Latest / Booker Scott: Truth Be Told / The Federal Land Grab and Workplace Censorship
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- 0:20Speaker 3: It's time for Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
- 0:25Speaker 2: One of the questions I recently had had to do
- 0:27Speaker 2: with MRNA going into beef cattle, milk cows, and chickens, poultry,
- 0:34Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. And I really didn't know.
- 0:36Speaker 2: I did some research. It doesn't appear that the USDA
- 0:39Speaker 2: has approved any MRNA to be injected into cows yet.
- 0:45Speaker 2: But there may be a study going on to find
- 0:47Speaker 2: out if that's going to happen. As usual, I don't
- 0:50Speaker 2: know how to answer all these questions, but I know
- 0:52Speaker 2: somebody that does. And I'm going to bring her into
- 0:54Speaker 2: the program now. She's been here several times. Her name
- 0:57Speaker 2: is Brianna Sagdahl. She is a senior writer for the
- 1:01Speaker 2: Beef Initiative and also a fellow there. Brianna, welcome back
- 1:04Speaker 2: to the program. Glad to have you.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Booker. I'm so glad to be
- 1:08Speaker 4: back on with you.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Love your show. Really appreciate it.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Thank you. The last time you were here, you were
- 1:13Speaker 2: talking about an executive order that Donald Trump needed to
- 1:16Speaker 2: sign to prevent all the federal land grab that's going on.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Has he done that yet?
- 1:21Speaker 4: Well, it was actually the repeal of various Biden-era executive orders,
- 1:27Speaker 4: and he has. We're very grateful for For the Trump administration,
- 1:32Speaker 4: really looking forward to what happens next.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to make sure that I came back
- 1:36Speaker 2: to that because that was what we talked about the
- 1:38Speaker 2: last time you were here. But let's talk about this
- 1:41Speaker 2: USDA because that is a question that has been posed
- 1:43Speaker 2: to me. I know that you will know the answer.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Are we injecting our food right now with MRNA that
- 1:51Speaker 2: has been approved by the USDA?
- 1:53Speaker 3: Well, we are.
- 1:54Speaker 4: We are injecting pork hogs, excuse me, right now. So
- 2:00Speaker 4: the Sequivity mRNA platform was approved initially for H5N1 in chickens, nonetheless.
- 2:12Speaker 4: And when Merck Animal Health purchased it from the pharmaceutical
- 2:17Speaker 4: company that created it and was given the initial BARDA
- 2:20Speaker 4: grant to develop it, they turned it into a platform.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Specifically specific to hogs. It's called sequivity.
- 2:30Speaker 4: And the FDA approved that, I believe, in 2022. So
- 2:35Speaker 4: that is currently in our domestic food supply on the
- 2:39Speaker 4: hog side. But it is not in our cattle, beef
- 2:45Speaker 4: cattle or dairy cattle supply yet.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Yet.
- 2:49Speaker 2: But it's something we should watch out for because they
- 2:51Speaker 2: are running trials on it, aren't they?
- 2:54Speaker 3: That is what I understand.
- 2:55Speaker 4: This week, the new Ag Secretary, Brooke Rawlings, which we've
- 3:00Speaker 4: all been very cautiously optimistic and hopeful for, announced that
- 3:07Speaker 4: there would be.
- 3:08Speaker 3: I think, $ 100.
- 3:10Speaker 4: Million that the USDA will be allocating towards vaccine trial
- 3:19Speaker 4: and research. And my understanding is that will go towards,
- 3:25Speaker 4: you know, trying various mRNA platforms on both poultry and cattle.
- 3:32Speaker 4: So there's been quite a bit of hubbub about this online.
- 3:36Speaker 4: But the great news is that the Beef Initiative is
- 3:40Speaker 4: your number one source of information and access to ranchers
- 3:45Speaker 4: and producers that have signed our No mRNA Pledge. So
- 3:49Speaker 4: all of our premier ranchers right on our site, beefinitiative.com,
- 3:55Speaker 4: when you go in, you find our beef map listings
- 3:59Speaker 4: and you find your local rancher nearest to you. Every
- 4:03Speaker 4: single rancher that is listed on our maps has pledged
- 4:07Speaker 4: to not use any type of mRNA in their cattle supply.
- 4:11Speaker 4: And in fact, we advocate a regenerative program through one
- 4:17Speaker 4: company called Better Fed Foods. And, you know, it's from
- 4:22Speaker 4: the soil to the fork concept. But yeah, so anyone
- 4:28Speaker 4: who is considered, or excuse me, concerned about this in
- 4:35Speaker 4: their food supply, I would highly encourage them to get
- 4:39Speaker 4: to know their nearest rancher, go shake their hand, and
- 4:43Speaker 4: start buying your meat directly from the source.
- 4:45Speaker 2: That also goes for buying chicken eggs as well. You
- 4:48Speaker 2: can do the same thing. I have been to beefinitiative.com before,
- 4:52Speaker 2: and what you would want to do is go there
- 4:55Speaker 2: and find someone that's close to you. I live in
- 4:57Speaker 2: the state of Florida. There are ranchers here in Florida
- 5:00Speaker 2: that I can buy meat from. They are at the beefinitiative.com.
