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THE MARK OF CAIN: The Long Game Pays Off · HEAVY Music Interviews

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, Ali, Hey doing I'm good.
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Speaker 2: How are you, Kim?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry about the problems with coordinating Josie, that's okay,
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Speaker 1: that's a cow.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if I'd liked miss I've been. I
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Speaker 3: had four interviews day. I'd been crazy. I'm like, Dave,
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Speaker 3: did I get the time?
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Speaker 1: But that's well, Dave only really just told me about
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Speaker 1: ten minutes going on, and I think she might still
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Speaker 1: be in some work meetings.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, no, that's totally okay. That's all good, as
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Speaker 3: much as it's great to talk to any of you.
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Speaker 3: Guys are absolute legends in my eyes, so very good.
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Speaker 3: Hello two, be speaking with yourself and welcome to have
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Speaker 3: you mag So yeah, no, I see is that a
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Speaker 3: mark of Caine shirt that you have on?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Kind of work for you, so yeah, kind of.
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Speaker 1: I ended up we wore we wear Dicky's shirts on
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Speaker 1: stage I years and years ago and got them made
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Speaker 1: up for each of the band members, and then fans
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Speaker 1: started dancing for him. So then we started producing merch.
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Speaker 1: And now I've just moved house and I had to
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Speaker 1: get rid of a lot of clothes and I kept
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Speaker 1: oh my so and I figured it's kind of like
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Speaker 1: you know, when you're company, you wear the band mech no.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's also my own partner.
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Speaker 3: He saw you many many years ago in Sydney and
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Speaker 3: he just loved that and goes, yeah, they were wearing
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Speaker 3: like collared shirts and they just didn't look and then
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Speaker 3: learning he goes, oh my god, it did not sound
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Speaker 3: like what I was going to hear.
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Speaker 2: Thought I was going to hear.
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Speaker 1: I've always whenever I used to see bands, always would
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Speaker 1: look and think, God, there's like four completely differently dressed,
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Speaker 1: misfitting kind of people together, which is great bands of individuals.
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Speaker 1: Band members are all individuals, but because of the precision
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Speaker 1: of our music, because everything has to be locked down,
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Speaker 1: and really I kind of went, hey, we should kind
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Speaker 1: of wear a uniform per se.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, no, that's that's really cool. I like it.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I have to get my hands on
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Speaker 2: some of these.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're going to do some stuff for
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Speaker 1: the next next tour. So we can't. It's hard because
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Speaker 1: you can make it. They're not cheap, they're not T shirt,
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Speaker 1: and so you kind of if you make too much stock,
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Speaker 1: you kind of yeah, good stock behind. So typically we've
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Speaker 1: done custom orders for it in the past, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: then it's just a limited edition, which is kind of
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Speaker 1: cool as well.
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Speaker 2: It's very cool. That's very cool.
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Speaker 3: So what's been happening in the world of Marko Ka
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Speaker 3: music wise? And the you guys are coming up to
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Speaker 3: Z fifty fifty one sorry which poorly legend, which is.
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Speaker 1: Looking we're looking forward to that. That kind of became
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Speaker 1: a bit of a catalyst speak for us to come
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Speaker 1: out live again.
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Speaker 2: We yeah, because it's been some time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a couple of years. Back into twenty three.
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Speaker 1: We did the These tour for the anniversary for that album,
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Speaker 1: and we kind of went and did some shows on
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Speaker 1: the road. I mean, I'd had a cycling accent just
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Speaker 1: before it, which pushed some of the tour dates back
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Speaker 1: because I was able to walk and so forth. So
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Speaker 1: when we got back on the road twenty three, did
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Speaker 1: that tour, enjoyed it, went back. Typically we're going on
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Speaker 1: to it. We do a lot of rehearsals leading up
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Speaker 1: to the tour obviously, just to make sure it's super
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Speaker 1: match fit and tight and so forth. But then when
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Speaker 1: we come back from a tour, we go yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: now we just go back to normal life. This time,
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Speaker 1: we said, let's continue rehearsing maybe once a week or
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Speaker 1: once every two and start writing because I've never written
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Speaker 1: with Eli as our Okay, he's with us probably about
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Speaker 1: eleven twelve years now, and he was always our kind
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Speaker 1: of live drama that we used to go and play
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Speaker 1: live when John Stannier wasn't able to come across from
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Speaker 1: the US given the other commitments to the band. So
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Speaker 1: but then we kind of decided, well, we don't think
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Speaker 1: John Stanny is ever going to have the time to
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Speaker 1: come and do it. Eli's really now a permanent member
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Speaker 1: of the band. Let's write with him, and let's do that.
