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More of 777 The Kabbalah of Aleister Crowley · The Occult Rejects

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Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen. What what's going to happen?
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Speaker 1: I think.
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Speaker 2: What I Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, We are live.
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Speaker 2: How you doing that? How much you've been working on?
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Speaker 1: What is up?
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Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 1: Just recently finished like an hour episode on the history
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Speaker 1: of demons in Christianity. It's a little interesting. And now
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Speaker 1: I'm working Yeah, now I'm working on I think I
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Speaker 1: had mentioned it one other time. The brainwaves, you know, delta, gamma, theta,
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's actually should be really interesting if
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Speaker 1: people are into it. I find it really interesting. And
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Speaker 1: you know, the one thing that I realized just from
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Speaker 1: covering that again, I never realized that those brainwaves all
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Speaker 1: it is is electrical activity and basically that this barrency
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Speaker 1: between positive and negative, you know, all that shit and
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Speaker 1: moving around. So it's just weird how it's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this soul comes down to electricity. It's very very interesting.
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Speaker 2: Zeus Sue's the king of the gods. There you go.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is something that I keep going back
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Speaker 2: to when it comes to Hellenism, when it comes to
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Speaker 2: all of these things that I'm into, it's like they
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Speaker 2: were on some other level to understand that, Hey, you know,
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Speaker 2: brain waves and all the rest of this thought comes
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Speaker 2: from electricity, and they didn't even know how to put
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Speaker 2: it out into words in a way that was, you know, relevant.
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Speaker 2: But today it's relevant. Like we could see all the
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Speaker 2: crossovers today and it's like, wow, what were they on?
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Speaker 1: You know, that's what I think. You know, you're totally right.
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Speaker 1: I've thought that a lot with them and with Zeus
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Speaker 1: and lightning with electricity. I was like, it's I think
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Speaker 1: it's the same shit they're trying to point.
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Speaker 2: In Egyptians too. They've got all of this art and
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Speaker 2: architecture that goes back to these different brain functions and
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Speaker 2: it's like, dude, they were on it was just next
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Speaker 2: level stuff. But I think we've kind of lost that,
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Speaker 2: and now we're kind of verging on this precipice where
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Speaker 2: we can either go back into the dark ages or
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Speaker 2: we can have a new renaissance and actually go into
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Speaker 2: the stars. And I think, you know, what we're seeing
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Speaker 2: right now is sort of either the birth pangs or
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Speaker 2: the abortion waiting to happen. So you know, we got
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Speaker 2: to make that choice. But yeah, we are back on
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Speaker 2: page if you guys are on the on the PDF,
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Speaker 2: we are on let me see where we are on
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Speaker 2: page one O three right, So this one is the
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Speaker 2: forty Buddhist meditations. This is gonna be fun. So let's
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Speaker 2: see here do it start off?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think to tell you the truth, I think
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Speaker 1: I was supposed to. Yeah. For zero, which yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that would be nothing neither P nor P space or
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Speaker 1: consciousness that would be under the forty Buddhist meditations. Then
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Speaker 1: small selection of Hindu deities would be on a u M.
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Speaker 1: Then for one the forty Buddhist Meditations, you would have indifference.
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Speaker 1: This just looks like an s I don't know what
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Speaker 1: that's for. And then small selection of Hindu deities power, power,
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Speaker 1: Brahm or any other whom one wishes to please. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Then for number two you have joy, and then the
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Speaker 1: small selection of Hindu deities Shiva, Vishnu as Buddha, avatars,
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Speaker 1: Akasa as matter in the lingam. Then for three there
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Speaker 1: would be a again that would be like Saturn would
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Speaker 1: be not on the trail line compassion. Then the small
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Speaker 1: selection of aditis is a Bahavni, all forms of sakti,
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Speaker 1: prana as force, and Yoni, which that seems to make sense.
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Speaker 1: The yoni with the third sphere that would be feminine
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, friendliness for the fourth one, that are
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Speaker 1: the forty Buddhist meditations and the Hindu deities would be
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Speaker 1: uh where did they just get with the Yeah, friendliness,
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Speaker 1: sorry for the for his Buddhist deities. And then that
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Speaker 1: would be Indra and Brahma for the deities. Yes for
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Speaker 1: number four, Number five tould go with Mars and Goburu.
