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The Rita Panahi Show | 19 November · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: On scoring leaves Australia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riada Panney Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, Senator just Into Nama, Jim for Price and
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  Speaker 2: former Liberal Senator Wholly us in a war of words.
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  Speaker 2: James Campbell will weigh in on that. Shortly, Australia's East
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  Speaker 2: Safety Commissioner called to appear before the United States Congress
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  Speaker 2: after she was accused of being a direct threat to
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  Speaker 2: free speech in America. Victoria Libertarian p David Limbrick will
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  Speaker 2: join me to discuss that and renewed push to hold
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and his senior ministers accountable for their
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  Speaker 2: role in the Britney Higgins cover up saga. Chris Merritt
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  Speaker 2: will join me for that, and Mean Horowitz will have
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  Speaker 2: all the latest from the US, from the release of
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  Speaker 2: the Epstein files to Nicki Minaja's passionate plea at the
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  Speaker 2: und and we never forget left he is losing it
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  Speaker 2: Tonight it features Democrat Congresswoman the always elegant Jasmine Crockett,
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  Speaker 2: but first to the turmoil within the Victorian Liberal Party,
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  Speaker 2: who yesterday selected a first term MP to lead them
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  Speaker 2: into the next election. Jess Wilson became the liberals third
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  Speaker 2: leader in just twelve months after defeating Brad Batton, who,
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  Speaker 2: according to a recent poll, had an election winning lead
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  Speaker 2: over Labor. A Herald Sun pole shows voters are split
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  Speaker 2: on this latest leadership change, with only forty five percent
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  Speaker 2: of respondents saying dumping Brad Batton was the right call.
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  Speaker 2: Sky News hit the streets of Melbourne earlier today to
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  Speaker 2: get the public's reaction to Wilson's appointment. Have a listen.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know Jess Wilson?
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  Speaker 1: No? I don't. Sorry, No, she's.
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  Speaker 3: Our new opposition leader in Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Interestingly I heard that she was talking about crime and
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  Speaker 2: fighting the crime problem we have at the moment in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: So that exparked my interest. And that's your biggest concern
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  Speaker 2: at the moment at the moment. Yeah. Joining me now
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  Speaker 2: is the Herald Sons James Campbell. James, you wrote to
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  Speaker 2: column and the Herald's son explaining that this bill was
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  Speaker 2: brought about after jain to Alan came down hard on
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  Speaker 2: youth crime with those adult time adult crime laws. Why
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  Speaker 2: did that spook the Liberals and why would they dump
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  Speaker 2: a leader just as he was getting some cuts through
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  Speaker 2: and had a positive poll result.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, the adult time for adult crime or whatever it
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  Speaker 4: is was the trigger, but the cause was about six
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  Speaker 4: to eight weeks ago. What happened was he reshuffled his
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  Speaker 4: front bench. A lot of people got their noses out
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  Speaker 4: of joint. They didn't like where they were, They felt
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  Speaker 4: they'd been disrespected, and they decided to get him. But
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  Speaker 4: they'd also been along a building concern about Batton's ability. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: his ability to get his hit around the work required
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  Speaker 4: his fact that he'd become. Essentially, they regarded him as
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  Speaker 4: a one trick pony on crime. They were worried that
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  Speaker 4: Jacinta had basically pulled his pants down on that and
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  Speaker 4: what was he and he had nothing to say, so
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  Speaker 4: they took the advantage of his temporary weakness and got
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  Speaker 4: rid of him, even though the polls were quite good
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  Speaker 4: for him.
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  Speaker 2: And that's been my criticism of him as well, that
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  Speaker 2: you can't just focus on crime because labor can come
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  Speaker 2: down and they'll bring back the death penalty if it
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  Speaker 2: means second stage hour. But surely they knew his abilities
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  Speaker 2: before they installed him as a leader. If they thought
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't going to be fantastic on policy detail, or
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't prosecute certain arguments. They would have known that
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  Speaker 2: he is not a newbie.
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  Speaker 1: That is a very good point.
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  Speaker 4: And at the time the people who didn't want him
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  Speaker 4: said that he wouldn't he wouldn't have the capacity to
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  Speaker 4: grow in the job. Others said, well, maybe will, maybe
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  Speaker 4: he won't. But at that time the most critical thing
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  Speaker 4: on their head was getting rid of John Pursuito. They
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  Speaker 4: put their faith in him as a conservative, which he
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  Speaker 4: never was. Really, yeah, that's not a conservative. He's not
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  Speaker 4: a particularly ideological person. Nice guy, you know, ex copper
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  Speaker 4: ran a Baker's Delight, got a great cv.
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  Speaker 1: For an everyman leader.
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  Speaker 4: But in the end they just enough of them were
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  Speaker 4: decided they just couldn't trust that he was going to improve,
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  Speaker 4: and they didn't think he'd survive an election campaign.
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  Speaker 2: He was relatable though, as you said, he was a
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  Speaker 2: Copper Baker's Delight. I'm not sure how relatable Jess Wilson is.
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  Speaker 2: How do you see her getting to know the Victorian
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  Speaker 2: public or the Victorian public getting to know her. How
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  Speaker 2: is she going to get that cut through and that trust.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's a very very good question, and it is
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  Speaker 4: difficult to see. She's still a work in progress. She's
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  Speaker 4: only been in Parliament three years. It takes a long
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  Speaker 4: time to learn how to present yourself properly in public.
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  Speaker 4: It takes a long time to learn how to manage
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  Speaker 4: the party. Takes a long time to get your head
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  Speaker 4: around how the government works. She's a quick study, there's
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  Speaker 4: no question about that. You know, nobody would think that
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  Speaker 4: it was, in other inordinary circumstances, a good idea to
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  Speaker 4: make her leader.
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  Speaker 2: Now well, I've written about her elevation to LEDA and
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say major concerns. She seems to be
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  Speaker 2: on the wrong side of major issues. She voted against
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  Speaker 2: more deeming. We saw what that did to the party.
