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The Thing · Cuff’s Basement

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Speaker 1: Stream, Uh we're back. Welcome back to cost Basement. I
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Speaker 1: am your co host Tim, I am with my coach Ryan.
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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and yeah, yeah, what.
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Speaker 3: Are we doing today, we're doing our favorite sounds.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Miam would be farts.
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Speaker 3: They're great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very funny. Uh. There's a great YouTube channel
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Speaker 1: that will recut a movie but with farts. I sent
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Speaker 1: Ryan a clip of The Dark Knight but with farts,
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Speaker 1: and I really liked one where Brucemane was asleep in
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Speaker 1: the meeting. Did you watch that? That was a good one.
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Speaker 3: They had one from The Dark Knight rises and it's when.
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Speaker 1: One. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, sorry, I'm thinking of that clip.
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Speaker 1: We are, So we were talking about the next thing
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Speaker 1: we should do, and I said, Ryan, I've always wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk about this movie for October because it might
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Speaker 1: be the best horror movie ever made. Yeah, but this
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Speaker 1: is such a great Like I was outside after one
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Speaker 1: of the after the recent snowstorm, and I was shoveling
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Speaker 1: and it was night and it was just so quiet
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Speaker 1: and it was just like creepy with like two foot
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Speaker 1: deep snow, and it immediately made me think of this movie.
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Speaker 1: This is the best, in my opinion, the best stuck
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Speaker 1: in snow movie ever. And also this I really think
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Speaker 1: for me, this is the best horror movie of all time.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what would be better, we would you
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Speaker 1: what do you think for me it would be better?
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Speaker 3: I mean, do you it's like also like do you
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Speaker 3: consider it, like I guess, like traditional horror, because like
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Speaker 3: it's so like it's such a mix of things that
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Speaker 3: it is not in my book.
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Speaker 1: And I know the plot is sci fi, it's not
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Speaker 1: really fi in my opinion.
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Speaker 3: It's it's more like of a I guess, like a
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Speaker 3: tone game. With this one. It's more like the feeling
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Speaker 3: of it is just so down down in dower. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean I can't like I think other ones you
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Speaker 3: trend into, like slasher territory or more like that.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, And I think I've told the story before
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Speaker 1: on the pod. But the first time I saw this,
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Speaker 1: my family had rented a Cape house and I was
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Speaker 1: like twelve or something like that, and I got grounded
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Speaker 1: on vacation for I think fighting with Bridget and my
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Speaker 1: family went to the beach and I just stay in
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Speaker 1: the Cape house alone. I discovered they had a VHS collection,
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Speaker 1: and I discovered they had this movie, and I watched
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Speaker 1: it and it was way better than going to the beach.
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Speaker 3: I think nine people would disagree with me about entirely.
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Speaker 1: I said, I have no respect for any anyone that
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Speaker 1: says when it's like if you what's your bucket list destination,
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Speaker 1: or like where would you go on vacation? If you
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Speaker 1: could go to anywhere money was not a question. People
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Speaker 1: who say the beach or anywhere tropical when you do
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Speaker 1: that like Icebreaker game at work, Yeah, they are trash
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Speaker 1: and I have no respect for them.
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Speaker 3: Well, mine's Kenny Blake Park. So I guess we own.
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Speaker 1: If this is a horror movie, let's just say for
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Speaker 1: the sake of the argument, it is what what would
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Speaker 1: be a horror movie you like more than this?
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Speaker 3: It's tough I this because this one's so good. I
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Speaker 3: almost put it like hereditary level, where it's just like
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Speaker 3: the whole time, you're just kind of.
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Speaker 1: Like, all right, when is what is is gonna?
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Speaker 3: Really like, not like in a bad way, You're kind
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Speaker 3: of like this already feels bad from the start, and
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Speaker 3: you're like, all right, when does this keep getting worse?
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Speaker 3: And this one has at least like this situational survival
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Speaker 3: part of it of like, and it has so much
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Speaker 3: other tension that it feels a little bit more like
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Speaker 3: you're getting out of it, but it still is it's
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Speaker 3: still a one. Let's let's take everybody out one by one,
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Speaker 3: but the thing taking them out is the interesting part.
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Speaker 1: Yes, So we have mentioned the title until no. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not a spoiler. I mean you can
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Speaker 1: read the title on the podcast. But it is the
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Speaker 1: thing which came out in nineteen eighty one, eighty two,
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Speaker 1: eighty two.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: It is directed by John Carpenter.
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Speaker 3: This is the first Carpenter movie you've ever done.
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Speaker 1: I was just going to say that it's a sin.
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Speaker 3: A crime is an absolute crime.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, John Carpenter directed Halloween, The Fog, the Thing. Can
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Speaker 1: I they live? Let's do this homography.
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Speaker 3: Because, as we talked about a little bit, because Rob
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Speaker 3: Reiner passed away this year, some people who just have
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Speaker 3: an absolute like killer decade of movies, like Rob Reiner's
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Speaker 3: like first ten movies are like this stand by me.
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Speaker 3: When Harry Mttsally's final tap, it's just insane.
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Speaker 1: A few good men, a few good men, and then
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Speaker 1: he didn't make good movies for the rest of his year.
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Speaker 1: It's just kind of like fall off a cliff.
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Speaker 3: So, like Carpenter is assault on Preseting thirteen, Halloween The Fog,
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Speaker 3: Escape from New York, The Thing, Christine Starman, Big Trouble,
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Speaker 3: Little China, Prince of Darkness, They Live. That's seventy five,
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Speaker 3: that's seventy six to eighty eight. Disgusting.
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Speaker 1: We need to do They Trouble a Little China with
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Speaker 1: Eric and No. Definitely need to do They Live. I
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Speaker 1: love They Live.
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Speaker 3: They Live. I just read a Martin Scorsese review of
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Speaker 3: They Live and he loved it. He was, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I was amazing because someone's like there was like they
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Speaker 3: just they put the article, put the review of like
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Speaker 3: this is what's someone word about they Live? And at
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Speaker 3: the end they were like they put the link to
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Speaker 3: it of where it was and it was Martin's word
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Speaker 3: on the New York Times.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, that's fuming, that's amazing. Professional wrestler.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Anyways, so this John Carpenter is a god. He's directing god,
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Speaker 1: he's the best ever do it. He's a horror god.
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Speaker 1: He's still alive him. He can't make movies anym Moregage
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Speaker 1: studios won't give him money.
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Speaker 3: He's touring because he's a composer. Took so he does
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Speaker 3: tour his music. I think also he's been pretty scorned
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Speaker 3: by movies so I think he's very much like he
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Speaker 3: does not want to do them anymore. Yes, very big gamer,
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Speaker 3: very big, a huge gamer.
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Speaker 1: That's awesome.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's old, old, but one of the best interviewers
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Speaker 3: interviews ever. He's so like he does not care, not
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Speaker 3: in a bad.
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Speaker 1: Way, but like he doesn't need to anymore.
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Speaker 3: He just is very transparent. When Mulaney had his show
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Speaker 3: last summer called Everybody's in La, he had John Carpenter
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Speaker 3: only because of Escape from La and and Milaniy says
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Speaker 3: it on the show and we're only talking about Escape
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Speaker 3: from La. We don't care about any of the other
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Speaker 3: classics he made. It was so funny but incredible run.
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Speaker 3: This is Carpenter's first movie where he was the hired
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Speaker 3: hand if you will, Yes, Yeah, which is very interesting.
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Speaker 1: Because they were kind of like and they gave him
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Speaker 1: a lot of leeway with budget and going over and
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Speaker 1: taking too long because he had made so much money
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Speaker 1: with Halloween and The Fog Too. Right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, both of them were incredibly successful.
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Speaker 1: It's also one of the first.
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Speaker 3: Movies for him where he did not like, like I mentioned, like,
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Speaker 3: he did not do the music, he did not co edit,
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Speaker 3: he did not co write, he was really brought on
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Speaker 3: to direct it. I'm sure he did stuff for that,
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Speaker 3: but like that was kind of not the usual thing.
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Speaker 3: This is also his first studio movie he ever made,
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Speaker 3: where like a studio, like an actual major studio was
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Speaker 3: making the movie. Okay, what a hell of a fucking
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Speaker 3: first three movie, Like Unreal.
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Speaker 1: This is based on a short story called Who Goes
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Speaker 1: There from nineteen thirty eight, and Who Goes There was
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Speaker 1: made into a movie in nineteen fifty one called The
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Speaker 1: Thing from Another World, But from my understanding, this is
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Speaker 1: way more based on the short story from thirty eight
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Speaker 1: and not The Thing from Another World from fifty one.
