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- 0:52You
- 0:52know,
- 0:52we
- 0:53often
- 0:53watch
- 0:53football
- 0:54games
- 0:54that
- 0:54at
- 0:54the
- 0:54end
- 0:55of
- 0:55each
- 0:55field
- 0:55we
- 0:56have
- 0:56these
- 0:56structures
- 0:57that
- 0:58become
- 0:58quite
- 0:59popular,
- 0:59especially
- 1:00at
- 1:00the
- 1:00end
- 1:00of
- 1:00games,
- 1:00because
- 1:01they
- 1:01usually
- 1:01mean
- 1:01points.
- 1:02Well,
- 1:02Timothy
- 1:03B.
- 1:03Brown
- 1:03of
- 1:03FootballArchaeology.com
- 1:04joins
- 1:05us
- 1:05today
- 1:05to
- 1:05tell
- 1:05us
- 1:05about
- 1:06the
- 1:06history
- 1:06of
- 1:06the
- 1:06goal
- 1:07posts.
- 1:07Tim,
- 1:07welcome
- 1:08back
- 1:08to
- 1:08the
- 1:08Pig
- 1:08Pen.
- 1:09Hey
- 1:09there.
- 1:10Good
- 1:10to
- 1:10chat
- 1:10and
- 1:11looking
- 1:11forward
- 1:11to
- 1:11kind
- 1:12of
- 1:12tearing
- 1:12things
- 1:12down
- 1:13as
- 1:13we
- 1:13talk
- 1:13about
- 1:13a
- 1:13post.
- 1:15Tearing
- 1:15things
- 1:16down
- 1:16as
- 1:16you
- 1:16talk
- 1:16about
- 1:17a
- 1:17post.
- 1:17Oh,
- 1:17boy,
- 1:18I
- 1:18haven't
- 1:18seen
- 1:18one
- 1:18of
- 1:19those
- 1:19games
- 1:19in
- 1:19a
- 1:19while
- 1:19where
- 1:20the
- 1:20crowd
- 1:20tears
- 1:20them
- 1:21down,
- 1:21but
- 1:22used
- 1:22to
- 1:22be
- 1:22quite
- 1:22popular
- 1:23in
- 1:23the
- 1:2370s
- 1:24and
- 1:2480s,
- 1:24weren't
- 1:25they?
- 1:25Yeah.
- 1:25And
- 1:25even
- 1:26before
- 1:26that,
- 1:26there,
- 1:26there's
- 1:27a
- 1:27lot
- 1:27of.
- 1:28I
- 1:28mean,
- 1:28we
- 1:28think
- 1:28people
- 1:29tore
- 1:29things
- 1:29down,
- 1:30but
- 1:30man,
- 1:31in
- 1:31like
- 1:31the
- 1:3120s
- 1:31and
- 1:3230s,
- 1:32it
- 1:32was
- 1:32like
- 1:32every
- 1:33game
- 1:33people
- 1:33would
- 1:34do
- 1:34that.
- 1:35Yeah.
- 1:35I
- 1:35can't
- 1:36even
- 1:36imagine
- 1:36how
- 1:36much
- 1:37those
- 1:37things
- 1:37must
- 1:37cost
- 1:38nowadays
- 1:38at
- 1:39these
- 1:39stadiums
- 1:39and
- 1:40probably
- 1:40an
- 1:40expensive
- 1:41endeavor
- 1:41if
- 1:41somebody
- 1:42rips
- 1:42them
- 1:42down
- 1:42today.
- 1:43Yeah.
- 1:44So,
- 1:44but
- 1:45okay,
- 1:45you,
- 1:45you
- 1:46recently
- 1:46wrote
- 1:47an
- 1:47article,
- 1:47and
- 1:47that's
- 1:47why
- 1:48we're
- 1:48talking
- 1:48about
- 1:48this,
- 1:49called
- 1:49the
- 1:49History
- 1:50of
- 1:50the
- 1:50Goal
- 1:51Post.
- 1:51And.
- 1:51Well,
- 1:52can
- 1:52you
- 1:52tell
- 1:52us
- 1:52about
- 1:52the
- 1:53history
- 1:53of
- 1:53these
- 1:53fine
- 1:54pieces
- 1:54of
- 1:55art,
- 1:56I
- 1:56would
- 1:56call
- 1:56them
- 1:56at
- 1:57the
- 1:57end
- 1:57of
- 1:57each.
- 1:58Well,
- 2:00yeah,
- 2:00so
- 2:00it's
- 2:01actually
- 2:01like
- 2:01two
- 2:01weeks
- 2:01ago,
- 2:01I
- 2:02think
- 2:02it
- 2:02was,
- 2:02we
- 2:02were
- 2:02talking
- 2:02about
- 2:03goal
- 2:03posts
- 2:04and
- 2:04I
- 2:04said,
- 2:04you
- 2:05know,
- 2:05when
- 2:05they
- 2:06originally
- 2:06made
- 2:07them,
- 2:09like
- 2:09really
- 2:09the
- 2:10first
- 2:10few
- 2:10years,
- 2:11they
- 2:12just
- 2:12erect
- 2:12two
- 2:13posts
- 2:13and
- 2:14then
- 2:14put
- 2:14a
- 2:15string
- 2:15between
- 2:16the
- 2:17posts
- 2:17like
- 2:1810ft
- 2:18off
- 2:18the
- 2:18ground.
- 2:19Right.
