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- 0:01Speaker 1: Good morning, is anybody out there.
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- 0:29Speaker 1: You've heard off now we've got them all gay where
- 0:32Speaker 1: the action never stopped? Are you writing this down?
- 0:34Speaker 4: Now?
- 0:35Speaker 1: Something complete? This is chucking buck in the morning. You
- 0:40Speaker 1: people are beyond Let's go. Let's get the game on.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Big great Friday morning to every single one of you
- 1:01Speaker 3: except you, Dave.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Let's see you. I know what you did. Yeah, you've
- 1:05Speaker 1: been a real jerk lately.
- 1:06Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't hide.
- 1:10Speaker 1: I see you running. We forgave you for a while,
- 1:12Speaker 1: I know.
- 1:13Speaker 3: But everybody else though, I have a great weekend, everybody
- 1:16Speaker 3: but Dave. Yeah, good morning to you. Welcome into the
- 1:20Speaker 3: radio show here on this Friday. It has been a
- 1:22Speaker 3: speedy week. I mean we have zipped to Friday. We
- 1:25Speaker 3: may have even skipped a couple days along the way.
- 1:27Speaker 3: I'm not sure. But here we sit on the precipice
- 1:31Speaker 3: of yet another weekend here in glorious PNW, Seattle, Washington,
- 1:36Speaker 3: and we are ready to get things started here at
- 1:39Speaker 3: six o'clock on this Friday, to talk a little sports,
- 1:42Speaker 3: to get your juices going, four straight hours of it.
- 1:45Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, Ashley Ryan is here. My
- 1:48Speaker 3: name is Chuck powellin we welcome you in to our
- 1:51Speaker 3: little humble radio program. So welcome, come on in, Come on,
- 1:56Speaker 3: have a cup of tea. Yes, I have a scone.
- 1:58Speaker 3: They're handmade, delicious. I got up early this morning. That's
- 2:02Speaker 3: real butter in there.
- 2:04Speaker 1: I can't wait. That's not margarine. That's what you get
- 2:06Speaker 1: at this humble little radio show. Right.
- 2:08Speaker 3: I squeezed it straight from the teep, just a couple
- 2:11Speaker 3: of days ago, I did, I really did, Thanks Bessy.
- 2:14Speaker 1: That's care and love right there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's
- 2:17Speaker 1: my second main ingredient. Love. Yeah, care, Yes, that's second
- 2:22Speaker 1: and third. Yeah, butter, love then care. I mean that'll
- 2:26Speaker 1: make for good food.
- 2:28Speaker 3: All right, Well, what you've got a lot planned for
- 2:31Speaker 3: you here on this radio program today, four hours of it.
- 2:34Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, we'll go over stuff coming
- 2:37Speaker 3: up with what's on tap? Do you have anything big
- 2:40Speaker 3: for this weekend now that you don't have a softball
- 2:42Speaker 3: tournament to go to for once in your life.
- 2:44Speaker 5: Just wild Mom's Bunco night on Saturday.
- 2:48Speaker 3: What.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what.
- 2:50Speaker 3: It's interesting that you bring that up because in the community,
- 2:54Speaker 3: I came across a couple of people that I know
- 2:58Speaker 3: and they were headed to bunko. Oh yeah, and apparently
- 3:02Speaker 3: it's back or it never went away, but they were
- 3:07Speaker 3: holding it at.
- 3:08Speaker 1: One of the wineries in the area. Oh nice. And
- 3:11Speaker 1: so there's a bunco night.
- 3:12Speaker 3: And I remember when bunko was like extremely popular and
- 3:16Speaker 3: it felt like every woman in the world was doing it.
- 3:21Speaker 1: I mean to make it gender specific, but a woman.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I literally don't remember a single man ever playing. I
- 3:27Speaker 1: don't think they play. So I do remember.
- 3:29Speaker 3: It had to have been oh gosh, mid two thousands,
- 3:34Speaker 3: like two thousand and five ish around there, because the
- 3:38Speaker 3: two girls on my show were both playing, and it
- 3:42Speaker 3: felt like every woman in the world was playing bunko.
- 3:45Speaker 3: And then I think it went away and I don't
- 3:48Speaker 3: know why. Maybe it didn't, and now it seems like
- 3:51Speaker 3: it's back. So I want to know did it go away?
- 3:53Speaker 3: If so, why, And then third question for you why
- 3:56Speaker 3: is it coming back? If in fact it is coming back,
- 3:59Speaker 3: I don't.
- 3:59Speaker 4: Know if it went away because I didn't know anything
- 4:01Speaker 4: about Bunko. I didn't know it was a game until about.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Six or seven years ago. What. Yeah, I'd never heard
- 4:09Speaker 1: of it. Oh, it was a craze. Everybody was doing it.
- 4:12Speaker 4: And then I was watching Real Housewives of Orange County
- 4:15Speaker 4: and they had Bunko Nights. And that's where I kind
- 4:18Speaker 4: of was like, what is this crazy game they're playing.
- 4:20Speaker 4: They're all having a blast.
- 4:21Speaker 1: That's where it started.
- 4:22Speaker 4: And then we start. Yeah, so then we started having
- 4:25Speaker 4: a Bunco night. It was before COVID, I'm pretty sure.
- 4:29Speaker 4: And then we always have a theme.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Oh.
- 4:33Speaker 4: It started out as a Real Housewives Oh Go night
- 4:35Speaker 4: because that's where the inspiration for Bunco came. You had
- 4:38Speaker 4: to come dressed as your favorite real housewife. Oh, and
- 4:41Speaker 4: then there was a prize for the best costume.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Yeah. A lot of guys participating in it. Yeah, lots
- 4:45Speaker 1: of men, lots of changed. Yeah. This year's theme is
- 4:48Speaker 1: Deniman Diamonds. Oh. Oh so a minute. This year? Do
- 4:52Speaker 1: you do it once? Yeah? We do one big Bunko
- 4:54Speaker 1: Night once a year. Oh, Okay, where everybody goes all out.
- 4:57Speaker 5: So you got to get your costume, got it everything,
- 4:59Speaker 5: and it is tomorrow.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Okay. Denim and diamonds. Denimon diamonds.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Oh that was in my softball cloud. Fully forgot. I
- 5:10Speaker 4: had to get a costume. So I did that yesterday
- 5:12Speaker 4: while I sat in the back.
- 5:13Speaker 3: At least it's denim. I mean, I'm not sure you
- 5:16Speaker 3: got diamonds lining around.
- 5:19Speaker 1: I've tried.
- 5:19Speaker 5: I've found some dazzled jeans on Amazon. They should be
- 5:21Speaker 5: here today.
- 5:22Speaker 1: We'll see how they how they look, See how they shine? Yeah,
- 5:25Speaker 1: see how they shine? Oh how you sparkle and know
- 5:27Speaker 1: how you shine? Denim and diamonds.
- 5:33Speaker 3: I like it all right, So we're it's basically Canadian tuxedo.
