Latest / The Higherside Chats / Laura Knight-Jadczyk | Organic Portals, Harvesting Humanity, & The Hyperdimensional Control Matrix
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- 6:27that it is exchanging our precious time and
- 6:29effort for sigil filled green paper printed from
- 6:32behind the curtain?
- 6:33Running only on perception and previous momentum.
- 6:36You look at addictive processed foods covered in
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- 6:42dirty health eroding trick it was designed to
- 6:44be. And you realize how little it takes
- 6:46for a handful of so called leaders to
- 6:48send huge numbers of men to die on
- 6:50the battlefield in vain that On top of
- 6:52many strange and mysterious experiences happening in people's
- 6:56lives, remnants of a lost civilizations scattered across
- 6:59the landscape that... Suppose our history is very
- 7:01flawed at least, and several other things. The
- 7:03big machine would rather just not talk about
- 7:06while it makes a summer, sicker and more
- 7:08dependent on its sub par offerings and energy
- 7:10sucking systems.
- 7:12But before you choke down the black pill,
- 7:14it's worth noticing what life is at a
- 7:16deeper level.
- 7:17Are we all fractal of a greater hole
- 7:19living out a cosmic drama in a convincing
- 7:22dream? Is the pressure of the system designed
- 7:24to see us rise to the occasion?
- 7:27It's hard to say for sure, but this
- 7:28is the thought evolution process of many in
- 7:31the conspiracy sphere, and it's all contained in
- 7:33the massive amount of work, put out there
- 7:35by today's guest Lara Knight Ja.
- 7:38Lara has been researching consciousness in the paranormal
- 7:41since she was just 13,
- 7:43She learned Hit therapy and college resulting in
- 7:45many strange and troubling things in her sessions
- 7:47for others.
- 7:49She had some odd Ufo.
- 7:50Experiences and on top of nose to the
- 7:52Grinds stone historical and
- 7:55research.
- 7:56She also started something called the Ethiopia channel
- 7:59experiments in the mid nineties where she made
- 8:01contact with something else and their many Q
- 8:04and A sessions have been turned into 8
- 8:06books in the Wave series as On top
- 8:08of several others she's written including a 3
- 8:11part secret history of the world series,
- 8:13the apocalypse, comet, asteroids and cyclical catastrophes, and
- 8:17a personal favorite. High strange, hyper dimensions in
- 8:20the process of alien abduction. Her writing continues
- 8:24on our website, cas dot org and now
- 8:26the cas
- 8:27if experiment subs.
- 8:29She takes no truth for granted leaves no
- 8:31stone un unearned, and I am so psyche
- 8:33to have her here. The hidden truth reveal,
- 8:35Cass
- 8:36chandler and high
- 8:38dimensional control matrix highlighter, Lara, welcome to Thc.
- 8:42Wow.
- 8:43That was amazing.
- 8:45Bert It's all just part of the 9
- 8:47to 5 around here, but this is a
- 8:48real pleasure.
- 8:49You've clearly been doing this work for a
- 8:51long time, and it's rare to find someone
- 8:54who I feel was getting so many things
- 8:56right and usually before they were trendy. You've
- 8:59been saying Ufo
- 9:01are not aliens from a distant planet,
- 9:03but hyper dimensional beans, and you've been saying
- 9:06that since the mid nineties,
- 9:08you've said the ecology community is full of
- 9:10Coin intel pro shells,
- 9:12religions are largely a control system for people.
- 9:15A is real, and we are property and
- 9:18food for predatory beans, you even called Covid,
- 9:21the masks and the shots out really early.
- 9:24And it is kinda hard to find people
- 9:26who have been so diverse in their research,
- 9:29but also seem to have nailed it in
- 9:31so many different subject areas that you cover,
- 9:33so kudos host to you. Thank you. I'd
- 9:36like meet that person.
- 9:40Well, what would you say might be some
- 9:43other important areas where you feel that your
- 9:46own research has broken from even the
- 9:49territorial heard because I think this audience is
- 9:52past the 01:01
- 9:53stuff and has really heard from so many
- 9:56of the figures in the space, but Where
- 9:58would you say your research has broken from
- 10:01that or even fills in some unique holes
- 10:03that are there?
- 10:04Well,
- 10:061 thing there is the experiment, which is
- 10:09kinda like
- 10:10inspirational.
- 10:11In a way it's research itself. Because, you
- 10:13know, you research into whether or not
- 10:16it is possible to communicate with
- 10:19higher for lack of better term
- 10:22beings or entities,
- 10:24and whether it's a useful activity, whether it
- 10:27brings you any concrete results, that in itself
- 10:30is research.
- 10:31But then there is research that involves
- 10:34digging into records
- 10:36and, you know, pulling together as many threads
- 10:39as she possibly can.
- 10:41So it's really hard to say because we've
- 10:43gotten some interesting things from the cass
- 10:47experiment that
- 10:48we're
- 10:49pretty shocking at the time they came. I
- 10:51I think probably 1 of the most shocking
- 10:531 was
- 10:54the information they presented about what they called
- 10:58organic portals, which is that, you know, 50
- 11:00percent of
- 11:01humanity approximately
- 11:03do not have
- 11:05souls.
- 11:07And then, of course, that
- 11:10kinda of dovetail with
- 11:12other research we did into psycho
- 11:15because at 1 point, the Cass
- 11:18remarked that
- 11:19psycho pass were just defective
- 11:22organic portals. Organic portals can be salt to
- 11:24the earth type people,
- 11:26you know, just people who are easily led,
- 11:29Bob Alt,
- 11:31psychologist from Canada
- 11:33would call them authoritarian followers.
- 11:36And then there was another another guy who
- 11:39wrote an article call endo exoskeleton and exoskeleton.
- 11:42So the organic portal type would be
- 11:45an individual who needs an exoskeleton because they
- 11:48don't have anything
- 11:49inside them that helps them stand up, so
- 11:52they need something from the outside. They need
- 11:54rules and regulations and laws and
- 11:57somebody to guide and direct them and
- 11:59not to cut you off, but today with
- 12:02this digital context we all have. These are
- 12:05the people that are commonly known as Npc,
- 12:08with gaming terminology,
- 12:09people who are just kind of empty vessels.
- 12:12And that's what the seas we're talking about.
- 12:14That was back in the late nineties.
- 12:17So now they're calling them Mpc, but we
- 12:19were calling them Op or organic portal be
- 12:22happy. Be careful because when you're riding on
- 12:24internet for op peak can also be an
- 12:25opening post. And so people, you have to
- 12:28be careful.
- 12:29So that was probably 1 of the war
- 12:31shock. Yeah. I've been a little time. I
- 12:33had a hard time dealing with it because,
- 12:36I mean, so much of what I have
- 12:38learned through the experiment and through my end
- 12:40research I have had
- 12:42a hard time dealing with it because it's
- 12:44so contrary or counter to what we're taught
- 12:47or brought up to believe.
- 12:49In a in a christian background you you
- 12:51hear the expression know all his send and
- 12:54fall short glory of God.
- 12:57So that's, you know, everybody
- 12:59basically
- 13:00has a chance.
- 13:02But apparently, that's not necessarily the case.
- 13:05Anything about, you know, all these bad people,
- 13:07will they're gonna go to hell. Well, if
- 13:09you don't really have an ind
- 13:11soul,
- 13:12that, you know, survives your passing,
- 13:16you're not gonna go to hell, so people
- 13:17can be really evil and wicked, and they're
- 13:19not gonna get their punishment on the other
- 13:21side. So you, people are sitting around here.
- 13:24Saying, well, you know,
- 13:26Vengeance as mine say Lord. I won't do
- 13:27anything. God's gonna take care of it. Well
- 13:29Guess what. You know, that's probably not gonna
- 13:31happen.
- 13:34Right. And so you
- 13:36go on from the organic portals
- 13:38thing to
- 13:40say that
- 13:42these organic portals are being used now by
- 13:454DST
- 13:47to control 3DSTS
- 13:49slash 40 S t candidates through clap and
- 13:53vampire functions, keeping us locked into a behavioral
- 13:56pattern matching the orchestrated norm and being physically
- 13:59close to us to sap our energies and
- 14:01keep us from having enough escape velocity to
- 14:05remove ourselves from the matrix control systems tug
- 14:08via development of our magnetic centers, and this
- 14:12might need some el collaboration, But it really
- 14:14is a summary of the big picture in
- 14:17your work, I would say, but for people
- 14:18who don't know what these terms mean, explain
- 14:21the term S t and S t for
- 14:23them.
- 14:24Plus, yes, and S t actually originated with
- 14:27the raw material, which was out in record
- 14:29and Mccarthy, you know, Carla,
- 14:32Colonel Re and Don Elk.
- 14:34They did some really, really amazing. Amazing work
- 14:38because they went at it as
- 14:40a controlled experiment also.
- 14:42And they got back some really remarkable results.
- 14:45Now I had a a lot of correspondence
- 14:47with Carla,
- 14:48before she passed away, and,
- 14:50you know, we had
- 14:52it was kinda like a little mini sister
- 14:54who'd kind of thing because we were both
- 14:55joining sort of the same thing.
- 14:58I felt that she was
- 15:00blocking a certain
- 15:02and it came through in the raw material
- 15:04because she was a very tender
- 15:06person, you know, very very soft
- 15:09inside.
- 15:10And it was very difficult for her to
- 15:12deal with and talk about anything that was
- 15:15negative. Because it it affected her
- 15:17physically.
- 15:19So dealing with the negative aspects of what
- 15:21was going on, you know, Ra would have
- 15:23to
- 15:24go through all kinds of convoluted
- 15:28explanations and really bizarre sentence structures to say
- 15:31things
- 15:32because, you know, that was the only way
- 15:34I think that they could get it past
- 15:36per guard system, you know, our internal guardian
- 15:39system.
- 15:41But still, it was some of the most
- 15:43remarkable material it was ever produced.
- 15:46If you can manage to read
- 15:48this convoluted
- 15:51way of speaking.
- 15:52So Sc ses and S t
- 15:55service to self and service to others. And
- 15:58we just kinda of
- 16:00shortened into S t and S. So S
- 16:02sds so the bad guys,
- 16:05from our point of view, and S str
- 16:07are the good guys. From our point of
- 16:09view, but as the seas have pointed out,
- 16:11it just depends on your point of view
- 16:13because to
- 16:15somebody on the S pathway and believe me,
- 16:18it's is probably about half of all reality
- 16:21and maybe even half humanity or whatever.
- 16:24We are the bad guys.
- 16:26And seas pointed out that roaches.
- 16:30We are the bad guys. I mean, definitely.
- 16:32And I mean, you're there in Tampa, and
- 16:33they have some bo
- 16:35in that I can tell you lot. That
- 16:37was true.
- 16:38Fortunately, we don't have him here.
- 16:41I was so glad to get a away
- 16:42from wreck just but anyway, Yeah. It depends
- 16:45on your point of view. And Ross said
- 16:46the all blanks neither at the darkness nor
- 16:50at the light.
- 16:51And this kind of flies in the face
- 16:54of nearly
- 16:55all the philosophical endeavors, human beings have been
- 16:59making for a very long time. I mean,
- 17:00even nowadays, there are
- 17:02trained philosophers who
- 17:04you know, argue these issues about, you know,
- 17:06if there is a God, you know, this
- 17:08god is all living all good. I'm omniscient,
- 17:10you know,
- 17:12Omni nip to son on so forth. The
- 17:14amount, of course, according to the formulation.
- 17:17And if he is omni initiating, and I'm
- 17:19nip tenth, then he can't be all loving
- 17:21because he less bad things happen to be
- 17:22good People. So they get into these theo
- 17:24odyssey
- 17:25arguments. And, you know, because they're all
- 17:28fundamentally based on the idea that it's is
- 17:30a God,
- 17:32It's got to be good and good is,
- 17:34of course, according to their definition.
