Latest / The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast / Gambling on NFL Week 3 with Pro Gambler Simon Hunter
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Action Network.
- 0:12Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman. I Am going to be joined
- 0:16Speaker 1: by professional better Simon Hunter to talk about the week
- 0:21Speaker 1: three NFL games, to talk about our standing in the
- 0:24Speaker 1: Draft Kings Pro Football pick Up National Championship. Don't forget
- 0:28Speaker 1: we went five and oh in the first week. But
- 0:31Speaker 1: oh no, oh, my freaking god. No, the tragedy, the
- 0:38Speaker 1: extraordinary agony that is betting the NFL. Simon, you're listening,
- 0:44Speaker 1: will introduce you in a second. You'll appreciate this because
- 0:47Speaker 1: as we text on Sunday mornings about our games, I'm
- 0:50Speaker 1: sitting with my thirteen year old trying to give him
- 0:53Speaker 1: a betting education, as every proper young teenage boy should get.
- 0:58Speaker 1: So we're talking about all of our picks. We're talking
- 1:00Speaker 1: about the overs and the unders and the sides and whatever.
- 1:04Speaker 1: And uh then we what, We sit down and we
- 1:07Speaker 1: watched Red Zone for like, you know, ten hours, and
- 1:11Speaker 1: then we watched the Sunday night game, and in between that,
- 1:13Speaker 1: we're watching the Lakers Nuggets game, and we are like
- 1:15Speaker 1: having the greatest sports watching day ever, except we watch
- 1:22Speaker 1: the Jets in garbage time sneak out another over for
- 1:29Speaker 1: the second week in a row, the Jets or two
- 1:30Speaker 1: and oh they are undefeated in ruining people's unders this season.
- 1:36Speaker 1: We watch Learnard four net when the box are trying
- 1:39Speaker 1: to run at the clock score a touchdown to extend
- 1:44Speaker 1: the PA the Patriots. The Buccaneers lead, so the pay
- 1:48Speaker 1: the Panthers don't cover their eight and a half. And
- 1:51Speaker 1: then at night we watched the Patriots and we had
- 1:53Speaker 1: them plus three and a half in the contest. Uh,
- 1:55Speaker 1: stall out at the one yard line. So Simon Hunter
- 1:59Speaker 1: after going five know in the Draft Kings Pro Football
- 2:02Speaker 1: pick um contest last week we went two and three.
- 2:06Speaker 1: Oh my god, when you stick to your stomach, Hey, Chad, Yeah,
- 2:13Speaker 1: that sucked man. Uh. It was one of those two
- 2:16Speaker 1: where it's funny. Like my my other boss, he never
- 2:20Speaker 1: really hits me up after like our shows or like
- 2:23Speaker 1: what I post stuff on Twitter. He rarely will come in.
- 2:25Speaker 1: And I posted our picks and he immediately texted me
- 2:29Speaker 1: and said you should be fired for that Chiefs pick.
- 2:32Speaker 1: And I wrote back, I know, going against all everything
- 2:36Speaker 1: I know and taking the Chiefs here, and he goes,
- 2:38Speaker 1: nine cent of the money is on the Chiefs minus
- 2:42Speaker 1: eight and a half Vegas is undefeated. That's all he
- 2:45Speaker 1: said back and that kind of kind of got me
- 2:48Speaker 1: nervous going to the one gain games. I was like, man,
- 2:51Speaker 1: he's already calling his shot for this four o'clock game,
- 2:54Speaker 1: and I think we were one and one got the
- 2:57Speaker 1: back door. I mean, the Eagles one was brutal because
- 3:00Speaker 1: it was twenty I think it was, and Carson was driving.
- 3:03Speaker 1: You throw a Pixet pick in the end zone and
- 3:06Speaker 1: that was the end of that one. Let's what we had.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Let's remind it we had. We had the Eagles plus
- 3:11Speaker 1: one and a half. We had the Dolphins plus five
- 3:14Speaker 1: and a half, we had the Chiefs minus eight and
- 3:17Speaker 1: a half. I think we had um the Cardinals minus
- 3:22Speaker 1: six and a half, and then we had the Patriots
- 3:24Speaker 1: plus three and a half. So yeah, Eagles was heartbreaking,
- 3:29Speaker 1: Dolphins was lucky. Well that's when you played the numbers, baby,
- 3:33Speaker 1: that was just that numbers, that numbers too big. And
- 3:37Speaker 1: then the Cardinals when that was like, I thing gave it.
- 3:39Speaker 1: I was my that was my favorite bet last week.
- 3:41Speaker 1: That was a no sweat. I mean the minute that
- 3:42Speaker 1: game started, Kyle I was running around you go, Okay,
- 3:45Speaker 1: this is this is what we expect from the Cardinals.
- 3:48Speaker 1: But then as soon as I saw that Tyrod Taylor
- 3:52Speaker 1: was out, I was just floored because I love Herbert.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I gave it out to our loyal listener, is on
- 4:00Speaker 1: Twitter um about a month ago that I liked him
- 4:02Speaker 1: for Rookie of the Year. Is a good sleeper at
- 4:04Speaker 1: a plus a thousand, nine hundred And when he came in,
- 4:08Speaker 1: Chiefs have no tape on this kid. They're literally are
- 4:11Speaker 1: running at It wasn't that much difference in offense, but
- 4:14Speaker 1: he was He would take actual deep shots, where Taylor
- 4:17Speaker 1: would just throwing deep and hope for a passenger perence.
- 4:19Speaker 1: But this kid was taking deep shots and putting it
- 4:21Speaker 1: rund the money. So I was sweating that Chiefs game,
- 4:24Speaker 1: and I gave out to uh. So I did one
- 4:27Speaker 1: of my big bets of the year, like one of
- 4:30Speaker 1: my four big bets, and so I gave it out
- 4:32Speaker 1: to our listener, and it is one of those you
- 4:35Speaker 1: gotta you gotta have big bullets because I'm I literally
- 4:37Speaker 1: tell my clients, we're putting your whole balance on this bet.
- 4:40Speaker 1: You're going for a double up. So it was the
- 4:43Speaker 1: Browns money line, San Franz money line, and the chiefs
- 4:46Speaker 1: money line. So not only that wait wait wait wait
- 4:51Speaker 1: wait wait wait, explain to people a little bit, like
- 4:54Speaker 1: so people know earlier this summer when you came on
- 4:57Speaker 1: the podcast with me, we do a raise the pays
- 5:00Speaker 1: and we give away a prize and and uh, just
- 5:03Speaker 1: so people know, like we are doing another phrase that
- 5:07Speaker 1: pays this week. Every week Simon is joining the podcast.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Every week we are doing a phrase that pays UM
- 5:13Speaker 1: And so this week, last week, the phrase the pays
- 5:16Speaker 1: was Simon says, Let's go undefeated. As a reminder, you
- 5:20Speaker 1: go review the podcast, use the phrase Simon says, let's
- 5:24Speaker 1: bounce back, and if we like it and randomly choose it,
- 5:27Speaker 1: you will win a free action network cooty. We will
- 5:29Speaker 1: announce last week's winner who used Simon says let's go
- 5:32Speaker 1: and defeated Um at the end of the show. But
- 5:35Speaker 1: one of the prizes we had done earlier in the
- 5:37Speaker 1: year was you would give away like one of your
- 5:39Speaker 1: three or four biggest bets of the year to a listener.
- 5:42Speaker 1: And so this this was one of your biggest bets
- 5:44Speaker 1: of the year. Already we're in week two and you're
- 5:46Speaker 1: already feeling confident on that right and it's just I
- 5:50Speaker 1: it's more that I'm playing the numbers. That's like when
- 5:53Speaker 1: I put into my system like the Browns, the Chiefs
- 5:59Speaker 1: and San France money lines, they only kicked back that
- 6:02Speaker 1: I had a nine percent chance of failing, and so
- 6:04Speaker 1: I'm getting plus odds. So for my clients, they like
- 6:08Speaker 1: that that's a plus number. And when I give him
- 6:10Speaker 1: a double known questions, they all just play blindly because
- 6:13Speaker 1: they know that even if this one doesn't hit, the
- 6:16Speaker 1: next two will. That's just how I've built up my reputation.
- 6:19Speaker 1: So yeah, I sent this one out and of course
- 6:22Speaker 1: they say nothing. I give it to the Twitter guy
- 6:23Speaker 1: and I could tell he was just like the Browns,
- 6:26Speaker 1: like money Line, and I know there's a bunch of injuries,
- 6:30Speaker 1: so he was kind of a little hesitant about it.