- 5:38Speaker 5: Yes, basically, yes, pretty.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Much was diamonds right right, yeah, a be dazzled Canadian tuxedo.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Okay, the is the thought there? Okay, yeah, but you
- 5:48Speaker 1: know that'll be that'll be fun. Don't forget to accessorize.
- 5:51Speaker 3: That's really what's going to set you up, because everybody's
- 5:54Speaker 3: gonna have you need to have like a like a
- 5:56Speaker 3: denim scrunchy, not a diamond scrunch yeah. And then yeah,
- 6:01Speaker 3: so make sure that you're accessor rising diamonds diamond belt.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got denhim sandals. Uh, denim sandals. Uh oh,
- 6:10Speaker 1: that'll set your part. I just hope they fit.
- 6:12Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'll squeeze my feet in them.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Did you ask five iron hey?
- 6:16Speaker 3: Did you tell them hey, I'm a little short on
- 6:18Speaker 3: diamonds for the old diamonds and denim party out.
- 6:24Speaker 1: He's like, what's the occasion bunko? Yeah? Yeah? Or is
- 6:27Speaker 1: it a card game or is it a dice It's
- 6:28Speaker 1: a dice game, dice, dice game. Yeah.
- 6:31Speaker 4: Yeah, So you have to have groups of four, okay,
- 6:34Speaker 4: so you always have to have and it never works
- 6:36Speaker 4: out perfectly. Like I plan this every year and I
- 6:39Speaker 4: this year, we were going to go up to sixteen people.
- 6:42Speaker 4: Sure enough, four people, Well we were on short, just
- 6:46Speaker 4: like three people dropped out. Keep expanding your tournament, Well,
- 6:49Speaker 4: I thought, because there's you know, there's more people that
- 6:51Speaker 4: want to play. I thought, that'll be fine, we can
- 6:52Speaker 4: add another three people dropped out, so which I hadn't
- 6:56Speaker 4: filled the fourth, the final sixteenth spot. Anyway, I was like, okay, well,
- 7:00Speaker 4: now three people have dropped out, like I suspected, we're
- 7:02Speaker 4: down to twelve now we've got one on who's a maybe,
- 7:05Speaker 4: and just like, I'm sure what happens every year, we're
- 7:07Speaker 4: gonna be one short and have to.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Scramble, Oh jeez before tomorrow. Well, I would think five Iron,
- 7:12Speaker 3: a good husband would be the fill in.
- 7:15Speaker 5: No, Palmer the Great has been the filling before.
- 7:17Speaker 4: And she really wants to do it, and I keep
- 7:19Speaker 4: telling her no, five Iron seems like he wants to
- 7:22Speaker 4: just go do nothing.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Well, of course, yeah, so and he's.
- 7:25Speaker 4: Like wait, He's like, I got to go watch the kid,
- 7:28Speaker 4: and I was like, yes, you are taking her somewhere
- 7:30Speaker 4: away from our house.
- 7:31Speaker 3: He'd rather go work on the seventeenth Green with a
- 7:34Speaker 3: pair of scissors. You stick around Bunco night. All right,
- 7:37Speaker 3: Well we'll have fun.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Thank you. What about you? Any fun exciting things this weekend?
- 7:42Speaker 1: All sorts of stuff, a lot of illegal drugs. Nice,
- 7:45Speaker 1: Yeah you're back into that. Yeah, yep, it's time.
- 7:48Speaker 5: Well I think I thought so, but I'm glad you
- 7:50Speaker 5: finally figured it out.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Well, welcome into the show. Now, I'm probably gonna spend
- 7:54Speaker 3: the weekend trying to figure out how to bring the
- 7:57Speaker 3: Major League Baseball Players Association and the owners together on
- 8:01Speaker 3: a deal.
- 8:01Speaker 5: Now, that is a worthwhile way to spend your weekend.
- 8:04Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to think ahead. I don't want
- 8:06Speaker 3: to see some sort of labor stoppage. The last time
- 8:09Speaker 3: they tried to push through a salary cap in Major
- 8:11Speaker 3: League Baseball, we lost seven and a half months of baseball.
- 8:15Speaker 3: We lost a World Series for the first time ever.
- 8:18Speaker 3: So I've been warning you for a little while to
- 8:21Speaker 3: brace yourselves. This could be the biggest, most significant, most
- 8:25Speaker 3: uncomfortable labor negotiation in the history of a very tormented
- 8:31Speaker 3: relationship between Major League Baseball players and owners. I mean
- 8:35Speaker 3: kind of unlike anything else, not just in sports, but
- 8:39Speaker 3: in life, like the Union of Major League Baseball. You
- 8:42Speaker 3: wouldn't think this. You think it'd be some steel workers
- 8:45Speaker 3: or some truckers. Nope, the strongest union in America is
- 8:49Speaker 3: the Major League Baseball Players Association.
- 8:52Speaker 1: It has never been broken, not in the biggest areas
- 8:55Speaker 1: of life.
- 8:56Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's been forced to negotiate, it's been
- 8:58Speaker 3: forced to budget, it's been forced to come down, but
- 9:01Speaker 3: they typically win.
- 9:03Speaker 1: And so here we get set for another round of it. Yep.
- 9:07Speaker 3: The climate, the climate, the Collective Bargaining Agreement almost said,
- 9:11Speaker 3: the Climate Pledge agreement.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Well, both equally important. H huh.
- 9:14Speaker 3: The collective bargaining agreement expires at the end of this
- 9:17Speaker 3: year and the next one. Oh, it's going to be
- 9:21Speaker 3: a doozy as and we need to brace ourselves for now.
- 9:25Speaker 3: As I said yesterday, I'm going to give all parties
- 9:28Speaker 3: a little bit of credit here. I mean, usually these
- 9:31Speaker 3: things they wait until if there's a midnight hour, they
- 9:34Speaker 3: wait till eleven fifty seven fifty before they start even negotiating,
- 9:39Speaker 3: because I guess that works in business. I don't know,
- 9:42Speaker 3: doesn't seem to make players panic, and I don't think
- 9:46Speaker 3: today's players are susceptible to panic. And this is where
- 9:50Speaker 3: the Major League Baseball owners really have their work cut
- 9:53Speaker 3: out for them, because pretty much everybody in the league
- 9:57Speaker 3: is a millionaire. Like even the last guy on your
- 10:00Speaker 3: bench is a millionaire. Yeah, and so what so if
- 10:05Speaker 3: they are responsible at all with their money, and I'm
- 10:08Speaker 3: sure there are a couple of I'm sure there are
- 10:11Speaker 3: a few. I'm sure there are guys making thirty five
- 10:13Speaker 3: million dollars that are probably living paycheck to paycheck. Those
- 10:17Speaker 3: are called idiots.
