 6: known by the listeners of Radio National.
33:41
Speaker 2: Like I said, small number of people.
33:43
Speaker 4: Proportion of the Australian Electric Yeah, that's right.
33:45
Speaker 6: I think it was probably just him not expecting the
33:48
Speaker 6: question and trying to sort of flub his way out
33:51
Speaker 6: of it, and or perhaps even you know, like if
33:53
Speaker 6: you ask the question like that, think, oh God, what
33:55
Speaker 6: have I said before?
33:56
Speaker 4: What is our actual formal position? You know?
33:59
Speaker 6: Have we you know, have we one hundred percent? And
34:01
Speaker 6: he would have just thought it's probably just cipher at
34:03
Speaker 6: six o'clock in the morning or seven or where it
34:05
Speaker 6: was they were doing the interview to just try to
34:07
Speaker 6: close it down and move on. But doesn't always work
34:10
Speaker 6: the way you plan.
34:11
Speaker 4: It to, does it. No.
34:14
Speaker 1: Back to the UK now, where with so many migrants
34:17
Speaker 1: pouring over the Channel and brit Faney.
34:20
Speaker 5: Are screaming out for some.
34:22
Speaker 1: Relief, paying millions of pounds week in week out to
34:26
Speaker 1: how'se illegal migrants in rather fancy hotels.
34:30
Speaker 5: Britain has just announced they will not turn back migrant boats.
34:34
Speaker 1: They will not send them back to France as it
34:36
Speaker 1: breaches maritime law and risks passenger safety.
34:42
Speaker 5: Dama Angela Eagle in the UK's position.
34:44
Speaker 1: Said the French don't accept that migrants should always be.
34:47
Speaker 5: Returned to them.
34:48
Speaker 1: If incidents happen in French territorial waters, they go back
34:52
Speaker 1: to France. If they happen in British territorial waters, we
34:56
Speaker 1: bring them into safety in the UK. Can't imagine many
35:01
Speaker 1: English tax payers are very happy about this. And this
35:05
Speaker 1: is being compared with Italy's recent nine million pounds I
35:10
Speaker 1: keep going to say dollars deal with Tunisia which allows
35:14
Speaker 1: for the interception and return of migrant vessels. So Italy's
35:18
Speaker 1: done this great deal, we don't have to deal with
35:21
Speaker 1: this anymore. Italy has also had a lot of people
35:24
Speaker 1: rocking up onto their shores via boats, and the UK
35:28
Speaker 1: just seems to be so reticent to do anything about
35:32
Speaker 1: what is a ginormous problem.
35:34
Speaker 5: Nigel Farage must be ripping his hair out with his
35:36
Speaker 5: latest announcement.
35:37
Speaker 2: It is the Johnormo's problem.
35:38
Speaker 3: They've had twenty one thousand illegals cross the Channel in
35:42
Speaker 3: the nine months to September, and just last Saturday there
35:45
Speaker 3: are eight hundred and one illegals in fourteen boats. Of course,
35:49
Speaker 3: on Sunday eight people died when one of the boats sank,
35:53
Speaker 3: so they've got a major issue here. Amnesty International were
35:57
Speaker 3: quite disingenuous by saying that it's the government fault because
36:00
Speaker 3: they haven't provided a safe pathway for illegals to get
36:04
Speaker 3: into the UK.
36:06
Speaker 6: I think, I mean, the real story here is that
36:08
Speaker 6: the ninety million pounds, which is about what two hundred
36:10
Speaker 6: million is Jian dollars something like that, which France I
36:13
Speaker 6: imagine would not come that cheaply. France is a much
36:16
Speaker 6: much richer country than Gunisia. So what Italy can do
36:20
Speaker 6: to basically, say, you know, similar to what we were
36:22
Speaker 6: going to do with you know, the Malaysian solution or
36:25
Speaker 6: something like that, where we were just going to find
36:27
Speaker 6: find a sweet spot, find a country which was undesirable
36:30
Speaker 6: enough to sort of stem the flow and just do
36:32
Speaker 6: the swap.