- 6:31Speaker 1: But um, you know they rolled that was an easy
- 6:35Speaker 1: no sweat, San France easy no sweat, and that Chiefs.
- 6:38Speaker 1: When I had given up, I had done the classic
- 6:40Speaker 1: turned the phone off because I was just knew I
- 6:42Speaker 1: wasn't getting destroyed. Just because like the fact that Bob,
- 6:46Speaker 1: like my boss, seating up in the morning about being
- 6:47Speaker 1: an idiot about taking the Chiefs, I knew he was
- 6:50Speaker 1: just waiting. He was waiting for the charges of win
- 6:52Speaker 1: because that was such a trap game that I stepped
- 6:54Speaker 1: right into. And sure enough, Patrick Mahomes saved save my
- 6:59Speaker 1: save of my bank roll and uh, my client's bank
- 7:02Speaker 1: roll with that just unbelievable come back. Unbelievable comeback. But
- 7:08Speaker 1: it also it did sort of recalibrate I think, and
- 7:11Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about this, like the Chiefs
- 7:15Speaker 1: can be vulnerable at times in ways that the Ravens
- 7:20Speaker 1: appear to not be vulnerable at times. Um. And there
- 7:25Speaker 1: seems to be less volatility with the Ravens, and especially
- 7:28Speaker 1: as their defense is getting better. And I say that
- 7:32Speaker 1: only because like those are the class of the league, right,
- 7:35Speaker 1: Like there's no real competition in the NFC. It's not
- 7:39Speaker 1: as top heavy as sort of the consistency that we've
- 7:42Speaker 1: seen the last two seasons from the Chiefs and the Ravens.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Forgetting about the Packers for a second, I'm not that
- 7:47Speaker 1: sold on them yet, but so the Ravens to me
- 7:50Speaker 1: are already sort of separating themselves a little bit from
- 7:54Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Um And Yeah, that was just that was
- 8:00Speaker 1: totally crushing. Anthony Lynn Chris Ravan, one of our analysts
- 8:05Speaker 1: who you know and like who is also the co
- 8:08Speaker 1: host of the Action Network NFL podcast, which is blowing up.
- 8:11Speaker 1: By the way, if people are not listening to that
- 8:13Speaker 1: as well as this, then they should be go download,
- 8:16Speaker 1: go subscribe the great review Um. He basically says, Anthony
- 8:20Speaker 1: Lynn is an automatic fade like he played that game
- 8:22Speaker 1: as if he just wants to be a mediocre coach
- 8:25Speaker 1: focused on a little bit better than a five record,
- 8:28Speaker 1: And the fact that he's saying to Rod Taylor will
- 8:30Speaker 1: play again is more indication to that. The fact that
- 8:33Speaker 1: he didn't go for it on fourth and one is
- 8:36Speaker 1: more of an indication to that, not going forward on
- 8:37Speaker 1: fourth on one and overtime. What's your take on sort
- 8:40Speaker 1: of the Chargers as a team and Anthony Lynn as
- 8:43Speaker 1: a better I think they got No I'm not gonna
- 8:47Speaker 1: say they got lucky in that game, but I think
- 8:48Speaker 1: the Chiefs did sleepwalk. You're just watching that first half.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Everything looked out of sorts. They didn't look like they
- 8:54Speaker 1: really were there for a win. And he's gonna get
- 8:59Speaker 1: a lot of flak eth and allen Um for those statements.
- 9:01Speaker 1: But that's just coached off. That's just he's just acting
- 9:04Speaker 1: he's just gonna back his quote unquote starting quarterback and Taylor,
- 9:09Speaker 1: and he's gonna treat the rookie like he has to
- 9:12Speaker 1: earn that position. But everything I saw, that kid earned it.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I mean he he looked better than Taylor has his
- 9:18Speaker 1: entire career in his first start. So to me, I
- 9:20Speaker 1: think it's a no brainer. I think they're gonna keep
- 9:22Speaker 1: playing him, but we'll see. He seems like he might
- 9:24Speaker 1: be staunched in and he's gonna really start Taylor again.
- 9:28Speaker 1: And I don't know if I wanna, I don't want
- 9:32Speaker 1: to go too hard about that point on fourth and one.
- 9:35Speaker 1: I think he was trying to play a little bit
- 9:36Speaker 1: too much of a chess match, thinking that he could
- 9:38Speaker 1: get another stop here with his defense and you get
- 9:40Speaker 1: the ball back, which thinking against my homes is is
- 9:43Speaker 1: losing thinking. I don't I don't know why he was
- 9:45Speaker 1: thinking that way, but I'm with Chris, I gotta knock
- 9:50Speaker 1: him on that. That's a game that if they would
- 9:51Speaker 1: have stolen that one, they would have been one on one,
- 9:53Speaker 1: right net. I mean to no, that's that's a game
- 9:56Speaker 1: changing scenario for the entire season. So I don't think
- 9:59Speaker 1: that he failed his team in that spot. Completely failed
- 10:03Speaker 1: his team in that spot. It's disappointing. I actually like him,
- 10:05Speaker 1: like as a personality. You know, you get to know
- 10:07Speaker 1: these guys watching hard not to He just seems like
- 10:10Speaker 1: a guy that I want to root for and I
- 10:11Speaker 1: want to be able to coach that team for a
- 10:13Speaker 1: long time and to get a lot of opportunities to win.
- 10:15Speaker 1: And um, I root for the Chargers as an underdog
- 10:19Speaker 1: team in that l A market. You know, playing in
- 10:21Speaker 1: that stadium is sort of the second the Clippers of
- 10:24Speaker 1: that that stadium. But Jesus Christ Simon, we gotta bounce back.
- 10:29Speaker 1: So the good news is we're still seven and three.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Were still like in the money in the Draft Kings
- 10:33Speaker 1: Pro Football National pick Up, National Championship. But we gotta
- 10:38Speaker 1: make some moves, man, we need to find some winners.
- 10:42Speaker 1: It's true. And I'm heartbroken that you took that Jets
- 10:44Speaker 1: under when I was nice and nice enough to send
- 10:46Speaker 1: you two easy overs and that Dallas over in the
- 10:49Speaker 1: Green Bay over. But you like unders. You live for
- 10:52Speaker 1: understat I don't know why you punish yourself. I'm not
- 10:54Speaker 1: the sharpest NiFe from the drawer. I don't have to
- 10:56Speaker 1: tell you something like it's like I just sometimes I
- 10:59Speaker 1: just make bad decisions. Yeah, Vegas, they're all on these
- 11:03Speaker 1: lines kind of early here because they're just like all
- 11:05Speaker 1: of us there. I'm in the same way with my
- 11:07Speaker 1: system right now. Is I'm trying to learn is like
- 11:09Speaker 1: go here with COVID lines. You can see these no fans.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I definitely think it's having sluggish effects on some teams
- 11:15Speaker 1: where they're not coming out hard, they're starting slow. Uh,
- 11:19Speaker 1: these overs have been really cash and I mean these
- 11:22Speaker 1: defenses have not been tackling. So it's been kind of
- 11:25Speaker 1: funny here to start the year. Vegas is still catching
- 11:27Speaker 1: up with everything that's going on with COVID. All right, well, listen,
- 11:29Speaker 1: if you see some overs as we go through this
- 11:31Speaker 1: list and you feel strongly about them, you know, certainly
- 11:34Speaker 1: tell our users don't feel obligated to uh tell our
- 11:37Speaker 1: listeners don't feel obligated to stick to the sides. Let's
- 11:40Speaker 1: start with Thursday night. We're calling this are back in
- 11:43Speaker 1: the money week. We got Jaguars hosting the Dolphins. Jaguars
- 11:47Speaker 1: three point favorites. They showed so well this past week,
- 11:52Speaker 1: um as did the Dolphins. Like both of these teams
- 11:55Speaker 1: are just play hard teams I think. I feel like
- 11:58Speaker 1: the line is perfect on this one. Yeah, the classic
- 12:01Speaker 1: minus two two and a half minus three just for
- 12:05Speaker 1: a home team on Thursday night, and what we were
- 12:09Speaker 1: Just like you just said. I love about both these teams.
- 12:11Speaker 1: They don't care what the scores. They just keep fighting.