- 2:19And,
- 2:20and
- 2:20you
- 2:20know,
- 2:20that
- 2:21was
- 2:21kind
- 2:21of
- 2:21the
- 2:21case
- 2:21like
- 2:22earlier
- 2:23on,
- 2:24you
- 2:24know,
- 2:25back
- 2:25in
- 2:25England,
- 2:25you
- 2:26know,
- 2:26when
- 2:26they,
- 2:26when
- 2:26they
- 2:27were
- 2:27playing
- 2:27both
- 2:27soccer
- 2:28and
- 2:28rugby,
- 2:28you
- 2:28know,
- 2:28if
- 2:29you
- 2:29kick
- 2:29the
- 2:29ball
- 2:29under
- 2:30that
- 2:31rope
- 2:31or
- 2:32crossbar
- 2:33for
- 2:34soccer
- 2:34and
- 2:34you
- 2:35kicked
- 2:35it
- 2:35over
- 2:35for
- 2:35rugby.
- 2:36Right.
- 2:36And
- 2:37so
- 2:38that
- 2:38was
- 2:38kind
- 2:38of
- 2:38the
- 2:39original
- 2:40thing
- 2:40going
- 2:41on.
- 2:41Maybe
- 2:41play
- 2:41a
- 2:42game
- 2:42of
- 2:42badminton
- 2:42after,
- 2:43afterwards.
- 2:43Right.
- 2:44Or
- 2:44croquet.
- 2:46Okay.
- 2:48But
- 2:48like,
- 2:48you
- 2:49know,
- 2:49when
- 2:49they,
- 2:49when
- 2:50go
- 2:50post
- 2:50began,
- 2:51they
- 2:51were
- 2:51all
- 2:51the,
- 2:52you
- 2:52know,
- 2:52what
- 2:52I'll
- 2:52just
- 2:52call
- 2:53the
- 2:53H
- 2:53style.
- 2:54Right.
- 2:54Kind
- 2:54of
- 2:54the
- 2:54traditional
- 2:55two
- 2:55post
- 2:55and
- 2:56a
- 2:56crossbar.
- 2:57And
- 2:57they
- 2:57were
- 2:57planted
- 2:58on
- 2:58the
- 2:58goal
- 2:59line,
- 2:59which
- 2:59is
- 2:59why
- 3:00it's
- 3:00called
- 3:00the
- 3:01goal
- 3:01line.
- 3:01Right.
- 3:03And
- 3:04so,
- 3:05so
- 3:05that
- 3:05went
- 3:06on,
- 3:06you
- 3:06know,
- 3:06for
- 3:07long,
- 3:07long
- 3:07time.
- 3:07And
- 3:08you
- 3:08know,
- 3:08a
- 3:08lot
- 3:09of
- 3:09them
- 3:09were
- 3:09just,
- 3:10especially
- 3:11the,
- 3:12like
- 3:12small
- 3:12towns.
- 3:13I
- 3:13mean,
- 3:13they
- 3:13just,
- 3:14I
- 3:14did
- 3:14a
- 3:15post
- 3:15one
- 3:15time
- 3:15about
- 3:15them
- 3:16just,
- 3:17just
- 3:17images
- 3:17of
- 3:18just
- 3:18really
- 3:18cheesy
- 3:19beat
- 3:20up
- 3:20like
- 3:20crooked
- 3:21goal
- 3:21posts.
- 3:21I
- 3:21mean,
- 3:22it
- 3:22was
- 3:22just
- 3:22the
- 3:22best
- 3:22they
- 3:22could
- 3:23do
- 3:23with
- 3:23scrap
- 3:24lumber.
- 3:24Right.
- 3:26But
- 3:27so
- 3:27anyways,
- 3:29you
- 3:29know,
- 3:29so
- 3:29they.
- 3:30The
- 3:31goal
- 3:31posts
- 3:32were
- 3:32on
- 3:32the
- 3:32goal
- 3:32line
- 3:33from
- 3:34the
- 3:34beginning,
- 3:35but
- 3:35they
- 3:35got
- 3:35in
- 3:36the
- 3:36way.
- 3:36You
- 3:36know,
- 3:36and
- 3:37so
- 3:37their
- 3:38stories
- 3:38of.
- 3:40And
- 3:40the
- 3:41way
- 3:41I
- 3:41told
- 3:41this
- 3:42particular
- 3:42tidbit,
- 3:43I
- 3:43was
- 3:43focused
- 3:43on
- 3:43Harvard,
- 3:44Yale,
- 3:44because,
- 3:45like,
- 3:45in
- 3:451899,
- 3:46there
- 3:46was
- 3:47a
- 3:48Harvard
- 3:48player
- 3:49was
- 3:49trying
- 3:50to
- 3:50score.
- 3:51You
- 3:51know,
- 3:51they
- 3:51had
- 3:51the
- 3:51ball
- 3:51on
- 3:52the
- 3:52two
- 3:52or
- 3:52something
- 3:52like
- 3:53that,
- 3:53and,
- 3:53you
- 3:54know,
- 3:54ends
- 3:54up
- 3:54running
- 3:55at
- 3:55the
- 3:55goal
- 3:55posts,
- 3:56you
- 3:56know,
- 3:56and
- 3:57the
- 3:57Yale
- 3:58defenders
- 3:58kind
- 3:59of
- 3:59brace
- 3:59themselves
- 4:00against
- 4:00the
- 4:00posts
- 4:01and
- 4:01are
- 4:01able
- 4:01to
- 4:01stop
- 4:02the
- 4:02Harvard
- 4:02runner,
- 4:03and
- 4:03then
- 4:03they
- 4:03end
- 4:03up
- 4:03either
- 4:04losing
- 4:04or
- 4:04tying.
