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What's up with that fin thingy!? | A Star Citizen call-in show · Open Comms Radio | A Star Citizen call-in show

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  The thing is though, now that you say that, I can't see it.
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  You're absolutely right. After we're claiming, let's
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  let's talk about that first. Because I was going to go in a
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  totally. Different direction.
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  You can make as much money as you need and work your way
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  towards any ship in the game. They they were trying to cash in
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  off of that nostalgia and that height.
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  That is some old nostalgic music because it's been so long since
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  we've been on air. Welcome to Open Comms Radio,
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  your Star Citizen call in show. I'm Jar Jar and I have a very
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  special guest this evening. My usual Co host Tav couldn't
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  make it. He may not be back for a few
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  weeks here, but in his place this week, Cosmic Hobo.
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  Howdy. Howdy dude, Co host and open
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  Comms Radio. How you been doing this week?
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  How you been doing in Star Citizen?
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  Oh boy that's that's a loaded question for a number of reasons
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  and well we'll stick in the stars this and even that's a
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  tough one. I I couldn't log on for the past
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  three days like to live that is for whatever reason PTU is fine.
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  I got on I played through the new Onyx facility with with
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  broccoli Rob and Murphy Jack. We ran through those.
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  It's it's amazing and I'm so glad they didn't just spoil it.
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  See, I do didn't just spoil it during the days inside star
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  season. It's worth doing either on your
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  own or just in a duo or a small squad.
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  It's it's very entertaining. It's the level design is
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  amazing. Where we had comparisons to and
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  I know this is probably a little overstated, but just the
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  themeology is similar to Half Life.
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  The the style, the themes, the appearance and it's a quality
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  like a lot. They were clearly playing either
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  Half Life. I've heard Tarkov suggested as
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  well. Apparently there is a lab level
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  in Tarkov. I, I, I never played Tarkov so I
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  can't really, I don't know. But abiotic factor, which is
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  kind of very much half life inspired, like they wear that
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  very much on their sleeve. Maybe some?
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  What was that abiotic? Abiotic factor.
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  Abiotic factor? What is that?
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  What do you mean? It's.
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  Is that game you're referencing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's, it's how to there's it's a survival game base building, but
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  it takes place inside of the scientific facility that's kind
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  of collapsing and experiencing A catastrophe, like multiple
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  catastrophe. And part of the part of the game
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  is kind of figuring out what those catastrophes are with a
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  side of base building and survival.
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  So it takes a lot of the linear but open world it it's linear in
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  the sense that you're stuck within this giant lab facility,
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  but it's still open world in that there's a hub area that you
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  can go to different wings to find out other pieces of the
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  mystery. And this new Onyx facility,
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  without spoiling too much, is similar in that aspect.
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  There's there's no base building yet.
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  That's we're not we're not going to see that in Star says in for
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  a while. I think we'll possibly see a
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  super buggy, super stripped down limited version of base building
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  by end of the year. But this is the Onyx facilities
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  are a whole new thing for Star Citizen.
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  And honestly, if this is the kind of level design and
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  storytelling we're going to see in Squadron 42, I have re.
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  It has rekindled my hope for Squadron 42.
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  OK, OK, that's good. That's, that's actually good
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  news because I needed a lot of hope because I my, my, my most
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  recent Star Citizen experience was painful.
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  Yeah. Awful.
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  Yeah. So.
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  Oh yeah, three days. I couldn't log into the game.
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  It just would not. I would sit in the login screen
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  and they would eventually time out and eventually started
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  giving me the error that I needed to type in to the issue
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  cancel and then went oh it's probably your VPN.
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  I'm like why did it even let me into the game if this is a VPN
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  problem right? Did you Did you 30K?
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  Yeah, no, it was a, it was a new number, like it was like 4175 or
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  something. You see it was, yeah, yeah,
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  yeah, it was 4000, No 40,000 or 41,000 and 70, that very
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  specific error code. OK, OK.
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  Well, I-30 KD, which actually wasn't my worst experience.
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  I did 30K did pop right back in. But two or three days ago I had
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  I had started the delivery mission, the large delivery
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  mission and I picked everything up and I had AI, had AI had a
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  time of it. I was doing other things and
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  then other people kept coming down.
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  So I was like helping people with their cargo, but I didn't
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  care. I have like three runs left.
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  Anyway, I take it all. I I pack it, I fly back, fly
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  into my hanger, get in my Atlas, get out, Hanger disappears.
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  Oh fuck. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, and guess who
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  was not wearing his helmet? Oh no.
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  So I and I'm, I'm, I'm in an Atlas so I can't like put my
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  helmet on or whatever. Can.
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  I choke as I haven't back in sense.
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  I don't know if my C2 I had AC2. I don't know if it still has the
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  cargo in it. I'm assuming it doesn't.
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  I'm assuming I'm going to have to claim everything.
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  Yeah, you probably will. Unfortunately, yeah.
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  Yeah. So however, before that you were
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  with me dude, we did the worm again.
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  Yeah. Worms looking Worms looking
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  pretty interesting. They've I it looks like they've
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  added some movement to the worm. Yeah, it's terrifying now.
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  Before it was just kind of a big cool set piece.
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  You set off in the distance and kind of shot at and wasted large
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  amounts of Amo, and then we're just like, hey, it's Deadpool
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  and your biggest threat was either the little worms or
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  players. Usually players.
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  But now, now it's scary. The the worm moves around the
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  map so it doesn't just stay in one location and it has a move
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  it gave like a body slam. Dude, it's I think it's got two,
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  it's got body slam. I think it like just it does
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  what that says body slam slams down, but then there's another
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  one where like it gets low and then it stretches out as like
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  kind of like a snake coming out of a hole and like charges.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I've been hit by all of
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  it. It did glitch through the
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  facility a few times, but usually when it glitched through
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  the facility, it was just visual.
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  It didn't like harm. We did have one person who got
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  harmed by the radiation. The radiation it spits goes
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  through the walls and you can still get irradiated.
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  I don't know if that's on purpose or not.
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  I'm assuming that's. Really shouldn't be.
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  It's probably a bug. They they probably had it all
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  the animation. Then the design team was just
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  like you did what now it's like and now it does all these things
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  that they did not originally plan.
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  Well, someone planned at some point, but then they didn't
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  implement the the safeguards to keep it from, well, I, I
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  remember being exactly just directly next to the shuttle.
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  So once you got off the shuttle, you'd look to your right and
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  there would be this giant worm, and if you didn't move
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  immediately, you would die. Yeah, really.
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  Should sit right there. That's a bad spot for it to be.
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  I mean, I liked when you're coming in with the shuttle and
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  this is the fuck the worm right there.
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  Yeah, it. I like the visual of that.
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  The visual is great, but then you realize, like, is the
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  shuttle flying through? Oh, the shuttle's flying like
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  through it. It doesn't really do that, but
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  it should have like an exclusion zone where it only like pops up
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  on the Earth and ground a little further away.
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  Well, you did mention the design team and Speaking of the design
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  team. Oh yes.
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  You you chose this week's question.
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  Yeah, You introduce. It's all yours, buddy.
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  All right. So I'm sure we're all aware of
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  the new ship coming out in 4.3 and so tonight's question is
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  what's up with that fin thingy? Hi could you pull up the picture
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  of a of it so I can get? I didn't answer did.
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  You not ask, I'll do it. I'll do it in post.
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  I'll do it in. Post OK, so so if you're if
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  you're listening slash watching this after take a look at your
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  screen, that should be the wolf and you see that on the bottom
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  and you might see a few more depending on what picture is
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  chosen. That's the fin thingy.
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  Why is there a fin thingy like? They even have fins.
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  Fins and. Then and then they brought they
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  they, they pointed it out during the during, during the inside or
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  the preview for it. It's just like you're, you're
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  calling attention to this for a reason.
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  And I get it, but it's like it's a very interesting decision.
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  They did say elsewhere on Spectrum later on that they're
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  looking to see how to manually retract it in the future.
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  So it's they're going to maybe add a button on the dash that
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  allows you to retract it hopefully soon TM because
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  otherwise it looks great in my opinion.
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  Like I like the design, but that thing just why?
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  I mean, well, I don't. Maybe people really like it.
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  I have not. Heard an Internet?
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  Like it yet? Look man, if it if this could
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  also swim, then that fin I'd kind of like I'd get it.
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  I guess, yeah, I mean it, I can see it later on when we have the
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  new, it's going to come up the new flight model.
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  That's it. It it could play a role in that
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  with y'all, but for now it's just like.
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  OK, why? Well, you never know.
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  Maybe CI GS thinking ahead, maybe they're 3 or 4 steps ahead
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  of us. Yeah, sometimes I doubt.
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  Well, OK, I frequently doubt that, but maybe.
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  Well, Speaking of someone who is both ahead of the curve and
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  frequently doubts many things, our first guest this week is our
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  oldest guest of all time. We're going to pull mom up here.
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  This is Wicket. You know him, you love him.
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  Wicked. Welcome to open Comms Radio.
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  What's up with that Finn thingy, Citizens Susan?
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  Wicked. I don't even remember how many
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  times I've called him but. I knew it, dude.
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  I knew it. I was weird.
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  I was like yes, no idea. It's like 24.
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  I felt it caller. Long time something like that.
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  Long time bullshit. Finally.
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  Yes, anyway. Great.
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  So I was thinking of, you know, I saw the question in the in in
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  the discord, the Finn. Yeah.
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  What's with the Finn thingy? And the first thing that came to
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  mind was last week's title. You put on the upload to YouTube
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  from the live show of open comms and you called it the CIG
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  Rudderless. And that is the answer to the
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  question. No, not anymore.
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  They put one on a ship so see how she is no longer rather.
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  We've got our answer, folks. Thanks for coming.
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  Have a great night everyone. The other thought I had was
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  when, when, when you're part, when you're a ship that's part
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  of such a diverse universe, you have to have some way to
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  navigate through all the sloppy bullshit.