- 12:14Speaker 1: They don't care what they're supposed to be, how bad
- 12:15Speaker 1: they're supposed to be. And no, everyone knows. I'm one
- 12:20Speaker 1: of the biggest jack fans out there. I got plenty
- 12:23Speaker 1: of money on their over five and alf I mean
- 12:25Speaker 1: five and four and a half for the season win totals,
- 12:28Speaker 1: and I do I do. I think a lot of
- 12:32Speaker 1: people are gonna roll the Jags here like a no
- 12:35Speaker 1: brainer home team on a Thursday night. I'm with them.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I like taking bad teams, but it does make me
- 12:40Speaker 1: a little nervous where the Dolphins are owing too, and
- 12:44Speaker 1: we'll talk about a lot in this upcoming podcast. Statistically
- 12:48Speaker 1: owned two teams straight up and two teams against eight
- 12:51Speaker 1: t s against the spread. They do good in Week three.
- 12:54Speaker 1: I think it's like sixty two or sixty three pcent
- 12:56Speaker 1: out of cover rate. So this is one of those
- 12:58Speaker 1: where I'm gonna roll Jacksonville. I like the bad team
- 13:01Speaker 1: at home, but I don't feel confident enough to put
- 13:03Speaker 1: it in our in our picks, definitely not. And I
- 13:06Speaker 1: kind of like Miami. I actually think I trust Ryan
- 13:09Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick more than I trust Gardner Minshew fits magic, magic, magic,
- 13:16Speaker 1: but more important to have a starting Their best starting
- 13:18Speaker 1: corner is out Miami. I believe that's what Diggs went off.
- 13:24Speaker 1: That's when they switching a rookie. That's when Diggs I think,
- 13:26Speaker 1: went for against this rookie. So it is that is
- 13:29Speaker 1: something we'll keep an eye on. Forget my analysis, then
- 13:32Speaker 1: let's move on. Let's transition to the early games. We've
- 13:35Speaker 1: got the Steelers minus three and a half getting about
- 13:40Speaker 1: the best eight five pent of the money still early. Um,
- 13:44Speaker 1: that's the draft Kings number three and a half. This
- 13:48Speaker 1: feels this feels to me like the Steelers, and it's
- 13:55Speaker 1: it's one of those where it will hold your nose
- 13:57Speaker 1: kind of bet all the numbers. Everything you read, it's
- 14:01Speaker 1: gonna say how Houston is terrible, their alignes terrible, Pittsburgh
- 14:05Speaker 1: has arguably the best line of football. They're healthy. But
- 14:10Speaker 1: I took this number of five and a half on
- 14:11Speaker 1: Sunday night with Houston looking at They just played the Chiefs,
- 14:16Speaker 1: who you just said, he thinks one of the best
- 14:17Speaker 1: teams on football, and then the Ravens, who you just said,
- 14:19Speaker 1: he thinks one of the best teams on football. So
- 14:22Speaker 1: we're not gonna get lower value than you are right
- 14:25Speaker 1: now in the Houston every everyone's gonna be off Houston.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Houston has looked terrible. They've just been abused two games
- 14:30Speaker 1: in a row, didn't cover, didn't win straight up. So
- 14:33Speaker 1: it's back to that number I told you about. They
- 14:36Speaker 1: have a sixty chance of covering this. So that's one
- 14:39Speaker 1: of those where you're gonna bet this game. You gotta
- 14:41Speaker 1: take Texas and trust the numbers that Houston is going
- 14:44Speaker 1: to cover that number. I know, don't tell me that.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Do not do not tell me that I've got a
- 14:56Speaker 1: bet on Houston. I've I've assiduously avoided Houston this year,
- 15:01Speaker 1: and you know what, other than this past weekend. So
- 15:04Speaker 1: in the first weekend, I felt great, like I didn't
- 15:07Speaker 1: have any of that Texas heart Texas heartbreak. We're like,
- 15:10Speaker 1: I'm miserable watching a team underperform. So don't give me
- 15:13Speaker 1: this bullshit. I know. I'm just trying to see the
- 15:17Speaker 1: fans right, this is this is a trap you got
- 15:19Speaker 1: you gotta go Texans here, all right? Do we like
- 15:22Speaker 1: him enough to be in the in the contest um?
- 15:27Speaker 1: It might be a little too sharp, I'll put on
- 15:28Speaker 1: the side for now. It could. It's a question mark
- 15:31Speaker 1: for us. Uh. Next game Titans Vikings Vikings plus two
- 15:37Speaker 1: and a half at home against the Titans. Dude, you
- 15:43Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna say here, come on, I know
- 15:49Speaker 1: and I know what you What I'm gonna say is
- 15:51Speaker 1: that this is one of those positions you're supposed to
- 15:54Speaker 1: take Minnesota at home, but there's no fans. So that's
- 15:58Speaker 1: what's really throwing me for a loop. Here go is
- 16:01Speaker 1: this is such an auto easy play in a normal
- 16:04Speaker 1: season with fans at home, but without it, the Titans
- 16:08Speaker 1: should steam all these guys there at every position they're better.
- 16:12Speaker 1: I even think Tannehill is a better quarterback than Kirk
- 16:14Speaker 1: right now. I think that something's wrong in Minnesota. Like
- 16:18Speaker 1: we were talking last week, they're using these first four
- 16:20Speaker 1: weeks as a preseason kind of for their defense. And
- 16:24Speaker 1: their defense actually even played terrible against the Colts. Their
- 16:27Speaker 1: offense was terrible. I couldn't believe how bad Kirk was
- 16:32Speaker 1: so it makes me nervous that it's again that situation
- 16:36Speaker 1: of an own two team own two against the spread,
- 16:39Speaker 1: and we want to go against them. So that's the
- 16:42Speaker 1: only thing that gives me really big policy with the Titans.
- 16:47Speaker 1: All right, then we're taking it out because I kind
- 16:50Speaker 1: of feel like this is the spot for the Vikings,
- 16:54Speaker 1: and what we've seen with the Titans two weeks in
- 16:56Speaker 1: a row is not really being able to put away
- 16:58Speaker 1: bad teams exactly, you know. And I don't know what
- 17:02Speaker 1: that is a function of UM against the Broncos and
- 17:06Speaker 1: against the against the Jaguars UM. So I don't think
- 17:11Speaker 1: we can in good conscious keep this team on our list.
- 17:14Speaker 1: And and you and I are and you and I
- 17:17Speaker 1: are split, we are I mean, I know you like
- 17:20Speaker 1: the Titans, but you and I are split. Alright, This
- 17:22Speaker 1: next one, Oh my god, Bears Falcons Uh Falcons at
- 17:29Speaker 1: Atlanta are three and a half point favorites. What the freak?
- 17:36Speaker 1: What the dude? Dude? That Cowboys game was re ridiculous,
- 17:44Speaker 1: But it proved every single thing we've been saying about
- 17:47Speaker 1: the Falcons, dan Quinn, Matt Ryan. They are a sugar
- 17:50Speaker 1: rush of a franchise. They are a team that will
- 17:54Speaker 1: have no relevance. Generations from now you will think about
- 17:58Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Calvin Ridley and Julio Jones and they
- 18:03Speaker 1: will be thought of as less than the Dan Fouts
- 18:08Speaker 1: era Chargers. Yeah, I think people are gonna remember them
- 18:12Speaker 1: for fantasy. That's what. That's what Atlanta is there a
- 18:15Speaker 1: fantasy gold mine other than that. Yeah, this is uh,
- 18:20Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of these games where everyone's
- 18:21Speaker 1: gonna come in on Atlanta. After last week, Bears haven't
- 18:25Speaker 1: looked good. Atlanta looked like they're right there. It's just
- 18:29Speaker 1: like you just said that was didn't you give out
- 18:32Speaker 1: live Cowboys money line? I did, and I gave it
- 18:35Speaker 1: out early. It was like they were down, they were
- 18:38Speaker 1: down twenty nothing, and I said, I said, now look,
- 18:41Speaker 1: I said, look, Cowboys are plus four. You have to
- 18:46Speaker 1: take this. And it turns out I should have waited
- 18:49Speaker 1: until the middle of the fourth quarter even even that,
- 18:53Speaker 1: like I didn't. I think I saw it about twenty
- 18:56Speaker 1: minutes after you posted it and I got Dallas. I
- 18:58Speaker 1: think plus five fifty only like I only threw a
- 19:00Speaker 1: grain on it, but I was like, I like this angle.
- 19:03Speaker 1: As soon as that fourth quarter started, I go that
- 19:05Speaker 1: that's dead. There is no mathematical way they come back
- 19:08Speaker 1: and cover that number. I saw our good friend Darren
- 19:10Speaker 1: tweeted out someone put like thirty five k or something
- 19:13Speaker 1: like that, live on Atlanta and maybe like a three
- 19:16Speaker 1: grand or a grand, and that will So people don't
- 19:21Speaker 1: bet that way, don't don't don't play it that scary.
- 19:23Speaker 1: That's great. Let a second, it was plus five fifty.
