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PGA DFS | Arnold Palmer Invitational | March 5, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:48
  Speaker 1: What's up everyone. Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: We're back for the PGA Show. We've got a signature
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: event this week, Arnold Palmer Invitational. Got my guy Hoopster
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: here with me as always breaking all things down. We're
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: going to talk through roster construction positions. We'll go through
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: sort of the ranges, I should say, of all the golfers.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: It is a smaller field, but there is a cut.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: These player hosted events do have a cut, so it's
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: the top fifty and ties and then anybody within ten
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  Speaker 1: strokes of the leader. We're gonna talk the weather a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more later on and as of now, we
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: talked to our guy Degenerate at seventy five. I know
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  Speaker 1: it was asked about in the chat. He was a
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: little bit under the weather last week, but he posted
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: out last night and talking to him now, it feels
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: like he's pretty good. He's gonna be good to go
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: for tonight, so hopefully that holds true. You guys can
• 1:27
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• 1:45
  Speaker 1: bring you in, man, We're back. What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, solid event this week. I mean, you know, it's
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: kind of the best that we're going to get outside
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  Speaker 2: of majors. These what's the term these player later the
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: signatory events invitations? Is that what they're calling them? Signature invitationals?
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  Speaker 1: You got it?
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  Speaker 2: Well with the there's a which what's the work wording
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  Speaker 2: for the ones that have the cut? I guess is
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  Speaker 2: what I'm looking for, isn't there are they whatever? So
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  Speaker 2: it's just the ones they hosted, player hosted.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I said, is like Riviera with Tiger at
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  Speaker 1: Genesis and then this one and the one more. But
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  Speaker 1: that that's the main thing, just the player hosted ones
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  Speaker 1: that have the smaller cut.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's kind of the best we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get outside of the majors in terms of you know,
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  Speaker 2: what we have to play for. I mean, we get
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  Speaker 2: all the best players in the world for the most
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  Speaker 2: part that you know are eligible to play. You do
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  Speaker 2: get a little bit of a cut at these events.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen it kind of extreme where everyone just assumes
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  Speaker 2: that it's going to be six or six and you
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  Speaker 2: know the six or six times up being pretty low.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen it where the six and six is still
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  Speaker 2: pretty popular. But you get a little bit of something,
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  Speaker 2: so we get a cut. We get a nice field
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  Speaker 2: with the you know, the the top golfers, you know
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  Speaker 2: the way it's set up. Now, you know, any non
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  Speaker 2: signature event you can pretty much count on it being
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  Speaker 2: a pretty weak field. So excited for this one. And
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  Speaker 2: I like this course because you know, last week everyone
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  Speaker 2: thought we're gonna get the difficult course. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: see man without weather or like super long rough these
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: guys can just destroy any course. And that's kind of
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: what happened last week. It was soft, not very long,
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  Speaker 2: and they took full advantage of it. This course, though,
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  Speaker 2: is difficult. It's fun. There's a lot of water, long,
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of cut off some of these dog legs.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is when I really like to you know,
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  Speaker 2: event that I like to watch because you know, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good scenery on the course and then it
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  Speaker 2: is challenging, like if you make a bad shot, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna pay the price for it. The only downside I
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: would say is the pricing continues just to be awful
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  Speaker 2: like and the fact that it's just so easy to
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: play these guys at the top. The ownership is through
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  Speaker 2: the roof, and it's like, man, do you really want
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  Speaker 2: to consider not playing Scottie and Rory? Probably both, I
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: don't know. I haven't looked deep, but somewhere around fifty percent.
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  Speaker 2: Most likely. We'll see when it all shakes out, but
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  Speaker 2: I wish the price would be able bit stronger. That's
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  Speaker 2: my only complaint this week, which is good because I
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  Speaker 2: usually complained about a lot of shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick says, I'm busy, like because I just said
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  Speaker 1: this stuff all on the Mail Show, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be too repetitive. But that was one of
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: the key factors that you just brought up that was
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: brutal in the sense of where I don't know your
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: take Goop, but everybody else says, oh, but we all
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: have the same puzzle pieces to play with. It's true,
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't make it good, That's what I said, because
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  Speaker 1: if it does end up being Scotty and Rory or
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  Speaker 1: one of the two or both that you need. Then
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: so many lineups are set up that way, it does
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: become a bit more of a crapshoot for who got
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  Speaker 1: the other pieces right with it versus you know, if
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  Speaker 1: it was twelve eight Scottie and eleven to two Rory
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  Speaker 1: and then a bit of a drop off and you
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  Speaker 1: have to start to make those decisions and can't really
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  Speaker 1: play them that way, then it becomes a little bit better.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll work with what we got. We all know
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  Speaker 1: Harris English is the worst play on the slate, so
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: if anybody's playing Harris English, I would get him out
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  Speaker 1: of your lineups for my guy Ricardo. And then what
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  Speaker 1: else do we got here? You know trash tournament. No
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  Speaker 1: EVR saw that one. Shout out the Beatle Bank gets
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  Speaker 1: to watch it live. Yeah, we usually go on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: We did have to switch it up just this week,
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: but we appreciate everybody for sticking with us. And then
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: Andrew talked about this already, said where's Djen? He should
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: be back tonight in his normal time slot for the
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: emergency stream. Good to go Masters, Yes, just around the
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  Speaker 1: corner of the fifth major next week the player. So
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  Speaker 1: this is back to back really good weeks that we're
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: gonna have one with a smaller field like this week
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  Speaker 1: next week with the bigger But wop, did you look
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  Speaker 1: at the weather? This seems to be where everybody wants
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  Speaker 1: to start, and certainly something to talk about that I
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: talked about earlier today too, But did you have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to look at it? Anything you see there with
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  Speaker 1: it yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull it up and get like the up
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  Speaker 2: to date stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Though just while you're pulling it up there, I will
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  Speaker 1: say the one takeaway is even from just this morning,
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  Speaker 1: like six hours ago, it's it's a little bit different
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  Speaker 1: than it was what I was looking at. The main
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  Speaker 1: thing is the talk is simple. Friday's kind of wide open,
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  Speaker 1: all the same on Thursday, though it's a little colder
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. By the way, the tea times do separate.
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  Speaker 1: They have forty guys going off early, thirty two going
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  Speaker 1: off later, and it's seven forty in the morning or
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  Speaker 1: something versus one fifty. There's late tea times for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a smaller group, but still thirty two golfers
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  Speaker 1: after eleven o'clock on the current weather you'll see the
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  Speaker 1: wind is pretty steady across the board fifteen sixteen miles
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  Speaker 1: per hour, but the tempts are lower in the morning
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  Speaker 1: by ten to fifteen degrees depending on when your guys
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  Speaker 1: are starting. And then also the gusts are up over
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  Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Around one o'clock they do settle down.
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  Speaker 1: So it's really you know, how much do you want
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  Speaker 1: your guys to play in that? But there's also some
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  Speaker 1: really good names on both sides of the waves. So
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  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on the weather?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? See, for me, it's just look at this is
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: gonna be one of those situations where I'm not gonna
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: fully avoid guys in the Thursday am wave. But like,
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  Speaker 2: if you're making decisions and you're this guy versus that guy,
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  Speaker 2: and one guy's going Thursday afternoon, I would probably lean
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  Speaker 2: that that direction. Now, last week, you know, we saw
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  Speaker 2: it a lot in the and the winter ended up
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  Speaker 2: coming from the tougher draw right in the initial high spent.