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Speaker 3: That's the impression. I. I've never seen the other one,
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Speaker 3: the older one.
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Speaker 1: Neither of I, neither of I. This was filmed in Alaska.
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Speaker 3: This is unreal.
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Speaker 1: It takes place in Antarctica and it was filmed the
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Speaker 1: exterior was all filmed in Alaska and the interior was
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Speaker 1: filmed in la And I was reading about how like
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Speaker 1: it was like one hundred degrees outside, but Carpenter wanted
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Speaker 1: the studio to be cold, so he they just brought
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Speaker 1: in like every air conditioner possible, and they said it
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Speaker 1: was like forty degrees in the studio and it's one
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Speaker 1: hundred degrees outside. Yeah, that's just great.
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Speaker 3: It's when you like, there's there's a couple of documentaries
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Speaker 3: think one is on YouTube now that was on the
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Speaker 3: original like DVDs, and Blue is about making the movie.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's like in the late nineties when
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Speaker 3: the documentaries made. But they just talk about all this
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Speaker 3: insane shit they did like to make this movie, like
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Speaker 3: all like point out the stops like that, and it
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Speaker 3: it just shows it just looks so good now, it
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Speaker 3: just looks amazing.
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Speaker 1: And they said that I read I was reading or
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Speaker 1: watching some video or reading something where they said that
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Speaker 1: there was a delay in filming for some reason and
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Speaker 1: because of that, Carpenter they were like on set and
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Speaker 1: Carpenter just had like a month to really think about
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Speaker 1: the movie and really just fine tune it. And there's
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Speaker 1: really no fat for a movie that feels slow in
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Speaker 1: a good way.
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Speaker 3: It does move really well.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's slow in a good way, intentionally slow in
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Speaker 1: a good way. And I really I don't know. This
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Speaker 1: movie for me is close to perfect. Honestly.
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Speaker 3: There's there's nothing wasted, and there's no even though again
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Speaker 3: we just talked about this earlier, like you're given morsels
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Speaker 3: who these characters are. No one feels like they don't
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Speaker 3: serve a point plot wise or group wise. Yes, and
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Speaker 3: how everyone reacts. There's no time to kind of like
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Speaker 3: why did he do that? Or like the horror thing
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Speaker 3: of like don't go in this door, Like there's none
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Speaker 3: of that. It's they do such a good job of
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Speaker 3: conveying all that.
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Speaker 1: Oh So, my least favorite part of the movie. The
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Speaker 1: only thing that doesn't work for me is the opening shot,
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Speaker 1: because I think that this movie really is not a
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Speaker 1: sci fi movie, even though there's a sci fi plot,
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Speaker 1: and the opening shot is a flying saucer crash on
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Speaker 1: the earth, and I hate it. I wish it wasn't
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Speaker 1: in the movie.
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Speaker 3: I haven't seen a long time, so I watched it today.
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Speaker 3: I was like, I completely forgot that because I always
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Speaker 3: thought like you only ever saw it through the video, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but you see yeah, And I was like, oh, no,
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Speaker 3: they opened this with this.
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Speaker 1: But then like everything about the movie would be better
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Speaker 1: if they remove that scene. So yeah, it's just everything
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Speaker 1: about that scene I hate and it should not be
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Speaker 1: in the movie. And the movie is very grounded and
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Speaker 1: it would just be so much better if you like
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Speaker 1: didn't know so there was an extraterrestrial element.
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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, just taking you out of the Antarctic
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Speaker 3: environment is just not worth it.
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Speaker 1: Pretend that ever happened. And there is a really cool
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Speaker 1: graphic of the name of the movie The Thing YEP.
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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe it. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: just starts to sort of appear.
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Speaker 3: Apparently it's a trash bag being burnt against a fish tank.
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Speaker 3: That's how they did the effect. No way, they just
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Speaker 3: made They designed it where would burn in the letters,
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Speaker 3: So they just did that.
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Speaker 1: That's how they made it. This is also known to
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Speaker 1: have maybe the greatest practical effects of.
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Speaker 3: All time, probably the best ever to do it right.
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Speaker 1: Who's the guy that did it?
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Speaker 3: The guy's name is Rob Beteen.
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Speaker 1: What else has he worked on?
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Speaker 3: So Rob Beteen? He's worked on Star Wars, Piranha, Rock
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Speaker 3: and Roll, High School, The Flog, The Howling, The Thing Explores, Legend, RoboCop,
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Speaker 3: Total Recall, Basic Instinct, seven Mission Impossible, Mimic Fear and
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Speaker 3: Loading in Las Vegas Fight Club. He retired in two
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Speaker 3: thousand and two and then came back to work on
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Speaker 3: Game of Thrones.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 3: He retired super young. There's a lot of mystery. People
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Speaker 3: should look himup because he was also a he when
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Speaker 3: DVDs were coming out and they were doing making up documentaries,
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Speaker 3: he was still working at the time, so he would
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Speaker 3: do interviews about the movies he made. He's a really
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Speaker 3: interesting interview on talking about like making these things. But
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Speaker 3: Tene also was very much considered like a one man show.
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Speaker 3: He would do a lot of the effects just by himself,
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Speaker 3: and he supposedly just like retired. He was like I
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Speaker 3: have like I destroyed myself, Like I just have no
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Speaker 3: Like they said on the Wikipedia for this movie that
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Speaker 3: he worked on this seven days straight for a year,
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Speaker 3: in five weeks, and he was hospitalized after they finished
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Speaker 3: the movie. Wow, but it shows this stuff looks fucking incredible.
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Speaker 1: This is Yeah, I can't think of a better because
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Speaker 1: this is obviously pre date CGI. Yes, there's no better
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Speaker 1: movie than yea, this is.
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Speaker 3: It's just so disturbingly gross, but also like you can't
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Speaker 3: look away from it. You need to see what all
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Speaker 3: the pieces are. It's just very gross.
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Speaker 1: And there's a very bad prequel for this movie. And
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Speaker 1: when famously, when they made the prequel, which was like
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Speaker 1: what twenty sixteen or something. I think it's like twenty eleven. Okay,
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Speaker 1: twenty eleven with Mew Mary Elizabeth Winstead. They filmed the
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Speaker 1: entire movie with practical effects, which was like very anti
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Speaker 1: what people were doing at the time, and all the
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Speaker 1: fans loved it because this movie the thing is practical
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Speaker 1: effects exactly. And then the studio, once the movie was done,
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Speaker 1: decided to just CEGI over all the practical effects.
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Speaker 3: And the more insulting thing is they used Tom Woodruff
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Speaker 3: and Aleck Gillis, who worked on Aliens, had done the
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Speaker 3: Alien movies after Stan Winston, big practical effects guys. They
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Speaker 3: do a lot of superhero movies after the fact, and
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Speaker 3: they use them. And then they both publicly when the
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Speaker 3: movie came out, like put videos on the internet being
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Speaker 3: like fuck, these companies were doing this to people, like
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Speaker 3: we did all this working all this time and you
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Speaker 3: fucking erased it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, awful. So it says at the bottom of
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Speaker 1: the screen at this point Antarctica winter nineteen eighty two,
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Speaker 1: and there is a husky dog and adorable husky dog
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Speaker 1: running through the snow. Yeah, and you see that there's
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Speaker 1: a helicopter following it with a sniper rifle shooting at
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Speaker 1: the dog yep. And this takes place at a US
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Speaker 1: science research station in the middle of Antarctica. How would
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Speaker 1: you describe like? Cause I think one of the things
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Speaker 1: that works so well is the appearance of the station
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Speaker 1: because like, it doesn't seem like a normal home.
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Speaker 3: It's all like, how would you describe it. It's like
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Speaker 3: a base camp. It's like kind of like and not
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Speaker 3: even super military looking. It's almost like you found like
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Speaker 3: an old bunker and you turned it into a living
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Speaker 3: research situation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all concrete and it's very Yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: very different than Yeah. There's also so there's like the
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Speaker 1: main building, which is all concrete. It's like a bunker.
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Speaker 1: But then there are individual shacks out in the snow off.
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Speaker 3: It's like Alaskan truck stop. I don't know how to
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Speaker 3: call it. It's weird.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and some people some people sleep and live
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Speaker 1: in the main building. Some people have these little outhouses
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Speaker 1: and they're all there's twelve guys in the movie that
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Speaker 1: are in this bunker. They're hanging out playing ping pong
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Speaker 1: and Kurt Russell plays McCready aka Mac. Kurt Russell is
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Speaker 1: playing a chess against the computer, very topical. The computer
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Speaker 1: beats him and he's drinking Jane b and back outside.