- 19:27Speaker 1: You threw a grand on it, So you want like
- 19:30Speaker 1: bucks on that game? Yeah, but I mean I told you,
- 19:34Speaker 1: man that the amount of money I had on that
- 19:36Speaker 1: Brown's Sam Franchie's game, I'd be I'd be dead. I
- 19:40Speaker 1: might be dead after that one because I was literally
- 19:44Speaker 1: like so confident, like I just said out to like
- 19:47Speaker 1: all the all the people, and I was just like
- 19:49Speaker 1: like I showed my own tickets. I was like I
- 19:50Speaker 1: probably had around a hundred k, not even joking on
- 19:53Speaker 1: like that game, and I was just all in because
- 19:55Speaker 1: I was just there's no way. So I think some
- 19:57Speaker 1: two that there was it was like over a seven
- 19:59Speaker 1: figure swing and on books from that chief skin that
- 20:02Speaker 1: field goal, like on teasers and stuff like that. I joked,
- 20:05Speaker 1: that's probably half from my clients because they were just
- 20:07Speaker 1: all into like no one was really I gave out
- 20:09Speaker 1: other bets, no one tallied these other bets. They're all
- 20:12Speaker 1: just on the one big bet. So yeah, man, I
- 20:14Speaker 1: was five grand, But it's great. You wann't have five grand.
- 20:18Speaker 1: I'm super excited for you. But if you have that
- 20:21Speaker 1: much money riding on that kind of bet, like are
- 20:25Speaker 1: you done for the year, Like you're playing from such
- 20:27Speaker 1: a positive at this point? Uh, not really becase. Honest,
- 20:31Speaker 1: I probably won one was that much Week one because
- 20:33Speaker 1: I couldn't miss Week one, especially with like the I
- 20:36Speaker 1: like giving out two team money lines. That's like my
- 20:39Speaker 1: favorite thing to give out. So I just feel like
- 20:41Speaker 1: any favorite you could think of, I like stacking them.
- 20:43Speaker 1: So if I felt really good last week about Pittsburgh's moneyline,
- 20:46Speaker 1: Green Bay's money line, I'll stack those and maybe I'll
- 20:49Speaker 1: throw in the Chiefs or I'll throw in Baltimore and
- 20:50Speaker 1: other things with that. So week one none of those
- 20:54Speaker 1: missed all those money lines because I wasn't on the
- 20:57Speaker 1: Colts money line like a lot of people, where I
- 20:59Speaker 1: was on the Jags money line. So when you have
- 21:02Speaker 1: when I had a Week one like that, That's what
- 21:03Speaker 1: I'm telling my clients as I say take everything we
- 21:05Speaker 1: one week one because you're not affecting your original bank
- 21:08Speaker 1: roll for the season and just put all of it
- 21:10Speaker 1: on this one big bet. That's the reason I took
- 21:12Speaker 1: an early big bet like that. It was just because
- 21:14Speaker 1: I'm in a good mode. I'm seeing the game pretty good.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Obviously I should the bet here. We went two and
- 21:18Speaker 1: three last week. But uh, for the most part, I've
- 21:23Speaker 1: been pretty spot on with like these money lines and
- 21:25Speaker 1: things like that. Where last week was a fluke week
- 21:27Speaker 1: where it was what fifteen in or No. Fourteen and
- 21:31Speaker 1: two favorites money lines, So I got lucky on that one. Yeah,
- 21:36Speaker 1: you shipped the bed on the five games that mattered,
- 21:40Speaker 1: and you did great on all your big money bets.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Nice job, Nice job, Simon Hunter. It's still top forty
- 21:47Speaker 1: in the week two. That's all right the money. I mean, well,
- 21:52Speaker 1: are we skipping the Bears Falcons? Like, are we just
- 21:54Speaker 1: not including it? It's up to you. I love the Bears.
- 21:58Speaker 1: I'm hoping this number keeps own because maybe the public
- 22:01Speaker 1: will come in with all the other sharp money and
- 22:03Speaker 1: just keep betting the land up because I allly know
- 22:04Speaker 1: their takeing one. I just told you the statistic they're
- 22:06Speaker 1: own two straight up, and they're one on one right
- 22:09Speaker 1: now in the spread. So a lot of people like
- 22:11Speaker 1: this Falcons, right. I like the value on the Bears.
- 22:13Speaker 1: I think the Bears defense can actually get stops where
- 22:16Speaker 1: I don't have any faith in the Falcons defense to
- 22:18Speaker 1: get stops. Well, I gotta tell you, I kind of
- 22:21Speaker 1: like the Bears on this side too. All right, let's
- 22:23Speaker 1: put them in for now, all right. Uh, the injury
- 22:27Speaker 1: riddled San Francisco forty Niners visiting the break your heart
- 22:32Speaker 1: New York Giants. Look, even at four and a half,
- 22:35Speaker 1: the Giants are four and a half point underdogs here
- 22:38Speaker 1: even at four and a half, um, there's no way.
- 22:41Speaker 1: And and right now the Giants getting you know, a
- 22:44Speaker 1: preponderance of the money, about six of the money coming
- 22:48Speaker 1: in on the Giants and the tickets. So what this
- 22:51Speaker 1: is telling you is that wise guys like the Giants
- 22:53Speaker 1: right now. I'm not betting Danny dimes um because in
- 22:58Speaker 1: two games now I have seen him, uh put the
- 23:03Speaker 1: Giants in a position to both win and lose, and
- 23:06Speaker 1: he's just not going to be a guy that, like
- 23:08Speaker 1: you can count on to make the right decisions in
- 23:11Speaker 1: the moments when you need the right decision to be
- 23:13Speaker 1: made for your bet. It's just to me, he is
- 23:15Speaker 1: a no bet on quarterback until he gets his turnovers
- 23:19Speaker 1: under control. Right. Everything you said there is right. I
- 23:22Speaker 1: think maybe the sharp money came in early because they
- 23:24Speaker 1: were all bank on Nick Mullins making that start, because
- 23:27Speaker 1: he was horrible against the Jets. If the Jets could
- 23:30Speaker 1: actually stop a running back, then that might have been
- 23:32Speaker 1: a close game they could cover. But they're giving up
- 23:35Speaker 1: like fifty yard carriers on third and twenties there. The
- 23:37Speaker 1: Jets are just horrible. So I'm with them on the
- 23:41Speaker 1: Giants here early because that's the value if Nick. If
- 23:44Speaker 1: it is, Jimmy's gonna be out, Nick boss out. I
- 23:47Speaker 1: know another first round. I think Solomon Thomas is out,
- 23:50Speaker 1: Sam Frands banged up, and they're they're probably having nightmares
- 23:53Speaker 1: about this turf field that they just played on and
- 23:55Speaker 1: now they're about to play again at Met Life. So
- 23:59Speaker 1: I like that number. We can wait. I know you
- 24:02Speaker 1: don't want to play it in, so we probably won't
- 24:03Speaker 1: put it in. But if it comes Sunday and they
- 24:05Speaker 1: got Nick Molans and it will be hard not to
- 24:07Speaker 1: put the Giants in a four and a half. That's
- 24:09Speaker 1: just good value against a backup quarterback that's terrible. All right, listen,
- 24:13Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do exactly what
- 24:15Speaker 1: you just said. We're gonna wait because I don't want
- 24:19Speaker 1: sort of my biases and what I've seen to dictate
- 24:25Speaker 1: like making the wrong choice against the Math, just because
- 24:29Speaker 1: I'm going to be miserable on Sunday having to watch
- 24:32Speaker 1: this team. If we gets the right side on Sunday,
- 24:35Speaker 1: it's going to be the right side and I'm not
- 24:37Speaker 1: gonna do anything to change that. Um, So let's keep
- 24:39Speaker 1: them in there as like a maybe for now. Yeah,
- 24:41Speaker 1: this is one of the few games I was able
- 24:43Speaker 1: to work on this morning. And if like we got
- 24:45Speaker 1: Nick Molins and this this line should be minus two,
- 24:47Speaker 1: minus two and a half same frame, So we're getting
- 24:49Speaker 1: good value there if it is him on the Giant.
- 24:51Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll just hold off on that one, all right. Uh.
- 24:54Speaker 1: The Las Vegas Radars coming off a big win last
- 24:57Speaker 1: night against Drew Brees, who really look, it's like he
- 25:02Speaker 1: couldn't throw the ball downfield and was hobbling like my
- 25:05Speaker 1: eight h five and a half on the road against
- 25:10Speaker 1: the New England Patriots who completely broke our heart Simon.