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  Speaker 1: I think it still happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you don't want to, like unless we
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  Speaker 2: see a stay advantage where it's like, okay, Thursday morning,
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  Speaker 2: we're looking at five mile an hour winds, and then
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: in the afternoon it's going to twenty. Like if you
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  Speaker 2: see something like that, then that's I've gone all in.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you have as well. These moderate in
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  Speaker 2: between situations, which I think we have here is you know,
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: a tiebreaker scenario if you're deciding that this guy, that guy,
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  Speaker 2: this one, this guy's AM, this guy's PM, while I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna just side with the PM. So down the list
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  Speaker 2: of reasons why I would or wouldn't play a guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, your priority list has a bit different. Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously sometimes the case is made that it gets
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: a lot easier. I know, last week a ton of
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  Speaker 1: the made cuts came from the AMPM like it was
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  Speaker 1: a you know, it was a forty so I forget
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  Speaker 1: it was maybe forty eight of the sixty something that
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  Speaker 1: made the cuts, A huge number of that. So I
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: definitely think, you know, you can go that way and
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: then give yourself opportunities there. But in this case, this
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: scenario this week, there is a bit of a trickiness
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  Speaker 1: to it because when you look at the board and
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  Speaker 1: I just had it up here, I brought it away.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, if you're doing that, it's pretty evenly dispersed Scottie, Ludvig, Morikawa,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Matsiama Fleetwood all in the morning, in the afternoon
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  Speaker 1: you have and this is Thursday, Rory, Xander, Can't Ley,
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  Speaker 1: JT Feenw and Burns. That's nine k and above. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty even split for who is where. But
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: it's really hard to sit there and say that Scotty, Scheffler, Morikawa, Ludvig,
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  Speaker 1: guys like that they can easily come through in the
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  Speaker 1: weather regardless all these other factors and that. So I
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: think that's something to keep in mind when you're building
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  Speaker 1: it out. It's way more likely to be down with
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  Speaker 1: the scrubs below, Like if you look, that's where I
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: could see people sway the ownership a bit more. I
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  Speaker 1: don't see any overreactions up top. I think things could
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: lean a little bit closer, like originally it had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Scotty for forty one and Rory for twenty seven or something.
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  Speaker 1: I can see those tightening up. I can see Xander
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  Speaker 1: getting a little bit of late love, people seeing that
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: maybe he's okay, it's his first event back, but it
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  Speaker 1: is ten to one to take a shot. I could
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  Speaker 1: see some of that a little bit, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's gonna overreact any thoughts on ownership top
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  Speaker 1: it comes to.
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  Speaker 2: This, Yeah, I mean, and again this is you can
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: have the conversation about what weather, for sure, but it's like,
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: this was the scenario this past week where yeah, a
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: lot of those guys had great conditions Thursday through Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: and they're at the top of the leader board and
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: they're tee and off late on Sunday when the weather
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: kind of gets a little bit worse. So it's like
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: it's a four round thing still. Regardless, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: a lot higher percentage of the guys made the cut,
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: but like where they finished at the end of the
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: tournament was a little bit different and obviously the most
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  Speaker 2: important part when trying to build lineups that get to
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: the top in terms of the ownership, again, like the
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: field's great, but the pricing sucks. Like twelve K for
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Scotty should be thirteen five. If he's thirteen to five,
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  Speaker 2: what sort of ownership do you think we have him
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  Speaker 2: at twenty five to thirty maybe twenty eight percent if
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  Speaker 2: he's thirteen to five, right, maybe less.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah'd be way tougher at that point, for sure.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: That's what you want Rory should be twelve five. I'd
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  Speaker 2: say one thousand dollars less than Scotty twelve five, and
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: then you're looking at maybe twenty to twenty five percent
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  Speaker 2: on Rory. The fact that it's so easy, like you
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: start clicking the names in there, just so so easy,
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: and then you have legit guys in the six K range.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: You put Scotty in, You're sitting at seventy six hundred,
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: so you can play Scotty and not even need to
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: dip into the seven K range, or not even need
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: to dip into the six K range. Now you plug
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: in Scotty and Rory, which this question always comes up
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: when there's two clear studs at the Toddle field. Can
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: you play these guys together? How popular is it going
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: to be? It's gonna be popular this week because it's
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: easy and a very popular build. You and I already
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: talked about. It is going to be Scotty Rory, two
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  Speaker 2: six K guys, two seven K guys. You just kind
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: of go that direction very so if you put Scotty
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  Speaker 2: and Rory in and you plug in a random sixty
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  Speaker 2: three I just clicked on Andrew Novak, you're right back
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  Speaker 2: to seven thousand per spot, So it's going to be
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: a very common build. They're going to be very popular
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  Speaker 2: for that reason and for the one unfortunate part about
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  Speaker 2: the slate and man, the course sets up perfect for
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: those guys, just absolutely perfect. Rory's been phenomenal here, Scotty
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  Speaker 2: has been phenomenal here. Tough challenge, so makes it really
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: hard to make the case to fade those guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just so much win equity. You know, Scotty is what
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  Speaker 2: three to one to win, Rory is right around seven
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  Speaker 2: to one, and then it falls off quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: And you know it would be nice if we had
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Xander at one hundred percent. That's a different conversation because
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of first tournament back going to be
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  Speaker 2: low owned, I mean for sure, but man like coming
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  Speaker 2: off the injury, does he have a chance to keep
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  Speaker 2: up with Scotty and Rory? Tough to make that case.
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  Speaker 2: So you're gonna see a ton of ownership on those guys.
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  Speaker 2: I think, again, the same thing we said a couple
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I think remains true here. I know
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  Speaker 2: a lot of projection sites have it as a gap
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  Speaker 2: in terms of ownership between Scotty and Rory I think
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: it just ends up being close, whether it's like forty
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  Speaker 2: five percent or something on each would be would be
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  Speaker 2: my guest somewhere in that range.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Especially if people do lean on this weather angle a
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  Speaker 1: little bit as it gets closer to Locke and you
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: see Rory and Xander even would pick up a little
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: bit of steam from Scotty, so it would just even
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: out Scotty and Rory a little bit more. So I
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: think that's definitely a possibility. I'll also add to I
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: think in something like twenty max this week, I might
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: just lock those two. And it's not you don't have
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: to do this as my strep. I'm just saying like
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: where I'm just gambled, like that's just lottery to me.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm playing three dollars twenty max with sixty sixty
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  Speaker 1: bucks and something, I'm just gonna do it and put
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: it that way and see what happens versus you know,
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: my portfolio all do different things. And maybe if I
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: do have some pm AM lineups that doesn't have Scotty,
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: or maybe I will make a small set of pm
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  Speaker 1: ams that include Scotty as my one from the other side,
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: and that's a way to get different that way and
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  Speaker 1: then the rest of my spots. But if I'm doing
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: the Scotty Rory lineups, I'm just turning off all the
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the guys that have any you know subject
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  Speaker 1: like any of the ownership down below that's even close
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  Speaker 1: where it looks like it could be something. I just
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: don't want to back myself into a corner of the
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: same lineups. It will be a little bit more of
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: a sort of roulette style, but it would just be
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: the way to do it once you get past those two,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: because those two clearly pop off the page with history
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: form who they are best thing, and then pricing is
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: just set up that way to your point where you know, no, no,
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: no point in bitching about it any longer for either of us.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: But we both agree that it's bad. And that's the
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: reasons bad, because even if you put them both in,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: you're just gambling on the other four spots against everybody
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: else in the same doing the same thing.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you couldn't agree anymore. I mean,
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: it is what it is. It's unfortunate, but you know,
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: there's there's nothing you can do, and you're going to
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: look for little ways to maybe get different and and
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: you know, try to identify the very very common builds
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: and try to avoid those sort of roster construction things.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's all you can do with this. But
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: you know, again, we get a full field. Don't want
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: to bitch about everything. We get at the strong field
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  Speaker 2: this week with a cut at a challenging fun course,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm not going to complain. Pricing is always going
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: to be soft. The reasons pricing soft is very simple.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: They want all star teams. They want people novices to
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: go in there and start clicking names and say, man,
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: how can this lineup lose? And then they're going to
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: build another team and start clicking names. They're gonna say,
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: how can this lineup lose? This is an all star team?
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  Speaker 2: And then it continues. So it's easier to fill up contests.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: The software, the pricing is and that is why they
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: do it in all sports really all sports very rare.
