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The GLOBAL AGENDA Behind VACCINES and ABORTION — A Pro-Life Law Professor SPEAKS OUT · Adrian Milag Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean what I didn't li what I especially was uh objected to was how it was used politically.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean right right Archbishop Corleone in San Francisco, his movement free the mass.
0:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean in California you could go to a bar because that was necessary for social interaction during COVID, but don't go to mass.
0:20
SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: The closed the the seriously they shut down the sacrament.
0:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
0:26
SPEAKER_00: So it was it was politicized.
0:30
SPEAKER_00: It was you it was weaponized.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_00: And and so no, not only was it a medical experiment on a grand scale, global, it was also a political experiment in how shall we call it anything but a totalitarian way to shut down democratic process.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Let's see how it works.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: Can we do it?
0:54
SPEAKER_00: And they proved they could.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: Because as you said, persecution.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: So I didn't bel I didn't buy into the may have been an ulterior motive in the minds of some of the people that were that politicized the COVID uh hysteria.
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SPEAKER_00: Is uh is it this could be uh a way to uh reduce the population of the world.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course, the Philippines.
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SPEAKER_00: Back when I was here in 1995 and 1996, I knew a good priest who had the vials of uh H uh uh anti-uh pregnancy vaccines.
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SPEAKER_00: They were distributed by World Health Organization.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, and uh he uh had uh he had saved three or four of these and had taken them to show that they were laced with anti-HCG, anti-pregnancy uh uh uh and uh uh contaminants.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: World Health Organization said that's all it is, it's just a contamination.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't intentional.
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SPEAKER_00: But then the protocol for this particular HI uh I'm sorry, anti-HCG vaccine said that it was to be distributed only to women and only to women of Thermopy.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's not that we really have to John, you know, going back to uh the the HOT, the population bomb by Ehrlich back in the 60s, 1960s, that we're there's that that we're all going to uh starve to death, uh a malfusion uh myth that there's just not enough food.
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SPEAKER_00: That was you know, Pope Pope uh Paul VI, the first Pope to speak at the United Nations, addressed that um issue.
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SPEAKER_00: He said, the problem with the population of the world is not that there's too many people at the table of life, at the banquet of life, the problem is to put more food on the table.
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SPEAKER_00: Not to take people away.
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SPEAKER_00: And then we had the green revolution.
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SPEAKER_00: Pretty soon India, instead of having to import grain to feed its population, was exporting grain.
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SPEAKER_00: So, no.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, what does overpopulation really mean?
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SPEAKER_00: It means this that the poor people of the world don't contribute to the market, they don't buy and they don't sell.
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SPEAKER_00: They are useless.
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SPEAKER_00: In fact, they're dangerous, and so they're we should they should be eliminated.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Saint Benedict over there, and Saint Um St.
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SPEAKER_02: Michael's stone.
3:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow, uh Gargano Italy from Italy?
3:40
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Gargano?
3:41
SPEAKER_02: I've been there.
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SPEAKER_00: Not far from Padre Pio's uh monastery across the valley.
3:46
SPEAKER_02: Wow, yeah.
3:47
SPEAKER_00: How was it?
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SPEAKER_00: Both were wonderful, but I was there so long ago.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: It was during the time when uh Giovanni Paolo Primo was elected as the Pope, back when John Paul I was elected.
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SPEAKER_02: Giovanni Primo, yes.
4:00
SPEAKER_00: He was the John Paul I.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh I was in Rome for the whole pontificate.
4:05
SPEAKER_00: 32 days after the Vatican.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: And my my rosary is from the Vatican.
4:12
SPEAKER_00: It's uh given to me by by one of the popes, and uh so it's got Pope.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: I've seen we did Victoria and I saw Pope Leo in a private audience.
4:22
SPEAKER_00: Nice, nice.
4:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh I saw him earlier.
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SPEAKER_00: You're blessed.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, yes, and then we saw we met Pope uh France.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: I met Pope Francis a lot of times, um, and then Pope Benedict twice.
4:34
SPEAKER_02: I never met Pope Francis.
4:37
SPEAKER_02: Even he came here, but the people are so oh I mean, like a monkey once jumping in, and people are so crowded.
4:51
SPEAKER_02: It's hard, it's hard.
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SPEAKER_00: I missed we had a private, we were gonna have a private mass with John Paul II, but I spoke to the the nun and I told her I'd be back in Rome on Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
5:05
SPEAKER_00: So I got back, and and we I would have an interview or go to mass on Wednesday.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: So I called her up, I said, Swara, we're here.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, Professor Skardenekia, your your time, your meeting with Pope was today.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: I said, No, I said I'd be in Rome back today, but tomorrow.
5:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm so sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: So I every time I go to Rome, I go to the grave of Pope John Paul II.
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SPEAKER_00: I talk to him, I said, Look, you owe me.
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SPEAKER_00: And he always gets me in to see the Pope.
5:35
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, anyway.
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SPEAKER_02: You're blessed.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe Prof.
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SPEAKER_02: Brian, we can start our conversation now in the name of our son, the Holy Spirit.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome, Professor Brian Skarnecchia.
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SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: You you pronounced it perfectly.
8:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I researched it how to pronounce it.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so welcome to our program, Storian Catholico.
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SPEAKER_00: Adrian, it's an honor to be here.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm very pleased.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when Dean Jamie shared to me that you will have an event later at discussion about natural law, about Dobbs regarding pro-life and your expertise.
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SPEAKER_02: I said yes immediately to him to attend that.
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SPEAKER_02: I asked permission if I can able to interview you before the event.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm I'm very honored and and congratulations on your um putting together this marvelous uh platform to reach out and evangelize uh to tell the truth in uh in an era where so many lies are propagated.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh may God continue to bless your program.
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SPEAKER_02: Pro Brian, you're a full a full professor of law, expert in international law, bioethics, human rights, and catholic social teaching, and you are in Abbe Maria School of Law.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: That's correct.
10:00
SPEAKER_00: In uh in Fort Well, in Naples, Florida.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: And um, I've also been a dean of uh associate dean in Miami at uh St.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: Thomas uh University College of Law, and I've taught at Franciscan University uh as a professor there as well.
10:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, you're so many titles on your belt.
10:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, and and this isn't the first time that we've been I've been to the to the Philippines.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: Um I've lectured at uh at Santo Tomas, IUSD, and um, and of course here as well.
10:33
SPEAKER_00: Wow, so it's the second time.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh this is the third time.
10:38
SPEAKER_00: We were here in '95, wow.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: We met with Vice Mayor Lito Atiens.
10:44
SPEAKER_00: I've interviewed him.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Very pro-life.
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SPEAKER_00: Very pro-life.
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SPEAKER_00: And we were I was a speaker with the Human Life International uh uh speaking group with Father Habakker, and uh and then again in 1996 we came back.
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SPEAKER_00: That's nice and then more recently in 2008, where um we met with uh President Gloria Roya, and uh we were able to uh give a uh a statement by Catholic social scientists urging her to veto the pending bill that would have legalized uh sex education.