- 17:37And,
- 17:38you know, the thing is is that it
- 17:40just doesn't seem to be necessarily so. It
- 17:43seems that Cosmos is something that is far
- 17:46more
- 17:47Oh, shall we say,
- 17:49I don't wanna call it ambiguous or arbitrary.
- 17:53But in a sense, it's really grand.
- 17:57That the all does blink neither at the
- 18:00darkness, nor the light.
- 18:02You know, it is what is.
- 18:04You know, and we are here, you know,
- 18:06earth of the school? And it's in us
- 18:09to make our choice. You know, are we
- 18:10going to follow an Sds pathway? Or are
- 18:12we going to call an Seo pas? You
- 18:14have to understand
- 18:17what it means
- 18:18to follow those pathways
- 18:20because when you follow on S pathway.
- 18:23And you want to go to the ultimate,
- 18:24that means, you know, ultimate,
- 18:27constriction, contraction,
- 18:29gravitational, diminish,
- 18:31you know, no love in your life, no
- 18:33ability to love or be loved, whatever. Those
- 18:35are the things you're giving up.
- 18:37You holiday S pto pathway.
- 18:40You know, you have an expansive creative
- 18:43future or
- 18:45orientation, but of course, it comes with a
- 18:47lot of pain.
- 18:49I mean, you don't love without pain.
- 18:51And that's,
- 18:52you know, he loves somebody and you lose
- 18:54them.
- 18:56You hurt,
- 18:58and there's misunderstanding. You know, love comes with
- 19:00pain.
- 19:01So those are the 2 pathways and you
- 19:04have to think about it.
- 19:06When we ask to seize 1. What are
- 19:08Sds or And say we serve others
- 19:11by us serving others we serve ourselves.
- 19:14Which is what it ends up being because
- 19:16if you're in a group of people who
- 19:18are all S seo, everybody is helping everybody
- 19:21else, and nobody is lacking or doing without.
- 19:25I mean, like a perfect relationship, you know,
- 19:27whatever
- 19:28I want to give to my husband is
- 19:30exactly what he wants to receive and vice
- 19:32versa.
- 19:34Mh.
- 19:35So
- 19:36let's add this because I am a fan
- 19:37of the
- 19:38soul school philosophy. That's kind of what I've
- 19:41arrived at after trying on many different hats.
- 19:44And
- 19:45be that as in May, even within that
- 19:48una
- 19:50system. We she have other layers that make
- 19:52it more complex. I know we've both been
- 19:55intrigued by Charles Sports quote that ultimately we
- 19:57are property.
- 19:59And we might amend that to say food
- 20:01as well as property, but to quote your
- 20:03secret history work, you've said,
- 20:05in the case of the idea of man
- 20:07being food for hyper dimensional beans. There is
- 20:10an enormous amount of both
- 20:12vertical and lateral
- 20:14of all kinds, so much so that, in
- 20:16fact, it's almost impossible to understand why it's
- 20:19not generally known.
- 20:21And I think that's really intriguing. Let's dig
- 20:23into that a bit. What would you say
- 20:25to people who don't see that who do
- 20:27feel generally
- 20:29free enough and aren't even sure there are
- 20:33other entities that exist, let alone own us
- 20:35or feed on us. Well, we come back
- 20:37once again and that's... In a kind of
- 20:40funny way it goes back to the Op
- 20:42issue.
- 20:43And I had a discussion with some member
- 20:46of the skeptics society here or something.
- 20:49Quite a few years ago and
- 20:51he was arguing about,
- 20:54you know, whether or not
- 20:56anybody could trust
- 20:58the testimony on if somebody you had had
- 21:00an unusual experience that couldn't
- 21:03be
- 21:04seen or observed by somebody else.
- 21:06And
- 21:07the Finally, I said, well, if you have
- 21:09never ever ever,
- 21:11Even sincere
- 21:12at any kind of unusual intonation or experience
- 21:15or sync ethnicity or anything whatsoever,
- 21:19then maybe you just don't have a soul.
- 21:22And
- 21:23he went,
- 21:26what do you mean? I don't have a
- 21:27soul? And this is a guy who's just
- 21:29arguing it with me that nobody has souls
- 21:31that souls don't exist.
- 21:32That when you die, that shit. And now
- 21:34when I tell him he found doesn't have
- 21:36was stolen. That's the thing 81 more than
- 21:37anything in the world.
- 21:39So, you know, I think there are probably
- 21:4250 percent of humanity who do not have
- 21:45these experiences.
- 21:47They do not have the antenna, the perceptions,
- 21:50the...
- 21:51Whatever it takes to see them perceive them
- 21:53whatever I mean, you've heard stories. I'm sure.
- 21:56Of, groups of people who had Ufo,
- 21:59sighting or, you know, witness events where there
- 22:01was a large group of people and say,
- 22:03a percentage of the people actually saw what
- 22:05was happening and then their stories, you know,
- 22:07pretty much mesh. And there there were people
- 22:09who saw nothing.
- 22:11Experience to that's.
- 22:13So I think that is part of it,
- 22:16and I think that maybe there is a
- 22:19good portion of people who go into
- 22:23the hard sciences
- 22:24as a career pass,
- 22:26who,
- 22:27you know, have very good, very good brains,
- 22:31but they don't have much in the way
- 22:32of spiritual or so capacities,
- 22:36and they become very va in their assertion
- 22:40that
- 22:41Nothing like I had as possible. It can't
- 22:42happen.
- 22:43And my husband wrote a little book, it
- 22:46hasn't been published yet, and he examined some
- 22:49of the early experiments done by William Crooks
- 22:53with Daniel Dung glass home.
- 22:55And
- 22:57did some
- 22:58calculations and did some, you know, rebuttal and
- 23:00so forth, You know, basically showing that it
- 23:03was a guy who was doing real science.
- 23:05And he was just
- 23:07vicious flame by the scientific community of his
- 23:09time.
- 23:11People like Darwin who would not even attend
- 23:14a spiritual sitting.
- 23:16His wife was interested, but he wouldn't even
- 23:19attend.
- 23:21So those
- 23:23experiments you just mentioned, elaborate on what those
- 23:26experiments were that your husband analyzed for people
- 23:28who haven't heard about them before. Well, there
- 23:31were like planks of wood, and Daniel dun
- 23:33home was moving these pike woods surrounded with
- 23:36springs and weights and measures and
- 23:39measured the amount of
- 23:41pressure and
- 23:42movement that was
- 23:44being affected on the piece of wood
- 23:47just simply by the power of his mind.
- 23:49Levi limitation.
- 23:50Yeah. Well, we're talking about some really simple
- 23:53basic
- 23:54scientific experiments that
- 23:57cook setup up,
- 23:58and
- 24:001 of the main arguments against it was
- 24:02well, the wood absorbed moisture.
- 24:05From the atlas atmosphere and it omega heavier,
- 24:07and that's why it had more weight.
- 24:09I mean, silly things like that.
- 24:12And he broke
- 24:13a paper about this and was gun on
- 24:15know, publishing shit and 1, like proceedings 1
- 24:17of the scientific journals of the time.
- 24:20And
- 24:21the reaction was just astonishing.
- 24:25And then, of course, there were the scientists
- 24:26who are fundamentalist christians.
- 24:29Yeah. We won't get into that too much,
- 24:31but organic portals. So
- 24:33when I read your ride and you often
- 24:36as I kinda said in that quote,
- 24:39talk about how they are used by these
- 24:42hyper dimensional beans as, I mean, the term
- 24:44portal, it's right there. You know, they're basically
- 24:48possessed
- 24:49by these beans.
- 24:50I don't know if this is a constant
- 24:52possession or just an occasional walk in situation.
- 24:55But how did organic portals come to be
- 24:58on this planet? These people that are essentially
- 25:01what you say the sheep
- 25:03and are also sometimes used as, like, puppets
- 25:08by multi dimensional beans. How do they come
- 25:09to be
- 25:11And how can we tell if one's currently
- 25:13being used as a hu for something else?
- 25:16Well surprise surprise we're probably and until we
- 25:20develop Something,
- 25:21and, you know, more or better, all organic
- 25:23portals and probably all early humanoid type prominence
- 25:27and so forth were organic portal type beings
- 25:30until there was an event wherein in, you
- 25:33know,
- 25:34souls,
- 25:35came into bodies on Earth and made some
- 25:39differences on the Seas talked about this too,
- 25:41you know, the so called fallen and eden.
- 25:43And, you know, the fall of Luc firm
- 25:45I mean, we've asked him about this. And
- 25:47they said, you know, you were Luc,
- 25:49the human race. You know, we are all
- 25:51parts of a great
- 25:53being that fragmented and fell,
- 25:56and
- 25:58these are located in all kinds of ancient
- 26:00myths.
- 26:01You know, the fragmentation of the great being
- 26:03that then
- 26:05becomes the souls of humanity.
- 26:07The so in a sense
- 26:10we can all be or choose to be
- 26:12just our organic portal self.
- 26:15And, you know, that's kind of a shocking
- 26:17thing. You know, and people ask you know,
- 26:19what if I'm an organic portal and I
- 26:21say, well, you know, and you can just...
- 26:23It doesn't matter. You still work on yourself
- 26:26and you do the best you can because
- 26:28according to some, a esoteric literature, organic portals
- 26:31have the possibility
- 26:33of
- 26:34crystal criticizing
- 26:35a sole essence. If
- 26:37They are under the influence of other Seo
- 26:40beings who are beneficial so them.
- 26:42Yeah. It gets really weird
- 26:44because you start to think about
- 26:46Well, I am a vessel for a spirit,
- 26:49but it's my spirit. You know, we all
- 26:52know we're not our bodies inherently. So
- 26:55You start to think, well, this one's my
- 26:57spirit. But what if there's other people out
- 26:58there where it's not their spirit in their
- 27:00body
- 27:01and
- 27:02It really is just a matter of perspective
- 27:04I suppose at a certain point. It gets
- 27:06a little hairy with that stuff. But... Hey
- 27:08there are people who are bus loads with
- 27:09nobody driving.
- 27:12Yeah. I know a few of them. I
- 27:13know a few of them. And I like
- 27:16that you've used this term hyper dimensional. For
- 27:19so long because it's becoming trendy again as
- 27:22people try to find the nuance in
- 27:26and
- 27:27terms like multi dimensional or popular or maybe
- 27:30demons and angels are actually the aliens. So
- 27:32you've been using this hyper dimensional term for
- 27:35so long,
- 27:37I am curious because you do talk about
- 27:39how the elites, the ruling class tends to
- 27:42be in service to these
- 27:44entities,
- 27:45Do you think secret societies or cult
- 27:48in the past or present have found ways
- 27:50to break into these hyper dimensional realms that
- 27:53are typically not
- 27:55accessible to us. It's usually these beans acting
- 27:58on our
- 28:00dimension from this place.
- 28:02Can we go there? Have the elite out
- 28:03a way to crack into their world.
- 28:06I think they found a way
- 28:09to
- 28:12call on them and
- 28:14bring them
- 28:16into their
- 28:18reality
- 28:19and become their servants,
- 28:22but
- 28:23I
- 28:25very seriously
- 28:26doubt
- 28:27that any
- 28:29a human being has
- 28:31no matter how great in the cult they
- 28:33are that has been able to crack into
- 28:36the hyper dimensional realities and, you know, kick
- 28:39button take names in any significant way.
- 28:42So
- 28:43I mean, I've seen so many stories of
- 28:45these cult and they go Gun H gun
- 28:47h,
- 28:48and
- 28:49they're like,
- 28:51cheating stars.
- 28:53You know, they're flashy. They're bright and then
- 28:55boom.
- 28:56They're out.
