Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Steve Bethke, Vice President Solution Developer Market at Mayo Clinic Platform
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- 1:27This is Laura Dierda
- 1:29with the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:31podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 1:33Steve Bethke,
- 1:35vice president of solutions develop
- 1:39a market at Mayo Clinic Platform. Steve, it's
- 1:41a pleasure to have you on the podcast
- 1:43today.
- 1:44Great to be here. Thanks.
- 1:45Now I'm really looking forward to our discussion
- 1:47because I know Mayo Clinic Platform just is
- 1:50on the forefront of so much of what's
- 1:51happening in the digital health space.
- 1:54Certainly got a lot happening with data and
- 1:56artificial intelligence and really working towards making health
- 2:00care more accessible and, more precise for patients.
- 2:03But before we dive into our discussion, can
- 2:06you tell me a little bit more about
- 2:07yourself and your background?
- 2:09Yeah. Absolutely.
- 2:11Early in my career, I spent time in
- 2:13technology companies, got an MBA,
- 2:16and then really picked up my head and
- 2:17said, okay. What I wanna do with my
- 2:19life and decided health care? So I spent
- 2:22my career
- 2:23most of my career in healthcare,
- 2:26really interesting problems to solve, interesting market and
- 2:29great and good.
- 2:31We spend a lot of time doing the
- 2:33things we do,
- 2:35so I'm really excited to be in healthcare
- 2:37where it matters.
- 2:39I spent some time at the enterprise as
- 2:41executive
- 2:42at GE and Optum, but really
- 2:45the last decade as an operator in private
- 2:48equity or venture capital backed growth stage companies.
- 2:51And I joined Mayo Clinic Platform about 3
- 2:53years ago
- 2:54and run the solution developer market.
- 2:58Well, that's great to hear. And, you know,
- 2:59really, it sounds like a fascinating position to
- 3:01be in. Based on your role,
- 3:04at Mayo Clinic Platform, what are some of
- 3:06the opportunities and headwinds that you have your
- 3:08eye on right now?
- 3:10It's a great question.
- 3:11At the broadest level,
- 3:14there's really an opportunity to leverage platform thinking
- 3:17and business models to drive innovation and support
- 3:20health care providers.
- 3:22So we've all seen how platforms have really
- 3:25been changing the world around us. So how
- 3:27can Mayo Clinic
- 3:29leverage platform thinking and business models
- 3:32to improve healthcare,
- 3:34to drive innovation,
- 3:35support and enhance the workflow of care teams
- 3:38and to extend the world class care
- 3:40that's already provided by Mayo Clinic to patients
- 3:43around the world.
- 3:45So that's at a high level. Now
- 3:48focusing in a bit,
- 3:50what does that mean? And so really there's
- 3:52a terrific opportunity to unlock
- 3:54and expedite innovation for solution developers
- 3:58so they can drive value and empower
- 4:01healthcare providers.
- 4:03So let me sort of step back for
- 4:05a second. What is a solution developer?
- 4:07So this could be
- 4:09a digital health company,
- 4:11a device company,
- 4:13a pharma company, really it's anyone building AI
- 4:16or data centric solutions.
- 4:19And and maybe I'll take you through an
- 4:21example of some of the challenges that solution
- 4:25developers really have.
- 4:27And and so let's say I'm a solution
- 4:28developer and I have a really good idea
- 4:30to support health care providers.
- 4:32Hey. I wanna teach a computer
- 4:34how to read an EKG
- 4:36to recognize low ejection fraction, or
- 4:39I wanna be able to predict risk of
- 4:41readmission or risk of colon cancer.
- 4:45What do I need to do to accomplish
- 4:46this? So there's a lot of challenges ahead
- 4:49for me.
- 4:50The first is
- 4:52I need data. I need high quality,
- 4:55comprehensive,
- 4:56representative
- 4:57data that's de identified
- 4:59and can be used to build a solution.
- 5:02I need compute data science tools in an
- 5:04environment to do the discovery and development.
- 5:08And then once I go through all that,
- 5:11and I built the model, then I need
- 5:14to validate it. How does it perform?
- 5:17Sensitivity,
- 5:18specificity,
- 5:18bias, and then you see, etcetera.
- 5:22And and once I've done that, I've taken
- 5:24a done a ton of work and taken
- 5:26a huge step forward, but, really, I've just
- 5:29begun
- 5:30because now I have to deploy my solution
- 5:32into workflow,
- 5:33which we all know is very challenging. And
- 5:36and I'm not even done yet because now
- 5:38I have to commercialize and drive adoption.