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  Speaker 2: She came to prominence when she was elected and gave
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  Speaker 2: a speech I think it was a maiden speech, was
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  Speaker 2: all about net zero and now she's talking about that's
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  Speaker 2: not such a huge concern anymore. She's all about the
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  Speaker 2: cost of electricity. Well, three years ago you should have
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  Speaker 2: known those two things were connected.
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  Speaker 1: People can evolve.
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  Speaker 2: People can evolve. But it was only two years ago
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  Speaker 2: that we had a referendum and she was the lone
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  Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal MP who was on the record voting yes.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Kredlin asked her about that last night. This is
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  Speaker 2: what she had to say.
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  Speaker 5: One of my viewers watching to night, and they remember
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  Speaker 5: you as someone who supported the Voice, one of the
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  Speaker 5: few liberals supported the voice. Even in Victoria the Voice
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  Speaker 5: was defeated. Have you changed your mind there?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I've been very clear about the treaty that I
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  Speaker 6: opposed the treaty and I spoke about it at length
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  Speaker 6: in the Parliament.
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  Speaker 2: Would you repeal it? Yes, we will repeal.
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  Speaker 5: It, including anything that looks and sounds and smells like
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  Speaker 5: the Voice in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I think that what I saw when I looked at
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  Speaker 6: the treaty in detail is something that was very vastly
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  Speaker 6: different to the Voice.
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  Speaker 2: In many ways.
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  Speaker 6: The Voice was a concept, whereas we know what the
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  Speaker 6: treaty actually is about, and it is vastly different in
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  Speaker 6: scope and in scale. And Victorian's voted no to the
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  Speaker 6: Voice and I respect that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, James, a lot of people seem to be rather
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  Speaker 2: satisfied with that answer. That answer only disturbs me further.
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  Speaker 1: I had a feeling that would be the case.
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  Speaker 2: She said the Voice was just a concept. She was
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  Speaker 2: willing to change our constitution in shrine racial privilege into
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  Speaker 2: the constitution based on a concept, and I would argue
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't a concept if you bother to actually see
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  Speaker 2: what it was. It went a lot further than that.
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  Speaker 2: She's a lawyer. How can she present herself as so naive?
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  Speaker 4: Look, she hasn't got a good answer for this, because
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  Speaker 4: I mean the fact of the matter was that the
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  Speaker 4: answer she needed in Q in twenty twenty three was years.
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  Speaker 4: The answer she needs now in Victoria across the state
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  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five is no. But to give her
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  Speaker 4: her credit, she did speak against the Voice in Parliament
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  Speaker 4: earlier this month. She was only one of a hatful
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  Speaker 4: of MPs who did. Baton didn't speak it against her
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  Speaker 4: and the other MP who was most read hol On
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  Speaker 4: at the Lower House incidentally was the former leader Pursuito
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  Speaker 4: Interesting in the next door seat of Hawthorne.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that is surprising, But I've got to say that
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  Speaker 2: it's the backflips. There's a vibe of Susan Lee about her.
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  Speaker 2: Just one position and next to it, a few focus
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  Speaker 2: groups come in and we've got a whole new position.
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  Speaker 1: There's no pleasing you. Who would you have.
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  Speaker 2: The problem there's not a great deal of depth and
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  Speaker 2: talent in the Victorian Libs, is there. They've really have
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  Speaker 2: mastered the art of losing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question.
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  Speaker 4: There's no question about that. They've won three elections since
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  Speaker 4: nineteen seventy nine. It's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive. Just finally, on the Voice and Treaty,
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  Speaker 2: Victorians did vote no. We've now got a state based
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  Speaker 2: permanent Voice and Treaty which is broad and has all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of implications. I think that can win an election
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  Speaker 2: fighting on that alone. I mean, the cost of living
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  Speaker 2: is obviously a huge issue, but this is something that
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  Speaker 2: has enormous cuts through. But they don't seem to be
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  Speaker 2: campaigning on it. And I think, do you think it
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  Speaker 2: complicates their fight on this when they have a leader
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  Speaker 2: who backed the referendum.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so, because she can simply say
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  Speaker 4: I'm respecting the will of the people. I did want
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  Speaker 4: the other thing, but that was a very small thing
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  Speaker 4: and this is very bad and anyway, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 4: voted for it, because you've voted no.
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  Speaker 1: So that's respectable. Whatever I put.
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  Speaker 4: What she ever, she personally thinks she respects the public's
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  Speaker 4: view whereas Jacindra Allen is basically sticking two fingers up
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  Speaker 4: to what the public did in twenty twenty three, isn't she?
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  Speaker 4: So I don't see that as much of a problem.
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  Speaker 4: I think the way that the treaty, I think the
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  Speaker 4: treaty is disliked by a larger number of people than
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  Speaker 4: it's liked by. But I think it's more equivocal than that.
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  Speaker 4: I think the people who really dislike it really really dislike.
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  Speaker 2: It, but people don't hear about it. I think the
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  Speaker 2: Liberals aren't campaigning on it. They hear about it if
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  Speaker 2: I talk about it, true, talk about it with all.
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  Speaker 4: Due respect to you know, those of us who are
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  Speaker 4: in the media. There are a huge number of people now,
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  Speaker 4: particularly younger people, who don't consume this fine product. Right,
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  Speaker 4: So we constantly say, oh, the state opposition is not
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  Speaker 4: getting cut through.
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  Speaker 1: Problem is the state opposition.