- 10:19Speaker 2: But you know, I do believe that they're you know,
- 10:23Speaker 2: they're gonna be a few of those, but not enough.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Like in the past. You know, even though Major League
- 10:29Speaker 3: Baseball players made a lot of money, still there was this, well,
- 10:33Speaker 3: I can't go I even though I make a lot
- 10:35Speaker 3: of money, I got a really high house payment, or
- 10:37Speaker 3: I got really I have three cars, or you know,
- 10:41Speaker 3: my wife is a lot prettier than I probably would
- 10:45Speaker 3: have gotten without money.
- 10:46Speaker 1: She needs a lot of denim and diavs. Yeah, and she.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Needs denim and diamonds for this weekend. And so no,
- 10:53Speaker 3: my kids are in ivy league school whatever. Yeah, And
- 10:57Speaker 3: so that's something that they own could use to their advantage.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And they still always lost in these negotiations, and so.
- 11:06Speaker 1: They're not really going to have that anymore. I mean,
- 11:09Speaker 1: what are you going to do?
- 11:11Speaker 3: I mean, there are a couple of players who are
- 11:12Speaker 3: millionaires on the Mariners who still live together for goodness sake.
- 11:16Speaker 3: This is how more responsible they are with their riches
- 11:19Speaker 3: until they really get their big payday. And so this
- 11:23Speaker 3: is what the owners are up against. That Yeah, you
- 11:26Speaker 3: can lock them out, but they're not gonna be scrimping
- 11:30Speaker 3: for money in the couch cushions so they can afford Subway.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Right now, we're good. We're set.
- 11:37Speaker 3: And if there are a couple that aren't set, there
- 11:39Speaker 3: are some guys that make so much money they're like,
- 11:41Speaker 3: here you go, here's a little loaner. As a matter
- 11:43Speaker 3: of fact, just take it as a gift. I'm Aaron judge.
- 11:46Speaker 3: My teeth are fixed and I'm still making hand over fist,
- 11:49Speaker 3: Like what else do I have to spend it on?
- 11:52Speaker 3: And so I from that standpoint, it would be more
- 11:56Speaker 3: difficult than ever to try to get something that the
- 11:59Speaker 3: players associated has bristled at. More than bristled at. I mean,
- 12:02Speaker 3: they've come out swinging. We are never going to have
- 12:06Speaker 3: a salary cap in this league. It's why they don't
- 12:08Speaker 3: have one. Why the NFL has one, the NBA has one,
- 12:11Speaker 3: the NHL has one, and yet Major League Baseball still
- 12:15Speaker 3: does not have a salary cap to this day.
- 12:18Speaker 1: And so this is.
- 12:19Speaker 3: What the owner is going to try to push forward
- 12:22Speaker 3: between now and the start of next season. And the
- 12:27Speaker 3: last time they tried to push it forward, we missed
- 12:30Speaker 3: an entire practically an entire baseball season. So this is scary.
- 12:34Speaker 3: We're heading into scary grounds. And now baseball players are
- 12:38Speaker 3: richer than ever and probably are not as affected by
- 12:42Speaker 3: a lockout as they would have been in the past,
- 12:44Speaker 3: or as they definitely have been in the past. So
- 12:48Speaker 3: why is this different? How could there possibly be a resolution?
- 12:53Speaker 3: Why would Rob Manford and the owners think they stood
- 12:56Speaker 3: a chance in all of this? And I know people
- 12:59Speaker 3: will last when they hear this. I've heard people laugh.
- 13:03Speaker 3: I've heard MLB experts on our radio station on other
- 13:07Speaker 3: shows laugh that this about the fact that this is
- 13:11Speaker 3: anything but the owners just trying to get more of
- 13:15Speaker 3: the pie. And certainly there's an element. I mean, there
- 13:19Speaker 3: is going to be a We're going to limit how
- 13:21Speaker 3: much players can make, how much teams can spin, and
- 13:27Speaker 3: yet we're not going to limit how much value our
- 13:30Speaker 3: organizations can go up. We're not going to cap ourselves.
- 13:34Speaker 3: So I'm not naive, I'm not gullible. I realize that
- 13:37Speaker 3: there's also Major League Baseball owners are saying, Man, look
- 13:41Speaker 3: how those NFL guys have it.
- 13:43Speaker 1: They don't even realize.
- 13:45Speaker 3: People don't even realize how much money that they're making
- 13:48Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and they only have to pay their
- 13:50Speaker 3: players a certain percentage. They know how much they no
- 13:53Speaker 3: matter what kind of windfall financially they come into, they
- 13:57Speaker 3: know when every year begins we only have to designate
- 14:01Speaker 3: this percentage of our earnings to the players, not even percentage.
- 14:06Speaker 3: We have to designate this amount of money to the players.
- 14:09Speaker 3: And so certainly I'm not naive to this. I know
- 14:14Speaker 3: that this is also Major League Baseball owners wanting to
- 14:18Speaker 3: get a little fatter themselves, and I don't doubt that
- 14:20Speaker 3: for a second. However, I have been saying this for
- 14:24Speaker 3: years on this radio show. We don't talk about it
- 14:27Speaker 3: a lot, but I've been saying this for years. I
- 14:31Speaker 3: don't think that this negotiation is about money. I think
- 14:36Speaker 3: this negotiation is about the health of the product. And
- 14:43Speaker 3: you would think man owners are making money. Values of
- 14:48Speaker 3: organizations are going up. Players are making all sorts of money.
- 14:52Speaker 3: Their contracts are the envy of sports. They get all
- 14:55Speaker 3: guaranteed deals. Not even NFL players get guaranteed deals, deals
- 15:00Speaker 3: paid to them into their forties when everybody knows that
- 15:04Speaker 3: they're not going to be good at the tail end
- 15:07Speaker 3: of their contracts. And yet they have such leverage over
- 15:10Speaker 3: the owners with this that they are still getting paid
- 15:14Speaker 3: into their forties tens of millions of dollars, even though
- 15:18Speaker 3: the owners know for the last two or three years
- 15:20Speaker 3: we're going to eat that because there's no way you're
- 15:22Speaker 3: going to be good at age forty one.
- 15:24Speaker 1: That's how that's the advantage.
- 15:26Speaker 3: And so certainly the players are making their money the owners,
- 15:30Speaker 3: So why would you risk that if everybody's doing well well,
- 15:34Speaker 3: Just like the NFL is bound and determined to go international,
- 15:39Speaker 3: go global, because they see another opportunity to grow their game,
- 15:43Speaker 3: to grow their income, to grow the popularity not just
- 15:47Speaker 3: on the domestic front, but cross the globe, and that
- 15:50Speaker 3: means even more money. And that's where major League Baseball
- 15:53Speaker 3: sits right now. We can't get to the popularity level
- 15:59Speaker 3: of the NFL well until we introduce some of the
- 16:03Speaker 3: things they've introduced, and it starts with a salary cap.
- 16:07Speaker 3: Here is the absolute truth about what a Major League
- 16:12Speaker 3: Baseball fan is in the year twenty twenty six. Okay,
- 16:17Speaker 3: they all feel cheated.
