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Mac & Bone Show - Kenton Gibbs Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Our next guest here, we're going to talk ACC football.
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  Speaker 1: He's the co host of Locked on ACC, also co
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  Speaker 1: host Locked on wolf Pack. He's a former wolf packer himself.
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  Speaker 1: He is Kenton Gibbs, who joins us to talk some
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  Speaker 1: ACC football. Kenton, how you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Hey? I'm great as always. I'm not a formal wolf packer.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a formal wolf pack playla till I'm that not
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  Speaker 2: shame on me.
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  Speaker 1: Once a wolf packer, always a wolf packer, especially one
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  Speaker 1: like you. Man, all right, all right, let's start. I
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  Speaker 1: do want to get to the end his place immediately.
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  Speaker 1: He just Oklahoma dre. If that was an Oklahoma drill,
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  Speaker 1: he would have pancake me. Oh Man, all right, Kenton,
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  Speaker 1: let's we're gonna get to the wolf Pack. But let's
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  Speaker 1: start with a team we've been talking about today, Miami.
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that we have people here in ACC country
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  Speaker 1: that are still skeptical of of Miami because I think
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  Speaker 1: they could potentially win it all and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: they're finally going to break through in the ACC. Like,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like all the hype is real? You
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to justify? And how do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about this Kne's team.
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  Speaker 2: This has to be the year that they break through.
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  Speaker 2: This is not just a possible year that they break through.
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  Speaker 2: They are so much better than the field on paper
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  Speaker 2: that if they can't get it done right now, what
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  Speaker 2: if people Bryce said back in the day, if they
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  Speaker 2: don't love you by now, you ain't never gonna be
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  Speaker 2: loved if you can't get an ACC championship right now,
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  Speaker 2: when you've got a down Florida State, when you've got
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  Speaker 2: a down Clemson, when your biggest challenges are SMU and Louisville.
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  Speaker 2: With all due respect to those teams, both of those
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  Speaker 2: teams have done a fantastic job over these past couple
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  Speaker 2: of years. Bron coming back to his alma mater, the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the native son returns home, brings his brother
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  Speaker 2: with him, and does a great job of development quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: getting guys out of the portal. SMU, Kevin Jennings, potential, Heisman,
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  Speaker 2: got all that good stuff. PJ. Williams, one of the
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  Speaker 2: best offensive linemen in America. They've done a great job.
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  Speaker 2: But there is a gap. There is Miami, and then
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  Speaker 2: there's a gap, and then there's the field. So if
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  Speaker 2: you can't get it done. Now, A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: accuse Mario Christaball of being born on third base because
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  Speaker 2: he got fired at FIU. And then the next head
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  Speaker 2: coaching job is at Organ. And who can't have success
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  Speaker 2: at Organ? You me, your mother, granny, who just got
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  Speaker 2: out the hospital, my last segment coaching that Organ. He
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  Speaker 2: goes from that job now to Miami, where you're always
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  Speaker 2: gonna have the top talent. And so you know, you
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  Speaker 2: see a situation where the field, the gap between them
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  Speaker 2: and the field is so massive. And mind you, they're
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  Speaker 2: the ones who created the gap. They took the ACC
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  Speaker 2: champions last quarterback and wide receiver one and Cooper Bark
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  Speaker 2: Darriu Mensa on the last day, last minute of the portal.
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  Speaker 2: So realistically, if Miami can't get it done this year,
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  Speaker 2: they'll never get it done. And I'm very comfortable saying
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  Speaker 2: that CA.
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  Speaker 3: And then the next group behind Miami, that group of
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  Speaker 3: Clemson SMU that you mentioned Louisville. Who do you think
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  Speaker 3: he ends up being the second best team in that tear?
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  Speaker 2: So listen, I know that y'all are in Charlotte, y'all
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  Speaker 2: are very close to South Carolina. So for safety reasons,
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  Speaker 2: you got to put Clemson in that tier. They're not there. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you can't sell me Chris Vizina being your quarterback and
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  Speaker 2: you being in that next tier. But now, who do
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  Speaker 2: I feel like is closest? Louisville has an extremely complete team.