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  Speaker 4: It's very hard for a state opposition to get cut
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  Speaker 4: through now, I mean, and this is one of the
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  Speaker 4: reasons I think getting rid of Baton is going to
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  Speaker 4: be problematic because it's taken a year for his name
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  Speaker 4: recognition to hit a point at which people kind of
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  Speaker 4: are likely to know who he is. Whereas and now
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  Speaker 4: they've set the dial back to zero again with a
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  Speaker 4: new leader.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, the vick lebs. Really, what can you say if
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  Speaker 2: there was an election today, Labor would romp it in,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't they. I mean, that's just a reality.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they'd romp it in, but they'd probably
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  Speaker 1: be re elected.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the book makers feel very comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: Makers represent where the money goes.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Now, before you go just into namba,
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  Speaker 2: jimper Price has taken a swipe a former Liberal senator,
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  Speaker 2: Holly Hughes. Hughes has resigned from the party and has
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  Speaker 2: not held back in a criticism of some of its members.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't name names, but she said they were lazy
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  Speaker 2: and ineppt. She claimed senator named jimber Price was being
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  Speaker 2: used by her conservative colleagues and future leadership contenders. Here's
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  Speaker 2: what just seem to have to say in response on
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  Speaker 2: to GB this morning.
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  Speaker 7: Curiously, just because we were walking down the hallway in
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  Speaker 7: front of our colleagues, somehow we're being who is.
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  Speaker 2: Just a ridiculous notion, It's quite I mean, she's clearly bitter.
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  Speaker 2: Never a dull moment in the Liberal Party. Is so
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  Speaker 2: much in fighting. Is Holly Hugh's right, are people who
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  Speaker 2: are perhaps lazy or in nept according to her undermining
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  Speaker 2: white antings, white aunting Susan Lee.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean when you talk at lazier, neat, I
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  Speaker 4: mean it's such a broad kind of it's way that
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  Speaker 4: people you really do need to like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Need to narrow it down. That's a start.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I mean personally look to seem to respond to
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  Speaker 4: that merely because she was asked, But I don't think
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  Speaker 4: she should really be wasting her time dignifying the comments.
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  Speaker 1: Of Holly Hughes. Holly Hughes is Yesterday's.
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  Speaker 2: Person and she is a long term, close personal friend
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  Speaker 2: of Susan Lee, so she's she's.
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  Speaker 4: A don't I wouldn't get into the trenches with Holly Hughes.
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  Speaker 2: Solid advice from James Campbell, Thank you fit time tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is legal affairs contributor for the Australian
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  Speaker 2: newspaper Chris Merritt Chris. The Liberal Party is standing firm
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  Speaker 2: on demanding answers from Labor on the weaponization of Brittany
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  Speaker 2: higgins alleged rape and the false allegation that there was
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  Speaker 2: a political cover up to protect the Morrison government. There
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  Speaker 2: is a renewed push to hold the Prime Minister and
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  Speaker 2: his senior ministers accountable for the part they played in
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  Speaker 2: this saga. Let's look at the PM's rather dismissive response
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  Speaker 2: to a question about two court rulings that found there
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  Speaker 2: was no political cover up.
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  Speaker 8: I'm minister, you provided yourself on running an account for government,
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  Speaker 8: one with integrity. A federal court judge and a Western
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  Speaker 8: Australian Supreme Court judge found claimed by Britney Higgins of
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  Speaker 8: a political cover up of an alleged rape. We're not
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  Speaker 8: just false but dishonest. Linda Reynolds and Fiona Brown were
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  Speaker 8: lowly accused by your own ministers. Do Petting Wong and
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  Speaker 8: Katie Gallagher owe both women an apology to the s
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  Speaker 8: full role in conflating an alleged rad with a false
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  Speaker 8: story of the political cover up that has damaged so
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  Speaker 8: many people and cost the country.
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  Speaker 2: In pms, Well, thank you for reading that question.
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  Speaker 9: A judge found the issue on Brittany Higgins are very
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  Speaker 9: different from the way that you characterize it.
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  Speaker 2: Chris, what do you make of the way the PM
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  Speaker 2: is handling this saga? And his answer right there?
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  Speaker 9: Well to be charitable. I think it might be a
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  Speaker 9: good idea for the Prime Minister or his advisors to
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  Speaker 9: go back and have a quick look at what the
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  Speaker 9: two judges actually decided. They did rule that this is
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  Speaker 9: the Federal Court and the Supreme Court of West Australia.
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  Speaker 9: They did rule that Miss Higgins told lies and made
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  Speaker 9: full statements, and these full statements form the basis for
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  Speaker 9: the materials she put before a mediation that resulted in
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  Speaker 9: a payout of two point four million. Now there are
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  Speaker 9: two things running here. There's the legal process. Miss Reynolds
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  Speaker 9: now has a civil claim against the Commonwealth alleging breach
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  Speaker 9: of duties and against the Commonwealth's law firm hw L
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  Speaker 9: Ebsworth alleging a breach of fi juciary duty. Now that's
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  Speaker 9: on one side of the debate. On the other side
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  Speaker 9: of the debate is the political argument, which we're in
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  Speaker 9: the middle of now. Now they're linked, but they're separate
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  Speaker 9: and one will feed into the other. Miss Reynolds has
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  Speaker 9: made it very clear that she would like the Commonwealth
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  Speaker 9: to do two things. Apologize for the conduct of the
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  Speaker 9: two minut ministers making statements based on their belief and
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  Speaker 9: you must expect that it was a sincere belief that
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  Speaker 9: the statements made by Miss Higgins about a cover up
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  Speaker 9: were true. They turned out to be false. She would
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  Speaker 9: like Miss Reynolds would now like an apology, but simultaneously,
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  Speaker 9: Miss Reynolds would also like these proceedings to be settled
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  Speaker 9: by the Commonwealth Force with without further legal expense. Now
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  Speaker 9: those two things are running side by side from the
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  Speaker 9: Commonwealth perspective. They need to bear in mind that Miss
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  Speaker 9: Reynolds now has a very very good track record when
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  Speaker 9: it comes to litigation. She's secured payouts in four defamation
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  Speaker 9: cases at last count Miss Higgins, the DPP from Shane Drumgold,
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  Speaker 9: the author a journalist who wrote a book that said
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  Speaker 9: defamatory things, and an online publication, so she's got a
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  Speaker 9: four nil running victory there, so that needs to be
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  Speaker 9: kept in mind. But the Commonwealth has also employed some
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  Speaker 9: very high priced lawyers to fend her off. So the
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  Speaker 9: last I heard, I happened to bump into one of
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  Speaker 9: Miss Reynolds's lawyers last night, as it happens, and it's
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  Speaker 9: expected that this case, if it goes to court, will
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  Speaker 9: run for about a year, So that's legal fees ticking
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  Speaker 9: over all. The time, So we're talking about millions of
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  Speaker 9: dollars in taxpayers funds being expended on this. We know
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  Speaker 9: that significant parts of the material that Miss Higgins laid
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  Speaker 9: before this mediation were false. There's extra material that Miss
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  Speaker 9: Reynolds has secured as a result of the defamation proceedings.