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Speaker 1: That would be death fitting the deities Vishnu and Varuna Avatar.
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Speaker 1: Then for six, which would be God tiffaret which you
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Speaker 1: know they put Jesus sometimes you'd have Buddha there makes
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Speaker 1: sense for the Buddhist meditations and then the small selection
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Speaker 1: of Hindu deities Vishnu, Hari, Krishna Rama and for seven
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Speaker 1: the meditation Buddhist meditation the God and nothing there for
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Speaker 1: Hindu deities. I'm surprised they couldn't get it.
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Speaker 2: That is interesting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, there isn't like one check that you could
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Speaker 1: have used. Uh.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know again, this could be about the code,
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Speaker 2: because he used code several Yeah.
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Speaker 1: You know that is true. I have you know, I
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Speaker 1: was thinking about that. I was like, I wonder some
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Speaker 1: of these associations literally just because the Jamatra. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like the gods. Yeah, there was nothing
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Speaker 1: there for number seven. Then number eight analysis into four
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Speaker 1: elements and that would be Hanuman. Then number nine you
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Speaker 1: would have Dama as the Buddhist meditation, and then the
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Speaker 1: Hinduditi's Ganesha, Vishnu and krinn Avatar something closer that I
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Speaker 1: can't tell if that's like a problem with the page
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Speaker 1: in that. Then number ten you'd have the Sangha with
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Speaker 1: the body the forty meditations, and you would have Lakshmi
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Speaker 1: and Kundalini on there for number ten. Then for eleven
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Speaker 1: we have Wind for the Buddhist meditation, and then the
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Speaker 1: my roots or merits of value for eleven.
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Speaker 2: Oh, so this is interesting. So there's the elemental meditation
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Speaker 2: that he continually refers back to. I haven't done it,
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Speaker 2: but I know one of my friends who has says
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Speaker 2: it's a powerful form of it. So they've got the
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Speaker 2: Hindu elemental meditation. I forgot the name of it. He
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Speaker 2: constantly refers back to it.
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Speaker 1: I have to check that out. Number twelve you get yellow,
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Speaker 1: and that would be Hanuman and Vishnu as parasa rama.
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Speaker 1: Then thirteen for the meditation you get lonesomeness of food,
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Speaker 1: loathsomeness of food, and then thirteen you would get Chandra
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Speaker 1: and then that to me, it looks like a crescent
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Speaker 1: as maybe a moon goddess, moon gottess. Then number fourteen
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Speaker 1: you'd have a dark blue meditation and to go with
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Speaker 1: that with the Hindu deity would be Lalita sexual aspect
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Speaker 1: of Sakti. Then for fifteen you'd have a bloody corpse meditation.
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Speaker 1: That sounds nice. Then that goes with the deity of Shiva.
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Speaker 1: In sixteen you got beaten and scattered corps. It's getting
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Speaker 1: better now, and then that would go with Shiva again
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Speaker 1: as a sacred bull. And then seventeen the number seventeen
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Speaker 1: we'd get white and white meditation and that would be
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Speaker 1: various twin and hybrid deities. Eighteen worm eaten corpse and
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Speaker 1: nothing to go with that. Nineteen gnored by wild beast's corpse,
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Speaker 1: and that would be for the deity would be Vishnu.
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Speaker 1: Then for twenty we have a bloated corpse. And then
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Speaker 1: for the uh for the deities, we have the Gopi
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Speaker 1: girls and the Lord of Yoga gopy girls. Then twenty one.
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Speaker 2: With all these with all these corpses. You don't see
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Speaker 2: what's your name, colleague? You think Kali would be throw right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she really I was even thinking possibly
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Speaker 1: her for seven, but not really. But oh, I just
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Speaker 1: feel like it would have been somebody you could put that. Uh,
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Speaker 1: liberal liberality would be twenty one, and then the gods
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Speaker 1: the deities would be Brahma and Indra, then hacked in
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Speaker 1: pieces course for twenty two, and the deity would be Yama.
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Speaker 1: Then for twenty three we have a water meditation. And
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Speaker 1: then I've always wondered if they meant they made there's
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Speaker 1: a muscle relaction drug out there called soma. I've always
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Speaker 1: wondered if they got it from this soma.