- 25:15Speaker 1: They were down with five minutes left or thirty five
- 25:19Speaker 1: minutes left. It's one of the first times in my
- 25:21Speaker 1: life I just turned it off. I'm like, you know what,
- 25:24Speaker 1: there's there's no I cannot see the math in which
- 25:27Speaker 1: they get an opportunity to even cover this game. So
- 25:31Speaker 1: I went to bed and did not realize until the
- 25:33Speaker 1: morning how heartbreaking it was and how much I'm how
- 25:37Speaker 1: happy I was that I just didn't do it, that
- 25:39Speaker 1: I didn't stay up to watch this game and be heartbroken.
- 25:42Speaker 1: That was horrible, and it was one of those I
- 25:44Speaker 1: was trying to go to bed too, but I just
- 25:46Speaker 1: kept picking up my phone and throwing on like the
- 25:48Speaker 1: Ottawa ever sports happened watching the game, and sure enough
- 25:51Speaker 1: Cam just kept making like they got a good stop
- 25:54Speaker 1: the Patriots, and they got the ball back. Cam had
- 25:56Speaker 1: a great drive, gets down to the one, and I
- 26:00Speaker 1: don't hate the play call they took it. They did
- 26:02Speaker 1: Cam from a shotgun. But when you have a guy
- 26:03Speaker 1: like that, I don't I don't get why he just
- 26:05Speaker 1: to go up to the line and just try to
- 26:06Speaker 1: jump it or anything like that. It was just weird.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Adams really just he was a game changer for the
- 26:13Speaker 1: Seahawks in that game. There was a couple of times
- 26:15Speaker 1: where you could really feel his effect on the Seahawks
- 26:17Speaker 1: that he is just the highest of talent of safety
- 26:21Speaker 1: and he's a game change in that game. So this
- 26:24Speaker 1: week it's an easy pick where you got our team
- 26:28Speaker 1: that just went on the road. The Patriots lost coming
- 26:31Speaker 1: home against the team that just blew out a team
- 26:34Speaker 1: they shouldn't have blown out, coming all the way up north.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Feeling good on a short week. I love this number.
- 26:41Speaker 1: I got it seven and a half. So I think
- 26:42Speaker 1: the Raiders, the public's to me betting them, people who
- 26:46Speaker 1: live in Vegas for me betting them because this feels
- 26:47Speaker 1: like a high number, especially if you're seeing their offense
- 26:49Speaker 1: looks so good against New Orleans. But I'm gonna back
- 26:52Speaker 1: to Patriots here. Wow, you feel that good about it?
- 26:56Speaker 1: I do. I just feel like it's a great, great
- 26:58Speaker 1: spot where we're gonna get in value on the Patriots
- 27:02Speaker 1: just because they people should be behind, and they played
- 27:05Speaker 1: the Seahawks really well for I would say three quarters
- 27:09Speaker 1: of that game they had. They had a good quarter
- 27:11Speaker 1: there in the second quarter where they just didn't they
- 27:13Speaker 1: were just letting rust whatever you want. I mean, he
- 27:16Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is the next level where he only won
- 27:18Speaker 1: by five points. Their cars nowhere near the talent Russell
- 27:22Speaker 1: Wilson is. I think this secondary will have a much
- 27:24Speaker 1: better game here against the Raiders than they did against Seattle.
- 27:28Speaker 1: So Russell Wilson and Jamoral Adams, that was the kind
- 27:31Speaker 1: of game where you wanted to have bought stock and
- 27:37Speaker 1: in Russell Wilson is the m v P before that game,
- 27:41Speaker 1: because that is a sort of season narrative setting game
- 27:45Speaker 1: and broadcast where Chris Raybon had written about this last week,
- 27:49Speaker 1: like letting Russ cook right and how dominant he is
- 27:53Speaker 1: and how how all those old tropes about what you
- 27:56Speaker 1: think you need to be a championship team he completely
- 28:00Speaker 1: estimates because of the way he plays, like you know,
- 28:02Speaker 1: the the value of a good offensive line, things like that,
- 28:05Speaker 1: because he's such a game changer, he can do things
- 28:07Speaker 1: so differently, so all of a sudden And the one
- 28:10Speaker 1: thing he noted was the fact he's never gotten an
- 28:14Speaker 1: m v P bot. And Chris collins Worth talked about
- 28:17Speaker 1: this in the broadcast, like he said he voted for
- 28:19Speaker 1: him one year, but he sent his ballot in late
- 28:21Speaker 1: so it didn't count, and now all of a sudden,
- 28:23Speaker 1: like the narrative is going to be wait a second,
- 28:25Speaker 1: Russell Wilson never got him a VP vote. So right now,
- 28:29Speaker 1: I'm telling you, right now, m v P for the
- 28:32Speaker 1: NFL is coming down to Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray.
- 28:37Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think what's going to hurt
- 28:39Speaker 1: them is the fact that they're in that division where
- 28:41Speaker 1: there is no easy out. There's once later in the
- 28:45Speaker 1: season they're all playing each other. We'll really get a
- 28:47Speaker 1: good read on this, but if things keep going the
- 28:51Speaker 1: way they are, it's gonna be tough not to give
- 28:53Speaker 1: it to Lamar again, just because that team is hammed,
- 28:55Speaker 1: like you said, and it's been two years now there
- 28:57Speaker 1: Hammed so sale Lamari was able to go for a
- 29:00Speaker 1: team and two again and Russ has a great year,
- 29:03Speaker 1: he swel them four, they're probably gonna give it to
- 29:05Speaker 1: They're probably gonna give it to him again. So I'm
- 29:08Speaker 1: still with you that I do love Russell, but I'm
- 29:11Speaker 1: still on Lamar from VP train. Matt Mitchell producer, Matt Mitchell,
- 29:16Speaker 1: can you give me a favorite while we're doing this podcast?
- 29:18Speaker 1: Look up the odds for Kyler Murray to win the
- 29:21Speaker 1: m v P and the Cardinals to win the NFC West,
- 29:25Speaker 1: Because I'm going to counter your narrative here, Simon and
- 29:29Speaker 1: say that whoever's whichever quarterback wins the NFC West will
- 29:35Speaker 1: win the NFL m v P this year. You got it.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell is gonna look that up alright, So Patriots,
- 29:43Speaker 1: strong love for the Patriots. I could get behind that
- 29:46Speaker 1: Eagles five and a half at home against the Bengals.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Good God, this is a train wreck of a team, Simon,
- 29:54Speaker 1: Hunter in your backyard, Uh, Carson wentz, like you mentioned,
- 29:57Speaker 1: through that pick when they really had a chance to
- 29:59Speaker 1: like they were playing well and they had a chance
- 30:03Speaker 1: to do some damage there and never got it back.
- 30:06Speaker 1: After Carson went through that pick in the end zone
- 30:10Speaker 1: and watching that game, Carson just looks scared. You had
- 30:13Speaker 1: a couple of times when you could have stepped up
- 30:14Speaker 1: got her first down by running it where he could
- 30:17Speaker 1: have stepped up hit a guy deep. But he's panicking,
- 30:20Speaker 1: he's doing short tosses. He's not really letting the game
- 30:23Speaker 1: come to him. Like the year it's about two years
- 30:26Speaker 1: ago now, the year he should have won MDP that
- 30:28Speaker 1: he towards a c L. So I can't touch this game.
- 30:32Speaker 1: If if you need me to pick a side, I'm
- 30:34Speaker 1: gonna lean Philadelphia just because of the statistic I gave
- 30:38Speaker 1: you that their own two straight up, their own two
- 30:39Speaker 1: against the spread. And it's still a rookie quarterback coming
- 30:44Speaker 1: on the road to play a veteran defense for the
- 30:47Speaker 1: most part. So I'll back to the US here, but
- 30:50Speaker 1: I would not at all, uh put them in our picks.
- 30:54Speaker 1: By the way, the money is coming in on the Eagles,
- 30:57Speaker 1: the bets. The public is backing the Joe Burrow led
- 31:03Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, probably because they loved watching him throw sixty
- 31:07Speaker 1: passes and sneak in the back door. Another disgusting loss
- 31:13Speaker 1: while we wanted in our survivor pool and our joint
- 31:16Speaker 1: draftking survivor pool. Um a really heartbreaking loss for the Browns. Uh.