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  Speaker 9: The Supreme Court of West Australia has allowed Miss Reynolds
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  Speaker 9: to make use of this in the case against the Commonwealth,
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  Speaker 9: but it raises some very interesting questions. There are two
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  Speaker 9: reports by a psychiatrist. One the first report said all
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  Speaker 9: of the psychiatric damage incurred by Miss Higgins was a
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  Speaker 9: result of the alleged rate, and a few days later
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  Speaker 9: the same psychiatrists produced a report saying oops, no fort
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  Speaker 9: of that damage was as a result of the mishandling
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  Speaker 9: of these allegations by Miss Higgins by Miss Reynolds. So
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  Speaker 9: that conflict needs to be resolved, and that if the
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  Speaker 9: case goes ahead, that will be one the issues that
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  Speaker 9: could cause some distress for the Commonwealth's defense to this case.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a defense that the taxpayer is going to
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  Speaker 2: pay for. And if it goes for a year. How
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  Speaker 2: much are we talking about you said, millions? Are we
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  Speaker 2: talking about close to ten million, five million. Look, what
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  Speaker 2: would argue enough.
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  Speaker 9: I wouldn't want to put a figure on it, but
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  Speaker 9: I think millions is not a stretch. Justin Gleeson, I
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  Speaker 9: think is the silk that the Commonwealth has retained. He
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  Speaker 9: doesn't come cheap. But bear in mind Miss Reynolds has
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  Speaker 9: a very good record on litigation and she's financed by
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  Speaker 9: serious payouts from people who have made statements based on
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  Speaker 9: the belief that Miss Higgins was telling the truth about
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  Speaker 9: the cover up.
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  Speaker 2: Now do you agree with Linda Reynolds? She's asked for
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  Speaker 2: another apology, this time on behalf of the journalists, the
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  Speaker 2: young journalist Lily McCaffrey who asked that question. She's from
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  Speaker 2: the Australian newspaper, and Linda Reynolds wrote that wrote, this
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  Speaker 2: is the Prime Minister that you should apologize to the
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  Speaker 2: journalists who raised these issues with you yesterday. Your disrespect,
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  Speaker 2: rudeness and feigned ignorance is unbecoming of a PM. It's
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: quite a strong statement there, Chris. I didn't think the
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister looked terribly good responding in that manner. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: know he wants this issue to go away, but it's
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: not going away anytime, zoom.
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  Speaker 9: I think that's right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: It won't go away.
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: As far as an apology to journalists goes, journalists and
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: the Candra Prescari, in my experience, have got a very
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: very thick skin and they're not easily perturbed by the
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: way their questions are answered by politicians. I just bear
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: that in mind. But the broader issue is will this
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: issue go away for the Prime Minister and his ministers
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: Penny Wong and Katie Gallagher. I don't think it will.
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: I think miss Reynolds has an interest in prosecuting this now,
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: and not just in court, but in the court of
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: public opinion. It's a reversal, if you like, of how
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: this thing actually started. Had Miss Higgins taken her complaint
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: to the police and left it with the police instead
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: of taking it to the media, to the court of
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: public opinion, would be in a very very different position.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very right there. And Linda Reynolds has been vindicated,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: as you've mentioned, she's had those victories in court, but
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: she's paid such a heavy price with her reputation, with
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: her health and certainly financial price. Who I think, yes,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: she'll be pursuing this until she sees justice being done
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: in her eyes. Chris Merritt, thank you so much for
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: your time tonight. Joining me now is Victorian Libertarian MP
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: David Limbrick. David. Sky News has revealed this morning a
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: bombshell letter from US House of Representatives Committee Chairman Jim
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Jordan which accuses Australia's E Safety Commissioner Julie Inman Grant
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: of being a direct threat to the free speech of Americans.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: He also accuses Inmand Grant of being a zealot for
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: global takedowns. He said global content takedown orders are concerning
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: because they harm the free speech rights of those outside
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of Australia's jurisdiction and set the precedent that other governments
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: may do the same. David, the E Safety boss has
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: now been called to appear before the United States Congress
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: to give evidence. How do you see this issue? This
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: is something we've talked about on Sky News for some
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: time and it seems many in the media seem to
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: be completely oblivious to what the E Safety Commissioner is
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: doing and the impact she's having beyond Australia.
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, this is a wild development that's happened here
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: and yeah, like many people have had concerns about the
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: e Safety Commissioner's scope creep. I suppose you know, when
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: it was first set up, the idea was to protect children,
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: but now it seems to be to censor or anything
• 22:31
  Speaker 10: that you know, they or the government doesn't like, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: I think it's really concerning. I can understand why America
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: is concerned about this. I don't know whether they can
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: actually legally drag her out of Australia, but it's certainly
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: a stunning development.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Absolutely Now, I wanted to get your reaction to matters
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: closer to home. The Liberal Party's decision to dump Brad
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Batten ahead of the state election next year, in your view,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't the right move. I wrote a column for ther
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: old Sons arguing Jess Wilson, well, she's been on the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: wrong side of just about every consequential issue. From women's rights.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: She voted against more a deeming, she voted to expel
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: more a deeming for attending essentially a women's rights march.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: She voted yes to the Voice, and she preached about
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: ned zero when she first got elected. So how do
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you see this development in the Liberal Party.