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Speaker 1: This helicopter we later find out is Norwegian, and they
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Speaker 1: they land their chain the dog and one of the
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Speaker 1: Norwegian guys has a grenade and he tries to use
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Speaker 1: the grenade against the dog but fumbles it and then
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Speaker 1: blows up the helicopter and kills himself and then the
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Speaker 1: other Norwegian guy. What happens at this point.
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Speaker 3: The other Norwegian guy we should say too, by the way,
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Speaker 3: when he's throwing the grenade, all of the guys who
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Speaker 3: work at this camp are outside. He's going to throw
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Speaker 3: the grenade at them where the dog.
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Speaker 1: Is insane, and they're like, what the fuck is going?
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Speaker 1: What the fuck is happening.
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Speaker 3: The other guy comes out and starts shooting at the
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Speaker 3: dog and shooting at them. He shoots I think.
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Speaker 1: It's Clark in the leg. He shoots Clark in the leg,
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Speaker 1: Clark in the leg.
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Speaker 3: And he then is shot.
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Speaker 1: No is it wait? Is it Clark or Norris that
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Speaker 1: he shoots in the leg. It doesn't really matter because
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Speaker 1: it's not a bad injury. But he's screaming something in Norwegian,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not going to translate it because you, the viewer,
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Speaker 1: don't get it translated, so you can look it up online.
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Speaker 1: What he's saying. And he screen me something in Norwegian.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he's George. Who's George?
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Speaker 3: His first name is.
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Speaker 1: George, George Norris, I think it's Norris, doesn't matter. And
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Speaker 1: then Gary, who has a gun, shoots the Norwegian guy
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Speaker 1: in the head and kills him. Bennings Bennings. Okay, so
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Speaker 1: just to you don't have to memorize this, but just
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Speaker 1: to give you an idea.
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Speaker 3: They're very hard name so they don't say them too often.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's twelve guys in this, in this entire movie,
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Speaker 1: and they all serve a purpose at this Antarctic outpost.
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Speaker 1: So McCready, Who's Kurt Russell as a helicopter pilot. There's Blair, biologists,
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Speaker 1: Gnoles as the cook. Palmer is a mechanic. He Child's
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Speaker 1: is the chief mechanic. Coop is a doctor, doc Doc
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Speaker 1: or Coop Copper sorry, Copper doc or Copper is the doctor.
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Speaker 1: Norris is a geologist. Bennings is a meteorologist. Clark handles
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Speaker 1: the dogs. Gary is the commander of the station who
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Speaker 1: carries a gun Fuchs is an assistant biologist, and finally
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Speaker 1: Windows is the radio operator.
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Speaker 3: Windows.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Windows, so you don't need to remember that, but
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Speaker 1: those are twelve guys and they all serve a purpose
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Speaker 1: in this bunker.
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Speaker 3: I like how the movie does this thing throughout where
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Speaker 3: it like fades in and out of scenes to kind
19:22
Speaker 3: of give you kind of like a reprieve, if you will.
19:25
Speaker 3: So I love before this fade, they just show McRee say, first, goddamn,
19:30
Speaker 3: we can win there. Yes, like yes, the random Norwegian
19:33
Speaker 3: group has come over and shot people. Yeah.
19:36
Speaker 1: So so Gary, who's the commander of the bunker, he
19:39
Speaker 1: just killed that guy. And they're like what the fuck.
19:43
Speaker 1: So they say to Windows, who's in charge of the radio,
19:45
Speaker 1: we've got to report this, you know radio in that
19:48
Speaker 1: there's an incident and we need help because it could
19:50
Speaker 1: be like an international incident. The murdered a Norwegian guy. Yeah,
19:53
Speaker 1: And Windows is saying that it's the beginning of winter
19:57
Speaker 1: in Tarctica. There's a terrible storm rolling in and I
20:00
Speaker 1: just cannot get anybody on there.
20:01
Speaker 3: So there's two weeks and no one has responded to him.
20:04
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Wilford Brimley, who plays Blair, he's talking to
20:09
Speaker 1: Windows Nalls is the cook who he's a roller skating
20:12
Speaker 1: around all played by T. K. Carter, who is from
20:15
Speaker 1: the Corner. Yes, yeah, he's in the corner. He's in
20:20
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff.
20:21
Speaker 3: He was.
20:22
Speaker 1: He recently died his mind.
20:23
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, he passed away in January.
20:25
Speaker 1: Yes, if you google it him, you will recognize him.
20:29
Speaker 1: He was in Punky Brewster Good Morn, Yes, good Morning,
20:34
Speaker 1: Miss Bliss. I remember him from that because that was
20:37
Speaker 1: Saved by the Bell. Changed his name to Save by
20:39
Speaker 1: the Bell, but it was originally called good Morning. That's right. Yes,
20:44
Speaker 1: he was in Space Jam apparently he's Domino really okay,
20:48
Speaker 1: but I remember him from the Corner mostly and Punky Brewster. Yeah, yeah,
20:55
Speaker 1: t K Carter, Okay, go ahead.
20:57
Speaker 3: I just was saying, in this moment when they're all talking,
20:59
Speaker 3: I saw a dirty Palmer was and it's like, why,
21:01
Speaker 3: like what was he doing? His face would just cover
21:03
Speaker 3: with dirt. It made no sense.
21:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Palmer is the he's kind of a
21:09
Speaker 1: he's the mechanic, but he's the sort of like the
21:13
Speaker 1: weird one, right, He's.
21:15
Speaker 3: Very like I means a lot. There's a couple of
21:17
Speaker 3: weird ones in here, but like he is the most
21:19
Speaker 3: vocally like for a while. Is No, it's kind of weird.
21:22
Speaker 3: He like shuts down in the middle, I think, which
21:24
Speaker 3: is intentional.
21:25
Speaker 1: Yes, But so the guys bring the dog in because
21:29
Speaker 1: they're like this, poor dog. I don't know what the
21:31
Speaker 1: hell is going on with these Norwegian guys. But the
21:33
Speaker 1: dog's just hanging out restling under the pool table and
21:37
Speaker 1: they're they're just like hanging around, not a time to do.
21:42
Speaker 1: They can't get the radio going, so they're just like whatever,
21:44
Speaker 1: and they leave the dog to wander about the bass.
21:48
Speaker 1: I love the really slow shots of the empty bass.
21:53
Speaker 3: It's such a good job of like showing you that
21:57
Speaker 3: there is nothing. Yeah, they're just like this is this
22:00
Speaker 3: is what you have.
22:01
Speaker 1: It's dead quiet in the middle of the night. Everybody's asleep,
22:04
Speaker 1: there's nothing there, and you just see the dog walking around.
22:08
Speaker 3: Or you just have those shots too, where like like
22:11
Speaker 3: when they're all outside, when they when the Norwegians are
22:15
Speaker 3: like shooting, they just show you the dog like inside
22:17
Speaker 3: one of the little huts, looking out the window and
22:19
Speaker 3: just staring. Yeah, and it's like it's amazing how they
22:22
Speaker 3: got the dog to act. I don't know how to
22:24
Speaker 3: describe it because the dog is not like a typical dock.
22:27
Speaker 3: The dogs even blink.
22:28
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jed is that what his name is? I
22:30
Speaker 1: think on the movie right, he has his own Wikipedia page.
22:32
Speaker 1: He's one of the most famous movie dogs. Ryan just
22:34
Speaker 1: said he he was in like White Fang. Wow, this
22:39
Speaker 1: was his first role. He's passed away unfortunately since this
22:43
Speaker 1: is filmed in nineteen eighty one. But yeah, he's great.
22:47
Speaker 1: He's phenomenal, And they decide the next day that Max,
22:53
Speaker 1: who's Kurt Russell, is a helicopter pilot, like, we have
22:55
Speaker 1: to go see what happened in the Norwegian base. We
22:57
Speaker 1: know where it is. Max like, it's kind of is
23:00
Speaker 1: storming out. I don't know if we should do that.
23:02
Speaker 1: But they end up going to the Norwegian base and
23:04
Speaker 1: the Norwegian base looks totally different than the American base.
23:06
Speaker 1: It's all made of wood and it completely burned down.
23:10
Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, we gotta like inspect this. Can
23:14
Speaker 1: They find a couple not really good signs, A couple
23:18
Speaker 1: of red flegs. One is a bloody axe in a door.
23:22
Speaker 1: One I loved is because it's so cold there. Yes,
23:25
Speaker 1: this a guy committed suicide.
23:27
Speaker 3: And then froze and the blood froze coming out of them.
23:30
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, it looks great.
23:32
Speaker 3: Again. As ghastly as this stuff is, it looks incredible.