- 16:20Speaker 1: That's a pretty accurate way to put it. And it
- 16:22Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
- 16:22Speaker 3: It's not just Seattle, not just Seattle, but Seattle Mariner
- 16:26Speaker 3: fans are among the more ridiculous ones. Spend, spend spin
- 16:33Speaker 3: Why is my owner not spending my Saint Louis fans?
- 16:36Speaker 3: I grew up with, I go home. That's all they
- 16:38Speaker 3: talk about cheap ass organization. That's the second most successful
- 16:43Speaker 3: franchise in the history of baseball in.
- 16:45Speaker 1: A dying market.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Not just from a baseball perspective, but they are one
- 16:50Speaker 3: of the few major metropolitan areas.
- 16:54Speaker 1: That is losing human beings in droves.
- 16:58Speaker 3: And yet my cardinal friends that I grew up with
- 17:02Speaker 3: fan friends that I grew up with, every time I'm
- 17:04Speaker 3: around them, we just are so cheap.
- 17:06Speaker 1: We won't spend money.
- 17:07Speaker 3: You are a small market club and you've known nothing
- 17:10Speaker 3: but success practically your entire lives, and they're still every
- 17:15Speaker 3: second of every day belly aching that my ownership for
- 17:19Speaker 3: my baseball team won't spend enough money.
- 17:22Speaker 1: And this is the art.
- 17:23Speaker 3: This is happening with Yankee fans who are watching the Dodgers.
- 17:28Speaker 1: The Dodgers spend three hundred and.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Forty more million dollars per year on their payroll than
- 17:34Speaker 3: the Miami Marlins three hundred and forty. So we have
- 17:39Speaker 3: a baseball fan base from coast to coast that believes
- 17:44Speaker 3: that the product is blatantly unfair and it cannot be overcome,
- 17:49Speaker 3: even though it consistently gets overcome.
- 17:53Speaker 2: There is more parody and major League Baseball. It is
- 17:56Speaker 2: a proven fact.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Than there is in the National Football League. The National
- 18:00Speaker 3: Football League, more teams consistently make the playoffs, the same
- 18:05Speaker 3: teams in the NFL than do Major League Baseball. We
- 18:08Speaker 3: have a couple of outliers. The Dodgers and the Yankees
- 18:11Speaker 3: are a couple of outliers. But the New York Mets
- 18:14Speaker 3: have proven over and over we can spend as much
- 18:17Speaker 3: as we want and we still fail at baseball. They're
- 18:21Speaker 3: in last place right now. Last I checked, the New
- 18:24Speaker 3: York Mets second highest pay roll in the sport. So
- 18:27Speaker 3: the point of the matter is that what baseball owner
- 18:31Speaker 3: is what Rob Manford have observed, and they are a
- 18:34Speaker 3: thousand percent right about this. It doesn't matter if we
- 18:38Speaker 3: have a good system or not. Our main audience, our customer,
- 18:44Speaker 3: thinks our product is unfair, doesn't.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Matter if they're right.
- 18:49Speaker 3: Our customers think our product is unfair. If a sandwich
- 18:56Speaker 3: shop ran that way, where every customer came in and said,
- 19:00Speaker 3: I can't believe you're charging one hundred dollars for a
- 19:03Speaker 3: sandwich and it's really only worth ten. This is really unfair,
- 19:07Speaker 3: how much business would they.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Get not a lot? They would not get a lot.
- 19:11Speaker 1: And so that to me is at the heart of this.
- 19:14Speaker 3: If we really want to grow our sport again, because
- 19:17Speaker 3: that's popular, it's only popular. It's wildly popular on the
- 19:21Speaker 3: local front, but it's not popular nationally. Want to know
- 19:24Speaker 3: why because the team that doesn't make the World Series,
- 19:27Speaker 3: Cleveland Guardians fans don't want to watch the Dodgers play
- 19:31Speaker 3: because of envy, correct because they believe it's unfair, so
- 19:35Speaker 3: they can't get national television audience. Therefore they can't grow
- 19:39Speaker 3: their television contract. Therefore they can't really cash in like
- 19:44Speaker 3: the National Football League does because they make money hand
- 19:47Speaker 3: over fist with their television deals. They have numerous of
- 19:51Speaker 3: them now, and so that's what this is going to
- 19:54Speaker 3: be about. It's about every Mariner fan that thinks that
- 19:58Speaker 3: the entire product is unfair and that the only reason
- 20:02Speaker 3: that they're not happy as a baseball fan is because
- 20:04Speaker 3: John Stanton won't spend this friggin money that's going on
- 20:09Speaker 3: in every market in Major League Baseball that's not the
- 20:12Speaker 3: Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Mets, and the
- 20:15Speaker 3: Mets fans are unhappy because they don't believe they have
- 20:18Speaker 3: anybody that knows how to spend all that money.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just spending it randomly.
- 20:22Speaker 3: So if you're running a business and your customers all
- 20:26Speaker 3: think that your business is unfair, and you're still popular,
- 20:30Speaker 3: you still are making great revenue, how would you change it?
- 20:36Speaker 2: What would you change about your sport? The thing that
- 20:40Speaker 2: needs to change the most.
- 20:41Speaker 3: About Major League Baseball is the perception of how the
- 20:45Speaker 3: league is run, the perception of fans so they can
- 20:48Speaker 3: get back to just rooting for their team and not
- 20:52Speaker 3: blaming every single shortcoming.
- 20:54Speaker 1: On whether or not the owner spends money that they
- 20:57Speaker 1: know they have. I know they've got more mind, and
- 21:01Speaker 1: they might, they might. I'm not saying John Stanton's not laughing.
- 21:07Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's not in his basement sitting on
- 21:09Speaker 3: a mountain of gold.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Bullyon and ha, I can't believe these fools keep paying
- 21:15Speaker 2: for bobbleheads. Maybe he's worth a trillion dollars through baseball,
- 21:20Speaker 2: I have no idea. Or maybe according to Stanton, I
- 21:25Speaker 2: barely make money off of this.
- 21:28Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but that's what he says.
- 21:31Speaker 3: I barely make money. I barely turn a profit off
- 21:35Speaker 3: of running this. It's a labor of love. And you
- 21:39Speaker 3: know you can laugh at that. In your car all
- 21:41Speaker 3: you want. But that's the argument on the other side.
- 21:44Speaker 3: And yet ninety percent of his fans thinks he's a
- 21:48Speaker 3: cheap miser who's costing them their happiness, and that that
- 21:53Speaker 3: kind of mindset has kept the Mariners from making the
- 21:56Speaker 3: World Series, thus has kept all of Seattle miserable throughout
- 22:00Speaker 3: the summer. That perception has to change, fans. I've never
- 22:06Speaker 3: been for a salary cap. I am now, never in
- 22:10Speaker 3: my life. I'm fifty four years old. I've been a
- 22:12Speaker 3: baseball fan since i was three years old. I've been
- 22:14Speaker 3: thinking this. I've been a sports talk show o since
- 22:17Speaker 3: I was nineteen years old, and never before have I
- 22:21Speaker 3: wanted or thought it was necessary for baseball to have
- 22:24Speaker 3: a salary cap.
