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I Have No Time · The Perfect RIA

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Jamie Shilanski: You will never in your life have more time to
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do something than you do right now. Welcome back TPR nation.
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This is Jamie Shilanski, an episode of Worlds to Conquer,
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and we are going to be talking about really important question
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that our podcast curator brought to my attention from one of our
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members here at The Perfect Ria. And they have been talking to
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Amber and said, You know what, I have a really hard time
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attending professional development and going to
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conferences. I'm worried about engaging, renewing memberships
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and doing all of these different things in the professional
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development networking side, because where we are at in the
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stage of our lives right now is we are raising our kids, and
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when I leave town, when I dedicate myself to professional
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development and continuing education, it really hard on my
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wife. Lord Almighty, do I not understand better than most, how
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difficult it is to be raising a family, doing things pause,
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trying to get ahead in your career and get certain
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licensing, continuing education development, go to networking,
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go to conference, events that you're always looking for. What
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can I give up? What can I not commit to in order to make it
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easier for whoever is at home. And so I have one child, but we
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were instrumental in raising my nephew and niece. And my nephew
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is the same age as my child, and my niece is four years older. So
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oftentimes we would have them. We would definitely have them
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Friday, Saturday and Sunday during the school year. But then
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intermittently, we would have my niece also, unexpectedly, you
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know, probably three to four nights a week we would have her
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plus, at that particular time, my mom and dad were building a
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property out in big lake Alaska, and needed a lot of help. On the
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weekends, there was a commitment to those type of projects. And
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then, in addition to that, during all of this, my spouse's
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brother ended up moving in with us for a little while not to be
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of help in this capacity, but instead, because he needed a
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little bit of help getting back on his feet in life. So there's
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always these familial obligations. There's always
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these things tugging, eroding, eating away at our time. And
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often, if you are a lot like me, if you are very empathetic to
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the person that you are in a relationship with, you are
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trying to look at ways to mitigate their stress. You're
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trying to reduce how much burden you put on them. And I see this
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a lot when it comes to attending conferences. And people say,
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Well, you know, what? Do you have a virtual event? Can I
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stream that online? Can I just tune in and watch it as a
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webinar? Are you guys going to record this session and I can go
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back and watch it at my leisure. Now, I'm not a big fan of doing
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that, of having recorded sessions, or attending webinars,
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or doing things like that, streaming online, because I
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don't think that you get the same level of engagement. I
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don't think that you show up you as the as the person
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participating, as an audience member, with the same level of
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commitment that you would have if you were physically there in
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person. But what do you do when you're being pulled two
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different directions? What happens when you know that it
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would be so good for your network and your growth as a
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financial advisor to be attending some type of
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conference or professional development event, but at the
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same time, you have all of this guilt because you're going to be
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leaving somebody else saddled up with all the responsibilities at
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home, and that could be animals, that could be kids, that could
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be parents, that could be volunteer work, that could be
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church commitments, whatever it is that is pulling at your Time
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and taking you away from being able to dedicate yourself to
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growing in your career. Well, guess what? Most people you meet
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have some other responsibilities outside of their career. You're
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probably not unique in that capacity. The difference is,
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those people are showing up to advance their career, because
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they know that where they want to get to, who they want to
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become, has to start somewhere, and it has to start some time.
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You can keep putting off events, and you can keep saying, You
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know what, when the kids get in school, I'll go when the kids
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graduate from school, I'll go when my mom and dad, you know,
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move into assisted living, or maybe need a little less help.
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God forbid, the Lord take them away too early, and then I'll be
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able to dedicate myself to my career. Life doesn't happen that
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way. I've I've never been around where, you know, one year seems
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a lot slower than any other year before. Now what I have
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experienced is looking back and saying, my goodness, I had no
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idea how much time I had then compared to where I am today.