23:37
Speaker 1: They find what looks like I would describe as an
23:40
Speaker 1: ice sarcophagus.
23:42
Speaker 3: Yes, it was almost like a yeah, agreed.
23:46
Speaker 1: They it's a giant block of ice that looks like
23:50
Speaker 1: the Norwegians were cutting into it. And they're like, so
23:55
Speaker 1: it's Doc and Mac and Doc says maybe they found
23:57
Speaker 1: a fossil, maybe they found a woolen mammoth.
24:00
Speaker 3: Don't show you inside, that's the interesting thing. They just
24:02
Speaker 3: show you the outside of that. Yeah.
24:04
Speaker 1: Well, so they're like, I don't who knows what they
24:07
Speaker 1: were doing? And uh huh. Then they find it's it's
24:12
Speaker 1: hard to see because it's storming and the building had
24:15
Speaker 1: just burned down, so there's smoke. There's this mangled pile
24:19
Speaker 1: of meat and bones, and they say, well, let's bring
24:24
Speaker 1: it back to the American bass.
24:27
Speaker 3: I should say, there is I have a lot of
24:29
Speaker 3: questions about touching this stuff. I'll put it that way, yes,
24:32
Speaker 3: but one of them lots to be like a burnt
24:34
Speaker 3: skeleton of someone crawling away, like someone's trying to get away, yes,
24:38
Speaker 3: and they're just like, what the hell happened here? And
24:42
Speaker 3: it's like, so again, I was shocked to do that too.
24:45
Speaker 3: One thing I wanted to point out, which I completely
24:48
Speaker 3: forgot about this movie before this scene happens, is in
24:52
Speaker 3: the montage of Like the Base at Night, is someone
24:55
Speaker 3: complains about about Gnols playing the music too loud and superstitious.
24:59
Speaker 3: My wonder, Yeah, and I just love. All they do
25:03
Speaker 3: is just you hear the song and then Nalls is like,
25:05
Speaker 3: fucking I'm leaving it on and they just keep slowly
25:08
Speaker 3: backing away from the kitchen, like just cutting back farther away.
25:12
Speaker 3: And all you do is you see the dog intentionally
25:15
Speaker 3: walk into one room and another and you just see
25:17
Speaker 3: a person shadow of a face. You don't see who
25:20
Speaker 3: it is, yes, and it just fades away, and you're like, okay, well.
25:23
Speaker 1: The dogs going to somebody's room and you have no
25:25
Speaker 1: idea whose room it is, you just see a shadow and.
25:27
Speaker 3: Just having that the way the song sound, I'm like,
25:29
Speaker 3: this is fucking phenomenal.
25:31
Speaker 1: It really is. So they go back to the American
25:34
Speaker 1: Base and when they land, the dog is watching them
25:37
Speaker 1: out the window. But dogs do that, that's not truly weird,
25:41
Speaker 1: very true. And the remains that they bring in the
25:44
Speaker 1: remains to get a better look in the lab Ryan
25:48
Speaker 1: how would you describe what the remains once it's under
25:50
Speaker 1: the light of day.
25:52
Speaker 3: So these guys are pretty tough people. They don't seem
25:56
Speaker 3: too alarmed by what they see, which is amazing.
25:58
Speaker 1: They're all silent, and I thought that's not how I
26:00
Speaker 1: would react. They're all silent as they're upset. Yeah, but
26:04
Speaker 1: my reaction would be, WHOA, what the fuck is this?
26:08
Speaker 3: And uh, Blair has to be the person who like
26:11
Speaker 3: does the autopsy and touch this thing because he's the biologist,
26:13
Speaker 3: and he does kind of like a very minor like,
26:16
Speaker 3: oh this this smells weird. That probably smells awful. Yeah,
26:20
Speaker 3: so it's a melted, mutated human, but not because as
26:27
Speaker 3: graphic and awful as this sounds, that it was a
26:30
Speaker 3: bunch of people burned together, as if they are the
26:33
Speaker 3: same body that contains multiple people.
26:36
Speaker 1: Like they share a tongue. From what they show, the
26:38
Speaker 1: tongue is connected.
26:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it has almost two The part that they
26:42
Speaker 3: make out and keep showing you is that it is
26:44
Speaker 3: two faces, like mid mutation.
26:47
Speaker 1: It's sort of like if one face was splitting in.
26:49
Speaker 3: Half exactly exactly, and it's very like a painting of it.
26:54
Speaker 3: And then they tell Blair to do an autopsy on
26:59
Speaker 3: it because it appears to be.
27:00
Speaker 1: Human, and Blairs like, this is all normal internal organs.
27:04
Speaker 1: Everything is just normal, yes, human body parts. And they're
27:08
Speaker 1: playing poker and someone says, hey, Clark, because Clark handles
27:12
Speaker 1: the dogs, put this new just this new husky is
27:15
Speaker 1: just loose. Put it with the other dogs. We have
27:16
Speaker 1: a kennel for a reason. And Clark's like, okay, So
27:20
Speaker 1: he he puts the new dog in the pen with
27:23
Speaker 1: the other dogs and the other dogs are just like asleep.
27:27
Speaker 1: But I don't know how they got jed the dog
27:29
Speaker 1: to do this, but he just seems off again. It's
27:32
Speaker 1: like the acting of the dog is so good, I
27:35
Speaker 1: don't understand. Amazing, just incredible training, I guess to say it.
27:39
Speaker 1: But he comes in and he sits down and he's
27:42
Speaker 1: not even blinking, like he's.
27:43
Speaker 3: Saying like, he's not like sniffing around, there's nothing. He's
27:45
Speaker 3: very calm, cool, collected all the time.
27:47
Speaker 1: Yes, and he's sort of looking at the other dogs.
27:50
Speaker 1: And as time goes by, because you know, dogs are smart,
27:53
Speaker 1: they can sense things. They have scent, you know, abilities
27:56
Speaker 1: to smell.
27:57
Speaker 3: We don't have.
27:58
Speaker 1: Eventually, the dogs that are asleep they kind of wake
28:00
Speaker 1: up and they're like, wait a minute, something's wrong here,
28:03
Speaker 1: something something is not good, and they start growling and
28:08
Speaker 1: barking at the new dog. And then the new dog.
28:12
Speaker 1: I just got like goose chills or goosebumps thinking of this.
28:15
Speaker 1: The new dog's head sort of peels open like a banana. Yeah,
28:20
Speaker 1: its face peels open like a banana, and you see
28:24
Speaker 1: like the skull underneath and.
28:25
Speaker 3: Like another new head kind of pokes out and barks
28:29
Speaker 3: or sings.
28:29
Speaker 1: And another thing I love about this movie are the
28:32
Speaker 1: sound effects. It's like a cicada. Yeah, you know the
28:36
Speaker 1: cicada sound in the summertime.
28:38
Speaker 3: That that kind of like rumbling. It's kind of weird
28:40
Speaker 3: and that weird.
28:41
Speaker 1: It's indescribable other than just like, go listen on YouTube
28:45
Speaker 1: what a cicada sounds like. And I wrote here the
28:48
Speaker 1: poor other dogs.
28:49
Speaker 3: That what was like crushing me is that poor dog
28:53
Speaker 3: who is biting the fence apart to get out. That's
28:56
Speaker 3: how they know how bad this is. It's insane.
29:00
Speaker 1: And Clark goes to see what's up, and he like
29:05
Speaker 1: screams for help. Is this when they pull the fire alarm?
29:08
Speaker 3: So he hears the screams, some accready cracks the.
29:10
Speaker 1: Fire alarm exactly yes, And then somebody says to childs
29:14
Speaker 1: Max asking for the flamethrower. He wants the flamethrower, and
29:16
Speaker 1: Child says he wants the what so either there's a
29:18
Speaker 1: couple questions I have about this bunker. I don't understand science.
29:23
Speaker 1: But they have multiple flamethrowers. Maybe that would be helpful
29:26
Speaker 1: in Antarctica. They have dynamite.
29:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what are they doing? I think I
29:31
Speaker 3: just don't know.
29:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just don't know. Yeah, so go ahead.
29:36
Speaker 3: And I think it's also amazing about this moment is that,
29:39
Speaker 3: like they do a very good job of not giving
29:45
Speaker 3: away the game in terms of like they're like like
29:49
Speaker 3: when Clark comes and sees it, you see, Like the
29:54
Speaker 3: thing I thought that was the grossest thing about this
29:56
Speaker 3: was always like those wiry long tentacles that like grab
29:59
Speaker 3: the things spray, Yeah, and you just see them like
30:02
Speaker 3: flailing in the shadows and you're like, what the fuck
30:04
Speaker 3: is this? Like they do such a good job of
30:07
Speaker 3: if the star of this movie is the monster. They
30:09
Speaker 3: do such a good job of only giving you bit
30:11
Speaker 3: by bit by bit. It's so good.
