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The DiCecco Daily: Uncertainty Surrounding Jalen Carter's Health · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome into another edition of
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Speaker 1: the check Odaly. It's Andrew dcheco here, Eagles beat reporter
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Speaker 1: Friendsidethebirds dot Com. Today is Wednesday, and everything, as I mentioned,
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Speaker 1: is a little bit different this week because the Eagles
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Speaker 1: play on Monday night. And you're gonna hear some of
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Speaker 1: the takeaways that I have from Vic Fangio, Eagle special
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Speaker 1: teams coordinator Michael Clay, and then of course Kevin Patullo.
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Speaker 1: And we'll start with Vic Fangio because he was asked
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Speaker 1: to start the press conference about Marcus Epps. Now, I
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Speaker 1: mentioned on yesterday's podcast that Marcus Epps had his twenty
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Speaker 1: one day practice window opened on Tuesday, and the question
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Speaker 1: pertained It was a three part question, but it was
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Speaker 1: about do you believe Marcus will be ready for Monday?
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Speaker 1: Is he in contention to start? Vic Fangio said yes
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Speaker 1: to the first two, and then he expanded on what
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Speaker 1: he likes about Marcus, saying he's an experienced safety, He's
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Speaker 1: got good instincts, got a good feel for the game.
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Speaker 1: We'll have to get a feel and a barometer about
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Speaker 1: where he is at. Missing the last four or five weeks, whatever,
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Speaker 1: it was where he couldn't practice anyway. And then he
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Speaker 1: was asked about Sidney Brown's first start. He said, it
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Speaker 1: was like the rest. It was a lot like the
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Speaker 1: rest of us, some good, some bad. So this potential
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Speaker 1: edition of Marcus Epps. He got injured after the Giants game,
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Speaker 1: so he was on injured reserve after the Eagles Week
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Speaker 1: eight game, and it's important to note that he was
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Speaker 1: ahead of Sidney Brown. He entered the game before Sidney
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Speaker 1: Brown and had sort of overtaken that role as the
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Speaker 1: third safety. Then he was injured. He finished, He was
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Speaker 1: on IR for four games, and it sounds like he's
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Speaker 1: going to have a real shot to start Monday Night
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Speaker 1: against the Chargers, and that will provide a little bit
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Speaker 1: of stability there if that's the case. Remember, Marcus Epps
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Speaker 1: started seventeen games in the regular season and all postseason
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Speaker 1: contests for the twenty twenty two Eagles that made it
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Speaker 1: to Arizona for Super Bowl fifty seven. So while circumstances
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Speaker 1: aren't ideal, not having Drew mccouba and the Eagles options
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Speaker 1: were very limited prior to that, Sidney Brown I thought
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Speaker 1: had an uneven game, if I'm putting it nicely. I
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Speaker 1: thought that there were opportunities where he could have made
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Speaker 1: some plays, and you saw some of the blemishes to
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Speaker 1: his game that surfaced a little bit. And we'll see
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Speaker 1: if Marcus Epps can provide something more. We'll also have
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Speaker 1: to learn more about practice and how this week goes
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Speaker 1: for him, but it certainly seems like if all systems
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Speaker 1: are go, that he will be the starter. So that
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Speaker 1: could be something that helps stabilize the back end in
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Speaker 1: the interim. But Vicanjie also spoke about the biggest issues
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Speaker 1: with the run defense, and he said biggest issues were
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Speaker 1: won they run the ball very well. Oh, I didn't
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Speaker 1: do a good enough job of preparing our squad for
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Speaker 1: the quality and the diversity of their run game. We
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Speaker 1: didn't play the run in the blocks the way we
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Speaker 1: had been playing. But as I've mentioned at different points
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Speaker 1: over the past a little less than a week or so,
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Speaker 1: I thought that that was probably the poorest performance from
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Speaker 1: Jay when Carter that I've seen all season, so much
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Speaker 1: so that it was evident that he was dealing with
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Speaker 1: something because he wasn't his dominant self, He wasn't creating penetration,
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Speaker 1: he wasn't dominating guards as he typically does, and so
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Speaker 1: he was asked, you know that, yeah, and I should
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Speaker 1: also remind everybody that after the game he was a
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Speaker 1: little bit cryptic and he said, you know, no one
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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but no one knows what I'm dealing with.
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Speaker 1: He didn't want to elaborate on it. He didn't use
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Speaker 1: it as a crutch or an excuse, but it left
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Speaker 1: you know, the you know, it created a little bit
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Speaker 1: of you know, speculation, and it left the door open.