- 5:04Speaker 2: They do not use MRNA in their food. So if
- 5:08Speaker 2: you're concerned about it, like Brianna said, check out the beefinitiative.com. Now,
- 5:13Speaker 2: should people be concerned about it? That's the next question.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Should people be concerned about MRNA that's in hogs and
- 5:21Speaker 2: going to be in chickens and also in beef?
- 5:24Speaker 4: Well, so, you know, unfortunately, there's just not enough research
- 5:28Speaker 4: on it to answer that in any type of definitive way.
- 5:33Speaker 4: But it is my understanding from speaking with very well-known,
- 5:38Speaker 4: very well-respected veterinarians in addition to very well-known and respected doctors,
- 5:46Speaker 4: that the mRNA platform has the potential to affect or
- 5:54Speaker 4: infect individuals while handling raw meat. Now, I don't know
- 6:00Speaker 4: that the meat temperature, either freezing it or cooking it
- 6:04Speaker 4: to a certain temperature, will necessarily inactivate that mRNA. So,
- 6:11Speaker 4: I think at this point, it's probably just better to
- 6:15Speaker 4: be safe than sorry. I think it's incredibly irresponsible to
- 6:20Speaker 4: put any type of product in our food supply that
- 6:24Speaker 4: has the potential to impact the consumer because you just
- 6:30Speaker 4: have no idea what dose, right? You can't control the
- 6:34Speaker 4: amount that individuals are getting. And so be that some
- 6:39Speaker 4: form of bike protein or whatever it might be.
- 6:42Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't my wheelhouse.
- 6:44Speaker 4: So I just, you know, I think it's probably better
- 6:48Speaker 4: to be safe than sorry.
- 6:49Speaker 3: At this point.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Yeah, be cautious.
- 6:50Speaker 3: Yeah, know exactly.
- 6:52Speaker 4: Where your food is coming from and who's raising it
- 6:55Speaker 4: and take control of your own food supply.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being cautious. You know, let's
- 7:02Speaker 2: err on that side instead of going crazy about it. Well,
- 7:05Speaker 2: I know that you had a win in the South
- 7:08Speaker 2: Dakota legislature, and we're going to get to that in
- 7:10Speaker 2: a minute. I do want to remind everyone that in
- 7:12Speaker 2: most cases, almost every state is having a legislative session
- 7:17Speaker 2: right now. So for those of you that are concerned
- 7:19Speaker 2: about things like election integrity, right now is the time
- 7:22Speaker 2: to do that. It's not going to be later. It's
- 7:24Speaker 2: not going to be when you vote. It's going to
- 7:26Speaker 2: be right now when legislative sessions are going on across
- 7:29Speaker 2: the country because those laws for election integrity need to
- 7:33Speaker 2: be done at the statehouse. But let's move on to
- 7:36Speaker 2: other laws that are being made in statehouses. The last
- 7:39Speaker 2: couple of years, I have seen laws that have been
- 7:41Speaker 2: made and passed and signed into law that would at
- 7:46Speaker 2: least tell people at the grocery, you are buying lettuce
- 7:50Speaker 2: that has MRNA in it. Have you seen those as well?
- 7:55Speaker 4: We've definitely seen an increased push across multiple states for labeling.
- 8:01Speaker 4: And in fact, we had a really fantastic one here
- 8:04Speaker 4: in South Dakota where to require the labeling of lab-cultured,
- 8:10Speaker 4: lab-cultivated meat because the Food and Safety Inspection Service kind
- 8:15Speaker 4: of dropped the ball on that, unfortunately, and we can
- 8:18Speaker 4: get into that in a minute. But yes, we're seeing
- 8:21Speaker 4: an increased effort, especially around the mRNA technology platforms. Montana,
- 8:28Speaker 4: for example, is running a bill right now. They have
- 8:33Speaker 4: it in their state legislature saying, I'm not, you know,
- 8:36Speaker 4: I honestly don't know the latest on that one, but
- 8:39Speaker 4: I do know that Montana ran a bill this year
- 8:42Speaker 4: to require the proper labeling of meat that has been
- 8:46Speaker 4: injected with mRNA.
- 8:48Speaker 2: And how would they do that? Just on the packaging?
- 8:50Speaker 2: Is that the way that that would be done?
- 8:53Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct.
- 8:54Speaker 1: All right.
- 8:54Speaker 2: And you mentioned there someone dropped the ball. Who dropped
- 8:57Speaker 2: the ball? How did they drop the ball?
- 8:59Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question.
- 9:00Speaker 4: So this goes back to the lab cultured, lab cultivated meats.
- 9:04Speaker 4: And You know, if you're not familiar with this, you know,
- 9:09Speaker 4: back in 2021, the Congress bifurcated the regulatory process. So essentially,
- 9:18Speaker 4: the FDA was given part authority over the regulatory process,
- 9:24Speaker 4: and then the USDA was given part authority. And how
- 9:27Speaker 4: they split that up was between the agencies, right? So
- 9:30Speaker 4: the FDA went ahead and they gave a what's called
- 9:33Speaker 4: no questions asked rule. approval for lab-cultured, lab-cultivated meats.