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  So they threw a fin on it. So it could stay the course, it
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  could say the course right to the bank and wouldn't lose its
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  way. Well, it's not, it's not
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  overpriced. I don't even know how much it
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  is. I saw them, they posted it
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  today. It's OK.
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  It's 100 bucks $90.00 war bond which kind of is in line does.
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  It have a quantum drive. Yes, yeah.
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  That's the first Kruger ship with a quantum drive.
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  It's the first Kruger ship. Technically it wasn't snubs.
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  Well, are isn't that a ship too? Aren't the the Maryland and the
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  Archimedes ships? Tomato.
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  Tomato. They're ships, they just.
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  Sure. You know, they're kind of like
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  the Fury. They don't have a quantum drive.
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  They have to be transported. That's true.
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  I mean, we have ships in the real world.
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  They don't have quantum drives and we still call them ships,
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  so. Exactly.
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  Well, anyway, I mean, it seems kind of pointless, that whole
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  thing, because any kind of control surfaces have absolutely
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  no effect in the current game. So whether it's a, you know, if
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  it's just a flying square, it shouldn't matter because it has
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  no effect. I guess it's, you know, it's a
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  design choice. It's a choice.
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  Who knows what it means. I could imagine something like
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  that would be cool if it was big enough to where it allows you to
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  go down like fly map of the Earth, you know, if if you know
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  what I mean by that, where the fin could stick down in the
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  water and it keeps you at just above the waves, you know, and
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  flying super close to the to to the ocean on a ocean planet or
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  something. That would be cool, kind of.
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  Yeah, because like, what's a spaceship need with a?
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  Yeah. There's I mean there's all kinds
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  of things you could think about, you know, there's that, that
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  that could be cool. It reminds me also some, some
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  kind of anime thing I once saw years and years ago that had
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  something like that, like a, it had like a, a ventricle fin like
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  that below the the hull of the ship, but I and it kind of stuck
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  in the ground. Somehow it has to I I forgot
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  what it did exactly. It just something that popped in
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  my mind when I first saw the ship.
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  I know most folks are comparing it to the swordfish from Cowboy
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  Bebop. Maybe that's what it was.
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  I don't know. Maybe that's where.
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  I saw the swordfish. Which one's that?
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  What the Spikes Ship and Cowboy Bebop the.
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  Main OK, Yeah, yeah, It's called the Swordfish.
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  Yeah, Swordfish 2 technically. That's what I was thinking in my
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  brain. And they have a red one too.
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  And his Yeah. Yeah.
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  And also that the name of that one is a reference to Porco
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  Rosso. So yeah, like it because it's
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  the, it's like the Rosso. So like the red but it's the
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  main character in Porco Rosso had a red aircraft as well, just
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  like that. See, they're, they're creative,
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  they're, they're putting things in there.
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  They're letting us know they're fans too.
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  But Oh yeah, they've done so many stars.
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  Like the same things we like. Oh yeah, if you saw this week's.
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  Yeah, this new ship it has, it has bespoke size 4 Gatling.
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  All right, here it goes. I mean, this tiny ass ship has
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  these huge guns, you know, they're ballistic, They're going
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  to run out of ammo. So that's the Achilles heel.
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  But you know, that's crazy. They have a lot of ammo for
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  Ballistics. They they really upped the ammo
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  counts like over 4000 for those I think.
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  Wow. Oh did they size 40?
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  That's kind of worth it. Yeah, still ballistic.
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  Yeah, but size 4. Yeah, I think my Zeus has size
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  fours on the nose, so I wouldn't say it's that big.
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  Yeah, but look how big the Zeus is comparatively.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's true. But this, you know, so I was
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  comparing this more to the Arrow because it's a light fighter and
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  I haven't heard anyone compare it to the Arrow yet.
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  But when they advertised it, it's sounds like it's very
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  flimsy, the ship itself. So if, if, if it could be taken
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  down easily, I'm not opposed to it having strong guns.
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  Yeah, because you're not going to be in the air very long
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  anyway. Just someone has to have a good
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  luck on you and bada Bing bada boom.
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  It's a glass cannon, Speedy glass cannon.
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  Well, we really won't know what it does and how well it does
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  until it's kind of like release in the in the wider game sphere
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  and you know, it has to survive or thrive in multiple different
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  environments. Who knows, it may be the next
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  meta ship or maybe just, you know, $100 paperweight.
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  Well, I, I love it. I love the look of it.
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  I love that pulp. I mean, you know me, I like the
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  Freelancer. I like those.
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  Like, I like rounded ships and sleek ships and ships that look
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  like they're kind of 3D printed in one piece.
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  Like I love that. And this, this kind of hits all
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  that. I almost, I'm considering
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  putting this into my fleet. I don't have a fighter.
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  I've been wanting a fighter I would I would have to melt my
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  pulse, my Atlas and then I'd probably be able to get this.
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  So is it worth a pulse in an Atlas?
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  Maybe fly in a game first That's.
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  What I'm thinking that's. What I'm thinking?
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  And it's not the only ship in the on the horizon.
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  We have, I heard somewhere 6 known ships coming before the
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  end of the year. Yeah, that tracks.
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  That's roughly what the the monthly update said.
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  I'd have to pull it up to get the specifics, but.
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  I heard of. Those are the Apollo anyway.
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  Iron Glad probably won't make it till next year.
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  Oh, you don't think so? Yeah.
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  No, I don't think it's going to be this year.
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  I think they're going to push it big for whatever Drake Khan is
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  doing next year for Invictus, their Invictus alternative,
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  which is Drake Khan because they weren't invited.
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  And then they came back this year because the ID didn't want
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  to put effort into making a whole other convention, which,
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  yeah, that's fair. Well, looking at the, looking at
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  the funding we're in August 2025.
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  We're we're, we're already where we were in November of 2024.
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  Yeah, they're they're good. They have no need to.
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  And yet they still will pump out some popular ships like the
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  Apollo is probably coming this year.
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  Perseus, that'll be a big seller.
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  Apollo Perseus. And if they do both Apollo's,
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  that's three right there. I think they're going to do both
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  at the same time. Where there's two Apollos.
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  Yeah, there's the Apollo Medevac.
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  I can't remember the exact naming.
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  It's the the slightly heavier armored Apollo.
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  It is the Apollo Triage and the Apollo Medevac.
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  And the Medevac is a kind of heavier armored, slower with
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  better missiles. Very interesting, but it's
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  they're both medical ships. Yes.
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  Why wouldn't you get the more heavily armored 1?
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  I mean, it's got to be a lot slower.
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  It's we don't know yet, but it probably will be slower.
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  Yeah. I mean price is another thing
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  like the Apollo triage is cheaper than the Apollo meta
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  pack not by much. It's like 25 bucks I think so
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  that's. Well, any talk?
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  Of relative any. Talk of armor is irrelevant
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  right now because we don't even know what that means.
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  This is true. This is true.
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  Well, Wicket, is there anything else you want to say before I
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  pull our next guest? No, I'm sure I'll I'll come up
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  with some other condescending comment.
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  Bring them up. All right, all right.
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  Well, this next guest, you know him, you love him.
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  He's got a swanky old voice. Lord Anubis, welcome to Opencoms
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  radio, your Star Citizen call in show.
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  Lord Anubis, what's up with that fin thingy?
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  It's a keel fin. Oh yeah, but why?
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  Because it's supposed to look like a sailboat.
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  Supposed to look like a boat. That's what the dev said.
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  Supposed to look like a boat. The dinghy.
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  Yeah, they they, they wanted to. They wanted to space boat and.
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  Space boats to some extent. Little, quite literally at
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  times. It also needed a fence so it
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  doesn't get blown over in the space water.
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  True, the flight model is underwater, but it's not space,
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  so makes sense. I remember when that was literal
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  like back in the day, and I'm talking back early portal, pre
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  portal us, our days when the engine was literally just space
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  but water or water but space like they did.
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  The code was still there for treating it as water.
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  So when you would run out of cold oxygen, you would actually
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  drown instead of like, you know, running out of oxygen and space
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  like one would. Yeah, how interesting.
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  Yeah. That's great.
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  That's not a thing I think they would like need to do in a game,
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  but I guess like, I don't know, I guess if they had it, Yeah,
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  yeah, yeah, they had it. So they just implemented it like
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  a shortcut, Sig told me. They never take shortcuts well.
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  Well, I mean, it's 12 years and it's not even their engine
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  still. It it's it is now Star engine is
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  far more their engine than it used to be.
• 23:46
  Yeah, but they took a shortcut. Yeah, I knew.
• 23:50
  But let's get back on this, because I brought this up last
• 23:52
  week and I thought it was really funny.
• 23:54
  You said if Star Citizen were a submarine game, the submarine
• 23:59
  game play would be perfect. Oh yeah, I mean, let's just do,
• 24:05
  let's just do a a thing. Let's just lobby them to make
• 24:08
  its feequest DSV the game. It wouldn't take too much time
• 24:14
  and. People that get that reference
• 24:16
  are very happy right now. Yeah, I don't get it.
• 24:21
  It's. I know you like I know Sequest.
• 24:25
  What did you say? Sequest DMV.
• 24:27
  What'd you say, DSV? DSV that.
• 24:31
  Was the name of the show. An Adult Swim?
• 24:36
  No. Not that. 10 That's the one I C
• 24:40
  lab C Lab, 2020. Yeah, C lab's way different, no?
• 24:45
  I do think it was change change the reference to C lab so people
• 24:48
  understand it. Yeah.
• 24:53
  So as you asked me to repeat, to change this for people to hear,
• 24:57
  the second time it it, it, it, it just converted over to C Lab
• 25:02
  2020. Oh, that, That'd be such a good
• 25:05
  game. Dude, did that break a clip?
• 25:08
  Yeah, that worked. Good job, we'll edit that in
• 25:12
  later. Yeah, well, they have this new
• 25:16
  Kruger ship that you're right, man.
• 25:18
  It looks like it could be on the ocean.
• 25:22
  Don Davis. Yeah.
• 25:26
  I'm part of the Wikipedia page. It's cool, you know, it's cool.
• 25:31
  I mean, The thing is, is that I don't know.