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  Speaker 2: I mean cleve moving off the edge. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: how did that young man break his Army commitment? That's
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  Speaker 2: that's what I want to know for before anyone else.
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  Speaker 2: How does he transferred from Army the coastal in the
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  Speaker 2: Louisville But he has been a minute off the edge
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  Speaker 2: and every coffegeen he's played in at every level of ball.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Brown, as much as he gets love as a quarterback, whisperer,
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  Speaker 2: tell me when the last time is that Louisville has
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  Speaker 2: missed on a wide receiver transfer of the portal and
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  Speaker 2: Isaac Brown. Let me tell you something. There is no
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  Speaker 2: bigger fan Isaac Brown than maybe his mom and dad
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  Speaker 2: and his old lady than me. That kid is the
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  Speaker 2: flash personified. He is the closest thing we've seen the
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  Speaker 2: Chris Johnson since Christ Johnson, with his ability to stop
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  Speaker 2: and start on a dive, with his ability that when
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  Speaker 2: he's even he's leaving and then he has a contact
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  Speaker 2: balance that's uncanny for a guy his size. Everybody talked
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  Speaker 2: about he was banged up last year and get you
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  Speaker 2: still averaged over six yards per carry. So so over
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  Speaker 2: the course of about four to five handoffs to that kid,
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  Speaker 2: you cover nearly half the field right like he is
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  Speaker 2: a human highlight reel waiting to happen. And I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to tell you something. If Louisville is to have that
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  Speaker 2: surprise year where we look up and say, well, damn,
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  Speaker 2: does Louisvill have eleven wins, he could go up to
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  Speaker 2: New York for the Heisman. Ceah Bony Kenton.
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  Speaker 3: I've never seen a guy get more fans on the
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  Speaker 3: text line this quickly than Knton. Well, Kenton man, although
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  Speaker 3: because he put you in your place and that's really good.
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  Speaker 1: That probably scored. That probably scored a lot of points.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see if Clemson fans love Kenton. Because I got
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  Speaker 1: to follow up on that little dig Kenton. We gotta
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  Speaker 1: we gotta let you elaborate. So your thoughts on Clemson
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  Speaker 1: not being in that next tier, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I disagree with you, I'd probably put Louis the
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  Speaker 1: lesmu in there. But like let's talk through this. Is
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  Speaker 1: it just the quarterback position or is it more than that?
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  Speaker 2: So in college football, it's different than the NFL because
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  Speaker 2: the talent gaps are a little bit different. Right in
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  Speaker 2: college we saw Bama win for years and years and
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  Speaker 2: years with like subpar to good quarterback play. So they
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  Speaker 2: showed us a route to where you can win football
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  Speaker 2: games without having a superstar quarterback that can go let
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  Speaker 2: it and take that thing over. The problem is, does
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  Speaker 2: Clemson have that type of talent around Zina the wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver room, fantastic Gideon Davis. We all know what we're
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  Speaker 2: expecting get him to do in year two and all
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  Speaker 2: that good stuff. But the problem is you're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: an offensive line that's visually rebuilt, a defensive line that
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  Speaker 2: outside of will help. Who's your guy? Peter Woods is
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  Speaker 2: one of the best run stoppers in the nation last
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  Speaker 2: year and I Love Me from Sammy Brown. He plays
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  Speaker 2: with his hair on fire. He plays like former wolf
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  Speaker 2: packer or I'm sorry, former wolf pack player Peyton Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: He plays just like him, Hans on fire Folk, flying
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  Speaker 2: around one thousand miles power everywhere he goes. The reality
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  Speaker 2: is he needs somebody in the middle to keep those
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  Speaker 2: big hog malls out of his lap as soon as
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  Speaker 2: the ball is snapped. Who's going to be those guys
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  Speaker 2: for Clinton. Who's going to be those defensive tackles that
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  Speaker 2: keep those linebackers with the ability to flow and find
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  Speaker 2: and all that good stuff. I'm not sure what it
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  Speaker 2: looks like for them the defensive backfield. I mean, they're
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  Speaker 2: good enough if everything else around them was really high level.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that they I just don't think they
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  Speaker 2: have it. So it's the quarterback is the start of
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  Speaker 2: my concerns, but it's not the end of my concerns.