- 4:06And
- 4:06then
- 4:07similar
- 4:08thing
- 4:08happened
- 4:08a
- 4:08few
- 4:09years
- 4:09later,
- 4:09except
- 4:10the
- 4:10Harvard
- 4:10runner.
- 4:11Absolutely.
- 4:12They
- 4:12ran
- 4:12into
- 4:13the
- 4:13goalpost
- 4:13and
- 4:14fell
- 4:14back.
- 4:15So
- 4:15it
- 4:15wasn't
- 4:16even
- 4:16a
- 4:16defender
- 4:17that
- 4:17stopped
- 4:17him.
- 4:18But.
- 4:18But.
- 4:19So
- 4:19the
- 4:19point
- 4:19is
- 4:19that
- 4:20they
- 4:20got
- 4:20in
- 4:20the
- 4:20way.
- 4:20You
- 4:21know,
- 4:21they.
- 4:21And
- 4:22this
- 4:22is
- 4:22before
- 4:22the
- 4:22forward
- 4:23pass,
- 4:24so.
- 4:24But
- 4:24they
- 4:24just.
- 4:25They
- 4:25got
- 4:25in
- 4:26the
- 4:26way
- 4:26and
- 4:26they
- 4:26were
- 4:26an
- 4:27obstacle.
- 4:28And
- 4:28so
- 4:29after
- 4:29that,
- 4:291899,
- 4:30eventually
- 4:31there
- 4:31was
- 4:32a
- 4:32Harvard
- 4:32guy,
- 4:34Edward
- 4:35Manley,
- 4:36who
- 4:36invented
- 4:36what
- 4:37was
- 4:37called
- 4:37the
- 4:38safety
- 4:38goalpost.
- 4:40And
- 4:41it's.
- 4:42You
- 4:42know,
- 4:42if
- 4:43you
- 4:43look
- 4:43at
- 4:43old
- 4:43pictures,
- 4:44you'll
- 4:44see
- 4:44these
- 4:45things
- 4:45popping
- 4:45up
- 4:45from
- 4:46time
- 4:46to
- 4:46time.
- 4:47And
- 4:47he
- 4:47patented.
- 4:48You
- 4:48know,
- 4:48he
- 4:48has
- 4:48a
- 4:48patent
- 4:49on
- 4:49him,
- 4:49but
- 4:50it
- 4:50was
- 4:50basically,
- 4:51he
- 4:51had
- 4:51the
- 4:51two
- 4:51posts
- 4:52like
- 4:52normal,
- 4:53but
- 4:53they
- 4:53were
- 4:54planted
- 4:54like
- 4:55three
- 4:55to
- 4:55four,
- 4:56even
- 4:56five
- 4:57yards
- 4:57behind
- 4:57the
- 4:58goal
- 4:58line.
- 4:59And
- 4:59then.
- 5:00So
- 5:00you'd
- 5:01have
- 5:01a
- 5:01kind
- 5:02of
- 5:02a.
- 5:02You'd
- 5:03have
- 5:03a
- 5:03post,
- 5:04and
- 5:04then.
- 5:05Then
- 5:05you'd
- 5:05have
- 5:06like,
- 5:06an
- 5:06extension
- 5:06and
- 5:07bracing
- 5:07that
- 5:08would
- 5:08hold
- 5:08up
- 5:09the
- 5:09uprights
- 5:10that
- 5:10were
- 5:10actually
- 5:11over
- 5:11the
- 5:12goal
- 5:12line.
- 5:13Right.
- 5:13So
- 5:13the
- 5:13posts
- 5:14were
- 5:14several
- 5:14yards
- 5:14off
- 5:15the
- 5:15line,
- 5:15but
- 5:16the
- 5:16uprights
- 5:16and
- 5:17the
- 5:17crossbar
- 5:17were
- 5:18over
- 5:18the
- 5:18goal
- 5:18line.
- 5:19And
- 5:20in
- 5:20his
- 5:20patent,
- 5:21he
- 5:21shows
- 5:22a
- 5:22single,
- 5:23you
- 5:23know,
- 5:23single
- 5:24post
- 5:24design.
- 5:25But
- 5:25I
- 5:25think,
- 5:26you
- 5:26know,
- 5:26they
- 5:26were
- 5:26making
- 5:26them
- 5:27out
- 5:27of
- 5:27wood,
- 5:27and
- 5:27he
- 5:27probably,
- 5:27he.
- 5:28They
- 5:28just
- 5:28couldn't
- 5:29figure
- 5:29out
- 5:29how
- 5:29to.
- 5:29How
- 5:30to
- 5:30support
- 5:30all
- 5:30that
- 5:30weight
- 5:31on
- 5:31that
- 5:32one
- 5:32post.
- 5:33So
- 5:33anyways,
- 5:34I've
- 5:34never
- 5:34seen
- 5:34an
- 5:35image
- 5:35of
- 5:35one
- 5:35of
- 5:35those
- 5:36early
- 5:36ones,
- 5:37but.
- 5:38So
- 5:38everybody
- 5:38used
- 5:39either
- 5:39the
- 5:40H
- 5:41design
- 5:41or
- 5:42the
- 5:42safety
- 5:42goal
- 5:43post
- 5:43design.
- 5:44And
- 5:45I
- 5:46think
- 5:46part
- 5:46of
- 5:46the
- 5:46reason
- 5:47why
- 5:47his
- 5:48goal
- 5:48posts,
- 5:49while
- 5:49the
- 5:49safety
- 5:50goal
- 5:50post
- 5:50didn't
- 5:50turn
- 5:50out
- 5:51to
- 5:51be
- 5:51that
- 5:52popular
- 5:52is
- 5:53that
- 5:53he
- 5:53charged
- 5:5350
- 5:54bucks
- 5:54for
- 5:54every
- 5:54installation.