• 25:39
  I mean, like I, I'm not into light fighters in the game
• 25:44
  because they don't make much of an effect.
• 25:46
  They're great for fighting each other.
• 25:47
  But but nowadays when you've got interests and everything like
• 25:50
  that, there's really nothing you can do with a light fighter.
• 25:54
  I mean, most people are just armored up.
• 25:59
  That's true. I mean, even even if you had 20
• 26:01
  light fighter against an interest, that's just 20 targets
• 26:04
  for the people in the interest. Yeah, and I mean, there's such a
• 26:11
  power disparity that, you know, I mean, I, I barely find any
• 26:17
  reason to use my F7A. A lot of times I go into combat
• 26:21
  and it's just, you know, if it's anything larger than a, anything
• 26:25
  larger than like let's say A600I, it's hard.
• 26:32
  Yeah, yeah, I mean the most fun I ever had in in a combat ship
• 26:36
  is like in the Hurricane. I just that's just one of my
• 26:39
  favorites and they they do have the little missions.
• 26:41
  I mean they have all the missions take and the bounties
• 26:43
  you can take. So it's not like in terms of a
• 26:46
  PVE though, there's still a great use for these ships.
• 26:49
  Like you can take your your Kruger wolf out and start doing
• 26:53
  bounties, you know. So it's really just in like the
• 26:56
  PvP sphere that you know, you have that kind of pay to win
• 27:01
  level level. Still, we're all someone has to
• 27:03
  do is roll up in the in their Idris or Polaris and everyone
• 27:09
  else in the smaller ships is just is just pretty much done.
• 27:13
  Yeah, and, and they do need to, I mean, we've got a lot of PvP
• 27:18
  in the game, but you know, one of the things about, you know,
• 27:21
  player bounties is that, yeah, you don't know what to bring and
• 27:27
  they're just going to jump around anyways.
• 27:30
  And so they need something that's light and fast, which a
• 27:33
  good light fighter would be, would be great for, you know, so
• 27:38
  you can actually get in and actually bite them.
• 27:40
  But nowadays, you know, if they're up armor then you're
• 27:43
  moving in something slow too and they just jump away.
• 27:47
  I think a lot of that's where precision targeting was supposed
• 27:52
  to play a role. But since so many ships lack
• 27:56
  full components passes that there's no real point in
• 28:01
  precision targeting anything because, you know, and I hit it
• 28:04
  probably anyway and it doesn't exist.
• 28:09
  So they want to like shoot on these big ships.
• 28:12
  They want you to shoot these components.
• 28:13
  Like those that aren't aware is that chips have should have
• 28:18
  physicalized components and a small ship should in theory do
• 28:22
  better at homing in on say the power plane or the shield
• 28:26
  generator on a ship that it's attacking.
• 28:29
  Then if you're just like a Terry gunner and you're at the will of
• 28:33
  the pilot, pointing you at the right thing at the right time.
• 28:37
  Yeah, but not all these ships have these components.
• 28:40
  Or. Right.
• 28:42
  So like, you know, we have 6 new ships coming up.
• 28:45
  I think it's supposedly this year.
• 28:50
  I'd like to see them do some gold passes or, or bring a lot
• 28:53
  of these other ships up to snuff.
• 28:55
  Because if, if they're going to keep releasing ships that, for
• 28:58
  example, have these bespoke ballistic cannons on them, then
• 29:05
  I want to see like the gameplay that like why you releasing all
• 29:09
  these ballistic ships if you know, it's not really the meta
• 29:13
  right now? Or if you, if you know, like
• 29:16
  people don't want that because it's just not useful.
• 29:19
  So if you have a new flight model, engineering or whatever
• 29:24
  that you have coming into the game and then you release it and
• 29:28
  only three ships, it only applies to three or four ships
• 29:31
  that you just released. Well, then people are going to
• 29:34
  be a little upset about that because I'm going to be coming
• 29:36
  around in my ship that I bought 10 years ago.
• 29:40
  It's interesting. It's interesting that you say
• 29:43
  release. And that got me.
• 29:46
  Thinking that got me thinking, well, you know, the cure for all
• 29:52
  this, right, is to do the gold pass, do system componentry.
• 29:57
  So, you know, like, like Hobo was saying that precision
• 30:03
  targeting has a use, you know, you're trying to disable
• 30:06
  components and you know, maybe eventually armor will come into
• 30:11
  play and whatever. But you know, there's no money
• 30:16
  in a cure. There's only money in the
• 30:19
  treatment. And of course, I'm going to go
• 30:21
  back to they have no incentive to fix the old game, the old
• 30:27
  ships. Like what's the incentive to fix
• 30:30
  the Atlas? Self respect.
• 30:33
  The the the the the Avenger Titan you.
• 30:36
  Know that's reputation. That's a ship that's been around
• 30:39
  forever. So it got me thinking, you know,
• 30:42
  we have all these Mark ones, Mark twos.
• 30:45
  Oh boy. Eventually we're going to have
• 30:47
  the Avenger Titan Mark 2 and that'll be a new ship and we'll
• 30:51
  have to resell that and that'll have the gold standard and the
• 30:54
  old ship would just be retired. No, that's not at all what they
• 30:59
  said they're going to do. No, they've explicitly said
• 31:04
  that's not how they're going to do Mark Twos.
• 31:08
  Well, when they did the what? Happened with all those Hornets.
• 31:11
  You know they had the Hornet Mark 2.
• 31:13
  Because Chris Roberts 10 years ago wanted to have the concept
• 31:17
  of a classic car version of the ship and they already had the
• 31:21
  new model for the Hornet for squash and 42, so they're easy.
• 31:28
  Oh OK, well don't be upset when it happens.
• 31:35
  I got to say, I got to say you're both very convincing on
• 31:37
  that because I mean, you did. They did do it with the Hornet
• 31:40
  right now, did you? You got a free upgrade though,
• 31:42
  if you already had the mark one, right?
• 31:44
  Nope. No.
• 31:48
  Damn. Well, there's no money in a
• 31:52
  cure, man. There's only money in treatment.
• 31:54
  Well, not necessarily. I mean, you know, what they can
• 31:58
  do is when they when they make a let's say a Titan Mark 2, they
• 32:04
  they they build off the original one.
• 32:06
  They could do the gold pass at that point in order to, in order
• 32:09
  to justify the time spent on it while modifying it to now make a
• 32:14
  mark too with the same features, the same gold pass, maybe some
• 32:18
  up armoured, you know, stuff and some some more guns.
• 32:22
  But you know, if it's built off the same frame, they should be
• 32:25
  able to still do it and achieve both at the same time.
• 32:30
  Because I do think that there should be progression in designs
• 32:36
  because. Feed Peter without Robin, Paul.
• 32:42
  Yeah, but still there's. That there's still some new
• 32:47
  money coming in. Yeah, I I think that that would
• 32:51
  be a perfectly viable way to do it.
• 32:53
  Well, and then the Mark Wines would be like, you know, they'd
• 32:56
  be like vintage. They'd actually be pretty cool
• 32:57
  in that in that respect if they got the upgrade and if they get
• 33:00
  the same love. And then people with the mark
• 33:02
  ones would be a lot of people who maybe don't want to upgrade
• 33:05
  it. Maybe the combat ship, you're
• 33:07
  like, oh, I need to have the meta.
• 33:09
  But if if I'm getting an upgraded, you know, exploration
• 33:13
  ship or whatever, maybe that vintage one is there.
• 33:15
  Why would you fly the ship that's less good than the new
• 33:19
  mark? Want mark 2?
• 33:21
  Well, the difference from the mark one and two Hornets isn't
• 33:24
  that significant, so. But it's the mark 2 is better
• 33:28
  than the mark one, right? Yeah, but the, you know.
• 33:34
  Who would know? With the current balance like,
• 33:37
  but that's working off the current balance and.
• 33:40
  Well, that's. Never something to work off of.
• 33:43
  But like my car? That's all we have to work off
• 33:45
  of for right now. That's also fair.
• 33:47
  All things being equal, that's the only thing we can work off.
• 33:50
  Of it's like a few percentage points at best.
• 33:53
  Like it's so small. But it's still better, right?
• 33:57
  Yes, but at the same time, my 2019 is better than my 2001 car.
• 34:03
  I mean, you're going to have refreshes and I think that's
• 34:05
  going to be expected. And I think that they should do
• 34:07
  that more because, yes, why isn't there a new model all the
• 34:12
  time? Like so with cars, it's every
• 34:14
  three years, usually they do a refresh on the model and then
• 34:18
  every six years they'll do a whole new model, you know, So
• 34:24
  it, it, it makes sense to do those incremental things.
• 34:27
  I think it's a good way for people to just, it'll have more
• 34:31
  variety, justify the the thing, boost the sales, you know?
• 34:37
  Think it's just another another way to rationalize getting
• 34:43
  people to spend more money. Yeah.
• 34:45
  Well, 100%, yeah. Well, Speaking of someone who's
• 34:50
  spent a little bit of money in the game, we have a we do have
• 34:52
  another guest waiting for. This guy's a whale.
• 34:55
  This guy's a this guy will and he'll he'll tell us.
• 34:57
  He knows I can. I bet.
• 34:59
  I kind of don't want to let him in because I I picture him like
• 35:01
  festering in his seat, keep listening to her screaming at a
• 35:05
  screen. So I kind of want to keep him in
• 35:07
  there. But maybe, maybe hobo, you want
• 35:09
  to introduce this next fellow? Sure thing.
• 35:13
  Well, he's he's our glorious leader who has LED us into
• 35:17
  battle many times and is very bad at parking ships.
• 35:23
  Is Murphy, Jack? Hello everybody.
• 35:27
  Welcome to open comms radio. What's up with that fin thingy?
• 35:33
  Yeah, that thing like, I think it's cool.
• 35:35
  I like how it looks until it flips over and I was like, what
• 35:42
  it kind of looks. It reminds me of like a dolphin.
• 35:46
  And if they keep that fin down there, it's like.