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  Speaker 2: When we look at it a slate and say, man, like,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: the pricing is challenging this week, it's very very rare
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: and far far and few between. But you know it's
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: what we have to deal with.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Excellent point there, and it's a reason to get better
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: at what you're doing. And work on that part of it.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of the key one thing,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: and I'll let you maybe bring it up in the background.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: But one thing I know people aren't bitching and complaining about,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: and that is the partnership that we made with Sabersim.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: These shows, of course, are brought to you and presented
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: by our partner, Sabersim, So hoop, if you want to
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: bring it up, we can sort of do a run
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: on what maybe look like the starter version looks like.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna pull that up. While you're just bringing
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: that up, I'm gonna quickly go through here real fast,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: just so people know while you're working it out, just
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: two this one. If you don't know. It was in
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: the intro. We did partner officially with saber Sim. So
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: now all of our members that have optimizer plans, if
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: you already had one through us with ship Deviser, you're
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: now grandfathered in to saber Sim. So you will get
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: this plan in front of you that says aaamizer core
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: that is set up so that you can still do
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: late swap for the late swap sports not golf obviously,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: but you can build up to one hundred and fifty lineups.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: You can actually build two fifty in your pool and
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: then take up to one fifty at one time, so
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: you can still pull from a pool of two hundred
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: and fifty lineups. The difference is with that it's all
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: of ship at Nation, projections and ownership for all eight sports,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: all the other content included. If you bump up to
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: the Starter pack right now for one twenty nine a month.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: This is just a note. This is definitely a key thing.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: It's a promo. It basically is the exact same thing
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: as what you're finding over on Saber. They have a
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars a month planned This is with our
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: content included, but you get all of our content, plus
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: you get up to five hundred lineups, the additional set
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: of projections and ownership. So some people want to blend them.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Some people want to use theirs for NBA and ours
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: for PGA, and the other side it's however you want
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: to use it. It's teach their own. And then you
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: also get a review feature called Contest Flashback. And then
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: we do have the Ultimate package as well, where you
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: get your first thirty days for two ninety seven. I
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: think there was just a misconception a little bit on this,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: so I'll clarify it quickly. But that's not for everybody.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: If you want contest SIMS, we want it to have
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: that version available. That's the point of saying we have
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: everything that you need. If you want to take a
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: chance on and move on that and take your shots
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: and learn it, then do it. But it's not an
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: easy button and you got to put in the work,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: and so that's key to remember. But just looking at
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: our pricing, now, this is the whole idea since day one,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: is to make it all encompassing. As my friend here
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Hoopster likes to say ninety nine dollars or one twenty
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: nine for the starter, whichever you prefer to go, but
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: as low as ninety nine to get Saber SIM included
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: and our core package. The competitors charge one fifty one,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: ninety four, two sixty eight or two ninety nine a month.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who they are. We're not here to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: call people out. We're calling out the facts, the numbers.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: The breakdown is contest SIMS is such a small portion
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: of the entire industry. It's five percent or less of
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the entire industry. Talking to other people that own these
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: sites and at broadcast these facts and put these numbers
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: out there. I can tell you that right now, the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: key is having an optimizer that you're comfortable with, relateable,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you can use it. It covers all the angles. That's
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: what saber sim does and that's what we're looking to provide.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: So there's no other better deal. If you're already a member,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you can you can upgrade whatever you want to do.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: If you're not a member, you could literally cancel any
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: site you're at and come just get ship a Nation
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: with Sabersim and you'll be all set moving forward.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: But well, the other thing I did want to touch
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: on real quick, because I know we are really promoting
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: the one twenty nine is the best value where you
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: get all the Sabersim information as well. And I want
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: to be very clear. I mean we're honest people. I
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: mean we're very honest enough front about everything. From a
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: business standpoint, Ship a Nation doesn't make any additional money
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: between the ninety nine and the one twenty nine. We're
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: making the same amount of money. But we just feel
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: very strongly that the one twenty nine upgrades your plan,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: like you're getting all of Sabersim's information. You're getting all
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: of their projections, all of their ownership, all the other
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: sports they offer that we don't have content for to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: another data point for you to use. And it's a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: very good product, as you see everyone in the chats
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: loving and the YouTube chat in our discord love it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I definitely want to give a shout out to their team,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: their customer support team, because they're in our discord and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: those are some of the hardest working guys in this industry.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's new for a lot of our people,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and I know we have some older people that struggle
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: with change and stuff. But my god, are they in
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: there answering. It's not just like little two word answers.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: They're in depth helping people out with paragraph responses to
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: make sure great.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Patient people, very very patient people that I'm learning a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: thing or two from them because it's a lot the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: changes are always difficult for some. But just to answer
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Deacon's question, Tembo, I like that name, man, get us
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: off in there. But if your grandfathered into the core package,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you can keep that as is right, you see it
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: right in front of you. You have still every to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: put it clear. We never hide anything. We don't sugar,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: go to the tea and ship. It stands for transparency.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: With shypdomizer, you only had five major sports. You didn't
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: have college football, you didn't have NHL, and there was
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: one more that was missing, and then showdown modes and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: certain stuff that you did have. Now you have all
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of that one hundred and fifty lineups still with sabersim
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: everything is there, including the support all this, so you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: have more than you ever had with an upgrade and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the credibility factor and everything sabers put in over the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: years focusing just on DFS and this optimizer and their additions,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: so you get all that. If you want an upgrade,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you do go up from there. But I think that's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: where some of the sort of you know, back and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: forth has been on when people are asking about it,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: so I like to be clear on that too. The
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: one twenty nine is essentially or if you take it
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: at eleven ninety nine for the annual with the starter
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: package is basically like getting our stuff for free. It's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like a new founding family almost of the best deal
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that we've ever had on the new stuff. That price
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: will go up to hoops point like we said that's
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the introductory price on that one, and we're clear with
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it from day one, so it's not a surprise later.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: But if you're locking that in, you're essentially getting ship
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: at Nation for less than a dollar a day twenty
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: nine bucks a month or something is what it works out.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Because nine ninety seven with them, twenty nine for us.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: That's all inclusive. You now have alternatives, you have more lineups,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you have contest flashback, and you can do more with it,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and that's the way to go. You still have again,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: you need for the ship it the Stone, you need
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the discord, all these factors being able to put it
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: all together. That's the support and the add ons, the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: slate plants, all that stuff are included. But that's what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: most people are doing. For me, for golf, the Stone
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is on one screen, Sabersim is on the other. Then
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'm building my playerpool from there, and then I'm using
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Saber to do that. DJN talked about it in our
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: discord this week. I thought it was a great example.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: You know, someone said, Saber gave me all this. Saber
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: had ship It Nations, projections and ownership for showdown in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: there that you used and you. Then Saber did the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: work with those projections and ownership. So that's the key
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: component to remember. That's how it's done. And Dave, if
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you want to sign up, you just go to the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: website ship it Nation dot com and go to the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: second package. It says one twenty nine a month. It
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: already has the ten dollars coupon built in from one
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: thirty nine, and you're good to go.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just you know, the Sabersim part
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: partnership really you know, not finalizes our product, but gets
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: us to the point where it's like, man, we have
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: everything you need to give yourself a good chance to
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: build quality lineups. Yeah, in the DFS streets at the
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: most affordable rate in the industry, no one is offering
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: what we're offering at a cheaper rate. And that has
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: been the plan since day one, and we'd never have
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: ever wavered from it, and we won't move them forward.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And just a Derek's point, because this is a good
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: question as well. There's no magic button, there's no easy button.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: We don't sugarcoat this. Nobody out there can promise to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: make you money. We made a promise to save people
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: money and we've stuck by it since day one. This
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: allows you if you're at cite A with one hundred
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and fifty a month with Saber, and you're with US
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: paying sixty or seventy, why wouldn't you cancel the one
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: fifty and just move to one twenty nine. You save
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: all that money, and you were already giving us seven.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That's making you money that way. But what an any
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: optimizer does, particularly we're in love with Saber sim That's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: why we've got the setup in the partnership is it
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: builds the best versions of what you you've told the optimizer