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And if you share that experience, if you share looking
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back through that glass with me and say, You know what, I
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thought I had no time, but I had all the time in the world a few
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years ago, I could have been doing this. I should have been
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doing this because now my plate and my cup, they run it over,
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and I have no idea how I'm going to get it all done. Then let's
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talk about how some of the top advisors out there are still
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elevating their careers without sacrificing their family time
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and commitments. Because one thing that we are really, really
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big on here at The Perfect RIA, in our pursuit of developing a
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perfect investment advisory firm, is making sure that we
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don't keep saying we are doing this for the people that we love
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the most in the world, and then all of our actions contradicting
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that sentiment, and for us, that means being hyper intentional
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with our time. Hyper intentional with our time. So we normally
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plan out by October, we have all of the following year mapped out
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for us. So what does this look like? Well, by September, I've
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already asked my executive assistants I want the next year
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as a wall calendar printed down. Our surge schedule is decided by
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October, 1 of this year for the following year. Now, most of the
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time our surge schedule says pretty good cadence. So let's
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talk a little bit about that. So surge, you already know, is a
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specific time block, period of time and which you are doing
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nothing but back to back, meeting with clients and
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delivering massive value. Now actually, landscape associates
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are a up and Anchorage Alaska, our surge schedule runs, we have
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two big surges, and then we have many surges. So I'm going to
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talk first about the big two surges, and then we're going to
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go into those minis. So our first big surge of the year is
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March 1, and that's going to last until tax day into April
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15. So it's about six weeks of surgery now in that big surge,
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and we call it the biggest surge of our year, because this is
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when we are the most strategic about going and getting
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information from our clients. We asked for every single document
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that we have longed for all year long. And guess what? Got a
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really high success ratio of getting those documents from
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clients. And why? Why are we so successful in getting
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documentation on financial plans during the month of March and
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April, because it's tax time. And guess what? Mode most
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clients are in. They are in the hunting and gathering stages of
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getting their documentation, getting their financial affairs
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in order. And so they will be going out and they will be
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downloading 1099 they will getting paid pay stubs. They'll
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be looking at employee benefits. They will be seeing how much
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they contributed to FSA HSAs. They'll be pulling how much
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mortgage they have left on their house for their 1098. They are
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in massive hunter gatherer mode for financial documents, and
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this is a great time to ask them to send our office a copy of
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them now, inch landscape associates, we do not currently
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prepare client income tax returns. We did it for a few
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years. It became incredibly laborious for us, so we ended up
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outsourcing a lot of our clients tax returns to our partners over
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at retirement tax services. They work exclusively with financial
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planners, and you want to hire their tax professional team to
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do your clients taxes. You have to be a member of the retirement
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tax services because that's their exclusive relationship.
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One thing that they do a lot different than most senior firms
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is they want to work with the financial advisor. And so what
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this means for me specifically is if we've got a big red flag
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on a tax return, and let's just say that the client owes more
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than $25,000 so all of a sudden we know we have a $50,000
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liability. Instead of calling the client the CPA saying, My
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god, did you know that your idiot financial advisor caused
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you to have a $50,000 tax liability because they did a
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massive Roth conversion, instead that CPA calls me and says, Hey,
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Jamie, I was just working on Bob and Sue's income tax. I'm sure
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you're already aware, but they're going to around $1,000
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this year from the Roth conversion before we reach out
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to them with the tax return. This excellent opportunity for
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you to remind them how we're going to satisfy that tax bill
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totally take the home run, and to call them and say,
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Congratulations Mr. Mrs. Client, because you were so forward
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thinking and doing this amazing Roth conversion, we're finishing
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up the tax return with your CPA. They're going to get everything
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finalized to you. Hey, just as reminder, don't forget that we
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had talked several times about this tax bill that we're going
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to have, and here's how we're going to pay for that. So when
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you get that giant return, make sure that you notify our office
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and we'll get that estimated payment right. out, or that
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payment burned out to the IRS. And the guy who's like, Oh my
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God, thank you so much, I would have freaked out. If I had seen
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that big bill, and I didn't know. So, when I tell you, March
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and April, was an excellent time to search. March and April is an
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excellent time to search. surge is amazing for us. So then we
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come out, and then we do our next surge is going to be during
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the October, November time frame.
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So we're going to start it somewhere around the first week
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of October, and we're going to end right before Thanksgiving.