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  Speaker 2: To me, they don't have the situation where their team
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  Speaker 2: is more time than everybody else by a mile, and
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  Speaker 2: they don't have the quarterback that Kevin Jennings can make
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  Speaker 2: you right. JKS out and Kyle he can make you
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  Speaker 2: right even if everything else goes wrong in the play.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Jks. You've got a shot at him making
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  Speaker 2: you right. You don't have Hell even CJ. Bailey can
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  Speaker 2: make your right when you need him too. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: looking at Christmas in and saying he can make you right,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'm looking at the other players like, well
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  Speaker 2: he gonna have to make you rite a lot. That's
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  Speaker 2: just the reality with their ross.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of a CJ. Bailey, a lot of hype growing
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  Speaker 3: throughout the summer for NC State. How justified is that hype? Kenon?
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  Speaker 3: Can this team finally get to that ten win mark
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  Speaker 3: that's alluded them under Dave Dord?
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  Speaker 2: You know we are hoping and praying and wishing and thinking.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you something. Can this team get there?
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  Speaker 2: It's very possible because they have the opposite problem with Clinton.
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  Speaker 2: They have the guy in place at quarterback. I think CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey is really really special. I really do. And everything
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  Speaker 2: I've been hearing out of campus, the game is slowing
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  Speaker 2: down for him even more. He's processing these things at
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  Speaker 2: a higher level of before. And his physical tools were
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  Speaker 2: never the problem. It was never thought of Kenny throw
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  Speaker 2: the ball the country, Milt, Kenny doing enough as a runner,
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  Speaker 2: Kenny doing enough. Kenny make you right. He's really good
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  Speaker 2: at playing out of structure and playing on time as well.
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  Speaker 2: The thing was, you know, how well does he process
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  Speaker 2: the game? How well does he see the game? And
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  Speaker 2: he's doing that at another level now, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is very important for the wolf back The biggest question
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  Speaker 2: I have about the wolf Pack is defensively, what are
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  Speaker 2: you gonna do? What's gonna happen. Don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 2: Harvey Dyson one of the biggest pickups in the portal
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  Speaker 2: for anybody period. Heck of a pass resturer out of Tula,
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be an impact player. I think you
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  Speaker 2: need at least two solid edges in order to be
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  Speaker 2: good and power for football, because the reality is teams
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  Speaker 2: could shift to one guy. Teams could just say we'll
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  Speaker 2: neutralize that guy, We'll send a chick, we'll send a
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  Speaker 2: tight end, whatever, and so where do you go from there?
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  Speaker 2: Who's your next up? But I'm gonna tell you the
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  Speaker 2: linebacker cover is a much improved from last year. We
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  Speaker 2: had guys playing terribly out of position last year. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we had guys playing will linebacker that are now playing
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  Speaker 2: edge at their new school because their new school figured out, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this boy can't cover grass when we asked him to backpedals.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like a baby draft trying to walk for
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  Speaker 2: the first time. And we had those guys detached from
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  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage trying to do that for us.
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  Speaker 2: So the defense is still a question marked to some extent. However,
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  Speaker 2: king back on the back end, Brian Nelson, the second
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  Speaker 2: on the back end, you feel a little bit better
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  Speaker 2: and the linebacker play can't be worse than it was
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  Speaker 2: last year outside of Katon Fordon when Sean Brown went down,
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  Speaker 2: I knew right there, like, oh oh boy, I'm able
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  Speaker 2: to look away from this linebacker play. And there were
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  Speaker 2: times last year we do this thing called the Lockdown
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  Speaker 2: look at week I had to stop myself from talking
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  Speaker 2: about our linebackers because I'm like, this is bullying at
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  Speaker 2: this point, this is not what we stand for here
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  Speaker 2: on Lockdown Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, last thing I want to ask you is
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  Speaker 1: Kenton Gibbs, by the way, locked on acc and locked
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  Speaker 1: on wolf Pack, telling you what it is about this
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  Speaker 1: wolf Pack defense. Got to ask you about the tar Heels,
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  Speaker 1: my lord. I mean, it's we can't even you can't
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  Speaker 1: even talk football with them. There's always something going on
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  Speaker 1: that is dramatic and is a total mess. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: can they be a better football team this year? And
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing though, will they have the wins to
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  Speaker 1: show for it? Because that schedule's way tougher this year.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think it.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't happen to a better program. It just could not
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  Speaker 2: happen to a better program. And by the way, we
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  Speaker 2: can talk football with them, my fellow cast technicians, CJ. Sadler,
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  Speaker 2: give me a call. Brother. The university can't temper with you,
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  Speaker 2: but I can. We can get you over the state.