• 35:50
  It's a very happy doll. Yeah, like it's like it's hard
• 35:54
  to Unsee, but it's cool. I like the direction they went
• 35:57
  with it. It's different and it's follows
• 36:01
  with their, you know, their snubs.
• 36:03
  I like it. I'm interested to see what
• 36:06
  variants they come out with, but.
• 36:09
  Racing should be easy. I know, right?
• 36:12
  That'll be, I think, those. Guns are gonna need 2 fins.
• 36:15
  Yes, it's add more fins. Think like that with the
• 36:19
  Peregrine, right? Yeah, it'd be cool to see those
• 36:22
  two and the 350R right? I guess I'm 50, but interesting
• 36:30
  to say the least. But as far as like I heard the
• 36:33
  the Hornet talk, we know like we have people that have the F7A
• 36:39
  Mark one, right? And it's, and Xenoverse, who I
• 36:43
  haven't seen in a while, but I know he has the one.
• 36:45
  And he like specifically would fly that in PvP just for the
• 36:50
  sake of the cool factor. And it was good and he was
• 36:54
  really good with it. And as far as the meta, the
• 36:59
  meta's obviously constantly changing.
• 37:02
  But yeah, the Mark 2F7A, especially with well, not so
• 37:07
  much now, but especially in the other four point O patches where
• 37:12
  you could put the Super Hornet turret on it and get an
• 37:14
  additional 8 size 1 missiles. The guy was it's hard to beat,
• 37:18
  but that you know that in lore and everything that is the, you
• 37:24
  know, the fighter, right? So it made sense.
• 37:29
  And I don't know how I, I, I kind of was a little like Mark
• 37:36
  1, Mark 2. Is this going to be a
• 37:38
  continuation or is it going to be, you know, is this just a one
• 37:42
  off? Because this was already
• 37:43
  established in the lore, right? I mean, we've been seeing the
• 37:47
  F7A Mark 2 at IE since what, 2940?
• 37:52
  It was a 49 I think. Well, and back then it was a
• 37:56
  reward. It was a.
• 37:59
  Reward for completing 42, right? No, no, not that old.
• 38:04
  What? God.
• 38:05
  That's for the F7 was no. Well, you know, there's a lot of
• 38:09
  ships. I'm getting confused.
• 38:10
  I'm sorry. No no, no no, as in that was
• 38:12
  never dated ever. People that that's an old wives
• 38:16
  tale is the idea that CIG would give you a a some full ship or
• 38:21
  whatever for finishing Squadron 42?
• 38:23
  That was. That was, that's, that's no,
• 38:26
  that's never. I've been propagandized by the
• 38:29
  community. Is that the same ship they said
• 38:31
  they'd never sell? No, that's no.
• 38:35
  That's also been taken out of context, but.
• 38:39
  But didn't they say they would never sell that chip?
• 38:41
  It was a reward. The F8C.
• 38:44
  Yeah, F87-F8C. Yeah, F8.
• 38:47
  C They never both took it. All right, well, that's it for
• 38:56
  the show today. There, there's a lot about the
• 38:59
  word access to that people ran away with that Chris, Chris
• 39:03
  Roberts said at one point. And it's been taken horribly out
• 39:08
  of context ever since. Well, if we've if we've learned
• 39:11
  anything that don't put too much weight on what Chris Roberts
• 39:14
  says, especially when he's in front of hundreds of people.
• 39:18
  Yeah, he's had a problem with that.
• 39:20
  Yeah. But he also said he wanted a
• 39:23
  classic car ship and 10 years later, here we are with the
• 39:27
  classic car ship. So that happened.
• 39:31
  That's true. I didn't like it, trust me, and
• 39:34
  as much as I am pointing out that it was kind of a one off
• 39:38
  it, I hated it. I thought it was stupid.
• 39:40
  I thought it should have been a flat out offer, an upgrade for
• 39:44
  free for owners of the One Mark 1 Excetera, but it's just it
• 39:50
  happens and people like them are too.
• 39:53
  Like I've heard a lot of like if Schweet was here, he could tell
• 39:57
  us how much he loves his Hornets.
• 39:59
  He is horny for Hornets. He buys all the Hornets.
• 40:03
  He buys all the Hornets. It's like the one should be
• 40:05
  always buys. I mean, the F7A is what I always
• 40:07
  fly. I mean by the side, I just, I
• 40:10
  always liked it. Seeing it at the show, it was
• 40:13
  always just like, man, that thing is, it's great.
• 40:16
  It's really cool. And if I mean, I I do believe
• 40:20
  eventually, well, I hope they can figure out a balance with
• 40:25
  everything, but I do think maybe even this patch the F7A is going
• 40:29
  to get dethroned. Well, the light fighter love,
• 40:35
  you know, you go up one-on-one against the light fighter with
• 40:41
  somebody that knows what they're doing.
• 40:42
  I mean, you're, you can't, you can't do much in F7A.
• 40:47
  Well, we were just talking about how useless they are.
• 40:51
  Which Which light fighters? Light fighters, because we have
• 40:54
  the Idris, you have the big ship, so you come if you're PvP
• 40:57
  and if you're in the verse in the PU, you you come across a a
• 41:01
  light fighter. But if you're in a big ship, who
• 41:04
  cares? Yeah, I mean there is that
• 41:08
  right, But in a in a group setting?
• 41:12
  Yeah, yeah. But that actors, we've taken
• 41:15
  down Polar Eye before. With light fighters.
• 41:20
  A mixture of craft. Well, with auroras.
• 41:25
  Well, yeah, but that. Hey, talk about a special ship.
• 41:28
  Can't you can't get an Aurora anymore?
• 41:31
  That I think is getting a mark 2 for the reasons previously
• 41:35
  stated about designs involved. I will that that is an
• 41:39
  exceptional say is. I think we'll get a mark 2 for
• 41:42
  the Aurora because it's such an old ass design.
• 41:45
  What's a fin? Do you think we'll get a mark a
• 41:48
  Mark 2 Aurora with Squadron 42 and Star Citizen combo packet?
• 41:55
  It'll be a reward when you complete the Squadron 42.
• 41:58
  Right. Yeah, that that's what they
• 42:00
  were. People were saying all.
• 42:05
  Right, all right, all right, all right.
• 42:06
  We can't beat. They will probably try and give
• 42:10
  us a pre-order date and we know how CID is with dates and at
• 42:13
  that point then they could sell a Squadron 42 again.
• 42:18
  What's what's an Aurora Mark 2 going to be?
• 42:22
  Down on more wings, more, more Dorito.
• 42:26
  Couple fins. Some more fins I I genuinely
• 42:32
  don't know. Will that make the mark one more
• 42:35
  valuable in anyone's eyes? It's an Aurora, yeah.
• 42:42
  There's not a lot of people out there that absolutely adore
• 42:45
  Auroras so. But I fly a lot.
• 42:47
  I have one. It it's not a bad ship.
• 42:51
  It, it's kind of it, it's it's kind of cool.
• 42:56
  I think it was my, my first ship or no, I had a Mustang when I
• 43:00
  first pledged. I mean, it was, it was, it was,
• 43:04
  I think what was really cool about it for the time was that
• 43:08
  you can get into it and then go to the seat instead of, you
• 43:13
  know, just hopping into the cockpit.
• 43:14
  And you know, for a lot of games, that was stuff that was
• 43:17
  rare. Right.
• 43:19
  Yeah, it was a big deal. There was a time in 322 the Ln
• 43:23
  was like actually very good at fighting.
• 43:26
  He was super. Nimble.
• 43:28
  Yeah. It's pretty small, so like like
• 43:32
  it's not a bad ship. I won't say that.
• 43:34
  I just feel like the design is so old that I would not be
• 43:37
  surprised if they do a mark 2. Kind of like a classic, huh?
• 43:42
  Yeah, like a classic car. Thanks, Chris.
• 43:50
  I mean. Thank you, Chris Roberts.
• 43:53
  The more variety the better, because it only makes them.
• 43:56
  You know, this is not a small, it's not supposed to be a small
• 43:59
  Galaxy. You know, it's supposed to be
• 44:02
  lived in spacefaring civilizations that have been
• 44:06
  around for hundreds of years somehow turned an entire planet
• 44:10
  into a ecumenopolis in a random boring system.
• 44:19
  You know, I mean, these these are these are things where you
• 44:21
  should see more variety. There should be a lot more
• 44:23
  variety. And I don't mind them selling
• 44:25
  ships because they got to pay these guys.
• 44:27
  They got to keep going even even after one point O comes out.
• 44:30
  They're going to have to keep selling ships.
• 44:34
  But that's fine. Oh, you think you think they're
• 44:37
  not going to move to skins, you think they're just because this
• 44:39
  is something they have said and don't you know, I've heard them
• 44:43
  when they're not going to sell ships after one point O.
• 44:47
  It wouldn't make any sense for them not to sell ship.
• 44:52
  Wow. Is anyone standing firm on this
• 44:54
  or is everyone just rolled over? No, I don't know.
• 44:57
  Make a subscription, but everybody's against it me when I
• 45:00
  say. Chris is against it too.
• 45:02
  He has come out very strongly against making it a subscription
• 45:05
  only. Yeah, I don't need a
• 45:06
  subscription to play my game. I mean look at like
• 45:09
  collectibles, skins. You know.
• 45:12
  Skinned armors, skinned guns, whatever.
• 45:16
  Like there is a lot they could do.
• 45:17
  There's, there's the people are going to soak that up.
• 45:21
  Face building stuff that's going to get.
• 45:22
  Yeah, look at that. Like furniture, right?
• 45:25
  Yeah. I mean realistically.
• 45:29
  Pets. Can we talk about little?
• 45:31
  Pets. You know, maybe that's coming.
• 45:34
  Cats get a move. Flat cats.
• 45:36
  What would your pets do though? I mean they just follow you
• 45:38
  around. Probably do a lot.