36:32
Speaker 4: We did it with America as well.
36:35
Speaker 6: I suspect, you know, and what Australia has done is
36:39
Speaker 6: actually much more sort of quiet and clever and dar
36:43
Speaker 6: say a little bit sneaky as well, but has all
36:46
Speaker 6: been done. I think these are the sort of things
36:48
Speaker 6: you can't really do almost above board.
36:49
Speaker 4: You have to do it, you know, no comment on water.
36:52
Speaker 6: Matters, as they say, just you don't want to know
36:54
Speaker 6: what people are doing and you just want it sort
36:56
Speaker 6: of out of sight and out of mind.
36:57
Speaker 3: It's certainly going to be a problem for the Labor
37:00
Speaker 3: government in the UK.
37:00
Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
37:01
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
37:04
Speaker 3: including Gold Coast unit owners will be taxed.
37:07
Speaker 2: According to their view. It's coming up in just a second.
37:14
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
37:14
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers.
37:17
Speaker 2: We'll start with a.
37:17
Speaker 3: Great story on the front page of tomorrow's Canberra Times,
37:21
Speaker 3: a couple of primary school kids who've clearly watched that
37:24
Speaker 3: classic film The Great Escape. The headline reads, students escape
37:29
Speaker 3: unseen Canberra primary school students dug under a fence to
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Speaker 3: go home at lunch. Two children dug underneath the fence
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Speaker 3: and left school grounds unnoticed at a Canberra primary school
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Speaker 3: that was suffering from staff shortages. In what the Act
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Speaker 3: Education Directorate had described as a scary incident. These two
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Speaker 3: young children from Mount Rogers Primary School had been in
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Speaker 3: the sick bay earlier in the day. Then they were
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Speaker 3: feeling a bit better, so they were allowed to go lunch,
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Speaker 3: but apparently decided want to go home, so they dug
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Speaker 3: a hole under the school fence and headed home and
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Speaker 3: the teachers didn't realize because when class went back, they
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Speaker 3: just assumed these kids were in sick babe. So apparently
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Speaker 3: one of the kids is his name is what Steve McQueen.
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Speaker 6: Like this just so the teacher just said, oh, the
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Speaker 6: kids not in clab didn't come back, I assume the
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Speaker 6: just in sick back, Like, wouldn't that be more reason
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Speaker 6: Like if you thought they were sick and this that
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Speaker 6: they were in sick bate, wouldn't.
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Speaker 4: That be like more reason to check?
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Speaker 6: And then I said, oh, but it's because the resources
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Speaker 6: we don't have an electronic role. We had to mark
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Speaker 6: them with the paper roll. But like, aren't they still
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Speaker 6: not there? Like how does how does that make it?
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Speaker 2: It said old thing about you should never assume because.
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Speaker 4: But this is this moment.
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Speaker 6: Another story Punchball Boys High which was a pretty fair
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Speaker 6: to say, pretty willing educational environment a few years ago
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Speaker 6: before my good friends you had did took over and
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Speaker 6: did amazing things. His principal there, and one of the
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Speaker 6: problems was this very thing. This is a high school, obviously,
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Speaker 6: so kids were tunneling under the fence and just buggering
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Speaker 6: off in the middle of the school all the time.
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Speaker 6: It was just notorious, and he didn't know what to do.
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Speaker 6: There was one problem. He thought they were going out
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Speaker 6: to get some chickens and from Fried Chicken or El
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Speaker 6: Janna Chicken from the shop because.
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Speaker 4: They love the chicken and chips.
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Speaker 6: And so he said, right, we're going to get the
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Speaker 6: chicken and chips and do it in the school canteens
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Speaker 6: so they don't have to get it.
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Speaker 4: Very smart.
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Speaker 6: Other thing you did it, they did it next to
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Speaker 6: he went to flower Power and got some Bogan villayers. Right,
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Speaker 6: He said, I want to get all your's Oligan villiers.
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Speaker 6: Thank you very much, sir, I'll take these. And the
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Speaker 6: guy behind the count said, oh, we've got the thorn
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Speaker 6: free ones. Now you don't have to go no, no,
39:52
Speaker 6: I want the thorns the thorns.