- 28:58Yeah. It makes me curious because I think
- 29:01about how so much of free Masonry is
- 29:03about
- 29:04numbers and angles, and then you go into
- 29:07the occult stuff, and it's like, hey, you
- 29:09draw this
- 29:10A certain way and a being will come
- 29:12through, like you can make portals using certain
- 29:15geo,
- 29:17and
- 29:18it's only a couple degrees away from saying,
- 29:20well, maybe
- 29:22we can use that doorway the other direction
- 29:25and we can access hidden places if you
- 29:27look at some of the free masonic symbolism,
- 29:30there's a lot of these 2 pillars with
- 29:32the sun in the moon and then a
- 29:33ladder,
- 29:34to a window in the sky, which has
- 29:37always been suggested to me of a hidden
- 29:39realm, a hidden place that maybe they can
- 29:42access either of just a conscious
- 29:44projection
- 29:45without taking the physical body or maybe there's
- 29:47a technological way to do it, but it
- 29:50gets curious in those kind of areas.
- 29:52I've known a few of these, the cult
- 29:55personally.
- 29:57And
- 29:58most of what I've been able to observe
- 30:01is
- 30:03there's like a lack of real maturity
- 30:07in them. They're like children and they want
- 30:09to play and
- 30:11they approach this whole thing is so it's
- 30:12a game.
- 30:14Although he can get very serious. I mean,
- 30:161 of them was talking about, you know,
- 30:17using his
- 30:19ceremonial knife and it, either, a circle in
- 30:22this pent and
- 30:23being naked and all this kind of stuff
- 30:25and and the way you're just talking to
- 30:27me seriously, and I was spending a a
- 30:29hard time not to laugh at the whole
- 30:31image of what was presenting. I think an
- 30:33adult person in this day in age, it's
- 30:35gonna draw a circle on the ground and
- 30:37waving life around and dance and chant words.
- 30:40And and, yes, it may work.
- 30:43That's the awful thing. It may work, but
- 30:46the thing is is everyone I've ever read
- 30:49about when it works,
- 30:50they become the slave.
- 30:53Of that which they invite into their reality.
- 30:58I've never seen it otherwise.
- 31:01Yeah. Not so good. Be careful what you
- 31:03wish for.
- 31:04And another subject that you write about differently
- 31:08than a lot of others is mega sites
- 31:11and stones on the earth grid. So many
- 31:14people
- 31:15romanticized these as
- 31:17Parts of leftover
- 31:19technology from some great age, but you talk
- 31:22about them as technology,
- 31:24that might be part of a control system
- 31:27designed to strengthen
- 31:29the prison.
- 31:30And these days when people talk about meditating
- 31:33or
- 31:35visualization on these grids.
- 31:37They're usually trying to elevate
- 31:40the
- 31:41positive vibes of the planet. This new Kind
- 31:45stuff that you've been so critical up. But
- 31:46you say, what if maybe
- 31:48this practice in this
- 31:50they were encouraged to do
- 31:53actually
- 31:54uses us as batteries to strengthen
- 31:56this network or keep it in place.
- 32:00That's an interesting perspective, very unique. Well well,
- 32:03also keep in mind to try to separate
- 32:06mega
- 32:08from this, the so called sacred geometry.
- 32:11Now the sacred geometry folks have,
- 32:14you know, kind of tried to incorporate mega
- 32:17into their system,
- 32:19but I'm not sure that they should necessarily
- 32:23be the same because I have some ideas
- 32:25about mega societies that are
- 32:29a little different
- 32:30than that, and
- 32:32At the same time, there are uses
- 32:35of mega structures
- 32:38placed around the globe
- 32:40that can definitely very definitely be used in
- 32:43a negative way.
- 32:45Talking to the seeds about it, we ask
- 32:47about it. And they said,
- 32:49Well, you know, if somebody builds something and
- 32:52then moves out,
- 32:54and somebody moves in and uses it for
- 32:56a different purpose,
- 32:58which means that the original mega structures could
- 33:02have been very beneficial.
- 33:04And then
- 33:05something else, somebody else or some other system,
- 33:09moved in and took them over and use
- 33:10them in a negative way.
- 33:13And that kinda of think you'd almost have
- 33:15to sit down and evaluate every single situation
- 33:18whatsoever
- 33:19in order to try to come to some
- 33:21kind inclusion about what you think of any
- 33:23given place and given whatever,
- 33:25but it needs to be kept in mind
- 33:28before people start mindless going around doing stuff.
- 33:32You know, because most of the time,
- 33:35if it's really popular. If it's allowed
- 33:38to become popular.
- 33:41Then it's probably not good for you.
- 33:45Yeah. You know, you're saying that reminds me
- 33:48of a quote that I had copied So
- 33:50I've read your books in the past and
- 33:53heard interviews, and I digested probably
- 33:5610 hours of audio material from you and
- 33:58read several books getting ready for this. So
- 34:00it's almost like my notes are so
- 34:03full of stuff that they're kind of useless
- 34:05because I can't go through them quickly, but
- 34:07As I stalled, here's what I was looking
- 34:10for that relates to what you just said,
- 34:12but you were talking about
- 34:14abduction, and you said
- 34:17Let me make it clear that I'm in
- 34:18no way suggesting that
- 34:20abduction or some whacked out satanic rituals do
- 34:23not ever take place. Somewhere under some circumstances,
- 34:26but I am suggesting
- 34:29that the gray alien and satanic ritual abuse
- 34:33phenomenon
- 34:34Most certainly have not been
- 34:36restricted in any way by C intel pro,
- 34:39and that's a clue that they may indeed
- 34:41be the smoke and mirrors that hides
- 34:44a far more insidious state of affairs, just
- 34:46like what you're saying. If it's allowed to
- 34:48be talked about and gain traction
- 34:51then we might wanna think about how true
- 34:54it is because the real truth, the real
- 34:56secrets, they can keep those.
- 34:58But what are you getting at there that
- 35:01abduction and satanic ritual abuse
- 35:04might be smoke mirrors that hide something even
- 35:07more insidious. I mean, because that stuff's pretty
- 35:09insidious on its own. Well,
- 35:12you know, if you're a food source,
- 35:15that's
- 35:16pretty much worse than just being abducted are
- 35:19just being ritual abused.
- 35:22In the more
- 35:23mild sense. Now they're satanic ritual abuse that
- 35:27goes to a level
- 35:29that is about as bad as it can
- 35:31possibly get and probably represents almost exactly in
- 35:34an a am type image
- 35:36what goes on in an alien reality, you
- 35:39know, consumption of body parts even I mean,
- 35:42think about
- 35:43human mutilation. I mean,
- 35:46The thing is it's this control system
- 35:48that appears to be
- 35:50in charge of our planet, and we can
- 35:52pretty much tell that it's not a very
- 35:55nice 1 because look at the state of
- 35:56the planet. Look at the freaking state of
- 35:58the planet right now.
- 36:00And it's so insidious and is so evil
- 36:03and so vile. And yet we,
- 36:06like good cattle in the pasture year, munch
- 36:08grass
- 36:09and sniffing butter cups and having our little
- 36:12baby calves and n them and enjoying the
- 36:16sunshine and everything, you know, we're living our
- 36:17lives.
- 36:19Thinking that everything is always gonna be that
- 36:22way and until the time comes if they
- 36:24send you a ramp onto the back of
- 36:26the chuck.
- 36:27And, but
- 36:29it only happens to certain ones.
- 36:32But in another sense, for emotional food, and
- 36:36emotional energy
- 36:38and sucking the energy of people suffering,
- 36:42that is on an ongoing basis.
- 36:44Yeah. That's true.
- 36:46And
- 36:47when it comes to consumption, obviously, drain chrome
- 36:50has gained popularity
- 36:52and the alternative world, people
- 36:55looking at the prospect of really dark stuff,
- 36:58human trafficking
- 36:59and
- 37:00even breeding children for the purpose of draining
- 37:04them of this ad,
- 37:06this chemical that our bodies make in heightened
- 37:09states of emotion and trauma that is then
- 37:11extracted at those moments.
- 37:14Obviously, this is some of the darkest stuff.
- 37:16You're talking about the most vulnerable people
- 37:19being used
- 37:20as a product for the elite and traumatized
- 37:23in terrible ways.
- 37:25What do you know about that that other
- 37:27people like me can't get from just reading
- 37:30books. I mean, because you have sources and
- 37:33insider information to a degree that a lot
- 37:35of us don't have access to,
- 37:37can you tell about that reality?
- 37:39Well,
- 37:41it was so horrific when I was looking
- 37:44into it Oh, 20 years ago. I was
- 37:46looking getting into this stuff over 20 years
- 37:48ago.
- 37:50You on, I would talk about it a
- 37:51little bit. Once in a while here and
- 37:53there, but people didn't wanna hear that.
- 37:57Nowadays,
- 37:58it's actually
- 38:00gotten to the point where
- 38:02the world's elite are
- 38:05allowing
- 38:06people to see
- 38:09because
- 38:10I don't think that...
- 38:12Well, it is possible that there are leaks
- 38:14in their accidents and so forth. I mean,
- 38:15look at the Pad.
- 38:17Material
- 38:18where him and hillary and the gang or,
- 38:21you know, they're talking about
- 38:23the stuff they do
- 38:25hot dogs and pizzas.
- 38:27And the artist what's name Marina
- 38:29Ab bra vic. Yeah.
- 38:31There is stuff now.
- 38:34That is out there in the public realm.
- 38:38It may not be being talked about by
- 38:39the mainstream media, but then we're not surprised
- 38:41by that.
- 38:43But it's out there and 25 years ago,
- 38:47the only way you would get insight into
- 38:49this was if somebody escaped from it,
- 38:52and started talking about it, but then, of
- 38:54course, everybody thought they were crazy.
- 38:58You know, they've got to be crazy but
- 39:00then there was enough of them and they
- 39:01were giving certain information,
- 39:04and I read through this material, and, of
- 39:06course, asked the cease about these kinds of
- 39:08things.
- 39:10And they pretty much
- 39:12confirmed
- 39:13a lot of it and pointed out that
- 39:15some other parts of it, you know, might
- 39:17be a little bit of hyper,
- 39:20but it's so awful,
- 39:23and nobody wants to go there.
- 39:25And nowadays is getting to wear a few
- 39:28more people are going there because the whole,
- 39:31the
- 39:32trafficking of children,
- 39:33sex trafficking of women,
- 39:36The exposure of the elite, the Epstein situation
- 39:40and John Pod, Hillary Clinton and
- 39:44Bill Clinton and in Obama even,
- 39:46and now Candace owens going after
- 39:49B My.
- 39:51These kinds of things
- 39:53are coming out
- 39:55little by little
- 39:57to the point where
- 39:59anybody with a few fire neurons can do
- 40:02just a little modest research and realize that
- 40:05there is a whole thing going on it
- 40:06there, but I'll tell you this.
- 40:08This a typical reaction.
- 40:11There was this young gal, and she'd been,
- 40:12you know, abducted. She was...
- 40:15H knows as client.
- 40:17Put her under hip says, you know, go
- 40:19into the, a whole abduction scenario,
- 40:22and
- 40:23she's being taken by this friendly little gray
- 40:25alien out her bedroom window to the Ufo
- 40:28that's hovering over the backyard, Everything is all
- 40:30nice and sweet and peaceful,
- 40:32like the gray type
- 40:34abduction.
- 40:36And,
- 40:37you know, I have these little techniques and
- 40:391 of them is where I have the
- 40:40person
- 40:41see event occurring on, like a television screen.
- 40:45They have a remote control.
- 40:47And the remote control gives them certain. They
- 40:50can fast forward. They can rewind, they can,
- 40:52you know, stop the action, you know, freeze
- 40:54it.