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Speaker 1: And so vic Fangie was asked about whether there was
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Speaker 1: some sort of injury that was plaguing him. Is it
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Speaker 1: a factor based off of the play that we saw,
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Speaker 1: and Vic Fangios said he does have a shoulder issue.
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Speaker 1: He has been playing with it. Late in the game.
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Speaker 1: He had a great play with it. But it's definitely
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Speaker 1: but it's definitely something there.
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Speaker 1: Now. Jaywen Carter played sixty one of the Eagle's eighty
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Speaker 1: seven defensive snaps. It was evident that he wasn't himself.
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Speaker 1: I thought that there were times where he was getting
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Speaker 1: washed down and the run game where ordinarily he would
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Speaker 1: be able to kind of anchor and hold up at
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Speaker 1: the point of attack. It just didn't quite look like
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Speaker 1: Jaywen Carter was playing at one hundred percent. And then
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Speaker 1: you hear the comments after the game that he said,
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Speaker 1: and he didn't make an excuse, but it kind of
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Speaker 1: painted the picture or maybe illustrated that there was something
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Speaker 1: a little bit more going on there. And vik Fango
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Speaker 1: of course talked about the shoulder injury. Now, jay when
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Speaker 1: Carter has been dealing with a shoulder injury throughout the season,
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Speaker 1: or at least earlier in the season, and that's something
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Speaker 1: that I feel like he's had to play through and
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Speaker 1: play with and learn how to deal with throughout the
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Speaker 1: season and against run heavy teams like that, you have
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Speaker 1: to wonder how that shoulder impacts your ability to disengage
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Speaker 1: and sort of play that physical style, those heavy, violent
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Speaker 1: hands that he exhibits each and every week, and how
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Speaker 1: that impacts it. I think that there's obviously something to that.
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Speaker 1: Vic Fangu has said, we'll see how it goes. When asked,
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Speaker 1: will the shoulder injury impact his quantity of snaps and
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Speaker 1: Jay when Carter usually plays the Lion's share of snaps.
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Speaker 1: He's played seventy two of the Eagles defense seventy two
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Speaker 1: percent of the Egles defensive snaps this season, and I
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Speaker 1: think that that will be something to keep an eye on. Now.
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Speaker 1: Their defensive tackles played a lot in that game, obviously,
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Speaker 1: when the Eagles play eighty seven defensive snaps, but for perspective,
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Speaker 1: Moro Jomo sixty two snaps, Jaywen Carter sixty one, Jordan
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Speaker 1: Davis fifty nine, and Byron Young played thirty eight. So
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Speaker 1: he was also asked if this means that maybe Ty Robinson,
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Speaker 1: the Eagles rookie defensive tackle from Nebraska Mike factor in
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Speaker 1: the rotation, and Vic Fangio said possible. So we'll have
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Speaker 1: to wait and see how the week goes. The Eagles
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Speaker 1: are on the practice field on Thursday, and that kicks
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Speaker 1: off this week. Again, everything the schedule is a little
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Speaker 1: bit pushed back or pushed up because of the Monday
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Speaker 1: night game. And then finally, if you remember, Jahad Campbell
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Speaker 1: did not play any defensive snaps this week, and it
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Speaker 1: was curious because against the Lions he played twenty against
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys he played eleven and against the Bears who
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Speaker 1: played zero. And so this was asked to him, is
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Speaker 1: there something to that or and he goes, no, probably
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Speaker 1: should have gotten him in there for a few That'd
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Speaker 1: be my fault there. But obviously, with the run game
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Speaker 1: the way it was happening, that's been a strength of
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Speaker 1: n Kobe's and we wanted to leave him in there. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so very consistent messaging with what Vic Vanjo has said
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Speaker 1: for a while now. When asked about the decreased snaps
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Speaker 1: for Jahad Campbell, but to not see the rookie linebacker
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Speaker 1: Plague any defensive snaps, I thought was really curious. And
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Speaker 1: you have to think that there is a way to
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Speaker 1: incorporate him into the defensive plan because I think what
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Speaker 1: you had Campbell brings in terms of athleticism and coverability
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Speaker 1: compliments ideally with what Nikobe Dean can do in terms
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Speaker 1: of run defense and blitzing.