- 5:55And
- 5:55so
- 5:56you
- 5:56probably
- 5:57didn't
- 5:57collect
- 5:57on
- 5:57all
- 5:57of
- 5:58them,
- 5:58but,
- 5:58you
- 5:58know,
- 5:59that.
- 5:59That
- 5:59would
- 5:59have
- 5:59kept
- 6:0050
- 6:00bucks
- 6:00was,
- 6:00you
- 6:01know,
- 6:01some
- 6:01pretty
- 6:01good
- 6:01money
- 6:01back
- 6:02then.
- 6:02Yeah.
- 6:04So.
- 6:05And
- 6:05then.
- 6:06So
- 6:06just
- 6:06another
- 6:06little
- 6:07thing
- 6:07on
- 6:07the
- 6:07evolution
- 6:08of
- 6:08goal
- 6:08posts,
- 6:09I
- 6:09found
- 6:10there's
- 6:10a
- 6:10lot
- 6:10of,
- 6:11like,
- 6:11a
- 6:11lot
- 6:11of
- 6:11things
- 6:12Amos
- 6:13Alonzo
- 6:13Stagg
- 6:14is
- 6:14credited
- 6:14with
- 6:14being
- 6:15the
- 6:15guy
- 6:15who
- 6:15padded
- 6:16the
- 6:16first
- 6:16goal
- 6:16post.
- 6:17But
- 6:17he
- 6:18didn't.
- 6:18You
- 6:18know,
- 6:18there
- 6:19was.
- 6:20I
- 6:20found
- 6:21examples
- 6:21from
- 6:22like
- 6:221896
- 6:23of
- 6:24places
- 6:24that
- 6:24padded
- 6:25their
- 6:25goal
- 6:25post.
- 6:25And
- 6:26then
- 6:27like,
- 6:27I've
- 6:28read
- 6:28things
- 6:28like,
- 6:29you
- 6:29know,
- 6:29stag
- 6:31saying
- 6:31stag
- 6:31invented
- 6:32them,
- 6:32but,
- 6:33you
- 6:33know,
- 6:33they
- 6:33were
- 6:33out
- 6:34there.
- 6:34And
- 6:34I've
- 6:34got
- 6:34images
- 6:35and
- 6:35I
- 6:35think
- 6:35I've
- 6:36got
- 6:36them
- 6:36in
- 6:36the.
- 6:37In
- 6:37the
- 6:37tidbit
- 6:39images
- 6:39of
- 6:39padded
- 6:40goalposts.
- 6:42And
- 6:42yet
- 6:42in
- 6:421905,
- 6:45Chicago
- 6:46Field
- 6:46still
- 6:46didn't
- 6:47have
- 6:47padded
- 6:47goalposts.
- 6:48So,
- 6:48you
- 6:49know,
- 6:49he
- 6:49clearly
- 6:49wasn't.
- 6:51Wasn't
- 6:51invented
- 6:51him.
- 6:51He
- 6:52didn't
- 6:52use
- 6:52them.
- 6:52Right?
- 6:52Yeah,
- 6:53yeah,
- 6:53exactly.
- 6:53It's
- 6:54like,
- 6:54yeah,
- 6:54sorry,
- 6:54I
- 6:55don't
- 6:55believe
- 6:55that.
- 6:561906,
- 6:56yet
- 6:57he
- 6:57wrapped
- 6:57a
- 6:57mattress
- 6:58around
- 6:59the
- 6:59post.
- 6:59So
- 7:00anyways,
- 7:02so
- 7:02then
- 7:02you
- 7:03get
- 7:03into
- 7:03the
- 7:03whole,
- 7:03okay,
- 7:04goal
- 7:04line
- 7:04versus
- 7:05inline.
- 7:06And
- 7:06so
- 7:07it
- 7:07was
- 7:07always
- 7:07on
- 7:07the
- 7:07goal
- 7:08line.
- 7:08And
- 7:08then
- 7:09in
- 7:09college,
- 7:10they
- 7:11were
- 7:14the,
- 7:14you
- 7:15know,
- 7:15and
- 7:15they
- 7:15moved.
- 7:16They
- 7:16moved
- 7:16the
- 7:16goal
- 7:17post
- 7:17to
- 7:17the
- 7:18end
- 7:18line
- 7:18in
- 7:1827.
- 7:20And
- 7:20the
- 7:20rationale
- 7:21is
- 7:21kind
- 7:21of
- 7:21somewhat
- 7:22safety
- 7:22oriented,
- 7:23but
- 7:23it
- 7:23was
- 7:23also,
- 7:24you
- 7:24know,
- 7:25back
- 7:25then,
- 7:25you
- 7:25didn't
- 7:25have,
- 7:27you
- 7:27didn't
- 7:27have
- 7:27hash
- 7:28marks.
- 7:29And
- 7:29so,
- 7:29you
- 7:29know,
- 7:30you
- 7:30could
- 7:30have
- 7:30the
- 7:30ball
- 7:31way
- 7:32over
- 7:32near
- 7:32the.
- 7:33The
- 7:33sideline.
- 7:34Right?
- 7:34I
- 7:34mean,
- 7:34you
- 7:34could.
- 7:34That
- 7:35where
- 7:35you.
- 7:35That's
- 7:35where
- 7:35you
- 7:36could
- 7:36be
- 7:36on
- 7:36fourth
- 7:36down
- 7:37when
- 7:37you're
- 7:37trying
- 7:37to
- 7:37kick
- 7:37a
- 7:37field
- 7:38goal.