- 5:40Right? And obviously, these things are are challenging
- 5:44and it creates
- 5:46significant
- 5:48challenges for the solution developer
- 5:50moving forward. And so these are really the
- 5:53challenges
- 5:54we set out to solve.
- 5:56A little more detail,
- 5:58we have 2 programs, Mayo Clinic Platform has
- 6:012 programs
- 6:03that allows us to meet solution developers where
- 6:05they are in their lifecycle. So first is
- 6:07Accelerate.
- 6:09Help tech start ups are really key to
- 6:12sparking innovation, so we've designed the Accelerate program
- 6:15to help early stage companies advance their solution
- 6:19and get ready to go to market. And
- 6:21then we have Solution Studio Program, which provides
- 6:24capabilities for the challenges I listed before,
- 6:28data, tools for development, validation, deployment and adoption.
- 6:33And these are really for more mature companies,
- 6:35either
- 6:36ready to go to market or
- 6:39possibly already in the market.
- 6:42So appreciate the time. These are really the
- 6:442 programs that we can solve for reuse
- 6:47to solve for many of the challenges
- 6:49faced by solution developers
- 6:52and and are used to unlock
- 6:54and expedite
- 6:55innovation.
- 6:57That's fantastic to hear. And, you know, I
- 6:59can imagine that many of our listeners appreciate
- 7:03how much of a challenge it is to
- 7:05really
- 7:05stand up programs like that, have the high
- 7:08quality data that you were talking about,
- 7:10and really build into the workflows,
- 7:14everything that needs to be there to successfully,
- 7:18commercialize the company and then drive the adoption
- 7:20across the system wide. And, you know, I
- 7:23can imagine the technology
- 7:24piece of it is, one challenge, but then,
- 7:27the people piece of it is another. When
- 7:30you look at some of the different ways
- 7:31that you've been able to,
- 7:33you know, really tackle the challenges, whether it's
- 7:36on the data side or, you know, really
- 7:39getting people into that space where, you know,
- 7:42they're adopting the new technologies or or new
- 7:46functions,
- 7:47that need to occur in order to make
- 7:49sure that your projects are successful. How do
- 7:51you do that and and really have that
- 7:53culture of innovation
- 7:54across the board with Mayo Clinic Platform?
- 7:58Yeah. That's great.
- 7:59We we work with and so Mayo Clinic
- 8:02Platform connects
- 8:04then the solution developers
- 8:06to the health care providers.
- 8:08And we really provide
- 8:10value in a number of ways. 1, as
- 8:12we just talked about, the technology, the data,
- 8:16and capabilities that the solution developer needs, but
- 8:19then we make the connection to the healthcare
- 8:21provider.
- 8:23And so
- 8:24what we will do is actually go through
- 8:27a qualification
- 8:28process
- 8:29with the solution developer. And you can really
- 8:32think about this as
- 8:34transparency,
- 8:35providing transparency
- 8:36to the health care provider. And we can
- 8:37talk more about what this is.
- 8:40But you can think about it as a
- 8:43nutrition label
- 8:44that provides this transparency to the healthcare providers.
- 8:48And then we also have deploy capabilities
- 8:52and we mentioned that before. But it's a
- 8:54common
- 8:55technology. You can think about it as sort
- 8:57of endpoint
- 8:58last mile connectivity into the EMR for those
- 9:01workloads.
- 9:03So once
- 9:05a solution developer is on the Solution Studio
- 9:08program,
- 9:09They have the deploy capabilities, which is common
- 9:13technology
- 9:13infrastructure
- 9:14and they have qualification,
- 9:16which is provides transparency to healthcare providers.
- 9:20And these things are really important then to
- 9:23drive adoption determinations?
- 9:32What is the
- 9:37the determinations?
- 9:38What is the performance of the solution?
- 9:41And
- 9:42then I can also
- 9:45connect in with common infrastructure
- 9:47of Deploy. So these are two really valuable
- 9:50capabilities
- 9:51that
- 9:52we provide
- 9:53to solution developers that then drive adoption
- 9:57or ease adoption
- 9:59into the health
- 10:00health care provider side of the market.
- 10:03That's fascinating to hear. And thank you so
- 10:05much for digging one bit deeper. Now I'm
- 10:07wondering, how are you thinking about growth and
- 10:09adding value to the organization all overall? Where
- 10:11do you see things headed?
- 10:14Yeah. This is great. So you can think
- 10:15about Mayo Clinic platform as a 3 sided
- 10:18marketplace, and I mentioned some of the sides
- 10:20already solution developer and healthcare provider, but at
- 10:24the base is data.