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Speaker 1: Safe and Nakobe Dean, I mean, his football intelligence is
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Speaker 1: a valued commodity and I don't want to sure change that,
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Speaker 1: but I would think that there has to be a
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Speaker 1: world where you can sprinkle in a little bit of
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Speaker 1: Jahad Campbell because he does offer something different and he
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Speaker 1: was playing well before. You know, he started eight games,
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Speaker 1: and he was playing well before Nikobe Dean took over. Now,
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Speaker 1: na Kobe Dean's playing better, and up until that Bears game,
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Speaker 1: he'd been playing lights out. No one played well on
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Speaker 1: defense in that Chicago Bears game, to be clear, And
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Speaker 1: it's hard to take Niakobe Dean off the field when
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Speaker 1: he's playing well. But I have to think that when
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Speaker 1: you have someone who has a unique skill set, the
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Speaker 1: length and the coverability and the sideline the sideline prowess
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Speaker 1: that Jahad Campbell does, especially when you're going up against
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Speaker 1: a team like the Chargers who can throw the football
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Speaker 1: around a little bit, they can spread you out, I
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Speaker 1: would think that that would lend itself to Jahid Campbell
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Speaker 1: playing a little bit more. Now, I'm not suggesting that
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Speaker 1: he divides it fifty to fifty like that, because Nikobe
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Speaker 1: Dean brings a lot of toughness and swagger there, and
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Speaker 1: I think he's sort of re established that chemistry playing
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Speaker 1: opposite Zach Bond. But there has to be a way
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Speaker 1: where you can get Jahad in there to capitalize on
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Speaker 1: some of the things that he does well, and that
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Speaker 1: could be something that takes shape and as you know,
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Speaker 1: as a situational type of circumstance here, maybe you could
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Speaker 1: work them in situationally, and I do believe that he will.
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Speaker 1: If you look at Fangio's comment, it supports what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of the way that I'm reading that
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Speaker 1: right now, and I'm curious to see what the snapshare
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Speaker 1: ends up looking like coming out of that Monday night
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Speaker 1: game against the Chargers. So that was Vic Fangio. We'll
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Speaker 1: get to let's do Kevin Patullo.
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm not gonna spend a lot of time
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Speaker 1: on this two point conversion conversation because it was so
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Speaker 1: long ago, but it's important to hear from the offensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator his vantage point on that, and he said, when
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Speaker 1: you have two point conversions, they have two ways of
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Speaker 1: doing it. They could say, hey, we're going to go
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Speaker 1: all out pressure, We're going to do max zones. When
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Speaker 1: you design those kind of plays, you want to make
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Speaker 1: sure you're in the best of both worlds. Unfortunately, we
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Speaker 1: had a little bit of miscommunication on that place and
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Speaker 1: so that's what we've got to continue to work through.
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Speaker 1: We had a few too many of those, and we
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Speaker 1: know it's part of all of us. That's coaches, that's players,
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Speaker 1: that's everybody. We've got to make sure we're on the
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Speaker 1: same page so those things don't happen anymore. Talking about
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and the miscommunication with DeVante Smith on that
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Speaker 1: third and eight play that likely would have been a
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Speaker 1: touchdown if Davante's hitting stride. If you listen, if you
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Speaker 1: watched Hard Knocks, you saw Jalen Hurts take full accountability
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Speaker 1: on that play and you could see the frustration, no
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Speaker 1: finger pointing there, and that's sort of been something that
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Speaker 1: I've observed during my whole time covering Jalen Hurts. He's
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Speaker 1: an accountable player, and I think that that scene in
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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks really encapsulated that. But Kevin Patulo shed some
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Speaker 1: light on the play and he said, sometimes on those
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Speaker 1: kinds of plays, it's a matter of just making sure
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Speaker 1: they're seeing the same thing. We try to do the
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Speaker 1: best we can as coaches and players, putting everybody in
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Speaker 1: those moments, whether it's in the classroom and walk through
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Speaker 1: on the practice field, because it is important. You can't
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Speaker 1: simulate everything in the heat of the battle because ultimately
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Speaker 1: everybody on the field, they're human. You're processing at a
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Speaker 1: fast rate. The clock's going and you're seeing it. You're
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Speaker 1: trying to make hand gestures and try to get everybody
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Speaker 1: on the same page. When things like that happen, you've
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Speaker 1: got to go back to where was the breakdown? Did
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Speaker 1: we cover it? Has it been talked about enough? Ultimately,
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Speaker 1: it was just a mistake, and that's what's hard. It's
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Speaker 1: hard to have those. It's hard when those happen because
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Speaker 1: the guys, whether it's coaches, players, we all take them
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Speaker 1: to heart. It's disappointing because we know we missed one,
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Speaker 1: but we've also got to learn from it. We've had
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Speaker 1: a few too many of those and we know that.