- 31:23Speaker 1: In terms of being what was it, I think they
- 31:25Speaker 1: were I think it was six, five and a half
- 31:28Speaker 1: or six. And it was funny we started with survivor
- 31:36Speaker 1: pool already down to seventy thousand. Oh my god. Two
- 31:40Speaker 1: weeks in seventy crazy unbelievable Washington football team visiting said
- 31:45Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Uh Browns are a touchdown favorite. This kind
- 31:52Speaker 1: of makes sense to me, Like it's almost like, you know,
- 31:57Speaker 1: there's that transitive property, right. So the Washington football team
- 32:02Speaker 1: plays the Eagles in Week one, then the Eagles blow
- 32:05Speaker 1: up against the Rams in Week two. The Washington football
- 32:09Speaker 1: team just looks terrible in their Week two games. Like
- 32:15Speaker 1: it turns out the Washington football team is bad, but
- 32:18Speaker 1: the Eagles are really bad. So the number of a
- 32:21Speaker 1: touchdown kind of makes sense to me against the Brown's
- 32:23Speaker 1: team that UH performed admirably against the Bengals, an equally
- 32:29Speaker 1: bad team, and different books have this up to seven
- 32:32Speaker 1: and a half now with Washington. So when I look
- 32:36Speaker 1: at this football team there obviously there's the strength of
- 32:39Speaker 1: the whole team is that D line. And that's why
- 32:43Speaker 1: I like Kyler so much last week. He can expose
- 32:45Speaker 1: the D line like that because he's so quick he
- 32:47Speaker 1: can get around that stuff. Well, we got Baker, who's
- 32:50Speaker 1: a first read quarterback that stands back there like a
- 32:53Speaker 1: statue for the most part, he doesn't scramble much. I
- 32:56Speaker 1: do like this number a lot with Washington. The only
- 32:58Speaker 1: thing that's giving me hesitation it's their back to back
- 33:01Speaker 1: road games. So seven and a half, that's really enticing
- 33:05Speaker 1: because the Browns they're not a team that can hold
- 33:08Speaker 1: onto these leads that Burrow looked incredible against them passing
- 33:12Speaker 1: because they're really banged up right now, the Browns in
- 33:14Speaker 1: the second day. So I'm big here on Washington, but
- 33:19Speaker 1: I get it they're so ugly we don't have to
- 33:20Speaker 1: put them in. Well, dude, you're the professional like this.
- 33:25Speaker 1: This is part of the game. Is we're not supposed
- 33:27Speaker 1: to bring a public mindset to these things because it's
- 33:30Speaker 1: it's people like me that would say, I'm not betting
- 33:33Speaker 1: the Giants. I'm not betting Washington. Like being a professional
- 33:36Speaker 1: better means you gotta bet the teams that you gotta
- 33:39Speaker 1: hold your nose on because that's where the value is
- 33:40Speaker 1: going to be. It's true if you're telling me Washington
- 33:44Speaker 1: is like according to your models, where where do you
- 33:47Speaker 1: have this game? I got six, so I got pretty
- 33:50Speaker 1: much we're gonna if it goes to seven, half, we're
- 33:52Speaker 1: gonna point the half of value. That's why I do
- 33:54Speaker 1: really like Washington here because it's people are buying in
- 33:57Speaker 1: on the Browns again, they're buying high and no one
- 34:00Speaker 1: wants to back Washington after they just got dominated by
- 34:02Speaker 1: what we were just talking about, maybe the m VP
- 34:04Speaker 1: of the league and Kyler Murray. So I do like
- 34:07Speaker 1: this Washington number here, we can put it in. All right,
- 34:10Speaker 1: let's put it in. Let's put it in. We're putting
- 34:12Speaker 1: it in. So ugly Bills two and a half against
- 34:19Speaker 1: the Rams in Buffalo, dropping money coming in and I'm
- 34:30Speaker 1: gonna back the Bills here. Uh, the Rams are gonna
- 34:34Speaker 1: get the hype because they've looked really good two weeks
- 34:37Speaker 1: in a row. Let's go over here. They just beat
- 34:39Speaker 1: they beat the Cowboys, who have a horrible defense apparently,
- 34:44Speaker 1: and then they beat the Eagles, who might be one
- 34:47Speaker 1: of the worst teams in football. And it's tough with
- 34:52Speaker 1: the Bills. I know, They've just played back to back
- 34:54Speaker 1: divisional games against two of the worst teams in their division.
- 34:59Speaker 1: And Josh Allen had moments where he looks really great.
- 35:01Speaker 1: He can get outside, he can throw on the just
- 35:04Speaker 1: on a rope right on time to the digs and
- 35:08Speaker 1: look great. But there's other times where he just misses
- 35:10Speaker 1: guy's wide open, their attend free in front of him,
- 35:12Speaker 1: and he does stupid things. Still, Josh Allen so I'm
- 35:15Speaker 1: gonna back the Bills, but we don't. I don't want
- 35:18Speaker 1: to put them in our competition. I think it's too risky,
- 35:20Speaker 1: not knowing what Josh Allen, We're gonna get on that
- 35:23Speaker 1: on Sunday. I totally agree with you. I don't even
- 35:26Speaker 1: want to talk about this game. Let's move on to
- 35:28Speaker 1: another game. That is just disgusting. This is like make
- 35:33Speaker 1: you throw up your lunch in your mouth, disgusting, honest
- 35:37Speaker 1: to God. Like you're telling me the Jets and the
- 35:40Speaker 1: Colts at plus seven, the Jets are visiting Indianapolis and
- 35:46Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. What do we do here? So I got
- 35:50Speaker 1: I got this line at ten and a half now
- 35:52Speaker 1: with the Jets, and I don't even know how many
- 35:56Speaker 1: bets I did. I did a lot with the Colts
- 35:58Speaker 1: money line. I mean, it's been definitely be in our
- 36:00Speaker 1: survivor pool this week. It's a perfect week to just
- 36:02Speaker 1: to use the Colts against the worst team in football. UM,
- 36:07Speaker 1: normal year, not quarantine. This is a trap. This is
- 36:10Speaker 1: the time where you take the Jets after they have
- 36:12Speaker 1: just been dominated two games in a row. You're been
- 36:15Speaker 1: on the bounce back. But the Jets right now remind
- 36:18Speaker 1: me of Miami Dolphins. Last year, the Dolphins. Every week
- 36:20Speaker 1: they're losing by like forty points. To start the year.
- 36:23Speaker 1: They were just horrible until that kind of got healthy
- 36:25Speaker 1: and clicked later in the season. So I'm big on
- 36:28Speaker 1: fading the Jets here. But that's way too many points
- 36:31Speaker 1: the back Folk rivers that minus tend and a half.
- 36:33Speaker 1: I'm cool to just staying away. Yeah, I want to
- 36:35Speaker 1: stay away. You're right, it's a ten and a half.
- 36:37Speaker 1: I looked at the opening number, so it's already moved.
- 36:40Speaker 1: It's already moved three and a half points. Yeah, the Jets.
- 36:43Speaker 1: The Jets are done right now. Uh, next game in
- 36:47Speaker 1: the late late game window, Panthers Chargers. Chargers are what
- 36:52Speaker 1: do we see? Six and a half? Maybe a touchdown? Um,
- 36:56Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of money. Of the money coming coming
- 37:02Speaker 1: in on the Panthers, Matt Mitchell, are we gonna walk
- 37:05Speaker 1: into the hornets nest on this one? I think so.
- 37:08Speaker 1: I'm walking to a fucking hornets nest? All right now,
- 37:10Speaker 1: be my companion. I need you to make me help
- 37:13Speaker 1: them be jealous of me. Of the money coming in
- 37:17Speaker 1: on the Panthers. Right now, they are seven point dogs
- 37:20Speaker 1: playing without Christian McCaffrey on the road at Los Angeles.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Tell me why in the world would money be coming
- 37:26Speaker 1: in on the Panthers here, Simon Hunter, that's shocking that
- 37:30Speaker 1: that that higher percentage, because must the public must not
- 37:33Speaker 1: want to touch this game at all, So that's that's
- 37:35Speaker 1: just pure sharp money. It sounds like to me, Um
- 37:39Speaker 1: from their angle, I think Teddy Bridgewater at seven that
- 37:43Speaker 1: was a good number because in no world are the
- 37:47Speaker 1: charges blowing anyone out there. There ain't gonna be an
- 37:50Speaker 1: easy backdoor team. It feels like the whole year. We
- 37:52Speaker 1: might have just saw them play the game of the
- 37:54Speaker 1: year for them last week, like that was their super
- 37:57Speaker 1: Bowl and you got the Panthers coming off a divisional
- 38:00Speaker 1: blown Outlaws. So I'm with them. I backed the Panthers
- 38:04Speaker 1: here with the points. Um, I would definitely wait to
- 38:08Speaker 1: see what QB starting. I feel honestly better when Taylor
- 38:11Speaker 1: is starting. I do Herbert, So I would wait on
- 38:13Speaker 1: that number if you're gonna bet it. But you like
- 38:16Speaker 1: the Panthers in that spot, I do. I think that
- 38:19Speaker 1: it's after like a again, they just had where it
- 38:23Speaker 1: was close and they made a couple of little mistakes
- 38:25Speaker 1: where it made it turn into a blowout. They should
- 38:27Speaker 1: have covered that number. I think you're getting good value here.