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And the main concentration for October November is going to be
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estate planning. And I love talking to clients about estate
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planning beneficiary designations, kind of reviewing
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the net worth reports, if we need to, and making sure that
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we're making all the changes in their employee benefit plans if
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necessary during that time frame. Why? Because a couple of
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things on the calendar are working in my favor. One, open
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enrollment for a lot of employer agencies is in the month of
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November. And so we make all of those reviews. We make all the
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changes we look at all the income and cash flow employee
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benefit plan on that side, I also love talking to clients
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they planning during October, November. Why? Because the
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holidays are right around the corner, and there is no greater
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reminder that you want to make changes to your estate planning
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when you bring your entire family together under one roof
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and go, I am not leaving you all my money making some changes
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right away. This is what estate planning attorneys tell you they
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are. The busiest is October, November, December of every
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single year. So we like to coincide the schedule with that.
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Now, outside of that, we do mini surges. And mini surges are for
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about one week every single month. When we first started
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doing this, we thought about just doing like a June, July,
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August, big surge, kind of like how we do so we're meeting with
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the clients three times a year. We discovered that that was too
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infrequent. And what that meant was not because of our clients
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found that it was too infrequent, but instead, what we
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discovered was our team was super, super uncomfortable
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saying, Mr. Mrs. Client, you scheduled for an appointment
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April. Jamie doesn't have another availability until
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September. Would you like to schedule your appointment? So
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like everything we do, we listen to our team at Shaleen, see us
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for feedback. What's working, what's not working, what's
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working for clients, but maybe isn't working for you. So
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clients didn't have we had a couple of clients that that
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really didn't like how long it took to get in for an
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appointment when we were running that schedule, and it made our
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team members just feel uncomfortable. They didn't like
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the response of saying there was no availability. So we sat down
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and we looked at the calendar and said, Okay, you know what?
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There's 30 days in the month. Do you need all 30? Nope, I don't
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need all 30 to make appointments. Great. Do you need
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three weeks? Nope, I think three weeks is too long. Do you need
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two weeks? You know what? And we start off with two weeks, and
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then as we progressed went down, they said, You know what, I
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think I only need one week. I need one week to know that
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clients can make an appointment, you can return phone calls, and
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we can concentrate on that is a wonderful and so we open up
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those mini search times. Now, are they always full? Maybe,
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maybe not? Depends. We also put prospects in those mini search
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times. So if we get hired by somebody in March, you know, we
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don't want to wait until October to do the planning, so we might
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bring them right back in during the month of May, and do a lot
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of mini surges inside of there, getting those second, third and
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fourth appointments. So we're really hyper intentional about
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our time. So as I've got my wall calendar out in front of me, and
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I block out all of my surge schedule, then I want to start
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my conference planning. That becomes the next layer of this.
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And so then I'm looking a year and ahead and saying, all right,
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what events do I want to attend. What professional development do
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I want to be a part of? Now here's the important part of it.
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I am not somebody that's a conference junkie. I think
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somebody who was telling me, I think it was Matt Jarvis, maybe
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it was Steven. He was telling me that kids is attended something
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like 34 conferences a year, physically, in person, not
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stream. Went there and attended them. No way, no how. I
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appreciate that vigor. I can't I could not imagine committing to
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that, but I know that I want to do one a quarter. And so two of
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these, I tried to make it live. So the first two out of two of
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those quarters, I'll try to go somewhere and be in person for a
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couple of days and attend those events. The other two, I might
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take a course online. I might do some other professional
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development in that capacity, but I want to mix it up with at
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least four ways that I'm educated and elevating myself.