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you're looking for. If you lock Scotty and Rory and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: then say I want competitive lineups for a tournament with
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand to one hundred thousand people, which Hoop's gonna
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: show off, I think right now in the top right
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: corner of what Hoop has on the screen, it says
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: golf main ten K to fifty K. When you sort
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: your stuff in there by Saber score, for example, it
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: will recognize that you are playing in a field with
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: ten thousand to fifty thousand other entries and say, listen up.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: You were trying to build lineups that were pure chalk
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and would have no chance on a daily basis of
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: competing in a tournament this large the field size. So
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: we've taken all of your inputs and your projections, your ownership,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: your player pool. You've used the stone to create and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: checked in the discord and ask questions and built it
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and it says here's better versions of what you were
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: looking for, and you can use it to virtual handbuild too.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: You can throw in twenty lineups, scroll through and pick
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the one that you like for single entry, knowing some
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: of those factors and seeing in front of you. So
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go through it all as we do it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this comes now in all of our plans
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: with optimizers, So ninety nine or one twenty nine a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: month if you just need an optimizer, if you want
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the contest sims, you can hop up and pay more
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: for that. We've got a support system built in there.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: But just noting the main component is going to be
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the ninety nine or the one twenty nine a month. Yeah,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and it includes Sam and.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: The other final point. Then we'll get into talking through
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the lineups and what we have here in terms of
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: our build. But the only sports we offer independently a
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: PGA and NFL. So if you're on our all Access,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you get NASCAR, which some people are charging four to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars for. You get MMA, which people are
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: charging big money for, and we have the best MMA
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: team by far. You obviously get PGA in the all Access,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: which five six hundred dollars for basically projections only. It's like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: it's insanity, Like don't like, seriously, don't pay those prices
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: come to us. You save yourself a shit ton of
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: money and you build a play in more DFS content
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: us or keep more money in your pocket. It's it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: very simple at this point, just don't pay all that
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: extra money for these Uh you know what people call
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: niche sports, it's they're they're they're robbing you, So don't
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: do it anymore. A point.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I agree. We gotta check it out there.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: We'll go through. So I built five hundred lineups.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: As you can see, we have Saber, SIMS, projections and
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: ownership up. If you are somebody with at least the
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: starter pack, you can go right here and flip it
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: over to ship it. Uh, projections come down here, ship
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: it Ownership which has just been updated. But we're gonna
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: use saber for the sake of today's show. We already
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: ran the teams with saber. We're gonna stick with it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So this is built five hundred. It's showing us twenty Obviously,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the highlighted names are the names in white are guys
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that we got exposure to, the great out names we
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: didn't get any exposure to. So what I like doing
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: when I first built them, Well, we'll look at this this,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: this twenty lineup build first, and then we'll go to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: one fifty, just seeing what we get here, right, and
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: we're getting eighty percent Scott. This is basically the dry
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: run right here.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: This is Brian's asking, So I'm glad you brought up
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: because I was just clarifying that this is what Hoop
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: is doing right now. So he's looking first to see
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: who is popular. Gives you ideas of what roster construction
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: looks like for the week and the game that we play.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Not the players that we play, but what's everybody doing
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: when they just run an optimizer and throw their lineup
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: sin versus. That's you know, that is what the majority
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: are doing. So we're checking it out. This is actually
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: ultimate that we have access to Andrew, but it doesn't
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: we're working backwards because we're not using contest sims right now.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So it's just all we're showing you is what Starter
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: would be the Only real difference with your with a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: core plan is you're you're in the top left corner
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: where Hoop has five hundred, would be two fifty for you.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: You'd be able to pull one fifty from the two
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: fifty pool. And then also you would have ship it
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Nation projections and ownership, which I suggest using. But who
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: would already run it because it just came up if
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you saw in the chat we didn't have the latest
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: ship it Nation stuff live, so we're just gonna stick
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: with what we ran. But you would flip it to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: ship it Nation for ownership for projections on Starter, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you'd be good to go. Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And then another thing, you can average amount. You know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: can can go in and say I just want to
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: average of both, which is very nice because you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: not everyone's going to be one hundred percent accurate. Ever,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: so this kind of balances out a little bit. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: we have we have saber in and you know this
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: is twenty lineup, so you see we're geting eighty percent Scottie,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: we're getting forty five, so they really like Joe Heismith's
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I mean very high obviously number he is sixty two
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: hundred fifty two projection. You're obviously can get a lot
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: of him. Ludvig thirty five percent, Rory thirty percent. Pretty
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: much what I kind of expect. And you start looking
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: at some of these teams, and this is probably going
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: to be a Starz and Scrub week if you just
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: go in and build and don't change much round. Look,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you got Scotty Ludvig and then four guys seventy six
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: hundred and blow Scotty Rory. Obviously what I talked about
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: in the opening, Scotty Rory two six K, two seven
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: K just gonna get a lot of that, and there's
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: just no way around it. Scotty Ludvig and Shane Lowry's
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: in here, and then three guys seventy four hundred and
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: blow Scotty.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: What's our high Smith exposure when you sorted it? I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: missed it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, forty five, so high Smith coming in a big number.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I mean it is a very i'd say aggressive projection
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: on him. If we're sorting by projections, he is fifty nine,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: so he is projecting, you know, right around guys much
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: more expensive than him. So we're just naturally gonna get
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a lot. Although I did see a great out name
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that you're gonna be excited about, Harris English, great out.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: We got zero in our twenty. But I'm gonna switch
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: this over to the one to fifty so we can
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: get like a better idea of what we're really getting
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: in these lineups. And not everyone plays one to fifty,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: but I still think regardless, it is beneficial to run
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: one fifty to see to see what you're getting. So
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: it's very simple. So we got the pool of five hundred.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Now we're changing it to one fifty sixty eight percent
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: of Rory, so the gap between Scotty and Rory closes
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit here. Obviously you get sixty eight Rory
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: forty four or sixty eight Scotty forty four Rory twenty
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: six percent Ludwig. Those are three highest owned guys, and honestly,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you're probably gonna get that no matter what you do. Like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: these guys are projecting very well. It's easy to fit
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: in two spends, and that's basically what the optimizer is
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: telling us. So what I will initially do when I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: go through my process is yeah, I might like high
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Smith this week. Do I want twenty percent?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I mean I could, I guess, do I guess? The
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: one thing it definitely after those three. I mean it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: spread out a ton, and I guess that does kind
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: of make sense. Right. It's gonna want as much Scotty
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and Rory as possible and then just gonna sprinkle in
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: whatever else works. So you're gonna get a lot of
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: different combinations of Scotty and Rory teams. You know, no
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: shock here, like at all. I guess when I ran this.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And I think that's kind of what
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: you're you're setting up for. This is the thing we'll
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: look at, Derek. We could see but Fleetwood is projecting
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you can see it right there for right now, sixty
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: four points and fifteen percent ownership. Again, that's subject to change,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and I you know, when who pops up ours or
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: we can pop it over and see you could check
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that out. And Brian, just to clarify, with these dry runs,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: it's not builts. We expect to be duped. I actually
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: said this earlier today on the Mail Show. It's like
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: it's not that you're scared of being duped. It's almost
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: like you're gonna be do your your roster construction is
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: going to be duped if you just do the same
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: thing everybody else does. So you start to see who
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: is everybody on and what are they doing with everyone
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: when they're building, And that's really the part you're looking for.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: There's one hundred shows out there, podcast you name it,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: of people going through the tiers and telling you who
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: they like and why and what their stat model said
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and all these factors, and some weeks that will work out,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: some weeks it won't. All we're trying to do on
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: this show is unlock your mind for how to play
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: DFS and actually get better and apply it towards the game.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Within the game of playing DFS tournaments, what is the
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: field doing. We're showing you, what are the numbers, what
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: are all that stuff, it's all up there, But what
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: is the field doing? What are some things that we
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: can do differently or what are we noticing? And then
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: we can apply our own thoughts towards that. That's to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: me and it always has been this way much more
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: valuable than going through tier by tier, and as I
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: like Scotty, and I say, but no, I like Rory.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Well then who do they like? You don't even know.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about dfs and how to get better at
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the actual game.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I refreshed. We have our updated ownership and
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: projection numbers in here now, and I just wanted to
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: see what the difference is. And again, you know, there's
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: probably gonna be some differences we'll see, but you can