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Speaker 1: So we've been writing off and on now for the
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Speaker 1: last eighteen months and completed eight songs. Our writing style
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Speaker 1: is quite different maybe to other bands. I mean, Josie
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Speaker 1: used to be the main songwriter. We bring near complete
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Speaker 1: kind of bits and pieces to the to the rehearsal room.
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Speaker 1: Eli himself is obviously a very good drummer but also
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Speaker 1: plays guitar and bass, and he's got a studio where
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Speaker 1: he teaches drums, so he's bringing a whole lot of stuff,
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Speaker 1: largely completed songs.
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Speaker 2: Oh wow.
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Speaker 1: Then does the lyrics, but so the songwriting process has
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Speaker 1: changed a little. What we're finding is we've always had
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Speaker 1: lots of riffs, you know, we kind of start with
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Speaker 1: a riff and then build it out. We've now got
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Speaker 1: eight complete songs and we've demoed them in Eli Studio,
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Speaker 1: which is sounding really really great, and then we'll do
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Speaker 1: probably another two or three, finish off another three that
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Speaker 1: we've got lots in the idea space, we just need
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Speaker 1: to complete them. And so then we said, okay, well
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Speaker 1: let's get that I don't know what six album maybe
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Speaker 1: for us, maybe the sixth album to do that six
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Speaker 1: album and then we'll go out of the road. And then,
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Speaker 1: of course we always take longer than we think we're
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Speaker 1: going to take. So and then the opportunity to come
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Speaker 1: and play in Brisbane came up, we said, let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Paul Curtis has been a long standing friend.
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Speaker 3: In colleague's amazing, so I've love working with Pauly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Paul said, yeah, we'd love to do that.
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Speaker 1: Great bands on the show. Let's go and do that.
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Speaker 1: And of course we said, okay, well we can maybe
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Speaker 1: play a few new songs. It'll pause us a little
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Speaker 1: bit for our writing, but and then of course you go,
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Speaker 1: we're going to rehearse and be so much fit. Why
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Speaker 1: don't we just go and do a couple of other
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Speaker 1: shows now now we've got it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. So you're going to do a few
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Speaker 2: after a few.
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Speaker 1: Others, perfact, because we're not going to Perth, but you know,
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Speaker 1: per Perth to challenge.
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Speaker 2: Always it is logistics, yeah, because they do.
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Speaker 1: Get the ship end of the stick and get that.
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Speaker 1: Adelaide used to get that as well.
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Speaker 2: Because it's the way to go, and she got Adelaide.
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Speaker 2: These days I noticed a little bit. Yeah, it's not.
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Speaker 1: Quite as far as because Perth from Adelaide is another
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Speaker 1: two and a half power. Yeah, what we intend to
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Speaker 1: do is do these run the festival plus the three shows,
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Speaker 1: and we'll finish the album probably complete in the new year,
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Speaker 1: and then get on the road proper for a proper tour.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, well it's a nice warm up for
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Speaker 3: the fans. I tell you, I was absolutely wraps. It
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Speaker 3: was because I kind of knew that there was a
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Speaker 3: Z fifty one happening back in February. It was on
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Speaker 3: the you know, obviously Paul wasn't sure if it was
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Speaker 3: gonna come about and it was funny. It was just
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Speaker 3: before he released the lineup and I was listening to
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Speaker 3: my iTunes and like just my stuff I had, and
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Speaker 3: then it just runs on like similar tracks, and then
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Speaker 3: next minute you guys come on.
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Speaker 2: I went, oh my god, Mark Okain, I've.
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Speaker 3: Just had a moment. I'm like, how fucking good were they?
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Speaker 3: And literally within a week you guys are on the
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Speaker 3: bill and I.
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Speaker 2: Just about fell over. I went, oh my gosh, this
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Speaker 2: is amazing.
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Speaker 3: So I'm very happy to see you guys again because
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Speaker 3: it was gosh back in mid nineties, I think I
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Speaker 3: asked you guys at a festival.
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Speaker 2: Somewhere would have been.