- 22:25Speaker 1: I do now, and I've been saying it for years.
- 22:28Speaker 3: And the reason is because I, as a talk show
- 22:33Speaker 3: host and now on social media, realize the anger and
- 22:37Speaker 3: the appetite of the average baseball fan.
- 22:41Speaker 1: And when your.
- 22:41Speaker 3: Customers think it's unfair, we don't have a chance. Whether
- 22:45Speaker 3: it's true or not. You have to change the perception.
- 22:48Speaker 3: You have a perception problem. And so that's what baseball
- 22:51Speaker 3: needs to be about. And I'm sure they're going to
- 22:53Speaker 3: make more money off of it. Don't get me wrong,
- 22:55Speaker 3: I'm sure they're going to make more money off of it.
- 22:57Speaker 3: But after all heart of it, this time around, unlike
- 23:00Speaker 3: the past, they know that a lockout is not gonna
- 23:03Speaker 3: lead the players to poverty. What they're gonna try to
- 23:07Speaker 3: do with them is reason with them for the good
- 23:10Speaker 3: of the game, for the good of the growth of
- 23:13Speaker 3: the game. You guys have to change the way you
- 23:17Speaker 3: think about this salary cap. So we're going to adjust it.
- 23:21Speaker 3: We're gonna give you more money. We're going to rise
- 23:24Speaker 3: the floor as well as shrink the ceiling, and we're
- 23:27Speaker 3: going to make our fans believe in the product again
- 23:32Speaker 3: and that they have a fair shot. They have their
- 23:35Speaker 3: work cut out for them to pull this off against
- 23:37Speaker 3: the Major League Baseball Players Association. But I think it's
- 23:41Speaker 3: a worthwhile endeavor. I think it needs to be done, frankly,
- 23:45Speaker 3: and it's taken me fifty some years to arrive at
- 23:48Speaker 3: that conclusion.
- 23:49Speaker 5: I absolutely think it needs to be done.
- 23:51Speaker 4: And just the way you put it, that it is
- 23:53Speaker 4: it's all about the product and the growth of the
- 23:55Speaker 4: product and the longngevity of the product. If you want,
- 23:58Speaker 4: I mean the Dodgers have been dominating for what three
- 24:01Speaker 4: years ten? Well, but like, yeah, but just in the
- 24:05Speaker 4: last where that all of a sudden, now things have
- 24:07Speaker 4: gotten out of control with their salary cap.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Yeah, they're even kicking into They're even kicking money into
- 24:12Speaker 3: the future, which I think will also change with this
- 24:14Speaker 3: collective bargain.
- 24:15Speaker 1: And people are already angry.
- 24:17Speaker 3: And frankly, and I'm gonna go over if I say this.
- 24:20Speaker 3: I think baseball everybody was like, how could you let
- 24:23Speaker 3: them defer payments? This is why they knew they were
- 24:26Speaker 3: going to have this argument someday. They wanted the Dodgers
- 24:29Speaker 3: to run them up. They wanted to use them as
- 24:31Speaker 3: a symbol of c We've got to shrink this. Nobody
- 24:35Speaker 3: thinks they have a shot. No fan and any other
- 24:37Speaker 3: fan base thinks they have a shot against the Dodgers, because.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Look what they're doing. Look what they're doing.
- 24:41Speaker 3: They're using them as the example for why this has
- 24:44Speaker 3: to be done. An example anyway, but the ultimate example
- 24:48Speaker 3: for why it needs to be done.
- 24:49Speaker 1: And so that's where I'm at. I think it needs
- 24:52Speaker 1: to be done. I really do.
- 24:53Speaker 3: And I didn't know if I'd ever arrive at that conclusion.
- 24:57Speaker 3: But I do think it's time. I don't want to
- 24:59Speaker 3: miss seven and a half months. I don't want to
- 25:01Speaker 3: miss one month. But I'm willing to miss a little
- 25:04Speaker 3: bit of time for the owners to get their way
- 25:06Speaker 3: on this, because I do believe it's better for the game,
- 25:10Speaker 3: for the league, and for our enjoyment of the league.
- 25:13Speaker 1: I agree. All right, let's find out what's on tap?
- 25:18Speaker 1: What's on tep? What's ontep? All right?
- 25:22Speaker 3: Diamondbacks at Mariners tonight. They start a brand new series
- 25:25Speaker 3: at home. It'll be Zach Gallen versus George Kirby. College
- 25:29Speaker 3: baseball tournament is getting underway today with the regionals. The
- 25:33Speaker 3: Koogs will be in action. They made the field of
- 25:35Speaker 3: sixty four. They're going to be down in Eugene, but
- 25:38Speaker 3: taking on the Beavers. I know that's weird be in Eugene,
- 25:42Speaker 3: but they're facing Oregon State today at noon.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Softball World Series, I mean, you want to talk about
- 25:49Speaker 1: a great game, Oh geez.
- 25:52Speaker 3: I turned it off the Thunder and the Spurs because
- 25:54Speaker 3: it was lopsided and I watched me some Nebraska Arkansas
- 25:58Speaker 3: college softball is fantastic. I don't feel that way about
- 26:03Speaker 3: women's college basketball. I just don't I'm sorry. I don't
- 26:06Speaker 3: think it's that good of a product, but college softball
- 26:10Speaker 3: is a fantastic game. And my goodness, did Nebraska and
- 26:14Speaker 3: Arkansas give us a good one last night with Nebraska winning.
- 26:18Speaker 3: Storm Toronto will play on Saturday. Toronto, one of those
- 26:21Speaker 3: expansion franchises. The Spurs did force a game seven against
- 26:25Speaker 3: the Oklahoma City Thunder. It'll be played tomorrow in Oklahoma.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Spencer Hawsell join us to talk about it at nine.
- 26:32Speaker 3: NBA lottery reform was also introduced, so we got a
- 26:35Speaker 3: lot of things to discuss. At the Collective Bargaining Table.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Stanley Cup Playoffs Montreal at Carolina tonight. The Hurricanes can
- 26:43Speaker 3: wrap up the series in advance to the Stanley Cup
- 26:46Speaker 3: Finals against Las Vegas. With a win, they're up three
- 26:48Speaker 3: to one. Carolina is going eleven and one so far
- 26:51Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And we'll talk some Seahawks football with
- 26:54Speaker 3: Greg Bell today at seven oh five plus World Cup
- 26:58Speaker 3: two weeks away.
- 26:59Speaker 1: Get ready for World Cup in two weeks coming up next.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Though we haven't done this all week long, it's time
- 27:05Speaker 3: for us to get nosy. It's time to talk about
- 27:08Speaker 3: O PQ on Sports Radio ninety three point.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Three kJ r f M. Yeah.
- 27:15Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, shame on you.