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: do the average as well. It's very easy to click
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: right here projections and you get the average of saber
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: and ship it. Same thing here, you get the average
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: of sabersin and and ship it. But again, here's the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: twenty build sort by exposure and more of the.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Same Bridgman than Heighsmith, even though they're like not the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: same dude, But look at the six case popping up.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Though you got Bridgeman Glover posting high Smith, all those
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: guys are in the sixes that are popping up there.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: So that makes perfect sense to go with our our
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: sort of Scotty Rory thing. And look at the line
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of Scotty Rory Scotty Rory like it's all popping up
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to basically be very similar. So again, if you're doing that,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I would probably just look to get really different in
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the other four spots.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: And another thing to definitely point out is even when
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: it's not going Scotty Rory, it's going Scotty Morikawa to
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: build two studs, it's going. So this is the first
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: one that's kind of Scotty semi balanced. You're seeing Rory
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: can't lay, so it still wants to somewhat expensive guys
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: in there. To start, I bumped it to one hundred
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: and fifty sort by exposure here and now we're getting
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: seventy percent Scotty, forty five percent Rory. So this is
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: actually man very similar to what we're getting with the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Sabersim projections, and we're I think seventy sixty eight percent
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Scotty and forty four Rory. It's seventy and forty five.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I will say, I think we're definitely a little light
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: on these numbers. We'll see. I mean, James is going
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to go through tonight and kind of talk for it all.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: He is doing the stream like you talked about. You know,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I think Scotty's probably closer to fifty, Rory probably closer
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to forty. Is that kind of how you're seeing it.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I actually think it's more just Rory's numbers off. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: think Scotty could come in around that number. I think
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Rory would come up though, I think what's gonna happen.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: One thing I would say, if you go sort by
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: price for a second, can we just see this Because
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Philly Fantom always a good supporter and appreciate him, said,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you know, what's the situation with Xander? Feels like a
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: great play regardless that, so we have him only at
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: twelve and I think we're not getting much of him
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and the projection won't be there. But that's someone where
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: like people are saying, if you think that and you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: see it, that's how you can make it work for
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: you and work in your favor, because yeah, even if
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: he does get a little bit of late steam or
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: get some of that ownership that you know goes away
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: from the fifty to forty model you were mentioning, some
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of that could go to Xander in the wave that
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: he's in and people being willing to take the risk.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: But you would have to basically put that in. If
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you're just doing a dry run and saying, Okay, I
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: got what I want it, you're not gonna get enough
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: of it, you're gonna have to finagle it to make
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: it happen so that you actually get Xander into your lines.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, for sure. And so here is another good example,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like sort of by a price, we have Ludvig, we're
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: only getting six percent, Like if you like him, playing
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: six percent is stupid, Like, if you like him, you
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: need to be playing him more. So let's go in
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and say I want twenty percent him. I'll sort by exposure.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Is there anything that's coming in super High that I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable with? Do you? I mean, will we really want
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: twenty eight percent? JJ? Spond for me, I'm gonna pass
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: on twenty eight percent. I just want fifteen our guy
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: high Smith. You know we're showing seven percent ownership but
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: getting twenty six. I want twenty six percent of high Smith. Yeah,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: probably not, like, just give me fifteen. And Davis Thompson, Yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: you know what you know, I like him a little bit,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I don't like him a ton twelve. And this question
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: has come up a lot in our discord, so I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: did want to touch on. It's like if I make
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: moultiple changes like this, I can easily just hit apply
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and there's a way. Actually, if I remember the drop
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: down here, you can turn it on. So always just
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: auto apply exposure, so it just automatically updated as I
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: change those numbers. I don't like that. I want to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: physically do it so I'm hitting a ply. But if
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I make multiple changes to my player pool here or
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: my lineups, I just want to come back and rebuild
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: and see what it does. I want to see what
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: it does because I want more lineups that fit my criteria. Right,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: So that's a question that keeps popping up. You know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: if you do make these changes, should you rebuild for me? Yeah?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: If I make three or four changes, Yeah, if I'm
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: making just like one, maybe I just let it, let
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: it roll, and well we know optimals can be way
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: you guys stick with. The nice thing about sabersim is
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: what I've noticed using it a ton is it's giving
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: you competitive lineups regardless of the salary. So I don't
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: change it a ton. In some sports, I will, like
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: MMA if I don't want to go to fifty thousand,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: or I think that's the cap price. If I don't
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: want to go to fifty, I'll bring it down a
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: little bit. I'm not as worried in PGA because I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: not getting like super super chalk lineups. They're giving me
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: lineups that makes sense regardless of price. Yeah, right, is
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: that kind of how you view it as well?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, And I was just gonna say the forty eight
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: five or forty seven doesn't matter here, Jason. It's the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: only thing that the only difference here is forty nine
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to nine because Saber will give you good fifty K
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: lineups knowing that you're max and the salary versus that,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: especially if you're using Saber Score, because then it's recognizing
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in a large field, you need to account for product
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: ownership and leverage in different factors. But it's a forty
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: seven and forty eight five is almost the same in
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: this scenario versus when you go to Showdown not so much.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It also recognized for that because obviously different things that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you're applying it. But I'm not getting like when I'm
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: running my one fifty, I'm rarely ever getting anything near
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: forty seven on a main slit on a Showdown slate.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: It's possible because the projections are very similar on just
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: eighteen holes of goal versus the separation you could find
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: over four full days in classic.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're getting them mix. You got forty nine,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: forty nine nine or forty nine eight, forty nine nine,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: forty nine nine, forty nine to five, fifty thousand, but
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: total ownership's only seventy seven percent.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Guys under eight percent in the lineup exactly.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the main thing. Forty nine nine, forty
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: nine to six, you know, fifty thousand here, but you
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: have loan dudes here, three guys seven percent or below.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Any Scotty Rory lineup is obviously going to have, you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: based on the ownership, at least sixty percent ownership the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: total lineup.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: And Brian, this is right on the screen if you
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: see hoops exposure on Scotti Scheffler, it says sixty four
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: point seven percent ninety seven in brackets. That's on one
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty lineups that he's built for. So they
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: make it literally foolproof when it comes to that, like
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you can't mess it up. You can see exactly what
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you're getting on what you're getting, and that's kind of
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the key component. What do you think?
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: What what? I guess I have a different answer regardless
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of what you say, But what what is the thought
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: process on how many people use an optimizer for golf PGA, Well.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I think I think, yeah, I think it's a high
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's a high number, and I think a
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: big misconception people like, oh, I only build like three,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: four or five lineups, like I don't need an optimizer,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Like there's definitely definitely benefits, like sometimes I hand build,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: but I still come in and run teams with the optimizer.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: There's just so many different benefits in value in doing it.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: So I think the number continues to rise in terms
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: of the players that use it, but again a lot
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: of different ways to go about using an opt.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Being in customer service at ship a nation dot com,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I can promise you the number is rising daily on
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the amount of people using an optimizer specifically Saber sim
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate that point. That was definitely a good
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: one there, and I think in general. My other thing
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say is even if there, even if
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: people aren't using it, Derek, I think you'd be surprised
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: that how many people still build like the optimizer, because
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: when even when they handbuild, they're going with what makes sense? Okay,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: it's a Scottie Roy, Can I make that work well.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I heard someone say, hi Smith, good at six. I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: heard someone say this, and they go click it in
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and you could end up on a similar spot. But yeah,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: now that you're asking it the way, who just said it?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I have literally a whole twenty minute segment and one
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: of the courses I've done recently talking about optimizer benefits.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I think it's the biggest myth in all of dfs. Actually,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I would go as far to say that of people
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: saying optimizers are only for people that build one fifty,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that is so far from the truth. It's almost necessary
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: and important when you are building one fifty, But there's
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: a huge value to having an optimizer for you when
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: you're building five lineups, ten lineups, twenty lineups. It still
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: helps you find versions of your lineups that you may
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: not think to build when you're just out there building
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: by hand. It'll also be able to be adjusted for menuniques.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Like if you say, if you're building my hand, you're
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: just replacing one guy in every lineup. It's nice you
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: have a tighter pool, but you could have had some
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: two v two's in there and stuff that it would
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: have found for you. That makes more sense. So I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: think that's kind of the key component and like it
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: does every slight possible Jeff. So yeah, it's like we
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: do what we do, they do what they do.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much the same case at least when it
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: comes to Swing season and Golf Core members, we'll get