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And so when I go to somebody, when I'm going in person, I'm
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blocking out that time, and I'm looking at the calendar, and I'm
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planning on where these trips are going to be. Now if you have
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ever noticed conferences always take some type of like, I don't
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know who does all the conference planning out there, but they
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always seem to be in similar locations. So for a while,
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everything was in Vegas, then then it was Arizona, and then it
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was in Nashville for a while, and and so all of these
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conferences tend to, oh, yes, of course, Austin. So go into these
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habits of every single year we're going to go to this
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location, this area, and so what I'll do is, after get my
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conference is mapped out, and block out my time of what I'm
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going to do my professional development, I will loot my
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spouse in and I will say, okay, great, let's talk about family
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trips. These are the times I cannot go because my work comes
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as the priority. I don't put the family trips ahead of my work
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schedule. Because guess what? My work schedule pays for the
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family trips, guys, it pays for the family trips. And so I must
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prioritize being able my number one responsibility is to provide
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for my family. And I provide for my family by taking care of my
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clients and running the businesses as I'm supposed to be
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running them. And so I'll say, here's all of the weeks I cannot
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do anything, I cannot commit to anything, because I'm dedicated
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towards client time, and I'm get educated towards many surges.
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And so then here's my time. I got to have professional
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development. Would you like to go on any one of these trips? My
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spouse loves to dirt bike. Big dirt biker hates to travel, but
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loves to dirt bike. Well, we live in Alaska, so guess what?
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You cannot dirt bike all year long. So sometimes, if I'm
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attending a conference in a winter state, they might tag
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along with me and do one or two days of some type of dirt biking
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or skill training. Hi, we'll hire a coach in that particular
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area, and they'll get a scratch that itch in that way. Why I go
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do something now, here's my plan. In doing that, when that
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occurs, I make sure that during the days of the conference,
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they're busy with an activity, that way I'm not getting blown
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up about what time are you done? Can we have lunch together? Can
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we go get, you know, dinner, or When are we meeting back up?
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Their day is filled with occupation, and I want my day
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filled of occupation, so then that way, because a lot of times
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what I'll see at conferences is people be like, Oh, I'm gonna go
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meet my wife. I'm gonna go meet my spouse. Now I would much
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rather have lunch with my spouse than anyone else at a
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conference, but I am supposed to be there to network and to
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mingle and to listen to ideas. And sometimes the ideas don't
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come from the keynote address. They don't come from the
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breakout rooms. They come from just chit chatting with people
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and hearing one or two ideas, or learning about what people are
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doing different, or what they're going to change in their
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practices, or where they're at, what's working, what didn't
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work. So that I can take that back home and implement it, and
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then what I'll do on days that my conference does attend is
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will plan to stay two days after that event. I am a big believer,
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if your conference wraps up Friday at noon, don't you dare
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catch a two o'clock flight out of town. You need to stay one
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more day at that conference, and you need to pound out all of the
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ideas that you are buzzing about before rushing back to town. So
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many times, people feel guilty about being gone, and so they're
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in a hurry to get back home. But the problem is, you get back
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home and you're not really there, because mentally, you're
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thinking about all of the things that you just learned and you
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want to get done. So instead, give yourself the extra two or
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four hours to stay at that venue. Pound out all of your
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information, outline things. I mean, I will write email
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campaigns. I will do marketing events. I will change policies
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and processes. I will record loom videos for our team. I will
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do all of the research and get all of this brain dump out of my
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head. Now, Jamie, I can do that on the airplane. Oh, okay. Well,
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I live probably the furthest away from most conferences,
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being in Alaska, and I will do a significant amount of work on
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the airplane, but I won't have done all of it. I will not have
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done all of it because travel gives us different you know,
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opportunities for testing our patients, like, is the flight
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delayed?