- 27:19Speaker 1: I feel dirty.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but we have an audience with an appetite,
- 27:24Speaker 3: that's the truth. So we feed them. We feed them,
- 27:27Speaker 3: even though it's probably not an un it's probably not
- 27:30Speaker 3: a uh a real healthy pattern. Yeah, we're we're under
- 27:35Speaker 3: right now.
- 27:35Speaker 4: Shouldn't be just continuously giving them other people's quarterbacks.
- 27:40Speaker 1: But if they want it, yep, yep.
- 27:41Speaker 3: If you want to hear news about other people's quarterbacks,
- 27:44Speaker 3: we're gonna give it to you. Right.
- 27:45Speaker 1: So here we go.
- 27:46Speaker 3: We're down with OPQ here on Chuck and Buck in
- 27:49Speaker 3: the mornings. And there are some stories going around and
- 27:52Speaker 3: kind of like they are the least sexy quarterback situations
- 27:57Speaker 3: in the National Football League, and yet they are very intriguing.
- 28:02Speaker 3: And I'll start with the Arizona Cardinals. Jacoby Brissett is
- 28:06Speaker 3: holding out and apparently is committed to holding out, and
- 28:10Speaker 3: he's not looking to break the bank. He's not like, hey,
- 28:12Speaker 3: I'm not looking for Dak Prescott money. I'm a little
- 28:16Speaker 3: bit self aware, but I am a starting quarterback in
- 28:18Speaker 3: the league. And Sam Darnold last year there were questions
- 28:22Speaker 3: as to whether or not he was going to be
- 28:25Speaker 3: a long term start, and he got like thirty five
- 28:27Speaker 3: million dollars. So I think I proved this year. I'm
- 28:31Speaker 3: at least a starting quarterback. I want like thirty thirty
- 28:34Speaker 3: five million dollars. And the cardinal's reaction was a very
- 28:37Speaker 3: solemn one. Sound a little bit.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Like this good one, Jacoby. Yeah, yeah, it is a
- 28:48Speaker 1: good one. That is a lot of money that.
- 28:51Speaker 3: No, yeah, maybe they do it. I don't know they
- 28:54Speaker 3: would be dumb to do it.
- 28:55Speaker 1: I was gonna say they shouldn't.
- 28:56Speaker 3: You are in a rebuilding mode. And my response to
- 28:59Speaker 3: it is, dude, we picked up Gardner Minshew in case
- 29:03Speaker 3: you pulled this, we can.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Go with a veteran.
- 29:06Speaker 3: But we also drafted Carson Beck. So this year is
- 29:10Speaker 3: really about a rebuild. And if we can catch lightning
- 29:15Speaker 3: in the in a bottle, I mean, we're not ruling
- 29:18Speaker 3: that possibility out. We kind of like our skill players.
- 29:23Speaker 3: Jeremiah loves really exciting, So maybe we could catch lightning
- 29:27Speaker 3: in the bottle. But we think we have a good
- 29:29Speaker 3: enough chance and the lightning in a bottle category with
- 29:32Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew, as we do with you, so and that's
- 29:37Speaker 3: still a long shot. What we really realistically need to
- 29:42Speaker 3: get accomplished this year is see what we have in
- 29:46Speaker 3: Carson Beck at some point during the year, because if
- 29:50Speaker 3: we don't have a future quarterback in Carson Beck, then
- 29:54Speaker 3: we want to lose as many games as possible so.
- 29:57Speaker 1: That we have a high draft pick.
- 29:59Speaker 3: And we do and our future quarterback in the twenty
- 30:02Speaker 3: twenty seven draft. That's the season, and we're not going
- 30:05Speaker 3: to spend thirty million dollars on a guy that might
- 30:07Speaker 3: ruin that. Yeah, exactly, If you're as good as you
- 30:12Speaker 3: think you are, you might get us a couple more
- 30:14Speaker 3: wins than we really want to have this year.
- 30:17Speaker 1: So no way.
- 30:19Speaker 3: I mean, we'd like to have you back just in
- 30:21Speaker 3: case we could catch lightning in a bottle. We do
- 30:23Speaker 3: think you're the best quarterback that we have, but we're
- 30:26Speaker 3: not paying you thirty million dollars to ruin our draft plans.
- 30:29Speaker 1: And they shouldn't. They definitely shouldn't.
- 30:31Speaker 4: I don't think I mean he has proven that he
- 30:34Speaker 4: can be a viable quarterback. I wouldn't say that he's
- 30:38Speaker 4: proven he should be a starter in the NFL.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Greed he's on the fringe. Yeah, he's on the fringe.
- 30:44Speaker 3: He's probably one of the thirty two best quarterbacks in
- 30:47Speaker 3: the world.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thirty five.
- 30:51Speaker 4: Yeah, say I'd say that, But I think I mean,
- 30:53Speaker 4: Sam Darnold went out and had a great season in
- 30:55Speaker 4: Minnesota before he got paid by the Seahawks.
- 30:57Speaker 5: Joeyt has not had a great season ever.
- 31:02Speaker 1: Yeah, uh so I think it's kind of laughable.
- 31:05Speaker 3: And and maybe and and the thing is is like
- 31:07Speaker 3: you're driving for thirty million dollars and all your and
- 31:11Speaker 3: that road ends at Backup Quarterback Exit, you know, you know,
- 31:15Speaker 3: take take exit five to back Up Quarterbackville because that's
- 31:19Speaker 3: where I.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Gotta believe it.
- 31:21Speaker 3: And but it is the Arizona Cardinals, and they are
- 31:24Speaker 3: pretty stupid.
- 31:24Speaker 1: I was gonna say, they're real dumb.
- 31:26Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you will get your money after all, why
- 31:29Speaker 3: not try it, I guess also in Minnesota, I mean
- 31:32Speaker 3: they really are. I mean, we don't see this a lot.
- 31:34Speaker 3: We hear NFL at coaches say, hey, it's an open camp,
- 31:39Speaker 3: you know, it's open competition. I don't think that's true
- 31:44Speaker 3: very often think it. I think they really know there's
- 31:47Speaker 3: a favorite always that going into it.
- 31:50Speaker 5: Unless the other person just comes out and wows them.
- 31:52Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you know, maybe maybe there is like one
- 31:55Speaker 3: per camp, like we do camp battles, like there's a
- 31:58Speaker 3: couple of safeties.
- 31:59Speaker 1: We don't who's the better one.
- 32:01Speaker 3: We're going to find out in training camp. I think
- 32:02Speaker 3: that happens, But at quarterback, I don't think it ever happens.
- 32:06Speaker 3: And I don't think that's happening here. I don't think
- 32:08Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings brought in Kyler Murray to sit him
- 32:12Speaker 3: or to be insurance for JJ McCarthy. I think they've
- 32:16Speaker 3: got a really frustrated football team that thinks that they punt.
- 32:20Speaker 3: They got rid of the quarterback that they were good
- 32:22Speaker 3: with and Sam Darnold. They've got an outstanding receiver who
- 32:26Speaker 3: believes that his prime of his career is being wasted
- 32:29Speaker 3: because the Vikings can't figure out their quarterback situation. And
- 32:32Speaker 3: I think Kyler Murray is there to try and soothe that.