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Speaker 2: Well, the soma's is very interesting because it kind of
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Speaker 2: relates back to the idea of the the what's it called,
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Speaker 2: the the immortality food that the gods eat? What's it called.
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Speaker 2: I can't believe I blamed Hana.
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Speaker 1: No, that's Mana.
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Speaker 2: That's another form of it, right, But you know there's
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Speaker 2: always this food associated with the god.
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Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I can't remember
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Speaker 1: the fucking name.
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Speaker 2: It starts with an a. I just can't remember the rest.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you'll play think of it before the shows over, hopefully.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: Twenty four skeleton corpse and that would be with Kundalini
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Speaker 1: twenty five limited aperture and that would go with Vishnu
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Speaker 1: the horse avatar. Twenty six we got putrid corpse and
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Speaker 1: the deity would be lingham A Yoni. Twenty seven would
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Speaker 1: be blood red and that goes with nothing. Twenty eight
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Speaker 1: purple corpse and that goes with nothing. Then twenty nine
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Speaker 1: would be conduct and that would go with Vishnu Matsa avatar.
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Speaker 1: Then number thirty would be light and deity would be
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Speaker 1: Suria as a solar deity. I'm assuming it looks like
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Speaker 1: the solo schitule. Thirty one fire for the meditation, and
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Speaker 1: the deity would be agne tejus Yama as god of
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Speaker 1: last Judgment. Thirty two you have a quinsense and that
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Speaker 1: would go with yeah, Quah Brahma. That would go with Brahma.
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Speaker 1: Then I don't know what the hell that bis means.
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Speaker 1: I used to do at one point thirty two bis
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Speaker 1: that would be Earth and then Pritheev and then thirty
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Speaker 1: one bis a breathing and a casa. Interesting the breathing.
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Speaker 2: Now we're getting good. We got the precious man.
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Speaker 1: I would have liked this one.
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Speaker 2: No, I got it all right. So I'll start off
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Speaker 2: with zero. Nothing isn't that interesting. You'd think that there
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Speaker 2: would be some sort of elemental nature going along with zero,
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Speaker 2: but actually there's nothing. This is why meditation is important.
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Speaker 2: You're adding the zero to your understanding.
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Speaker 1: Interesting.
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Speaker 2: We got number one diamond, and the plants and imagery
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Speaker 2: would be almond in flower, animals, real and imaginary God.
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Speaker 2: So this actually goes into a lot more alchemical kind
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Speaker 2: of understanding with this chart. And then number two we've
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Speaker 2: got star, ruby, turquoise, amoranth and man. It's number two.
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Speaker 2: Interesting because you know, normally we see man as being
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Speaker 2: you know, either three or one, but now man is
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Speaker 2: two in this room.
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Speaker 1: You know what I did want to mention just real
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Speaker 1: quick because I was looking at it and I was like,
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Speaker 1: all right, it makes sense if you go by again
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Speaker 1: the sphere as you'd have I guess God would be kether,
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Speaker 1: but the first time the male energy shows up would
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Speaker 1: be the second sphere on the right hand side, and
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Speaker 1: then the third sphere goes over to the left pillar
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Speaker 1: and that would be woman. Because I was looking on
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Speaker 1: the side too, and I was like, oh wow, it
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Speaker 1: actually matches up like the second sphere man, you're going
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Speaker 1: by the pillars, So I think that's really how he
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Speaker 1: did it.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, So amoranth is an interesting plant.
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Speaker 2: This You actually can make bread and flower out of amorant.
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Speaker 2: But again it's not used popularly anymore. But this is
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Speaker 2: like one of the main forms of creating bread. So
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Speaker 2: man and bread kind of go together. Number three star
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Speaker 2: sapphire pearl.
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Speaker 1: Is it a stupid question? I want to have a
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Speaker 1: stupid question. I don't know if you would know. Does
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Speaker 1: the amarant have yeast in it?
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Speaker 2: I don't think it does now. It does not have
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Speaker 2: yeast in it, but you can get yeast from me
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Speaker 2: any pine tree. This is how they would collect the
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Speaker 2: yeast in the old days. Is all the white that
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Speaker 2: you see collected on the pine tree sap as it's bleeding,
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Speaker 2: that's actually yeast.
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Speaker 1: Oh shit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important to know, especially if you're making it.
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Speaker 1: Exactly what you're talking about. Especially well that's wild, right.
