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Exclusive Dave Roberts convo: Inside the WS run, 2025 preview · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Manny made the right play, and so for me to
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  Speaker 1: yell or to fire up my team for something he did,
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  Speaker 1: and I look like the idiot, and I don't like
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  Speaker 1: looking like an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome to a very edition of Dodgers' Territory.
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  Speaker 2: We are live at camel Backer Ant, home of course
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  Speaker 2: of the Los Angeles Dodgers. I am Alona Rizzo. That
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  Speaker 2: is clymt Pesius. But more importantly, we are so happy
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  Speaker 2: and privileged to be joined by two times World Series
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  Speaker 2: champion as a manager, three times if you count being
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  Speaker 2: a player, Dave Robert, who is kind enough to want
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  Speaker 2: to have a sit down with us and kind of
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  Speaker 2: go through the mindset of a manager trying to get
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  Speaker 2: his team to the postseason. So, first of all, how
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  Speaker 2: was your day?
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  Speaker 1: Today was a great day as we sit here in
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  Speaker 1: real time. We won a ballgame. Yoshinobu pitch today. He
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  Speaker 1: got through five innings. He was really good today and
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  Speaker 1: guy swung the bats. And so we're one day. Actually
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  Speaker 1: we got two more days, one more game Tweed leave
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  Speaker 1: for Tokyo. So it's been a good camp thus far.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I wanted to raise the glass to you,
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  Speaker 2: not for anything that happened on March tenth. But because
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  Speaker 2: you were a World Series champion, I've not been able
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  Speaker 2: to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Cheers, cheers.
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  Speaker 2: I've not been able to see you since.
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  Speaker 1: Troph Thank you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I know that we wanted to talk about a couple
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  Speaker 2: of scenarios within the series itself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this would be fun.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to before we get into the
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  Speaker 2: World Series. Let's talk about the pivotal game obviously in
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  Speaker 2: five in the DS where you had to win against
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  Speaker 2: the potteris before we get into the World Series, and
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  Speaker 2: how critical it was for you, Dave mentally, not obviously
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  Speaker 2: you need to move on, but mentally just to get
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  Speaker 2: over that hump.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what it's interesting is that I got
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  Speaker 1: asked this question actually by media today and they said,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think the key is for winning the
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  Speaker 1: World Series in twenty five? And I think for me
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  Speaker 1: it really kind of came real true to me. It
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  Speaker 1: was very clear was getting to a long series, getting
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  Speaker 1: to the CS. And I say that because obviously that
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  Speaker 1: makes sense, but I just think with our ball club,
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  Speaker 1: as talented as we are and have been, if you
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  Speaker 1: just don't give yourself a chance to get to a
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  Speaker 1: seven game series where the baths can get going, which
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen two and three years ago for our club.
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  Speaker 1: But I think if you can get to that third series,
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  Speaker 1: then you can start to kind of catch your breath
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. And that's why in Game five against
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  Speaker 1: the Padres, obviously we were down two to one in
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  Speaker 1: that series, and then we ran out a bullpen game
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  Speaker 1: and Game four and just kind of use it exhausted
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  Speaker 1: everything to just get to a pivotal Game five and
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  Speaker 1: you know, let's just get home. And so with Game five,
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  Speaker 1: you've got you Darvish and it's like man and any
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  Speaker 1: night you can shut you down. And we sort of
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  Speaker 1: just hung in there Pitcher's duel and then I think
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  Speaker 1: it was a Will Smith Smith Homer late, but I
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  Speaker 1: will say winning the World Series was so joyous and
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  Speaker 1: just every thing but that winning that Game five, just
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  Speaker 1: get to the long series, get past the Padres, who
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  Speaker 1: were really playing great baseball at the time. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was equally as invigorating for me, and I think we.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of saw that shine through in the parade in
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  Speaker 3: every media opportunity you had afterwards. It's just the relief
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  Speaker 3: of getting past that and the joy of knowing. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you had these guys backs and the team rallied around
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  Speaker 3: each other. Of course you had that September kind of
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  Speaker 3: meeting to calvinize the troops after you guys learned that
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  Speaker 3: Glass now is not coming back to help you out,
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  Speaker 3: and just seeing everybody come together play for each other.
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  Speaker 3: And you haven't had a better group of guys. And
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  Speaker 3: I believe you when you say that, because this was
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  Speaker 3: You've had some special teams in ten seasons, and this
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  Speaker 3: one was different.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was Clinton, and I think that and
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  Speaker 1: it's no slide on any of the clubs that we've had,
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  Speaker 1: and certainly the twenty club, which I loved. Then we
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  Speaker 1: won a championship, and I love every club, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: But I just think that you know, and you know
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  Speaker 1: you look back. Yet there's so many different moments last
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  Speaker 1: year where the guys certainly had my back. I showed
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  Speaker 1: them that either back and even example just top of
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  Speaker 1: mind is I think it was in that Game four
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  Speaker 1: series we pitched Michael Kopek in the fourth inning, I
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  Speaker 1: think third or fourth inning where this guy closed games
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  Speaker 1: and he didn't bat and I when when I asked him,
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  Speaker 1: said to pitch in the fourth inning, and it was
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  Speaker 1: what was good for the ball club, or maybe in
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  Speaker 1: years past there there's a little bit of not upheaval,
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  Speaker 1: but there was just one hundred percent buy in and
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  Speaker 1: that's just a microcosm of our ball club.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to the World Series here, because we have
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  Speaker 2: you for a limited amount of time and we definitely
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about this Game one. Let's speak to
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  Speaker 2: the scouting report about the New York Yankees going into
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  Speaker 2: that series. Dave, what are you trying to accomplish?