- 32:39Speaker 3: And I don't know think there's any belief in JJ
- 32:41Speaker 3: McCarthy anymore. But in order to save the draft pick
- 32:45Speaker 3: of JJ McCarthy, because they did take him over bow Nicks,
- 32:49Speaker 3: in order to soothe that, they're presenting it like it's
- 32:53Speaker 3: going to be an open quarterback competition. I think they
- 32:55Speaker 3: already know Murray's back the starter. And I think they
- 32:58Speaker 3: already know we blew it with JJ McCarthy because for
- 33:02Speaker 3: that organization and that head coach who's supposed to be
- 33:07Speaker 3: some quarterback guru, right to have abandoned JJ McCarthy this
- 33:14Speaker 3: early in the process, I think they know it's kind
- 33:18Speaker 3: of a lost cause, or at least they feel that
- 33:20Speaker 3: it's a lost cause. So that to me, just cutting
- 33:23Speaker 3: through it talking about OPQ, I think that's what's going
- 33:25Speaker 3: on in Minnesota.
- 33:26Speaker 4: Yeah, And if they don't know that they blew it
- 33:28Speaker 4: with JJ McCarthy, then they are just living in denial
- 33:32Speaker 4: because they blew it with JJ McCarthy.
- 33:34Speaker 3: And I even think just from the standpoint of you
- 33:37Speaker 3: knew what you were getting, right, you knew you weren't
- 33:39Speaker 3: getting a finished product, and you had this little patience
- 33:42Speaker 3: with him.
- 33:42Speaker 4: It's surprising, Yeah, yeah, because it's not like they'd seen
- 33:45Speaker 4: some highlight reel of him just you know, dominating, throwing
- 33:49Speaker 4: eight touchdowns a game.
- 33:51Speaker 1: I mean, you saw exactly what he did. I threw
- 33:53Speaker 1: five times a game and we won a national championship
- 33:56Speaker 1: exactly all right.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Finally and quickly, I don't know if you saw the
- 34:01Speaker 3: new and improved C. J. Stroud but he went down
- 34:04Speaker 3: the Trevor Lawrence road. He got a haircut, Oh did he?
- 34:07Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 34:08Speaker 3: He had one of those like grown up adult moments,
- 34:11Speaker 3: and he looks good like Trevor Lawrence looks fantastic. And
- 34:14Speaker 3: it's a lesson to every young person out there. I
- 34:17Speaker 3: know you think your hair looks cool.
- 34:18Speaker 1: It doesn't. And I speak from experience. I thought my.
- 34:23Speaker 3: Long hair in my early twenties looked great, thought the
- 34:27Speaker 3: ladies loved it. I am embarrassed by the photos and
- 34:31Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, now that you look see how good you
- 34:34Speaker 3: look with short hair, You're going to live your entire
- 34:37Speaker 3: life embarrassed of the photos of you looking like an Afghan. Frankly,
- 34:42Speaker 3: you look like an af Gan.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Yeah you did?
- 34:44Speaker 3: You look like an Afghan, not a rug or a
- 34:48Speaker 3: you know, a dog? I mean yeah, yeah, like at
- 34:51Speaker 3: the dog right yeah? Yeah, yeah, no.
- 34:54Speaker 4: My parents used to have one and my dad would
- 34:57Speaker 4: drive in the corvette with the dog and people would.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Ask when the in the car with you.
- 35:01Speaker 3: That's what Trevor Lawrence looked like. He looked like an
- 35:03Speaker 3: Afghan hound. And now he looks like a really hand
- 35:06Speaker 3: I didn't even know he was that handsome. Yeah, because
- 35:08Speaker 3: he was so Afghan.
- 35:09Speaker 1: He like so Afghan hound Like, yeah, I mean he
- 35:13Speaker 1: threw me off. That's fair. I didn't realize that you
- 35:15Speaker 1: had that behind all of that. I haven't seen I
- 35:19Speaker 1: need to go look. Oh yeah, he looks great. Okay.
- 35:21Speaker 1: And c J. Stroud also was like, I'll look them
- 35:24Speaker 1: both up. And I do like the c J.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Strouds, Like, man, I was terrible last year and I
- 35:28Speaker 3: played scared at the end.
- 35:29Speaker 1: I'm getting rid of my hair. I think it was
- 35:33Speaker 1: the right move.
- 35:34Speaker 3: All right, Coming up next, we're going to have a
- 35:36Speaker 3: game seven and Adam Silver couldn't be more relieved.
- 35:39Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next.
- 35:40Speaker 3: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 35:53Speaker 1: You know when we.
- 35:54Speaker 3: Committed to Greg Bell three times this week talking Seahawks OTAs,
- 35:58Speaker 3: I was expecting a lot more powerful and information to break.
- 36:02Speaker 3: We've had two good conversations with him, two great conversations
- 36:05Speaker 3: with him this week.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Yeah. The ownership conversation yesterday too was very interesting. Yeah, yeah,
- 36:09Speaker 1: really interesting stuff.
- 36:10Speaker 3: And we of course we wouldn't have Greg on all
- 36:12Speaker 3: the time if we didn't think he was great.
- 36:14Speaker 1: That said, I wonder what we're going to talk about today.
- 36:21Speaker 3: So we're gonna have him on a seven o five
- 36:22Speaker 3: scheduling for Monday too, So that's a seven oh five
- 36:26Speaker 3: plus your headlines coming up as well. It is Chuck
- 36:30Speaker 3: and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point
- 36:32Speaker 3: three KJRFM. Ashley Ryan is here. My name is Chuck
- 36:35Speaker 3: powellin we will have a game seven. Much to the
- 36:37Speaker 3: relief of Adam Silver in the NBA, in the Eastern
- 36:41Speaker 3: Conference Finals.
- 36:42Speaker 1: It was a sweep.
- 36:43Speaker 3: It was a sweep with blowouts in all four games,
- 36:46Speaker 3: Nix and Cavaliers, and so they were hoping, they were
- 36:49Speaker 3: hoping that this game would go the distance, and it will.
- 36:53Speaker 3: But they have not been edge of your seat kind
- 36:56Speaker 3: of games. There've been a couple of them, but this
- 36:59Speaker 3: is something that's kind of happening with the NBA right now.
- 37:02Speaker 3: And I think the NBA's got a great product when
- 37:05Speaker 3: it's right. I mean, man, that's first first thunder game.
- 37:08Speaker 3: That was one of the best basketball games I've ever watched.
- 37:10Speaker 4: Well, you had that and then you had the twenty
- 37:12Speaker 4: two point comeback from the Knicks and the Cavs in
- 37:15Speaker 4: game went. I mean both the first game in both
- 37:18Speaker 4: conferences were awesome. I was like, these conference finals are
- 37:22Speaker 4: going to be epic.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a great I know people bag
- 37:25Speaker 3: on the product, and I think that you just you're
- 37:28Speaker 3: not I think you just kind of went into watching
- 37:32Speaker 3: the NBA thinking wanting to hate it. If you feel
- 37:34Speaker 3: that way, I mean, it's a very skilled It's different.