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Speaker 2: This is why you have a lot of piney alcohols, right,
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Speaker 2: because all they do is just take the pine leaves
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So you've got gin and other
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Speaker 2: alcohols using that yeast off of the pine tree. So
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Speaker 2: number four, this was a star sapphire pearl. Is he
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Speaker 2: talking about actual star ruby and star sapphire, Like there's
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Speaker 2: a certain type of sapphire that has kind of a
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Speaker 2: star pattern to it. I'm not sure if the same
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Speaker 2: thing is true with ruby. He's got ruby listed again,
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Speaker 2: so I think that is the specific type.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think so. Somehow he's trying to refer
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Speaker 1: to his rituals, but I doubt that. Well it says
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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he had them. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: was gonna say, I don't even know if he had
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Speaker 1: those star ruby or the star sapphire rituals when he
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Speaker 1: wrote this book.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but it would be interesting to use star.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you there. I would assume there's something
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Speaker 1: different with them than a regular ruby orsef Yeah, look
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Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, I'll look at that while you read
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Speaker 1: real quick. You got it? Uh.
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Speaker 2: Number four, we've got amethyst and sapphire. This is olive
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Speaker 2: and shamrock. Of course, you've got the four with the
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Speaker 2: shamrock four leaf clover and then unicorn.
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Speaker 1: Right, that is interesting the unicorn. Right, I didn't actually
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Speaker 1: know that was even in here.
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Speaker 2: Well, animals real and imaginary, So this is kind of
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Speaker 2: you know, I would assume that you would use these
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Speaker 2: symbolically on different instruments that you're making as part of
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Speaker 2: your rituals, right, so you could draw these out on
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Speaker 2: different objects.
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Speaker 1: Oh, the star ruby will exhibit a star shaped optical
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Speaker 1: effect called asterism. Wow, that's what I thought it was.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, right, right, Okay, So and then we've
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Speaker 2: got number five, which is ruby, oak, nucks, vomica, and nettle.
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Speaker 1: Actually metal's a good one.
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Speaker 2: And that's the basilisk again, the mythical lizard that's associated
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Speaker 2: with turning people to stone. Interesting topaz, yellow diamond, Acacia ooh,
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Speaker 2: there's not Acasia again by Laurel Vine. Laurel is very
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Speaker 2: important too. And this is the phoenix, the lion, and
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Speaker 2: the child. You've got a lot in there. So on
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Speaker 2: the last page we're talking about God being on that
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Speaker 2: number six line, right, No, that was number seven. But
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Speaker 2: this one is interesting because you've got Acacia again, the
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Speaker 2: source of a lot of d MT. Huh yeah, the
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Speaker 2: acacia bush, that's the burning bush they talk about in
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Speaker 2: the Bible too.
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Speaker 1: Had them seeing I'm sure, Oh you you know what say,
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Speaker 1: you would probably know this. Was there any in Greek
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Speaker 1: or Roman times do they wear laurel like around the
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Speaker 1: head or something they did?
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Speaker 2: The laurel wreath was sacred to Apollo, and the reason
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Speaker 2: that is is because he fell in love with a
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Speaker 2: nymph and that nymph was trying to get away from
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Speaker 2: him and decided that it would be better to turn
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Speaker 2: herself into a laurel tree. And so when you see
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Speaker 2: the laurel being associated with the wreath on the head,
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Speaker 2: that's because it's the symbol of Apollo, and Apollo is
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Speaker 2: constantly seeking. He's the far seeing one, and so that
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Speaker 2: laurel is the exemplar of constantly being in motion, constantly
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Speaker 2: trying to achieve, constantly, you know, trying to reach goals.
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Speaker 2: Laurel very important.
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Speaker 1: When I covered laurel on the it's so interesting, and
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Speaker 1: you mentioned something that went along with it. Yeah, they
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Speaker 1: would wear it around their head, and I was reading
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Speaker 1: that they would use it in school a lot because
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Speaker 1: they thought it meant like good luck or it helped
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Speaker 1: them better in school. And now there's actually studies that
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Speaker 1: laurel will actually help you concentrate better. So they're like, yo,
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Speaker 1: did they know that that shit literally did scientifically help somehow?
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Speaker 1: It could have just been the fact that they realized
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Speaker 1: that maybe it was just coincidence and they assumed they
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Speaker 1: was doing something. But did they know that?