11:21
SPEAKER_00: That's the RH bill.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, back in 2008.
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SPEAKER_00: And apparently the letter from the American uh organization, Society of Catholic Social Scientists, was influential.
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SPEAKER_00: The bishop, uh the bishops used it, the Filipino bishops used it as evidence um that there is uh academic consensus, international consensus, that that uh sex education and uh coercive measures to have one or two children were contrary to human dignity.
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SPEAKER_00: And we know what's the effect now.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Well disastrous.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they don't stop.
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SPEAKER_00: The opposition is relentless.
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SPEAKER_00: Um it's as if the devil knows he's only got so much time and he keeps pushing and pushing.
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SPEAKER_00: But but you know, we fight back.
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SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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SPEAKER_00: Your your your apostolate, the uh University of Asia and the Pacific, other good Catholic institutions, we try to reach uh uh from uh the barrios to the universities and inspire uh inspire people to to to stay close to Christ, to follow the culture, that the the deep culture in this case of the Philippines, which is so close to Christ, his church, the Blessed Mother.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and to say no to the lies.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Very difficult, but possible.
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SPEAKER_02: Your opinion on what's happening now with uh Dr.
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SPEAKER_02: Fauci on the current investigation on the COVID vaccine and pandemic?
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SPEAKER_00: Um the pandemic was uh well my wife and I we didn't really buy into the the hype about the need for these vaccines, these vaccines that were really uh from abortation playing with genetic mutation.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean there was y you know the words, these were un un uh tested experimential vaccines.
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SPEAKER_00: And now we were giving it a global uh a global venue to to to see the result.
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SPEAKER_00: Many people died.
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SPEAKER_00: Died, myoparditis.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um good friends, I've lost good friends from that.
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SPEAKER_00: So you know, there were Fauci was given some immunities from prosecution, right?
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SPEAKER_00: So but really the fact that he had knowledge and suppressed knowledge of the counterindications from these vaccines, um well, if it's not criminal, it's certainly uh a lesson for the medical profession to not become a tool of political agenda.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And even and also to to the church, to the Catholic Church during that time, because let's face it, even Pope Francis promote uh let's all be vaccinated as charity and compassion to others.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, in the Catholic uh intellectual tradition, we distinguish infallibility from prudential judgments, right?
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SPEAKER_00: And all I can say is that sometimes the church's leaders, prudential judgment is imprudent.
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SPEAKER_00: Does it mean that they're not they're not operating in good faith?
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SPEAKER_00: But in the United States, here's the problem, and I did a little bit of research on this.
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SPEAKER_00: The uh about the time the pandemic hit, the Catholic Church in the United States and throughout the world, but especially in the United States, was still uh reeling or suffering from the child abuse scandals.
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SPEAKER_00: And there were lawsuits against well, against the Pope.
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SPEAKER_00: Of course, they would have had to get through governmental immunity to get to the Pope, which wasn't going to happen.
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SPEAKER_00: But they filed suits against the Pope saying that he knew and should have done more to uh prevent child abuse, child neglect.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh instead he didn't.
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SPEAKER_00: Well now just think about it.
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SPEAKER_00: In the United States, if the church had spoke out and said uh it's premature to impose these uh sanc these uh restrictions um on church attendance in the name of presenting disease, the lawyers that were already suing the Catholic Church would say the Catholic Church is a vector for spreading AIDS.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, for spreading HIV, um for spreading COVID.
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SPEAKER_00: And so we we had lost the moral authority, the church had lost the moral authority to uh be a counter voice against the uh COVID um hysteria.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh is it right that the COVID vaccine is from aborted fetus?
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SPEAKER_00: Some are, not all, most were.
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SPEAKER_00: And of course you know that the the teaching of the church that if there's no other alternative to a tainted, morally tainted uh vaccine, it is permissible to use those morally tainted vaccines, even if they're from aborted fetuses, provided you complain and you make your voice heard that you want uh a vaccine that has not been cultured from an aborted fetus.
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SPEAKER_00: So um there were two objections to using the vaccines morally.
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SPEAKER_00: One, they come from a tainted source, but two, they had the potential of doing germline genetic modification.
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SPEAKER_00: Even though it was denied, there was still some evidence that it did.
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SPEAKER_00: And in that situation, the church has spoken out very clearly that uh any uh medical intervention that threatens uh gene line mutation with unknown uh uh r results is immoral.
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SPEAKER_00: So there were two grounds to object to taking the vaccine because of the messenger RNA vector that was used to um deliver the uh uh anti-uh COVID uh uh uh antibodies.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: If it is okay to ask, you are are you vaccinated?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I was not vaccinated.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I refused to be vaccinated.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: I got COVID twice.
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SPEAKER_00: One time I was hospitalized.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh and I'm state you experienced persecution, cancellation.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: But then later, when I went to the doctor, they took my blood and they said, Oh my goodness, you've got so many anti-bodies to COVID.
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SPEAKER_00: We'd like to have your blood.
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SPEAKER_00: So I anyways, uh no, I I resisted the COVID hysteria.
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SPEAKER_00: I was not vaccinated, neither was my wife.
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SPEAKER_00: Came down with COVID.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, everybody gets the flu.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: Uh some people die of the flu.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_00: Most of us don't.
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SPEAKER_00: And and that's how I approached it.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow, thank you for sharing, because this is this is a hot topic right now.
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SPEAKER_02: I see this uh in intern uh in in different media platforms in the United States, uh, the investigation regarding the pandemic.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, what I didn't like what I especially was uh objected to was how it was used politically.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I mean, right, right.
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SPEAKER_00: Archbishop Corleone in San Francisco, his movement free the mass.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, in California you could go to a bar because that was necessary for social interaction during COVID, but don't go to mass.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: They close the the seriously.
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SPEAKER_02: They shut down the sacrament.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So it was it was politicized, it was you it was weaponized.
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SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_00: And and so no, not only was it a medical experiment on a grand scale, global, it was also a political experiment in how shall we call it anything but a totalitarian way to shut down democratic process.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's see how it works.
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SPEAKER_00: Can we do it?
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SPEAKER_00: And they proved they could.
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SPEAKER_00: Because as you said, persecution, so I didn't bel I didn't buy into the hysteria.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: But everybody would look at me and go, here, take a mask.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't want a mask.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: So you those wear a mask.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: I didn't no, but they said you have to wear a mask.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: Okay, if I, you know, if I somebody's got a gun to my head, I'll put a mask on.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, in some ways it was enjoyable because there were fewer people on the road, so driving was easier.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh there were there were fewer people taking airplane rides, the price was almost free.
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SPEAKER_02: But you still have your grocery even if you you're not vaccinated.
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SPEAKER_00: I wasn't in the city.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: I was I have a farm in the United States.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: Ah, so you it's self-sustained.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's nice.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh we need that.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: I had the wherewithal to be independent.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: We need that.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: Living in a city like Rome or Manila is very difficult.
20:40
SPEAKER_00: I understand.
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SPEAKER_02: That's our that's our goal.
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SPEAKER_02: My my wife and I, that's our goal on um it's sometimes in the future.