- 10:26So we've created Mayo Clinic Platform Connect,
- 10:29which is a federated network of the world's
- 10:32leading medical centers enabling access to globally diverse
- 10:36eIdentified data. So this is very real. We've
- 10:39signed partnerships
- 10:40and are implementing
- 10:42with 8 of the world's leading health systems
- 10:45across 3 continents.
- 10:47We have Mercyhealth
- 10:49in UC Davis in
- 10:51the US,
- 10:52Albert Einstein
- 10:53in Brazil, University Health Network in Canada,
- 10:57Chiba Medical Center in Israel, Singh Health in
- 10:59Singapore, and Seoul National University in Seoul.
- 11:04So that is the base, you know, one
- 11:07side
- 11:08that provides data and that's again hugely important.
- 11:11The other two sides and we've talked a
- 11:13little bit about this is the connection
- 11:15between the solution developers on one side and
- 11:17the health care providers on the other.
- 11:20Obviously, healthcare providers are well healthcare providers and
- 11:23again solution developers are on the other side
- 11:26are digital health companies, device companies, pharma, anyone
- 11:30building AI or data centric solutions.
- 11:34And really, Mayo Clinic platform
- 11:37continues to grow each side of this marketplace,
- 11:40connect partners and data, solution developers building innovative
- 11:44solutions
- 11:45and health care providers leveraging those solutions. And
- 11:48then you really see the flywheel
- 11:51network effect
- 11:52start to come into play.
- 11:55Access to broad data drives innovation
- 11:58with solution developers, which drives value
- 12:02the health care provider side.
- 12:05That's great to hear. And, you know, that
- 12:06firewall can be so important and valuable once
- 12:08you have it going. But for organizations that
- 12:11are still at the early stages of developing
- 12:13a platform like this or or trying to
- 12:15get their organizations
- 12:17to,
- 12:18turn that corner to have that data to
- 12:21provide access overall,
- 12:23what's kind of the first step? What do
- 12:24you need to do, initially
- 12:26in order to make sure you've got
- 12:29that data, you've got the right investments in
- 12:31place to achieve that data and then move
- 12:34forward from there.
- 12:36Perfect. Yeah. This is this is really the
- 12:38generation
- 12:39of the 2 programs Mayo Clinic Platform,
- 12:43has created,
- 12:45right? So we're doing the hard work Mayo
- 12:48Clinic Platform is doing the hard work
- 12:50of creating that 3 sided
- 12:54marketplace. So we're going off and creating
- 12:57this data asset and the tools and technologies
- 13:01that solution developers and health care providers need
- 13:04to create and adopt
- 13:06innovative solutions. So as a solution developer,
- 13:11I now have access to 2 programs. If
- 13:14I'm an early stage solution developer and I
- 13:16really have a good idea,
- 13:18maybe I've
- 13:20had some initial
- 13:23funding, seed, etcetera,
- 13:25but I'm really early stage, then I can
- 13:28get access to Mayo Clinic Platform Accelerate.
- 13:30And that's fundamentally
- 13:32access to
- 13:34our product,
- 13:35Mayo Clinic Platform Discover that allows access to
- 13:39the compute and data that we talked about.
- 13:41So these companies can get on early stage
- 13:45companies can get on, get access to that
- 13:47data and start creating their MVP.
- 13:50We also support them with technical, clinical
- 13:54and administrative resources to
- 13:56help them think through the problem. So that's
- 13:59Accelerate and where they can start.
- 14:02If the solution developer is more mature, hey,
- 14:04I have a product, I have a solution,
- 14:04I understand what I want to do, then
- 14:20you know, those important capabilities and then access
- 14:22the healthcare provider.
- 14:24So we've really tried to create programs
- 14:27inside of Mayo Clinic platform that will meet
- 14:30the solution developers
- 14:32where they are in their lifecycle.
- 14:35That's, you know, really cool to hear and
- 14:37and definitely seems like a great opportunity to
- 14:40take advantage of some of the work, like
- 14:41you mentioned, that Mayo Clinic platform has done
- 14:43and really incorporate that into something meaningful for
- 14:46health systems across the country and worldwide.
- 14:49Now I'm wondering, you know, we talked a
- 14:52little bit about some of the different things
- 14:53that are important. Is there any other risks
- 14:55or investments that you see worth making this
- 14:57year, especially knowing that for a lot of
- 14:59hospitals and health systems, they still have tight
- 15:01margins,
- 15:02budgets are still, you know, somewhat challenging. So
- 15:05if they're limited in some of their options,
- 15:07what do you think is still something that
- 15:09they need to do or risk they need
- 15:10to take in order to,
- 15:12set themselves up for success going forward?