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Is it on time? Do you have internet? Do you have not
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internet? Are you sitting next to a super chatty person? Is
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there a screaming baby? Do you not feel good? Are you tired all
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of the things? So I would rather prioritize. I already went
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through the effort. I already paid all this money to attend a
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venue. Why am I not then implementing all the ideas that
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I just learned about? So that's a big hack of mine. Now, if my
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spouse is with me, we'll stay one or two extra days after that
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happens after that decompression, and go do
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something fun together. And so it becomes a trip as well as an
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education event. If my spouse is not with me, then after I've
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decompressed and I got all my ideas and information out, then
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I'll go ahead and take off and go back home, because I want to
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be with my spouse. I want to be back home. I love being back
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home, but I also want to be really intentional about my
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time, because if you've attended a conference and you come back
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home and and you're just kind of annoyed, because now you're
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you're dealing with all of the household obligations. Now
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you're dealing with all the household things that need your
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attention, and you're mentally somewhere else, well, that's not
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balance. That's not a good way to show up. And it took me a
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long time to realize that, because my spouse ended up
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coming to me one time and saying, Hey, if you're not going
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to be here, then don't care yet. If you're not going to
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physically and mentally be present with us, then don't come
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home yet. Because when you come home, we're really excited to
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see you, and we're really excited to share with you
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everything that's happened and to hear about your trip, but if
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you're thinking of a million other things and you're there
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instead of here, then don't come home yet. Take that extra time
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so that when you are here, you're present. And that was a
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really good slap in the face. That was because I felt obliged
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to hurry up and get back home, but didn't realize getting home
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was costing my family when I wasn't decompressing, when I
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wasn't getting all these ideas out, when I wasn't showing up
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and returning back home fully present. So make sure you have a
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good balance about that. All right, let's talk about some of
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the tricks and hacks that I have learned over the years because
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because it's hard when you want to attend these professional
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development stuff and you want to grow, but you feel so bad
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because you know it's causing so much stress on your spouse, on
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your parents, on all these other people because you're not there
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to help balance. All right. So let's talk about those puppies,
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those puppies that we treat like children. So if you've got
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puppies and you feel that you know that you are one of the
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caregivers, and it puts too much responsibility on the other one
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at home, super easy. Hire someone to walk them, find a
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doggy daycare, take them their vet, get them their regular
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shots before they go to those places, and have them go to a
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doggy daycare during the day. It exhausts the puppy, it's good
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socialization for them, and it takes a world of trouble off of
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your spouse. Now let's talk about the real children, the one
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with hopefully two legs. All right, so when it comes to the
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kids, you know, one of the things that I see a lot of
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financial advisors start to happen is once they once they
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get their career going, they become a single income
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household, and single income household with multiple
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children. And so then we've got multiple sporting programs,
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school programs, bedtime routines, and it's a lot to have
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to juggle as a single parent. And so what I like to do here is
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I want to make sure that we've provided enough support in
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different capacities. And here's what that means. Sometimes, even
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if your parent is a stay at home parent, if the spouse is a stay
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at home parent, then looking at outside resources to help you
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know neighborhood kids that can come over for two to four hours
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out of the afternoon, just so that one spouse can get a break,
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go to the grocery store, get laundry done, entertain the
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kids, whatever that looks like, maybe a part time nanny. I've
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seen that in a lot of capacities. So then that way, if
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you've got four kids, two of them are little, the nanny is
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staying home with to the two little ones, and you're going to
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the sporting gimbins with the two older ones, looking at some
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type of assistance. Now, if that's not fitting of your
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lifestyle, that's not something that you want to accommodate.
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There are other things that you can do that are of significant
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value, like bringing in somebody to help clean the house, even if
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you have a stay at home parent, bringing somebody in to help
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clean and take care of the property and do all of that, if
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that is yard work, if that is housework, if that is laundry,
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services, grocery delivery, I am the sole cooker and our family,
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so I make all of the food. My spouse often tells me that they
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were long capable of making food before they met me, evidence I
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have yet to see, but they are still alive, so clearly doing
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something. But what I like to do before I go on a trip like that,
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because I don't want to hear about it is I will make one or
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two meals ahead of time. I will make sure that there's food that
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they know how to cook inside of the house, and I'll stock the
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house with groceries. And then the second thing that I like to
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do, especially if I'm at a longer venue, so if I'm going to
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be gone for a week, is right in the middle of the week, I'll
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just have a meal delivered. I will just be like, Hey, I know
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you're holding down the fort. Thank you so much for supporting
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me, and I'm going to have food delivered, and I make sure that
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my EA, Instacart, DoorDash, all those things make it incredibly
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easy to do that, but if not, my EA has got my back, and she's
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watching out for that as well. And we make sure it's taken care
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of. So doing those little things of what, what do you do in the
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house that now becomes really the responsibility of one
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individual ahead of time, and then how can you mitigate that?