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SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of uh in again.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh that's why I say it was an experiment, medical experiment, and and a political experiment.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_00: And the results now uh can contribute to a future um new uh new experiment.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And Pro Brian, can you tell us briefly about yourself uh for the sake of our viewers who have seen you for the first time?
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Um my wife and I have been married for 42 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, we have six children, uh, all married, and we have uh 21 grandchildren.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: My wife is from Cebu.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh we met in Berkeley, California, where she was completing her degree in uh biology with MedTech specialization.
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SPEAKER_00: I was completing a master's of divinity degree.
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SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about being a priest.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: Oh but I had made up my mind before I met my wife to not be a priest.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: But after I met my wife, of course, it was definitely so you you decided correctly?
21:57
SPEAKER_00: We met at the Legion of Mary in California, so we both had the same spirituality on the rosary.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: Marian.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: Yes, Marian spirituality.
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SPEAKER_00: I uh went to law school afterwards, uh, after completing my master's of divinity.
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SPEAKER_00: I went to law school and then I started a practice in law.
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SPEAKER_00: I uh represented um pro-life people arrested for sitting in front of abortion clinics, blocking the doors, not doing anything violent, just sitting there for a sit-in.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: Right.
22:32
SPEAKER_00: And uh and they were be called off to jail.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: And and uh I represented them.
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SPEAKER_00: One of the first clients that I had was an art was a bishop and the president of a Catholic university, all arrested for blocking the doors of an abortion clinic.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: And that made me a person non-grata amongst the judiciary and the legal community of that city.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: But um, but I um that's why I decided that I should perhaps get out of the practice of law because now my clients would be prejudiced by the fact that their lawyer, me, was disliked uh for my political position.
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SPEAKER_00: So I went into academia.
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SPEAKER_00: I created a legal studies program and also helped to begin a law school uh that eventually became Avi Maria School of Law.
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SPEAKER_00: So I I switched gears from the active uh practice of law to uh academics.
23:36
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought that you know what I could do was important, but if I could train up a whole generation of good lawyers, that I would be contributing in a bigger way to the pro-life movement, to uh the restoration of uh what John Paul II called uh a truly human civilization.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: He called it a civilization of love, uh, he called it as a a culture of life.
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SPEAKER_05: Amen.
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SPEAKER_00: But he also called it simply a truly human civilization.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: And what we're living in now is so much uh almost inhuman.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: And of course, we see things now with the advance of AI and other things that make it even more um well, how shall we say, just less and less um relational.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: Yes, social um yeah, socialization, yeah.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: The human person is relational, right?
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Not fundamentally autonomous.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: And in constitutional law, in the United States, you see a progression in Griswold versus Connecticut back in 1965 that spoke about contraception being legitimate because of a right to privacy.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: Then years later, in Planned Parenthood versus Casey, a right to privacy becomes liberty.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: And then Oker Buffell coming up later, privacy, liberty now becomes autonomy.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: As if the fundamental orientation of human nature is privacy.
25:16
SPEAKER_00: Excuse me, little kids they want to go out and play, they don't want to play with themselves, they want to play with other people, other children.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: The fundamental orientation of people is not autonomy, privacy.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Correct, it's relational, that's right, friendship.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: That's what is at the heart of the human person because we're an image of God.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: And what it and if you theologically, when they were trying to come up with uh the the the Nicene Creed, uh fighting with uh the heretic Arius, they had to come up with a word that could distinguish Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: They're all God, so that doesn't distinguish them.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh what distinguishes them though?
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they have a different mind.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: No, they don't have a different mind, they have one mind.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they have a different will.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: No, they don't have different wills, they have one will.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, they have a different substance.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: No, they they're just one.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, what's the difference?
26:20
SPEAKER_00: They use the word persona, persona, which means person, but they transvalued it instead of it being an actor's mask, right?
26:30
SPEAKER_00: They made it um stand for the for what we now call relation.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: What distinguishes the father from the son, from the Holy Spirit, is their relationship to each other.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: The son is from the father, the father is not from the son.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: And so you see, the whole notion of person is relational.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: We're made in that image.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: So to say that the fundamental uh driving force in the United States Constitution is we striving for individualistic autonomy, nonsense.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: It's relational.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: Wow, thank you for that very colorful uh story of yours uh for Brian.
27:18
SPEAKER_02: And for those who may not be familiar, uh can you explain in simple terms what the Dobbs decision?
27:24
SPEAKER_00: The Dobbs decision was uh originated uh uh as a way to overturn Roe versus Wade.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: Um the state had posited that abortions after 15 weeks would be against the law.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh I did, along with uh some colleagues, a brief, an amicus brief, a friend of the court brief that we filed in the Supreme Court of the United States saying that internationally the standard for outlawing abortion is 10 weeks.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: And Louisiana's law of 15 weeks falls well beyond what's the international gold standard for when to allow abortion or not.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: Um the court ruled, uh the Supreme Court of the United States overturned Roe v.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: Wade, said that abortion is not protected, is not a protected right under the federal constitution, under the United States Constitution.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: Whether it remains a protected right under a state constitution is another matter.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, anyways, um so the court reversed Roe versus Wade and returned the legality of abortion to the states.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: But was that really all they could have done?
28:52
SPEAKER_00: They could have done more.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: And that's what my paper that I'm presenting this afternoon at the University of Asia and Pacific is arguing.
29:01
SPEAKER_00: That the court knew that at the time of the ratification of the 14th Amendment, which used the word persons, and you know, that all persons are protected, uh, have the right to due process and equal protection of the laws.
29:18
SPEAKER_00: That word person, in the minds of those who drafted it, in the minds of those who ratified it, included unborn children, prenatal children.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: The Supreme Court we was presented with evidence that this was a proper reading of the original public understanding of the word persons.
29:44
SPEAKER_00: And so we this these amiki, these amiki uh friends of the court urged the court, the Supreme Court, to declare that the prenatal child before the child in utero in their mother's womb is a person with legal personality.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: The same as a corporation, the same as a and even more so because the court, the the the courts and the people recognized that the Fourteenth Amendment included natural persons and uh corporate persons at the time it was ratified, and any event, in any event, the court refused to take the high road.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: Returning it to the states so that people could vote on abortion.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Well, think about it.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, should we be voting on whether we kill innocent people?
30:46
SPEAKER_00: Should we be voting on whether we should uh have the right to hold slaves?
30:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we should vote on slavery, shouldn't we?
30:54
SPEAKER_00: No, it's ridiculous.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: There's certain things that are beyond voting.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: Right.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: See, John Paul II pointed that out in Gospel of Life.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, and he said that had the atrocities of the Second World War, genocide, had genocide been voted on and approved by the German people instead of simply imposed by the Nazi party, would that have made it okay?
31:17
SPEAKER_00: Gobbs was a first step.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: It declassified abortion as a right under the Federal Constitution, but it didn't go far enough.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: It didn't safeguard the legal personality of unborn children, and um in that respect they failed.
31:41
SPEAKER_00: They failed in their duty.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: I suppose they were afraid.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, if we say that an unborn child has is a legal person, then destroying them, well, wouldn't that be homicide?