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Speaker 1: But as we go we've got to continue to push
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Speaker 1: through that so those things don't So those don't happen
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Speaker 1: and we can be on the same page. And if
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Speaker 1: it does, why did it happen? There could be a
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Speaker 1: human error and then we've got to move on. Bulow
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Speaker 1: also spoke about the incident that happened at his house
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Speaker 1: where it was egged early Saturday morning, and he said
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Speaker 1: at this point, we're ready to focus on winning the game.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately it happened. I've been here for five years now
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Speaker 1: and it's been awesome. I mean, this is such a
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Speaker 1: unique place to play, to coach and play, it's very special.
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Speaker 1: We've been a two NFC Championship games where we've won
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Speaker 1: at Lincoln Financial Field, a super Bowl, the parade is
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Speaker 1: just it's an amazing atmosphere to be a coach and
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Speaker 1: a player. And as coaches and players, we all know
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Speaker 1: that part of our job is to handle criticism. It's
15:34
Speaker 1: perfectly acceptable to sit up here and talk about what's
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Speaker 1: going on, how to fix it, what we're going to
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Speaker 1: do moving forward, and we know that. But when it
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Speaker 1: comes to your family, obviously it crosses a line. That happened,
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Speaker 1: and at this point we've just got to move on.
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Speaker 1: We're trying to win. That's all we want to do
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Speaker 1: is focus. Whether it's my family, whether it's the team.
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Speaker 1: All we're trying to do together is focus on this week.
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Speaker 1: Classy response there from Kevin Petullo, who took the high road,
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Speaker 1: not surprising, but I think that, well, one, it's just
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Speaker 1: an ugly thing that happened, an inexcusable and an absolute disgrace.
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Speaker 1: But I thought that as he's done off season, Kevin
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Speaker 1: Petullo has proven that he's going to kind of rise
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Speaker 1: above it and take everything in stride, and he chose
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Speaker 1: to look at the positive in this, and so that
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Speaker 1: was his answer there. That was something that I'm sure
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Speaker 1: a lot of you were wondering how he was going
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Speaker 1: to respond to that, and I think that that was
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Speaker 1: something that I wanted to make sure that I got
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Speaker 1: to you guys. So he also was asked another question
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Speaker 1: about learning to deal with the criticism when that comes
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Speaker 1: with that job, and he said, when you first start coaching,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's always there. As you start to develop
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Speaker 1: your career and you move up, and you move up,
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Speaker 1: and you move up. You've got to learn from people.
18:27
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni does a great job with all of us
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Speaker 1: as coaches, just preparing us for these kinds of moments,
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Speaker 1: the different mentors you have. You know, the pressure's there,
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Speaker 1: but we all accept it because we ultimately want to
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Speaker 1: be at the highest part of our coaching career and
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Speaker 1: continue to work through that. This is part of it.
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Speaker 1: It's a challenge, but it makes it fun. When you
18:45
Speaker 1: look back on it, you hope that you have more
18:47
Speaker 1: good than bad memories. And when you go through the
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Speaker 1: process like this, it defined you as a person in
18:52
Speaker 1: your career, but not as an individual, not as your family.
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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the big picture, it's
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Speaker 1: just a piece of who we all are as coaches,
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Speaker 1: who I am, who my family is. And ultimately it's fine.
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Speaker 1: It's a great career that we're in. We get to
19:06
Speaker 1: do something that very few people get to do. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we're one of thirty two I am Nick, as we
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Speaker 1: all are in the world. When you look at it
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Speaker 1: that way, we're very fortunate and it's exciting. There's nothing
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Speaker 1: better than winning a game in our stadium. There's nothing
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Speaker 1: better than going on the road and winning a game
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Speaker 1: in front of all these Eagles fans. It's very unique
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Speaker 1: and it's fun. Lastly, you may have heard about Nick Foles.
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Speaker 1: I believe he mentioned or suggested that there would be
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Speaker 1: a benefit of Kevin Patullo moving up to the booth
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Speaker 1: to call plays, and whether or not he saw any
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Speaker 1: validity validity in that. He said, I think the communication
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Speaker 1: with the players is important. I've been on since i've
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Speaker 1: been here in twenty one, I've been on the field
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Speaker 1: every time. I think there's a lot of communication with players,
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Speaker 1: coaches on the field, making sure adjustments are done correctly.