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Speaker 5: Have you got a breed with extra? These kids watch
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Speaker 5: the Showshank Redemption. They're like, where aret it came back.
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Speaker 6: To class after life for their uniforms to shred it
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Speaker 6: looking like the incredible howkun.
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Speaker 1: To the rumpage of the Courier mail now and in
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Speaker 1: news that will surprise absolutely none of you.
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Speaker 5: Green offset schemes are failures? What carbon cop out?
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Speaker 7: Wait, we've been getting ripped off green carbet offset schemes,
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Speaker 7: where customers pay more for travel or bills to fund
40:28
Speaker 7: regeneration projects that offset their emissions, are.
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Speaker 1: Often complete failures or impossible to track new research claims.
40:37
Speaker 1: In a study of one hundred and eighty two Australian
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Speaker 1: forest projects, A and you, professor Andrew Macintosh found quote
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Speaker 1: limited evidence of regeneration end quote and in almost eighty
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Speaker 1: percent of cases would he cover had experienced negligible growth
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Speaker 1: to projects back by AGL have actually seen a decrease
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Speaker 1: in tree cover. So any of those blogs that genuinely think,
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Speaker 1: oh I'm catching a plane, Yes, I will pay extra,
41:05
Speaker 1: thanks for asking quantas so I can fly guilt free,
41:09
Speaker 1: You've just been sucked in.
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Speaker 5: Apparently it does absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 6: Oh I actually just had to check my check to
41:15
Speaker 6: find out if my energy provider was a g L
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Speaker 6: and Fine Energy Australia.
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Speaker 5: They must be fine, Okay conscientious.
41:23
Speaker 6: I am so concient. But yeah, because we do I
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Speaker 6: do do that. I'm one of those Oh.
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Speaker 5: You don't you believe them? Trusting like for every flight
41:32
Speaker 5: you take, we'll plan a tree for you.
41:34
Speaker 6: Joe Daily tableaud journalist. If someone tells me something, I
41:38
Speaker 6: just accepted it bose value, especially to come an offset
41:41
Speaker 6: scheme it speaking of which the Mighty Telegraph has an
41:45
Speaker 6: absolutely incredible and this is just classic stuff. I did
41:47
Speaker 6: not have anything to do with this, but it's just quittessent,
41:50
Speaker 6: she'll tell you. I'm pretty sure I can imagine the
41:52
Speaker 6: editor be in English thinking of this in conference. You
41:55
Speaker 6: can almost I can almost see him leaning back as
41:57
Speaker 6: the cogs start to turn in his mind.
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Speaker 4: That Sydney we have a problem, reads.
42:03
Speaker 6: The headline says, the people of New South Wales are
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Speaker 6: buying fifty thousand bags of cocaine a day, with the
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Speaker 6: States Police Minister Yasmen Cautley pointing the figure squarely at
42:15
Speaker 6: our federal counterparts.
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Speaker 4: There's a surprise.
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Speaker 6: State federal gram say it's their job to stop the
42:20
Speaker 6: drugs at the border. So great investigation, great exposure. So
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Speaker 6: he's been doing a lot of work on this. But
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Speaker 6: the most amazing stuff is if you look at that picture,
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Speaker 6: if we can pull it up again on the front page.
42:32
Speaker 6: Behind it, the Daily Telegraph has actually hired a grater
42:39
Speaker 6: to dump six tons of sand so that you can
42:44
Speaker 6: actually get a visual image.
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Speaker 4: Of how much cocaine is being consumed in Sydney. Every
42:54
Speaker 4: every every day.
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Speaker 6: What is its tons of cocaine in four months, so
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Speaker 6: about six thous about six times about a year, so
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Speaker 6: it's just amazing huge amount.
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Speaker 3: Well, if you strapolate it out, it's eighteen million bags
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Speaker 3: are being snorted every year in New South Wales.
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Speaker 4: Which is on die alone, it's two.
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Speaker 2: Bags per resident.