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Speaker 2: Well, back to the d MT thing. So the reason
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Speaker 2: why they have the d MT produced in the Amazon
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Speaker 2: is because they said that the plants themselves told them
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Speaker 2: how to mix it and how to create this thing.
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Speaker 2: So thinking that the Greeks, who would have kind of
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Speaker 2: a shamanistic practice going on there wouldn't be able to
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Speaker 2: talk to the plants. That kind of seems outside of
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Speaker 2: the ordinary. So I think there was a reason why
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Speaker 2: they chose the laurel and why it was so effective
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Speaker 2: in these different pursuits.
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Speaker 1: No, I think they know, yeah for sure.
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Speaker 2: Right, So emerald rose Lynx is number seven. The emerald
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Speaker 2: you usually associate with sort of the heart chakra, right,
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Speaker 2: so the green and kind of the gold. It's interesting
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Speaker 2: that they were at number seven.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, those were I used to use those a lot. Why.
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Speaker 1: I used to work with netsuck a lot, and that
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Speaker 1: would be the seventh sphere. I used to use like
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Speaker 1: rose stuff, rose buds, not the petals. There's there's a
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Speaker 1: rose something hips easier to fucking believe it or not,
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Speaker 1: getting like real rose petals and ship it gets expensive
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Speaker 1: if you're trying to use that. So I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: you know, get like cheaper rose stuff. Yeah, but that
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Speaker 1: in the emerald the Yeah, I wonder if the rose
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Speaker 1: is a little bit uh on the tree of life. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you can't really get into it too much. It's just
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Speaker 1: understood that five and seven have a relationship, especially if
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Speaker 1: you're making a like sigils or talisman. You you're green
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Speaker 1: again with the emerald would be for seven. But then
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to use up the what do they
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Speaker 1: call it? Oh god, this is certain. It's like a
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Speaker 1: popping color. The then there's another color that you're supposed
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Speaker 1: to use, and it would be suggested for it to
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Speaker 1: be red, which then would be rose. So I'm wondering
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Speaker 1: if that you know that even all works in with
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Speaker 1: the relationship with burg which is a red sphere.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think Golden Dawn used a lot of those
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Speaker 2: popping colors when it comes to it.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the name for it. Oh, flashing colors. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they call it a flesh colors. Yeah, And I mean
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Speaker 1: the crazy thing is is that, Uh that dad? Even
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Speaker 1: when I could cover covered the color uh ship on
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Speaker 1: one of the shows that I did, that stuff does
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Speaker 1: actually like affect you when you look at it. You know,
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Speaker 1: the certain colors already like yellow and red are going
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Speaker 1: to make you hungry. Perfect that McDonald's happens to use
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Speaker 1: that on their ship, you know what I'm saying. So
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Speaker 1: like you start and then you start using these little
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Speaker 1: flesh and colors and they could be you know, adding.
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Speaker 2: More to it well with the entire what are they
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Speaker 2: called the the Angel deck? What's that called the.
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Speaker 1: Oracle deck?
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Speaker 2: The Nakian magic? Right, you're supposed to use according to
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Speaker 2: the Golden Dawn, you're supposed to use those flashing colors
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Speaker 2: for all of the elements, uh sighted in the creation
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Speaker 2: of these different angel sigils. So as you're writing the
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Speaker 2: sigils in the middle part, all four quadrants around the
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Speaker 2: outside we're supposed to be in, flashing colors produce that
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Speaker 2: effect as you're looking at them.
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Speaker 1: Ye see. They again all makes me wonder too, is
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Speaker 1: this all like do they understood the science behind this shit?
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Speaker 1: And it's like you're literally just trying to affect yourself
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Speaker 1: a program yourself is something put yourself into a certain
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Speaker 1: state with the different colors and the different sounds you're
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Speaker 1: making out of yourself.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, well, I think that's that's the idea
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Speaker 2: is you're you're trying to open a gateway, and your
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Speaker 2: body is the gateway. Your persumptions is that gateway. So
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Speaker 2: you've got to have these different flash and colors and
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Speaker 2: different ideas so that you can get yourself into a
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Speaker 2: state of mind that can pass through that gateway.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. That's exactly what I think perfectly said.