- 40:55And then they can also
- 40:56split the screen so that what it shows
- 41:00the real dynamics of what's happening
- 41:03behind
- 41:05the screen memory.
- 41:08We got to the point rochelle, you know,
- 41:09Said, okay. Split the screen and what do
- 41:11you see and she just turned into a
- 41:13b screaming writing
- 41:16mess right there on the sofa.
- 41:18And she was finally able calm down. You
- 41:20know, I took her out. I know it,
- 41:21you know, Tell me what about. This... And
- 41:23it was kinda like a jab of the
- 41:24hut type thing
- 41:25that had tentacles that were
- 41:29penetrating
- 41:31children,
- 41:32vaginal or anal
- 41:34and drawing energy out of them.
- 41:37And they were writ and crying and carrying
- 41:40on. I mean, it was like a really,
- 41:42really horrible
- 41:43scenario. I mean, the way she could possibly
- 41:45imagine.
- 41:47And then afterwards when I brought her out,
- 41:50she was so angry with me because I
- 41:53busted her bubble.
- 41:56She wanted to be special. She was being
- 41:59abducted by gray aliens because she was special
- 42:01and they were so nice at to her
- 42:02and when they put her back in her
- 42:03bed, they pulled covers them.
- 42:07Yeah. Gray is a great term. I really
- 42:10like that. And there's just all these little
- 42:13threads that I've heard you right and talk
- 42:15about that
- 42:16I've never heard before. 1 time, I heard
- 42:19you mention that
- 42:20back when you still lived in Tampa, and
- 42:22you were engaged with the Ufo community there
- 42:25was a guy involved there who said,
- 42:28that he had been killed in Vietnam and
- 42:31then brought back and had
- 42:342 hearts and black blood and this sort
- 42:36of stuff, but you've elaborated on the prospect
- 42:39of
- 42:40re
- 42:41bodies and war
- 42:43And no 1 would ever know. If the
- 42:45technology is there if these beans can do
- 42:47such a thing, you just go out to
- 42:49the battlefield and you pick some vessels that
- 42:51aren't too beaten up.
- 42:53And you re them, and it seems like
- 42:56this is something that you do think is
- 42:58possible, and maybe this guy was telling the
- 43:00truth. Yeah. His name was Eddie Page. And
- 43:03I think you can probably do some research
- 43:04time. You may find him. It turned out
- 43:07that his story
- 43:10There were a lot of doubt. And, of
- 43:11course, he used
- 43:13his
- 43:15notoriety
- 43:16in a very negative way. You know, it
- 43:18was you know, getting women abandoned his wife
- 43:20and children,
- 43:22a lot of really
- 43:23unpleasant things so that it didn't
- 43:26seem like he was really
- 43:28and you wonder about people like that, you
- 43:30know, if maybe something really did happen to
- 43:32them,
- 43:33and then they are driven to behave this
- 43:35way so that people stop believing what they're
- 43:38saying
- 43:39because they show themselves to be, you know,
- 43:41person of global moral world character.
- 43:43Which is, you know, basically what happened and
- 43:46it's happened with a lot of people,
- 43:48but
- 43:49we didn't
- 43:51explore that
- 43:52idea, and interestingly, the idea that wars are
- 43:55used to repo or, get more workers or
- 43:59whatever or
- 44:01for underground
- 44:02installations.
- 44:04And also
- 44:05not just that, but they can also re
- 44:07somebody
- 44:09do some adjustments in their faking or even
- 44:12put a different soul in them or whatever,
- 44:14send them back home as a, you know,
- 44:16somebody could survive,
- 44:18and then they're there as a sleeper just
- 44:20waiting to be
- 44:22activated at some point later in time. Head
- 44:25in some cases,
- 44:27Sometimes you wonder about people who been to
- 44:30war and then they come back and then
- 44:31they go ballistic and they, you know, shoot
- 44:33up their family or whatever.
- 44:35But in general, guys who've been battle have
- 44:39been in in wartime situations are very, very
- 44:42much to be subsidized with because, you know,
- 44:44that's a That's a brutal awakening to our
- 44:47reality and they come back and they don't
- 44:49get kinda help they need.
- 44:52They should never go in the first place.
- 44:53They should not be exposed to their shit
- 44:55in the first place. Right. I agree. And
- 44:58it seems like we're entering in an era
- 44:59where we're all about to learn that lesson
- 45:01in the hard way. Once again. And sometimes
- 45:04I think about this stuff with re animating
- 45:07and trafficking,
- 45:08like, we'll have a lot of rituals satanic
- 45:11abuse survivors that are out there telling their
- 45:13story or women who say they were on
- 45:15Epstein Island and they got off.
- 45:17And now they're talking about the people that
- 45:20they were abused by in high society.
- 45:24And I just wonder sometimes, I mean, if
- 45:26these people have such absolute control. How does
- 45:29anyone ever get off the island? Why don't
- 45:30you just kill these
- 45:32Kids. If you're using them as kids sexually
- 45:34and then they turn 18 and they're no
- 45:36longer useful. You just kill them. I mean,
- 45:38it seems pretty easy. Re bodies,
- 45:41On a battlefield
- 45:43could be useful because it's easier to coop
- 45:46a complete body than to make a new
- 45:481 from scratch, but Sometimes trafficking and it's
- 45:51like that exposes you when really,
- 45:53you could just have networks
- 45:55of enslaved women,
- 45:57giving birth
- 45:59underground and you have your own feeder system,
- 46:02I mean, it's quite a dark way to
- 46:03think about it, but it's like if they
- 46:05have absolute control.
- 46:07And they want
- 46:08bodies for slaves or food or whatever.
- 46:12Epstein did talk about the prospect of wanting
- 46:15on his ranch to have a bunch of
- 46:17women to and pregnant a bunch of women
- 46:19and then have them just
- 46:20churn out his children. I mean, this is
- 46:22just 1 guy, but I would imagine there's
- 46:24some systems out there where that is happening
- 46:27that they're just en the women and using
- 46:29them as breeder
- 46:32chained to a bed,
- 46:34And then they have kids who have no
- 46:36advocates in the world at all.
- 46:38No 1 even knows exist. They have no
- 46:40social security number. No one's ever gonna find
- 46:42them and now you're kind of completely outside
- 46:45the system with people that you just
- 46:48bread.
- 46:50Yeah. And I think it probably happens and
- 46:53it is happening.
- 46:55The only thing is is that
- 46:58When you start getting into the hyper dimensional
- 47:01aspect of it,
- 47:02I think that's with a glitch for our
- 47:05reality
- 47:06comes from.
- 47:08Because, you know, it's like,
- 47:10you know, Rob talked about this and the
- 47:11Seas talked about this about
- 47:14free will being
- 47:16probably,
- 47:17you know, the most important law and all
- 47:19of creation.
- 47:22And if you
- 47:23enslave a society,
- 47:26without
- 47:27letting them know
- 47:29that they are in the process of being
- 47:31enslaved and having them accept willing.
- 47:35You have made a violation kinda like violating
- 47:38gravity
- 47:39in our realm.
- 47:41If you
- 47:42jump off a building
- 47:44and think you can fly, you know, gravity
- 47:46is gonna straighten you out really fast. And
- 47:49I think if you try to take over
- 47:51a whole population without
- 47:54giving them warning without giving them some element
- 47:58of choice
- 48:00it's kinda like jumping off a building. You
- 48:01know, you lose
- 48:03polarity. You are d go.
- 48:06I think that there are penalties there are
- 48:09things that happen as the natural course events
- 48:11in the hyper dimensional realms,
- 48:13which is what
- 48:15causes
- 48:17this element of uncertainty
- 48:20of ambiguity in our reality so that things
- 48:24do leak out.
- 48:25People do escape and warn us. You know,
- 48:28there are can in the mind all over
- 48:31the place. We are given the opportunity to
- 48:34choose
- 48:351 way or the other,
- 48:37and that's part of the whole
- 48:39setup, I think. And
- 48:42that's the only reason I can see for
- 48:44that
- 48:45being the way it is, and, of course,
- 48:46it was more or less confirmed by ra,
- 48:49and, you know, by the sea and then,
- 48:51of course, if you think about it from
- 48:52a point of view.
- 48:55Because
- 48:56if you get something
- 48:58and you don't have to work for it.
- 49:01It's not very tasty.
- 49:03Those negative dudes they'd like to stop and
- 49:06they like to get you wearing you out,
- 49:08tying out, but they want you to it
- 49:10out.
- 49:11Because it's a part of their ego and
- 49:13that's part of the S reality these these
- 49:15incredible egos. They want you to know how
- 49:18bad they are. What they're going to do
- 49:19to you and how they're going to munch
- 49:21you up.
- 49:22And then you're going to see? Yes.
- 49:25Anyway,
- 49:26Yeah. No. That is a great
- 49:28response that does make a lot of sense
- 49:30that there's higher order laws
- 49:33and forces in reality that make it so
- 49:35that you do have to get people to
- 49:38accept their enslave. That's
- 49:41probably true. Now,
- 49:43you've just written about so many things
- 49:46So far, we've really been talking big picture
- 49:48stuff, but there's also a lot of little
- 49:50things like mysterious artifacts and underground
- 49:54remnants of a civilization and malta and the
- 49:56k r's and all sorts of more
- 50:00concentrated
- 50:01pockets of mystery we could say?
- 50:03What do you consider some of your favorites?
- 50:05The under explored threads that still intriguing you
- 50:09most?
- 50:11Oh, dear.
- 50:12There's not much that I haven't explored.
- 50:16And, you know, it's funny because all of
- 50:18those different things are all pieces of the
- 50:21puzzle
- 50:23that
- 50:24reveal. I mean, if they're looked at properly,
- 50:26they reveal the hyper dimensional realm. They reveal
- 50:29that there is a lot more
- 50:32to our world than we are immediately aware
- 50:35of when we look out the window and
- 50:37see the cars passing and know, whatever.
- 50:41Ancient
- 50:42civilizations are
- 50:43obviously a favorite,
- 50:45mega cultures are a big favorite.
- 50:48What about something like this? So it's stuck
- 50:51out to me when I was going through
- 50:53your work that you referenced
- 50:56Linda Mu howell, and this documentary of hers
- 51:00antarctica, Alien secrets beneath the ice from 2019,
- 51:03and you say she interviewed an ex navy
- 51:05seal who claimed to have entered an ancient
- 51:08octagon base made of Blacks stone, which extended
- 51:12deep underground in 2003.
- 51:14The door to the base was ins with
- 51:16the black sun symbol, the walls with
- 51:20unrecognizable hi gl.
- 51:22The large empty inner chambers were lit in
- 51:25green light that seemed to ema from nowhere
- 51:28and the temperature inside was a constant 70
- 51:31degrees fahrenheit.
- 51:32I mean, whoa. Those are those little things
- 51:35that really intrigued me
- 51:38I don't know if you know much about
- 51:39this except from the documentary, but what do
- 51:41you think's going on in antarctica. It seems
- 51:44to be like a hotbed of mystery?
- 51:46Well, the seeds have said there are things
- 51:48going on an antarctica for a long time
- 51:50and, you know, I've been really skeptical about
- 51:52it.
- 51:54Yeah. Because it's probably
- 51:56unusual
- 51:58to find somebody who does an experiment like
- 52:00the seas.
- 52:01And gets these various answers and so forth,
- 52:03but then the person he's doing is skeptical
- 52:05of it. But, you know, I'm pretty skeptical
- 52:08of some of this stuff.
- 52:10And I and I have to really work
- 52:12hard and research things before I decide all,
- 52:14okay. Maybe that makes some sense.
- 52:16So this article saying has been something I
- 52:19have been really skeptical about. But you know,
- 52:22they said that
- 52:24the Germans
- 52:25what, you know, some Germans
- 52:27who were part of like, the tu society
- 52:29who were in touch with
- 52:32negative
- 52:33beings,
- 52:34were
- 52:35allowed to or taken to or went to
- 52:39an underground base in antarctica.