- 7:39So
- 7:39part
- 7:39of
- 7:40the
- 7:40rationale
- 7:40for
- 7:40moving
- 7:40it
- 7:41to
- 7:41the
- 7:41end
- 7:41line
- 7:41was
- 7:41to
- 7:42give
- 7:42people
- 7:42better
- 7:42angles
- 7:44to.
- 7:44To
- 7:44kick.
- 7:45Now
- 7:46it
- 7:46would
- 7:46be
- 7:4610
- 7:47yards
- 7:47further.
- 7:48So
- 7:49presumably
- 7:49you,
- 7:51you
- 7:51know,
- 7:51you
- 7:51had,
- 7:51you
- 7:52couldn't.
- 7:53You'd
- 7:54have
- 7:54to
- 7:54be
- 7:54closer
- 7:54to,
- 7:54you
- 7:55know,
- 7:55for
- 7:55the
- 7:55same
- 7:55kind
- 7:56of
- 7:56distance.
- 7:58So
- 7:58anyways,
- 7:59and
- 7:59then
- 7:59like,
- 8:00the
- 8:00NFL
- 8:00basically
- 8:01did
- 8:01the
- 8:01same
- 8:01thing.
- 8:01They
- 8:02use
- 8:02college
- 8:03rules.
- 8:03But
- 8:04then
- 8:04like
- 8:04in
- 8:041932,
- 8:0531
- 8:06or
- 8:0632,
- 8:07they.
- 8:09They
- 8:09had
- 8:09like
- 8:1020
- 8:10of
- 8:11their
- 8:11games
- 8:11ended
- 8:11in
- 8:11ties.
- 8:13So
- 8:13they
- 8:14said,
- 8:14okay,
- 8:14we
- 8:14got
- 8:14to
- 8:15stop
- 8:15all
- 8:15these
- 8:15ties.
- 8:16So
- 8:17they
- 8:17moved
- 8:17the
- 8:17goal
- 8:18post
- 8:18to
- 8:19the
- 8:19goal
- 8:19line
- 8:19to
- 8:20try
- 8:20to,
- 8:21you
- 8:21know,
- 8:21encourage
- 8:21scoring.
- 8:22And
- 8:23I'm
- 8:24not
- 8:24sure
- 8:24it
- 8:24did
- 8:24a
- 8:24whole
- 8:25lot,
- 8:25but,
- 8:25you
- 8:25know,
- 8:26because
- 8:26both
- 8:26teams
- 8:27still
- 8:27had
- 8:27more
- 8:28or
- 8:28less
- 8:28equal
- 8:28chances.
- 8:30Well,
- 8:30they
- 8:30had
- 8:31a
- 8:31championship
- 8:32game,
- 8:32was
- 8:32a
- 8:32Sammy
- 8:32Boss.
- 8:33They
- 8:33scored
- 8:33a
- 8:34safety
- 8:34because
- 8:34they
- 8:34threw
- 8:34a
- 8:34pass
- 8:35and
- 8:35it
- 8:35hit
- 8:35the.
- 8:36The
- 8:36goal
- 8:36post
- 8:36and
- 8:37they
- 8:37counted
- 8:38as
- 8:38a
- 8:38safety
- 8:38and
- 8:39Washington
- 8:40lost
- 8:40by
- 8:40two
- 8:40or
- 8:40something.
- 8:41If
- 8:41I
- 8:42remember
- 8:42correctly,
- 8:43the
- 8:43game
- 8:44with
- 8:44that
- 8:44safety
- 8:45by
- 8:45his
- 8:45pass.
- 8:46Yeah,
- 8:47there
- 8:47were.
- 8:48It
- 8:48did
- 8:49increase
- 8:49scoring
- 8:49that
- 8:49way
- 8:50too,
- 8:50I
- 8:50guess.
- 8:50Yeah,
- 8:51I
- 8:51guess
- 8:51so.
- 8:52I
- 8:52mean,
- 8:52there
- 8:52were
- 8:53some
- 8:53strange
- 8:53rules
- 8:53about,
- 8:54you
- 8:54know,
- 8:55can
- 8:56you.
- 8:56Because
- 8:56I
- 8:56did
- 8:56a
- 8:57story
- 8:57on
- 8:57Doinks,
- 8:58you
- 8:58know,
- 8:59fairly
- 8:59Recently.
- 9:00And
- 9:00so
- 9:01some
- 9:01of
- 9:01them,
- 9:02you
- 9:02know,
- 9:02sometimes
- 9:03the,
- 9:03the
- 9:03doink
- 9:04was
- 9:04automatically,
- 9:06you
- 9:06know,
- 9:06the
- 9:06play
- 9:07ended.
- 9:07Other
- 9:08times
- 9:08it
- 9:08was
- 9:08still
- 9:09live
- 9:09ball.
- 9:09So,
- 9:10you
- 9:10know,
- 9:10who
- 9:10knows?
- 9:13But
- 9:13then,
- 9:13so
- 9:14then
- 9:14the
- 9:14NFL,
- 9:16they
- 9:16went
- 9:17to
- 9:17the,
- 9:18they
- 9:18moved
- 9:18it
- 9:18to
- 9:19the
- 9:19end
- 9:19line
- 9:19in
- 9:1974.
- 9:21And
- 9:21that's
- 9:21largely
- 9:22because,
- 9:23you
- 9:23know,
- 9:23in
- 9:23the
- 9:2360s,
- 9:24it's
- 9:24really
- 9:24when
- 9:25soccer
- 9:25style
- 9:26kicking
- 9:26took
- 9:27over.