31:58
SPEAKER_00: Now, who do we criminalize for homicide?
32:03
SPEAKER_00: Women who have abortions now become guilty of homicide?
32:09
SPEAKER_00: That perhaps looked as if as if it was a bridge too far for the court to um to do.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: Although there was no there's no reason that you would have to go that far.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could criminalize those that uh do abortions without criminalizing those who have uh been victims of abortion.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: You do it and have to make the woman um a criminal.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
32:37
SPEAKER_00: You would perhaps leave some pressure there that she testify and give evidence of who who performed the abortion.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: Just like prosecutors oftentimes require women who have suffered domestic abuse to not remain silent.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: You have to go forward uh and and and testify as to who the abuser was.
32:59
SPEAKER_00: Or then we can, you know, say that you're not uh uh, you know, that you're obstructing justice, and then you can face um penalties.
33:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: But you'd be facing penalties for obstructing justice, yes, not for um the crime of abortion, the curing of abortion.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: Do you consider this a a major win in the pro-life movement?
33:22
SPEAKER_00: Certainly was a win to the pro-life movement, but the results are, as I say in my paper, grim.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: Because why?
33:30
SPEAKER_00: In the United States, where we've voted on abortion, what's happened?
33:34
SPEAKER_00: Ten states have voted on abortion.
33:36
SPEAKER_00: How many do you think voted to uh approve abortion rights?
33:41
SPEAKER_00: Seven out of ten.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Let's face it, it's almost as if what Jesus said about this world, the children of this world are shrewder than we.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: They know how to manipulate media, they know how to manipulate courts, they know how to manipulate legislate.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: Look at what they did to Christ Himself.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: They manipulated his execution.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: Illegally.
34:09
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's right.
34:11
SPEAKER_00: And and God himself couldn't wouldn't prevent that kind of uh evil from taking place.
34:20
SPEAKER_00: So to be honest, the only way that abortion is going to leave unborn children safe in the womb is for the least political branch of politics, the courts, to restore their legal personality.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: To expect it from the legislatures or even from referendums, you you're expecting a miracle.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: Not to say that there isn't precedent for miracles, but it's more likely that the court could and should do what's right.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: And there's some hope that a new generation of uh legal scholars and judges will see the natural law as the foundation of the Constitution in the Philippines.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: There is evidence, uh a lot of evidence, that the natural law is foundational.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Right.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh Oposa, that court case that recognized um the right of uh the right to a healthful in environment uh for children and for future generations, said that the Constitution of the Philippines or any constitution is subsequent to a higher law.
35:40
SPEAKER_00: That's the Supreme Court of the Philippines.
35:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: Now this is this is very hopeful to uh, you know, I know the uh Filipino Constitution is based on the Constitution of the United States, but the reading given to the Filipino Constitution by the Supreme Court in Oposa, I think, should be persuasive authority for the United States.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: We'll see.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you for sharing that.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: And you said that a contraceptive mentality continues to weaken the impact of dubs.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: In Planned Parenthood versus Casey, the Supreme Court, not the Pope, said the Supreme Court said if you have legalized contraception, it requires legalized abortion in case contraception should fail.
36:28
SPEAKER_00: Let's face it, the United States, even pro-life people in the United States use contraceptives.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: Contraception is the skunk at the bottom of the wood pile.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: It changed our understanding of human sexuality as relational.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: That's I mean, think about contraception.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: You make yourself infertile.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, homosexual couples, they're infertile naturally.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: If you know, if people go out of their way to make themselves infertile, then infertile sex is okay.
37:03
SPEAKER_00: In other words, the mentalities put in place in the United States in Griswold versus Connecticut set in motion.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: Abortion, if you're gonna if you're gonna contracept, you're gonna need abortion in case contraception fails.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: Are you willing to give up contraception?
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, well then you can't give up abortion.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: And then if if sterile sex is the whole goal of contraception, well then sterile sex amongst homosexuals is the same.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: Why should why should that be um illegal?
37:41
SPEAKER_00: Why should homosexual sodomy be illegal?
37:44
SPEAKER_00: And so, I mean, let's face it, it would take a metanoia.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: It would take, as you and I have experienced, a radical coming to Christ for people to give up um contraception.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: And I'll go on record, right here and now as I'm looking at my wife, not only did we not give in to COVID hysteria, we never used contraceptives either.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Never.
38:08
SPEAKER_00: Every two years or so, uh, the baby would be weaned from his or her mother's milk, and we conceive another child.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: Every one of our children.
38:17
SPEAKER_00: You practice natural family planning and every two years a baby would come, and then at a certain point, was like, wait a minute, we're why why isn't there a baby?
38:29
SPEAKER_00: We were starting to outlive our our for our fertile years, and then we had two miscarriages.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: But we never said no to we we were always trying to be generous with God.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't because we were rich.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we we struggled, we barely, we barely got by the during some of those early years.
38:52
SPEAKER_00: But there's an old saying, and I'm sure you're familiar with it, that every baby comes with a loaf of bread under their under their in their arms.
39:02
SPEAKER_00: Meaning to say every God will bless you financially for your generosity.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh He cares more about that baby that's being born than even you do.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: Um Wow.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: That's of course that's stepping out in faith, but uh, that's what that's what we should do.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: And of course, being generous to life does it means different things than different people.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: In Singapore or Manila, when you're living in a small apartment, one two children might be being very generous because it's so hard to, you know, sustain uh a decent environment in such a small space.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: Whereas when my wife and I had a farm, we had a lot of room.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: And and and we had, you know, enough to get by.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: And so for us to be generous with life was, you know, six children, even more.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: And where I go to s where I taught at Franciscan University of Soubanville, it was common for professors to have six, five, six, seven, even ten children.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: They were well-educated people.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, they they were not doing it for lack of knowledge as to how to uh contracept.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: I remember talking to a prosecutor one time when I told him that I had uh that we'd just had another baby, and he said, What?
40:15
SPEAKER_00: Don't your wife and I ever watch television, you know, stuff like this.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: You're just trying to take money out of my pocket.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: Every time you look at your tax returns and you don't think you get a big enough deduction, you have another kid.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: And I said to him, Look, Kenny, that was his name, Kenny.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: I said, Look, Kenny, if I thought I was taking money out of your wallet, I'd have 12 kids.
40:37
SPEAKER_06: That's funny.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's inspiring.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: The population density of the world, you know, there's all kinds of demographers that'll show that we could well, we could easily feed 20 billion people.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: 7, 8, 10 billion is nothing.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: The population density of China is the same as Florida or New York.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, I've I've been to Florida, I've been to New York, I've been to China, and sure, you go like Manila, you go into Beijing, oh, it's very crowded.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: And of course, they use uh coal to heat much of their you know, their infrastructure, and it's polluted.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: But you drive to the Great Wall of China, and what do you see?
41:18
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: Nobody.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: Like, where did all the people go?
41:23
SPEAKER_00: Or none.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's the same in the United States, in the Philippines, too, right?