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  Speaker 1: Well, obviously, going to that series, we're trying to win
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  Speaker 1: game one. It's certainly they were the best team all
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  Speaker 1: year in the American League. I felt we were the
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  Speaker 1: best team all year in the National League. And so
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  Speaker 1: something that you knew that hadn't happened since eighty one,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was. And we're all excited, and so
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  Speaker 1: I think you're just trying to figure out a way.
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  Speaker 1: We had I think four days off going into that series,
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  Speaker 1: so our relievers are ready. Jack Flaherty came on huge
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  Speaker 1: for us at the trade deadline, pitch big for us,
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  Speaker 1: and we had him going Game one, and I think
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  Speaker 1: we had Yamamoto lined up for game two and Walker
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  Speaker 1: for Game three, and we felt giving Jack the home
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  Speaker 1: game game one, having Yamamoto pitch at home, and then
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  Speaker 1: having Walker, who's pitched in a lot of big games
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  Speaker 1: going into Yankee say, and we felt good about the matchup. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Game one it was a tight ball game,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it was like one of those things
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  Speaker 1: for me as a manager, you're sort of just letting
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  Speaker 1: the game play out. I think for me it's like two, three, four,
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  Speaker 1: And if you start watching the pitch count, appreciating how
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  Speaker 1: much longer the pitcher your starter can go and what
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  Speaker 1: type of it bats they're having a against that starter,
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  Speaker 1: and to see, you know, at what point if it
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  Speaker 1: becomes somewhat stressful, do I need to pivot?
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  Speaker 2: Are you thinking though with the defense, Clint? Of course,
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  Speaker 2: you know Yankees defense has been a little bit problematic
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  Speaker 2: over the course of the series. You're thinking, all right,
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  Speaker 2: if it's close, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Not gonna go Joe Kelly. But I I just think that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I thought I knew we were very fundamental too.
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  Speaker 1: I really believe that we run the base as well.
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  Speaker 1: But I but in the advanced scouting there were things that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there might be some Aaran throws just run balls out.
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  Speaker 1: There might be a miss cut off man, so you've
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  Speaker 1: got to and right there obviously. Yeah, and then so
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  Speaker 1: there it's like you got to keep your head up.
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  Speaker 1: They might miscut off man, cut off men and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. So that's some stuff that was in our
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  Speaker 1: thought process as we prepared. And right there, there's one
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  Speaker 1: out right there that's a huge play obviously, and we're
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  Speaker 1: down to one at that point in time, and show
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  Speaker 1: Hey runs hard, keeps his head up, ball gets away
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  Speaker 1: from Glabor, advances third base, and it sets up a
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  Speaker 1: sack Fally situation. So a two to one ball game
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  Speaker 1: in the sixth versus a two to two ball game
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  Speaker 1: at home is a huge is a game change.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that run doesn't happen. You don't get to history
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  Speaker 3: with Freddie Freeman. You don't get to Nestor Cortez. We
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  Speaker 3: don't need to get into that either.
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  Speaker 1: His that we'll get to that, we'll get there.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you don't get to that point where it's
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  Speaker 3: tim Hill. How do you not how does Aaron Boone
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  Speaker 3: not to question his decision making there? But it's still
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  Speaker 3: to see Nester come in before that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the offense with show Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean just being able to do all of the
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  Speaker 2: different things that this club wanted to do. I mean
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  Speaker 2: everything show Hey, Freeman up and down the lineup, and
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  Speaker 2: obviously in Game five will get to the fifth inning.
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  Speaker 2: But there's got to be a sense of how different
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  Speaker 2: of a feeling is it as a manager, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: just waiting for the game to unfold, but the pressure
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  Speaker 2: of having to to want to take that pivotal game.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like all the even games, right, that's so pivotal.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. It just sets the tone for the series.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know the numbers of what team wins
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  Speaker 1: Game one wins the world sis, I don't know that,
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  Speaker 1: but I just I do know that those guys coming
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  Speaker 1: into our place to win Game one, they kind of
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  Speaker 1: took the series to control the series when you know
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  Speaker 1: you got potentially three games at home, and especially obviously
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  Speaker 1: you guys know really well that everything is magnified. But
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  Speaker 1: Game one, I thought the crowd was so into it
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  Speaker 1: all game for nine innings and then or ten innings,
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  Speaker 1: and so that was just a huge game for us.
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  Speaker 1: And I do think that if we didn't win Game one,
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  Speaker 1: I thought I thought it would would go to seven games. Really, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just think that they would have just found this confidence.
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  Speaker 1: And I do believe that the pressure for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: I know that they felt that. I can't speak to
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  Speaker 1: their pressure, but it would have sort of mounted for
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  Speaker 1: us just to win again. And I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: just felt that the winning Game one is kind of
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  Speaker 1: and you saw. I mean, and I'm sure we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about it, but Freddie's homer, it was almost like we
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  Speaker 1: had won the World Series after no doubt in Game one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't see teams usually go out on the
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  Speaker 3: field and celebrate the way that team did. But there's
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  Speaker 3: something about all of what we're talking about a little
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  Speaker 3: bit ago, the galvanizing people playing for each other, how
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  Speaker 3: important that moment was, how banged up Freddy was during
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  Speaker 3: that postseason, and to be able to put his team,
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  Speaker 3: that whole clubhouse, all you guys on his back in
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  Speaker 3: that moment, running out there taking the first pitch fastball
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  Speaker 3: and there you know, she's gone. It's pretty special to see.