30:13
Speaker 1: Yeah. It has these really long, thin, redish pink tentacles
30:20
Speaker 1: and it spits this mysterious liquid at one of the
30:22
Speaker 1: dogs and then that dog's like skin starts melting. It's like, oh,
30:26
Speaker 1: it's disgusting, and they child's has the flamethrow on. He
30:33
Speaker 1: just absolutely torches it.
30:35
Speaker 3: Clark's line here, incredible. This had to be in the trailer.
30:38
Speaker 3: I hope it is. It's like, what the hell's going on?
30:41
Speaker 3: Don't know what's in there, but it's weird and pissed off, he.
30:44
Speaker 1: Says, because Clark opens the door and starts to go in.
30:47
Speaker 3: And the interesting thing what the movie does, like we
30:50
Speaker 3: just have a palmer, is the way they do certain characters,
30:53
Speaker 3: which a kind of comes into play later is Clark
30:55
Speaker 3: is always like the dog where he's just very monotone. Yeah,
30:59
Speaker 3: and I think plays them later a lot. Yeah.
31:02
Speaker 1: Yes, So Blair luckily gets to perform a second autopsy
31:08
Speaker 1: on this torched dog creature. Thing.
31:12
Speaker 3: Amazing moment when they after they burn it and everyone
31:15
Speaker 3: is standing and just staring at it and just being like,
31:18
Speaker 3: what the fuck is this? Like it's again another.
31:21
Speaker 1: Moment of is so Blair starts to realize. He says
31:25
Speaker 1: it out aloud. It absorbs the dogs and imitates them.
31:29
Speaker 1: So this thing had turned into a husky, which is
31:32
Speaker 1: why the Norwegian scientists are trying to kill it.
31:35
Speaker 3: It's very gross, but again it looks incredible. When Blair
31:39
Speaker 3: cuts into this, he pulls out a partially formed version
31:43
Speaker 3: of the dog. Yes, and that's where he picks up
31:44
Speaker 3: on like Tim said, yeah, you said reason.
31:47
Speaker 1: No, no, no no. That was another detail and you
31:49
Speaker 1: can google it or watch the video translated. But the
31:52
Speaker 1: Norwegian scientists were saying as they were trying to shoot
31:55
Speaker 1: the dog, they were screaming at the Americans, it's not
31:58
Speaker 1: a dog, it's it's pretending to be a dog. You idiots,
32:00
Speaker 1: don't go near it.
32:01
Speaker 3: Oh really?
32:02
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, wow, So you know Norwegian and the movie
32:04
Speaker 1: is ruined spoiler alert.
32:07
Speaker 3: So the there's just a one Norwegian guy in the
32:10
Speaker 3: theater in nineteen eighty two.
32:13
Speaker 1: He's kissed the fuck you get something? Leave? So Blair
32:17
Speaker 1: asked Clark, how long were you alone with the dog?
32:19
Speaker 1: Was the dog not in the kennel all night? Why
32:21
Speaker 1: is it not in the Kennel.
32:22
Speaker 3: I really this made me really like Blair a lot
32:25
Speaker 3: because I was like, he is picking up on what's
32:27
Speaker 3: going on here.
32:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Blair is a biologist and then Copper or
32:32
Speaker 1: Doc is the doctor. I thought it was so weird
32:35
Speaker 1: that Copper the doctor is like an old white man.
32:38
Speaker 1: He's in nineteen eighty two. He's dressed like an old
32:41
Speaker 1: white man would would dress in nineteen eighty two, but
32:44
Speaker 1: he has a nose ring.
32:45
Speaker 3: Bizarre, so weird, bizarre.
32:47
Speaker 1: I did not get that. Yeah, and Blair just starts
32:52
Speaker 1: to think, you know, it's imitating the dogs. So they
33:00
Speaker 1: they watch a tape.
33:03
Speaker 3: Yes, the tape they founded the Norwegian base.
33:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the tape show?
33:06
Speaker 3: So the tape show is the Norwegians recording their discovery
33:11
Speaker 3: of the ship under the ice and them scaffolding or
33:17
Speaker 3: scaling down to it.
33:19
Speaker 1: So they asked them, They're like, how you know the
33:22
Speaker 1: Norwegians use explosives to dig up under the ice and
33:25
Speaker 1: they pulled this thing out and then they said how
33:28
Speaker 1: deep in the ice of it was it? And one
33:31
Speaker 1: of them, maybe Blair, says, based on how deep in
33:33
Speaker 1: the ice it was, it's been there for one hundred
33:35
Speaker 1: thousand years.
33:36
Speaker 3: Yes, They go to the site, they find it.
33:38
Speaker 1: Okay, and Blair is explaining, like, I think it has
33:42
Speaker 1: the ability to it's an alien creature and it has
33:45
Speaker 1: ability to imitate things, and Child says, fuck this voodoo bullshit,
33:49
Speaker 1: This is all bullshit. And Blair starts to getting really
33:54
Speaker 1: concerned and he's working with They have this AI that
33:58
Speaker 1: was advanced at the time, and he's explaining to the
34:01
Speaker 1: AI what is going on, and the AI says the
34:05
Speaker 1: probability of one or more crew members are currently infected
34:08
Speaker 1: with the organism is seventy five percent. And then Blair says,
34:12
Speaker 1: what happens if this gets to the outside world, and
34:14
Speaker 1: the AI says, world would be consumed within twenty seven
34:17
Speaker 1: thousand hours. So I did the math there and that
34:20
Speaker 1: would be three years.
34:21
Speaker 3: Wow. Yep.
34:25
Speaker 1: So they put the the split weird human melty thing, yes,
34:34
Speaker 1: is in like a storage closet.
34:36
Speaker 3: Which doesn't it surprise you that they would not, you know,
34:39
Speaker 3: it sounds crazy. They would not believe Blair because you
34:42
Speaker 3: saw the dog one, but like the human one clearly
34:45
Speaker 3: was two creatures like mangled, Like, yeah, I don't get
34:48
Speaker 3: why they would be like so, like, I guess I
34:52
Speaker 3: would believe anything once I saw what happened and be okay,
34:55
Speaker 3: let's go with this theory.
34:56
Speaker 1: I think people are going to be in denial and
34:59
Speaker 1: justify in their heads that because this can't be true
35:02
Speaker 1: for so many reasons, like it can't be true because
35:06
Speaker 1: everything you know about life is just being flipped upside down.
35:10
Speaker 1: The world could be coming to an end if you're
35:12
Speaker 1: a religious person, like God does not exist, or if
35:15
Speaker 1: he does, whoa boy? Like what a fucked up?
35:19
Speaker 3: None of that in here, which is fascinating, what religion? None?
35:23
Speaker 3: Nothing really discussed about that here.
35:26
Speaker 1: But I think the people would be in denial of
35:27
Speaker 1: it for a lot, so they they Bennings is one
35:36
Speaker 1: of the people there. I can't remember what his role is.
35:39
Speaker 1: He's in the closet getting something. It's a storage closet
35:43
Speaker 1: and you see like the weird multi human thing is
35:47
Speaker 1: covered by a tart. He's Bennings is talking to somebody.
35:51
Speaker 1: You just see the tart move and you're.
35:53
Speaker 3: Just like, oh no, windows and you're like oh no.
35:57
Speaker 3: And then Bennings Fuchs asks McCready to go outside and
36:04
Speaker 3: talk alone, not with them, yes, And they go into
36:07
Speaker 3: the truck and you're hearing their conversation with the visuals
36:11
Speaker 3: of Windows and Bennings, and he says Blair told him
36:14
Speaker 3: that the tissue he tested isn't dead. The tissue can regenerate.
36:21
Speaker 3: And then we cut back to the blanket and you
36:24
Speaker 3: see the chunk of shit fall.
36:26
Speaker 1: Out of it, and you're like, oh fuck. So Windows
36:30
Speaker 1: comes into the storage room and Bennings has his clothes
36:34
Speaker 1: has been ripped off and he's wrapped in the tentacles.
36:38
Speaker 1: So he screams and he goes and gets McCready and Fuchs.
36:41
Speaker 1: But then when they go back in, the storage room
36:43
Speaker 1: is empty and everything's completely fine, and they see Bennings
36:47
Speaker 1: is running outside in the snow, even though seconds ago
36:50
Speaker 1: he was just being murdered by the thing. So this
36:54
Speaker 1: I absolutely love this. So they go out in the
36:58
Speaker 1: snow because Bennings is just running away in the snow.