43:16
Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Gold Coast
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Speaker 3: bulletin where the headline reads a Ringside View high rise
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Speaker 3: residents take rate hike fight up to the council. Residents
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Speaker 3: have put on the gloves and are ready to go
43:28
Speaker 3: ten rounds with the Gold Coast City Council over the
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Speaker 3: view tax. Opponents of a hike on units have ramped
43:34
Speaker 3: up their campaign after council agreed to a review of
43:37
Speaker 3: a controversial measure which would result in residents rates bills
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Speaker 3: being adjusted depending on what floor of a building they
43:45
Speaker 3: live on.
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Speaker 2: Now, up until just recently.
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Speaker 3: Whether you lived on the first floor or the fortieth floor,
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Speaker 3: you paid the same rates. But council are proposing to
43:55
Speaker 3: adjust the rates higher and higher as you go. So
43:59
Speaker 3: if you live on level one, two, three or four
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Speaker 3: you won't get any increase at all. But if you
44:05
Speaker 3: live on levels five to ten it's a up to
44:08
Speaker 3: twenty percent increase. If you live on levels eleven to twenty,
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Speaker 3: it's a thirty percent increase, twenty one to forty it's
44:15
Speaker 3: a forty percent increase. And if you live on level
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Speaker 3: forty or above on a Gold Coast high rise, you'll
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Speaker 3: get a fifty percent increase in your rates.
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Speaker 4: Those people are complaining just.
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Speaker 3: Because you live high up doesn't mean necessarily you've got
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Speaker 3: a view, because some of the rate payers are saying,
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Speaker 3: we used to have a view, but then another building
44:34
Speaker 3: was put in front of us, and we're still getting
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Speaker 3: tax like we had our old view.
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Speaker 4: It's not fair. Think how much.
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Speaker 6: More the building in front of you is paying on
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Speaker 6: their rates doesn't make you feel about it.
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Speaker 3: Isn't the point of units though, that it doesn't cost
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Speaker 3: the council that much extra in provisions because it's.
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Speaker 4: Because it's done.
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Speaker 2: You're in the sky.
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Speaker 6: So in other homes, the more valuable a home is,
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Speaker 6: the higher the rates are.
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Speaker 4: So surely to tax the rich measure well, that's generally
45:03
Speaker 4: the point of taxing.
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Speaker 1: I know it doesn't seem fair in terms of council rates.
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Speaker 1: If it's roads rates and rubbish, we all require the
45:10
Speaker 1: same service.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and every other.
45:12
Speaker 6: Like if you've got a mansion on a hill, you
45:14
Speaker 6: pay more rates than if you've got a three bedroom
45:16
Speaker 6: bungalow in the valley, So why wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: The same which is based on land right value.
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Speaker 6: I think it's based on the value of the value
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Speaker 6: of the high There's not that.
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Speaker 1: Many councils on a hill though, is there castles on
45:28
Speaker 1: a hill?
45:28
Speaker 5: Rather to the front page of the Oars before we.
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Speaker 1: Leave you, Miles in abortion attack on chrisal Fooley, Hang
45:35
Speaker 1: on a minute, Chris A.
45:36
Speaker 5: Fuley hasn't said anything about abortion.
45:38
Speaker 1: Probably Stephen Miles and his front bench have launched a
45:41
Speaker 1: scare campaign on abortion in the last ditchployee to stay
45:44
Speaker 1: in power with the help of women voters, despite l
45:47
Speaker 1: MP leader David Chris of Fooley's insistence he will not
45:51
Speaker 1: change laws and would continue funding Labour's forty two million
45:55
Speaker 1: dollar abortion action plans. So Miles seems to have taken
46:00
Speaker 1: a leaf out of the book of the Democrats in
46:02
Speaker 1: America and decided to run on an issue that literally
46:07
Speaker 1: isn't an issue.
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Speaker 5: As Chris of Fooley. As Miles has.
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Speaker 1: Been uploading all this nonsense to his social media christ
46:14
Speaker 1: Aph Fuoley has repeatedly said, this is a nonsense.