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Speaker 1: We did quite a few of the in Queensland and
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Speaker 1: other areas back in the day. But liberty in terms
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Speaker 1: of touring because Jose and I have always had our
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Speaker 1: day jobs. Standire when he was in the band was
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Speaker 1: living in Brooklyn, New York, or touring with Tomahawk, which
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Speaker 1: he's doing right now, or he'd be battles So it
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Speaker 1: was always logistically hard and kind of lough take. So
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Speaker 1: you've got kids, you've got day jobs, et cetera, et cetera,
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Speaker 1: and t mock was never a particular money making venture
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Speaker 1: for us. It was a creative out for us, so
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Speaker 1: therefore doing it all the time wasn't necessary, and it
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Speaker 1: gave us creative freedom to play whatever we wanted, whenever
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Speaker 1: we wanted, and you know, occasionally it's sort of happy
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Speaker 1: not to be touring and then you kind of go,
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Speaker 1: I missed that enjoyment of going out and playing song.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice balance so that you guys have
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Speaker 3: had though, definitely, because you had when you've been doing
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Speaker 3: it for for some time.
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Speaker 1: I think the Shirts has established in nineteen eighty four, so.
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: So that's forty two years.
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Speaker 3: I spose Yeah, because I was born in nineteen eighty
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Speaker 3: it's a long time.
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Speaker 1: Although that's wild, hasn't been hasn't been forty two consistent years.
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Speaker 1: I mean we've always been obviously, Josie and myself are
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Speaker 1: a closers siblings, so come all the time, but has
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Speaker 1: not been consistently playing in the band all the time.
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Speaker 1: I mean I went overseas, Joseie went overseas, so we've
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Speaker 1: we've had time apart. And I think also the longevity
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Speaker 1: of the band helps with the siblings, you know, yeah, siblings,
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Speaker 1: you know, we can have some stinking fights.
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Speaker 3: That I think that any band I was like being
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Speaker 3: in a bad marriage with three or four different other
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Speaker 3: people exactly.
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Speaker 1: And you know you're in a tin shed in the
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Speaker 1: middle of summer. Yeah, in this case you kind of blood,
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Speaker 1: bloodstick and water.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, Yeah, And you guys have also got
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Speaker 3: your signature sound to which you know you haven't deviated from.
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Speaker 3: And that's I think, really you know what the fans
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Speaker 3: you obviously love, and it's you know, miss out but works,
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Speaker 3: you know, why change it?
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Speaker 1: And yeah, well, and I suppose and when we reflect
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Speaker 1: that it has been consistent as you say, I mean,
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Speaker 1: the influencers have changed. You know, early on you're probably
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Speaker 1: more likened to the Joy Division kind of the yeah
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Speaker 1: it melodic. Then we did some shows with Big Black
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Speaker 1: and Steve Abennie and that kind of introduced his drum machine,
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Speaker 1: you know, playing kind of went wow, that's a new
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Speaker 1: sort of style of tightness and so forth. And we
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Speaker 1: were already already playing really complex rhythms and stuff.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, definitely, And so then it was.
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Speaker 1: Kind of English melody meets American sonic. And then you know,
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Speaker 1: as you sort of just listen to different music, get
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Speaker 1: influenced and so forth. So I think you're right, there's
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Speaker 1: that consistency, and a lot of that is Josie's consistent songwriting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you said that she's dominantly just lyrics, so
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Speaker 3: it's not involved with the riffs.
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Speaker 1: Or just she's so Josie has from the get go
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Speaker 1: been it was really her band. I mean both engineers. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I engineering was my main career. I think Josey to
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Speaker 1: have done music as a career, but Mum and Dad said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: don't be silly. But Josie early days it was a
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Speaker 1: little more free to sort of bring riffs and muck
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Speaker 1: around and be a bit more organic. I mean, we're
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Speaker 1: not a jamming kind of band because of the structure
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Speaker 1: of the songs are quite engineering and mathematical, so therefore
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Speaker 1: it's not just hey, come along and play whatever you want.