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  Speaker 2: We got to No, b we ain't got to do.
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  Speaker 2: Here's here's what I will say about you and see.
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  Speaker 2: Can they be a better team than last year? No?
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  Speaker 2: Will they be a better team the last year with
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  Speaker 2: their schedule? Absolutely not. Allegedly, there's an investigation being opened
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  Speaker 2: up into Lombardi for improprieties with nil and all that.
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  Speaker 2: And they just named Billy Edwards their starter. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know how down bad you have to be to cheat
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  Speaker 2: to secure Billy Edwards as your starter? Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: it's like finding out that the kid cheating on this
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  Speaker 2: test out of D mining like we could have. You mean,
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  Speaker 2: you got the answers online and you still got all
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  Speaker 2: the answers wrong. I'm deeply concerned about this team, and
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  Speaker 2: I will say this, I'll do my one big d
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  Speaker 2: so hopefully when I get to the pearleagu games, the
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  Speaker 2: big man it's pleased with me, UNC has shown the
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  Speaker 2: ability and willingness to spend on football. That is the
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  Speaker 2: most important things that will come out of the Belichick era,
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  Speaker 2: because this is a error. This isn't an era. This
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  Speaker 2: has been an error from day one. Where you're old
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  Speaker 2: lady who's very young, actually so young that I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: even talk to her without people looking at me. Funny
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  Speaker 2: is asking for four year requests of who's mentioning their
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  Speaker 2: name and your GM's being suspended for HR reasons. And
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  Speaker 2: the crazy thing is you got all the shenanigans going on,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that this is a scheme set up
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  Speaker 2: by the Bete apps Because if you would have told
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  Speaker 2: me that Bill Belichick with a twenty four year old
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  Speaker 2: girlfriend and bottom of Patrino are on the same staff,
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  Speaker 2: but there would be the field who gets the HR investigation.
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  Speaker 2: I would have put some money on that, good money
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  Speaker 2: on Bill or Petrino. Watch the motorcycles, watch the co
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  Speaker 2: ed and now we got to watch the Lombardi too.
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  Speaker 2: I only got two hours, you know, so I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a setup by Draft King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you though, in all that rivalry snark that
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  Speaker 1: is making tar Heel fans mad. On the text, line
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  Speaker 1: there was goosebumps there. Well, you both was liking if
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  Speaker 1: Fitty was hiding over there. I couldn't get a reaction
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  Speaker 1: as you got a lot to say to them. Ken
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  Speaker 1: gives it sixteen to Kenton. There was a tremendous point
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  Speaker 1: in there. They spent money on football.
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  Speaker 3: Please.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you're a Targhell fan, you got to
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  Speaker 1: be thinking be willing to do that again, except on
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate hire the next time. Appreciate it, brother, you
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  Speaker 1: knocked it down the park. This interview was a great
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  Speaker 1: advertisement for Locked on acc Look it up and listen
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  Speaker 1: to Kenton also Locked on wolf Pack as well. Thank you, man.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Be good. Hey, I appreciate you. And again we all
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  Speaker 2: hoping that Margaret to get out of the hospitals. They
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  Speaker 2: can do joy some good tailcases football.
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  Speaker 1: Let all the grannies out. Dang it all right, Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Ken. Appreciate it man,