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: our stuff. Starter members will get both. That's the component and.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: First single Entry. I mean, I think it's very clear.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: The best way to build is, like you if you're
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: building one team, you have a pretty good idea of
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: a few guys that you want in the lineup, like
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you know, and you know what, we can go through
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: this because I think it is a question that a
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: lot of people kind of asked, Like I would go
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: in and say, you know what I'm playing. I want
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Scottie for sure, so I'm gonna hit the lock button
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: right there on him. I know that I really like
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Justin Thomas, I'm playing him for sure, and then I'm
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: gonna just pick a random cheaper dude I really like
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: JT posting. So those are my three guys I'm playing
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: this week in my main one lineup for single Entry. Now,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: if I go in and click rebuild here, those guys
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: are going to show up in every single lineup that
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: comes out here. So now I'm looking at different combinations
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: that I like, and you're gonna get lineups that make sense.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: They know the optimizer obviously knows Scotty's going to be popular,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: so if you are playing a seven K guy with
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: in this lineup, you probably don't want the most popular
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: seven K guy in here. So it's going to give
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: me lineups with these three, and it's going to give
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: me some options to look at and I can still
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: make changes and kind of pick something that makes sense.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: So that's how I would use it, and it might
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: only be two guys. They you know you want to
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: play for sure, and then you run it and you
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: see what you can get.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a good way of doing it
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: because I know we just launched us last week, so
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I don't mind taking all these questions and bring them in.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: But like Derek mentioned this one here, if you are
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: a golf only member at Shipping Nation, be forty nine
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: dollars a month, you can get in for fifty nine
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a month with ship Deviser. If you're golf only, if
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: you're playing every other sport, you can start ninety nine
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: or one twenty nine. So it's not an additional one
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. It's forty nine for golf, only
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: fifty nine to add sabersim for golf, ninety nine to
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: have all sports, or one twenty nine if you want
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the starter package. And then, speaking of the starter package,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Michael asked this, it's actually right on the ship at
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: nation dot com slash join page. But the additional sports
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: are clearly outlined, and it is tennis, WNBA F one
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: UFL and then couple of esports lol lol and CSGO.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind. That's the other ones there. Yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: but I don't have too many others like. I like
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the way you just set that up. And that's what
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I think people don't do enough. They recognize they want
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: two or three options, but then they just hand build in.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Well I could put these three guys in, Well, why
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: not just put them in Build ten lineups with your
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: three locks and go look at what the best versions
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: of your three locks are, and you may start to
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: see patterns. You may find a really cool lineup that
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: has everybody you like that completely skips the seven K range.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: When everyone's landing at seven k, you find natural leverage
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: with players and golfers you like, so it's not about
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the plays, it's the law that you liked, and it's
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: a lineup that gives good leverage on the field that
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: you're in. So little things like that can definitely make
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: up the difference.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we have five hundred lineups with these guys,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: so I just changed it if you're playing a single entry,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: but I brought it down to if the number of
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: entries is one thousand to ten thousand, so a little
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: smaller field, single entry type thing. Every single lineup here
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: has posting j T. Thomas or Justin Thomas and Scotty Schefflers.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: You can go through and kind of see, and it's
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: ranked by what makes most sense for these sort of contests.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: So the other three guys in this first line up,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Davis Thompson, Shane Lowry, Joe high Smith forty nine to six.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: It shows up as our top ranked lineup with those
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: three guys based on you know, our projections and our
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: ownership getting a ton of different combinations. Let's see if
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I just want to narrow it down to the ten
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: best teams with that combo, still the same team up top,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and you can kind of see them. Oh, you know
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: what I don't want in this lineup. Boom, it would disappear.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Bridgeman teams would would be gone and you wouldn't see them.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: So let's see boom. Don't want Bridgeman anymore? Be gone,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: apply apply boom. Now my lineups have no Bridgeman in there.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: So a lot of different ways to go about using this,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: but for me personally, this is how I would use
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: sabers him for a single entry. And again, it doesn't
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: have to be three locks, it could just be two.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I just want I know for sure I'm playing Scotty
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: this week. I know for sure I'm playing Justin Thomas
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: and my main team, but the other four very flexible
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: on the other flour or you can start eliminating guys
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: that you know you don't want. I'm definitely not playing
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Mori Kyle. I'm definitely not playing Chris Kirk. Boom boom.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Unclick them all and say there's I had my two locks,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: but then there's I'm deciding between ten other guys to
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: fill those other spots. Unclick everybody but those ten and
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: run it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I what another thing is too, I'll bring up this
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: is kind of the way the show's gone it's perfect.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: And again a lot of people are loving it, saying
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: good stuff. We're going through all this stuff so they
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: can help understand the actual game and optimizers. But I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: think people don't realize too. Like, here's a prime example
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: for a handbuilder or somebody out there. Ah, screw what
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the shout a dark guy, Jill came down with two fifty.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Screw these top end guys. I'm not playing any Scotty
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: no Rory this week. Let me build out the best lineup.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: You know what they do, They just build the best
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: one by hand. Well, if it's not gonna be those two,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: it's these six guys and works on this. How about
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: a dry run hooped off to do what I'm saying.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: But an example where you just turn off Scotty and
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Rory and like, do your dry run, find out what
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you're projecting with Scotty and Rory lineups, your best projected lineup.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: You can sort it. You'd see, Okay, let's say it
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: is I don't know you had up there three hundred
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and ninety. Let's say is the best projected lineup with
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: those two And then you say, okay, great, now let
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: me build again. But I'm gonna turn off Scotty and Rory.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: What are the best projected and versions of my non
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Scotty Rory lineups? Because that's what I want to see.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And then it's not about the picks and the plays,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: it's I want to know I'm giving up when I
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: sacrifice Scott. What are the pros and cads. I'm clearly
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: not getting them in their projection. But oh I'm only
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: giving up eight points in golf on projection. I still
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: have lower owned options. I still get some nine K
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: guys that I think, I know, I'm not going to
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: make up the win equity, but maybe the made cut
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: equity and they beat them out and some of the
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: cheaper guys down low fail. Like I could see this working,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: especially in a smaller field. Let me take a shot. Well,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: if you're just building that by hand, good luck figuring
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: out all of those factors versus on here in seconds.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Basically you can just have it together thirty seconds to
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a minute, you've got it all figured out, and then
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you can make your decisions in the timeline after that.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: But at least you'll know, yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Fully agree with you. I mean, that's the beauty of
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: a tool like this. I mean, just so many different
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: ways to use it, regardless of the number of lineups
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: you're building or the contests that you're playing in. Like,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: there's just so many different ways to use it, and
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: you know, we're just touching on a fraction of it
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: on these shows, Like we're touching on just one fraction
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: of what is possible by you know, pairing up our
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: content with this tool. But I think it's you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: important stuff and good talking points. And yeah, we'll definitely
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: you know, go through some of these ranges pretty quickly
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: and talk about some of the plays that we're interested
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: in this week. But I think, you know, walking through
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: this process is you know, just as valuable. For sure.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's more valuable. And obviously I'm the poster
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: boy for that. I could care less about some of
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the other stuff. It's I just want to talk about
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: this stuff all day. But for me, if you are
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: looking at this slate this week, whop, like, what are
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: some of the spots that stand out for you that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: others aren't going to like looking at that dry run
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and seeing, okay, we get the Scotty Rory stuff, if
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you're to move away from that, it doesn't sound like
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you personally are super high on the Zander angle, What
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: would your sort of plan of attack be when it
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: comes to lineups that wouldn't have Scotty or Rory or
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: do you have a difference of opinion on sort of
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: how you would use Scotty and Rory in different ways
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you would.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Build Yeah, I think you know, for me personally, this week, majority,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: if not all, of my teams will probably start with
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: one of those guys, like I think it's just one
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: those and and you know that means I'm probably gonna
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: have little to know Xander, I'm gonna have little to
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: know Morikawa. But you know, my next guy that I
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: do like quite a bit is definitely Ludvig. I think
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: he's close to those two. He has winning upside. Obviously,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: there is the week where but he played well, opened
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: up well, got sick and then it looked like it
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: definitely was lingering. The next week played like played like
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: crap and then bounce back in but did he get
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: he gotta win right, So yay, he won. So his
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: game should definitely fit this course. Most courses are gonna
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: fit him perfectly. But I think he's a phenomenal play
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Buying into the Justin Thomas resurgent stuff a little bit