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Speaker 2: So right, let's see Opal, especially fire Opal Fire, Opal
20:45
Speaker 2: is gorgeous. You got to go down to Australia for that.
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Speaker 2: That is Molly a lonium.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, Yeah right, yeah, Luini.
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Speaker 2: Anna and Luini. I've never heard of those. And then
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Speaker 2: this is hermaphrodite and shackle.
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Speaker 1: It makes sense. Yeah eight hoh. Do you get that
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Speaker 1: maphrodite as a.
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Speaker 2: Symbol, absolutely? Eight eight eight. That's the number of Christ
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Speaker 2: and hermaphroditic or the universal hermaphrodite is associated with that too.
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Speaker 2: Then number nine Quartz, Banyon Man Drake and Dami Yana
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Speaker 2: oh Damiana is like a love herb Man drake.
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Speaker 1: It looks like a little person actually, right.
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Speaker 2: Right, And then this is elephant as the symbol or
21:38
Speaker 2: the animal. Interesting, rock Crystal, Willow, Lily ivy and the
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Speaker 2: sphinx for number ten, which that's sphinx. That's like the completion, right,
21:51
Speaker 2: so the completion is this amalgam animal. Interesting. We had
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Speaker 2: that show about the second sphinx.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was fun actually. I like that guy,
22:04
Speaker 1: the dunking Dad.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, Topaz and Challice Denny, Chalie Denny Aspen Eagle or
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Speaker 2: man cherub of air that's number eleven again back to
22:20
Speaker 2: that magical concept. The cherub of air would be sort
22:24
Speaker 2: of like the magician or maybe the Magician's diamon. And
22:30
Speaker 2: then we've got opal agate, verveine, ervane, mercury, verbins great, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Margarine margaline and palm swallow, ibis ape Oh that sounds
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Speaker 2: like thoth right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, the ibis for sure and the ape
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Speaker 1: ape thought, Yeah, that is eight and four together. That's
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Speaker 1: really interesting. I get twelve.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that's funny too, because there were
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Speaker 2: a lot of jokes that they would put on people's
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Speaker 2: tombs in Egypt, and they would often use the ape
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Speaker 2: as sort of a butt of the joke because it
23:12
Speaker 2: was sort of associated with thought and so they were
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Speaker 2: trying to invoke immortality in writing and stuff.
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Speaker 1: Well I like that.
23:23
Speaker 2: Well what they said was sometimes they would put these
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Speaker 2: these different I guess, word puzzles on their tombs so
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Speaker 2: that people would stand there longer to observe their tomb, right,
23:36
Speaker 2: because you're trying to figure out what they what they
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Speaker 2: mean by these different words.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking game on the back.
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Speaker 2: There you go. That's funny. Yeah, all right, moonstone, pearl, crystal, almond,
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Speaker 2: mugwart ooh, mugwort, I love mugwart teeth as the moon.
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Speaker 2: That's the symbol in the Hindu elementals for water, I believe.
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Speaker 2: And then moonwart. I've never tried that one. That's interesting
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Speaker 2: and veranoculous, I guess. And that's the dog thirteen. This
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Speaker 2: seems really Egyptian because they're going for the dog right there,
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Speaker 2: and that's kind of closely associated. Maybe you should put
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Speaker 2: that dog as a head for a man.
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Speaker 1: Say the mug wart and the moonwart. You know, it's
24:30
Speaker 1: interesting that its saying there as the moon. Those would
24:32
Speaker 1: be two things that I used for the moon if
24:35
Speaker 1: I ever worked at the moon so I do see that.
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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I mean, obviously Moonwart he says it, but
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Speaker 1: mug war too.
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Speaker 2: What's Moonwart like is that? Is can you consume that?
24:47
Speaker 1: Or is that a I can't remember if it's Moonwar
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Speaker 1: to mug wart, I think. I think if you make
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Speaker 1: both of them together, they say that if you were
24:56
Speaker 1: to smoke a little bit of it could be sedative.
24:59
Speaker 1: I didn't get any thing out of it interesting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you make mug wart tea, it's just yeah,
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Speaker 2: I tried that.