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: I don't really understand why they got rid of Brad
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: in the first place. So it's not like he did
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: any sort of major stuff up. It's not like it's
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: over some big policy thing. Apparently they were doing well
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: in the polls. It just seems like sort of this
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: internal thing that they like to do. They know they're
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: focusing on themselves. Frankly, I'm more interested in we need
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: a differentiation from the government and clear positions, and you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: I'm trying to do as the Libertarian Party. We have
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: very clearly stated positions on things like energy, defensive rights, crime, education,
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: all these issues, and we want to just continue providing
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: a clear alternative to the government. And I don't feel
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: that the Liberal Party provides that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Do you see the party as united? You see them
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: in close causes? Do you see them being solid behind
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Jess Wilson. Are we going to have a fourth leader elected?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: We've had three already in less than twelve months.
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: Well, they seem to spend more time attacking each other
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: than doing anything sort of productive. And most of the
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: arguments that I hear are not really big policy differences
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: to the government. Most of them seem to be things
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: like they just think that they're better managers than the government.
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: They talk about the economy. They don't really talk about,
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: you know, well, how are they going to get the
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: economy back into the black, how are we going to
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: get out of it yet? And this sort of thing.
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: They just sort of seem to think, well, we're better
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: managers and we do a better job, and I don't
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: see any.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Evidence for that.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we need to see some policy shortly, because
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: it's all well and good to focus solely on the economy,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: but like you said, you need to have some policies
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to explain how we are going to do something about
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the debt, how we're going to do about something about
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis. Now, the Allen government has
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: its own problem obviously. Youth crime is a huge issue,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and they've announced social workers will be employed in twenty
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Victorian government schools as part of an early intervention program
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: aimed at reducing the state's rate of violent youth crime.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But that policy has already been criticized by the Victorian
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: branch of the Australian Education Union. It dismissed the move
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: as mere lip servers and accused the government of not
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: going far enough. David, do you think labor is doing
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: enough to stop youth crime?
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: Well, clearly not. There's there's a lot of problems at
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: the moment, both on the enforcement side and also the
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: prevention side. I'm skeptical that this will have the effect
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: that they want. I spoke recently to a police officer
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: who specializes in dealing with youth offenders, and he brought
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: up an idea that I've actually raised in Parliament that
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: I think would be quite effective. He thinks that police
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: officers should be going into schools that are around about
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: you know, thirteen to fourteen years old children and talking
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: to them about, you know, what it's like once you
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: get into a life of crime, because he reckons that
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: if you can intervene at that point, because that's sort
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: of when they make decisions that sort of dictate the
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: rest of their life. And I think in general, especially
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: with boys, the government needs to stop getting in the
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: way of boys that are doing activities that are lawful,
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: like you know, today, I spoke to a guy who
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: does these rideouts where boys get together and they ride
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: their bikes on the street and apparently they get hassled
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: by the police all the time. I mean, for goodness sake,
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: they're just riding bikes, like let them let boys.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Be yep, I think that's very good advice. Indeed, before
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you go, you've been outspoken about the failures of the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Victorian judicial system. You've proposed a new way of appointing
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: judges in Victoria. Can you tell me how that would work?
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, actually, in the middle of debating at right now,
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: it's looking like the major parties don't like the idea.
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: But what my idea is is similar to Canada, that
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: when judges are appointed or before they're appointed, they get
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: invited to appear before a parliamentary committee that can ask
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: the questions. And it's my view that this would provide
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: more public scrutiny on appointments and hopefully provide more trust
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: in the system. But yeah, it looks like the major
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: parties really don't like that idea.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Well, surprise, surprise, a bit more scrutiny and transparency and
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the major parties go runing. David Limbrick, thank you for your.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Time tonight, Thanks for having me.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Still to gar mat Left is Losing It and Nicki
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Minaja's powerful speech of the u N about the plant
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: of Christians in Nigeria. Army Horowitz is coming up next.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You're watching the Rida Panehy Show, and it's time for
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: lefties losing it and they're singing again or mimy in
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: this case, Can someone let lefty politicians know you don't
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: have to jump on every social media trend favored by
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: teenage girls. You really don't jasmine. Now to the leftist
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: heartland of Portland, where a bunch of activists got together,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: donned neon leotards and held an aerobics class outside of
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: an iced detention facility as a show of resistance. Of course,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: there was a furry there. I wish I never knew
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: what a furry was. Now let's hear from world class
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: hypocrite Sonny Houston, one of the co hosts of The View,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And wowie, what a difference a year makes. When Biden
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: was in power last year, she didn't want to know
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: about the Epstein list. Indeed, she warned anybody who would
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: listen that just being named doesn't mean you're guilty of anything.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: But now that Trump is in power, she's changed. To
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: the June she won't still let it with.
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: People were dying for this information. There was some sort
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: of list that everybody thought was going to come out.
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: And who's on the list, What's important for us to
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: note is we shouldn't been repeating names that are on
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: the list, because just because your name has not on
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: the list but in the documents, just because your name
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: is on the documents doesn't mean that you have done
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: anything criminally irresponsible or illegal or civilly irresponsible, or that
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: you were clients or that you were a client only. Really,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: these documents, as I read them, only reflect Epstein's sexual
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: assaults of women and his sexual behavior. So I think
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: that Elane and Galane and so being named in the
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: suit does not equate to being accused of wrongdoing. And
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: I think that is extremely important because conspiracy theorists seem
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: to not understand or enjoy facts. Yeah, these are the facts.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: There is a list. Trump's name is on.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: The logs, the passenger logs of Epstein's aircraft at least
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: seven times.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: That's already been made public.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: I mean, of course Trump is denying any any and
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: all allegations, but all of that information is out there.