- 38:29Speaker 1: On the next the following the week after, the Chargers
- 38:31Speaker 1: should have won against the Chiefs on this number. This,
- 38:35Speaker 1: this number should be three and a half four. Are
- 38:37Speaker 1: you saying we should put this in? Is that you're
- 38:40Speaker 1: saying I put the Panthers in for now? Yeah? You would, dude.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Hornets nest theory has worked out.
- 38:48Speaker 1: We are going in with the Panthers. Man, We're gonna
- 38:51Speaker 1: come out of this with a ledger that looks like Panthers,
- 38:55Speaker 1: Washington Football team, and Giants, and we are going to
- 38:58Speaker 1: have the worst, most uncomfortable Sunday of our lives. By
- 39:03Speaker 1: the way, UH Producer Matt Mitchell, producer Extraordinaire looked up
- 39:07Speaker 1: the Cardinals odds to win the NFC West, the Super Bowl, UH,
- 39:14Speaker 1: and the NFC and Carr and Kyler's MVP ods. Kyler
- 39:18Speaker 1: is fourteen to one to the to win the MVP
- 39:20Speaker 1: right now, so UH, that's still still great value. The
- 39:25Speaker 1: odds to win the NFC West about their plus it
- 39:28Speaker 1: looks like three fifty. They are eleven to one to
- 39:32Speaker 1: win the NFC and to one to win um the
- 39:37Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So if you like the Cards to win
- 39:40Speaker 1: the NFC West, you might as well bet Kyler to
- 39:42Speaker 1: win MVP because if he wins, and if he they
- 39:44Speaker 1: win the NFC West, he will have won the m
- 39:46Speaker 1: v P, and um, you might as well bet him.
- 39:49Speaker 1: If you like him to win the NFC too, you
- 39:52Speaker 1: might as well bet Kyler to win MVP, because that's
- 39:54Speaker 1: what's gonna have to happen, uh, in order for them
- 39:56Speaker 1: to do that. Fourteen to one. That is an interesting
- 39:59Speaker 1: a little that is. And another thing I like this
- 40:04Speaker 1: week is if if you if you like doing these
- 40:06Speaker 1: weird bets with divisions, I really like san Fran coming forth.
- 40:11Speaker 1: So what you can do this week is you can wait,
- 40:14Speaker 1: let san Fran hopefully beat the Giants. They'll be two
- 40:17Speaker 1: on one, and then you can take them to coming
- 40:19Speaker 1: fourth in the division. You'll get a good value on that,
- 40:21Speaker 1: because it is pretty good value right now because they're
- 40:23Speaker 1: all bunched up there. But early in the year I
- 40:27Speaker 1: really thought San Fran it was gonna be the fourth
- 40:28Speaker 1: team of that division. We talked earlier year. I like
- 40:30Speaker 1: they're under for wins and everything like that, and from
- 40:33Speaker 1: what I've seen from the Rams, the Seahawks and the Cardinals.
- 40:37Speaker 1: These teams are all humming. The Cardinals. If you look
- 40:39Speaker 1: at their upcoming schedule, they could be six and uh
- 40:41Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. So I think that's a
- 40:43Speaker 1: good value what you're talking about right now. Taking Kyler
- 40:45Speaker 1: fourteen to one, fourteen to one the Draft Kings by
- 40:48Speaker 1: far along the side of anywhere Matt Mitchell looked fourteen
- 40:52Speaker 1: to one at DraftKings. Okay, so let's move on from
- 40:57Speaker 1: the Hornets nest. Let's go to Cowboys traveling across the
- 41:02Speaker 1: country coming off the greatest onside kick in history. They
- 41:06Speaker 1: are four and a half point dogs right now to
- 41:09Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. This feels like a blowout, yeah if
- 41:15Speaker 1: if it does. Um, it also gives me pause where
- 41:22Speaker 1: the Cowboys, like they showed they're they're gonna keep fighting.
- 41:25Speaker 1: They might be a good backdoor team. But like I
- 41:27Speaker 1: could see the Seahawks being up eleven or twelve at
- 41:31Speaker 1: the end of the game and the Cowboys scoring, scoring
- 41:34Speaker 1: with thirty seconds left to make it five. So it
- 41:38Speaker 1: makes me a little nervous. Um, I'm sure all the tickets,
- 41:41Speaker 1: all the money are coming on the Seahawks as well.
- 41:43Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big public about this week. Um
- 41:47Speaker 1: not yeah, I mean it's early. Look it's only Tuesday afternoon.
- 41:50Speaker 1: Um right now, the money's coming out of the Cowboys. Wow,
- 41:55Speaker 1: it's still early, like by look it's a four game
- 41:58Speaker 1: on Sunday. By Sunday off. I'm sure the money will
- 42:01Speaker 1: the tickets. I'm sorry, the tickets are coming in on Seattle.
- 42:05Speaker 1: The money is coming in and the Cowboys there you go, right,
- 42:08Speaker 1: So that that's that makes more sense. I made a mistake, Simon.
- 42:15Speaker 1: We're all human. Apparently you are because you went two
- 42:19Speaker 1: and three last week. Hey, oh, Nerd, that fucker. I
- 42:25Speaker 1: think your burner account keeps coming at me on Twitter?
- 42:28Speaker 1: Is that who that is? That's you keep re tweeting.
- 42:31Speaker 1: I love it, Like anytime they come at me. I
- 42:33Speaker 1: just like this stuff. It's like, fade me then I'm
- 42:35Speaker 1: so terrible, fade me, become a millionaire. Fading me if
- 42:37Speaker 1: I'm so bad. You are like looking into the maw
- 42:41Speaker 1: of gambling Twitter and saying, screw you. I don't care.
- 42:45Speaker 1: I've got a great life. I've already proven it. I
- 42:48Speaker 1: have not fun. No. I like when they come at
- 42:51Speaker 1: me because it's just like, yeah, I'm a phony fade mate,
- 42:54Speaker 1: go a gets me. Let me know how that works
- 42:55Speaker 1: out for you. So that's why I love it, and
- 42:59Speaker 1: I do too. I think it's right. I think it's
- 43:00Speaker 1: totally great. Meanwhile, I made a mistake. We're gonna move
- 43:03Speaker 1: on and we're gonna say, do we like the Seahawks
- 43:06Speaker 1: in this spot or do we just want to stay
- 43:08Speaker 1: away because we're worried about sort of the Cowboys ability
- 43:11Speaker 1: to backdoor this thing. Yeah, let's stay away. I'm a
- 43:13Speaker 1: little worried about the back door with this one. Well,
- 43:17Speaker 1: now we've got our favorite team in football, Like you know,
- 43:20Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are five and a half point favorites
- 43:23Speaker 1: at home. The numbers moved up from three and a half.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Not a surprise because you've got the majority of the
- 43:29Speaker 1: tickets coming in on the Cardinals right now against the
- 43:34Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, who are really looking like a train wreck.
- 43:37Speaker 1: But there is no But I actually don't know why
- 43:41Speaker 1: we wouldn't back the Cardinals here. Yeah, we're playing with
- 43:44Speaker 1: fire if we do it again. Um, I'm not totally
- 43:47Speaker 1: against it because I can easily see Kyler covering that
- 43:50Speaker 1: number against a really banged up lines defense and the
- 43:55Speaker 1: sharps are coming in on this number, so I think
- 43:57Speaker 1: it opens six and a half seven. Now it's down
- 43:59Speaker 1: to five and a half, even though a lot of
- 44:00Speaker 1: the bets are own Cardinals, and I think they're doing
- 44:03Speaker 1: they're they're banking on what I would talk about earlier
- 44:05Speaker 1: with the owen two oh and two, like oh and
- 44:07Speaker 1: two against the spread, owing two straight up. The lines
- 44:10Speaker 1: are due here to cover a number, But I still
- 44:13Speaker 1: think Vegas is overvaluing the lines as if they're still healthy.
- 44:16Speaker 1: And we have a Cardinals team who is healthy, So
- 44:19Speaker 1: I do think we're getting the best of the number.