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: like man, I struggled with guys like Tony Feow, Sam Burns.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: That kind of you know, sums up a little bit
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: of what I'm looking at in the nine care and
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: definitely Ludwig and JT are the guys I'm most interested in.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I could see that. I guess you know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: some other guys there, like the Morikawa can't lay JT's
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: of the world all kind of standout. Mayo is trying
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: to sell me on fee now, so I'll have some
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: of the Mayo molds, if you will. Those builds.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: No, I don't mind that. Actually I own another thing
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: because I don't. I think it's gonna be lower than
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: this nine. There's a couple guys that just have to
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: get squeezed in this nine K range, and I think
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: it's definitely few and morecu. I think their numbers are
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: much lower. I think few could be SIXI ish. I
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: think Marico is probably kindish. I want to say, you know, so,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I think those guys can definitely get squeezed. I don't
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: hate that call at all. And the Feedow thing does
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: make a little bit of sense to me for sure.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was he was saying like, if you know,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: even off the tea and stuff like that, if he's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: in the rough there, it's not as bad as the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: other stuff, and he hits a lot of green. So
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: this week is gonna be that guys that can grind out,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: make those pars things like that. So you know, if
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: it's gonna set up that way, that's what we were
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: talking about story, So if you think it's gonna be
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that way, he would fit that mold. And his kind
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: of argument was against like Fleetwood there, who's going to
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: be super popular and fits a ton of different builds.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Is you do have guys around him that you could
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: go to, So certainly a pivot would be feenaw. I
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: think the Stone had a couple of different things I
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: was looking at earlier too when it came to pivots.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: So just that range does have some options. But talking
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: about the eight K range quick, I just don't see
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: how many people can land here. Yeah, right, maybe or
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: two guys, but after that it has to cut off
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's just not a very appealing range.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: And you know, we've seen these loaded field events where
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: you can kind of make the case I think for
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: mid tier builds. I think making the case for mid
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: tier build this week is just a massive mistake, Like
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: there's just too much win win equity. Scottie Brory, Ludwig
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Marikawa can't lay JT like it dropped off to me,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: but I think the ownership will also drop off. So
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at guys in this range that are playing well.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Russell Henley playing very very well lately. I mean he's
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: been very very steady man, and he's showing the ability
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: to perform on any sort of track. Maverick McNeely. At first,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: I was like eighty seven hundred for McNeely. Hell No,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I like mcneelly. I play him a lot, but eighty
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: seven I can't do it. Then I start digging and
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: looking like he could be turning a corner a little bit,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and uh, I think he's another guy that could get
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: overlooked in this range. Victor Hoveland I think is somewhat interesting.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Like with Hoveland, if you tried him last time out,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: which I did and it was a fucking disaster, I
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: think you kind of have to try it again. So
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like a pot committed I think I'm Victor, So
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna give it another whirld probably won't
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: work out very well, but man, if he was gonna
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: find it, it just seems like it would maybe be
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: on a course like this. Shane Lowry seems like a
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: safe play this week set Straka. I think with a
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: guy like set, like if you've been playing him, you
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: play him. And then Windham I do like Windham at
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: the eight K flat. The thing for me with Windham
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: is like, when it's going well, he has a chance
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: to compete and win the golf event, and that's kind
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: of what you want. So those are some names that
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: kind of stand out in the eight k in for me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing about it is kind of an interesting
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: spot because outside of let's say, Henley and Lowry, I
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: guess are kind of the two. I guess McNeely too,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: but you know they wouldn't fit. The other point that
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, the course history versus the recent form,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: like Henley kind of has both, Lowry kind of had
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: a third year last year. But it's looking at that.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: But I think like nobody wants Corey Connors because of
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: his form, but here eighteenth twenty first, eleventh, third, nobody
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: really wants Keegan his form by the way, isn't even
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that bad. But nobody wants Keegan and you've got thirty
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: six tenth, eleventh tenth hovelind you mentioned he had a
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: twenty second then he missed a cut, but thirty six
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: tenth second here, So it's a little bit of that
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: type of battle that you're seeing. Even Wyndham Clark second
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: here last year, Sung Jay eighteenth, twenty first, twentieth twenty first,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: like he's had good results here too. So a lot
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of these guys in this range you're battling course history
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: versus recent form. I always like to rely on the form,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: but if they got there, that would be the angle
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: that people would play. And you just can't get to
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the eight k's very easily. So I think going back
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: to the top, just mentioning it, not a lot of
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: our lineups landed on Scotty or Rory and then two
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: or three eight k guys or however you want to
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: build it out, probably two.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Look at this ownership in
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: our lineups are one fifty we just ran it Sunday six,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Henley thirteen percent, McK neely zero. I mean, I'm not
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: counting that. You know, he's at zero Taurus zero, Burger zero,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Keegan two, Hovelin zero, nineteen for Shane Lowry, eight for Stepstraka,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: ten for Robert McIntyre, zero for Wyndham Clark. Right, So
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: it just tells you the sort of builds you're going
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: to see this week.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know. And that's
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: what when Brian was asking earlier, Okay, now what's your
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: next move type of thing tying it all together to
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: what we're actually talking about hitting these ranges, that's the point.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: If you know, Scotty's getting to be seventy five percent
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: even on a one to fifty set, but you know
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: a generic set, if the optimizers doing that, so are people.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: They're building this way by hand, and so it doesn't
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: really matter how many people have the optimizer. It's just
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: noting not many people are building it with Scotty and
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a couple of eight K guys. So if you had
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: a Scotty Hovelin Lowry or a Scotty Lowry Straka and
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you want to build something like that, you can still
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: easily get to that build. And now you're sacrificing all
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: those nine K guys, and you're sacrificing Scotty and Rory.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: But while you're doing that, you're still keeping the Scotty
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: win equity in there. He's three to one to win
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: this tournament or three and a half to one. But
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: you're not forcing in Joe high Smith, Lucas Glover, Harris English, JT. Post.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: You're not forcing those guys. You might only need one
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: of them to make it all work. So I look
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: at stuff like that and I think that's probably the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: better way to do it, because then you're not only
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: you're on lower owned plays with Scotty builds, but you're
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: on unique different roster construction than most Scotty builds for
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: large field tournaments.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: YEP, agree with you. Seven k range is obviously big
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: in terms of the number of guys here. You know,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I'll mention a few that stand out to me and
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: then quick run through of the exposures that we got
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: in a one point fifty. But you know, Tomkim not
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: a great course fit, but I don't know. He randomly
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: shows up places I do, like Pendrith AUCTIONA and Corey Connors.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Think Corey Connors it was I think it was last
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: year slow starts of the year, and then kind of
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: just like turned on at some point. He just improved
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: all his results. Kind of a slow start this year
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: to the year to the season, like Kenny start to
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: turn it on a little bit. There's been some signs
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: of life. I mean, his best finish basically this season,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the real season the Genesis finished twenty fourth. He's seventy
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: eight hundred, Like if he gets into the top twenty,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: like you take that so I do. Like Connors, you know, Fitzpatrick,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know about him. Jason Day the one guy
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: that's interesting to me, and you see we're getting eighteen
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: percent of Ben Griffin just seems like a guy to
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: me that I just want on easy, weaker field events,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know like people are gonna play because
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: his last two finishes have been solid, but like he's
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: around some real dudes here and I don't know, I
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: might be like underweight on him. I'm gonna keep riding
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: the Michael Kim thing like man, like similar situation if
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: you're playing Michael Kim a lot, which I have, Like,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't know how you get off at this point,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Like maybe maybe you said, all right, I've made enough.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna not plan. I'm just continuing on min Wu,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Adam Scott, Aaron Ry thinks interesting, grazier man, I think
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: is fine. Start looking at the exposure, you know, you
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: start to see some decent exposure here in terms of
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: what we're getting. Eighteen on Pendrith, we're getting nineteen on
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Ben Griffin, eleven on Adam Scott, Seawouz popping in at fifteen,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: eighteen on Rye, sixteen on Denny, twelve on Davis Thompson.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's about JJ Spond at fifteen. So that's uh.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: And I had to cap Jjspond by the way, because
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: we're getting more JJ Spond and we're getting more Davis Thompson.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: So those guys would be coming in higher own than
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: them we're showing here, or we'd be getting more exposure
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: than we're showing here, I should say.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Another tricky part of that is kind of the
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: stuff you talk about with like the Michael Kims, the
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Ben Griffin stuff. I got a lot of these results
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: a bit on a little bit easier courses or courses
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: that played easier like Ben Griffins. I believe is the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: fourth of the Mexico and then fourth that the cognizant
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: playing like the Mexico basically played easier than Craig Ranch
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: for the Byron Nelson whoever. It is so that like
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the little things like that, where it's not that I
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: think I think he's just an easy field guy. It's
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: if he's gonna be the one that gets steamed or