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Speaker 1: So it's always had structure. But after a few years
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Speaker 1: Josie knew exactly what she wanted, how she wanted to sound,
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Speaker 1: so she would really bring stuff not completed, but would
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Speaker 1: have a really good idea of what she wanted and
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Speaker 1: for instance with our drummers like Ilse for example, as
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Speaker 1: an album, Aaron Houston's drummer then and Joe, I want
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Speaker 1: this and I want that, and so in my mind
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Speaker 1: and I was there. Josie wrote most of the drums
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Speaker 1: for Ilse. Aaron was a great and Josie also plays drums,
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Speaker 1: and Aaron was a great almost like human drum machine
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Speaker 1: to take and we had to punch We had to
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Speaker 1: punch in a few few more times and once. But
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Speaker 1: if you're working with the right people, then it works.
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Speaker 1: Then when John Stania joined, because he's just such an
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Speaker 1: iconic drummer in his own right, Josie wasn't as keen
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Speaker 1: to direct John Stanny as to what to play, but
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Speaker 1: it didn't matter because John Stanley knew exactly what to play.
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Speaker 3: And so yeah, yeah, the right person that you picked
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Speaker 3: to be part of the band, they just they work,
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Speaker 3: just gels the dynamics.
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Speaker 1: So yeah. So Jose's principal songwriter and always has been,
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Speaker 1: both lyrically and musically.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, nice. Nice.
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Speaker 3: And so when you guys recording the studio, do you
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Speaker 3: all go in and do it or do you do it?
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Speaker 1: No, we do it together. Yeah, So again we've probably
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Speaker 1: I know, some bands, particularly ones that are geographically separated,
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Speaker 1: can kind of do parts or seven.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's true, very different think styles are recording,
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Speaker 3: which for me it's it's interesting, yeah, to see how
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Speaker 3: it comes together.
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Speaker 1: We've always been a band that typically writes songs in
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Speaker 1: a rearsal studio, takes them out, live them, evolves them
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Speaker 1: through live shows, and then once it's lockdown, we go
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Speaker 1: on the studio and play. We do that. We did
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Speaker 1: that for the first three or four albums on as
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Speaker 1: we played with Standing because he was in country, we
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Speaker 1: had to really rely on him coming into country, spending
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Speaker 1: a week trying to write, and then some things weren't
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Speaker 1: finalized when we went in the studio, so we would
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Speaker 1: write a little bit in the studio and create them
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Speaker 1: in the studio more which was different because then when
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Speaker 1: we would have the album completed, we think, we've never
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Speaker 1: even played these live before, so we sometimes created headaches
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Speaker 1: because it was like, man, how are we going to
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Speaker 1: be able to pull that off live? So in this case,
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Speaker 1: where writing again like we used to, which is in
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Speaker 1: the rehearsal studio, we will then go into a recording
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Speaker 1: studio and put the things out and when we record,
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Speaker 1: we typically I mean it depends on the studio but
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Speaker 1: we will typically record being able to see each other,
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Speaker 1: isolating the instruments in different rooms, so we spill over,
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Speaker 1: but we'd all be watching each other, and because of
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Speaker 1: the tightness and the accuracy, we all kind of have
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Speaker 1: visual eyeline and play, so we would pretty will put
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Speaker 1: it down live. And obviously Steve Abeni, who you know,
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Speaker 1: we had done some shows with Di Dn't Be Black,
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Speaker 1: and then played with Shellac when they would tour. We
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Speaker 1: would play with Sheilac and we went.
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Speaker 2: To recording for a while.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and Steve passed away two years ago now,
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Speaker 1: but we were in Chicago recording studio and did some
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Speaker 1: songs with Steve, and he was probably one producer we
14:20
Speaker 1: would have loved to have done an album, a full
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Speaker 1: album with We did some songs with him, but not
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Speaker 1: a full album because he loved capturing the live sound
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Speaker 1: of the band and one of the things we felt
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Speaker 1: as a band sonically we were quite visceral and in
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Speaker 1: a live sense impactful and people felt it and so forth,
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Speaker 1: he never translated that onto the records as much as
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Speaker 1: I'd like to. So Albanie was big about capturing the
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Speaker 1: essence and the liveness of the band. So but yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think increasingly recording these days with all the DISI
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Speaker 1: recording techniques and so forth, it's easy to get a
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Speaker 1: big sound. Back in the day, we get put on
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Speaker 1: analog tape.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the old analog reels, and you were really a
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Speaker 3: different sound too, though.
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Speaker 1: With a different sound. And even though he is a
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Speaker 1: big analy he was a big analog fan, but reliant
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Speaker 1: on the quality of the engineer to capture the sounds
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Speaker 1: pressure on tape, whereas now digitally you can kind of
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Speaker 1: get it a little easier.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, for sure.