• 45:42
  Well, I think if if they're going to do something like skins
• 45:46
  or pets or anything, I think they should, they should they're
• 45:50
  going to do that. They shouldn't do it in in A2
• 45:53
  fold way to to keep monetization coming in and make it kind of
• 45:57
  Fair. Make it in such a way where you
• 46:00
  don't just buy the skin and you have you buy like the blueprint,
• 46:04
  but you still have to make it gamify it and you still have to
• 46:06
  make it a game. You still have to have the
• 46:08
  resources. You still have to build the
• 46:10
  thing and then you can apply it. You know, that way people that
• 46:15
  don't want to buy it, they can still maybe find the skin by,
• 46:20
  you know, it's a drop or it's a loot box or, you know, they,
• 46:23
  they, they go exploring and find, find it.
• 46:26
  And, you know, maybe it has a limited amount of times that can
• 46:30
  be crafted or applied or whatever.
• 46:32
  You know, whereas maybe if you buy this do do do a purchase of
• 46:36
  something like that and you build it in game, it's more of a
• 46:39
  permanent thing. Yeah.
• 46:41
  It's just just kind of spitballing.
• 46:44
  So wicked, can I buy your blueprint or can I trade
• 46:46
  blueprints with you? I'm sure you could like, let's
• 46:49
  say, you know, like we have no idea how they're going to
• 46:52
  implement crafting. But if, if the blueprint
• 46:56
  blueprint system has worked in many different kinds of games
• 46:59
  and it's something that that could be traded, you know, yeah,
• 47:04
  something that can be discovered.
• 47:06
  It could be a drop, it could be a discovery, or it could some
• 47:09
  some things could be crafted, you know, and then there's
• 47:12
  higher end things that you know, some of some of the blueprint
• 47:16
  crafting type systems in some games, they have research and
• 47:19
  development where you can spend time to make the blueprint
• 47:24
  better than it was or combine multiple blueprints or comply,
• 47:29
  combine variations of blueprints to make a a better end result.
• 47:34
  I mean, there's, you know, Sky's the limit.
• 47:36
  If if they, they could really, really invest some time and
• 47:39
  effort into flushing and design, flushing it out and designing
• 47:43
  something that they can bring into in into an MMO type
• 47:47
  setting. That whole crafting the and then
• 47:51
  that crafting goes into base building.
• 47:53
  You know, if they just have it to where, oh, you just flopped
• 47:57
  down a module and you throw the resources into it to build it.
• 48:00
  I mean, that's going to be boring.
• 48:04
  And this game needs to last 10 years at least, you know.
• 48:09
  And for a game like that, you look at Star Trek Online, their
• 48:14
  model is they sell ship, and those ships have traits or
• 48:18
  special equipment that you can put on other things.
• 48:21
  But it's the way they've stayed afloat for going on 15 years.
• 48:26
  And Star Citizen have to last at least that long to make any of
• 48:30
  this worth it. And so, you know, I mean, in the
• 48:34
  modern world, your game survived by selling things.
• 48:38
  And there's not necessarily anything wrong with that as long
• 48:41
  as it doesn't create a power imbalance, you know, then it
• 48:45
  then it's fine if it's cosmetic stuff, if it's just, hey, this
• 48:48
  looks cool. It's fine if you're selling
• 48:50
  ships, but you can also get those shipped in game through
• 48:53
  maybe extraordinary measures, but that that's fine.
• 49:00
  All right. Well, I do want to move the the
• 49:02
  next part of this conversation over to things coming up, things
• 49:08
  we know, things we see things, things that maybe some of us
• 49:14
  have played. So I know a couple of you, at
• 49:18
  least two of you here have played the Onyx facilities.
• 49:21
  Hobo mentioned it earlier. I don't want any spoilers, OK.
• 49:28
  But Murphy, Jack Hobo, Anubis, did you play the Onyx
• 49:32
  facilities? I have not yet.
• 49:35
  All right, so Murphy, Jack and Hobo can give us a little one
• 49:38
  sentence what to expect and how you like it.
• 49:45
  If you want to go. First, well, well, First off, I
• 49:51
  could do like one word amazing and like it is, if this
• 50:01
  continues this level of environmental, just the
• 50:07
  building, the whole the feeling, the sound, all that like like
• 50:11
  they nailed it. They absolutely nailed this.
• 50:15
  It's the first time ever I played this and I felt like I
• 50:21
  got immersed in wanting to know what the fuck is going on here.
• 50:25
  Like story wise, like I, you know you when we go do the worm,
• 50:31
  you see the little the little recording devices and you listen
• 50:35
  to them. You're like, OK, yeah.
• 50:36
  You kind of half listen a little bit, and then you listen and
• 50:39
  it's like, oh, Doctor Yora da da da.
• 50:42
  Yeah, you kind of get it. Here you're like, I got to find
• 50:45
  that. I got to What the Hell's going
• 50:47
  on in this room? What the hell is that?
• 50:49
  What is that? How?
• 50:49
  Would they do that? What is that?
• 50:51
  Yeah. And then you're like, you're
• 50:54
  looking around, you're like, look at that guy.
• 50:55
  It's like, it's crazy. Well, it's really interesting.
• 51:00
  A question for you, is it on the same level or better than the
• 51:04
  Dune MSQ that we played? It's on that level.
• 51:08
  It's it is. I think it's not, it's not as
• 51:12
  big as that obviously, but as a as a singular location.
• 51:17
  So like pick a singular location in Dune.
• 51:19
  It's on that level 100%. Oh, that's cool then, because
• 51:22
  that was very well done. So look man, I liked the
• 51:26
  resource Dr. conceptually, I thought they, you know, they did
• 51:29
  really, really good with that, but the bugs ruined it.
• 51:33
  What are the chances of bugs ruining this experience for for
• 51:38
  me when I pop in there? 72%.
• 51:44
  I from looking to. That ISC today, it's probably
• 51:47
  pretty high. Well, the I mean before just
• 51:52
  quick hobo, I'll just say like it can ruin your mission.
• 51:57
  Maybe if the mission bugs out. But like if you go there your
• 52:03
  first time going there and your mission bugs out, you're not
• 52:04
  going to be you're not going to be angry.
• 52:06
  You're going to be like, holy shit.
• 52:08
  Because just as a in a sandbox way, this is really well done.
• 52:11
  Like so is. I don't get it.
• 52:12
  Is it a sandbox? Is it a what?
• 52:14
  Is this because they reclassified it from a Co-op
• 52:19
  zone to a sandbox? They shifted that away.
• 52:22
  They shifted the Co-op zone stuff away that this is a
• 52:24
  different thing. OK, so it's it's a different
• 52:27
  thing. So it is a sandbox activity.
• 52:29
  Can multiple people show up there?
• 52:30
  They have nothing to do with each other.
• 52:33
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's something that is going
• 52:40
  to need work there. There there is high potential of
• 52:43
  being grief, but a good thing is that there's 120 of these and
• 52:50
  you also you have to have the mission to get in right.
• 52:53
  You can't you can't just fly there and and go in without the
• 52:55
  mission right. Or am I thinking of this wrong
• 52:57
  You're. Right, you're right.
• 52:59
  Somebody can sit outside and just snipe you when you come
• 53:02
  back out or snipe you on the way.
• 53:03
  In well, it's a hanger and it's I believe it's a personal
• 53:06
  hanger. So if somebody yeah, because I
• 53:09
  got attacked by a gladius and they couldn't come in because if
• 53:12
  they came in they would get stowed.
• 53:15
  So it's. It's soft instanced as I've
• 53:20
  called it, because it's not real instancing.
• 53:22
  It's not. Can somebody fly, fly their
• 53:25
  ship, you know, ram you? I mean same as that A at a city.
• 53:33
  Yeah. So is this bunkers 2 point?
• 53:35
  OI hope. So.
• 53:39
  OK. Because it's like it's an
• 53:41
  instance hanger too, by the way. So like, it's not, it's the kind
• 53:44
  of like Wiccolo, you go there, you get your own hanger.
• 53:47
  And are the stories the same or do they?
• 53:50
  Are they dynamic? Do they change?
• 53:54
  Oh, it's, it's just a set emissions.
• 53:56
  So it's like 12345. I think we've done, I don't know
• 53:59
  what we got up to six or seven. But it's the same.
• 54:02
  I'll give away the whole bag. Now it's a story.
• 54:06
  This is a story. So it's.
• 54:08
  It's not, I think. I think when Nubus is getting it
• 54:10
  is replayability. Yeah, I'm all the first time,
• 54:15
  but am I going to be able to play this two dozen times and
• 54:19
  still feel, you know, good about it?
• 54:22
  I think so they're they're the, the replayability is logically
• 54:28
  inserted into the world without spoiling anything, It's hey, go
• 54:33
  back and check on this and logically, OK, it would make
• 54:37
  sense that maybe something had changed and they want new data,
• 54:41
  so you got to go back. But I will I'll say too, though,
• 54:45
  I mean, once you complete it and once you're done with it, I
• 54:49
  mean, that's a there's no, I don't think there's a big reason
• 54:54
  to go back, but it's going to take a while to get to that
• 54:56
  point. It's just the same as in Dune.
• 54:58
  Same or any, I'd argue to say any MSQ quest or thing, right?
• 55:04
  Once you go there, you do the story all right.
• 55:07
  But The thing is, is this has they can build on this, I think
• 55:11
  too. This can get, you know, like the
• 55:13
  worm going and collecting resources, right?
• 55:16
  This this has that potential too.
• 55:18
  So. What either that, that's kind of
• 55:20
  the the thing that it's been so far is that they have these
• 55:23
  wonderful things and these wonderful experiences that you
• 55:27
  try once and then you did it and then you move on to the next
• 55:30
  one. It's an amusement park style MMO
• 55:33
  and I'm, I'm hoping that they do take some sort of generative AI
• 55:40
  to implement new stories into the game.
• 55:43
  Because if they can't do it themselves, then at least have
• 55:46
  something that can make something randomized and
• 55:50
  personal and depending upon your own, you know, unique set of
• 55:58
  abilities, skills, and and reputations.
• 56:03
  You know, in order to be able to use places like these and
• 56:06
  breathe new life in. I don't know Numis, that may be
• 56:10
  your your unpopular hot take. I have many.
• 56:14
  Thoughts on? That but.