41:28
SPEAKER_00: The big cities are crowded, but you go out into the country, there's nobody there.
41:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
41:34
SPEAKER_00: We have plenty of room.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: There is a concentration problem of people, that's true.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh and if you only live in the city and you get stuck in a manila traffic jam, well, of course there's too many people because they're in my way.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:49
SPEAKER_00: But so that's a political question, how to help people.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: And this is one thing that COVID did do because it allows people, it gave them the precedent of working from home.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: And that part was good.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Because it helped to you know dis diffuse um the concentration of population in big cities.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: It gave people the chance to work from other locations that are made perhaps more family friendly and um and conducive to yeah, to raising a family.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh I heard that all the population the world can fill in in one of the state in the United States.
42:26
SPEAKER_02: Very easy.
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Very easily.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: You could put them in and if you put them shoulder to shoulder, you could put them all in Jacksonville, Florida.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Florida, yeah.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, one little city, but not a little city, but I mean you it's a city.
42:37
SPEAKER_00: All the population the world.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, the population could be put shoulder to shoulder in one spot.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Or if you gave everybody uh, I forget the amount of uh square footage, you could put them all in Texas.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: The rest of the world would be empty.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: So it's not that we really have to John, you know, going back to uh the the hote, the population bomb by Ehrlich back in the 60s, 1960s, that we're there's that the that that we're all going to uh uh starve to death, uh a Malthusian uh myth that there's just not enough food.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: That was, you know, Pope Pope uh Paul VI, the first Pope to speak at the United Nations, address that uh issue.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: He said, the problem with the population of the world is not that there's too many people at the table of life, yeah, at the banquet of life.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the problem is to put more food on the table.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: Not to take people away.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: And then we had the green revolution.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: Pretty soon uh India, instead of having to import grain to feed its population, was exporting grain.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: So, no.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Um what does overpopulation really mean?
43:56
SPEAKER_00: It means this that the poor people of the world Don't contribute to the market.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: They don't buy and they don't sell.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: They are useless.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: In fact, they're dangerous.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: And so they're we should they should be eliminated.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: We only need so many street sweepers.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: We only need so many uh uh hotel bellboys.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: The rest are dangerous because they might get jealous and and and become revolutionaries.
44:23
SPEAKER_00: So let's eliminate them.
44:26
SPEAKER_00: Overpopulation simply means you don't contribute to the free market.
44:30
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: Uh, do you think it it it it was also the agenda why the whole beatbacks uh the the pandemic happened to depopulate the words?
44:41
SPEAKER_00: Well, they say there's some evidence that the COVID vaccines had a an especially uh lethal effect on the elderly who again don't contribute to the free markets very well.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: They're no longer uh so much taxpayers as as recipients of Social Security.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: So what good are they?
45:07
SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, it COVID that may have been an ulterior motive in the minds of some of the people that were that politicize the COVID uh hysteria.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: Is uh is it this could be uh a way to uh reduce the population of the world.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: Of course, the Philippines.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: Back when I was here in 1995 and 1996, I knew a good priest who had the vials of uh H uh uh uh anti-uh pregnancy vaccines.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: They were distributed by World Health Organization.
45:45
SPEAKER_08: Oh, wow.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: And uh he uh had uh he had saved three or four of these and had taken them to show that they were laced with anti-HCG, anti-pregnancy uh uh uh and uh uh contaminants.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: World Health Organization said that's all it is, it's just a contamination.
46:07
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't intentional.
46:09
SPEAKER_00: But then the protocol for this particular HI uh I'm sorry, anti-HCG vaccine said that it was to be distributed only to women and only to women of childbearing age.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: This is ridiculous.
46:23
SPEAKER_00: The same HI anti-HCG vaccines were used in Nigeria and African countries as well.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: So, yes, the the desire to use vaccines to curtail the fertility of the world or the population of the world is an agenda that we need to be aware of.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I heard also the effect of newborn vaccine to autism.
46:51
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: And thank goodness that certain um in the United States, this is getting some attention by the the Trump administration.
46:59
SPEAKER_00: It looked at the uh the the correlation between various vaccines and autism in children because there's been a quite a spike in autism in the United States and around the world.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: Um so uh we ha you know uh the the the Center for Disease Control and other uh public agencies in the United States um are aware of uh the counterindications of these vaccines.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: I guess it's it's a judgment call on some of their parts that the incidences are small enough that we can take those risks.
47:35
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's fine if it's not your child that's suffering from autism.
47:40
SPEAKER_00: Um so this is a this it's good to revisit the balance, how shall we say, the benefits versus the harms uh equation of mandatory vaccines.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: Again, for the most part, my wife and I did not vaccinate our children.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: Um and that created problems when they wanted to play uh in sports in high school.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, you have to be vaccinated.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: The only reason our kids could, my daughters could uh participate was that they were so fast.
48:12
SPEAKER_00: They needed they needed them to win the relay races, so they made exceptions and wow.
48:23
SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
48:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I also uh that's after we get married of my wife.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: We learned all these things to pro-life doctors.
48:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so we decided uh our future child will not be vaccinated.
48:37
SPEAKER_02: Beautiful.
48:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, beautiful.
48:38
SPEAKER_00: When we were here in 2008, I believe we met up with uh yes, it was in 2008, we met up with Human Life International physician Renee Boulizar.
48:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: Renee was doing wonderful work with um diffusing the pot overpopulation myth, teaching natural family planning, um, encouraging Filipinos to have more children.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, the world doesn't need less Filipinos, according to Planned Parenthood and the United Nations.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: The world could use more Filipinos.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: It does.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: They make the world a better place.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: They're even in Greenland.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: Even when you put the stones up, you will see Bidifido.
49:23
SPEAKER_00: We are everywhere.
49:25
SPEAKER_00: So we need more Filipinos, not less.
49:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: But sadly, I think the fertility fertility rate now in our country is in critical one point something.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:37
SPEAKER_00: The only continent on the world that hasn't that has a more than a replacement rate is Africa.
49:44
SPEAKER_00: You would think with the teeming masses of Asia, there would be a high fertility rate.
49:49
SPEAKER_00: There isn't.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: China, India, the Philippines, Indonesia, they all have barely, if not below, uh replacement uh uh fertility rates, below 2.1.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: Um in the United States, the indigenous population is well now, well below 2.1, 1.9, I believe.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: Um if it wasn't for uh you know illegal immigrants for the most part coming in and they having children, um, the United States would not have a replacement population.
50:22
SPEAKER_00: Look at what China's doing.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, it used to be when I came here in 1995 and 96, and I went to China as well.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I guess I had a student over there helping uh illegal, you know, children uh conceived illegally to come to birth.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: When I went there, you know, there was a one-child policy.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: But now what is China trying to do?
50:41
SPEAKER_00: Have more children.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: Remember, Singapore had that problem.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: Remember, they used to have stop it too, stop it too, and then their their tiger economy crashed back in the late 80s, and it was like four or more, four or more.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: But you know, government can suppress married couples' desire to have children by disincentivizing it.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: But it's very hard to reincentivize it.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: Um people have children for the government.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: No thank you.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, we'll give you a free house.