- 52:42And then this whole linda and how thing,
- 52:45you know, kinda gives a little bit of
- 52:48confirmation into that.
- 52:50And
- 52:51There it is. That's out there, and it's
- 52:53like everything else, You know, 25 years ago,
- 52:55you were just having, you know, some crazy
- 52:57people coming out talking about
- 53:00satanic ritual abuse, and now it's in your
- 53:03face
- 53:04via the media. So is this another 1
- 53:07of those things that it's just
- 53:09little pockets of
- 53:11information coming through here and there,
- 53:13and then all of a sudden, Sunday, you
- 53:15know, it'll be in our face.
- 53:17We'll know more about it.
- 53:19Yeah, it is hard to know, but it
- 53:21seems like there is a narrative that makes
- 53:23a little bit of sense that
- 53:26nazis when their whole operation got so big
- 53:29that it just had to be dismantled. Some
- 53:31of them
- 53:32escaped or just retreated back to Chile and
- 53:35then antarctica and they have space in New
- 53:37Schwab and lin, and then they sent Admiral
- 53:40bird to check it out, and he was
- 53:41chased off and was like, yeah, We can't
- 53:43beat these guys.
- 53:44And then you have stories like being taken
- 53:46down to a base like this. There's a
- 53:48lot of major political figures
- 53:51and astronauts like Neil Armstrong who just randomly
- 53:54took these trips these expeditions to see something
- 53:57down in antarctica, and then we have the
- 54:0019 52
- 54:02Flying sauce fly over of the White House
- 54:05and it's like, well, why would aliens or
- 54:07some kind of bizarre multi dimensional creature care
- 54:10about the White House?
- 54:12And the case has been made that that
- 54:14was a show of power from these escape
- 54:16nazis are like, look. We got these crafts,
- 54:19you can't touch us We're flying over the
- 54:21White House.
- 54:22Fuck you, you know, don't come down here
- 54:25anymore, or you're gonna
- 54:27be entering a world of pain. Maybe it
- 54:29was symbolic taking over of the Us during
- 54:32the Us into what the Seas called, the
- 54:34S sds capital of the world.
- 54:37And
- 54:38there was something else I was gonna say,
- 54:39and then I got kinda of
- 54:41what you were saying was entertaining.
- 54:46But
- 54:47Oh, yeah.
- 54:48We once
- 54:50talked about the whole nazi thing, you know,
- 54:53and for me, that was a burning issue.
- 54:56Hen pointed out that the Nazi experience
- 55:01of World war 2
- 55:02was a trial run for what was going
- 55:05to be coming
- 55:07to our world in the future
- 55:09to the time at which I was asking
- 55:11this question with just over 20 years ago.
- 55:14It was in 19 96.
- 55:18Here, you know, my husband came.
- 55:20And
- 55:22they told us, you know, that it was
- 55:23a trial run, and they've told us some
- 55:25of the things. And, of course, what we're
- 55:27seeing now is the
- 55:29manifestation of that
- 55:31prediction, you know, and I don't know if
- 55:33you really call it a prediction if an
- 55:35entity.
- 55:36At some level, can see, you know, what
- 55:38other people's plans are, what they're gonna do
- 55:40and so on and so forth well, it's
- 55:42really a prediction. It's basically telling you what's
- 55:44gonna happen?
- 55:46So, yeah, we are now
- 55:48in a nazi takeover
- 55:50of the world,
- 55:52the world.
- 55:54I mean, it's almost like global,
- 55:56and it's bizarre is all get out
- 55:59and the craziest thing about it is is
- 56:02the fact that
- 56:04You know, and I asked what was the
- 56:06deal about the master race and the c's
- 56:08were really cage with me about that. And
- 56:10we went back and forth on the whole
- 56:12master racing.
- 56:13And it took me a while to figured
- 56:15it out, and I figured out and I
- 56:17realized that
- 56:19the Germans thought that they
- 56:21were creating the master race
- 56:24as germans,
- 56:26but it wasn't necessarily so they were being
- 56:29used.
- 56:31To create the situation
- 56:34where
- 56:35the master race
- 56:37that the S sds beings wanted created
- 56:40could then grow and develop.
- 56:44That is really interesting because obvious, in conspiracy
- 56:48land everybody's always trying to figure out who
- 56:50is the highest level
- 56:52human controllers on the big pyramid.
- 56:56Is it the Jews? Is it the free
- 56:57Mason, the j, the Nazis,
- 57:01and we go round and round and
- 57:03sometimes I'm thinking that it's really just as
- 57:06arbitrary is left versus right Democrat Republican that
- 57:09at the top, like,
- 57:10They're not truly competing like you would think
- 57:13regular people would compete because they know they've
- 57:16got the rest of the world.
- 57:17On lock. But now this is bubbling up.
- 57:20People seeing the Israeli
- 57:22situation and how all the American
- 57:25politicians are just bending over and saying, they
- 57:27can do whatever they want And it's like,
- 57:29well, wait a minute. Who really controls this
- 57:31place?
- 57:32You know? And so then they start thinking
- 57:33well, I guess, the Jews are the Apex?
- 57:36And you go back to World War 2
- 57:37and it's like, well, the Rockefeller
- 57:39and some of the real money people are
- 57:41funding both sides.
- 57:43And the Roth child are supposed to be
- 57:45Jewish. Well, why were they funding the nazis.
- 57:48So it gets really tangled up, and I
- 57:51don't know if we should really ever be
- 57:52looking for 1
- 57:54ethnic group to be the apex, but I'm...
- 57:57I mean, people make their case and I'm
- 57:59like, yeah, that's true and
- 58:01And there's this other thing too. So, like,
- 58:03I kinda think it's alt. I listen to
- 58:05all cases
- 58:06and just say, yeah, you're probably right. J,
- 58:09huge power center, Free mason huge power center,
- 58:12Ka banking Jewish families. Yeah, Also up there.
- 58:16Nazis 2, like, I don't know if we
- 58:18should really
- 58:19try to rank them.
- 58:21Maybe at the top level, there our members
- 58:23from each.
- 58:24Exactly.
- 58:26It's not really worth ranking them
- 58:28in terms of their power. And it shifts.
- 58:31I mean, for example,
- 58:33This was something that Glenn Green,
- 58:36and a recent interview with Tucker Cross and
- 58:38he talked about, you know, the way
- 58:41The left used to be this and this
- 58:43and this, and then now they're completely you
- 58:45know, what they were not before and then
- 58:47the right used to be this and this
- 58:49and this.
- 58:50And now you look at the left,
- 58:53supporting the Palestinians,
- 58:55which, you know, any rational person would do,
- 58:57but nearly everything else left does is rep
- 59:00and despicable.
- 59:02I any you look at the right, which
- 59:03is
- 59:05supporting Israel, which is completely under the circumstances
- 59:08at the moment.
- 59:09Despicable. But then they want, you know, free
- 59:12speech and they want
- 59:13family values, etcetera, etcetera. So they've got all
- 59:16of these positives
- 59:18points on them. So it's like they mix
- 59:20things up and they can confuse them. And
- 59:22the season even said that. They said, you
- 59:24know, that they shift and change,
- 59:26you know, just to confuse people, to keep
- 59:28people off ballast and off filter and that's
- 59:30exactly what they're doing, and that's what happens
- 59:32with the
- 59:33apex of this so called pyramid.
- 59:36The Russians back when they were under the
- 59:38old Soviet thing. They were, you know, less
- 59:41people were happy.
- 59:43So, obviously, it wasn't a very good system.
- 59:46And rightfully, you know, we didn't want to
- 59:48have that kind of system in our country.
- 59:51And yet now, it's coming to our country
- 59:52and Russia seems to be like a Bastion
- 59:55of family values and freedom and rule of
- 59:58law,
- 1:00:00you know, not
- 1:00:01rules based order.
- 1:00:03Yeah.
- 1:00:04Different eras, things change. It's a shell game.
- 1:00:08It is a shell game. Yeah. I agree
- 1:00:10with that.
- 1:00:11And
- 1:00:12you know, as we're getting done with this
- 1:00:14first hour here, you're really good at bucking
- 1:00:16trends, you wrote a book about cyclical cataclysm
- 1:00:20and
- 1:00:21all this sorts of apocalypse stuff in 20
- 1:00:2312 when everybody was all locks up about
- 1:00:26what was gonna happen. You're like, Don't know
- 1:00:28if it's gonna play out that way.
- 1:00:30And that was a bold stance at the
- 1:00:31time because it's easier to just go with
- 1:00:33the trend and sell books and do
- 1:00:36interviews and be on the conference circuit.
- 1:00:39Well, what about now? I mean, we have,
- 1:00:41obviously,
- 1:00:42you would say multiple powder c that look
- 1:00:46to be things that could really boil over
- 1:00:49anytime the Saudi just
- 1:00:51ended the 50 year
- 1:00:53pet dollar agreement, that seems
- 1:00:56probably worth thinking about? And then we have
- 1:00:59the wars? Like, what do you see coming
- 1:01:01to pass in the next
- 1:01:03couple of decades? What's the next chapter of
- 1:01:05the human story on this plane look like
- 1:01:08to you for Americans or anyone?
- 1:01:11I'm not just sure we now a couple
- 1:01:13of decades at this point.
- 1:01:15Yikes.
- 1:01:16Things are extremely volatile.
- 1:01:20Goodness patient,
- 1:01:22and he's measured and he's controlled, but
- 1:01:25he's not stupid,
- 1:01:28and he's not a coward,
- 1:01:31and
- 1:01:32the
- 1:01:33zion neo cons that are controlling
- 1:01:36the Us government and make no mistake about
- 1:01:39it is zion, neo cons.
- 1:01:42They're blind. There's so many that are the
- 1:01:44psychopathic
- 1:01:46and psycho
- 1:01:48have it and capacity
- 1:01:51to conceive of
- 1:01:53realistic
- 1:01:55consequences.
- 1:01:57You know, they're saying we create our reality,
- 1:02:00you know, and you have to watch and
- 1:02:01and you watch what we create.
- 1:02:03And the Hub is just
- 1:02:06unbelievable. So they are pushing
- 1:02:08everything that's going on. They're pushing this whole
- 1:02:11you create thing. They're allowing the the whole
- 1:02:14zion
- 1:02:15destruction of Palestine, which is a criminal act.
- 1:02:18I mean, they went in there and stole
- 1:02:19the land from those people had been there
- 1:02:21for a thousand years or more.
- 1:02:24You know, and now they're ex them,
- 1:02:27it's actually worse
- 1:02:29than the
- 1:02:31holocaust cost,
- 1:02:33and I'm not gonna be 1 of those
- 1:02:35people who says there was no low cost
- 1:02:37because from my point of view there obviously
- 1:02:39was
- 1:02:40something definitely like, oh. But, you know, I
- 1:02:43always measure, you know, 6000000 Jews against the
- 1:02:4527000000
- 1:02:46russians.
- 1:02:48And I'm saying, you know,
- 1:02:51what was the real holocaust here?
- 1:02:53The
- 1:02:54And, of course,
- 1:02:55something else may
- 1:02:58enter intervene.
- 1:02:59I mean, the weather is not looking very
- 1:03:01friendly right now, and I've been predicting an
- 1:03:03ice age for a number of years, the
- 1:03:06disease have been predicting l age.
- 1:03:08And they've even said that when it starts
- 1:03:10to happen, it can happen very, very fast.
- 1:03:13And meanwhile, these idiots out there?
- 1:03:16Now do they know that there's a possibility
- 1:03:19of an ice age and they're trying to
- 1:03:21help it along and that's why, you know,
- 1:03:23Bill gates wants to shade us from the
- 1:03:25sun?