• 56:16
  AI took my job Anubis. AI gave me way there's There's
• 56:24
  no way an AI could replicate what they did with these
• 56:27
  missions. No, but, but I mean, again, it's
• 56:32
  one of those things where you do have, you know, the
• 56:36
  replayability factor, generating new missions and new stories
• 56:44
  that that can keep people coming back while keeping it dynamic
• 56:48
  maybe. Oh no, Zeno threat invaded this
• 56:50
  place. You know, like you could just
• 56:52
  spawn different NPCS in there, things like that, You know, I
• 56:56
  mean like just make it so random and so crazy that it's not like
• 57:02
  the last thing. It's a whole different story,
• 57:05
  you know, but it can generate them on the fly, which, yeah,
• 57:09
  you know, I know it, it does kind of suck.
• 57:11
  But they but it's only for these types of missions that just
• 57:14
  repeat and repeat and repeat the main missions, the main stories
• 57:17
  that are written, you know, they still have their relevance.
• 57:21
  But every time I go into a bunker, I kind of want, you
• 57:24
  know, I kind of want something to think about.
• 57:28
  I just want more missions. I want the missions back that we
• 57:32
  had before before we start getting into something like that
• 57:36
  or even approaching something like that, like we need to get
• 57:39
  what we already had back. Yeah, Oh, it looks like.
• 57:44
  Maybe more voices? Yeah, I don't want to cut you
• 57:47
  off their noob, but we do have a guest.
• 57:48
  We have a new guest, a fresh, fresh meat, so to speak.
• 57:53
  So we're going to we're going to pull up this new guest here for
• 57:56
  the end of the show. This guy, what a what a
• 58:01
  gentleman. Wild card.
• 58:04
  Welcome to Open Comms Radio, your Star Citizen call in show.
• 58:09
  Well, thank you so much. Thanks for stopping by.
• 58:12
  Finn thingy. Say it again, Oboe.
• 58:17
  What's with that Finn thingy? That's for you, wild card.
• 58:23
  That's for you. OK, I'm not sure I understand
• 58:28
  the reference, I'm sorry. It's the ship deck.
• 58:32
  Oh oh. Really, that's what did it.
• 58:34
  I'll tell you if you OK. Yeah, kind of guess this is
• 58:37
  going. To be well, you know, if you put
• 58:39
  it in terms I can understand then.
• 58:40
  Absolutely. Fair enough.
• 58:41
  Fair enough. So what's with it?
• 58:47
  What are your thoughts about the the ship deck?
• 58:52
  Well, I really don't have much in the way of those kind of
• 58:57
  thoughts. I did pick the ship up because
• 59:00
  it looks interesting and, you know, a sucker, but.
• 59:05
  Have you flown it? I have not, not yet, no.
• 59:11
  It was just looking at it and you know, I have the Merlin
• 59:15
  that's attached to my Connie and I've flown that and, you know,
• 59:19
  races and different things. And it was a lot of fun.
• 59:22
  So I had, based on what I saw on the infomercials, I thought that
• 59:27
  this would be nice and nimble and probably something to play
• 59:30
  with and, you know, shiny new toys.
• 59:33
  It's really hard for me to resist.
• 59:36
  Understandable. But you guys were talking about
• 59:39
  bunkers earlier and that kind of piqued my interest.
• 59:43
  All right. And as usual, I like, I
• 59:46
  apparently come into the tail end of things when you guys are
• 59:48
  just about wrapping up. But you know, but I, what I
• 59:51
  found to be interesting in the, in the, in the PTU was that the
• 59:56
  regular, the regular bunkers have changed like I do a lot of,
• 59:59
  a lot of Hurston bunkers and they had added rooms and they
• 1:00:05
  changed things. So there was a little, it was
• 1:00:09
  different. And then the the layer of
• 1:00:11
  difficulty was increased dramatically by the sheer amount
• 1:00:15
  of security forces that were there.
• 1:00:17
  Like, I mean, at this point you probably don't even have to go
• 1:00:20
  to the bunker to defend it because they can defend
• 1:00:22
  ourselves. But the the real challenge is
• 1:00:24
  going to be not shooting one of the good guys while you're
• 1:00:26
  there. Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  You know, I mean, and that it's been it's like a crazy amount.
• 1:00:34
  Right. If if I shoot a good guy, what
• 1:00:37
  happens? Is there a?
• 1:00:39
  Penalty. Yes.
• 1:00:41
  Well, no, not necessarily because when I've been in some
• 1:00:46
  of them when they're bugged, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:47
  Like they all the elevators are occupied by good guys and you
• 1:00:50
  can go in and and take one, take a good guy down and tracked him
• 1:00:54
  out of the elevator. So the mission actually goes off
• 1:00:57
  instead of, you know, just have to abandon it and go to the next
• 1:01:00
  one. And even if you shoot one of the
• 1:01:03
  good guys, if you don't kill him, you know, you'll get a, you
• 1:01:07
  get a crime stat, one or two, depending on how severely you
• 1:01:10
  injured them. But if you kill them, then
• 1:01:12
  three, yeah, you're going to jail.
• 1:01:14
  The whole bunker is going to kill you.
• 1:01:16
  But I mean are. They really good guys if they're
• 1:01:19
  hurt them. Well, you know, you pick your
• 1:01:23
  bunker, it doesn't matter. They all act the same.
• 1:01:26
  You know, I'm not going to get into the fascist comments and
• 1:01:33
  the other, the other thing is the yeah, you're going to get,
• 1:01:41
  I've been in a bunker with a crime stat too, where I had
• 1:01:44
  injured people in the bunker and the guards didn't shoot at me.
• 1:01:48
  So I think it's at this juncture, it's only homicide
• 1:01:51
  that they're going to shoot you for.
• 1:01:53
  Yeah, crime stats been wonky in live too.
• 1:01:56
  I've been, I've been like having crime stats on and off and like
• 1:01:59
  I haven't been clearing them and I don't know, it's, it's been
• 1:02:02
  kind of weird. I mean, we had the system down.
• 1:02:05
  What the hell happened? Server.
• 1:02:08
  Server. I picked him up.
• 1:02:10
  I picked him. I picked him up randomly, you
• 1:02:13
  know, just I was in a bunker. I left the bunker, no incidents.
• 1:02:17
  And all of a sudden, crime's dead too.
• 1:02:21
  Yeah, yeah, I, I mean, I've had similar experiences.
• 1:02:26
  With all. That OK so Onyx facilities sound
• 1:02:30
  pretty pretty pretty cool. I'm actually really looking
• 1:02:35
  forward to them. 4.3 it looks like is going to drop soon.
• 1:02:41
  Probably tomorrow. To be tonight, but I believe
• 1:02:45
  elevators are causing seizures because of course they would.
• 1:02:48
  Pro don't say elevator. I'm sorry, elevator.
• 1:02:54
  See what else? And the wolf currently breaks
• 1:02:59
  reality when you're flying away with it.
• 1:03:03
  Because yeah, of course it would.
• 1:03:06
  What do you mean breaks reality? You are still tied to it when
• 1:03:11
  you leave it, so when you store it, it streams out nothing and
• 1:03:17
  everything. Yeah, OK.
• 1:03:18
  I can't deal with that. OK so sorry 4.3 it just come.
• 1:03:25
  Bends existence or what? What?
• 1:03:27
  Yeah, something like that, from what I've gathered.
• 1:03:30
  Did you become a God? No, I think it just like breaks
• 1:03:36
  servers and breaks you and. We're breaking.
• 1:03:39
  The skin, you can't go quantum, you can't go that fast with a
• 1:03:42
  fin sticking out your bottom. Scientifically, physics wise,
• 1:03:46
  Einstein knew this. Oppenheimer knew this, he said.
• 1:03:50
  No fins. No.
• 1:03:53
  No fins on ships. Dicks.
• 1:03:57
  That's pretty good. That's a pretty good Einstein.
• 1:03:59
  Yeah. Yeah, I it's Einstein.
• 1:04:04
  OK, so which means one stone. I don't know.
• 1:04:07
  Anyway, 4.3 is coming out. We know what's in it.
• 1:04:13
  We have 4.4 and then 4.5 for the.
• 1:04:17
  It looks like for the rest of the year we may only get I maybe
• 1:04:21
  two or three more patches this year, right?
• 1:04:24
  Because they said they were going to do 10 and I don't think
• 1:04:27
  they've missed a month yet. Have they missed a month this
• 1:04:29
  year? I feel like I Invictus was a
• 1:04:32
  little off, but otherwise no. So we may only get two more
• 1:04:38
  patches this year. If they said they were going to
• 1:04:40
  do 10 and they've already done 8 have we had it's has been 8
• 1:04:44
  patches this would be the 8th. Wow.
• 1:04:48
  Correct me if I'm wrong, Wiki. You know how to count things.
• 1:04:50
  You tell me. I don't know.
• 1:04:51
  Earlier, he didn't seem to know how to count.
• 1:04:53
  OK, So very quickly we're going to go around, I'll go around to
• 1:05:00
  each of each one of you. What are what do we think we're
• 1:05:04
  going to get one of these next two patches by the end of the
• 1:05:09
  year? What are we looking forward to?
• 1:05:11
  Hobo your Co host, I'll start with you.
• 1:05:14
  All right. So I think we will see outside
• 1:05:18
  of the normal patch cycle, a very broken, very buggy, very
• 1:05:21
  stripped down base building build.
• 1:05:27
  You think they're going to base building before engineering?
• 1:05:31
  Engineering. Yeah, because, because.
• 1:05:37
  And if this is the cynical part, they can sell base building
• 1:05:39
  stuff. There it is, there it is.
• 1:05:44
  Wild. OK, Well, I think that we will
• 1:05:49
  see engineering. And the reason I think that is
• 1:05:51
  because if you've been following the the game formerly known as
• 1:05:57
  jump ship, that's now called space jump, they have the
• 1:06:01
  rudimentaries of engineering in that game, you know,
• 1:06:05
  extinguishing fires and changing fuses and that sort of thing,
• 1:06:08
  components. And I think that, you know, much
• 1:06:12
  like we see the Valicar appear when Dune arrives, you know, in
• 1:06:19
  order to keep themselves relevant, I think that Sig will
• 1:06:21
  probably be pushing engineering before the end of the year.