- 9:39Speaker 3: And for anyone who doesn't know.
- 9:40Speaker 4: What this is, it literally says in this no questions
- 9:44Speaker 4: asked approval with characteristics of fibroblasts and cell paste. So
- 9:53Speaker 4: it's essentially a form of self-replicating cell line that they
- 9:58Speaker 4: can grow in a petri dish. to resemble that of
- 10:02Speaker 4: a meat product. And we've got corporations, big corporations, JBS,
- 10:07Speaker 4: for example, one of the big five, or excuse me,
- 10:09Speaker 4: big four in the cattle industry.
- 10:11Speaker 3: They just opened this.
- 10:13Speaker 4: Massive biotech center out of Brazil and They're working on
- 10:17Speaker 4: not only beef, but chicken, salmon, and pork products. And
- 10:22Speaker 4: then we've got good foods here in the United States,
- 10:27Speaker 4: or excuse me, Upside Foods and Good Meats Incorporated. One
- 10:32Speaker 4: of them, I believe, is out at UC Berkeley. And
- 10:35Speaker 4: they're growing these, you know, immortal cell lines of food.
- 10:41Speaker 4: And unfortunately, the FDA says, didn't review this product for
- 10:46Speaker 4: safety because they decided that it is a meat product
- 10:51Speaker 4: and not a pharmaceutical product. So they gave it this
- 10:55Speaker 4: no questions asked approval and then sent it over to
- 11:00Speaker 4: the USDA. The USDA did something really interesting with this
- 11:05Speaker 4: under the Biden administration. Tom Vilsack approved Lab Cultured Lab
- 11:10Speaker 4: Cultivated Chicken and And then went and gave it the climate-friendly,
- 11:14Speaker 4: climate-smart label.
- 11:17Speaker 3: Or award, whatever that is.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Designation, whatever, yeah.
- 11:20Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, which prioritized it under the Federal Plan for
- 11:24Speaker 4: Equitable Long-Term Recovery and Resilience, what we were talking about
- 11:28Speaker 4: the last time I was on, for government procurement contracts,
- 11:33Speaker 4: which means, in this case, our school lunch program.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Because as many may remember, under the Obama administration, Michelle
- 11:44Speaker 4: Obama had this great idea to centralize the procurement process
- 11:49Speaker 4: through the Department of Defense for the school lunch program.
- 11:52Speaker 4: The idea was that we would leverage the buying power
- 11:56Speaker 4: of the Department of Defense, and it turned out to
- 11:58Speaker 4: be a nightmare. Trump dismantled the program while Biden brought
- 12:02Speaker 4: it back.
- 12:03Speaker 3: So unfortunately.
- 12:05Speaker 4: under this climate-friendly deal, it would be prioritized for Department
- 12:11Speaker 4: of Defense procurement in our school lunches. And we may
- 12:16Speaker 4: not even know what that is or have transparency over it,
- 12:20Speaker 4: because when it came time for the Food Safety Inspection
- 12:22Speaker 4: Service to figure out how these products should be labeled,
- 12:28Speaker 4: they were kind of bullied with comments from these massive corporations.
- 12:33Speaker 4: who claims that transparent labeling would, quote-unquote, violate the First Amendment,
- 12:41Speaker 4: hamper innovation, and harm the livestock industry. So the Food
- 12:46Speaker 4: Safety Inspection Service has kind of just been sitting on
- 12:49Speaker 4: this labeling rule change since 2021, but now the products
- 12:55Speaker 4: are approved, or at least chicken is approved, potentially going
- 13:01Speaker 4: out to our schools. And nobody's, really nobody's the wiser, right?
- 13:08Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, do you know if
- 13:10Speaker 2: any of this chicken or pork, the pork that has MRNA,
- 13:15Speaker 2: this fake chicken that isn't even real, is it making
- 13:18Speaker 2: it to our schools yet?
- 13:21Speaker 4: I think it's a really good possibility. I would almost
- 13:25Speaker 4: guarantee that. that pork with mRNA in it is in
- 13:33Speaker 4: our school lunches because it's always, those procurement contracts are
- 13:37Speaker 4: always prioritized for the largest corporations, right? So that would
- 13:41Speaker 4: include Smithfield, JBS, Tyson, for example. And, you know, it's
- 13:47Speaker 4: these large corporations that are buying from what people refer
- 13:52Speaker 4: to as industrial farms or industrial farmers, right? Which is
- 13:57Speaker 4: just kind of the stack and pack model. So I
- 14:01Speaker 4: would almost guarantee that the mRNA technology has made it
- 14:05Speaker 4: into our school lunches. I'm not positive on the lab cultured,
- 14:09Speaker 4: lab cultivated chicken, but that's what we wanted to make
- 14:13Speaker 4: sure we weren't seeing here in South Dakota. In our
- 14:18Speaker 4: kids' lunches, we weren't wanting to.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Do that guesswork.