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Speaker 1: And sorry, so no you go.
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Speaker 3: I was just saying, when you play live, do you
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Speaker 3: guys plug in like the old school with leads and everything.
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Speaker 2: I see a lot of.
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Speaker 1: Bands, Yeah, so we do. And it's interesting because we've
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Speaker 1: been so we don't use innears. A lot of bands
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Speaker 1: use where they've got the kind of fold back in
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Speaker 1: their ears. We've never done it. Elis in another band
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Speaker 1: and they use in ears and he gets how good
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Speaker 1: they are, and you know, after playing for so long,
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Speaker 1: we're probably losing it a hearing because we've always a
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Speaker 1: loud stage sound and the fol has to compete with
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Speaker 1: our amps that are loud and then you've got to
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Speaker 1: fold back. That has to be as loud to be
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Speaker 1: he in vocals and drumma. But yeah, we're still very
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Speaker 1: much pedal boards, amplifiers, cables. We don't even have a.
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Speaker 2: Wireless Yeah, no, that's what I don't find them.
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Speaker 3: I mean I've used one before and actually it deviated
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Speaker 3: the sound so much, like yeah, so half of what
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Speaker 3: my rumboo can do.
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Speaker 1: What it's like, Yeah, And I mean so Jose and
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Speaker 1: I are kind of old school in that regard. Eli
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Speaker 1: is you know, probably thirty at least thirty years younger
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Speaker 1: than us, and he's much more, very very tech savvy.
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Speaker 1: So he's sort of saying, you know, the beauty of
16:47
Speaker 1: the innis obviously the consistency of the sound you said
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Speaker 1: at once, and no matter what room you're in, you're
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Speaker 1: hearing exactly what you want to hear. Yeah, because sound
16:55
Speaker 1: check is always well can you turn the drums up?
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Speaker 1: Can you turn this up? Can you turn it?
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Speaker 2: As?
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Speaker 1: You set the rig up? Once and that you just
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Speaker 1: take it on the road and it's just perfect. So yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's probably a more convenient way to travel and operate,
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Speaker 1: and certainly these days you can get digital amps that
17:13
Speaker 1: you can't don't even take you don't even take speaker
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Speaker 1: boxes or anything on stage, just take.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just plug it into the PA and it
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Speaker 2: all goes.
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Speaker 1: And so you know, Eli's toyed that concept with us,
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Speaker 1: and we're kind of just we haven't got me yet.
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Speaker 3: I see a lot of bands are still doing the
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Speaker 3: old school with like musical sitars with the leads, and
17:34
Speaker 3: I just love it.
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Speaker 2: It just's I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, there's got to be some healthy aspect of the
17:39
Speaker 1: music industry, and that's weightlifting. You know, we've we did
17:43
Speaker 1: many years of that own ready, but these days we've
17:47
Speaker 1: got crew that help us out and we're getting so
17:50
Speaker 1: old we've hurt our backs.
17:55
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, that's what you've You've definitely earned the
17:58
Speaker 3: place to have crew doing it for you, that's for sure.
18:01
Speaker 3: You guys have been absolute musical geniuses of this country.
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Speaker 1: And to some people saw us, I think it was
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Speaker 1: day one. We hadn't even at first show that you
18:10
Speaker 1: guys are looking tired.
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Speaker 2: It's like cheers mate, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, maybe, just no further comments about yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's on the old part. Yes, oh I know, but
18:26
Speaker 2: it's amazing.
18:27
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that you guys are going to be
18:29
Speaker 3: playing and I get to see you at ZE fifty one,
18:31
Speaker 3: which it's going to be a great day.
18:33
Speaker 2: I mean last year was just phenomenal.
18:34
Speaker 3: It was the day itself was just the energy in
18:38
Speaker 3: the vibe was amazing. It was honestly incredible, and everyone
18:41
Speaker 3: I spoke to that was the general consensus all around
18:44
Speaker 3: the other crowd, that the artists themselves.
18:47
Speaker 2: It was just a bloody good day.
18:49
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I think I think the mix of
18:51
Speaker 1: bands makes it. You know, first some of the crowd
18:55
Speaker 1: that sees some of the older bands, and then there's
18:57
Speaker 1: a few few of the new bands. So yeah, we're
18:59
Speaker 1: looking forward to it very much.