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Speaker 1: I have conversation with Jalen with the old line, with
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Speaker 1: the receivers that are important. I've been on the field
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Speaker 1: for a long long time. I don't think I've been
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Speaker 1: in the box since maybe twenty eleven as a coach,
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Speaker 1: so it's been a while. I think just the relationship
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Speaker 1: I had with the guys and the communication has been good,
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Speaker 1: and we've just got to continue to improve in other
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Speaker 1: areas and we'll be all right. So another good answer
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Speaker 1: there that I wanted to make sure that I passed
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Speaker 1: along to you all because it's important, and I know
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Speaker 1: that that question that video from Foles was circulating a
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Speaker 1: little bit. Michael Clay, We're not going to get to
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Speaker 1: a whole lot here, but he was asked about the
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Speaker 1: tough kicking day with the weather and the miskicks from
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Speaker 1: Jake Elliot. He says, with the extra point, obviously, we
20:40
Speaker 1: just can't. We want to make sure when we have
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Speaker 1: those close range field goals extra points, that we do
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Speaker 1: our job to get points on the board and don't
20:47
Speaker 1: put ourselves in the scenario that we did have to
20:50
Speaker 1: do at the end of the game. I thought he
20:53
Speaker 1: struck that fifty two yard or pretty well. It was
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Speaker 1: just the tougher end of the stadium going into the wind.
20:57
Speaker 1: It was going straight then obviously the wind coming down
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Speaker 1: out of the west was bouncing back off the stands
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Speaker 1: and it took it at the end right there. But
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Speaker 1: obviously I'm not too upset with the fifty two yarder.
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Speaker 1: He really did strike it pretty well. We just can't
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Speaker 1: put ourselves in those predictaments with the shorter field goals,
21:16
Speaker 1: just going through our technique and are just our fundamentals
21:19
Speaker 1: of getting it through right there. When asked about whether
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Speaker 1: the plan is to go back to Xavier Gibson when
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Speaker 1: he's healthy, or is Britain Covey going to be the
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Speaker 1: Eagles pump returner moving forward? He said, yeah, everything is
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Speaker 1: so fluid. You just never know how the roster is
21:37
Speaker 1: going to be dictated week in and week out. Obviously,
21:39
Speaker 1: you get injuries, you get people bagged up, scheme things
21:41
Speaker 1: of that nature. We just take it day by day
21:44
Speaker 1: and get everybody ready to get their numbers called. Obviously
21:47
Speaker 1: there's been guys that have been called up for the
21:48
Speaker 1: day of the game. So it's just one of those
21:51
Speaker 1: things where we do here in the specialists room to
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Speaker 1: make sure everybody's ready to go. And finally he talked
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Speaker 1: about Britain Covey and how he looked in his return action.
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Speaker 1: It was his first game actually since December one of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, when the Eagles played the Baltimore Ravens,
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Speaker 1: and Michael Clay said, yeah, obviously a familiar face with Covey.
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Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job. Difficult with conditions
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Speaker 1: out there, with being windy, only had really one opportunity
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Speaker 1: to return, and I thought he did a nice job.
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Speaker 1: It's one of those punts that we call. It was
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Speaker 1: so bad. It was good in terms of it came
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Speaker 1: off Torrytailer's foot kind of sideways and it was short.
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Speaker 1: Then it just kept rolling and we didn't know. If
22:30
Speaker 1: he didn't pick that up, who knows where that ball
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Speaker 1: would have rolled to, could have been to the fifteen
22:35
Speaker 1: things of that nature. He did a good job of
22:38
Speaker 1: kind of corralling and getting square. Then he made two
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Speaker 1: miss and got nine yards out of it, and kind
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Speaker 1: of vintage Covey making something and enoughing to get us
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Speaker 1: right to get us that first out in terms of
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Speaker 1: the return. So I thought he did a good job
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Speaker 1: of battling against the conditions, the kickers, the punters right there.
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Speaker 1: It was good to have familiar face back there, and
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Speaker 1: familiar face there and Covey back. That's my synopsis. Synopsis
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Speaker 1: from the three coordinators I spoke today. That's going to
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Speaker 1: do it for this edition of the Checko Deli am
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Speaker 1: Andre to Checko, and I'll catch you on the next one.