- 9:27I
- 9:27mean,
- 9:27they'd
- 9:27had
- 9:28soccer
- 9:28style
- 9:28before
- 9:28that,
- 9:29but
- 9:29that's
- 9:29when
- 9:29it
- 9:29really
- 9:29became,
- 9:31you
- 9:31know,
- 9:31popular.
- 9:31And
- 9:31they
- 9:32were
- 9:32just
- 9:32booting
- 9:32the
- 9:32ball
- 9:32from
- 9:33so
- 9:33far
- 9:33out
- 9:33that
- 9:34they
- 9:34said,
- 9:34okay,
- 9:34we
- 9:34got
- 9:35to
- 9:35move
- 9:35this
- 9:35thing,
- 9:36we
- 9:36got
- 9:36to
- 9:36move
- 9:36these
- 9:36things
- 9:37back
- 9:37and
- 9:37make
- 9:37it
- 9:37harder
- 9:38again.
- 9:40But
- 9:40then
- 9:40the
- 9:41other
- 9:41piece
- 9:41of
- 9:41that
- 9:42is
- 9:42like
- 9:42in
- 9:4366,
- 9:44there's
- 9:45a
- 9:45guy
- 9:45named
- 9:45Jim
- 9:46Trimble,
- 9:46who
- 9:47he
- 9:47had
- 9:48been,
- 9:48I
- 9:48think
- 9:48the
- 9:49Eagles
- 9:49head
- 9:49coach.
- 9:50Pretty
- 9:50sure
- 9:51he's
- 9:51Eagles
- 9:51head
- 9:51coach,
- 9:52could
- 9:52be
- 9:53before
- 9:53that,
- 9:54but
- 9:55he
- 9:56was
- 9:56the
- 9:56Montreal
- 9:57Alouettes
- 9:57coach.
- 9:58And
- 9:58then
- 9:58he
- 9:59got
- 9:59fired.
- 9:59And
- 9:59so
- 9:59he's
- 10:00chatting
- 10:00with
- 10:01a
- 10:01buddy
- 10:01at
- 10:02breakfast
- 10:02one
- 10:02time
- 10:03talking
- 10:03about
- 10:04a
- 10:04game
- 10:04where
- 10:05like
- 10:05the
- 10:05defense
- 10:06had.
- 10:07On
- 10:07the
- 10:07Canadian
- 10:08field,
- 10:08you
- 10:08know,
- 10:08they
- 10:08had.
- 10:09The
- 10:10defender
- 10:10had
- 10:10braced
- 10:11himself
- 10:11against
- 10:11the
- 10:11goalpost,
- 10:13and
- 10:13supposedly
- 10:14one
- 10:14of
- 10:14them
- 10:14was
- 10:15toying
- 10:15around
- 10:15with
- 10:15their
- 10:16fork
- 10:16and
- 10:17they
- 10:17looked
- 10:17at
- 10:17it
- 10:17and
- 10:17kind
- 10:17of
- 10:17said,
- 10:18you
- 10:18know,
- 10:18we
- 10:18could,
- 10:19you
- 10:19could
- 10:19redesign
- 10:20the
- 10:20goal
- 10:20post
- 10:21to
- 10:21have
- 10:21a
- 10:22single
- 10:22post
- 10:22and
- 10:22then
- 10:23kind
- 10:23of
- 10:24gooseneck
- 10:24over,
- 10:25you
- 10:25know.
- 10:26So
- 10:26they
- 10:26came
- 10:26up
- 10:26with
- 10:27essentially
- 10:27the
- 10:27same
- 10:27design
- 10:28as
- 10:28the
- 10:29safety
- 10:29goalpost
- 10:29from
- 10:3019,
- 10:301900,
- 10:32but
- 10:32it
- 10:32was
- 10:32all
- 10:33new
- 10:33and
- 10:33it
- 10:34was
- 10:34aluminum,
- 10:35you
- 10:35know.
- 10:36And
- 10:36so
- 10:37they
- 10:37were
- 10:38able
- 10:38to
- 10:38convince
- 10:39the
- 10:39NFL
- 10:40and
- 10:40to
- 10:40adopt
- 10:41their
- 10:41goal
- 10:41post
- 10:42in
- 10:421967.
- 10:43So.
- 10:45And
- 10:45then
- 10:45they
- 10:45had
- 10:45increased
- 10:46to
- 10:46like
- 10:4620ft
- 10:46high.
- 10:47Now
- 10:47I
- 10:47think
- 10:47they're
- 10:4730ft
- 10:48high
- 10:48on
- 10:48the
- 10:48uprights.
- 10:50But
- 10:51NCAA,
- 10:52you
- 10:52can
- 10:52use
- 10:52either,
- 10:52you
- 10:53know,
- 10:53the
- 10:53H
- 10:53style
- 10:54or
- 10:54the,
- 10:55you
- 10:55know,
- 10:56slingshot
- 10:56gooseneck,
- 10:57you
- 10:57know,
- 10:58style
- 10:58of.
- 11:00Or
- 11:00Telegol,
- 11:01which
- 11:01is
- 11:01what.
- 11:01Which
- 11:01was
- 11:02their
- 11:02brand
- 11:02name.
- 11:03So
- 11:04that's
- 11:05kind
- 11:05of
- 11:05the,
- 11:07that's
- 11:07the
- 11:07story
- 11:07of
- 11:07GOPOs.
- 11:08And
- 11:08I
- 11:09didn't
- 11:09get
- 11:09into
- 11:09the
- 11:09width
- 11:09of
- 11:10them
- 11:10that
- 11:10changed
- 11:10from
- 11:11time
- 11:11to
- 11:11time.