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  Speaker 2: Were you surprised that? And I know that you and
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  Speaker 2: Booner close minus the usc UCLA.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: Are you surprised to see Nestor there, I mean left
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  Speaker 2: on left obviously with Freddy. But are you surprised it
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  Speaker 2: was Nestor and not Tim Hill?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I I We were debating because they
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  Speaker 1: were both getting loose. And obviously there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: conversations that managers have and you know, with their coaches,
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  Speaker 1: with the front office, and obviously you know Ness was
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  Speaker 1: in the pen for a reason. And I don't know obviously,
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  Speaker 1: and I have and I am close with Aaron, but
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  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to him about the reason behind it.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been in that seat before where you go
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  Speaker 1: with essentially your better pitcher who is a starter, but
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  Speaker 1: he's not in his particular role, and so you go
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  Speaker 1: with that guy versus the guy who's done it tried
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  Speaker 1: and true. And obviously you know Tim Hill had a
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  Speaker 1: great postseason. But it's one of those things. I just
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  Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive because if Tim Hill would have come
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  Speaker 1: in and given up Homer to show, hey, which he's
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  Speaker 1: a low ball type guy, and show he's a low
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  Speaker 1: ball hitter, then you it could have been argued that
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  Speaker 1: you didn't bring in your best pitcher. And so it is,
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  Speaker 1: and then as a manager, that's it, and if you
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  Speaker 1: look right here. I felt really good about show Hey
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  Speaker 1: right there, and then he pops up and so the
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  Speaker 1: interesting thing is that I let out aside right there.
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  Speaker 1: But this is something that obviously, if we still have
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  Speaker 1: first and second base, then I do believe that they
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  Speaker 1: would have went to Mooky and pitched to him. But
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  Speaker 1: then you've got Freddy on deck with the open bass,
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  Speaker 1: because right there with Alex throwing the ball from out
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  Speaker 1: of play, those two guys event so now you have
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  Speaker 1: an open bass. And I will say this is there's
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  Speaker 1: no way I'm gonna let mooki Bets beat me being
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  Speaker 1: right handed versus Nestor Cortes, And I think that just
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  Speaker 1: kind of made the decision easy for them, and it
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  Speaker 1: obviously just didn't work out.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get to those Nester Cortes comments. There's one
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  Speaker 3: team that got the hoistat Trophy, one team that's getting
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  Speaker 3: a ring in a couple of weeks. What are your
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  Speaker 3: kind of thoughts about what Nestor had to say the
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  Speaker 3: Yankees being the better team.
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  Speaker 2: Because you kind of said if you if they win
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  Speaker 2: game one, it goes to seven. So does he have
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  Speaker 2: a point there?
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  Speaker 1: I honestly did not hear all of his comments. I
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  Speaker 1: have no problem with feeling that they're the better team,
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  Speaker 1: because I'll tell you this is I've lived it where
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  Speaker 1: we've lost division series. We've lost CS's two teams that
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  Speaker 1: I thought we were better than, but in that particular series,
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  Speaker 1: they outdueled us. I still again feel that we were
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  Speaker 1: the better team and the best team won. But I
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  Speaker 1: understand his thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So now Freddy Freeman sent his ass to Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go. We had done enough to win that game.
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  Speaker 2: Cortes said, they can talk whatever they want to talk,
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  Speaker 2: but we win game one, which we should have. We
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  Speaker 2: lost two and three. We win Game four and we
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  Speaker 2: should have won Game five. Then we go back to
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  Speaker 2: LA up three to two. Yes, I mean he has
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  Speaker 2: the point there, but Dave, as you know, it should have,
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  Speaker 2: could have would have. So people can say it slipped
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  Speaker 2: away from us. People can say we made a lot
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  Speaker 2: of mistakes, which we did, but at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, we were the better team. I see it
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  Speaker 2: that way, and I'm sure everybody in that clubhouse sees
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  Speaker 2: it that way. The reality could have been going back
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  Speaker 2: to LA leading three too. It didn't happen that way,
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  Speaker 2: and they deserve all the credit in the world. They
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  Speaker 2: won the World Series at the moment they showed they
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  Speaker 2: were the better team. So that's a bigger picture of
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  Speaker 2: what nestra. And you want a guy Dave thinking like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we were the better team, but in fact, you know,
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  Speaker 2: could have should have a little bit too late.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and we did play better. We were the
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  Speaker 1: best team all year and the record states that. But
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  Speaker 1: but absolutely, I want all my guys to feel that
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  Speaker 1: they're the best team. And but obviously people don't like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, crying over Bill Milk. There you go, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for that all.
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  Speaker 3: So you get a whole home great outing from Yamamoto.
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  Speaker 3: Game two Dodgers looking for a sweep. Of course, we
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  Speaker 3: eventually get through a Game five. You want to talk
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  Speaker 3: Game four, you want to take top Game five?
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  Speaker 1: Are here? Gosh, I mean we can talk Game four,
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  Speaker 1: but it's uh. I think Game four is good in
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  Speaker 1: the sense that I think as we it's good sometimes
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  Speaker 1: to look back, where I am a very look forward
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  Speaker 1: type person, but I think the looking back gives people context,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Game four. I don't like to concede
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  Speaker 1: games and I hate losing games, but the series are
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  Speaker 1: set up in a way that you're you're the best team,
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  Speaker 1: the first team to win four games, and so right
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  Speaker 1: there it was essentially a bullpen day for us. Ben
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  Speaker 1: Conspiras I think started that game, and then Huddy was
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  Speaker 1: just off and we got behind the eight ball. And
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  Speaker 1: then I thought, Knack, Land and Knack, you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you're up three zero and you
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  Speaker 1: got to win one more game. And so right there,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do damage control knowing that we got
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  Speaker 1: potentially three games in a row without an off day,
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  Speaker 1: and so Land and Ac pitch as well. And then
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  Speaker 1: right there we're still behind, and I just didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: it was smart to fire our higher guns, our leverage guys.