• 1:06:27
  I like that. I like your reasoning.
• 1:06:29
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Murphy, Jack. Murphy, Jack, what do you think?
• 1:06:35
  We're going to see these next couple of patches before the end
• 1:06:38
  of the year. 3 letters, one word, Nix.
• 1:06:43
  Hell yeah, baby. Oh, you're one of those, huh?
• 1:06:46
  I'm one of those I heard that really hope, I hope with nerf, I
• 1:06:51
  hope we get it. I don't see why we wouldn't.
• 1:06:55
  I mean, I, I, well, we're not going to get into the spoilers,
• 1:07:00
  but. Oh, OK, OK, so.
• 1:07:03
  This makes sense. OK all.
• 1:07:05
  Right, it would be a good conclusion to the story.
• 1:07:10
  That's awesome. I see you all right, you get,
• 1:07:12
  Oh, that's too much already. That there's a story and they
• 1:07:16
  could have a conclusion. Clever, Very, very clever.
• 1:07:23
  Lord Anubis, baby, what are you going to see this year?
• 1:07:29
  World War Three just before the last week of the year.
• 1:07:33
  Well, wait, hold on. Talking about Star Citizens
• 1:07:36
  still. Oh.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah, I know all. Right.
• 1:07:40
  We haven't had eugenics. Work yet?
• 1:07:43
  Yeah, yeah. So I guess it'd be till next
• 1:07:47
  year. We're still on track with that
• 1:07:48
  timeline I have. Education though, don't know if
• 1:07:52
  that's going to happen. Yeah, I don't think so.
• 1:07:56
  But it can't be 100% correct. Yeah, I, I, I do think a
• 1:08:02
  rudimentary base building, you know, something like you could
• 1:08:06
  put a HAB down, you know, we could see that, a test build,
• 1:08:14
  but honestly, you know, not really seeing too much other
• 1:08:20
  than that. I mean, I think they're really
• 1:08:22
  going to be concentrating on like weather and visuals rather
• 1:08:25
  than gameplay. That's the saddest take I think
• 1:08:30
  we've gotten. I love snow.
• 1:08:32
  Yeah, yeah, Snow too. I'm happy it's coming in, don't
• 1:08:36
  get me wrong. But you know.
• 1:08:39
  Yeah, you know, we need, we need bases in crafting before we need
• 1:08:43
  snow. To reach his own with that.
• 1:08:47
  I I don't agree with Snow, but in the game, yeah.
• 1:08:52
  Oh, like in, in, Yeah, in real life, I'm not a fan of snow.
• 1:08:56
  I love looking at it a little bit.
• 1:08:58
  Someone who lives in LA, what is snow?
• 1:09:03
  Over there you call it Cocainia. Cocainia.
• 1:09:07
  Cocainia a little different. Yeah, OK, so they had.
• 1:09:11
  I've been to LA. You guys got a lot of mirrors, a
• 1:09:13
  lot of mirrors in that city. Let me tell you, Wicket, next
• 1:09:18
  couple patches, what do you think you're going to?
• 1:09:21
  See Vault tears, controversy and a lot of explaining and you
• 1:09:34
  know, more or less, more of the same what we've seen all year
• 1:09:38
  and every other year that we've been doing this.
• 1:09:42
  I'm not too hopeful for the rest of the year, to be quite honest
• 1:09:45
  with you. Wow.
• 1:09:47
  Do you think coming in you play, if you play these, this new
• 1:09:50
  content that Murphy jacking and Hobart talking about, do you
• 1:09:53
  think it'll turn you around? Think you'll turn that frown
• 1:09:55
  upside down if you really enjoy it?
• 1:09:59
  Doubtful, but I don't know man. It's just, I just have no, my
• 1:10:06
  enthusiasm for, for SC has just kind of the, the balloon, the,
• 1:10:11
  the, the, the air's gone out of the balloon.
• 1:10:13
  Man, they'd really have to, you know, they'd really have to
• 1:10:19
  bring something really awesome and new and, and something
• 1:10:23
  really attractive to me and my gaming experience that I'd want
• 1:10:27
  to take part in to, to get me to be excited and to get back into
• 1:10:32
  it. I mean, the only thing I do for
• 1:10:34
  these, these, these joysticks anymore is dust them.
• 1:10:38
  That's about it. Well, dust in your joystick is
• 1:10:42
  doesn't mean what I think you it.
• 1:10:45
  It means that too. It means that as well.
• 1:10:50
  But yeah, I mean, you know, I was super, super hopeful, but
• 1:10:54
  everything I've seen so far, it's it's, it's just been 1 long
• 1:10:59
  disappointment after another. I mean, I'm, I, I hate to be a
• 1:11:02
  Debbie Downer, but I'm, I'm just not.
• 1:11:05
  I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just not seeing it.
• 1:11:07
  I'm hopeful for things to be better, but I'm just not seeing
• 1:11:11
  the results. But the Sonics facilities
• 1:11:14
  though, man, those things are amazing.
• 1:11:17
  They are. Once the game goes live after a
• 1:11:20
  couple of days, I'll get into it and see.
• 1:11:24
  All right. And who?
• 1:11:24
  Who here has finished their resource drive about?
• 1:11:28
  Halfway. Down a little over halfway, I.
• 1:11:31
  Haven't even started, don't even care.
• 1:11:34
  Hurston. Interesting.
• 1:11:36
  Hurston. I I haven't finished it either,
• 1:11:39
  but I was pretty pissed off about the the IS well ISC or
• 1:11:43
  whatever, the gaslighting about the elevators.
• 1:11:47
  Jared's apology episode. Yeah, total.
• 1:11:52
  Oh for, you know, like one in 1000 people.
• 1:11:54
  Like, shut up, dude. One in 1000 people.
• 1:11:59
  Oh so rare we couldn't really track it.
• 1:12:01
  Shut up. You know what he said.
• 1:12:05
  It is what he said. They turned it out and they
• 1:12:09
  they, they framed it as they minimized it and it said it
• 1:12:13
  looked like it was so rare. That's.
• 1:12:15
  What he heard. It acted like it was so rare
• 1:12:20
  that, you know, they, they, they couldn't have really seen this
• 1:12:23
  coming. Yeah, but people were saying it
• 1:12:26
  was going to happen on the PTU and, and cargo elevators have
• 1:12:28
  always been an issue. You know, and that's the thing.
• 1:12:31
  It's like it's always been an issue to base an entire event on
• 1:12:38
  cargo elevators and then act like, well, we didn't know they
• 1:12:41
  were going to break. And, and, and we just, we need
• 1:12:44
  that much more data because it's so rare.
• 1:12:46
  We haven't really seen it. Come on, come on.
• 1:12:49
  They they knew. Yeah, they knew.
• 1:12:53
  There's no way they didn't know. They just didn't really care.
• 1:12:56
  Yeah, and I think, I think that's what hurts the most.
• 1:12:59
  Yeah. I know I don't think we watched
• 1:13:02
  the same episode but OK. It is very dude.
• 1:13:05
  So I, I, and thank you everyone. Yesterday we didn't record the
• 1:13:09
  show. I had LASIK surgery.
• 1:13:12
  And if you want to talk about lies when you have that surgery
• 1:13:17
  and they tell you, Oh yeah, you'll be fine.
• 1:13:19
  Like 4 to 5 hours after it, you'll be able to like go on, go
• 1:13:22
  on your computer and stuff. Total lies.
• 1:13:26
  First of all, I'm a vampire. Can't any light was so damaging.
• 1:13:30
  But second of all, my eyes were completely swollen shut and I
• 1:13:34
  was just crying the whole the whole time afterward.
• 1:13:37
  Now I'm now I'm fine. But they really played down the
• 1:13:41
  Yeah, the Speaking of playing down, it really played down the
• 1:13:45
  the symptoms. Dude, I can see things.
• 1:13:49
  Yeah, it's wild. Dude.
• 1:13:51
  All I had to do was swipe my credit card and let someone beam
• 1:13:55
  into my eye. He blasted my eye.
• 1:13:59
  I mean if you want to talk about sci-fi dude, this experience.
• 1:14:02
  First of all, every tool in these in this place I went to
• 1:14:07
  looked like it was a 1950s version of the future.
• 1:14:15
  There were, there were rings of red light that I like had to
• 1:14:19
  stare into. There were small little
• 1:14:21
  computers that made little like like noises and stuff.
• 1:14:26
  And they're like follow the light and everything looked like
• 1:14:31
  like tricolour, like everything I'm looking at was like, you
• 1:14:34
  know, when they first had like colour TV's and stuff and they
• 1:14:37
  were like tricolour TV. And they had like the old
• 1:14:41
  footage or those those old maybe in like the Bond movies how you
• 1:14:44
  have those multi colored like circles pan across the screen
• 1:14:49
  like everything looked like that.
• 1:14:51
  And then you go into a room and he shoots a laser into your eye.
• 1:14:55
  He. Just walks up his hair.
• 1:14:58
  Look. And of course my my doctor was
• 1:15:01
  Eastern European as well. We have a lot we.
• 1:15:05
  Can do a lot. We can do a lot.
• 1:15:07
  That's this is cool. Yes.
• 1:15:09
  It's like, do you have any questions?
• 1:15:12
  Any laser company? Yeah, that worked.
• 1:15:16
  Really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:18
  Just the Roadrunner and Wally Coyote did the Sir.
• 1:15:21
  It is. It is, yeah.
• 1:15:25
  So if you, if you do ever get that, the and the five hours
• 1:15:28
  after it are actually going to be pretty painful.
• 1:15:31
  They play that down, so you just try to knock yourself out, but
• 1:15:35
  they say like, don't rub your eyes, don't touch your eyes,
• 1:15:37
  don't rub your eyes. And then they give you eye
• 1:15:39
  drops. The eye drops make your eyes
• 1:15:42
  itch like crazy. So it's a little sadistic.