- 14:21Speaker 4: So we had a really incredible win here in the state,
- 14:26Speaker 4: something that almost never happens We had unanimous consent from
- 14:32Speaker 4: both sides of the aisle in both chambers, meaning the
- 14:35Speaker 4: House and the Senate. Not a single member of South
- 14:39Speaker 4: Dakota state legislature voted no on this bill. And it
- 14:44Speaker 4: was very simple. All we did was bring forward this
- 14:47Speaker 4: bill asking that no public dollars, so taxpayer dollars, would
- 14:55Speaker 4: be used to either procure funds which is purchase lab culture,
- 14:59Speaker 4: lab cultivated proteins for our school lunches, national guard, what
- 15:04Speaker 4: have you, um, nor would our public dollars go into research.
- 15:09Speaker 4: And so we're very, very grateful that it passed unanimously,
- 15:13Speaker 4: which made it veto proof. I think our governor, our
- 15:16Speaker 4: new governor would have signed it anyways, but, um, and,
- 15:19Speaker 4: and we're very grateful for a representative Jana Hunt who
- 15:22Speaker 4: brought this forward and was willing to work with us and, um,
- 15:26Speaker 4: you know, get our experts in there to testify. It
- 15:30Speaker 4: was a great experience altogether, and I'm really hoping that
- 15:33Speaker 4: this will become model legislation for other states to follow.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Well, hopefully people listening to this will be awake now
- 15:40Speaker 2: to pay attention to manufactured lab meat, MRNA, that is
- 15:46Speaker 2: in hogs and chickens and maybe soon-to-be beef and milk cows.
- 15:52Speaker 2: But congratulations on your win. I hope that that inspires
- 15:56Speaker 2: some people to realize that if you decide to make
- 15:58Speaker 2: a difference, then you actually can make a difference if
- 16:02Speaker 2: you get plugged in there to your state legislature. And
- 16:05Speaker 2: that's true about the election integrity that I talked about
- 16:08Speaker 2: a few minutes ago and about what Brianna is talking about. Brianna,
- 16:12Speaker 2: tell everyone again about your Beef Initiative website, what they
- 16:17Speaker 2: can get there, and what the address is.
- 16:20Speaker 4: Yes, thank you. Thank you so much, Booker, and absolutely.
- 16:24Speaker 4: Please check us out at beefinitiative.com. Check us out on beefmaps.org.
- 16:33Speaker 4: We also have beefnews.org where you can get updates on
- 16:39Speaker 4: everything that we're doing, all of our hard work and achievements.
- 16:45Speaker 4: And make sure to check out Beef Maps and find
- 16:48Speaker 4: your local rancher.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Get to know them. Shake their hands.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Order whatever, you know, whatever size you want of, you know,
- 16:58Speaker 4: a share or a beef box and support your local ranchers.
- 17:02Speaker 4: That is the most important thing. And the biggest difference
- 17:06Speaker 4: between the beef initiative where we're a foundation, we're a nonprofit,
- 17:12Speaker 4: you know, versus these big beef box companies that might
- 17:17Speaker 4: say they're supporting local ranchers.
- 17:19Speaker 3: They have a bottom line to protect.
- 17:21Speaker 4: And oftentimes we're seeing these guys advertise that they're supporting local,
- 17:27Speaker 4: but in fact, they are getting their beef from other
- 17:32Speaker 4: countries and importing it in because it's less expensive and
- 17:35Speaker 4: then they can offer it at a lower rate to
- 17:37Speaker 4: their customers. Whereas all we're doing is we are selling
- 17:41Speaker 4: you on your local rancher. We're just trying to connect
- 17:46Speaker 4: people to their local ranchers and really facilitate that relationship
- 17:50Speaker 4: so that each and every individual has the opportunity to
- 17:54Speaker 4: take back their control, self-sovereignty, and chain of custody of
- 17:59Speaker 4: their own food supply.
- 18:01Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you, Brianna. Thank you for coming.
- 18:04Speaker 2: It's always great to hear from you.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Booker. You have a great evening,
- 18:07Speaker 3: and I appreciate your time.
- 18:08Speaker 2: More Truth Be Told with Booker Scott in minutes on
- 18:11Speaker 2: America Out Loud. All of us were told from a
- 18:14Speaker 2: very early age, you are what you eat. And if
- 18:18Speaker 2: that's the case, don't you want the best for you
- 18:20Speaker 2: and your family? Let me tell you where you can
- 18:22Speaker 2: go do that. You can go to beefinitiative.com. That's beefinitiative.com,
- 18:28Speaker 2: where they will connect you with a rancher somewhere in
- 18:31Speaker 2: your state. And it's more than just making sure you're
- 18:34Speaker 2: eating the right things and your family is. It's about America.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Let's be honest. It is. America's farmers and ranchers are
- 18:42Speaker 2: the backbone of this great nation, and now more than ever,
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- 19:48Speaker 2: I'm Booker Scott, and this is The Truth Be Told.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us here tonight and
- 19:54Speaker 2: every night as you do. If you're listening live, thank you.