51:13
SPEAKER_00: This is what Germany was doing.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: We'll give you a free Germany.
51:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll give you a free house if you have children.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, maybe.
51:20
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it's once you take that um cultural ideal of a large and happy family out of the minds and hearts of people, doing it for economic benefit doesn't really inspire people.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: Let's face it, raising children is hard.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: And if you don't do it for love of God and for, you know, the the example that you were given growing up in a large and loving family, if that's not part of your mind and your heart, doing it so so you get a few more dollars, no thank you.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: So the church needs to continue to inspire people with the gospel.
52:02
SPEAKER_00: Father Paul Marx, who founded Human Life International, said years ago, what does it mean to be, you know, generous, as Humanivite said?
52:11
SPEAKER_00: He said, have one more.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: Have one more child.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: That's all.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: That's being generous.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: Have one more.
52:19
SPEAKER_00: Because people that have that one more for for God, those children are gonna grow up with a good family, with good moral background.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: They will be perhaps those who have become good politicians, good pro-life doctors, good pro-life attorneys, politicians.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: I actually read that all of that in Dr.
52:41
SPEAKER_02: My Dr.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: Taylor Marshall Book Christian Patriot.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: He he mentioned all of this.
52:47
SPEAKER_02: We need more pro-life people to educate these young people right now.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: And uh and there's hope.
52:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, our our our lady, uh, what if she appeared at Chatama, she appears in Rwanda.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: Some say she's appearing in Mejugore right now in Yugoslavia.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: What was Yugoslavia?
53:11
SPEAKER_00: God is still trying to inspire us uh in so many ways to stay faithful to Christ, to stay faithful to the gospel.
53:21
SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: Time is uh of the essence right now.
53:25
SPEAKER_00: One of my uh one of the people I quote in my uh my paper that I'll present this afternoon put it this way: the United States is a house divided that cannot stand divided.
53:35
SPEAKER_00: And he ended up by saying, we will become either all one thing or all the other.
53:43
SPEAKER_00: There will be no halfway measures.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: What we experience right now is halfway.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: We will all become under a, call it what you will, under a some kind of a totalitarian regime, or we will be under a God-inspired, free society.
54:02
SPEAKER_00: John Paul II said, we'll all be one thing or another, a culture of death or a culture of life.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: Well.
54:10
SPEAKER_00: The time is of the essence.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: We will not stay in this limbo, this in-between, a little of this, a little of that for long.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: Think of it geopolitically.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: You have what's left of Christian civilization, the West, the Philippines, that has the remnants of Christian civilization as a hegemon in the world, and you have China.
54:33
SPEAKER_00: The world's oldest totalitarian regime.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: Before the communists was totalitarian from the emperor down.
54:41
SPEAKER_00: There were no human rights in China.
54:42
SPEAKER_00: They're all concessions of the government, and now they are vying to be the world's hegemon.
54:47
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
54:48
SPEAKER_00: We'll all be one thing or the other.
54:51
SPEAKER_00: Not an in-between for long.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Pro Brian, in the Philippines, there is strong pressure from international groups to change law on abortion and contraception.
54:59
SPEAKER_02: So, how should Catholic country respond to this kind of pressure?
55:04
SPEAKER_00: The first time we were here in 1995, Vice Mayor Lito Atianza, I remember attending, he was vice mayor then.
55:12
SPEAKER_00: I remember attending a talk, and he um was speaking about Planned Parenthood.
55:17
SPEAKER_00: And uh, and then he started speaking in in Tagalog rather than English.
55:22
SPEAKER_00: So I said, I said to my wife, what did he say?
55:25
SPEAKER_00: What is he say?
55:26
SPEAKER_00: And he said, tell the Americans to dump their damn condoms in Manila Bay.
55:33
SPEAKER_00: And he referenced a United States secret uh secret document that was made declassified, uh National Security Memorandum NSM 200, which said for the security of United States' military and industrial base, we need to crash the world's population.
55:54
SPEAKER_00: We need to do it in a way that it doesn't look like we are neocolonialists.
55:59
SPEAKER_00: We need to enlist political leaders throughout the world to betray their own country and crash their own country's polit uh population.
56:08
SPEAKER_00: And that's why Leto said, tell the Americans to dump their condoms in Manila Bay.
56:15
SPEAKER_00: The church has a duty to speak out on not just the easily digestible moral teachings of the church.
56:25
SPEAKER_00: Immigration is wrong.
56:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there are certain ways to do immigration policy that are wrong, and there are ways to do it that are right.
56:34
SPEAKER_00: But there's no right and wrong about abortion.
56:37
SPEAKER_00: There's not like a right way to do abortion.
56:39
SPEAKER_00: Right.
56:40
SPEAKER_00: The same on contraception.
56:41
SPEAKER_00: There's no right way to do contraception.
56:44
SPEAKER_00: The church needs its leaders, its priests, its bishops need to be clear on these more difficult, politically incorrect moral teachings to give the common person courage.
56:59
SPEAKER_00: Right.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: Um Benedict, Pope Benedict said that totalitarianism has all the microphones, but he said truth has its own anointing, its own unction.
57:11
SPEAKER_00: And to speak the truth, even without a microphone or a megaphone, has an impact.
57:17
SPEAKER_00: It pierces the heart.
57:19
SPEAKER_00: Whereas all of the loud noise of uh N uh CBS, NBC and so forth is with all the glit and the talking heads, it it eventually just becomes white noise without the power to really touch the heart.
57:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
57:37
SPEAKER_00: The church can still touch the heart of people.
57:40
SPEAKER_00: And it isn't just the priests and the bishops, it's you and me, right?
57:44
SPEAKER_00: It's you and me.
57:45
SPEAKER_00: What you're doing right here and now are touching thousands, tens of thousands of people.
57:52
SPEAKER_00: And maybe, maybe just one or two things that we've shared this afternoon, this morning, will make sense.
58:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, I I I know in my conversion there was a doctor who came in and he spoke, and I respected him.
58:07
SPEAKER_00: And he said, you know, I'm here in this audience, and I know most of you don't care what I have to say, but maybe there's just one person here who will hear what I have to say, and I'm here for that person.
58:21
SPEAKER_00: And that person was me.
58:23
SPEAKER_00: So never doubt that even one, how do they say, to light just one candle, to just witness to just one person your story.
58:33
SPEAKER_05: Amen.
58:34
SPEAKER_00: This is how it's this is how this has changed my life.
58:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, God's never let us down.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: We didn't use contraceptives, we didn't go for COVID, and we're still alive and we're here.
58:46
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
58:46
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for those inspiring uh words, uh Propria.
58:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, I have two NGOs I take to the United Nations, the Society of Catholic Social Scientists and my own, um, International Solidarity and Human Rights Institute.
59:00
SPEAKER_00: I've taken hundreds of students to the United Nations to lobby on behalf of uh authentic human rights.
59:07
SPEAKER_00: I've sent um my organization, and I personally have sent um interns to work at the Holy See embassies to the United Nations in New York City, in uh Geneva, Switzerland, and in Vienna, Austria.
59:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, these young people have made significant differences.
59:26
SPEAKER_00: For instance, in uh night in 2006, one of my students, Andrea was her first name, spoke at the United Nations Conference on Disabilities, persons with disabilities.
59:40
SPEAKER_00: And she herself was suffering from multiple sclerosis.
59:43
SPEAKER_00: And she said, you know, the doctors didn't give me uh a year to live when I was born.
59:48
SPEAKER_00: And here I am now addressing the United Nations, and I support um Qatar's language, supported by the Holy See, that persons with disabilities deserve the right to food and water, nutrition and hydration.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
1:00:06
SPEAKER_00: Her comment, that one student that I brought to the United Nations changed the outcome, changed the voting.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_00: Until that time, the um disabilities uh caucus uh was not supporting the pro-life language.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_00: But after she spoke, they came up to her and said, You've convinced us.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_00: And and food and water became a basic right of persons with disabilities in the United Nations Treaty on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities as a result of that.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_00: The struggle that the United Nations regarding sexual and reproductive rights, regarding gender identity, is in their mind a transversal, cross-cutting theme.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_00: The uh sustainable, the the sustainable goals that the United Nations puts out there, 17 of them, none of them can exist or be can be implemented unless we have contraception, abortion, euthanasia, and transgender ideology.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_00: Those are so key that you cannot eliminate poverty without them.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_00: You cannot eliminate maternal mortality without them, you cannot educate people without them.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_00: It's not the church that has, how shall we call it, the sometimes the church is criticized for being all about morality below the belt.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_00: It's the United Nations that thinks of nothing but sexual and reproductive rights.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_00: Every document is there.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_00: And this is where um the nation states can make a difference.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_00: Sending good pro-life delegates to the United Nations from the Philippines would be helpful.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_00: There's a title, a tide, a title change when the United States has a conservative president and appoints a conservative representative to the United Nations that denies that the there is such a thing as an international right to abortion versus those that come from a more liberal administration that say, oh yes, we believe that properly understood these documents support the right to abortion, etc.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_00: So the United Nations in the eyes of the church is very important.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_00: It's not merely hot air, as so many people in the United States say.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_00: The United Nations is just a bunch of people letting off steam.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, they are.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_00: And that's better than letting off bombs.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_00: But on the other hand, the United Nations does create international customary law, soft law, not treaties, not only treaties, but all of these hot air white papers create precedent.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_00: This is how civilized nations behave.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_00: And if you don't behave as a civilized nation, but as a rogue nation, then we can defund you.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is pretty much how we approached the war criminals at the end of World War II in Nuremberg.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_00: We couldn't really say that they were they had violated treaties.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_00: There were no treaties that said you couldn't kill your own people.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_00: The word genocide hadn't even been invented yet.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_00: What they had to say is civilized nations don't behave this way.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna hang you.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what's the what what what what's the outcome with uh former President Duarte, where he's off in uh off in The Hague, and the International Criminal Court has him uh you know holding him as a prisoner for, I suppose, crimes against humanity.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh do you think uh bodies like ICC sometimes sometimes go beyond proper authority or interfere with country sovereignty?
1:03:52
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they do, of course.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_00: Um United Nations, um, the the treaties that have been enacted, they don't specify and mention abortion per se, for the most part.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_00: In fact, they hardly they hardly reference it at all.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_00: But the special rapporteurs that evaluate a uh, especially developing nations, say that, well, you know, uh you need to have sexual and reproductive rights, you need to have um contraceptives available.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_00: And if you don't, why um, how shall we say?
1:04:23
SPEAKER_00: This could affect um uh our uh funding uh through the World Bank for your country's uh sustenance.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_00: And so there's a lot of pressure put indirectly through special rapporteurs and uh interpreting the meaning of uh a United Nations document.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_00: Again, going back to the the uh the assembly, the convention that drafted the rights of persons with disabilities.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't me, but one of my colleagues asked the uh uh person from the secretariat, uh I'm sorry, could we have a definition of a disability?
1:05:03
SPEAKER_00: And uh the chair said, No, there's no definition.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_00: You said, in other words, it's left purposefully vague so that these special rapporteurs can then give their own interpretation of what that language means.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_00: And that's how, in the name of uh, you know, the Convention on Population and Development, we say that you can't develop uh uh properly your economy unless you have mandatory uh unless you legalize abortion, and therefore we will put economic pressure on you by not granting you um funding.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_00: This is a misinterpretation of the intention of the United Nations, at least the General Assembly.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_00: And it's a it's perpetrated um by um a global agenda that wants to see the Population of the world diminished because it's a threat to wor to their hegemony.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_00: It's a threat to their economic security.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_00: Little people all over the world, what they need is not contraceptives and uh abortion vacuum suction machines.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_00: What they need is potable water.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_00: Blood banks, they need basic medical and healthful infrastructure.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_00: That's the real unmet need, not more contraceptives, not more uh abortion aspirators.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_02: And if you could leave one strong message for Filipino families and young people watching this interview, what would it be?
1:06:41
SPEAKER_00: One of the things that um uh if I was uh looking to find a spouse, a husband or a wife, I would uh one of the questions I would ask my potential spouse was show me a rosary.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_00: Show me a rosary.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you don't have a rosary.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't think I want another date.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_00: Because life is tough.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_00: And the y and if you are a believer, a faithful Catholic, and you marry someone who's not, what's what what where do you go when you get into an argument?
1:07:22
SPEAKER_00: You don't have that let's say the rosary.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_00: Maybe you know, I don't agree with you, you don't agree with me, let's pray let's pray about it.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_00: You can't say that.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_00: So one of the ways to keep the faith is not to do what you might call missionary dating.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_00: I'll date this person in the hope that they'll become a good Catholic.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_00: No.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_00: Look, try again.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_00: Go to the Legion of Mary, maybe you'll meet somebody there, like I met my wife.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh that's one thing.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_00: Um and in families, uh our lady at Metagore, her main message is peace.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_00: If there is feuding in your family, I don't care if you all pray the rosary, but if you're still fighting with each other and bearing grudges, forgive each other.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_00: Forgive each other.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_00: Even if it's not your fault, make up.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_00: Because wars begin in the hearts of people.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_00: From the hearts of people it goes into family, and from family it goes into society, and from society it goes amongst nations.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_00: Do like Mother Teresa said, do something beautiful for God.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_00: Smile at somebody.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_00: Do something beautiful for God.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_00: Forgive your brother or your sister or your mother or your father.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_00: Move on.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_00: For God's sake, for the sake of peace in the world, let it begin with you.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_02: That's powerful and soul-striking for Brian.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_02: Why you love being Catholic?
1:08:58
SPEAKER_00: I love being Catholic because it assures me that God knows me and loves me.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_02: Amen.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_00: That the Blessed Mother knows me personally by name.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_00: And she is here watching and guiding me, bringing me to her son.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_00: It it it gives me the confidence that I'm really attract loved by God.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean in uh in the Passion of Christ that Mel Gibson created, remember?