• 1:15:46
  Did you? Get like a You think they just
• 1:15:48
  did that just to do it you? Had the cone of shame.
• 1:15:54
  I have. I have these these terrible
• 1:15:57
  sunglasses on all the time. I'm wearing them right now.
• 1:15:59
  It's night time. Oh, you wear sunglasses at
• 1:16:02
  night, huh? I'm just.
• 1:16:03
  Picturing you in a dog cone of shame.
• 1:16:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be kind of funny, but
• 1:16:08
  I had a friend of mine who had that Slavic surgery and he had
• 1:16:12
  he ever since he's had it, he's had migraines consistently.
• 1:16:17
  Yeah. Oh wow.
• 1:16:18
  Never had them before. Dude don't do this to me.
• 1:16:21
  I hope not. I haven't had any migraines yet,
• 1:16:24
  so. Well they also have the new
• 1:16:27
  thing busy and ICL where where they basically they take a
• 1:16:32
  contact lens and like sew it to your eye.
• 1:16:35
  What? Dad has that.
• 1:16:40
  Think about that one. Yeah, when it's new.
• 1:16:42
  They slice off like your the the top of your eye and they sew a
• 1:16:47
  new lens on top my. My dad did that like 20 years
• 1:16:51
  ago though. Yeah, well, yeah, it's been
• 1:16:52
  around forever. But when then when you look at
• 1:16:56
  somebody who has that, they have this, this twinkle in their eye
• 1:16:59
  all the time. They're a twinkle on their.
• 1:17:07
  Eye just just thinking of a twinkle, like like good, like an
• 1:17:09
  old Disney movie, you know? Literally the the light will
• 1:17:13
  reflect off of their eye in a certain.
• 1:17:15
  It looks like a twinkle. Man my mom had it too before she
• 1:17:18
  passed and it was weird but I mean it helps their vision.
• 1:17:23
  It's for cataracts. Yeah, hum the Disney.
• 1:17:28
  Song but the copyright bots will kill us.
• 1:17:34
  There's copyright bots. Twitch.
• 1:17:38
  Oh man. Oh yeah, we get, I get
• 1:17:43
  copyrights every time I put a like a trailer in.
• 1:17:47
  Like the last episode I put the Superman trailer in.
• 1:17:50
  In a world right? It's OK, but it's a trailer so
• 1:17:53
  you can use. It imitate trailers.
• 1:17:57
  One man gets a copyright strike. Have have have any of you guys
• 1:18:02
  watched the the new alien Earth? Yes.
• 1:18:06
  Yes, OK, I watched the first episode, which was excellent.
• 1:18:13
  It was pretty good. And it's I'm like, oh God, not
• 1:18:19
  again. It's it's after that it's no
• 1:18:23
  good in my mind. I don't know.
• 1:18:24
  If you I don't know what you're talking.
• 1:18:27
  It's it's kind of dumb. It's.
• 1:18:32
  Derivative all. No, no.
• 1:18:36
  No, it's it's, it's a prequel to the Alien franchise.
• 1:18:40
  Oof. All right, hold up, hold up.
• 1:18:44
  Can I just say I don't need any more prequel?
• 1:18:46
  Thank you for anything. An alien, none of that shit
• 1:18:52
  really even matters cause like the movies skip hundreds of
• 1:18:55
  years between them. So it really doesn't matter.
• 1:18:58
  But the, the core of like alien is that grab for power, you
• 1:19:06
  know, that corporate grab for power.
• 1:19:07
  And then there is they they actually introduced that in a
• 1:19:11
  new and interesting way that isn't repeated, you know, like,
• 1:19:15
  like it, it, it, it, it, it it's kind of cool, you know, and you
• 1:19:21
  know, obviously in the story you see this in the trailer is that,
• 1:19:25
  you know, you get this kid and they put her into A to an adult
• 1:19:30
  body and that. Go into spoilers now.
• 1:19:34
  That isn't really a spoiler, but it's in the trailer.
• 1:19:36
  But I mean, it's, it's one of those things that that
• 1:19:39
  introduces an interesting element to it that I actually
• 1:19:42
  really like. They nailed the damn aesthetic.
• 1:19:46
  Like it looks, it looks like the, you know, the 70s or it
• 1:19:51
  looks like 1980 when you know, I mean, it looks good.
• 1:19:55
  It looks, it looks like alien. And, and I, and I think that
• 1:20:00
  they've, they've introduced some interesting things to it that
• 1:20:05
  that is fresh and, and it, and it can go in a lot of, in a lot
• 1:20:10
  of ways, but I think that for the 1st 2 episodes that it, it,
• 1:20:14
  it's really good. All right, sounds good to me.
• 1:20:19
  So what we're going to do is we're coming up on the end of
• 1:20:21
  the show here. Wild Card.
• 1:20:22
  I don't know if you know that at the end of every episode, we
• 1:20:25
  just go around and I ask everyone if they have something
• 1:20:28
  that they'd like to say to Chris Roberts, CIG or the people on
• 1:20:32
  the Internet. And so Wild, you are our our
• 1:20:36
  last guest. We're going to go backwards this
• 1:20:38
  time. So, Wild Card, is there anything
• 1:20:40
  you want to say to CIG Chris Roberts with people on the
• 1:20:43
  Internet? Yeah, a long time fan, been
• 1:20:46
  playing Chris Roberts game since Wing Commander 1 and I have
• 1:20:50
  haven't missed a single one. And I know that you know the I'm
• 1:20:57
  greatly looking forward to Square and 42 and I've been
• 1:21:01
  enjoying spending time with you guys in Star Cities.
• 1:21:09
  Thank you. Very good, very good.
• 1:21:13
  Who do we have here? We're going backwards.
• 1:21:15
  I think it was Murphy Jack. Murphy, Jack, Anything you want
• 1:21:17
  to say to CIG, Chris Roberts or the people on?
• 1:21:21
  Internet is the keep working on this story.
• 1:21:25
  You got something here for sure. Neat.
• 1:21:31
  All right, Lord Anubis, anything you want to say to CIG, Chris
• 1:21:36
  Roberts or the people on the Internet?
• 1:21:38
  Yes, First to CIG. You knew the thing about the
• 1:21:43
  elevators. Come on, stop.
• 1:21:47
  Just just just work on this, you know, listen to people, to Chris
• 1:21:51
  Roberts. Yeah, keep selling chips.
• 1:21:54
  That's fine. Just give us something to care
• 1:21:56
  about in the game that is ours, that we can build upon, that we
• 1:21:59
  can care about and that we can trade with.
• 1:22:02
  And that's really what's going to keep this game going for the
• 1:22:07
  next 10 years and fellowships, that's fine.
• 1:22:11
  Just make them available in Game 2.
• 1:22:12
  That's it. And for the people on the
• 1:22:14
  Internet, well, there's there's like one person that's not us
• 1:22:20
  listening. So I.
• 1:22:23
  Could be that bad. I'll I'll I'll have you know we
• 1:22:25
  have a handful of listeners. We have a solid handful of
• 1:22:32
  regular listeners now, so you, you're, you're.
• 1:22:37
  One hand, one hand. You're popular if you if you.
• 1:22:42
  It's a good handful though, that one.
• 1:22:43
  It's a good handful, yeah. It's got enough in it, yeah.
• 1:22:47
  Yeah, I better pull them. All right, wicked, anything you
• 1:22:51
  want to see to CIG, Chris Roberts or the people on your
• 1:22:53
  net? Sandy, Chris, Sandy.
• 1:22:59
  Hold em. Hold em to account.
• 1:23:00
  Hold Chris Roberts to account. And both of you work really,
• 1:23:04
  really hard to prove me wrong. I dare you.
• 1:23:10
  Love it, love it, love it. All right, Cosmic Hoba, you are
• 1:23:13
  the Co host. I think before we end the show,
• 1:23:15
  we forgot about our special announcement.
• 1:23:16
  We're supposed to do it in the beginning of the episode.
• 1:23:19
  Oh yeah, so Open Comms is going to have an in person live show
• 1:23:26
  at the upcoming DC Bar Citizen live stream for Citizen Citizen
• 1:23:32
  Con Direct. Awesome.
• 1:23:36
  The plan so far I believe is a pre show and a post show,
• 1:23:41
  although you're going to be competing with Jared probably
• 1:23:43
  for time for that pre show. Oh is Jared also doing a pre
• 1:23:48
  show? Maybe.
• 1:23:50
  I I, I Yeah, I know it's a maybe yeah.
• 1:23:55
  I spoke to Tyler about Oh yeah, CI GS coming too.
• 1:23:59
  That was that hardware. And I was speaking to Tyler
• 1:24:03
  about it and asked him about a pre show and he didn't he wasn't
• 1:24:06
  quite sure yet if Jared and he I mean there's a high chance that
• 1:24:11
  Jared just going to vamp for like 30 minutes ahead of time.
• 1:24:14
  So he. Finished the new ship.
• 1:24:18
  He's just going to probably hurt himself and trip and fall again.
• 1:24:22
  And he's going to get some very subdued, laid back dev to
• 1:24:24
  explain the art behind the ship and how it's revolutionary and
• 1:24:28
  how it's an inspiration. Maybe Jonas Jonas.
• 1:24:35
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:38
  Yeah, we'll get we'll get Jonas on on next episode next week.
• 1:24:42
  So Oprah comms are back to the the weekly episodes Cosmic.
• 1:24:48
  You did it buddy. Yeah, that, that, that was here.
• 1:24:52
  Thank you for Co hosting today. Hopefully we'll have TAEV back
• 1:24:56
  sooner rather than later. I don't know exactly when it's
• 1:24:58
  coming back and unlike CIGI am not going to promise a time I'm
• 1:25:03
  not certain of so. But we'll be back next week.
• 1:25:06
  We're going to keep it going weekly here on Open Comms Radio
• 1:25:11
  Cosmic Hobo. Thank you for Co hosting today.
• 1:25:13
  Why don't you play us out? Oh, trying to think of any
• 1:25:18
  copyrighted. Songs.