- 19:56Speaker 2: If you found us on a podcast later, thank you
- 19:58Speaker 2: even more for going to that extra effort. You know,
- 20:01Speaker 2: as we have come through the last four or five years,
- 20:05Speaker 2: it really seems like Our speech has been oppressed, and
- 20:08Speaker 2: maybe that's even being nice. In some cases, I think
- 20:11Speaker 2: it was just shut down. I know that some of
- 20:15Speaker 2: us here in America, we were censored. We were shut
- 20:18Speaker 2: down by our own government. There has now been proof
- 20:22Speaker 2: of that. We saw that that has happened between the
- 20:25Speaker 2: Biden administration, social media, Google. They all tried to silence us,
- 20:30Speaker 2: our voices. And regardless of what the subject was, it
- 20:33Speaker 2: could have been where COVID came from, whether it came
- 20:36Speaker 2: from a Wuhan lab or a web market, or whether
- 20:39Speaker 2: masks were effective or the vaccine was safe and effective.
- 20:43Speaker 2: All of those things were shut down or attempted to.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Another part of that, though, also, and we have seen
- 20:50Speaker 2: this in other things, is how corporate world, regardless of
- 20:55Speaker 2: where you are, they have taken it on their own
- 20:57Speaker 2: to mandate things. We saw that with the vaccines. They
- 21:01Speaker 2: mandated shots. You had to get a shot or you
- 21:04Speaker 2: couldn't work here. We saw that. But there is also
- 21:07Speaker 2: a possibility that they are doing the same thing with speech.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Lisa Myron. She is a Canadian and she has written
- 21:14Speaker 2: a book. The book is called World on Mute, how
- 21:18Speaker 2: workplace speech committees are destroying our nations and eliminating our
- 21:23Speaker 2: civil liberties. Lisa, welcome to the program. Great to have you.
- 21:27Speaker 3: Hi, Booker.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Hi, everyone.
- 21:28Speaker 1: I'm so glad to to be with you tonight. That's wonderful.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm glad you're here, too. Let's talk a
- 21:34Speaker 2: little bit about your thesis. Let's start there. Why do
- 21:38Speaker 2: you feel this is happening, and what do you see?
- 21:41Speaker 2: And tell us a little bit about this book.
- 21:43Speaker 3: So I'm a lawyer.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Of 26 years, and I started to look at what
- 21:51Speaker 1: I will call speech committees, and every way to earn
- 21:55Speaker 1: a living is I'll say that trans-occupationally, every occupation is
- 22:00Speaker 1: being sewn up. And that's transnationally. That's globally. And I
- 22:06Speaker 1: started to see that then they would attract the speech committee.
- 22:11Speaker 1: And when you had a speech committee, you can think
- 22:14Speaker 1: of the Jordan Peterson case here in Canada because you
- 22:16Speaker 1: know him quite well. Right? And so I started to
- 22:21Speaker 1: track this around the world. These speech committees do something new.
- 22:26Speaker 1: And so I collected all these cases from all OECD
- 22:32Speaker 1: countries all around the world. And what I noticed is
- 22:35Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you have free speech. It doesn't
- 22:39Speaker 1: matter if you have a constitutional order. What they're doing
- 22:42Speaker 1: is really inverting our democracies or republic, if that's the case,
- 22:49Speaker 1: and giving you communism without ever saying, well, let's have
- 22:53Speaker 1: a referendum on whether we want this. communist identity. Because
- 22:59Speaker 1: once you have a situation where you have to agree
- 23:02Speaker 1: with your government in order to hold down a job,
- 23:06Speaker 1: I think that's communism. And so, you know, if you
- 23:11Speaker 1: have to agree with your government on certain speech dictates,
- 23:14Speaker 1: and I looked at all the things that would get
- 23:18Speaker 1: you in hot water with these speech committees, And I
- 23:22Speaker 1: said to myself, what are the chances that organically every
- 23:25Speaker 1: nation around the world is coming up and harnessing all
- 23:30Speaker 1: the people in a certain regulated area and all of
- 23:34Speaker 1: those regulated areas get the same type of speech censorship?
- 23:41Speaker 1: And the punishment, of course, is social and economic apartheid. So,
- 23:46Speaker 1: you know, you're... you're almost debanked. I'll give the example
- 23:51Speaker 1: of the Canadian truckers. If you donated to the trucker convoy,
- 23:55Speaker 1: the government took the funds right out of your account,
- 24:01Speaker 1: closed that account, and then that followed you and you
- 24:04Speaker 1: were stuck. You were out of society. And so these
- 24:08Speaker 1: speech committees, they take away your right to earn a living.
- 24:13Speaker 1: And if you're independent, If you're an independent farmer, if
- 24:17Speaker 1: you're a small business owner, if you have the ability,
- 24:20Speaker 1: you're a small landowner or you have independent wealth or
- 24:24Speaker 1: somehow you're an entrepreneur, you might not understand why the
- 24:29Speaker 1: rest of the world is silent. So I wrote the
- 24:32Speaker 1: book to explain this mechanism that's silencing all the regulated
- 24:37Speaker 1: professionals and occupation. And at the same time, I wanted
- 24:43Speaker 1: to show that.