37:01
Speaker 1: They go Bennings and he gets on his knees in
37:04
Speaker 1: the snow and then he turns and the he turns
37:08
Speaker 1: and opens his mouth as if to speak to them,
37:11
Speaker 1: and the noise he makes is indescribable.
37:14
Speaker 3: Also, I never picked up on this ever until his hands,
37:18
Speaker 3: his hands, his fingers are like a foot long now yes,
37:21
Speaker 3: and the scream he makes. And also this is the
37:24
Speaker 3: first time the score is very good, where like after
37:28
Speaker 3: he's like finishes screaming the the score just goes like wow,
37:33
Speaker 3: like this weird buzz And I was like, Oh, they're
37:35
Speaker 3: just telling you what this is over.
37:38
Speaker 1: Do you imitate the noise that he makes when he
37:40
Speaker 1: looks at them.
37:41
Speaker 3: It's it's you know, it's supposed to be.
37:43
Speaker 1: It's like almost like a sire.
37:44
Speaker 3: It's like it's like kind of like that as a
37:47
Speaker 3: consistent version of that. It's like very like but it's
37:50
Speaker 3: it gets so high pitch and his mouth his mouth
37:54
Speaker 3: is not moving, it's just open. Yes, And you're like,
37:56
Speaker 3: this is coming out of him. It's absolutely insane.
38:01
Speaker 1: So they, Oh, I want to say, I mentioned that
38:05
Speaker 1: you mentioned the score. Yeah, I read a trivia fact
38:08
Speaker 1: this one. This score won both an Oscar for Best
38:12
Speaker 1: Score and a Razzie for Worst Score because it won
38:15
Speaker 1: a Razzie for Words score for this movie, and then
38:18
Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino reused it in a later film and I
38:21
Speaker 1: want an Oscar so I.
38:23
Speaker 3: Love a scornography corner.
38:24
Speaker 1: We're bringing it back.
38:26
Speaker 3: So I mentioned earlier. Carpenter is very famous for doing
38:30
Speaker 3: his own scores Halloween, incredibly famous, Escape from New.
38:35
Speaker 1: York, et cetera.
38:36
Speaker 3: So this time he did not do the score, and
38:38
Speaker 3: he asked, this is anyone Morcone. He's probably one of
38:40
Speaker 3: the most prolific composers ever, and he brought him on.
38:45
Speaker 3: And Morconi is very famous for orchestral harmonica stuff like that.
38:52
Speaker 3: So there's a story about this on it's on YouTube's
38:54
Speaker 3: interviews with Carpenter talking about because this is like a
38:58
Speaker 3: score that's not his, it's are you famous of one
39:00
Speaker 3: of his movies? They're like, what's that like? Where like
39:03
Speaker 3: you have to let up the rains and that kind
39:05
Speaker 3: of thing. And he's like, we never met in person
39:08
Speaker 3: because he's based in Italy and he's in the carper's
39:11
Speaker 3: in the US. Like I called him the phone and
39:12
Speaker 3: I was like hey, Like he's like, what do you
39:15
Speaker 3: want this to be? And he's like, what do you
39:16
Speaker 3: want this to sound like? And he's like I sent
39:18
Speaker 3: him the movie and he was like okay, like like
39:22
Speaker 3: what okay, like what is this? And he explained it
39:25
Speaker 3: and he's like, he said Morcroni's train latter said, oh,
39:28
Speaker 3: you want me to make music the way your music
39:30
Speaker 3: is not like mine. And then Carpenter's like, oh, I
39:35
Speaker 3: think I am, like I'm telling him how to do
39:36
Speaker 3: his job. And he's like, so what he goes in
39:40
Speaker 3: Murcaronnie was I said, you're very good at this. Why
39:42
Speaker 3: are you having me do this?
39:43
Speaker 1: Like you can do it?
39:44
Speaker 3: Like why? Yeah? And then he's like he's like, well,
39:47
Speaker 3: I got married to year music and he goes, okay,
39:49
Speaker 3: I'll do it, and that's what happened.
39:51
Speaker 1: That's so funny.
39:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's like so he goes and then I
39:54
Speaker 3: think Carpenter still puts stuff into his own but like
39:57
Speaker 3: the droning sound and stuff like that is still more cony.
40:00
Speaker 3: And then he got used in the Yeah, that's awesome.
40:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there's also like a lot of score where
40:06
Speaker 1: he's just going.
40:09
Speaker 3: That's the Carpenter thing, like the Halloween has that.
40:11
Speaker 1: It's very it's very simple, but it works. It's the
40:14
Speaker 1: points simple, not in a bad way. So at this
40:16
Speaker 1: point they're all like, all right, we're in a lot
40:19
Speaker 1: of trouble. Bennings is dead. They torched Bennings, and Blair
40:24
Speaker 1: at this point fucking loses it.
40:26
Speaker 3: It sucks because you're like the Blair, You're like Okay,
40:29
Speaker 3: I'm with him, like I got he's right, Like you're like,
40:31
Speaker 3: he's right the whole time.
40:32
Speaker 1: But the MVP of the movie is Blair. Yes, yes,
40:35
Speaker 1: Blair takes an axe, destroys the tractor, the helicopter and
40:41
Speaker 1: killed all the dogs. And then he's he's destroying like
40:47
Speaker 1: the control room and all this ship, the radio equipment,
40:50
Speaker 1: all the radio equipment. He's trying to prevent this alien.
40:53
Speaker 1: He's like, we're all gonna die.
40:55
Speaker 3: I've chosen to sacrifice all of us.
40:56
Speaker 1: We're never leaving this base. If we leave this base,
40:59
Speaker 1: the world's over exactly, so it's too risky for us
41:03
Speaker 1: to be rescued. That you don't know this, but like
41:05
Speaker 1: you're assume, you know, you're putting it together. And they say, Blair,
41:12
Speaker 1: you know you're freaking out, but I understand you're concerned
41:14
Speaker 1: and you're losing it, but you don't want to kill us, Like,
41:17
Speaker 1: put down the axe, put down the gun because Blair
41:19
Speaker 1: is a gun. Yeah, and then Blair says like, no,
41:21
Speaker 1: I'll kill you and starts firing the gun. It's a child, yeah,
41:23
Speaker 1: literally shoot them. Yeah, yep, I really love that. And uh,
41:28
Speaker 1: they are able to overpower Blair. And they lock him
41:31
Speaker 1: into the tool.
41:32
Speaker 3: Shehit did this throw back to another great one we
41:36
Speaker 3: had one time. This reminded me so much of Deliverance
41:40
Speaker 3: when it's just Blair and recreating that room, because it's like,
41:43
Speaker 3: after that horrible thing happened, and ned Baby's like, hey, guys,
41:46
Speaker 3: like everything's fine, even what happened to him is like
41:48
Speaker 3: everything like he doesn't want to be real about it
41:50
Speaker 3: or it doesn't want to handle it, and you understand
41:52
Speaker 3: why he wants to disassociate. But it's amazing when McCready
41:55
Speaker 3: is like he mccreedy leaves him the smart off and
41:58
Speaker 3: then he's like, hey, he's like, you gotta be in
42:00
Speaker 3: here alone, just be here with your thoughts or whatever,
42:02
Speaker 3: or just you know, be with God or that's what
42:04
Speaker 3: choice is.
42:05
Speaker 1: The religious moments, they lock him in, they barricade him in.
42:08
Speaker 3: They barricade him in, and he just says, he's like,
42:10
Speaker 3: I don't know who to trust, that's why. And he
42:13
Speaker 3: goes and he just says, watch Clark.
42:15
Speaker 1: Watch Clark, because he was alone with the dogs. So
42:20
Speaker 1: they say, let's just, you know, let's just make it
42:26
Speaker 1: through the winter. Let's all just haul up here and
42:27
Speaker 1: try to be safe until spring, and McCready says, no,
42:31
Speaker 1: at least one of us is that thing right now.
42:33
Speaker 1: By spring, it'll be all of us. And Doc says,
42:36
Speaker 1: I have an idea for a sort of a blood
42:38
Speaker 1: serum test. So they go, oh, well, we all had
42:41
Speaker 1: given blood to be refrigerated in case any of us
42:45
Speaker 1: had a medical emergency and we needed blood. We all
42:47
Speaker 1: have our own blood. So they go to this like locker,
42:51
Speaker 1: and the locker had been opened and all the blood
42:53
Speaker 1: was destroyed. They note that Gary, the commander, has the
42:57
Speaker 1: only key, and the other person uses the key asked
43:01
Speaker 1: for it from Gary, is Doc. And then and they're like, well,
43:04
Speaker 1: it has to be Gary, because it's not going to
43:06
Speaker 1: be Doc, as Doc suggested this plan. And at this
43:11
Speaker 1: point they're all just suspecting one another, and you, the viewer,
43:15
Speaker 1: you like, kind of are making hard assumptions. You think
43:18
Speaker 1: it's definitely Clark. We don't know. And the whole point
43:20
Speaker 1: of this movie is the whole time you the viewer,
43:23
Speaker 1: have no idea, and.