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: Why not just put it to rest and say release
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: the looker.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: She didn't even want anyone on the list named last year.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Now she's red hot to go now when she's not
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: being a world class if acred. Sunny Houstin is indulging
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: in her favorite pastime of race faiting. Her race obsessions
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: have well been well documented. She bleeds on endlessly about
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: white supremacy and racism, but weirdly, she opts to live
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: in an all white neighborhood. And here Sonny again claims
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: that America is built on racism and slavery.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: This is a country based on racism and slavery and
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: founding it found that in it there is systemic racism
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: and misogyny.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: And there are.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: People that no one I've never met anyone that raises
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: their hand and says I am racist. However, there are
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: people that seem to be able to look the other
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: way when it comes to racism.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: She's so tiresome and ill informed. But it wouldn't be
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a Sunny Austin rant if it didn't have a segue
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: into some Trump derangement syndrome.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: So you have a president who traffics in misogyny, who
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: traffics in xenophobia, who track fix in sexism, and one
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: and any one and one against a black woman.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: So don't tell me that there's kind.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Of a wat to go a black woman.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: Don't tell me this country is ready, So let's a woman.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: Hillary Clinton was one of the most qualified yearbooks.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Now Here is Michigan State Superintendent Sue Cannell, who can't
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: seem to answer a simple question, a question so so
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: easy that a child could answer it with these How
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: many genders are there?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: How many genders are there?
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Different people have different beliefs on that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: Well, you can believe all you aret, but science says
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: there's two.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Now, I want to play you a little of Bill
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Maher's chat with actor and comic Patton Oswald, who thinks
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: he's very informed, very compassionate, and intelligent. He thinks he's
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: a political animal. Turns out he's a bubble dwelling fool
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: who hasn't even heard of the grooming gang scandal in
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the UK. Somehow he missed that huge scandal where thousands
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: of young girls were sexually abused while authorities turned to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: blind eye because their attackers happen to be mainly members
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of the Pakistani community. And gosh, we can't go around
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: enforcing the law and being seen as racist. Watched Patton
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: squirm here as Bill.
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: Mahers schools him, You know, grooming, the grooming scandal. No, see,
• 34:03
  Speaker 12: that's a big story.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: This is in the UK.
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: Yes, that went on from like the eighties to the present,
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: and it wasn't.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: A direct the royal family, No I'm not.
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: I'm talking about Pakistani men who are immigrants who were
• 34:16
  Speaker 12: grooming poor, impoverished white girls mostly in these things and
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: making them into prostitutes and sex slaves and like really nasty.
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: And if you don't understand that and that gender apartheid
• 34:32
  Speaker 12: is the number one issue that you woke people should
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: be concerned with, but seem not to be, then right
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: away we're not really seeing the world as the same way.
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: And I think I'm seeing it much more clearly. The
• 34:44
  Speaker 12: gender apartheid should be your number one issue if you
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: really care about oppression like a lot. I'm talking about
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: hundreds of millions of the world's women. And this is
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: why England is having a big problem these days because
• 34:58
  Speaker 12: in the interest of DEI, they are allowing practices that
• 35:02
  Speaker 12: are so illiberal, which is the great irony. This is
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: the least liberal thing you could be is treating women
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: as a second class citizen.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Seems to think it's a big joke. As far as
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the grooming scandal goes, there were how many inquiries and
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: trials stemming from that saga, and yet Passion has never
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: heard of any of it. That bubbly exists in must
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: be reinforced with titanium. Let's bring in documentary filmmaker and
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: commentator Army Horowitz. Army, the ignorance there is profound, and
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: from someone who is very political, very outspoken on all
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: sorts of political and social issues, and yet he missed
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the UK's grooming gang scandal.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I mean that wasn't the biggest problem.
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: Okay, Look, I'm sure a lot of people left have
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: never heard of this, right because the mainfit media really
• 35:53
  Speaker 11: has been hiding that issue. Shockingly, Look that dumb minime
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: didn't even know anything about Bill Maher's positions on these things.
• 36:04
  Speaker 11: That the crazy thing, like he's in the same world
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: as Bill Maher, had no idea what Bill Maher has
• 36:10
  Speaker 11: been saying for the last five to seven years. Even
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: more fascinating than the grooming scandal was the.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Whole thing began.
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: And I want to do a blow by blow because
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: the whole and I beg PO watched that at least
• 36:24
  Speaker 11: that portion it's a two hour podcast, at least watched
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: that like fifteen minutes of it, because it's so illuminating
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: and fascinating.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: So he's just sitting there and.
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: The whole thing began when he's talking about how great
• 36:35
  Speaker 11: AOC is and then Bill Maher responds with, well, if
• 36:39
  Speaker 11: she gets deprogrammed, and you see his face and he's like, what.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Are you talking about?
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: And Bill Maher's like, AOC is like a crazy leftist
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: and he goes, no, she's not, Like he didn't. He
• 36:49
  Speaker 11: doesn't even register that AOC is on the farm left.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: That's what's so crazy about it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 11: And then it goes and then it goes on. He's like,
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: you know they're talking about COVID. He's like, well, the
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: Democrat Party is the party of science and Bill.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Maher's like, uh no, they're not.
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: Like have you've seen the whole thing about gender and
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: how they refuse to acknowledge sex And he's like, I
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: don't know what you're talking about.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know what.
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: He's like, well, if they do is because they're weaponizing
• 37:14
  Speaker 11: it against trans people to scapegoat them. And Bill Mark
• 37:17
  Speaker 11: his credit is like, what exactly are the trans people skap.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Getting scapgoating for it?
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: I don't know what you're talking about. And he couldn't
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: come up with anything. Obviously, the whole thing was crazy.
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: Please go see it. But the best part was like, hey, no,
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: I'm not in this leftist bubble. I read the Guardian.
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: I can't do not That was the response. Yeah, you
• 37:36
  Speaker 11: know what I read.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Problem.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you very much.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But that's the Californian Left for you. They're just so
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: insulated from the real world and mainstream opinions across America.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: That's why they get so shocked when Trump happens and
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: he gets elected and wins quite easily. They just I
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: don't know anybody who would possibly support him.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Who knew Nicki Minaj would become the voice of reason
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and courage amongst celebrities. Today, she delivered a powerful speech
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: of the United Nations to highlight the persecution of Christians
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: in Nigeria. She started off by thanking President Donald Trump
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: for bringing attention to the issue.