- 1:03:26Or are they really that stupid? And sometimes
- 1:03:29I think they're really that stupid?
- 1:03:33Because they have to understand that whatever they're
- 1:03:36doing,
- 1:03:37whatever kind of world they're creating.
- 1:03:40They are going to die
- 1:03:44eventually.
- 1:03:46Some sooner than later.
- 1:03:48Unless they think that the 4 density beans
- 1:03:50that they take their orders from are going
- 1:03:53somehow
- 1:03:54bring them up to their level or something.
- 1:03:56Maybe they have promised them something, but the
- 1:03:58thing is, all things being equal, they're gonna
- 1:04:01die and their children are gonna inherit the
- 1:04:02world that they leave.
- 1:04:04And if they make things so difficult
- 1:04:08that it's basically
- 1:04:09a few steps away from a stone age
- 1:04:11existence,
- 1:04:12money isn't got a amount to anything.
- 1:04:16And their children may be left billions of
- 1:04:18dollars, but their billions won't wisdom any good.
- 1:04:20And they will become targets of
- 1:04:23whoever's is left that have become
- 1:04:25tribes that are looking for revenge. You know,
- 1:04:27I can see some really ugly scenarios. Playing
- 1:04:30out from this business.
- 1:04:31So if we're gonna have an ice age
- 1:04:33or if we're gonna have some serious global
- 1:04:35cooling and it's looking like it,
- 1:04:37or if we're going to have
- 1:04:40some kind of commentary
- 1:04:42bombardment scenario, which is another thing the seeds
- 1:04:44have been predicting.
- 1:04:46You know, some things might intervene to completely
- 1:04:49spoil all of their plans altogether.
- 1:04:52A few good
- 1:04:54commentary bodies or fragments, you know, exploding in
- 1:04:57the atmosphere over the year of some em
- 1:04:59impulses
- 1:05:00and all our technology has gone. Boom dead
- 1:05:02gone.
- 1:05:03You know, Fries everything.
- 1:05:05And when I'm having this interview with Jay
- 1:05:07Campbell. I don't know if you noticed on
- 1:05:09interview 5,
- 1:05:11he asked me a similar question, and then
- 1:05:13I was talking about, you know, possibilities
- 1:05:16between
- 1:05:17nuclear war or
- 1:05:19commentary
- 1:05:20bombardment and right at that moment, there was
- 1:05:21this huge explosion.
- 1:05:23Yeah.
- 1:05:24He felt like it was a shotgun
- 1:05:26or something that went off. Well, Hunter said
- 1:05:29it sounded like a shotgun because he was
- 1:05:30hearing at some different, but I was sitting
- 1:05:33here.
- 1:05:34And
- 1:05:35I could feel the blast
- 1:05:37even though the window is shut in this
- 1:05:40double pane, you know, heavy duty double pane
- 1:05:42window.
- 1:05:44We asked the seas bad and they said
- 1:05:45it was confirmation.
- 1:05:48Then they're happening a lot all over the
- 1:05:49planet anyway. People are hearing these strange explosions
- 1:05:52and
- 1:05:54the increasing number of fireball
- 1:05:56activity
- 1:05:58and Victor K, of course has predicted that
- 1:06:00we are
- 1:06:01in
- 1:06:02a period of extreme firewall
- 1:06:06commentary flux.
- 1:06:08So we are in a very dangerous period
- 1:06:10now. We have been for some years.
- 1:06:13And that's what I said. I said 6
- 1:06:15of 1 half a dozen of the other
- 1:06:16and in as fred happened.
- 1:06:19So I will say that to you. It's
- 1:06:216 1 half dozen the other. We're gonna
- 1:06:22have nuclear war,
- 1:06:24or we're gonna have commentary bombard. When it
- 1:06:27rains at pours.
- 1:06:29I don't think we have a couple of
- 1:06:31decades, maybe not,
- 1:06:33sadly.
- 1:06:34I mean, think about it.
- 1:06:36The way it is right now.
- 1:06:40How long do you think
- 1:06:43people can stand to this?
- 1:06:46Well, it's hard to say. I guess, it
- 1:06:48depends on
- 1:06:49where your focus is because I think there's
- 1:06:52a counter argument that for a lot of
- 1:06:54people if they're distancing themselves from media,
- 1:06:58and the Internet, and they're living in a
- 1:07:01place that maybe isn't
- 1:07:03super vulnerable, Like, there's gonna be some belts
- 1:07:05where
- 1:07:07it is habitable,
- 1:07:08even if large areas aren't anymore,
- 1:07:11There's people who are trying to do, like,
- 1:07:13a more
- 1:07:14independent, off grid, self sustainable sort of thing.
- 1:07:18And I think they have the right idea
- 1:07:19and they're Probably will be some pockets that
- 1:07:22are okay. 1 thing I always took from
- 1:07:23Graham Hancock as he talks about, like, major
- 1:07:26cataclysm and
- 1:07:28says, you know, the people who are going
- 1:07:30to see it as
- 1:07:32the big apocalypse are us, You know, the
- 1:07:34ones in modern society, but there's a lot
- 1:07:36of people living within nature and indigenous contexts
- 1:07:40that are just gonna be like, well, nothing's
- 1:07:42changed in my world. Yeah. It's a little
- 1:07:44colder, but I know how to survive out
- 1:07:46here, you don't.
- 1:07:48And I think that, you know, there might
- 1:07:50be some truth to that. Like, when
- 1:07:52Existed, there probably still were indigenous people that
- 1:07:54didn't even care that it fell.
- 1:07:57Exactly. But what's you're talking about here is
- 1:07:59pockets.
- 1:08:01While,
- 1:08:02something else much larger is happening,
- 1:08:05you know, above and around
- 1:08:08these pockets.
- 1:08:10And that's really what we're looking at because
- 1:08:12we're talking about the majority of humanity is
- 1:08:15not gonna go and they lost the grid.
- 1:08:17Right? But I'm trying to find that pocket.
- 1:08:19I'm trying to get in that pocket and
- 1:08:21wrap myself up, nice and cozy.
- 1:08:24Well, I know and I think
- 1:08:27I felt more that way 25, 30 years
- 1:08:31ago,
- 1:08:33but now I'm 72 years old.
- 1:08:36You know, And when you're 72 years old
- 1:08:38like being 9 months pregnant, you know, when
- 1:08:40you're 9 months pregnant, you're more sick of
- 1:08:42being pregnant than you are scared of having
- 1:08:44baby.
- 1:08:45When you said at 2 years old, you're
- 1:08:46more sick of living than you are scared
- 1:08:48of dying.
- 1:08:49I get that. I get that. So this
- 1:08:51is a good 1 to end on. But
- 1:08:53in terms of freeing us
- 1:08:56or solving our
- 1:08:58initial plate that we talked about bean property
- 1:09:00bean food.
- 1:09:02You write the way back to the activation
- 1:09:05of the Dna
- 1:09:06necessary to attain the contact with the higher
- 1:09:09centers,
- 1:09:10is not through genetic
- 1:09:12manipulation, which is seen the question through the
- 1:09:15lens of matrix
- 1:09:16influences.
- 1:09:17The way back is through the ancient spiritual
- 1:09:20science the real work of the a,
- 1:09:23which through the heating of the crux,
- 1:09:25the neo,
- 1:09:27rewrite the brain,
- 1:09:28so that the ancient and broken connection with
- 1:09:31the higher centers can be reestablish.
- 1:09:34Seems like a good way to go out,
- 1:09:35but help people understand what you're saying here.
- 1:09:38Well, here, we're talking about what we call
- 1:09:40the work,
- 1:09:42because it is work.
- 1:09:44And sometimes it's very hard work. And
- 1:09:47it has to do with
- 1:09:49being able to train yourself to see the
- 1:09:52unseen reality, and that comes from
- 1:09:55sometimes from a lot of discussion and talking.
- 1:09:58I mean, it could be something as simple
- 1:10:00as saying, well,
- 1:10:03These various things happen to me in the
- 1:10:05last few days, and it's like my reality
- 1:10:08is trying to get my attention. You know,
- 1:10:10what do I need to look at in
- 1:10:12myself?
- 1:10:14There's a lot of material about the work
- 1:10:16and the
- 1:10:17no
- 1:10:18series
- 1:10:19by boris Mu.
- 1:10:22Gru was on to some of it, you
- 1:10:23know, we love Ge, but Ge didn't have
- 1:10:26the whole banana.
- 1:10:27And we like cast tomatoes, a lot of
- 1:10:30material. He... You know, I I think he
- 1:10:33was kinda doing a r on.
- 1:10:35But we have collected together of various
- 1:10:39ways and means, and it comes down to
- 1:10:41working with your emotions and your brain, you
- 1:10:44know, being able to
- 1:10:46think
- 1:10:47properly with your brain to free yourself from
- 1:10:50influences
- 1:10:51of your upbringing, your society, your religion your
- 1:10:54school, whatever,
- 1:10:56being able to deal with your emotions with
- 1:10:59your brain because emotions,
- 1:11:01should not run your brain. You shouldn't think
- 1:11:04with your emotions, but most people do you
- 1:11:05think with their emotions, and we try to
- 1:11:07learn you separate that out.
- 1:11:10Where the emotions where you could feel the
- 1:11:13emotions and you could still think clearly with
- 1:11:15your brain while your emotions are roi along
- 1:11:18inside,
- 1:11:20it's a pretty complicated process, but, you know,
- 1:11:23that's the easiest way to
- 1:11:25talk about it is to talk about it
- 1:11:27in terms of the work and
- 1:11:29we use various methods, and we do it,
- 1:11:31you know, basically, we do it on our
- 1:11:33forum. I mean, we do it in a
- 1:11:35more concentrated way.
- 1:11:37During in person
- 1:11:39workshops and
- 1:11:41retreats and so forth, you know, we have
- 1:11:43a constant flow of group members that, you
- 1:11:45know, common.
- 1:11:46We work with them.
- 1:11:48But mostly, we do the introductory type work,
- 1:11:50you know, right there on the forum.
- 1:11:53Where people come in and they start to
- 1:11:55talk about their problems and we try to
- 1:11:57help them to separate their emotions from their
- 1:11:59thoughts
- 1:12:00and to get rid of their programming.
- 1:12:02Some of the worst programming, and I'll tell
- 1:12:04you right a upfront. It's the b nice
- 1:12:06program.
- 1:12:07You know, we're conditioned to be nice since
- 1:12:09they're not saying no going to be in
- 1:12:11a run over and to be used and
- 1:12:14manipulate so forth then and helping people to
- 1:12:16get over the B Ice program is probably
- 1:12:18really, really hard.
- 1:12:20Is probably 1 of the hardest things that
- 1:12:22they ever do, but it's doing those kinds
- 1:12:23of things. That gets them into a state.
- 1:12:27Where they begin to see the unseen on
- 1:12:31their own.
- 1:12:32They can begin to see when the universe
- 1:12:34is interacting with them in a dance
- 1:12:38rather than against them.
- 1:12:42And the caesar said, it's not
- 1:12:44where you are
- 1:12:46with counts.
- 1:12:47It's though you are and what you see.
- 1:12:51So we figured if we can get enough
- 1:12:53people just into that state where they are
- 1:12:57cleared of being run by their emotions, and
- 1:13:00it's not easy
- 1:13:02If you can get, you know, 200 people
- 1:13:04into that state, then they can actually act
- 1:13:07together if we do,
- 1:13:09some other activities we get together and we
- 1:13:12do some
- 1:13:13meditation together. We do some remote viewing, experiment
- 1:13:16type things. We do some
- 1:13:18hyper dimensional
- 1:13:20visualizations and
- 1:13:22various like. We do that all by Skype
- 1:13:24or zoom or whatever it is, you know,
- 1:13:27sometimes they have couple hundred people
- 1:13:29at the same time, all over the world
- 1:13:31at the same time meditating on the same
- 1:13:33thing together.