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How can you find all of these little services that we have
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available to help that person feel a little supported during
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your absence? Now, another big thing that I like to do with my
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spouse already mentioned that I roll out that wall calendar, and
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we look at all of the client appointment dates, then we look
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at the Education dates, and then we put our family trips on. This
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is we have great conversations when we do our year in planning
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together, and we talk a lot about like, hey, what do you
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want to learn next year? What goals do you have for the next
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five years? What are we accomplishing? We're both really
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big into learning. And so what do we want to learn about? What
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do we want to have more information on what do we see
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this going and I will sit down, and I will talk to my spouse,
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and they'll tell me about what they want to learn. And then
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they also have begun to ask, what businesses are you thinking
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of doing? What? How many businesses will you be owning
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next year? Because I have interest in several different
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companies, and they also know that that's going to take up a
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lot of my time. And so if I do a new business, if I do a new
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obligation that takes away some of my family time, and we have
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balanced conversations about that. I had this killer business
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that I sat down, I was just giving the person advice, and
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then because they had a couple of questions about how to get
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started, and then by the end of the conversation, they said,
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Hey, would you be my business partner? Like, if I gave you
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half a stake of equity in the company, would you come in and
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do this and let me do the service that I know how to do
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best, and you run the business? And I said, you know, I'm not
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sure. Let me sit down and talk to my spouse about it. And we
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looked over it, and we, we've kind of got this. I have an
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ethos for how I engage in other organizations, and I have a
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checklist, like, hey, this one has to be doing this. This one
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has to be doing that before I take on any anything else. And
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we looked at it and we said, You know what, I'm kind of in an
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okay spot. And they said, but you know what, we really want to
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travel and do a couple of other things. I'd love to go fishing.
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I'd love to go camping a little bit more this summer. And if you
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take that on, we're not going to be able to do that. And I said,
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You're right. And so I passed where, conversely, sometimes I
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sit down and say, Hey, this is what it takes, and this is a
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month that is going to obligate me. And they said, You know
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what, I'm super busy in my career at that time. So if
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you're occupied doing that, I have no objections whatsoever.
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And so we have those conversations. And if I say,
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Hey, I'm going to go and do this. This is what it means for
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us to achieve that goal. Then we're coming at it together as a
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team, and then they're also having a voice and a say. But
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guess what that means? I have to listen. I don't always like to
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listen to the voice and the say, but that's part of making sure
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that nobody's resentful when we are leveling up, when we are
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committing ourselves to go to different educational things,
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and when we're goal setting, you know, sometimes we'll have
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really big goals, and I'll say, Hey, if you know, for example,
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if we want to buy that motorhome, that means that I
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have to do X, Y and Z, are we both committed to that? Because
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that's going to take me out of the house. And if I'm out of the
27:06
house, that means that this, this, and this is going to fall
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on you. Yep, I'm on board 100% and then we have an agreement,
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or I get to hear, no, I'm sorry. I've got my own things going on.
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That's too much time away. I really need you to be here
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during that period TPR nation. I would love to sit here and tell
27:23
you that there's going to be a perfect time in your career that
27:27
you could attend all the professional development you can
27:30
make, all the advancements in the world, and that it's going
27:33
to get easier. But guess what? It just doesn't. Because after
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your kids are grown, your parents are probably going to
27:40
start needing some help. You're going to have other things going
27:43
on in your life. God forbid, you have an empty nest syndrome
27:47
happening in the household, and that's really difficult, because
27:50
when you're raising your babies, those littles, your focus as two
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parents and a household, one thing survival of raising those
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children, but when they go out on their own and they become
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adults, the two of you have to refine each other. You have to
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refined each other and figure out what that means to be
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together and independent when nothing else is taking up the
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focus of all of your time, you never have more time than what
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you do right now. So order the wall calendar. Map out search.
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Map out your conferences. Have those conversations with your
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spouse. Figure out what needs to happen when you are gone. Make
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it okay for you to continue to learn. to get where you need to
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be in your career. TPR nation. This is Jamie Shilanski, episode
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of Worlds to Conquer. Go find people who share your values and
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change the world.