- 24:46Speaker 1: The professions that were independent were being attacked by the
- 24:50Speaker 1: same government structure. So you have a total silencing that's
- 24:57Speaker 1: coming around the world. And I can give you examples.
- 25:01Speaker 1: In Switzerland, a guy, Alain Bonnet, called a fellow journalist
- 25:08Speaker 1: a fat lesbian. And for his trouble, he ended up
- 25:13Speaker 1: being charged and he faces 60 days in jail. You
- 25:20Speaker 1: have Sue Gray in New Zealand, and she had COVID
- 25:25Speaker 1: clients where she's challenging the government. She's a lawyer. You
- 25:29Speaker 1: should be able to do that. And she had a
- 25:32Speaker 1: run-in with her bar association. And again, this is a
- 25:38Speaker 1: way to censor speech. If you fear... you know, that
- 25:43Speaker 1: you won't be able to earn a living, you'll lose
- 25:44Speaker 1: your designation, you're going to be quiet. And we've all
- 25:48Speaker 1: seen that with DEI, etc.
- 25:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about this Workplace Speech Committee.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Is this something that is put together in corporations? Is
- 25:59Speaker 2: this coming from the Human Resource Department? What is this committee?
- 26:03Speaker 2: Who makes up the committees?
- 26:05Speaker 1: These committees are because you're regulated like maybe an accountant
- 26:10Speaker 1: or a lawyer or a doctor, but increasingly even an electrician.
- 26:16Speaker 1: These speech committees are with unions. What they do now,
- 26:22Speaker 1: if you thought, well, okay, I'm regulated. I just pay
- 26:25Speaker 1: these enormous fees for I have no idea what, and
- 26:28Speaker 1: I'll get these courses that I have to take once
- 26:30Speaker 1: a year. And I have to do my filings. And
- 26:33Speaker 1: that might have been the purpose before for regulating different areas.
- 26:38Speaker 1: But now they've added this speech committee, which is an authorization.
- 26:45Speaker 1: I call them truth stampers. And there's key areas. There's
- 26:51Speaker 1: terrible things that get said all over the place and
- 26:53Speaker 1: terrible things that get posted all over the Internet. But
- 26:56Speaker 1: they only care about a certain kind of speech. What
- 27:00Speaker 1: I found was if you were pro-nation state, you know,
- 27:04Speaker 1: you were a patriot, if you were anti, you know,
- 27:10Speaker 1: you wanted medical consent before you took a jab, right?
- 27:17Speaker 1: If you wanted, you could talk about the vaccine till
- 27:19Speaker 1: you blew in the face, but only one side of
- 27:22Speaker 1: the topic. You could talk about COVID till you blew
- 27:25Speaker 1: in the face, but only one side of the topic.
- 27:28Speaker 1: And then the same thing with You know, LGBT, you
- 27:31Speaker 1: could talk gay all day, but you can't go across
- 27:35Speaker 1: the transgender movement. You know, there's key areas. And so
- 27:39Speaker 1: what my thesis ended up showing was that the areas
- 27:45Speaker 1: that you couldn't speak were pillars of the globalist state.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it sounds like, yeah.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Yeah, the censorship is to a purpose.
- 27:54Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 27:55Speaker 2: So it does sound like, and it felt like it,
- 27:58Speaker 2: living through it, that everything that had to do with
- 28:01Speaker 2: the one world order, the world economic forum, as long
- 28:05Speaker 2: as you were on their side with your speech, then
- 28:08Speaker 2: you were safe and you were free to go with
- 28:10Speaker 2: what you wanted to say. If you challenged that in
- 28:13Speaker 2: any way, even with a question, then you were against them,
- 28:18Speaker 2: and you were silenced, you were censored, and that is
- 28:21Speaker 2: what your study to write this book has showed you.
- 28:25Speaker 1: Well, it's not just the censorship. It's the idea that
- 28:27Speaker 1: you lose the right to earn a living. Because that's
- 28:30Speaker 1: really different.
- 28:31Speaker 2: Well, and there's self-censorship as well, Lisa. You know, the self-censorship,
- 28:36Speaker 2: I think, we have all felt. I know that I did.
- 28:38Speaker 2: I would imagine that you did, too. So that also
- 28:41Speaker 2: is a part of it, isn't it?
- 28:43Speaker 1: It is a part of it. And so the book,
- 28:46Speaker 1: of course, covers four different areas. And the self-censorship is...
- 28:53Speaker 1: you know, evident in all four areas. The first is medical.
- 28:56Speaker 1: And of course, you know, all the doctors that lost
- 28:59Speaker 1: their licenses or in Canada, we had a lot. And
- 29:04Speaker 1: one of the examples is Dr. Hoff that I give.
- 29:09Speaker 1: And he, you know, in April of 2021, he says, well, look,
- 29:13Speaker 1: I've got, I'm very sorry to write this letter, but
- 29:16Speaker 1: I've got all of these patients who've had, you know,
- 29:20Speaker 1: several very sad side effects from the vaccine, some very tragic.