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  Speaker 1: And then at that point in time, Brent Honeywell came
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  Speaker 1: in and God bless him, man, God bless them man,
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  Speaker 1: and a funny little anecdote that's right, No, that's true,
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  Speaker 1: and God bless him, and even Mark Fryars talking and
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  Speaker 1: Mark afterwards and he told them and he went out
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  Speaker 1: for a visit at some point and he's it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: take as much time as you want to catch your breath,
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  Speaker 1: but you're not coming out of this game. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: wear this one. And the thing is, though, is that
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  Speaker 1: Honey knew he was gonna wear it and he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: gonna come out of that game, and so he stayed in,
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  Speaker 1: took his medicine, allowed us not to use anyone else
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  Speaker 1: to then get ready for game five. Because I will
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  Speaker 1: tell you this is that if we would use even
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  Speaker 1: one more picture in game four and then to have
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  Speaker 1: that person go back to back and potentially not available
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  Speaker 1: for game five, game five might have been different because
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  Speaker 1: we were down to our last picture actually a picture
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  Speaker 1: we didn't want to use expect to use in game five.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you balance the fact that you don't
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  Speaker 2: like to concede games, which many people, myself included was like,
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm a fan, I hear you and I
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  Speaker 1: but how do.
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  Speaker 2: You balance not wanting to concede a game with knowing
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  Speaker 2: you have to manage for a seven game series as
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  Speaker 2: a picture. When you're as a manager, when you're so competitive,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to think big picture, and that sometimes like people,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you know, us idiots in the media or the fans
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: or whatever, don't see big picture. How do you balance
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: that as a competitor but also being responsible to get
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: your team at the very least to Game seven.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard because I think that you know,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: when you go to Vegas and it's a bad analogy,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I guess, But when you go to Vegas and you're
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: just chasing your loss and you keep chasing, it's just
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: a bad strategy. And there's a time to no one
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: to say when, or as Kenny Rodgers says, no one
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: hold them, no one to call them right. And I
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: think that certain games you just have to understand that
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: this is not even an analytical thing, but it's an
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: analytical word. It's the probability to come back and win
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: is very small, and then you've got to be willing
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: to risk whatever you're going to risk, and in this case,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: we're talking about high leverage leavers for a chance that's
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: still small, right, and appreciate the fact that they're going
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to use their high leverage guys to kind of minimize
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: run scoring. And so I think that at that point
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: in time three zero, it was a lot easier. I
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: think we did it in the met series and the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: CS at their place, and honeywell did it that time
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: really well. And again that I think was a little
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: bit harder. When you're up three zero. That was an
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: easier kind of reset win one of the next three
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: potential game that was easier than the met series.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to talk about game five when
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: we come back with a World Series champion. Manager Dave
• 17:24
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  Speaker 3: So, Dave, if we're talking game five, I'm gonna go
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: back to that game four, and you already talked about
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: it here in not having your best version of Danny
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Hudson out there given what he could what was left
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: in that arm and one of the things I'm sitting
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: there watching both of the games, and I'm sure this
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: is probably a criticism. I'm very interested in exploring the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: mind further, which you already touched on here. But what
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: makes game five a must win versus that game four,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: where again Hudey didn't have it so much, but you
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: pulled the lever early, I think to get to Copek
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: there in the third inning. What was kind of that
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: that mindset.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: To get to that. Yeah, So I think that the
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: difference is because then you start to understand obviously game
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: score inning and then in game five where we spotted
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: him five runs and you know, Jack just wasn't sharp
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that that night, and Brazier I felt that we could
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: pitch him that day, even being down for zero and
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: still having an opportunity to come back in the game,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: so you can still use a guy that you trust
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and keep the game close, right, and so he ends
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: up giving up a homer, so then it's five zero.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: So I think my point is at that point in time,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you're trying to think about what guys are you going
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to use that would be a costs for the potential
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: next day. And so at that point time, I felt
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: good with Kopek being able to pitch game five and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: game six, so right there, at that point in time,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: there was no cost. And so once we did that
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and we're still down five to zero, then Grattarol comes in,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and again I felt Graderol was a guy that was
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a tweener in the sense that
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: he's a leverage guy. I felt that he could pitch
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: an inning for us. Actually, in that point in time,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I thought Grat could pitch two innings, yeah, because he's
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: typically an efficient pitcher, and I was willing to have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: him down for Game six if there was a Game six,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to have him ready within off with two off days
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to pitch multiples for a game seven. So that's kind
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: of my theory my thought going into that moment when
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I launched Gratterol and then Grat got squeezed on a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: couple of calls I think one being Judge or Stanton
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: for and then he walked a couple guys. He just
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't sharp, ye, And then so I think it was
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: a fifth inning where I decided to Then it was
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: bases loaded to us, and I think this was the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: biggest moment of the game for me in the sense
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of we're down six' five at the, Time grat giving
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: up a run us on a sackfly and then but two,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: outs bases, loaded And i've got to make a decision right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Now is Because grat's already not going to do another
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: inning after that because his pitch count was, Up so
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: DO i take a chance on him walking a? GUY
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: i think it, was, yeah walking somebody or if he
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: gives up the base, HIT i just felt that it
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: just made our odds our chance of winning that particular
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: game very, small and then we're in a tough. Spot
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: SO i Launched blake so right. THERE i just felt
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: That blake needed to stop it right, there and less,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: did And god bless it he, did and to get
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: out of that, inning minimize the, damage which he, did
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and then give our offense a chance because we had