- 15:16Yeah. And so one one risk or challenge
- 15:18for them for health care providers is understanding
- 15:21all the solutions
- 15:22available
- 15:23to them.
- 15:24There there is a cacophony
- 15:27of solutions and they're bombarded. And as you
- 15:29said,
- 15:30they're under a great deal of pressure around
- 15:32margin,
- 15:34and they want to provide the best care
- 15:35they can for their patients. So
- 15:37how does the health care provider
- 15:40understand
- 15:41what these solutions are? Hey, AI is this
- 15:44incredible
- 15:45thing that's coming that can support healthcare providers,
- 15:49enable care teams, etcetera. But as a healthcare
- 15:52provider,
- 15:53I'm working on my day to day
- 15:56and I'm really
- 15:58battling,
- 15:59how do I understand
- 16:02what's real, what's not, what's going to provide
- 16:04value. And that's and to solve that problem,
- 16:08that's where,
- 16:10Mayo Clinic Platform really comes
- 16:12in inside the solution studio program includes
- 16:16a qualification
- 16:17process. So
- 16:19as we go through,
- 16:21we evaluate
- 16:22these solutions so we can provide transparency
- 16:24to end users.
- 16:26Again, you can think about this as a
- 16:27nutrition label
- 16:29so that the end users then can make
- 16:31informed decisions.
- 16:33The qualification
- 16:34process
- 16:35includes evaluation from teams of physicians, data scientists
- 16:38and AI experts.
- 16:40They look at a number of the criteria,
- 16:42for example, how
- 16:44does this solution perform mathematically, what's the evidence
- 16:47of claims,
- 16:48etcetera.
- 16:49And so
- 16:50given more information and transparency, health care providers
- 16:53can then make informed decisions,
- 16:57and adding this layer of transparency
- 17:00reduces the risk. Again,
- 17:02health care providers
- 17:04want to take advantage of all this innovation
- 17:07that's taking place in the market, but sorting
- 17:07through and understanding really what's going to
- 17:19Solution
- 17:20Studio, we provide them transparency so they can
- 17:22make better decisions.
- 17:25Thank you so much for going through that.
- 17:27I think, you know, it's always so powerful
- 17:28to have that type of clarity in a
- 17:31world where you're getting bombarded by so many
- 17:33different pitches and offers, and there's a lot
- 17:36of information out there. Things are changing so
- 17:38rapidly. It seems like a really great benefit
- 17:41to have that type of clarity in in
- 17:43cutting through some of the noise. Now before
- 17:45we wrap up our conversation,
- 17:47I'm wondering,
- 17:48would you talk to some of the best
- 17:50opportunities you see for growth in the future
- 17:52overall?
- 17:53What's really some of the things that you
- 17:54see coming down the pipe that are really
- 17:56exciting for you?
- 17:58Yes. So this is really the
- 18:01power, the
- 18:02joy of Mayo Clinic Platform model.
- 18:06The Mayo Clinic Platform builds programs and capabilities
- 18:10that we offer to solution developers, so they
- 18:13can drive innovation
- 18:15that supports healthcare providers.
- 18:17We empower
- 18:19and seek to empower all the brilliant innovators
- 18:22to do just that, innovate,
- 18:24right? And so, it's actually working. We're seeing
- 18:28solutions that are broad reaching
- 18:30from image based cancer detection and
- 18:34ambient listening to population
- 18:37health to
- 18:38administrative tasks like scheduling
- 18:40and task management.
- 18:42And so when you really think about this,
- 18:44solutions
- 18:46can help
- 18:47practitioners more quickly identify the most critical patients,
- 18:51prioritizing them for care.
- 18:54Solutions can automate or simplify
- 18:57administrative tasks, reducing burnout,
- 18:59allowing care teams to focus on decision making
- 19:02in the human element of care.
- 19:04They can
- 19:06treat more patients with the same resources, increasing
- 19:09capacity,
- 19:10enabling more time for patient care.
- 19:14And really simply
- 19:15they can help providers improve quality and
- 19:19decrease cost.
- 19:21So the Mayo Clinic platform and Accelerate and
- 19:24Solution Studios programs really provide these key capabilities
- 19:28and connections
- 19:30that allow solution developers then to unlock innovation
- 19:34that will benefit
- 19:35health care providers and, of course,
- 19:38most importantly, patients.
- 19:40Well, Steve, thank you so much for joining
- 19:42us on the podcast today. This has been
- 19:44such a fun conversation. I learned a lot,
- 19:46and I look forward to connecting with you
- 19:47again soon and seeing you at our health
- 19:49IT digital health at revenue cycle conference in
- 19:51October.
- 19:52Look forward to being there.