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: boosted or the optimizer loves him, why not move to
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: some of these guys around him. And then the other
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: thing is if it's gonna be a grinder type event,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: like a grind fest, some of the guys that we
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: mentioned throughout the show that just you know, the twenty
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: twenty version of this was kind of that set of
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: hatt and won that year, but like Matt Fitzpatrick pretty
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: good that year and some other years, nobody really moving
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: on him. And he Sung Jay earlier finished third that year,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Nobody really on Sung Jay for once, you know what
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like I'm always on him, but just little
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: things that I'm seeing when we get to the six
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: k range, like Bez and some of those guys, there's
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: definitely that have you know, a certain type plays here well,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: and you see the course history for the ones that
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: have done good. And I'm not a big course history guy.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just noting this that you see a lot of
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: people continue to play well here. Did they really have
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: great form? Again, you can dive this stuff, but I'm
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: just saying, did they really have amazing form every single
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: year that they came into this tournament and then had
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: a good result or is it something about it that
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: sparked here? So I think to that point it doesn't
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: mean it's gonna work. But I'm looking at different angles
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: like that where it's I'm already getting different and it's
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: guys that have had good results here that are bigger
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: names that are just at lower price points that maybe
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: this is a spot they turn it around at And
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that, Like to me that that's
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the risk I'm willing to take.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Agreed. If you just go in and run the optimizer,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: which we essentially did, you are going to get I
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: think a lot of six K guys sprinkled in because
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: it's going to get a lot of Scotty, It's gonna
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: get a lot of JT like you see in this build.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: So a lot of these guys we're getting exposure to.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Patrick Rodgers has shown up twenty three percent. We got
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Jagger at ten post in ten see best ten, Lucas
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Glover fifteen. I wrote thirteen high Smith fifteen, which I
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: had to cap if you guys remember I had to
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: cap that exposure because we're getting a shit ton more
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Bridgeman fifteen. So you're gonna get a lot of these
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: guys mixed into your lineups now, the ones that kind
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: of stand out to me. I really really like Nick
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Taylor sixty seven hundred. I think he's a really good
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: play He's been playing well. I think he could easily
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: be more expensive. I'll let you talk about Harris English.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: This pot got her guy somewhat interested there at sixty five.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: I mean he just got the ability to bomb it
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: out there, you know, moderate interest in Cibez. Nick Dunlap,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Max Homa sixty three. Crazy how
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: quickly he's falling fine? Going back to high Smith Bridgeman,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: I think's fine. I'm gonna play again. If you're getting
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of Scotty and Rory, you're gonna have to
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: get comfortable down here. And I'm pretty comfortable down here
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: with the quite a few guys.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick, Nick Taylor's getting pretty popular. English is popular,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: but that you know, we'll see how it actually goes
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: like those the options around them, there's tons, there's not
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: a huge difference. Again, everyone's all but this recently and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: all this other stuff again this we just talked about
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  Speaker 1: reasons why that may not be the case or what's
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  Speaker 1: required at this course. And you've got Benny Ann lower
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  Speaker 1: than usual, Brian Harmon a bez who already talked about
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  Speaker 1: it just sixty five hundred, JT. Poston at sixty six
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  Speaker 1: hundred dunlap, Chris Kirk. There's a bunch of guys down
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  Speaker 1: here that you could play that it would not shock
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  Speaker 1: anybody if they were the ones to come through. So
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  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of how I'm looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sprinkling these guys, especially because, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: being high on Rory and Scotty, even when I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to get a Scotty with a couple eight K guys,
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  Speaker 1: I probably still hop down here and grab somebody like
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to grab the same guy everybody else does.
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  Speaker 1: There's gonna be other options here. The projections are gonna
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  Speaker 1: lean on one thing, but there's gonna be other options
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  Speaker 1: around them that you can go to that make things work.
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  Speaker 2: YEP, I fully agree with you. I mean definitely agree
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  Speaker 2: with you. There's a lot of pivots, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different guys go with if you are you know, if
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  Speaker 2: it is Nick Taylor down here and you are going
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  Speaker 2: with a Scotty Rory build, you probably don't lock Nick
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  Speaker 2: Taylor to be the next guy in, because that's what
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people might potentially do. You look at
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  Speaker 2: it right in that range. You know, you don't love
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  Speaker 2: Harris English, but if you like Harris English, I guess
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  Speaker 2: he's coming in Highlands. So maybe you look to post it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, posting four percent. Uh, yeah, you're five percent.
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  Speaker 1: Or yeah, And I like that point. You just mad
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  Speaker 1: because I want to tack onto it. If you do
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  Speaker 1: like Nick Taylor enough that you just can't move off it,
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, you know what I'm in and I
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  Speaker 1: like Scotty, Okay, that's fine, But now just look what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing up the middle. Maybe now is when you
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  Speaker 1: pull the trigger on your Victor Hovelin's and your seven
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  Speaker 1: Rakas and guys like that, where you're using Nick Taylor
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  Speaker 1: in a different way in a Scotty lineup, you're getting
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  Speaker 1: your lower own plays in the middle. And I know,
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  Speaker 1: if it was in a vacuum and it was Nick
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  Speaker 1: Taylor versus the guy next to him at ten percent
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  Speaker 1: versus two percent. That's a matchup bet. Yes, if you
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  Speaker 1: could get that at five to one, you would take
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the matchup bet. But we're not playing a matchup bet.
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  Speaker 1: We're playing DFS. So if you really like it, it's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: not who you play, it's how you play him. But
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: remember it. When you go to move number three and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: people play chess, you're moving ahead, you're thinking ahead of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: other people. You're making moves to then make moves. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you need to be doing in DFS. You're treating
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  Speaker 1: it exactly the same way you're going through and saying,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: if this, then it means that, if this then that
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  Speaker 1: my guy title and I always talk about that hoop.
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  Speaker 1: We're bringing it in here now. But it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the way to look at it. You don't need to
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  Speaker 1: abandon everything. You just need to think like Coop just
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: did and said, if you're going this, this and then that, well,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: now you're kind of just tacking yourself into the same
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  Speaker 1: corner everybody else is by doing that method, so you
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  Speaker 1: can avoid it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll agree, we'll agree, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, man, I don't have too much else here. I
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  Speaker 1: think you know cover it pretty good. From the way
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  Speaker 1: to build out, the way to handle the slate API,
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  Speaker 1: specifically what people are doing this week with their builds.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have tons more over on the site. You see
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  Speaker 1: it up at the top there. You just hit the
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  Speaker 1: PGA for the dropdown, real quick hoop. That's kind of
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the other component is blending the tube. But just scroll
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  Speaker 1: up to the PGA drop down. The stone is up
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  Speaker 1: and it's ready. It's got the projections ownership. You can see.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. We've got everything color
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  Speaker 1: coded for the pivots, the sleepers, the high leverage, the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: tee times are all in one place. Yeah, you can
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: do a quick spin around it. It's you know, people,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: you know, just to see it's all in one place.
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  Speaker 1: That's the key with what we're doing. We're packaging everything,
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  Speaker 1: making it simple so it's all there. I put this
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  Speaker 1: on one screen, I put Sabersim on the other screen.
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  Speaker 1: I build my player pool off of that, and then
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I start to apply things from there. The slate plan
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  Speaker 1: is up and ready to go. The value report from
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: our guy Lee, the core rankings from our guy Lee,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's all up there ready to go, and you'll
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  Speaker 1: just give you a quick free preview so you can
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  Speaker 1: see it. But the idea here is simple. It's to
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  Speaker 1: get you everything you need in one place, easy to use,
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  Speaker 1: simple to get back to it, and then you can
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  Speaker 1: apply it, bring it over to Sabersim and all the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: support is in discord hoop. Any other final thoughts before
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  Speaker 1: we get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: No, looking forward to this week. All our content up
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: nice and early, discord very active, a lot of good
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: tidbits in there, and sabersims support is there if you
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: do want to give Sabersim a try, if you're not
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: already a Sabersim member with us over at ship Nation,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: great time to try their customer service reps, like we
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: talked about, very very active answering all questions and our
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: communities and they're helping each other out as well, so
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: it's a good time to get on board and give
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  Speaker 2: it a try. We'd love to have you and feeling
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  Speaker 2: good about this event, looking forward to it, and you know,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: good luck to everyone out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like Keith and Bone, Derek's being so great.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I'll answer the final one nd the show for him.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what we're saying. If you go Rory
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: and popular like Rory popular, Fleetwood popular, Nick Taylor popular
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: down low, this is the difference. And if you had
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: an optimizer, you could set it up to have two
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: of three of these in a group and see what
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: lineups look like. You could lock these three and see
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: what some of those lower owned versions to make it
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: have a good SABER score so that it shows you
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing. So that's the benefit of the optimizer
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do a lot more with it
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  Speaker 1: and be able to find these angles. In appreciate everybody
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  Speaker 1: so much, thank you for watching. If you have any
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: other questions regarding sabers sim, you can hit me up
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: directly or send us an email to info at ship
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  Speaker 1: at nation dot com. That's gonna do it for this one, guys,
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