- 29:25Speaker 1: And he writes the chief medical officer of health, you know,
- 29:29Speaker 1: the Fauci in Canada of one of our provinces. In
- 29:33Speaker 1: 24 hours, she writes to her, you know, about the FOIs,
- 29:38Speaker 1: his lawyers about the FOIs, freedom of information. She writes
- 29:42Speaker 1: within 24 hours, let's report him to his college, right?
- 29:46Speaker 1: So for his trouble to let everybody know about the
- 29:51Speaker 1: side effects that he was observing directly in his practice,
- 29:55Speaker 1: he goes through lawfare. He gets reported to his college,
- 29:59Speaker 1: and they want his license. They want to pull his license.
- 30:02Speaker 1: So anyone who's a doctor watching this, they're not going
- 30:07Speaker 1: to want to speak up. And, of course, the media
- 30:10Speaker 1: takes them through. So they take the titans in all
- 30:14Speaker 1: of our professions, the ones who have confidence and who
- 30:17Speaker 1: can speak, and they dress them down publicly so everybody
- 30:22Speaker 1: else is silent.
- 30:23Speaker 2: We have some here on the network that are very
- 30:26Speaker 2: familiar with that. We have shows from Dr. Mary Talley Bowden.
- 30:30Speaker 2: We have Dr. Peter McCullough, who has shows here on
- 30:33Speaker 2: the network. We have Nurse Jody O'Malley, who's one of
- 30:36Speaker 2: the first whistleblowers that was a nurse during COVID. And
- 30:40Speaker 2: they all experienced that. They all came through that. Exactly
- 30:44Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mary Talley Bowden has her own chapter.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Really?
- 30:50Speaker 1: Okay.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Well, she's on Monday nights right here at 5 o'clock
- 30:54Speaker 2: Eastern time on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
- 30:57Speaker 1: Oh, that's wonderful. And I've been on with Dr. McCullough
- 31:00Speaker 1: as well. He's such a lion, a lion-hearted man. And
- 31:05Speaker 1: so at the end, I decided, well, let me scratch
- 31:09Speaker 1: the surface. What's behind medical? And what I found was
- 31:14Speaker 1: an organization called TED-US. T-E-H-D-A-S. And they have been mapping out,
- 31:23Speaker 1: along with the OECD, healthcare by AI. And the goal is,
- 31:31Speaker 1: and they set out the laws that you need in place,
- 31:34Speaker 1: the AI laws that you need in place, the goal
- 31:37Speaker 1: is to eliminate our current healthcare system in its entirety, right?
- 31:44Speaker 3: Right.
- 31:44Speaker 1: So this is what I found, and I found that
- 31:47Speaker 1: health care is defined as nine sectoral data spaces. So
- 31:54Speaker 1: you're not healthy. You just have a certain set of data,
- 31:56Speaker 1: and you're not sick. You have a different set of data.
- 32:00Speaker 1: You're not dead. That's another set of data, right? So
- 32:04Speaker 1: it's so dehumanizing where they're going, and I thought I
- 32:07Speaker 1: need to warn the world because the silent doctors, the
- 32:11Speaker 1: silent nurses, the silent medical professionals– who are afraid of
- 32:16Speaker 1: their regulatory body and their speech committees, they're afraid of
- 32:19Speaker 1: losing their license. Well, the objective behind this whole speech
- 32:24Speaker 1: committee is to keep them silent so there's no counterpoint.
- 32:29Speaker 1: And we head towards this AI healthcare. And what they
- 32:33Speaker 1: had was the idea of semantic, so all the same labels, interoperability,
- 32:40Speaker 1: They had technical interoperability, so all the computer programs around
- 32:45Speaker 1: the world would have the same operability. They had nomenclature, semantic.
- 32:51Speaker 1: They had legal. All the laws that need to be
- 32:55Speaker 1: in place in order to upload AI healthcare are in
- 33:01Speaker 1: that chapter. And that's, you know, when Musk, you know,
- 33:05Speaker 1: was talking about AI and we have to really see
- 33:09Speaker 1: that there is a real dehumanization, that we become merely
- 33:14Speaker 1: our data and we're going into a huge operating system.
- 33:18Speaker 1: And so I decided that we really need to warn
- 33:24Speaker 1: all the medical professionals while we still have strength in
- 33:28Speaker 1: the medical profession so that they can outlaw these speech
- 33:33Speaker 1: committees and these bodies because we're not discussing the most
- 33:38Speaker 1: important things in our society. I'd like to say that
- 33:42Speaker 1: we're going from a rights-based existence to an access-based existence,
- 33:47Speaker 1: and the mechanisms of how we're doing it are disclosed
- 33:51Speaker 1: in the book.
- 33:52Speaker 2: The name of the book is World on Mute, and
- 33:55Speaker 2: you are listening to Lisa Myron. She's talking about the
- 33:58Speaker 2: book and the things that she has found and The
- 34:01Speaker 2: arguments that she makes in the book, I tell you
- 34:04Speaker 2: to go to Amazon and find this book. It's $ 8
- 34:08Speaker 2: for the electronic version, $ 24 and $ 28 for the hardback.