19:00
Speaker 3: So yeah, and mud Honey, of course, you know how
19:02
Speaker 3: phenomenal is that, Like, that's that's going to be pretty
19:05
Speaker 3: darn cool.
19:08
Speaker 1: As our manager says, we're vintage vintage bands.
19:11
Speaker 2: Now, not that makes me feel true.
19:15
Speaker 3: I love it though, like all my favorite bands and
19:17
Speaker 3: doing anniversary tours and I'm seeing it all again and
19:19
Speaker 3: it's just it's incredible.
19:21
Speaker 2: It's the literally the best. I love it.
19:23
Speaker 1: Well, that is part of it, because obviously there's an
19:26
Speaker 1: anniversary of one of the albums. We keep getting told
19:30
Speaker 1: by our webmaster anniversary of this this year or this
19:35
Speaker 1: market like Okay, So with enough albums out there, there's
19:38
Speaker 1: always an anniversary of some sort. So this year is
19:41
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth anniversary of this.
19:42
Speaker 2: Is This Okay, yep, the.
19:44
Speaker 1: Album we did, the first album we did with John Staniers.
19:47
Speaker 1: So nice part of the set. Obviously we won't keep
19:52
Speaker 1: fan favorites in there from Illa these and other albums,
19:55
Speaker 1: but yeah, a number of the songs are going to
19:59
Speaker 1: be from this Is It is just to celebrate the
20:01
Speaker 1: fact that it's twenty five, and some new ones in
20:03
Speaker 1: there as well, just to give a bit of a taste.
20:04
Speaker 1: They're probably maybe only two new ones for the festival set.
20:08
Speaker 1: For the rest of the shows will do around Australia,
20:11
Speaker 1: will add maybe maybe year three or four new songs
20:16
Speaker 1: just to give a bit more of a taste and
20:17
Speaker 1: road test to see how they.
20:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, So you guys are on the big
20:22
Speaker 3: stage or the small stage, you.
20:23
Speaker 1: Know, I don't actually know.
20:25
Speaker 2: I am more stages on a lean for the crowd.
20:28
Speaker 2: You guys are stable. It's on a bit of a downhill, it's.
20:31
Speaker 1: Right, okay, Yeah, we're not even familiar probably with the venue.
20:35
Speaker 3: It's okay, Well, it's like an amphithea of the Rome
20:37
Speaker 3: Street Parklands. I mean it's great, great venue, like great spot.
20:41
Speaker 1: Right, I don't think we've probably played that venue before.
20:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it doesn't.
20:45
Speaker 3: I mean it's been utilized now, but it wasn't venue wise,
20:49
Speaker 3: you know, it's been under used for sure, but it
20:51
Speaker 3: is absolutely insane. Like last year seen GrITT spring there,
20:56
Speaker 3: but that was part of the night at the Parklands.
20:58
Speaker 3: So they put it, which is happening again this year.
21:01
Speaker 3: And when I was because I interviewed Benny and Kwan
21:04
Speaker 3: last year for the fifty and they said it was
21:08
Speaker 3: one of their first venues that they played and they
21:10
Speaker 3: hadn't played back there since then, so it was kind
21:12
Speaker 3: of really cool.
21:13
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, yeah, looking forward to it. So, I mean
21:16
Speaker 1: we used to do was it Davies Park?
21:19
Speaker 3: Was that we're river stage? Is maybe one that's river Stage?
21:24
Speaker 3: Is that it's very similar to Parklands in the sense
21:26
Speaker 3: as an amphitheater and yeah, yeah.
21:29
Speaker 1: It sounds like a good vibe, so oh yeah, no,
21:31
Speaker 1: it's looking forward to that. So yeah, and we're just
21:37
Speaker 1: just to be able to get some new stuff out
21:39
Speaker 1: there as well.
21:39
Speaker 3: So yeah, for sure, and with so few so how
21:42
Speaker 3: many showed you said you were doing three or four
21:44
Speaker 3: after Z fifty one.
21:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got obviously the Brisbane Show Festival and doing
21:50
Speaker 1: I think we're doing Melbourne, so that's October. In November
21:56
Speaker 1: we're doing Melbourne, followed by Sydney on the one weekend
22:00
Speaker 1: and then I think on the twenty first November we
22:02
Speaker 1: do Adelaide. Oh nice great venue here. That very similar
22:08
Speaker 1: to some of the big venues set up in Brisbane,
22:10
Speaker 1: which I think part owned by someone from Powder Fingers,
22:13
Speaker 1: so they're very both banned friendly and also listener friendly.