- 1:13:35And if you get people that are in
- 1:13:37this
- 1:13:38more clear state where they're emotions,
- 1:13:42are under control and their
- 1:13:45brains are functional without being drowned getting their
- 1:13:48emotions.
- 1:13:50And they have worked on getting themselves into
- 1:13:53a fairly healthy state, and they don't eat
- 1:13:55trash and garbage and
- 1:13:57There's many parameters.
- 1:13:59Yeah. I would think so, but man.
- 1:14:02My mind is blown. I'm sure I'm not
- 1:14:04alone. We covered a ton of ground. We
- 1:14:06fit pretty much everything on my weird little
- 1:14:09outline here from digesting your work. I think
- 1:14:11it's really great, big picture stuff, small,
- 1:14:14little,
- 1:14:15threads, micro,
- 1:14:17macro,
- 1:14:18what would you like to leave people with?
- 1:14:20That was a little bit of a preview
- 1:14:21of some of your activities and the forum,
- 1:14:24but tell them about the books, the subs
- 1:14:26stack, any upcoming work they might want to
- 1:14:29know about ways to engage that sort of
- 1:14:31thing.
- 1:14:32Well, the best way to engage just to
- 1:14:34enjoy the form, but don't expect it to
- 1:14:36be like any form you've ever been on.
- 1:14:38You know, we have some rules
- 1:14:40You know, and we have the form for
- 1:14:43reason. It's for doing the work. I mean,
- 1:14:45yes, we discuss literally everything under the sun.
- 1:14:49But there are some
- 1:14:51limitations. I don't let Light magicians come on
- 1:14:53my form and propagate their philosophies.
- 1:14:57But joining our forum is 1 thing and
- 1:15:00then after people have been on the forum
- 1:15:02for a while, you know, we have an
- 1:15:04organization, they can join the organization, they can
- 1:15:06get says to
- 1:15:08our private forum where we coordinate activities between
- 1:15:12members and ourselves and
- 1:15:14do a number of things that, you know,
- 1:15:16I don't really talk about it It's on
- 1:15:17a private form for reason. Sure.
- 1:15:20That's probably the main thing to do reading
- 1:15:23the books of accord, reading the wave is
- 1:15:25the first thing to do.
- 1:15:26You don't have to reach secret history or
- 1:15:28all the other things, but the wave is
- 1:15:30about
- 1:15:32exposing
- 1:15:34the high initial reality.
- 1:15:36The other books are about particular research interest
- 1:15:40and scenarios that I've gotten into and their
- 1:15:43corolla
- 1:15:44to
- 1:15:45the things that the seeds have talked about.
- 1:15:47But if you want to just
- 1:15:49some get into the whole thing about the
- 1:15:51hyper dimensional reality, how we're are embedded in
- 1:15:53it, then the wave and which you need
- 1:15:56to need. Heck yeah. 8 books now.
- 1:16:00Yeah. And my last book was from Paul
- 1:16:03to mark, which was
- 1:16:05exposing who Jesus really was.
- 1:16:09A whole another rabbit hole, and I guess
- 1:16:10we'll leave it at that. And
- 1:16:13thank you so much for your time and
- 1:16:15for
- 1:16:16Go into all these weird places with me.
- 1:16:18It's been a lot of fun, Keep up
- 1:16:20the great work and take care out there.
- 1:16:22Well, I thank you very much for... Having
- 1:16:24me and it was really good because you're
- 1:16:26you're good. You're prepared. She
- 1:16:31having
- 1:16:32G's indeed people, g's indeed, solid stuff from
- 1:16:36Lara Knight Ja.
- 1:16:39She's been in the game a long time.
- 1:16:42And I'm glad she was willing to do
- 1:16:43this. She's got so much material that I
- 1:16:45couldn't squeeze in every thing. But I think
- 1:16:47we focused on the stuff that is most
- 1:16:49compelling,
- 1:16:50most unique and most far out
- 1:16:53as is our special thing see. And the
- 1:16:55term Gray is a great way to describe
- 1:16:58the... It's all love and light Stephen Greer
- 1:17:00types.
- 1:17:01Obviously, when she says the seas she's referring
- 1:17:04to the Cas.
- 1:17:06Though as we said early on in the
- 1:17:09channel when she asked them who they were,
- 1:17:12They told her, we are you from the
- 1:17:15future. So who the hell knows what's really
- 1:17:17going on, but I like that Lara doesn't
- 1:17:20rely on the channel alone. She's actually a
- 1:17:23great researcher in her own right, and then
- 1:17:25she just asks the seas their thoughts on
- 1:17:28things.
- 1:17:29And then adds it to her work as
- 1:17:31another layer of analysis.
- 1:17:34Kinda like books c written by
- 1:17:362 different people with their own takes.
- 1:17:39But I like how early she was with
- 1:17:41some of her nuanced views even when they
- 1:17:44weren't trendy, You gotta respect that.
- 1:17:46So often the term G is levi at
- 1:17:49people in this space, and to me a
- 1:17:52G,
- 1:17:53is someone who hops from 1 trendy position
- 1:17:56to another. They don't challenge the dominant perspectives
- 1:17:59in the space.
- 1:18:01So I like her and we covered a
- 1:18:02ton of different things. I think the organic
- 1:18:05portals thing is pretty interesting, very much like
- 1:18:08Npc as I mentioned,
- 1:18:10but we really don't know anything about the
- 1:18:12world except how we feel about our selves
- 1:18:14in our own consciousness and body, and then
- 1:18:17we just assume that others feel the same.
- 1:18:20But there could be plenty of empty vessels
- 1:18:22out there, plenty of human husks for spirits
- 1:18:25to be walking around in, and we would
- 1:18:27have no idea.
- 1:18:28Now I'm starting to sound like I'm describing
- 1:18:30the plot of men in black but it's
- 1:18:32an interesting thing to think about
- 1:18:34as is humans as an energetic food source
- 1:18:37and to what degree the human elite are
- 1:18:39just managing the farm you know, I like
- 1:18:41that kind of far up material,
- 1:18:43as well as hearing about some more obscure
- 1:18:46researchers that I don't hear that much about.
- 1:18:48But with the second hour we got into
- 1:18:50a lot more.
- 1:18:52The power and qualities of the moon's light,
- 1:18:54stone technology,
- 1:18:56Lara favorite 40 stories, spontaneous human combustion,
- 1:19:00homo pho, and sonic elements of fourth dimensional
- 1:19:03events, time travel through caves,
- 1:19:07Window followers encrypted and Covid va as a
- 1:19:10mass abduction in a way.
- 1:19:13And I do love the term window followers.
- 1:19:15She has a
- 1:19:16on Crypt very similar to a apache Harper,
- 1:19:20and she calls them basically beans that fell
- 1:19:23out of this quote unquote window.
- 1:19:25Although I think that's the seized term, either
- 1:19:27way,
- 1:19:28I like it. And if you don't know
- 1:19:30already, I can do a lot more when
- 1:19:32I have 2 hours with a guest as
- 1:19:33opposed to just 1. So if you like
- 1:19:35what you hear become a plus member and
- 1:19:37treat yourself to the real, deal the hole
- 1:19:39in, the holy grail of conspiracy podcasting.
- 1:19:43Just click the link in the show notes
- 1:19:44and plug the plus feed right into the
- 1:19:47app you're using to listen to the free
- 1:19:49feed.
- 1:19:50And that said, in world news, how can
- 1:19:52I go much longer without mentioning that assassination
- 1:19:55attempt last night?
- 1:19:58Obviously, this is all anyone's gonna be talking
- 1:20:00about, and I just wanna relay a few
- 1:20:03observations.
- 1:20:04It was super interesting to see the initial
- 1:20:07media headlines trying to obscure the situation with
- 1:20:10words like apparent gunshots heard at rally or
- 1:20:13my favorite from
- 1:20:15Usa today.
- 1:20:17Trump removed from stage by secret service after
- 1:20:20loud noises startled Trump and crowd.
- 1:20:24I mean, what a way to say it.
- 1:20:25The bias in those headlines is just so
- 1:20:28transparent, loud noises,
- 1:20:30startled,
- 1:20:31I guess just loud noises cause bullet holes
- 1:20:34in the ear and dead bystanders.
- 1:20:38But I saw a lot of that right
- 1:20:39away. Even in my high school buddy's group
- 1:20:42chat, the liberal ones were like, that sounded
- 1:20:44like a baby gun, and this was probably
- 1:20:46planned by Trump himself. And I just laugh.
- 1:20:50It's silly the way everyone quickly tries to
- 1:20:52fit the event into a context that they
- 1:20:55prefer that supports the red or blue team
- 1:20:57they're on.
- 1:20:58And I also got a kick out of
- 1:21:00how a couple of these guys have never
- 1:21:02believed a conspiracy in their life, taking almost
- 1:21:05everything at bay value until they're confronted with
- 1:21:07something like this.
- 1:21:09And look, I don't know what happened. I
- 1:21:10don't assume to know. I'm just watching and
- 1:21:13listening to all reactions I come across and
- 1:21:15those subtle language tricks by the mainstream media
- 1:21:17are clearly manipulative.
- 1:21:19What else is manipulative is telling every liberal
- 1:21:22person that it's going to be the end
- 1:21:24of the world if this guy gets elected
- 1:21:26that he'll never leave office and he's gonna
- 1:21:29do all kinds of crazy stuff that won't
- 1:21:31actually happen.
- 1:21:32Doesn't that kinda set the stage for something
- 1:21:35like this to possibly occur?
- 1:21:371 thing I read is that the head
- 1:21:39of the secret service is a Biden appoint
- 1:21:42and they've been running on a skeleton crew,
- 1:21:45so that's just another thing like,
- 1:21:48it seems as if without doing it yourself,
- 1:21:50you might be setting the conditions for this
- 1:21:53sort of thing to maybe happen eventually,
- 1:21:57and you're not setting up the secret service
- 1:21:59for access and being able to have the
- 1:22:02resources to do something about it. I don't
- 1:22:04know.
- 1:22:06It reminds me of the R k thing.
- 1:22:08R k junior
- 1:22:09legitimate candidate for president, he requested secret service
- 1:22:14and they denied him.
- 1:22:15Given the history with family, I felt like
- 1:22:18that was very bold, and it's almost like
- 1:22:20a veil threat in and of itself.
- 1:22:23You're running for president you wanna be in
- 1:22:25the public eye. You wanna get involved in
- 1:22:27this highly volatile
- 1:22:29political arena?
- 1:22:31Good luck. You're on your own and no.
- 1:22:33We won't protect you.
- 1:22:34Kinda sends a pretty clear message to all
- 1:22:37other third party candidates forever.
- 1:22:40As for the event itself, and the claims
- 1:22:42that it didn't sound like a real gun,
- 1:22:44sure, analyze it all you want. I don't
- 1:22:45have a lot of gun experience, but the
- 1:22:47situation is set up to capture your audio
- 1:22:49from the podium only, not some distant gunshots.
- 1:22:53So who knows what it's supposed to sound
- 1:22:55like when you're hearing it through
- 1:22:57rigged up sound equipment in that situation.
- 1:23:01Was the Cia involved? I don't know. I
- 1:23:03tend to think that they don't miss in
- 1:23:05these situations unless they want to miss. But
- 1:23:07Trump was already leading. There was no reason
- 1:23:10to risk staging something,
- 1:23:12so uncontrollable like this.
- 1:23:14When it already seems like kind of a
- 1:23:16lock.