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: come back in that fifth inning to make it a
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: game and still down six.' five i just felt that
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: our guys gave us every opportunity to. Fight back so
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: on the bottom of the, fifth thing that's when we
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Went to blake and the plan was for him to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: do an up down and then he went up got
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: a clean sixth and then or a, Clean fifth, i'm
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: sorry a, clean fifth and then at that, point time
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it was kind of inning to inning and we just
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: didn't have a lot more in the arsenal left.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: To me the fifth, inning though after coming back, from,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: behind obviously and then that One The, world series, to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: me that come, from behind even When the yankees took
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the lead six, TO five, i said were, Winning, this yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: And our players felt that and that's another, reason obviously
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you know you talk about the, judgments play which is
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: ironically that was the only air he made. All year
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: But key k's base running and getting in the Line,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Of volpi mookie HITTING a q shot but giving us
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a hard ninety, and actually are YOU know R and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: d guy said That was mookie's fastest time to. FIRST
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: base i mean what a.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Time for, it though and break down because You Have
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: aaron judge bottling, the ball which he. Never does you
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Have key k with the route that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Getting it going and just fighting and you know post
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: route that he Runs.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: And machado did it to us in the IN. The
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: ds but it's, you know it could be, gamesmanship whatever
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: but you think, about it that's running hard out OF the,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: i mean everything had to.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Go well that's the most impressive, part too is he
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Gets In aaron judge's head a little, bit there but
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: to have the wherewithal to get.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: To but still get to second base, right there and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: That's key and then right there he bows out and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: gets In uh jazz's. Throwing lane and those are little
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: things that we talked about where he could have went
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: straight to, the back but he bowed out as an
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: infield and what he did is get, in jazzway so
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: we couldn't get over there and field that ball.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: And Probably knowing jazz is and it doesn't come up
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: as a. Third, baseman no, that's right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That's right there's just a lot of little subtleties and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Nuances that i'm just really proud as a coach that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that's what. We do, you know because even as, You,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: said clint You assume aaron's going to catch, a baseball
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you had probably as a base runner retreat back to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: first base and then get. Forced Out but. Kyk didn't
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: he kept his head up and extended. The inning and
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: those are little things that you look back, and, say,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: hey yeah we scored, five runs But there's mooki right
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: there busting. His tail and earlier in, THE game i
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: think it was the, same Play but rizzo took it
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on his own and THAT'S what I thought garrett assumed
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: at that, point Time and Freddie, being freddie and then
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it sets the Stage for tail with the big double
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and you can see the anks, right there and our
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: guys are really starting to. FEEL it, i.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Mean that's the. Thing too we didn't even talk about
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the fact That Neither garrett Cole Nor anthony rizzo covered
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: first base talking baseball one oh, one There and i'm
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: sure both guys thought the other one. Was COVERING but,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: i mean you got to, take it especially in the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: postseason with everything under. A microscope don't you have to
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: take advantage of? Those moments you.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Absolutely do, you know you get twenty, seven outs you play,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: nine innings and you just can't give up ninety, feet
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: walks plays that you don't convert out and give teams.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Extra outs and, we saw we showed it. All year
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: if you give our ball club, extra outs then we're
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: going to. Take advantage and that's what. WE did, i mean,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: you know we had twenty, seven OUTS but i think
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: in this inning, right there you know you're we probably,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: got gifted, you know four, more outs and you know
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you saw.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: The results how are you able to manage calmly when
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the world around you is losing its?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Collective shit, you know it's it's one thing when you're in,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: my chair you. INSULATE yourself i think that there's just
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: not a lot of upside to get more thoughts, or
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: NOISE as i like, to say in my own decision,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Making process i've got, Great coaches i've got a great,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: front office And so i've got, great players and so
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversations, going on and that's plenty
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: for me to take On, VERSUS obviously i know the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: magnitude of this series and what it Means to dodger
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: fans and what it means to ownership and. OUR players
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: i absolutely.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Get that, you know we can't talk About The world
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: series without first getting through. Those podres and obviously there
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: was a lot on.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: That.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Whole narrative last couple of years didn't go, so well
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: things come. Out Well but game three bit of an.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Interesting one we had the, conversation about, you know why
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Aren't there dodgers getting out there making a fuss About the,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: machado play which it's. Illegal PLAY but i know some
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: fans you Go, on twitter don't Go, on twitter but
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: you go. On there people, ARE like i don't why
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: is nobody out there? Nobody complaining that was our thought process,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: as well what's kind of going through your head there
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: knowing that you are in? Enemy territory you know How
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Loud petco, park was and not trying to give them
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: something else to, fuel THEM because i think that was
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: another huge pivotal part in. The story it's a long
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: story that. We're reading that was one chapter in. The
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: story you, KNOW what i just THINK that i just do.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: NOT believe i think that. Fans love fans, are emotional.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: They're fanatical that's kind of the short term. Of fans,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: and so, First off manny's play. Was, Legal yeah AND
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: so i just think that fans have a feel that
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: there's a correlation to a manager getting upset and then
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: that equates, to yeah that equates to like success on a.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Baseball field there's. No CORRELATION and i would argue that
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: more emotion Is less it takes away from the calmness
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and the focus of, the players and so, so yeah
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: AND also i THINK that i picked my spots to.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: BE emotional i have a lot of, individual discussions but
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: at the end of, The day manny made the. Right
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: play and so for me to yell or to fire