- 34:16Speaker 2: I want to go back to something, and by the way,
- 34:18Speaker 2: I think the argument could be made that artificial intelligence
- 34:22Speaker 2: healthcare may have a better bedside manner than some of
- 34:25Speaker 2: the doctors that I've had. I'll just throw that out there.
- 34:28Speaker 2: Inverting democracy, you brought that up. Can you talk about
- 34:31Speaker 2: that a little bit? What does that mean to someone
- 34:33Speaker 2: listening to this right now?
- 34:35Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really important. When I go into the legal
- 34:37Speaker 1: and political sphere, Other speech committees right around the world
- 34:41Speaker 1: for your ABA, your Bar Association, your LSO, the Law
- 34:46Speaker 1: Society of Ontario, all across the world, the Bar Association,
- 34:50Speaker 1: are checking out certain kinds of lawyers. They're checking out
- 34:54Speaker 1: the pro-nation state lawyers. They're checking out the free speech lawyers.
- 34:59Speaker 1: And they're checking out the ones who'd have the balls
- 35:01Speaker 1: to bring the cases against any of the globalist mechanisms.
- 35:07Speaker 3: And so.
- 35:09Speaker 1: I want you to just envision that you have a constitution,
- 35:12Speaker 1: but if you can use a rogue power, this power
- 35:16Speaker 1: is not defined in our constitution or your constitution, this
- 35:19Speaker 1: rogue power, it sits aside. It's a, it's a political branch.
- 35:24Speaker 1: If anything, it's an administrative branch. And I say it's
- 35:27Speaker 1: a global beast. It's no longer belongs to any, any
- 35:32Speaker 1: one body. It's a global beast and they can check
- 35:35Speaker 1: out the lawyers by saying, well, that's, That speech you
- 35:39Speaker 1: can't have since you said it.
- 35:42Speaker 3: That's it.
- 35:43Speaker 1: No more lawyer. And then you wouldn't have checks on executive, administrative,
- 35:50Speaker 1: or pharma, or any of the other areas. And so
- 35:55Speaker 1: you could literally gerrymander all of society, and that's what
- 36:02Speaker 1: they're doing in every single profession. And I thought to myself, well,
- 36:07Speaker 1: what would be the worst example? Because when I started
- 36:10Speaker 1: thinking about these speech committees, how awful they were, I thought, well,
- 36:15Speaker 1: what would be the worst example? I thought, well, what
- 36:17Speaker 1: if you couldn't say something even in a pleading? Right?
- 36:20Speaker 1: The remedy is always, you know, the court says no.
- 36:24Speaker 1: And what I saw was lawyers disbarred. You know, you
- 36:29Speaker 1: could just look at the Trump cases. What could be
- 36:32Speaker 1: less of an insurrection than than to asking a court
- 36:37Speaker 1: to take a look at a fact pattern and put
- 36:41Speaker 1: the law there and hand it over very politely in
- 36:45Speaker 1: your high-heeled shoes or your great suit and make your
- 36:48Speaker 1: arguments and wait for the judge. The idea that you
- 36:51Speaker 1: disbarred Trump's lawyers really gave me the idea, well, geez,
- 36:55Speaker 1: that's pleading speech. And then the lawyers that I spoke
- 37:00Speaker 1: to who are bringing vaccine cases around the world What
- 37:04Speaker 1: I was seeing is that they're getting punished themselves. And
- 37:08Speaker 1: so then you have the... There are cases where people
- 37:11Speaker 1: can't even find lawyers because they're too afraid of their
- 37:15Speaker 1: professional body.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that. I believe that's probably the case,
- 37:20Speaker 2: no doubt about that. Attorney Lin Wood, do you remember him?
- 37:23Speaker 2: Do you know him? Are you familiar with his story? Yeah,
- 37:25Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, I mean, that was everything that you're
- 37:29Speaker 2: talking about on steroids. You know, the Bar Association of
- 37:32Speaker 2: Georgia really... They ended up basically taking his law license,
- 37:37Speaker 2: although he said he was retiring it. He was in
- 37:39Speaker 2: a huge fight there because he challenged the election of 2020.
- 37:43Speaker 2: And I think that's a great example of exactly what
- 37:46Speaker 2: you're talking about. Her name is Lisa Myron. The name
- 37:50Speaker 2: of the book is World on Mute. You can find
- 37:53Speaker 2: it at Amazon. And Lisa, I want to thank you
- 37:55Speaker 2: so much for doing this work. for getting it out there,
- 37:58Speaker 2: letting people consider it and have this perception. And I
- 38:02Speaker 2: also want to thank you for coming on the program tonight.
- 38:05Speaker 2: It has been a pleasure to talk to you.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. And you can
- 38:09Speaker 1: also find me at lawyerlisa.substack.com. And I would love all
- 38:14Speaker 1: your support. Thanks, everybody. Thanks, Booker.
- 38:18Speaker 2: There is only one truth. You've been listening to The
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