- 1:23:17Like I said, my best guess is that
- 1:23:19this is a little less hands on than
- 1:23:22a usual
- 1:23:24assassination attempt and it's more about just
- 1:23:27setting up a highly volatile
- 1:23:29situation,
- 1:23:30and seeing what happens. The media has not
- 1:23:32shut up about the...
- 1:23:34If this guy wins, it's the end of
- 1:23:36the world stuff. It's the same old political.
- 1:23:38Playbook a. They dust off every election, but
- 1:23:41it's obviously a little more ramped up now
- 1:23:43and people are more
- 1:23:45susceptible, I guess, this kind of manipulation than
- 1:23:47ever because they're so vested in their team.
- 1:23:50So if an unstable person sees Biden state
- 1:23:53of decline and thinks another 4 years of
- 1:23:55Trump will be catastrophic,
- 1:23:57then it's not unreasonable to think some volatile
- 1:23:59person somewhere will try to be a vigilant.
- 1:24:02And if there's any truth to that aspect
- 1:24:04of things where the secret service doesn't have
- 1:24:07their usual
- 1:24:09manpower capacities then, that's just icing on the
- 1:24:12cake.
- 1:24:13Sometimes a story kind of is what it
- 1:24:15is without a deeper explanation, and the fact
- 1:24:17that the guy missed and looks exactly like
- 1:24:20I'd expect him to look makes me lean
- 1:24:22that way.
- 1:24:24The sketchy stuff is the things I already
- 1:24:26mentioned on top of the reports that local
- 1:24:30people on the scene, warned law enforcement that
- 1:24:33they saw,
- 1:24:34and I know listening to some of the
- 1:24:36mainstream coverage that
- 1:24:38An early caller said there were multiple shooters
- 1:24:42which man.
- 1:24:43If I had a dollar for every time
- 1:24:45I've heard that, I'd have about 8 dollars.
- 1:24:48And then, of course, they said, well, that
- 1:24:49was just echoes. Maybe it was echoes.
- 1:24:52Or maybe there were 2 shooters and this
- 1:24:54was more orchestrated than we know. I'm not
- 1:24:56sure. But here's another observation from my personal
- 1:24:59group chat. 1 friend.
- 1:25:01I was trying to be funny and posted
- 1:25:03a compilation of Trump
- 1:25:05to 50 cents song, many men. Many many
- 1:25:08many men wish death on me.
- 1:25:11And I found it pretty funny. It's just
- 1:25:13another 1 of those things.
- 1:25:15And then a second buddy said, and I
- 1:25:17quote,
- 1:25:17when my daughters are locked away for being
- 1:25:20gay and god only knows what happens to
- 1:25:22our special needs son, I'll remember that he
- 1:25:24was 50 cents of president's fucking disgusting fuck
- 1:25:27him.
- 1:25:28And it just shows how worried some people
- 1:25:31have become over the prospect of Trump winning.
- 1:25:34I had to say to him, hey, man.
- 1:25:36You know this guy was already president for
- 1:25:384 years and, like, none of that happened.
- 1:25:41Right?
- 1:25:42Twitch, of course, can you guess he cited
- 1:25:44project 20 25 and the thing about that?
- 1:25:48Is that nobody ever heard project 20 25
- 1:25:51until Biden shit the bed at the debate.
- 1:25:53Then in my opinion, it gets rolled out
- 1:25:56as a big scary aspect of the same
- 1:25:59old
- 1:26:00If we don't beat them, it's the end
- 1:26:01of everything rhetoric that we always deal with.
- 1:26:05So I also said to my buddy, oh,
- 1:26:07well.
- 1:26:07I heard the project 20 25 documents are
- 1:26:10a thousand pages, so I haven't personally read
- 1:26:13them, but yes.
- 1:26:15If they literally say their plan is to
- 1:26:17lock up homosexual and people with special needs,
- 1:26:20then, yeah, that is a concern.
- 1:26:22But I'm pretty sure it doesn't say that,
- 1:26:24and I don't even have to read it.
- 1:26:27So more than analyzing the event at self
- 1:26:30under a microscope. I just think it's been
- 1:26:32interesting to see all these reactions from people
- 1:26:34on both sides and interpreting events.
- 1:26:37However, it suits the team narrative, and that's
- 1:26:40just really sad.
- 1:26:41There's so little objectivity and so little critical
- 1:26:44thinking and few people just willing to take
- 1:26:47a step back and observe rather than reacting.
- 1:26:50On 1 hand, I question if any event
- 1:26:53is truly genuine when it's this highly charged.
- 1:26:56And on the other hand, this is a
- 1:26:58country of billions of people with plenty of
- 1:27:00access to guns in half the country has
- 1:27:02been so primed to hate this guy that
- 1:27:04I wouldn't be surprised if someone took a
- 1:27:06stab at it and totally wi like the
- 1:27:09un unfinished luna he appears to be.
- 1:27:12Whether that's broad, political programming or something more
- 1:27:16specific to the individual, I'll probably never know.
- 1:27:19But these people don't care about you, so
- 1:27:22don't invest too much time thinking about them
- 1:27:24either.
- 1:27:25Yes, this is a conspiracy show, But I
- 1:27:27think we do a pretty good job not
- 1:27:29leaning any which way and trying to be
- 1:27:31pretty a political.
- 1:27:33You don't even hear the names Trump or
- 1:27:35Biden very much.
- 1:27:37Even in an election year because I don't
- 1:27:39think it matters too much, and we have
- 1:27:40no control over it.
- 1:27:42I've said this before talking with my strongly
- 1:27:45invested in the game liberal friends and probably
- 1:27:47on Thc at some point. But if we
- 1:27:50didn't have the Tv and the media constantly
- 1:27:53trying to suck our attention and mental energy
- 1:27:56election drama,
- 1:27:58would there really be any signs in your
- 1:28:00actual life that we got a new president?
- 1:28:03Not really?
- 1:28:04Sure. You can cite a few changes that
- 1:28:06you were told about through the media, but
- 1:28:08without being told
- 1:28:10in your everyday, local life,
- 1:28:13It's pretty much a continuum of the same
- 1:28:16stuff.
- 1:28:17Think back over the last 20 years, just
- 1:28:20even since the year 2000,
- 1:28:22I think you can look at your own
- 1:28:24trajectory as something completely separate than the back
- 1:28:27and forth swing from left to right blue
- 1:28:30to red and back again.
- 1:28:32And this is the part that really r
- 1:28:34up my liberal friends and I'm kind of
- 1:28:36half kidding, but the only indication of a
- 1:28:38new president that I'd in my personal life
- 1:28:41is that Bush and Trump both sent me
- 1:28:42checks in the mail.
- 1:28:44But anyway, I know I'm going to be
- 1:28:46asked, and those are just some thoughts.
- 1:28:49Just don't get yourself wound too tight and
- 1:28:52don't forget to be able to laugh because
- 1:28:53they laugh at us plenty.
- 1:28:56And back to the show today, Fun, big
- 1:28:58picture, wild interview, big thanks Lara, I hope
- 1:29:01this 1 comes close to matching the enjoyment
- 1:29:03and excitement of the last episode with Pope,
- 1:29:06but that is gonna be tough because that
- 1:29:09show right now has a 4.9
- 1:29:13from the plus people
- 1:29:15absolutely
- 1:29:16insane. It's like everyone gave it 5 stars
- 1:29:18and 1 guy gave it 4.
- 1:29:211 of the best reviewed episodes in Thc
- 1:29:23history definitely since I started calling it out,
- 1:29:26and these are plus people So rest assured
- 1:29:29the second hour is just as good if
- 1:29:31not better than the first? Why keep missing
- 1:29:33half the show, sign up with that 7
- 1:29:35day free trial and cancel if you don't
- 1:29:37like it?
- 1:29:38At least give me that for all my
- 1:29:40effort. Right? And a nice little add a
- 1:29:42boy for not doing sponsorships and wasting your
- 1:29:44time with ads.
- 1:29:45But man, 4.9
- 1:29:47is great. I aim to please, and it
- 1:29:49looks like last week was a solid bulls
- 1:29:51eye.
- 1:29:52Now let's check the meetup calendar. Funny, I
- 1:29:54was so critical of the lack of events
- 1:29:56and then a day later, I get a
- 1:29:58nice card in the Po box from a
- 1:30:00meetup up group, but here we go.
- 1:30:03Come and right up in just a few
- 1:30:04days, Thursday, July eighteenth, the La Truth meetup
- 1:30:07up at the coral tree.
- 1:30:09Followed by Wednesday, July 20 fourth, the Oak
- 1:30:12shire public house in Eugene Oregon,
- 1:30:15and then also on July 20 fourth is
- 1:30:18a meetup up at the corner bakery cafe
- 1:30:20in Pasadena.
- 1:30:22So, yeah, Same 3 events. I honestly pay
- 1:30:24a developer too much. On a monthly basis
- 1:30:27to keep this up for just 2 or
- 1:30:293 events.
- 1:30:31I'm not saying I'm gonna stop, but if
- 1:30:33people aren't responding to it. Maybe at the
- 1:30:35end of the year, we do wind it
- 1:30:37down. I don't wanna force something that isn't
- 1:30:39working.
- 1:30:40Doesn't bother me. It's all good either way.
- 1:30:42I'm just throwing things out and see and
- 1:30:44what sticks.
- 1:30:45I know a big part of me implementing
- 1:30:47this was that I'd be able to travel
- 1:30:49and go to these different places I wanna
- 1:30:51go with my wife and then just have
- 1:30:52a meet up, and then it's all business
- 1:30:54expense.
- 1:30:55It's how the big boys do it,
- 1:30:57and I just haven't been able to get
- 1:30:59there because of the 2 young kids. So
- 1:31:01maybe we dust it off again in a
- 1:31:02couple years. I don't know, but I'd like
- 1:31:04to see more people using it with tens
- 1:31:05of thousands of people listening.
- 1:31:07I thought there would be a better reception
- 1:31:09to this, but, hey, I'm not gonna push.
- 1:31:12It is what it is, but that is
- 1:31:14the show check out Laura books her website
- 1:31:17and the subs, she knows a lot about
- 1:31:19a lot.
- 1:31:20Take care of you in yours, mind your
- 1:31:22mental health because they're trying so hard to
- 1:31:24get you all worked up.
- 1:31:26And with that, I've done my part, your
- 1:31:28move, organic portal possess, human energy eaters and
- 1:31:31agents of the hyper dimensional control matrix.
- 1:31:35Your
- 1:31:36fucking move.
- 1:31:38No 1 knows but it's
- 1:31:41the bare.
- 1:31:45To be the sad man.
- 1:31:49Behind blue eyes.
- 1:31:53For no 1 knows what it's like.
- 1:31:56To be hated.
- 1:32:00To be faded.
- 1:32:03To telling only
- 1:32:06lives
- 1:32:08but my dreams
- 1:32:12art.
- 1:32:13Is empty.
- 1:32:15Has my conscience.
- 1:32:27Only
- 1:32:28lonely.
- 1:32:31Since they
- 1:32:32exposed me.
- 1:32:35On thc.
- 1:32:43No 1 knows. What it's like.
- 1:32:47Feel these feel.
- 1:32:51Like I do.
- 1:32:54And I blame you.
- 1:32:59No 1 bites back is hard.
- 1:33:02Hunter anger.
- 1:33:06Love my pain and world
- 1:33:09can go through
- 1:33:13but my dreams
- 1:33:17aren't
- 1:33:18sm empty.
- 1:33:21Has my conscience.
- 1:33:29I
- 1:33:33always
- 1:33:38me.
- 1:34:20Dreams.
- 1:34:23Content
- 1:34:25empty.
- 1:34:27Have my content.
- 1:34:39Oh wait.
- 1:34:40Lonely.
- 1:34:42Since
- 1:34:44exposed me
- 1:34:55No 1. No what it's like.
- 1:34:58To be the bad man.
- 1:35:02To be the sad.