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: up my team for something, he DID then i look like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the IDIOT and i don't like looking like.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: An idiot and Then Again, petco park all of, a
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: sudden they get.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: More involved, that's right. That's RIGHT and i will say
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: this is that even at, our place like you saw
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that with the profar stuff in left field where they
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: use that as. A, mantra right it's us against, the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: World the, Dodger fans and so they meet out in
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: left field and they they're going kumbaya arms around, each
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: other and so that STUFF that i see where, it's,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: like okay but that's what's going to fuel them to
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: kind Of Combat dodger stadium and you beat The. Mighty,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Dodgers yeah and.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Just to cap, it Off, AND rez i want you
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to take over, From here but, FOR me i think
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: it's as important to hear it. From you here's something
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: like that for all of us that watch a game
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and understand. The, moment yeah we can be pissed and
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: think what's going? On here BUT then i say that all,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: the time but then we go AND watch i watched
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: you know that game back last night on YouTube shout
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: out YouTube, sponsor us And and, i'm, like, okay listen
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: there's a there's a rhyme and, a reason and it
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: was the right. Right move you're pretty dang good at.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Your job, but, STILL like i, get, IT absolutely i
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: imagine you in.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: That. Seat no but but the thing IS that i
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: just feel that it's you know we play one sixty
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: two and then we get into. The, postseason yeah and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's like you've got to be somewhat. Of it you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Gotta be you got to remain steadfast. And calm. No
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: player you can ask any player and any head coach
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: or manager that is riding the wave of emotions like
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the players do as they should and, mostly do but most.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Some don't let alone fans and you just as like
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: people look to someone as stability and, so consistency and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that's SOMETHING that, i BELIEVE and i know it kind
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: of breaks, people's HEART but i.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Else is going. To start, That's right. That's right it's
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: like as, a parent if you start to, freak out
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: your kids are going to. Freak out what was the
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: timeline Of Giving walker bueller the ball in? THE night,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: i mean now we Heard From mark bryor that Was
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: like connie gets on the bus and, he's like, you
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: know if things, go CRAZY then i. Got it, You
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: know i'm on.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: The bus how?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Is that oh, my gosh, You.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Guys so i'm literally on the Bus with walker and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: He Texts brandon GOMES our Gm and andrew and, thank
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: goodness he didn't put me on this thread, that hey
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: if something gets and his word was. Wonky ready and
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Then so gohmer texts me and, says hey or actually
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: showed me, the TEXT and, i Go, tell, walker no,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: thanks you and SO literally I, tell gohmer tell, him no.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you but then so we get into. The game
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: and then as this game, plays out the fifth inning,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: plays out and that Was so walker has his. Jacket
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: on he Does His Clayton kershaw game FIVE in Dc And,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: national park and he walks out and He tells, Connor
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: mcguinnis i'm going to. The pen connor relays That To.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Mark pryor so, his own he did it on. His own.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: What would twenty? Two do, he, Said podcast but, that's
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: right that's sexy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Right there it is, it is but what would what
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: would twenty? Two do and that's Exactly what clayton would
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: have done. Has done And so walker puts it all,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: out there and he went, out there and, you know
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you're in the, ninth Inning and i'll tell you this,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: right now is if we don't take the lead in
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the top of, THE ninth i really don't KNOW what.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I Do because walker had, one inning and so if
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: we're looking at a tide game and we. Pitch him
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: we really don't have anyone for the, tenth BECAUSE as
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: i found, out later unbeknown, To Me daniel hudson essentially was. Blown,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: out YEAH so i had him getting LOOSE because i
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: thought he, was available but he couldn't, have PITCHED so i. Just,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: don't yeah and then You see walker getting the, lost
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: out and so those are things that just thank goodness
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that we executed a sackfly scored that go ahead run
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to then again do the little things, to help, you
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: know this, big juggernaut this great team Win A, world series.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: And a big thing to ME about I mean GAME
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: five i think just tells the full story of that postseason.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: In there people might not understand there's not necessarily. A
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: script there was not a script to Go Into, walker
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: bueller you going out there and feeling, the chest Looking
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: at blake trying in, the eyes getting that FEEL like
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: i got This.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Got yeah there's no script To have blake trying to
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: throw forty. Five pitches, you Know your game seven started
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to come out on two days rest or, you Know
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: taking gradule out against. The right that's THE things i
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: just think that, YOU know i have a lot of
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: great support with. Our club but at the end of,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: THE day i have to be accountable. For Decisions and,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: i've GOT like, i said i got a great, support
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Group and i've got great players that. Make plays and
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: last postseason it, was just, you know the players just
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: stepped up in a Way like i'd never.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Seen before what goes through, your mind skip when the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: last out Has Made alex verdugo at, the plate You
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Got walker bueller. In there somehow this is. LIKE serendipitous
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: i mean, it's, like, like.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah Hallelujah It's, verdugo bueller, Ex Teammates Alex x DODGER
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: couldn't i wouldn't want to beat do anything but Beat.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: The dodgers and there's a cutter, right there and you're
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: just trying to like still manage because the thing is
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: IS that i don't have anyone, behind them so there's.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: No Margin if alex ties this, GAME up i have
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: no other. Exit, STRATEGY.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, i mean well we know how that one.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Will turn and then so the breaking ball, Right there
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and this is something that's Telling is walker did not like,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: his curveball and it's taken years and years for him
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: for us to tell him to trust his, breaking ball
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and the irony is that that curveball allowed him to
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Strike Out alex Rodugo in game five of the twenty
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Twenty Four, world series and there's a breaker. Right there So.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: There's walker it's just a Lot of it's. Pure elation,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: that's right. Self proclaimed it's just. Pure elation IT is,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I Mean dodgers yankees to do It At? Yankee stadium
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: are you?