22:19
Speaker 2: So that really that which one which Venny was at.
22:23
Speaker 1: That's the Adelaide venue was called Heinley Street Music Hall.
22:27
Speaker 1: So it's a three levels there's a bar and every
22:30
Speaker 1: level so the punters get nice ability to sort of
22:33
Speaker 1: relax and get visual site of the stage from every
22:37
Speaker 1: advantage point.
22:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:39
Speaker 1: All the backs of area for stage for band in
22:43
Speaker 1: text is also really really well appointed.
22:45
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.
22:46
Speaker 1: Venue it's about probably about a fifteen hundred and sixteen
22:49
Speaker 1: hundred capacity, so nice size, very nice.
22:52
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:52
Speaker 3: No, there's some good venues around us for sure. You
22:54
Speaker 3: know when they set out you know, like that for
22:56
Speaker 3: the for the punters it's it's always good.
22:59
Speaker 1: Yes, well, just because of what's happened with the number
23:04
Speaker 1: of pubs and other places in the urban city scape
23:08
Speaker 1: where you know, everything gets gentrified, people move in and
23:13
Speaker 1: then complain about the noise in the.
23:15
Speaker 2: In the northern rivers, you preach into the quiet. So
23:18
Speaker 2: it's very much to that are.
23:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a lot of a lot of venues
23:21
Speaker 1: haven't continued because of that. I'm sure it's the same
23:24
Speaker 1: anywhere else.
23:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that you know, the pubs have
23:27
Speaker 3: that a bit of an advantage too, obviously. You know,
23:29
Speaker 3: they they've got the poker machines mostly and they can
23:32
Speaker 3: afford to have that. And when you've got venues that
23:34
Speaker 3: are just targeted like for music, which I mean are
23:37
Speaker 3: great venues to attend and to play, they're the ones
23:40
Speaker 3: that seem to you know, get cold first and hit
23:43
Speaker 3: the hardest. And you know, it's and the live music
23:47
Speaker 3: scene is it's thriving, it's it's it's really good to
23:51
Speaker 3: see just how many people you know are still out there.
23:54
Speaker 2: Doing live music.
23:55
Speaker 3: And it's I just hope that it sustains itself in
23:58
Speaker 3: the sense that you know, that doesn't get to the
24:00
Speaker 3: point where venues can't afford to stay opens, struggled to
24:05
Speaker 3: find somewhere to play, and people, you know, there's signed
24:08
Speaker 3: that you know, the overpriced beer is just too much.
24:10
Speaker 1: And yeah, well, I mean again, I probably don't get
24:14
Speaker 1: out that much these day. It's just because other things
24:17
Speaker 1: to do. But certainly, growing up, the live music environment
24:21
Speaker 1: was kind of where you met your tribe. Oh absolutely,
24:24
Speaker 1: ran and stuff, social sort of setting for that kind
24:28
Speaker 1: of stuff.
24:28
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, well, and you know it's unfortunately.
24:32
Speaker 3: I mean I always had gigs every weekend covering him
24:35
Speaker 3: for the magazine, which is great, and I play too,
24:38
Speaker 3: but I mean I don't go out. I can go
24:39
Speaker 3: out and have two or three drinks and be fine,
24:41
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, I finally got to that stage
24:43
Speaker 3: in my life where you know, that's okay young me.
24:45
Speaker 2: Though I wouldn't have a bar of that.
24:47
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
24:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was deeper that I remember. You could
24:50
Speaker 2: go out with twenty bucks and come home with more
24:52
Speaker 2: money than you went out with, you know.
24:53
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Well, we find the same The recovery from
24:57
Speaker 1: a big night out is counting days rather than our.
25:01
Speaker 3: Oh I recover from minor surgery quicker than a hangover.
25:04
Speaker 3: I always say it's crazy, but yeah, I and I
25:08
Speaker 3: just don't find the desire, which is good nine think
25:10
Speaker 3: to you know, obviously a female, I would like to
25:12
Speaker 3: be able to leave when I want to be in
25:14
Speaker 3: control of the situation. And it's the safe thing too,
25:17
Speaker 3: which you know, you get older, a bit wiser, and
25:19
Speaker 3: I've got two girls too, which I'm trying to instill
25:21
Speaker 3: that into, which.