- 11:11But
- 11:12yeah,
- 11:13it's,
- 11:14it's
- 11:14interesting,
- 11:14you
- 11:15know,
- 11:15like
- 11:15at
- 11:15the
- 11:15high
- 11:15school
- 11:16level
- 11:16and
- 11:17below.
- 11:18I
- 11:18don't,
- 11:18I
- 11:18don't.
- 11:19I
- 11:19think
- 11:20schools
- 11:20can
- 11:20still
- 11:21make
- 11:21them.
- 11:21I,
- 11:21I
- 11:21know
- 11:21like
- 11:22some
- 11:22of
- 11:22them
- 11:22I've
- 11:23been
- 11:23at
- 11:23schools
- 11:23like,
- 11:23where
- 11:23you
- 11:24can
- 11:24tell
- 11:24like
- 11:24their
- 11:24shop
- 11:25made
- 11:25them
- 11:25or,
- 11:25you
- 11:25know,
- 11:26shop
- 11:26class
- 11:27made
- 11:27them,
- 11:27you
- 11:27get
- 11:27these
- 11:28crazy
- 11:28looking
- 11:28and
- 11:29engineered
- 11:29designs
- 11:30and
- 11:30everything.
- 11:30And
- 11:31somewhere
- 11:31I
- 11:31have
- 11:31a
- 11:32collection
- 11:32of
- 11:32them.
- 11:32You
- 11:32know,
- 11:33I
- 11:33was
- 11:33visiting
- 11:33my
- 11:33mother
- 11:34when
- 11:34she
- 11:34lived
- 11:34down
- 11:34in
- 11:35Dallas,
- 11:35Fort
- 11:35Worth
- 11:36area,
- 11:36and
- 11:36I
- 11:36was
- 11:36Driving
- 11:37by
- 11:37a
- 11:37middle
- 11:37school
- 11:37and
- 11:38I
- 11:38saw
- 11:38this
- 11:38goal
- 11:38post.
- 11:38I'm
- 11:39like
- 11:39going,
- 11:39oh
- 11:39my
- 11:39God,
- 11:39I
- 11:39never
- 11:40saw
- 11:40anything
- 11:40like
- 11:40that.
- 11:40I
- 11:41got,
- 11:41I
- 11:41was
- 11:41taking
- 11:41pictures
- 11:42so
- 11:42I
- 11:42had
- 11:42like
- 11:42a
- 11:42collection
- 11:42of
- 11:42these
- 11:43things.
- 11:43I
- 11:43got
- 11:43a
- 11:43ton
- 11:43of
- 11:44dig
- 11:44that
- 11:44up
- 11:44sometime.
- 11:44And
- 11:45there's
- 11:46really
- 11:46some
- 11:46really
- 11:47crazy
- 11:47looking
- 11:47ones
- 11:48that,
- 11:48that
- 11:49I've,
- 11:49I
- 11:49worked
- 11:50officiated
- 11:50games
- 11:50on
- 11:51and
- 11:51ones
- 11:51I
- 11:52just
- 11:52had
- 11:52observed.
- 11:53But
- 11:53yeah,
- 11:54some
- 11:54interesting
- 11:55ideas
- 11:55come
- 11:55out
- 11:55of
- 11:56people's
- 11:56minds
- 11:56on
- 11:56the
- 11:57goal
- 11:57post.
- 11:57Well,
- 11:58the
- 11:58old
- 11:58shop
- 11:58class
- 11:59thing
- 11:59is
- 11:59interesting
- 12:00too
- 12:00because
- 12:02you
- 12:02know,
- 12:02when
- 12:04I
- 12:05can't
- 12:05remember
- 12:05if
- 12:05I
- 12:05published
- 12:06a
- 12:06tidbit
- 12:06about.
- 12:07Or
- 12:07maybe
- 12:07it's
- 12:08still
- 12:08in
- 12:08the
- 12:08works,
- 12:08I
- 12:08don't
- 12:09know,
- 12:09but
- 12:10about
- 12:10like
- 12:10the,
- 12:12the
- 12:12yardage
- 12:12markers
- 12:13on
- 12:13fields.
- 12:15I
- 12:15can't
- 12:15remember
- 12:15if
- 12:16I
- 12:16published
- 12:16that
- 12:16or
- 12:16not.
- 12:16Anyways,
- 12:17you
- 12:17know
- 12:18the,
- 12:18the
- 12:18little
- 12:20conical.
- 12:21There's,
- 12:22there's
- 12:22been
- 12:22different
- 12:23designs
- 12:23but
- 12:23all
- 12:23the
- 12:23things
- 12:24that.
- 12:24Yeah,
- 12:25actually
- 12:25I
- 12:25did,
- 12:25I
- 12:25published
- 12:26it
- 12:26last
- 12:26week.
- 12:27Anyways.
- 12:28So
- 12:28like
- 12:28in
- 12:28high
- 12:29schools
- 12:29a
- 12:29lot
- 12:29of
- 12:29the
- 12:30signage
- 12:30and
- 12:30all
- 12:31that
- 12:31kind
- 12:31of
- 12:31stuff
- 12:31were.
- 12:32Shop
- 12:32classes
- 12:32made
- 12:33that
- 12:33stuff,
- 12:34right.