• 38:20
  Speaker 13: I would like to thank President Trump for prioritizing this
• 38:24
  Speaker 13: issue and for his leadership on the global stage and
• 38:27
  Speaker 13: calling for urgent action to defend Christians in Nigeria, to
• 38:31
  Speaker 13: combat extremism and to bring a stop to violence against
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: those who simply want to exercise their natural right to
• 38:39
  Speaker 13: freedom of religion or belief. I stand here as a
• 38:44
  Speaker 13: proud New Yorker with a deep sense of gratitude that
• 38:47
  Speaker 13: we live in a country where we can freely and
• 38:50
  Speaker 13: safely worship God, regardless of one's creed, background or politics.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: And Nicki Minaj spoke of the plight of Christians in Nigeria,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: thousands of whom have been slaughtered by Islamists.
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: Faith is under attack in way too many places in Nigeria.
• 39:09
  Speaker 13: Christians are being targeted, driven from their homes and killed.
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: Churches have been burned, families have been torn apart, and
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: entire communities live in fear constantly simply because of how
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  Speaker 13: they pray Army.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to say, I'm impressed. I don't normally care
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  Speaker 2: for celebrity opinions, but she's bringing attention to something that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: is being actively ignored by so many. Even some of
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the reporting on this, they say alleged persecution of Christians
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: despite all the available evidence.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, look calm and as a member of the paid
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: member of the barbs, what can I tell you, Nicki Mina,
• 39:58
  Speaker 14: you were seeing I'll take the win where where I
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: can get it.
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  Speaker 3: Look, it's really yeah, it's interesting. You know.
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  Speaker 11: Yes, like you said, the way this is being kind
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  Speaker 11: of framed by the media is just so fascinating. You know,
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  Speaker 11: I read article after article about this, you know, CNN
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  Speaker 11: talking about this is really a nuanced and complex issue.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Really, is it really that nuanced? Right?
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: Like they cannot make Muslims the bad guy. They just
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: can't do it, no matter what the truth and the
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: facts tell you. Right, they cannot say that Christians are
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: being persecuted by Muslim people. They have to say like, well,
• 40:32
  Speaker 11: by the way, Muslim people are being killed too, which
• 40:35
  Speaker 11: is totally true, but they're being killed because they're not
• 40:37
  Speaker 11: being Islamic enough of these radicals in Nigeria, Right, they
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: leave that part out conveniently, you know, and so interesting, Like, no,
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  Speaker 11: they're given the number of Christians killed, they gave the
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: lowest number possible, sighted, right, Like all the numbers are
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  Speaker 11: between you know, thirty and sixty thousand, thirty five and
• 40:57
  Speaker 11: sixty thousand Christian civilians being killed, and they clearly twenty
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  Speaker 11: thousand number, which is an outlier number.
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  Speaker 3: It's so interesting, Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 11: Even even more fascinating is yet, when they're talking about
• 41:08
  Speaker 11: the number of civilians killed at Gaza right, thirty or
• 41:12
  Speaker 11: fifty thousand. Look, protests across the street, outrage across the globe.
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  Speaker 11: But when Christians are being murder in Nigeria or is
• 41:20
  Speaker 11: Line people being killed for not being Islamic enough, total quiet,
• 41:24
  Speaker 11: then it becomes complex and nuanced. I don't see any
• 41:27
  Speaker 11: encampments going on, right, do you? I didn't you know.
• 41:30
  Speaker 11: Look the left, they don't care about black people being killed.
• 41:33
  Speaker 11: I guess they only care about Palestini is going to
• 41:35
  Speaker 11: be killed by Jews. I don't know what I tell you,
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  Speaker 11: That's what I see from those numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got to say Nicki Minaj was a lot
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: more eloquent than Carti b Remember she Spoikata Kamala rally
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: did not go well. Now, there was a lot of
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: pomp and ceremony at the White House for the state
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: visit of Saudi Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salomon. Let's have
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: a look at President Trump green the Crown Prince, and
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: they had fruitful discussions, with the Crown Prince announcing a
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: massive boost to investment in the US.
• 42:16
  Speaker 15: We believe in what you're doing, mister President's really creating
• 42:19
  Speaker 15: a lot of good things and good foundation to create
• 42:23
  Speaker 15: more economical growth, more business in America, and it will
• 42:26
  Speaker 15: also your work for the world piece, I believe, mister President.
• 42:32
  Speaker 15: Today and tomorrow we're going to announce that we are
• 42:33
  Speaker 15: going to increase that six hundred billion to almost one
• 42:36
  Speaker 15: trillion dollars of investment, real investment and real opportunity by
• 42:40
  Speaker 15: details in many areas and the agreement that we are
• 42:43
  Speaker 15: signing today in many areas and technology in AI Army.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Six hundred billion to a trillion in new investment. The
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: US Saudi relationship is just it's strengthening further.
• 42:58
  Speaker 11: Yeah, a trillion here, truly there Soon we're talking about
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: real money. Or you know, look, let me let me
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: start with stuff I didn't love and then we'll go
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: to the stuff that I love. Right, Not A big
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: fan of the Saudis gat F thirty five, So I
• 43:12
  Speaker 11: gotta tell you, I don't like Arabs having that kind
• 43:14
  Speaker 11: of technology, particularly with technology transfers.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Don't really look. I like the move, the move they're
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: going in.
• 43:20
  Speaker 11: Don't totally trust them at this point, certainly on you know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 11: a fan of the Abraham Accords, look get that in
• 43:26
  Speaker 11: the second and look didn't love also the whole when
• 43:32
  Speaker 11: they brought kashogi, which is a legitimate question to ask.
• 43:35
  Speaker 11: The Saudi security service literally dismembered a man, okay and
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: put him a suitcase ta get rid of him.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Not a huge fan of.
• 43:42
  Speaker 11: That and didn't like when Trump was like, well, you know, some.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: People didn't like the guy.