43:25
Speaker 3: It also introduces the idea that the person because you
43:29
Speaker 3: don't see, like with the example of Bennings, when Bennings
43:34
Speaker 3: runs outside and they kill him, especially watching it this
43:39
Speaker 3: time Bennings is Bennings running away because he's going because
43:42
Speaker 3: he's running away from people, He's not running towards whatever. Yes,
43:46
Speaker 3: So is it the thing where like Bennings is still
43:48
Speaker 3: conscious of what's happened to him and he's trying to
43:50
Speaker 3: get away, or like he doesn't defend himself when they
43:54
Speaker 3: surround him. He just is on his knees and stands there.
43:57
Speaker 3: So it's this thing? Is it? Kind of interests got
43:59
Speaker 3: you that they maybe don't even know that they are
44:02
Speaker 3: the thing. It's like the best way to hide is
44:04
Speaker 3: for you to not know it. But the whole the
44:06
Speaker 3: Brynceman movie is they don't say this, It's all just there.
44:09
Speaker 3: It's how you feel, which is amazing.
44:11
Speaker 1: Yes, So I also I wanted to keep it tally
44:13
Speaker 1: of how many guys are left. Yeah, so there were twelve.
44:16
Speaker 1: Bennings is dead. They are now eleven. When they're arguing
44:19
Speaker 1: about how they suspect, Gary Windows goes to they have
44:23
Speaker 1: a gun locker. Windows pulls up a shotgun.
44:26
Speaker 3: Again science office. We have a rack of shotguns ready
44:30
Speaker 3: to go.
44:30
Speaker 1: Yes, and Gary pulls he has like a six shooter
44:34
Speaker 1: pistol on him. He pulls the gun on him, and
44:37
Speaker 1: Gary says, all right, you don't trust me, someone else
44:39
Speaker 1: can have the gun. Norris, everybody trusts you. Do you
44:43
Speaker 1: want the gun? And Norris goes, no, I can't do this. Yeah,
44:48
Speaker 1: I don't want this responsibility. I pass And then Child
44:50
Speaker 1: says I'll take the gun. They all go hell no, yes.
44:54
Speaker 3: Also, the funny thing is like they all like are
44:56
Speaker 3: questioning Childs, and I'm like, shouldn't they question McCreadie more
45:00
Speaker 3: like he has been the only one who's been like
45:01
Speaker 3: acting somewhat erratically, because like when they're like, get the
45:05
Speaker 3: flame through our Child's like what you know what I mean,
45:08
Speaker 3: Like maybe in the past he has been crazy.
45:09
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think not to be not
45:11
Speaker 1: to make this like a political thing, but I think
45:13
Speaker 1: it's nineteen eighty two. There are two black guys, Childs
45:18
Speaker 1: and Knolls. Knowles is the jovial cook. Yes, Child's is
45:23
Speaker 1: like the chief mechanic who's not jovial, who's like, do
45:27
Speaker 1: not fuck with me. So they're like, we're not gonna
45:29
Speaker 1: give the only gun to the non jovial do not
45:33
Speaker 1: fuck with me black guy that we're afraid of.
45:35
Speaker 3: Makes sense?
45:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also I think that like, because again don't
45:39
Speaker 1: want to make like racist cultural observations, but I just
45:43
Speaker 1: feel like there's there's so many jokes in this like deal.
45:46
Speaker 1: Hughley has a famous line where he's like white people
45:48
Speaker 1: get out of cars and take pictures of bears, and
45:51
Speaker 1: the bear's like, motherfucker, I'm a bear. It's like black
45:53
Speaker 1: people would never get out of a car and take
45:55
Speaker 1: a picture of a bear. I think Child's just very
45:57
Speaker 1: like risk averse and like, I'm not gonna play with
46:00
Speaker 1: this bullshit. Fuck all of you guys like you give
46:02
Speaker 1: me the gun and they're like no, no, no, child,
46:04
Speaker 1: we don't trust you with the gun. So mcgreedy, Kurt
46:07
Speaker 1: Russell gets the gun. Mac has a great point. He says,
46:13
Speaker 1: if all of you things were things, you would just
46:16
Speaker 1: kill me. So obviously some of you are human. Doc
46:19
Speaker 1: and Gary you had access to the blood. Clark you
46:23
Speaker 1: were with the dogs. You three, we don't trust it all.
46:25
Speaker 1: We're gonna tie you up and shoot you with morphine.
46:28
Speaker 3: Yeah. He just the way he just rattles that off
46:32
Speaker 3: is just amazing, Like I just don't trust you three guys.
46:34
Speaker 3: We're gonna do this, Yep, yeah, yep, McCready says that
46:39
Speaker 3: the storm is coming in six hours. This thing is
46:43
Speaker 3: gonna come out because it's not gonna able to survive
46:46
Speaker 3: in the storm.
46:47
Speaker 1: Yes, so Fuchs, I don't remember. Fuchs is going outside
46:53
Speaker 1: at one point and he sees mcgreedy's torn uniform and
46:59
Speaker 1: there's a They make a mention of we think the
47:02
Speaker 1: thing like rips your clothes off when it's trying to
47:06
Speaker 1: absorb you.
47:07
Speaker 3: Yes, we truly never see fully how it copies you.
47:11
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, like, so Fuchs goes outside
47:16
Speaker 1: because oh, Fuchs goes aside because he thinks he saw someone.
47:20
Speaker 3: He says to McCready, Hey, here's how we need to
47:24
Speaker 3: live from now on. Everyone does the wrong thing, makes
47:27
Speaker 3: the wrong food.
47:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, no sharing food.
47:29
Speaker 3: We don't do anything, just so we cannot contract anything.
47:32
Speaker 3: And then someone like runs by his rum and he
47:34
Speaker 3: doesn't know what it is, and he runs outside to
47:38
Speaker 3: see what it was and he finds McCready's rip.
47:42
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, they realize that Fuchs is
47:45
Speaker 1: missing the rest of the guys and they're like, we
47:47
Speaker 1: need to look for him. So Mac goes to Blair.
47:50
Speaker 1: Shit and this is one of my favorite So he
47:53
Speaker 1: so there's like a you know, like a speakeasy where
47:57
Speaker 1: they have just like the eye slot, sort of an
48:00
Speaker 1: eye slot because the door is barricaded, So he opens
48:03
Speaker 1: the eye slought MacCready and he owns the eyes loot
48:06
Speaker 1: because they imprisoned Blair in the shack. And he goes Blair,
48:09
Speaker 1: have you seen Fuchs? And the first thing you notice
48:11
Speaker 1: is that there's a noos hanging from the ceiling. Blair
48:14
Speaker 1: is just prepared for all. For all comes MVP. The
48:17
Speaker 1: smartest thing you do in the scenario is killed yourself.
48:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he doesn't.
48:20
Speaker 1: This is where things don't work out well for Blair unfortunately. Well,
48:25
Speaker 1: the question is so Blair, He's like, you've seen Fuchs
48:29
Speaker 1: and Blair's like, no, i haven't seen Fuchs, but I
48:33
Speaker 1: thought about everything. I'm better now. You can bring me
48:36
Speaker 1: back inside. I'm not gonna hurt anyone. You can definitely
48:39
Speaker 1: bring me back inside. And Max like, yeah, no things, You've.
48:43
Speaker 3: Got my promise. Unless like you're saying all the worst things. Yeah,
48:46
Speaker 3: you're just saying all the things they don't want to hear.
48:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the wrong Even if.
48:49
Speaker 3: He's right, it's still the things you don't want to hear.
48:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, and they discover while they're looking around, they
48:55
Speaker 1: discover Fuchs, who explain how they find him just burnt.
49:01
Speaker 1: They find his glasses and it is a charred corpse.
49:05
Speaker 1: They just don't know what happened. They assume again the
49:09
Speaker 1: movie's kind of playing off the paranoia. Was he burnt
49:12
Speaker 1: by someone? Or did he burn himself because he knew
49:15
Speaker 1: he was turning? Or did he just kill himself because
49:17
Speaker 1: he thought?
49:17
Speaker 3: This is hopeless?