46:17
Speaker 5: Where's the misinformation? Disinformation people cracking down on this?
46:23
Speaker 6: But what's Christopholly's relationship with Project twenty twenty five.
46:25
Speaker 4: That's what we're going to go to a break.
46:27
Speaker 3: Will we come back a Victorian golfer donz a wig
46:29
Speaker 3: and address to try and get a discount being offered
46:32
Speaker 3: to female golfers. We'll show you how that goes in
46:34
Speaker 3: just a second. Well, with less than fifty days to
46:40
Speaker 3: the election, the US presidential race is heating up now.
46:43
Speaker 3: One of the things that I'm sure you're aware of
46:44
Speaker 3: in the US is that there's no compulsory voting. See,
46:48
Speaker 3: I've really got to motivate people to get out there
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Speaker 3: and vote. And so Donald Trump, well he was very
46:53
Speaker 3: motivational in New York this week.
46:56
Speaker 8: We can do all of this and more, but patriotic
46:59
Speaker 8: New York must get your asses out to vote.
47:03
Speaker 4: Got to get out, Get to go out.
47:06
Speaker 8: Harry, Get up, Harry, Harry, get your fat ass out
47:10
Speaker 8: of the couch. You're going to vote for Trump today, Harry,
47:15
Speaker 8: Get up, Harry, come on, let's go, let's go.
47:19
Speaker 3: Harry, what do you reckon, Joe, Harry, get your fat
47:23
Speaker 3: ass out of the couch.
47:24
Speaker 2: Is Harry inspired or.
47:25
Speaker 6: Is I like to think Harry is a real person.
47:28
Speaker 6: I like to I like to imagine that Donald Trump
47:30
Speaker 6: was actually thinking of someone called Harry, who's notoriously lazy,
47:33
Speaker 6: just sitting there watching Seinfeld. It's a brilliant it's a
47:37
Speaker 6: brilliant strategy. Strangely enough, he does something that he knows
47:39
Speaker 6: is going to go viral. The only way he can
47:41
Speaker 6: win is if he gets some surge in people coming
47:44
Speaker 6: out to vote who otherwise wouldn't vote. Every single russet
47:47
Speaker 6: On Trump voter is going to wade through, you know,
47:49
Speaker 6: crocodile infested.
47:50
Speaker 2: Who want us to vote for him.
47:52
Speaker 6: So he's got and that's not enough as it stands now,
47:55
Speaker 6: and so he's got to get He's got to get Harry.
47:57
Speaker 6: He's got to get Harry, who was otherwise just going
47:58
Speaker 6: to sit this one out, and somehow get him energize.
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Speaker 1: I got to get Harry to move your ass.
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Speaker 8: Harry.
48:04
Speaker 1: Well, just before we leave you tonight, a golf club
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Speaker 1: in Victoria who has offered a special six day deal
48:11
Speaker 1: at a reduced rate for female players got more than
48:15
Speaker 1: they were asking for when an old mate player decided, well,
48:19
Speaker 1: since we can identify as whatever we like nowadays, I
48:23
Speaker 1: want the cheaper rate, Kerrie, is it.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I'm identifying as a female now and I'm just
48:30
Speaker 7: about to inquire about the new membership.
48:39
Speaker 4: He goes, Kerry, I'm now identifying as a female. I
48:47
Speaker 4: just wanted to inquire about the new membership deal. Had
48:52
Speaker 4: to answer that, No, you need to delegate if you
49:01
Speaker 4: want to have a discussion. Then you know your.
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Speaker 5: Golf club has no sense of humor.
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Speaker 1: That bloke, the guy who filmed it and another member
49:13
Speaker 1: is now suspended.
49:15
Speaker 5: They were just taking the met.
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Speaker 8: It wasn't right.
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Speaker 4: You couldn't see the skirt. There was a pitch in
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Speaker 4: the Why think man, I mean woman?
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Speaker 3: That's it from us stick Around Coming up in just
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Speaker 3: a moment is the reader Penney Show.
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Speaker 2: Good Night,