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: Fine, Okay, I get it now. Having said that, finally,
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: look what do we have with with with four years
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: of Biden, we had him pushing the Saudish. This is
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: we are as much as I don't trust a this
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: is real politique at its finest. Okay, you deal with
• 44:04
  Speaker 11: the people who are there and him pushing the Saudis
• 44:08
  Speaker 11: away for years, how the Saudis pivot toward who not England,
• 44:13
  Speaker 11: not France. They pivoted toward the other powers in the world.
• 44:17
  Speaker 11: They pivot toward China, they pivoted toward Russia. That's not
• 44:21
  Speaker 11: good for the United States. That is not good for
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: peace around the world. They even started flirting with engaging
• 44:27
  Speaker 11: with Iran because they were afraid of being left out
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: in the cold with the Bio administracing pulling them and
• 44:34
  Speaker 11: pushing them off to the side. Okay, that's the way
• 44:36
  Speaker 11: we work. This is the reality of politics. Having them
• 44:41
  Speaker 11: join the Abraham Accords, which is clearly the direction we're
• 44:44
  Speaker 11: going in, is an absolute.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Game changer for the Middle East. Okay, the Abram Cord.
• 44:48
  Speaker 11: Was big enough as it is, and let's be honest,
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: the Gulf States would not have signed up without Saudi assent,
• 44:53
  Speaker 11: but the Saudi's actually put their name. A normalization with
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: the State of Israel is something massive and also puts
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: the Palestinians in a difficult position and would lead to
• 45:05
  Speaker 11: an eventual peace between the Palestinians and the Israellies. Okay,
• 45:09
  Speaker 11: instead of what we had during the by administration. The
• 45:12
  Speaker 11: Houthis continue to bomb all across the Middle East because
• 45:17
  Speaker 11: they're out of control because he would not support the
• 45:19
  Speaker 11: Saudis in his war against the Houthis.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: That's the situation we find ourselves.
• 45:24
  Speaker 11: And so Kudoo's the President having them come to the
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: White House, and kudos to pushing forward with Abraham Corps.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: And there was a sign that relations between Elin Musk
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and President Trump have improved. Musk was at the White
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: House dinner for the Crown Prince. Of course they came
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: together after that little tiff. They had Charlie Kirk's funeral
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: in Phoenix and it seems like things are improving there. Armies,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: stay with me. We're going to go to a quick break,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and we've got plenty more to talk about, including the
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: release of the Epstein files. Welcome back now. The House
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to force the Department of Justice
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: to release the Epstein files. Several of Epstein's survivors were
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: present in the House chamber during the vote. There were
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: cheers when the resolution passed. Army, the Democrats pushed for
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: this after sitting on the report for how long. It's
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: just fascinating to see this turnaround where they suddenly this
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: is the number one issue for them.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is interesting.
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: Look from a tactical perspective, I think Trump should have
• 46:43
  Speaker 11: done this earlier, but you kind of feels the kind.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Of pressure into it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: The House voted was built to release all the information,
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: and the Senate can go on to Trump's desk and
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: he will sign it. And like Trump said, He's like, look,
• 46:58
  Speaker 11: this is more of a problem than a me problem. R.
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: This is more of a democratic problem than a Republican problem.
• 47:05
  Speaker 11: And you know, how do we know that? Well, this
• 47:08
  Speaker 11: is how this is not a bigger story out of
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: Republican conservative media. I don't understand. But a A a
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: Democratic representative Right for the Virgin Islands was literally texting
• 47:21
  Speaker 11: with Epstein during the hearing when she was questioning Michael Cohen.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, she was taking directions from Epstein.
• 47:29
  Speaker 11: It's unbelievable this isn't a bigger issue on CNN and MSNBC, now, Okay,
• 47:35
  Speaker 11: it is crazy. And her defense was, y'all don't know me.
• 47:39
  Speaker 11: Uh yeah, we do, we do.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: How do I know this is not an issue for Trump?
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: That Trump is not involved in this at all?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: We know it? Why?
• 47:48
  Speaker 11: Because Biden had all this information. If Trump was in it,
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: you don't think he would have released it. Of course
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: he would have. That's why this is not a Trump issue.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Okay. I think tactically he made.
• 47:57
  Speaker 11: A mistake not doing this, But at the end of
• 47:59
  Speaker 11: the day, it's really going to be a non issue.
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: It's the Russia, Russia, Russia thing all over again. I
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: think the fascinating part is these strange bedfellows right with
• 48:09
  Speaker 11: the right, the hard right, and the left. And you
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: see Steve Bannon, who was by the way, also a
• 48:16
  Speaker 11: friend of Epstein not list a friend, but he was
• 48:18
  Speaker 11: helping Epstein. Epstein was emailing with him on what to dude.
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: He was advising him on how to get the pr
• 48:23
  Speaker 11: issues he had. Why is Steve Bannon making this issue
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: because he hates Donald Trump hates his policies. The whold
• 48:28
  Speaker 11: thing with Marjorie Taylor Green right, she's now she was
• 48:32
  Speaker 11: on the view. Jimmy Kimba loved her. Do you hear
• 48:34
  Speaker 11: Jamie Raskin said he wants to be part of the
• 48:37
  Speaker 11: Democratic Party. What is happening? It's all crazy, It's out
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: of control.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Are you so right that? The twenty nineteen was when
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: f Stein was texting with a Democrat during a congressional
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: hearing pretty much giving instructions. It looked like and we've
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: had the likes of the King Jeffries soliciting money from
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: who was a prolific Democrat donor, and not enough has
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: said about that. He was a Democrat and he put
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: his money where his beliefs were. It's going to be
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: fascinating what's there. But I think people do have to
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: be careful because there will be names that have done
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong, that have absolutely no wrongdoing. And if you
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: go accusing them of being sex offenders or pedophiles. You're
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: probably going to get some defamation lawsuits coming your way.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: So I think people just need to be a little
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: bit rational here, a little bit measured when this list
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: is released. Army, Army, it's always a pleasure. Thanks so
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: much for your time, and that's all the time we
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: have tonight. I'll see you tomorrow night at eleven up.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Next it's Newsnight.