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Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, I didn't like that. It
25:08
Speaker 1: was too bitter for me. Whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, tastes like you're drinking dust. But the funny thing
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Speaker 2: about that is that's what they use. The mug wart
25:17
Speaker 2: is what they use in that absent, and so they're
25:21
Speaker 2: you know, you've tried the mug wart. It doesn't really
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Speaker 2: do much, but it's just like lightly sedative, and they're
25:26
Speaker 2: saying that that's what causes you to go crazy when
25:28
Speaker 2: you're drinking absent. So it's like that's not true at all,
25:32
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, it's just one of these things that
25:34
Speaker 2: they used to sell. It is like, actually, this mug
25:36
Speaker 2: wart is gently psychoactive. So it's gonna make you go nuts.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It's just booze.
25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, it's like every other person, like fucking
25:45
Speaker 1: any other witch or magician. That's like burning that should
25:47
Speaker 1: have making tea out of it. Be retarded. Yeah, come on.
25:55
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, Ruby tiger lily, jurine. Oh no, I'm I
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Speaker 2: skipped on emerald and turquoise. We're back to green again, myrtle,
26:04
Speaker 2: rose and clover, and that is a sparrow, dove or
26:08
Speaker 2: swan with fourteen.
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Speaker 1: That's interesting. How you get the green and red combination
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Speaker 1: again with the rose in the emerald.
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Speaker 2: Right back up to number seven, so that's number fourteen.
26:23
Speaker 2: That is a do there you go, Ruby, tiger, lily, geranium,
26:28
Speaker 2: ram an owl.
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Speaker 1: Interesting the triple five and the ram would go with Mars,
26:36
Speaker 1: which would be a good break.
26:37
Speaker 2: Well, the owl and the ram are kind of opposed
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Speaker 2: to each other. You've got Athena or Minerva being opposed
26:45
Speaker 2: to ares Mars, right, they're sort of in competition with
26:49
Speaker 2: each other.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, or what would even be like? Are the the
26:53
Speaker 1: owls the air and the ram is of the earth.
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Speaker 2: Very good point, Yeah, Topaz mallow mallow is interesting. You
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Speaker 2: can make mallow marshmallow just by using the herb and
27:07
Speaker 2: getting that all mixed in there. That's cool, cool stuff.
27:12
Speaker 2: And then bull or cherub of earth. Interesting, let's see
27:19
Speaker 2: alexandriight turmaline Iceland or is that yeah, I guess it's
27:25
Speaker 2: Iceland spar. I've never heard of Iceland spar hybrids and
27:29
Speaker 2: orchids magpie hybrid. Interesting turmaline. I know that if you
27:36
Speaker 2: heat turmaline it actually produces a electric charge. So that's
27:45
Speaker 2: number six seventeen eighteen. We are on amber lotus, crab,
27:51
Speaker 2: turtle and sphinx again interesting, cat's eye, sunflower lion or
28:00
Speaker 2: cherub of fire that's number nineteen and parado, snowdrop, lily, narcissus,
28:11
Speaker 2: virgin anchor write any solitary person or animal. Number twenty amethyst, lapis, lazuli,
28:22
Speaker 2: his hop oak, poplar fig and this one's the eagle.
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Speaker 1: I like highsop. That shit's pretty good. I used to
28:32
Speaker 1: use that a lot sometimes. Yeah, you believe it or
28:35
Speaker 1: that I think. I think Crowley even used to quote something.
28:42
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's specifically I had hys up
28:44
Speaker 1: in there, but there's a there's a quote in the
28:46
Speaker 1: Bible where hyesop is being used to cleanse and you
28:48
Speaker 1: tok about being as white as the snow and shit,
28:50
Speaker 1: and Crawley took part of that line directly and put
28:54
Speaker 1: it into his own shit.