1:09:34
SPEAKER_00: There's that scene where that uh uh Simon uh Cyrene he doesn't want to carry the cross.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah and you know a in a Christ's one uh Jesus' one eye is black and blue, he can't even open it.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_00: But with his other eye, he looks at Simon and Simon melts.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_00: He has a conversion.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_00: That's a powerful scene, yeah.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_00: Pope Leo I'm sorry, Pope uh Pope Benedict said when you see Christ looking at you saying I need you that melts your heart.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_00: You need me.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_00: He basically says, if not you, who?
1:10:22
SPEAKER_00: The first time I went to the United Nations, I showed up with a motley group of a couple professors, a couple students, somebody with a camera, somebody with this, a microphone, somebody and I looked around and the the pro-life groups were less organized.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_00: And I go, Oh my goodness.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_00: We just showed up here for the first time, and we're more we're we're we're more organized than everybody that's here.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh God, I feel sorry for you.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_00: When you feel sorry for God, that's his word to you.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_00: Get going.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_00: He needs you.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_00: Like he needs you doing this radio program.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: Amen.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for that affirmation.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm touched by your message.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: And what do you want us to pray for you and to your family?
1:11:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, um just as I I asked, um, I suggested that everyone pray for peace in the family.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes, please pray for peace in our family too.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_00: Eat you know, uh God, you know, there we're none of us are um insulated from um as you prayed in this in the beginning of your radio show, where none of us are protected from um the machinations of the evil spirits.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_00: The devil doesn't stop at the at the you know the door of the church, he comes right in.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_00: And um so pray for peace in our family.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_00: Um anybody feels like saying a quick Hail Mary, pray that my talk this afternoon goes well.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_00: Sure, sure.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_00: And mostly pray um that we get to come back to the Philippines again.
1:11:57
unknown: Yeah.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_00: For sure, for sure.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we would like to uh, you know, my wife was here for her 50th high school reunion in Cebu, St.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_00: Teresa's College.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_00: And she saw her Theresian friends who hadn't seen them in 50 years.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_00: And um we uh we love the Philippines, we love its culture, it's uh its openness to to relationships.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's centered in Christ's culturally, it is.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_00: And uh so we'd like to come back again.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_02: Well, we we would love to, yeah.
1:12:35
unknown: Thank you.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Perov, Brian.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_02: And uh where our viewers can find your work.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_00: Um well, I have a I have uh a webpage.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_00: It's uh for International Solidarity and Human Rights Institute.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, it's uh there's there's a webpage for that.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_00: I also have a webpage for um human ecology, uh a way to reinvigorate the natural law.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_00: And and one of my articles is up on that on that webpage.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_00: It's called Ven Ohio, like Vino, like wine in Italian, Vino, V-I-N-O, H-I-O.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_00: Um Vino, Ohio.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh my book uh that I wrote um some years ago on bioethics and law is called just that uh Bioethics, Law and Human Life Issues.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_00: It's published by um uh Scarecrow Press as an imprimatur.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_00: Um it deals with um all the five major life issues.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_00: There's more, but there's a contraception, abortion, euthanasia, in vitro fertilization, and marriage and family.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_00: Um and it looks at it from the perspective of Catholic morality and the law.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_00: So there's that book.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_00: And um, if anybody would like to um perhaps visit the United Nations, my organization might be able to get them an internship.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_00: So there's um there's that.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_00: They would need to be a good Catholic because uh Holy See mission to the United Nations, um, they their staff goes to Mass every day.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
1:14:23
SPEAKER_00: Um they would need to be somewhat familiar with the Catholic Church's uh uh social doctrine and moral moral theology.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_00: A little bit of that would be important.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_00: Um but I'd be happy to help them.
1:14:37
SPEAKER_02: Wow, yeah, absolutely, for and I will just include all this uh information in the description or somewhere here.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_02: So thank you so much, Prop Brian, from this uh for this wonderful interview.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_02: And I learn a lot from your from your wisdom and very inspiring in everything that you shared here that will boost our Catholic faith and especially this moral issue that we're facing on on life and family and even in the church.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_02: Thank you for sounding the alarm.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean fighting courageously.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh we need this.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_02: We need you, uh, a person like you.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_00: Well, Adrian, we need people, we need we need you.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_00: And and we we I hope that the your listeners contribute to your broadcast that it has an even greater distribution and greater um uh coverage around uh the Philippines and thank you on Southeast Asia for that.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_02: Thank you, prof.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_02: And before I ask you to forfryers, I just want to give you this gift.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh thank you.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_02: Could you open it?
1:15:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh Prof.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes, absolutely.
1:15:46
SPEAKER_02: Um uh it's from Matter Day Rosary.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_02: It's a handcrafted rosary.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_00: Oh my! Oh, is this beautiful?
1:15:55
SPEAKER_00: Look at this.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_00: My wife, take it.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_00: She's here with me, by the way.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_00: My oh, look at that.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_00: There's the Saint Benedict Medal in this beautiful handcrafted rosary with the gorgeous uh crucifix corpus of Christ.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's been blessed.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_00: And not yet.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh then we'll also maybe this afternoon.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh Aquino.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes, uh, he'll uh and our lady are Guadalupe here in the in the centerpiece.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_00: And the the beads are made of the beads, what are they made of?
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: Um I'm not familiar, but uh created precious snow.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_02: Wow, yeah, it and it's it has pouch, uh your name on it.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_00: The pouch says, Brian, I am with you always.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_00: It's a nice Mother Mary blue.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_00: It has uh an insignia of the of uh uh her first initial M with uh rosary and a rosary around uh the the the insignia.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_00: There's also uh uh message here how to pray the rosary and Saint Joseph.
1:16:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh we love Saint Joseph.
1:16:59
SPEAKER_00: Amen.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_00: Well you like it.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh, very much so, very much so.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, thank you, uh Adrian.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_00: You are a scholar and a gentleman.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_02: Thank you, thank you so much.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_02: And every time you see it, uh you remember me uh your prayers in my family.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_02: Until we meet again.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_02: Yes, bro.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_00: This um next year, same time, same place.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_02: Thank you, and could you close us with a prayer?
1:18:03
SPEAKER_00: In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_00: Holy Spirit, guide us as we go through our daily duties.
1:18:13
SPEAKER_00: May we do all that we do for love of Christ.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_00: We ask the prayers of the Blessed Mother, Saint Joseph, her spouse, and all the angels and saints to keep us free from the attacks of the evil ones and to guide us in the ways of peace.
1:18:28
SPEAKER_00: The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_00: He maketh me to lie down in green pastures, he leadeth me beside the still waters, he restoreth my soul, he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_00: Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_00: For thou art with me, thy rod and thy staff they give me comfort.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_00: Thou art thou per anointest my head with oil, my cup overflows.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_00: Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
1:19:09
SPEAKER_00: Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_00: Amen.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_02: Of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_02: Amen.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much, Prop Brian, for this wonderful and inspiring interview.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_02: And rest assured, rest assured of our prayers and support to you.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_02: It's been an honor.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_02: Bye-bye.
1:19:34
unknown: God bless.
1:19:38
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