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Kidding me so we heard a lot about the party
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: going On In new york that Night Was Dave. Roberts
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: night looked like after.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, my, gosh okay so game five we. Win it
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going. On afterwards, there's pictures
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: there's obviously. The speeches there was a. Cigar involved there
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: was tequila As. Migi ro's obviously we're. Drinking tequila it
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: was an. EXHAUSTING situation i don't think we left that
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: ballpark maybe three hours after the, last pitch and so
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: AFTER that i just went back to the ROOM and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I think i just passed out because we had an
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: early flight the, next DAY so i kind of held
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it for.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: The parade not everybody, passed, Out though, Oh.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah i'm sure. Some, Guys, yeah hey you're in the
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: city that. Never Sleeps.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: That's vegas Oh.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: That's vegas, oh, Sorry Sorry new york. Either alone so
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Do you that's a, good, POINT actually i think it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Is here do? You think did you fall? Asleep quickly
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: do you toss? And turn what's going on in? YOUR
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: head i.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: FELL asleep i DID because i think ONE thing i
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: can DO is i sleep. Really well, so RIGHT so
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: i think that after all, THE festivities i just got
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: back to the hotel with my wife and my son.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Was there my daughter was there too because she flew
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: In from madrid For The. World series, SO uh i
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: think we just kind of all just gave each other
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a family HUG and i.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: JUST crashed i remember when we Won The world WE
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: like i played in twenty twenty when we Won The
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: world series and we were in the bubble And the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: christmas card From the robbers that year was you guys
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: hugging each other and then holding Up The. World series
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: now the asterisk, is, gone yeah, you know and that's that's.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: So important do you dream about? The game do you
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: dream about? The series like when? You're asleep do you dream? About?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: It not just?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Right now you KNOW what? I don't and. You know
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: what's funny is that this is the first today or
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a couple of, days AGO as i knew we were
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: going to, do this have. This conversation that was the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: FIRST time i went back and kind of ran through
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the postseason And The. World series you prepped. FOR us
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: i preped for. You guys. THAT'S right i prep Prep.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: FO yeah I prepped alana prep with.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Wine pretty good.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: At. That YEAH so i don't. DREAM exactly i don't dream,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: about IT but. I do it's interesting is that as
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a man or, For me i'll speak. For myself is,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: REGULAR season i can recall a lot of things over,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the years but, IN postseasons i just have a hard
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: time recounting certain MOMENTS and i don't go back and
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: dissect and it's just like whether they ended up well
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: or they didn't end. Up well, but yeah there was
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: an asterisk on, twenty TWENTY which i still to this
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: pay think it's bs because people just seem to forget
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: how hard life was then and they don't appreciate that
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: that translated to, our season which was just, as hard if,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: not harder where people aren't with their families and they're
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: doing spit tests and you're in. A, bubble guys it,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: was HARD but i love the one where people go, to,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: me hey now we. Won one it's good that we finally.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Won One and, I'm like i'm the biggest, dodd event
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: but we finally Won when, i'm, LIKE well i guess.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty but it's it's that's another that's. Another part that's,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a YEAH then i need the harder stuff for.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: That one do we spin forward and start talking about
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: this new? Look, team yeah let's.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Do it we've got, some time let's.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Do it, can listen you got to yourself a hell
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: of a. Starting rotation maybe too. MANY pitchers i don't
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: know if there's ever such. A thing after you come
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: off of we'll say it's not quite a debacle when
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: you go out and Win A. World series but what
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: do you think about this staff you got?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Lined up love? This staff. You know Obviously Getting blake
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: snell this, past winter that in itself would have been a.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Tremendous offseason it's just. The, beginning yeah and just even
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Talking to blake and getting To, know blake he's wanted
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to Be a dodger for quite. Some time and that's
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a credit to all of us in the sense that
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: we created an organization that is built to win for in,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: perpetuity essentially and players want to play for this organization's.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Ball club and So getting blake and then Obviously, after
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: blake a lot was Talked about rokie and this is a,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you know a generational type Pitcher, from japan and we
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: kind of put the full court press and the players,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: got involved obviously the ownership and, front OFFICE and i
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: thought everyone just nailed it as far, as presentation and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: he committed. To US and i Do, think clint you
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: just can never have, enough pitching and you Got show
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: hey coming back at some point. In Time tyler glass noow,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: is healthy which, Is Great dustin may, Is Back big red,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: is back which. Is Great tony gonson had a little
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: hiccup with his back, lifting weights but he'll. Be back
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and the thing is is that if, we've seen if
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: we learn anything from years past things happen, in baseball
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that you're always going to need healthy and. Viable Arms And,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: bobby miller, you know as a guy that started off
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: really well and he's going to start in, the minors but,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you know he's a real. Talented piece AND then i
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: expect him To help hiss at some point, as.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Well and twenty two somewhere down the road.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: As well and twenty TWO do i Forget T so
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: clayton as we sit, here today he'll go his first.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Bullpen tomorrow and, so yeah we're Gonna get clayton back
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: at some point and his, you know drive and quest
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: for three.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: THOUSAND strikeouts i have a two part question. For you
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: how important is it to You For roki sasaki's success
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: for him to implement a successful third pitch to use as?