- 12:34And
- 12:35there
- 12:35were
- 12:36things
- 12:36where
- 12:36like
- 12:37shop
- 12:37kind
- 12:37of
- 12:37home
- 12:38ec
- 12:38and
- 12:38shop
- 12:39classes
- 12:39would
- 12:39make
- 12:40tackling
- 12:41dummies,
- 12:42you
- 12:42know,
- 12:42I
- 12:42mean,
- 12:43they
- 12:43were
- 12:43just
- 12:43trying
- 12:43to
- 12:43save
- 12:44a
- 12:44buck,
- 12:44right?
- 12:44And
- 12:44so
- 12:45you
- 12:45have
- 12:45the,
- 12:45have
- 12:45the
- 12:46girls
- 12:46sew
- 12:46these,
- 12:47these
- 12:47canvas
- 12:48tackling
- 12:49dummies
- 12:49and
- 12:49then
- 12:49the
- 12:50boys
- 12:50would
- 12:50get
- 12:50sawdust
- 12:51and
- 12:52you
- 12:52know,
- 12:53fill
- 12:53them
- 12:53up
- 12:53and
- 12:54you
- 12:54know,
- 12:54that's
- 12:54what
- 12:54you
- 12:54use
- 12:54for
- 12:55a
- 12:55tackling
- 12:55dummy.
- 12:56So
- 12:57anyway,
- 12:57shop
- 12:57classes
- 12:58have
- 12:58played
- 12:58a
- 12:58big
- 12:58role
- 12:59in,
- 13:00in
- 13:00high
- 13:00school
- 13:01football,
- 13:01right?
- 13:02Yes,
- 13:02they
- 13:02did.
- 13:03So
- 13:03yeah,
- 13:03everybody
- 13:04at
- 13:04the
- 13:04school
- 13:05can
- 13:05get
- 13:05involved
- 13:05in
- 13:05a
- 13:05football
- 13:06game,
- 13:06that's
- 13:06for
- 13:06sure.
- 13:07Yeah.
- 13:07So
- 13:08it's
- 13:08actually
- 13:08pretty
- 13:09cool.
- 13:09Yeah,
- 13:10it
- 13:10is,
- 13:10it
- 13:10is.
- 13:10And
- 13:11you
- 13:11know,
- 13:11if
- 13:11you
- 13:12go
- 13:12back
- 13:12years
- 13:12later
- 13:12and
- 13:13you
- 13:13were
- 13:13in
- 13:13that
- 13:13shop
- 13:14class
- 13:14and
- 13:14you
- 13:14know,
- 13:14you're,
- 13:15you've
- 13:15been
- 13:15on
- 13:15high
- 13:16school
- 13:16for
- 13:16decades,
- 13:17you
- 13:17can
- 13:17go
- 13:17back
- 13:17and
- 13:17tell
- 13:17your
- 13:18grandkids,
- 13:18hey,
- 13:18I
- 13:19helped
- 13:19make
- 13:19that,
- 13:19you
- 13:19know,
- 13:20back
- 13:20in
- 13:201972.
- 13:22So
- 13:22we
- 13:23welded
- 13:23that.
- 13:25Yeah,
- 13:25some,
- 13:25some
- 13:26good
- 13:26stuff.
- 13:26Yeah,
- 13:27Goal
- 13:27posts
- 13:27are
- 13:27always
- 13:28interesting
- 13:28thing,
- 13:29you
- 13:29know,
- 13:29and
- 13:29it's
- 13:30unique
- 13:30to
- 13:30football
- 13:31and
- 13:31you,
- 13:32there's
- 13:32a
- 13:32lot
- 13:32of
- 13:32different
- 13:33devices
- 13:33and,
- 13:34and
- 13:34people
- 13:34and
- 13:35rules
- 13:36that
- 13:36are
- 13:36unique
- 13:36to
- 13:37football.
- 13:37And
- 13:37you
- 13:38dig
- 13:38into
- 13:38them
- 13:39and
- 13:39tell
- 13:39about
- 13:40the
- 13:40people
- 13:40and
- 13:40the
- 13:41events
- 13:41and
- 13:41the
- 13:41history,
- 13:42an
- 13:43evolution
- 13:43of
- 13:43some
- 13:43of
- 13:44these
- 13:44things,
- 13:44just
- 13:44like
- 13:45you
- 13:45did
- 13:45at
- 13:45the
- 13:45goal
- 13:45post
- 13:46today
- 13:46and
- 13:47your
- 13:47tidbits
- 13:47and
- 13:48maybe
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- 13:48could
- 13:48share
- 13:49with
- 13:49folks
- 13:49where
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- 13:49can
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- 13:50on
- 13:50to
- 13:50some
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- 13:50these
- 13:51tidbits.
- 13:51Yeah,
- 13:52just
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- 13:52to
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- 13:54it's
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- 13:55you
- 13:55know,
- 13:56site
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- 14:09you
- 14:09don't
- 14:10have
- 14:10to
- 14:10search
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- 14:10it,
- 14:10it
- 14:11just
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- 14:13But
- 14:14kind
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- 14:15works
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- 14:15you.
- 14:16That's
- 14:17the
- 14:17way
- 14:17to
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- 14:28check
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- 14:29And
- 14:29check
- 14:30out
- 14:30Tim
- 14:30each
- 14:31Tuesday
- 14:31here
- 14:31as
- 14:31he
- 14:32talks
- 14:32to
- 14:32us
- 14:32about
- 14:33some
- 14:33great
- 14:33antiquity
- 14:34of
- 14:34football.
- 14:34And
- 14:35Tim,
- 14:35we
- 14:35look
- 14:35forward
- 14:35to
- 14:36that
- 14:36again
- 14:36next
- 14:37week.
- 14:37Very
- 14:37good.
- 14:38Look
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- 14:39Terry.
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