- 37:37Speaker 3: It's different than what if you're my age, You're close
- 37:39Speaker 3: to my age we grew up with. And I don't
- 37:41Speaker 3: think it's as good. I don't think there's enough physicality.
- 37:45Speaker 3: But yet I understand why there is less physicality. And
- 37:48Speaker 3: from that standpoint, you got an entire generation that were
- 37:51Speaker 3: brought up on kind of more of an esthetically pleasing
- 37:55Speaker 3: almost more like a.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Ballet than a than a scrum.
- 37:59Speaker 3: Yeah, And from from that standpoint, very skilled, very long,
- 38:02Speaker 3: very athletic. I mean, you've got big men that can
- 38:05Speaker 3: handle the ball.
- 38:06Speaker 1: I mean, dark.
- 38:07Speaker 3: Novitzky was supposed to be some freak and now everybody
- 38:12Speaker 3: Dirk darkovitz and now pretty much every seven footer can
- 38:16Speaker 3: shoot threes and handle the.
- 38:17Speaker 1: Ball to some degree.
- 38:19Speaker 3: Hell, we have a seven foot five inch guy that
- 38:21Speaker 3: can do it in the league. So I think it
- 38:23Speaker 3: is a is a great game. If so, if I'm
- 38:26Speaker 3: going to take a shot and sorry, young people. If
- 38:30Speaker 3: I am going to take a shot at the new
- 38:32Speaker 3: version of the NBA, I and and and I might
- 38:37Speaker 3: be completely way off on this. There is something too.
- 38:42Speaker 3: Because the game's not as rugged, and the game's not
- 38:45Speaker 3: as tough, and because we have things like you know,
- 38:48Speaker 3: we sit players out to rest them so that they're
- 38:53Speaker 3: ready later on in the year. I mean, it's just
- 38:55Speaker 3: not as gritty a game. And I really think subconsciously,
- 39:01Speaker 3: and I don't think it's consciously subconsciously like a game
- 39:04Speaker 3: last night Oklahoma City was like, we've got another one
- 39:08Speaker 3: in hand.
- 39:08Speaker 1: That's when we're really going to.
- 39:10Speaker 3: Save our good juice for I really think that happens
- 39:14Speaker 3: because there are way too many blowouts in these playoff series.
- 39:19Speaker 3: And even if you end up getting a Game seven
- 39:21Speaker 3: like we're going to get in this series, there have
- 39:22Speaker 3: been like four games that have not even been close.
- 39:26Speaker 1: And I just don't.
- 39:27Speaker 3: Remember the Michael Jordan, Gary Payton, Sean Kemp, Charles Barkley era.
- 39:33Speaker 3: I don't remember many blowouts where you just kind of like,
- 39:37Speaker 3: I'm gonna go watch soft.
- 39:39Speaker 4: Yeah turn yeah, turned off the fourth quarter, third halfway
- 39:42Speaker 4: through the third quarter.
- 39:43Speaker 3: Yeah, halfway through. I'm so excited about watching this and
- 39:46Speaker 3: now I'm done. Yeah, and there's still two quarters remaining.
- 39:49Speaker 3: And I think that's part of how I mean, it's
- 39:52Speaker 3: just a softer league, and I think they are softer players.
- 39:55Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I think they're softer players. And I think
- 39:57Speaker 3: that there is a subconscient whis this element of that
- 40:01Speaker 3: where like, why are we going to kill ourselves when
- 40:03Speaker 3: we have a game in hand at home that we
- 40:05Speaker 3: have a better chance of winning. I mean, this thing
- 40:08Speaker 3: doesn't go just smoothly right out of the gates, then
- 40:11Speaker 3: we're not gonna bust our ass to try to win it. Yeah,
- 40:13Speaker 3: it kind of feels that way, and maybe I'm way
- 40:16Speaker 3: off on that, but I don't think I am.
- 40:18Speaker 4: No, And that would be a disappointment because you like
- 40:20Speaker 4: to think that every game you're tuning in one, they're
- 40:22Speaker 4: not taking that game for granted because you have no
- 40:24Speaker 4: idea how the Spurs are going to come out in
- 40:26Speaker 4: Game seven in Oklahoma City, Right, You would like to
- 40:29Speaker 4: think that they're not taking those games for granted and
- 40:31Speaker 4: that they know that at any given time they could
- 40:34Speaker 4: kick your butts. But I I could see that, and
- 40:38Speaker 4: that would be disappointing.
- 40:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying they go into it that way.
- 40:42Speaker 3: I know Oklahoma City was like, we would like to
- 40:44Speaker 3: get this done, but if it starts going south at all,
- 40:47Speaker 3: it just feels like there's a roll over element when
- 40:51Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, we can kill ourselves to try to
- 40:54Speaker 3: come back from a twenty point deficit here in the
- 40:56Speaker 3: second half, or we can save all of our energy
- 40:59Speaker 3: poured into a home game that decides everything where we
- 41:03Speaker 3: will have a little bit of an advantage in front
- 41:05Speaker 3: of our own people. And I think that that happens
- 41:09Speaker 3: way more now than it did when I was growing up.
- 41:14Speaker 3: And maybe that's not a bad thing. Maybe it's just
- 41:16Speaker 3: a different thing, but it sure does lead to a
- 41:20Speaker 3: lot of very uninteresting fourth quarters. Yeah.
- 41:23Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I was reading the book last night during
- 41:26Speaker 5: the fourth quarter.
- 41:28Speaker 3: I'm not kidding you, i'man I'm glad it happened because
- 41:30Speaker 3: I went and watched college softball World Series and watching
- 41:34Speaker 3: Nebraska versus Arkansas, and that was one of the best
- 41:37Speaker 3: games I've watched in any sport this year. That was incredible.
- 41:42Speaker 3: That's a great product. We don't talk about college softball.
- 41:45Speaker 1: That's a great it is.
- 41:47Speaker 5: I would rather watch college softball than college baseball.
- 41:50Speaker 1: I think I would too. Yeah.
- 41:52Speaker 4: We were having a conversation this past weekend, and I
- 41:54Speaker 4: wonder if that's because we have MLB, so we have
- 41:56Speaker 4: baseball on a higher level than college baseball that we
- 41:59Speaker 4: can watch. And now they have professional softball, but I'd
- 42:02Speaker 4: still rather watch college softball.
- 42:04Speaker 3: I think it's because I like four to three, because
- 42:07Speaker 3: college baseball there's way too much fifteen to twelve. Yeah,
- 42:10Speaker 3: and I like four to three a lot better. I
- 42:12Speaker 3: like a lot more like you got to fight for
- 42:14Speaker 3: everything kind of baseball and sports, and you get that
- 42:17Speaker 3: almost every game.
- 42:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun in college softball, all right.
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