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: An outpitch and if the season, started Today Barring tony
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: gonsolin with the, weight issue who's your?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Fifth? Starter yeah you KNOW what i think With the,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: ROKIE thing i think his split will always be. His
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: OUTPITCH but i do think that being a major, league
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: starter it's tough to have, two pitches and So for
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: roki to have something to go left against a right,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: HAND hitter i think is. Really important so it's just
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: kind of getting him the confidence in that knowing that
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: it might not be a wipeout base but it's just
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: to kind of keep guys office fastball off, his split keep.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Him HONEST so i do think it's, it's crucial but
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: he's had a. Great spring he's a very talented. Young pitcher.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Split's nasty it's like on the, scouting scale, you know
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: there's a twenty to eighty and it's an. Eighty pitch it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Really is as far as the, FIFTH starter i think
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: It's it's dustin because you know he's obviously. He's pitched
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: he's pitched well Getting back tony with the, little hiccup
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: just not being able to. BUILD up I think dustin
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: makes a lot. Of.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Sense thanks jojotani is a dude who's eventually going to
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: be in, the mix but kind of a little bit
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: of a. Slow down, Right now what what kind of
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: conversations are you guys having navigating building him up while
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: he's also your, leadoff GUY your dh the twenty TWENTY.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Four mvp what does that build up look like as.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: A pitcher so the main thing is we get his.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Rehab right it's The Second. Tommy john we have complete
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: trust With. Show hey the conversations are always evolving and.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: FREE flowing i just we just felt that he's the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: intensity of games coming off at left, shoulder surgery ramping
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: up the workload with, the bat is prep to kind
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of step off. The gas a little bit with the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: with the progression of the pitching was smart. And prudent
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and so we've always talked about certain players that the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: main thing for us is to be as well Prepared.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: For october not to, say that, you know it's a
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: right of pass that we're going to win the division
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: get to, the postseason but, you know with, our talent we.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Should expect i'll, say it you're going to win.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: The, division okay those are, your WORDS but i still.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Expect that BUT so i think that the thing is that,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: with that just making Sure, show hey whatever we, can
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: do so airing on the side, of Contume show hey
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and pushing him back a, couple weeks, three weeks whatever,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: it is it really, doesn't matter and, show heyes all.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: On board you KNOW how i know when things are
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: going really right when you have a man that is
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the international face. Of baseball when you guys Land, in
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Tokyo which i'm still trying to get on the, damn
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: plane even if it's. A cargo when you guys Land,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: in tokyo they're literally expecting a million people to meet
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: you guys at. The airport but yet you Have this
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: he's sweet and he's a funny guy and you guys
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: have little pranks in the. PARKING lot, i mean that's
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: pretty special when you have a guy that is the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: face of the game AND an mvp perennially and you
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: have so many superstars on your team and you can
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: still kind of have that fun time or something special.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: With that there IS and i just think that we
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: are saying the best version Of show hey in a
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: sense as. A person obviously he was fifty, to fifty
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: he had a. Huge year he's the best player on.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: The planet what we are, going to what we are
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: going into and Get, TO tokyo I can't i don't
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: think anyone can. Really appreciate but after last spring and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: we Got to seoul and, you know we moved on from,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: The interpreter shohey has become his. Own MAN and i
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: think that's been great for, the coaches it's been great
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: for his teammate most teammates, most IMPORTANTLY and i think
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the fans are starting to in the media are really
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: starting to see a normal PERSON where i think that
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you know him Not speak english as a, second language
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: and being separated from the media and teammates and all
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: this stuff that you really didn't get a grasp of
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: who this. Guy WAS but i really do believe that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: when his real personality, shows out then his. True, talent yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Well shot AND so i just it's fun for me
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: to hear that funny laugh of his and pull pranks,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: on me and me do it, to him and he
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: just takes it like. A champion it's so.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Much fun how do you how do you Avoid The
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: world series? Hanging on how do you get these guys
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: all bought in when the real?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Game, START oh i mean we're we're already. Bought in
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: everyone understands what we're expecting, to do what we're we're
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: trying to be great for a long period. Of time and,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you know twenty four. Is done so this is a
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: new it's a, different year different, ball club some of the.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Same faces but, YOU know, i Think and i've talked
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: about this, for us you bring in new guys that
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: haven't won, a championship, You Know kirby, yate SNeW you
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Know obviously ROKIE. And confordo and then you have other
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: guys that are chasing greatness. And legacy and, you know
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: how do you become the greatest of? All time you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: win a bunch. Of championships, that's right, that's Right And
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: magic johnson says that you know this is a, championship
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: town and so you Know From mark walter are our owner,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: on down you know the goal is not to run
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: from having the bulls eye on. Your back embrace it
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and people can say whatever they want, about US and
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: i don't think. Anyone cares AND so i think, For,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: me clint there's, not letdown is not even in our.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Vocabular area there's just a certain STANDARD and i think
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: that our fans have seen it every. Single year how
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: we play.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Based that's a difference between the buffalo and. A cow
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: a buffalo runs into, the storm a cow runs out of.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: The storm last question, For, you dave before we let.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: You go i've known you a. Long time it's been
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a privilege to know you as LONG as i have
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: IN The nl west and As the, dodgers MANAGER and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: i feel like you're finally being rewarded not only for
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the manager that, you are but for the human being that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: You ARE and i know you always say that every
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: day you talk to your every single player on, that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: roster you find a way to communicate in some form.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Or fashion you have to be. A psychiatrist you have
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: to be, a nurse you have to be all kinds.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Of things what are you most? Proud of as you
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: sit here in this game now thirty years in your
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: birthday's coming Up, In, may like what are you most? Proud?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: OF wow i never could have imagined myself being here
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: talking As the. Dodgers manager been in, this, game big
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: big in, the professional you know side of things since nineteen.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: NINETY four I think i'm most proud of. The longevity,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: you know people in any moment in time can be
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: great lightning in. A bottle you. Hear That but i've
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: just as, You know i'm fifty two years old, Right
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: now i've managed for, Ten years i've PLAYED for x amount,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: of YEARS and i THINK that i just really appreciate consistency.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And longevity AND so i Think that i've. Done that
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: i'm doing that and so when you because when you
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: can do something, like that you can understand how to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: handle the highs and manage. The LOWS and i think
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: that's something that when, you managers can, you know pass
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: the test. Of time that's doing something and that's something.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: For me, you know players that played a, long time,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you know coaches or managers that have been around for a,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: long time media have been around for a. Long time people.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Like that those are the people that really that Draw
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: my i'm. Drawn too and.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: When you talk about longevity In The Los angeles Dodgers Is,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: walter Alston It's, Tommy Lesorda it's Dave. FUCKING roberts i.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: LOVE it i.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: LOVE it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I can't, I mean i know it, sounds Ridiculous but
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: i'm beyond proud. Of you congratulations on an, amazing season
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: the best managerial tenure of. Your career let's run. It
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: back let's run, it back, All Right, dave roberts manager
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Of The Los. Angeles daughters we appreciate, the, Time Obviously uh.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Dodgers territory, that's it lusif sits down with the, Man,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: himself doc remember, This date. March tenth there's a reason
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: why we'll see. You Later.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Go, dodgers bye