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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. I think what he would do too
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Speaker 2: with Crowley is he would take certain verses by their
29:04
Speaker 2: number and use those in his spells, which I think
29:06
Speaker 2: that's pretty popular too. I mean, if you look at
29:08
Speaker 2: a lot of Christian magicians, they're just going through taking
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Speaker 2: these numbers and using the verses as part of their
29:14
Speaker 2: spell work. Emerald, alo elephant number twenty two. Let's see,
29:25
Speaker 2: that's interesting that they went green and green with emerald
29:28
Speaker 2: and aloe and then back to the elephant again. But
29:31
Speaker 2: that would be like the closing of all of the
29:34
Speaker 2: you know, pathways, interesting barrel or aquamarine lotus, all water plants, eagle, snake, scorpion,
29:46
Speaker 2: cherub of water for twenty three, let's see snakestone, cactus, scorpion, beetle, lobster, crayfish,
29:57
Speaker 2: and wolf. You got all these front sort of crustaceans,
30:02
Speaker 2: and then you go straight for the wolf. That's an
30:04
Speaker 2: interesting combination. But if you look at the oh, what's
30:08
Speaker 2: it called the moon card, you've got the two wolves
30:11
Speaker 2: fighting and then you've got the lobsters right there in
30:14
Speaker 2: front of them, or the two wolves on either side
30:17
Speaker 2: of the stream, and then you got the lobsters fighting
30:19
Speaker 2: in front of them. So there is a kind of
30:21
Speaker 2: an association between that, uh jacynthe rush centaur horse, hippogriff
30:30
Speaker 2: dog for twenty five and is the hippogriff the water horse?
30:36
Speaker 1: Not sure?
30:37
Speaker 2: Sure?
30:37
Speaker 1: Is actually interesting?
30:43
Speaker 2: All right? Black diamond, Indian hemp orchis orchis root and thistle,
30:50
Speaker 2: goat or ass twenty six. Oh you got some. That's
30:55
Speaker 2: some mawe and.
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Speaker 1: Hippogriff is the front half of an eagle and behind
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Speaker 1: half of a horse.
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Speaker 2: Huh, I've never heard of that. Yeah, right, that's a
31:07
Speaker 2: different type of griffin. All these symbols throughout all of
31:13
Speaker 2: these different stories come from magicians. You know. It's like
31:16
Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious.
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Speaker 1: You're the hippos meaning horse from ancient Greek and then
31:21
Speaker 1: Italian griffo meaning griffin.
31:26
Speaker 2: Interesting artificial glass, olive and coconut. I'm not sure why
31:32
Speaker 2: they put olive in parentheses. Man or eagle, cherub of air, peacock.
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Speaker 1: That's a very.
31:42
Speaker 2: Hera type thing right there with the peacock, and then
31:47
Speaker 2: pearl for number twenty nine, which is unicellular organisms and opium,
31:55
Speaker 2: so you can get some of that opium or you
31:59
Speaker 2: can use the the yeast back to the yeast fish
32:03
Speaker 2: or dolphin interesting twenty nine, and then chrysalith, sunflower, laurel, heliotrope, lion,
32:14
Speaker 2: and sparrowhawk for number thirty fire opal, red poppy, hibiscus,
32:20
Speaker 2: nettle lion, cherub of fire interesting, onyx ash cyprus hell
32:29
Speaker 2: bore you and night shade crocodile. That brings up some
32:34
Speaker 2: Egyptian ideas right there with the night shade and the crocodile.
32:39
Speaker 2: Sounds like some afterlife stuff going on. Salt oak, ivy
32:44
Speaker 2: bull or cherub of earth again. And then let's see
32:49
Speaker 2: thirty one biss almond flower, sphinx back up to the
32:54
Speaker 2: almond flower that's up there as well. You do this
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Speaker 2: one and then we can stop.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure already at thirty three minutes, you know.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well let's just come back next time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Actually I figured this is play just
33:11
Speaker 1: because of the last one. We did talk a lot
33:13
Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, that was more interesting shit, probably
33:17
Speaker 1: from our own use.
33:18
Speaker 2: Too, exactly right. I mean, all of this stuff needs
33:22
Speaker 2: to be synthesized with your own consciousness and your own
33:25
Speaker 2: understanding so that you can really get a feel for
33:28
Speaker 2: why these things are connected in the ways that they
33:30
Speaker 2: are within the Kabbala tree.
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Speaker 1: I would even say too, with some stuff in here.
33:35
Speaker 1: Some people have read other magic books where the people
33:37
Speaker 1: get into associations. You'll see a crossover as well. Eventually
33:41
Speaker 1: you'll be like, oh, yeah, I've heard that associated with
33:43
Speaker 1: that before and you know it's not you know, you'll
33:47
Speaker 1: see some shit, I think, especially in this part of
33:50
Speaker 1: the book.
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Speaker 2: And dude, indeed, so this has been another seven seven
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Speaker 2: seven guys join us Ain. Next time. We will get
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Speaker 2: into more of these associations and we will see you
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Speaker 2: again next time