49:18
Speaker 1: And I like that they don't. They don't need to
49:20
Speaker 1: explain it. They don't and they don't.
49:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, they never do. They do less and less explaining
49:24
Speaker 3: as they go through.
49:25
Speaker 1: Correct, now there are ten guys left. Fuchs is dead.
49:28
Speaker 1: This line I absolutely love. Macus says to Nell's all right,
49:32
Speaker 1: let's go uh, let's go over here, and All says,
49:34
Speaker 1: where are we going? He says, my shack? What the
49:37
Speaker 1: hell for? Why are we going to your shack? Because
49:39
Speaker 1: when I left yesterday the lights were off and it
49:41
Speaker 1: just cuts to his shack on the distance and the
49:43
Speaker 1: snow and the lights are on. You're just like, no.
49:47
Speaker 1: And this is so genius the way they handle this,
49:49
Speaker 1: because there's so many times where you're with some of
49:52
Speaker 1: the guys when the other guys are doing something else,
49:55
Speaker 1: and they never explain what the other guys are doing,
49:57
Speaker 1: and they never show.
49:58
Speaker 3: It, and they never show it, and also like again,
50:00
Speaker 3: it's just always piling all the suspicion of everybody else.
50:04
Speaker 1: And the Nalls comes back, covered in snow, banging on
50:09
Speaker 1: the door. They let nalls in and he says a
50:12
Speaker 1: dish McCready and they're like, what you dish, McCready? I
50:14
Speaker 1: found his torn up clothes. Fuchs must have been onto
50:17
Speaker 1: him and like McCready's McCready's that thing. So they're like,
50:21
Speaker 1: oh shit, righte. And McCready has a fantastic re entry
50:28
Speaker 1: to the bunker, So explain how he comes back.
50:30
Speaker 3: He comes in through like a window over room.
50:33
Speaker 1: Yes, you hear the glass shatter, and they go, oh shit,
50:35
Speaker 1: he's trying to break in and they think he's an alien.
50:37
Speaker 3: Yes, they think he's an alien. They open the door
50:39
Speaker 3: to that room. McCready has a flare and as fucking
50:44
Speaker 3: six sticks of dynamite. He's holding it pretty close for
50:47
Speaker 3: a guy being threatening, yes, And I was like, ah, man,
50:50
Speaker 3: Like he drops that thing and this is over and
50:52
Speaker 3: he's like, you guys, shoot me. You guys light me
50:55
Speaker 3: on fire. This whole place goes up, and he's like,
50:57
Speaker 3: back the fuck away.
50:59
Speaker 1: And Norris, who's like the really quiet guy that everybody trusts,
51:03
Speaker 1: who has offered the gun and says no. They all
51:06
Speaker 1: kind of try to rush Mac and Max like turns
51:10
Speaker 1: and shoves him off, and then Norris tussles with him,
51:15
Speaker 1: and then it seems like he has a hot heart
51:16
Speaker 1: attack and collapses to the floor. So they're like, oh shit,
51:20
Speaker 1: Norris had a heart attack or something, some sort of
51:22
Speaker 1: medical cardiac event. We have to get Doc. So they
51:25
Speaker 1: go untied doc. Doc is not high off the morphine anymore.
51:29
Speaker 1: He seems fine, and they're like, we can't risk it.
51:32
Speaker 1: We need you to help Norris. I want This is
51:36
Speaker 1: the thing I remembered the most vividly from my first
51:40
Speaker 1: watch when I was in our cape house. Explain what
51:43
Speaker 1: happens here.
51:44
Speaker 3: So they're using a what do they call them defribrillatorfribulator
51:49
Speaker 3: to resuscitate Norris. They keep cutting back between the confrontation
51:55
Speaker 3: with Macreem and everybody and then trying to resuscitate Norris,
51:58
Speaker 3: and they just keep going back with the two three
52:00
Speaker 3: in the jumps from the clear on the third clear,
52:03
Speaker 3: Norris's entire chest opens like a giant mouth bites Copper's
52:08
Speaker 3: arms off. Yes, Copper falls over is horrifying. Then Norris's
52:14
Speaker 3: thing copy comes out of the hole like ahead and
52:17
Speaker 3: like connects itself to the roof. And then while this
52:21
Speaker 3: is happening, the rest of Norris's body just starts like
52:24
Speaker 3: freaking out and separating. And his head. I thought this
52:27
Speaker 3: was the most incredible effect ever. His head rips off.
52:32
Speaker 3: This is all for real. Head rips off his body
52:35
Speaker 3: and it's all like green inside. And then his head
52:38
Speaker 3: just slowly comes over the edge of the table and
52:42
Speaker 3: then lands from the ground and then just like slowly
52:46
Speaker 3: crawls away.
52:47
Speaker 1: Like using its cheek muscle, and it's just so it looks.
52:50
Speaker 3: So again, it's so horrible to put it this way.
52:53
Speaker 3: It looks so good, it's so effective that it's just
52:57
Speaker 3: so uncomfortable to watch. And then you while this is happening, Oh,
53:01
Speaker 3: they're all fighting. They don't see this happening, and I'm like,
53:03
Speaker 3: oh fuck, this is so not good. So then the
53:08
Speaker 3: head rolls over and hides under a desk because it's
53:14
Speaker 3: become sentient and realizes, oh, this is all that's.
53:18
Speaker 1: Left of me. Yeah, they're gonna burn the body.
53:20
Speaker 3: They're gonna burn the body, which they fire out essentially,
53:23
Speaker 3: so it just grows six spider legs out of the
53:26
Speaker 3: side of it and then two eyes from the neck
53:29
Speaker 3: of Norris. Yeah, and it then just starts like, Okay,
53:33
Speaker 3: I'm on my way, so just crawls out.
53:36
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite lines in the movie is
53:38
Speaker 1: so they just they just kill They just torch Norris.
53:41
Speaker 1: First of all, just imagine that if you haven't seen this,
53:44
Speaker 1: they're going one, two, three clear, doing chest compressions over
53:47
Speaker 1: and over again, and then they say one to three
53:49
Speaker 1: clear and Doc goes into his stomach fully and then
53:54
Speaker 1: gets both arms bitten off by his stomach. It's horrifying.
53:58
Speaker 1: So they kill they burn body. So Norris is dad.
54:01
Speaker 1: There's nine people left, and then and Doc is dead
54:04
Speaker 1: because he just got his arms bit off. So there
54:05
Speaker 1: are eight people left. They don't notice the spider head.
54:10
Speaker 1: The spider head is the most amazing effect, incredible, incredible,
54:13
Speaker 1: the spider head. So they're all arguing and there's no sound,
54:16
Speaker 1: which is amazing. It doesn't make a sound. It just
54:18
Speaker 1: starts skittering away behind them. Yes, and it's skittering out
54:21
Speaker 1: the doorway, and Palmer turns and goes, you gotta be
54:24
Speaker 1: fucking kidding me.
54:27
Speaker 3: He does, It's so perfect. It's just so perfect. And
54:30
Speaker 3: then Matters burn it.
54:31
Speaker 1: They burn the spider head. Max says, I'm tying everyone up.
54:35
Speaker 1: Child says, do not tying me up. He says, I'll
54:38
Speaker 1: kill you, Chiles, and then Childs looks him dead in
54:40
Speaker 1: the eyes and goes, then kill me.
54:43
Speaker 3: I love Childs.
54:44
Speaker 1: This is a great flamethrower movie, very big, very big
54:48
Speaker 1: flame thrower aliens and I.
54:52
Speaker 3: Shud I think the other ones. There's another eighties one
54:55
Speaker 3: that has a flame thrower aspect to it, but yeah,
54:58
Speaker 3: very big.
54:59
Speaker 1: I think we have to we have to end this
55:01
Speaker 1: is I keep saying this is the best part of
55:03
Speaker 1: the movie, but this next scene is like probably the
55:05
Speaker 1: most famous part of it. Yeah, probably the best part
55:07
Speaker 1: of the movie. So we're gonna end part one, Yeah,
55:10
Speaker 1: and bring this to a part two. There are eight
55:12
Speaker 1: men left, and we'll see how they do. Yeah, we'll
55:16
Speaker 1: see how they do. But Ryan said, I was texting him,
55:21
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I just watched the scene.
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Speaker 3: It was horrifying.
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Speaker 1: And Ryan said, I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna watch it tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: hoping for a happier ending.
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Speaker 3: Of this sent That should be truly a concern if,
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Speaker 3: like you're thinking, yes, delusion.
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Speaker 1: It was a little bit different though, Really, what did
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Speaker 1: you see?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Catch you on the flip