25:23
Speaker 1: Is we actually see some of the older fans still
25:27
Speaker 1: getting a bit excited moshing and we had a couple
25:31
Speaker 1: of guys well injured themselves as a result of that.
25:34
Speaker 1: So you can't you're not as you're not back.
25:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
25:40
Speaker 3: It's we're not twenty something anymore. And we bounce off,
25:44
Speaker 3: don't bounce off the floor. Are it hurts absolutely? And
25:50
Speaker 3: you guys have got some new music coming out which
25:52
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that we would chat again coming
25:55
Speaker 3: when you announce that, and so that will be obviously
25:58
Speaker 3: after you've done your little mini tour.
26:00
Speaker 1: I think I think probably early first quarter next year,
26:02
Speaker 1: just by the time we finished the writing of everything
26:05
Speaker 1: and then going into a studio and finishing it, we've done.
26:09
Speaker 1: We've got high quality Dowmos because again you can go
26:11
Speaker 1: into Eli's studio, our drummer studio and record really great
26:18
Speaker 1: sounds at not much cost. So you know, we probably
26:21
Speaker 1: will go on to another studio to actually record the
26:25
Speaker 1: album and get it mixed.
26:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, nice, and then with her after that, more
26:30
Speaker 3: tours planned for the Yeah, we'll just.
26:33
Speaker 1: Once the album's out, we'll tour. We are releasing this
26:36
Speaker 1: is this, which is when it came out twenty four
26:40
Speaker 1: came out only on CD. We are releasing a vinyl
26:43
Speaker 1: version for this next tour, so excellent getting vinyl sort
26:48
Speaker 1: of sort of at the moment. It'll probably a double
26:51
Speaker 1: album because you can't fit. If you try and put
26:55
Speaker 1: too much on a side of an album in vinyl,
26:58
Speaker 1: you kind of don't get the great sound CALLI will
27:00
Speaker 1: probably a double album, but with some rare tracks and
27:05
Speaker 1: maybe some live tracks included. So yeah, we're looking forward.
27:08
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:08
Speaker 3: I love the revival of vinyl because I mean, on
27:11
Speaker 3: a good sound system, but it sounds better.
27:12
Speaker 2: It does to me.
27:14
Speaker 1: I like the fact that when you buy a record
27:16
Speaker 1: you get something that's.
27:17
Speaker 2: No true physical that you can hold on to.
27:20
Speaker 3: This conversation with another artist for a few weeks back
27:22
Speaker 3: in you know, I remember like opening the cover and
27:24
Speaker 3: taking it out and looking at the lyrics and even
27:26
Speaker 3: just the smell of like a new album.
27:28
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean when when it all just comes
27:30
Speaker 1: on Spotify or some streaming platforms.
27:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you feel ripped. It's like what have I
27:36
Speaker 2: paid for? Really?
27:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the younger crowd is starting to get back.
27:40
Speaker 2: Into vinyl and oh they absolutely and even cassettes. You know.
27:43
Speaker 3: I was at a screen theater gig there in a
27:45
Speaker 3: few weeks back and they got the sets out and
27:47
Speaker 3: which is really cool. And I've seen a couple of
27:49
Speaker 3: other bands do it. So again, that's some just a
27:51
Speaker 3: nostalgia things.
27:52
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, because I would have thought cassettes you'd
27:54
Speaker 1: struggle to find a cassette player.
27:56
Speaker 2: That probably.
27:58
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's still some floating aroun like when Sony Walk,
28:01
Speaker 3: when I had I cast that one for ages, I
28:03
Speaker 3: found my Discman, those things are worth a fortune' I'm like, wow, yeah,
28:09
Speaker 3: I know. I remember my youngest when she was little,
28:11
Speaker 3: she goes, Mummy, what's the cassette?
28:13
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh god, scary, scary. Yeah.
28:18
Speaker 3: Well, look, thank you, as I said, for coming and
28:20
Speaker 3: chatting with us and no doubt we will chat again
28:22
Speaker 3: in the coming future. When you got the album in
28:25
Speaker 3: next year and bring on October.
28:28
Speaker 2: I'm much looking forward to it.
28:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking forward to it.
28:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely see then. Excellent