- 44:20Speaker 1: You know, I'd be cool with taking the Cardinals. I
- 44:23Speaker 1: think I want to, Like, I agree with you. We're
- 44:25Speaker 1: playing with fire. We keep backing the Cardinals. We love
- 44:27Speaker 1: this team, but I don't know that Vegas is giving
- 44:31Speaker 1: them any credit at all at this point. Just look
- 44:33Speaker 1: at the look at some of the Kyler Murray numbers,
- 44:35Speaker 1: like fourteen to one to be m v P. He
- 44:38Speaker 1: is like completely on the runway to being m v P.
- 44:41Speaker 1: And this defense is really good. Yeah, and he's a
- 44:45Speaker 1: will breaker, like they'll have third down long third intents
- 44:48Speaker 1: and he breaks defense as will as by scrambling or
- 44:51Speaker 1: just hitting Hopkins on a little in and out. So
- 44:55Speaker 1: I do I love the Cardinals. I mean, I know
- 44:57Speaker 1: maybe I'm overlooking things here the lines, but like I
- 45:00Speaker 1: had this number at seven, So I do think we're
- 45:02Speaker 1: getting good value on on the Cardinals. And honestly it
- 45:04Speaker 1: might get lower before game time. Yeah, if the Sharps
- 45:07Speaker 1: keep hitting this number, because I think they really think
- 45:09Speaker 1: they have a read here, because they're they're thinking themselves, well,
- 45:12Speaker 1: this line was three just a couple of weeks ago.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Now it's only the six five and a half to go.
- 45:16Speaker 1: I don't know if there's showing that much of a Justine.
- 45:18Speaker 1: I don't think they're realizing how banged up the lines
- 45:20Speaker 1: defense really is. All right, Meanwhile, we are getting down
- 45:23Speaker 1: to like the quick here. We don't have that many
- 45:26Speaker 1: games left. We've got three games left. And right now,
- 45:31Speaker 1: right now are Slate Giants, Uh what are they? Plus
- 45:36Speaker 1: five and a half at home against a hobble Niners
- 45:39Speaker 1: team four and a half Washington minus plus seven and
- 45:44Speaker 1: a half um going on the road against an overvalued
- 45:48Speaker 1: Browns team. The Panthers without Christian McCaffrey is a touchdown
- 45:55Speaker 1: going across the country. To play the Chargers. Those are
- 46:00Speaker 1: three games so far that we like and we're agreeing on. Oh,
- 46:03Speaker 1: we also like the Pats minus five and a half
- 46:05Speaker 1: against the Raiders, and what's that the Bears three and
- 46:10Speaker 1: a half? We also like the Bears. I had a
- 46:13Speaker 1: question mark with the Bears because like, the Bears like
- 46:15Speaker 1: didn't make it into our top four in the same
- 46:17Speaker 1: way those other did. And we love the Cars at
- 46:19Speaker 1: minus five and a half. So like, those are five
- 46:21Speaker 1: games that we love. So let's see if either the
- 46:24Speaker 1: Bears we can convince ourselves of the Bears coming out
- 46:27Speaker 1: of this or Buck said minus what is that six
- 46:32Speaker 1: on the road against the Broncos getting all the money? Um,
- 46:37Speaker 1: the Packers thirteen and a half? Woa, no, no, uh?
- 46:43Speaker 1: The Saints minus three against the Packers at home, that's
- 46:49Speaker 1: on that's on Sunday night. Or the Ravens minus three
- 46:53Speaker 1: against the Chiefs on Monday night. Let's do ourselves a
- 46:56Speaker 1: favor and just not that that one, Like, let's just
- 46:57Speaker 1: skip that. Yeah, that's that's crazy, that green baby moan.
- 47:02Speaker 1: Because I was four and a half. I got on Sunday,
- 47:04Speaker 1: so I got Green Bay four and a half against
- 47:06Speaker 1: the Saints and I think we're starting to hit a
- 47:10Speaker 1: hit a point here where not that we're overvaluing Aaron Rodgers,
- 47:15Speaker 1: but he might have gone against two defenses that are
- 47:18Speaker 1: just hurt, banged up and young for the first two
- 47:21Speaker 1: weeks where he's looked incredible, and he might not have
- 47:24Speaker 1: Davante Adams this upcoming week. So Drew Brees might be
- 47:28Speaker 1: cooked and it might be time for Winston to step in,
- 47:32Speaker 1: and they need to go with a different look because
- 47:34Speaker 1: they can't win games with Drew Brees isn't throwing it
- 47:36Speaker 1: over ten to fifteen yards. He needs to go downfield.
- 47:39Speaker 1: He can't just chip away these different teams. So I'll
- 47:44Speaker 1: stay away from that one. You've lost the value on
- 47:47Speaker 1: Green Bay at this point, and with the Broncos and
- 47:52Speaker 1: Drift School as they're starting quarterback, it's making me nervous.
- 47:55Speaker 1: But I told you early in the year, whatever the
- 47:56Speaker 1: spread number is with the Broncos in September at home,
- 48:00Speaker 1: I take it. So it's already one to known this year.
- 48:02Speaker 1: Who knows how they covered against the Titans, but they did.
- 48:04Speaker 1: They covered two and a half, So people can people
- 48:08Speaker 1: come in, they can really lay in and bed on Tampa.
- 48:11Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to just play it smart, played simple,
- 48:14Speaker 1: and just go with the Broncos plus six. I'm watching
- 48:17Speaker 1: our live odds page right now at Action network dot com.
- 48:19Speaker 1: You can download the Action Network app. The packers just
- 48:23Speaker 1: got hit. Um, that number just moved. So, uh, you're right,
- 48:30Speaker 1: like people are coming in on Aaron Rodgers fast and furious.
- 48:34Speaker 1: So then Simon again remindered everybody used the phrase that pays.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Simon says, let's bounce back rate and review the podcast
- 48:44Speaker 1: and we will randomly choose the best one for a
- 48:47Speaker 1: free Action Network coodie. We will announce last week's winner
- 48:51Speaker 1: at the end of the podcast. Um, before we get
- 48:54Speaker 1: to that, I feel like I got five games I'm
- 49:00Speaker 1: looking at right now, most of which make me stick
- 49:03Speaker 1: to my stomach. And we're getting ugly this week, but
- 49:08Speaker 1: I think is gonna win. The public had their week
- 49:10Speaker 1: last week. All these money lines hit. Uh, these guys
- 49:15Speaker 1: that do these ten dollar parlays when they just take
- 49:17Speaker 1: every favorite money line, they're cashing their tickets for whatever
- 49:20Speaker 1: it is ten grain this week because every favorite just
- 49:23Speaker 1: one straight up. I think it's a good week to
- 49:25Speaker 1: be with us and being on the Vegas side back
- 49:28Speaker 1: in the Dogs. So I like our positions on a
- 49:30Speaker 1: lot of these games. Alright, So I'm gonna say it.
- 49:34Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it out loud again. We got the
- 49:36Speaker 1: Giants and Danny dimes about plus four and a half
- 49:41Speaker 1: against visiting Hobble Niners. We got the Washington football team
- 49:48Speaker 1: plus I'm sorry. We got the Pats minus five and
- 49:51Speaker 1: a half so far against the visiting Las Vegas Raiders,
- 49:56Speaker 1: the Washington football team plus seven, maybe seven and a
- 50:00Speaker 1: half if he gets there. Against the Panthers plus seven,
- 50:06Speaker 1: good god, are you kidding me? The Christian McCaffrey less
- 50:11Speaker 1: Panthers plus seven, and then the Cards minus five and
- 50:15Speaker 1: a half. How much you want to bet we go
- 50:17Speaker 1: three and two in the games we lose are the
- 50:19Speaker 1: Paths and the Cards. We might end up switch on
- 50:23Speaker 1: the Panthers. We'll see, because I do love I do
- 50:25Speaker 1: love our pick with the Bears. We're gonna keep waiting
- 50:27Speaker 1: to see if can get better value on that number,
- 50:29Speaker 1: but I do love the Bears on the spot. Well, listen,
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- 51:19Speaker 1: weeks to turn so fucking bitter man man. All right,
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- 53:09Speaker 1: the picks in real time as we make them on
- 53:12Speaker 1: Sunday mornings. But until we get to that, Until we
- 53:16Speaker 1: get to that, a reminder, our picks Giants plus four
- 53:19Speaker 1: and a half against the Niners, Pats minus five and
- 53:22Speaker 1: a half with the Raiders visiting Washington, seven and a
- 53:24Speaker 1: half on the road against the Brownies Panthers plus seven
- 53:28Speaker 1: maybe going against the Chargers cards minus five and a half.
- 53:33Speaker 1: They're playing the lines until next time. This has been
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