Latest / The CFL Outsiders / “Shame on all of Us For Believing in You to Begin With"/The CFL Outsiders S03 E21
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- 0:37Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
- 0:42I remain, as always, your 100% unbiased,
- 0:47completely impartial, and well,
- 0:50re-enlightened host, old man shouting at clouds.
- 0:53Joining me this week is MJ2 in her best Arkells gear.
- 1:00Yeah, I feel bad about not picking the Ti cats,
- 1:03but not super bad about it. But yeah,
- 1:05Right.
- 1:05happy
- 1:05to be here again this week talking about football.
- 1:09And also with me MJ.
- 1:12Hey everyone, I was also going to wear my R Kell's Ty Cat shirt,
- 1:17but I am wearing Tyson Philpot jersey in honor of his big
- 1:19~ yes.
- 1:21weekend.
- 1:23Yes.
- 1:24Yes. But it funny you should mention that,
- 1:26'cause I wanted to start out the the show here with a with a short statement,
- 1:31which is basically I'm not worthy.
- 1:35I'm not worthy. MJ kicked my butt in the fantasies quarterfinals this week.
- 1:41Absolutely destroyed me, I think twenty points or so.
- 1:44And I
- 1:45Well, we
- 1:46you were ahead of me going into the last game.
- 1:48I was sweating bullets a little.
- 1:48Yes. Yes. So
- 1:51let me say this because I know I've been paying attention.
- 1:55I know why you've been doing so well all season on the fantasy.
- 1:59'Cause you understand football.
- 2:00You get what's going on, you understand what's gonna happen,
- 2:04what's best, and more importantly,
- 2:06you understand matchups. Who's gonna perform well against what team?
- 2:10And that's that's why you have had such an incredible season with it.
- 2:14But I think you and I both know
- 2:18There's one choice that gave you the victory this week.
- 2:20Would you like to say what that was?
- 2:23Yes. I took the discount,
- 2:23Thank you to Tyson Phil Pot for this victory.
- 2:26Philpot.
- 2:28Well my strategy I hope Adam from Countdown's not listening,
- 2:33but well he can look it up if he really wants to.
- 2:34But my strategy, I've noticed a pattern that running backs are tough sledin' lately,
- 2:39so I
- 2:39Yes.
- 2:40just cheap out on both my running backs now and go for the high flyer receivers
- 2:43and it paid off.
- 2:45Yes it
- 2:45did. That's that is smart stuff,
- 2:47yeah. It's ~ I've noticed that more and more.
- 2:51There's very little action out of the backfield for any running backs this year.
- 2:55There we're y a running back you get point I know we don't talk fantasy,
- 2:59but I'll say this anyway. With a receiver you get points for every reception
- 3:03and yards. With a running back you only get points for the yardage.
- 3:06So it kind of cuts in half what you're gonna get from a receiver.
- 3:09And frankly
- 3:12Unless they're getting some of those short outlet passes or getting touchdowns,
- 3:16you might as well go almost as cheap as you can and hope for any point.
- 3:20So very well played. Very well played.
- 3:23You get to carry the CFL outsiders torch on here.
- 3:26You've got Adam Stewart, CFC Adam from ~ yeah,
- 3:31from Canadian football countdown.
- 3:32I think I've beat him I
- 3:32So good luck with that.
- 3:33think I've beat him once already this year,
- 3:35but that was early in the season and he hadn't but he's on a tear lately,
- 3:39so hopefully I do us proud.
- 3:39He's doing well and I mentioned
- 3:42in my email to you he's the one that took the ~ final from me last year.
- 3:46So go get him. bring home the final this year.
- 3:46Mm. Come on, Tyson Philpot.
- 3:49Yeah, yes.
- 3:51Mm.
- 3:52Okay. And and I also want to say before we get too far into this,
- 3:57we got a lot of news to talk about tonight,
- 3:59so I'm not I'm trying not to ramble too much.
- 4:01But I want to do something that's ~ halfway between a rant and a Mia Culpa,
- 4:06I think.
- 4:07I wanna say to folks It's was a humbling experience on the last couple
- 4:12of weekends for me and it finally hit home.
- 4:14But more than humbled or much more than humbled,
- 4:18I'm just frankly pissed off at myself.
- 4:20Because I've spent the last three or four weeks being an idiot,
- 4:24rationalizing rather than looking at the evidence that was out there saying,
- 4:28Well, yeah, okay, so things like BC's on a tear,
- 4:30yeah, but I can explain this game and this game and No,
- 4:33I can't.
- 4:34No, I can't. I was just being stupid and seeing what I wanted to see.
- 4:38I know better than that. I shouldn't be doing that.
- 4:42So the scales have been lifted from mine eyes.
- 4:45Well hopefully we'll get a a a much more rational set of ~ interpretations from
- 4:51me tonight. So there's my apologies to everybody that I've that I've clung
- 4:55to my ~ my misconceptions as long as I have.
- 4:59whoops, and here's my little puppy coming to
- 5:02Say hello. She's all alone with me again tonight.
- 5:04Okay, the first thing I had here was we now know where the two Eastern
- 5:09and playoff games are gonna be played.
- 5:10They're the final in Montreal,
- 5:13semifinal in Toronto, we just need to know who gets the crossover.
- 5:16It won't be either Hamilton or Ottawa.
- 5:19So we've got that. But
- 5:22The West is wide open. So I kinda wanted to do this.
- 5:27I'd like I'll throw out as succinctly and not try not to be confusing about
- 5:31how much what who needs what and stuff.
- 5:33I'll I'll try to make it as as quick as I can.
- 5:35And then I'd like us to vote on what the final schedule in the West is gonna be.
- 5:41Or the final standings.
- 5:43Are you going to be
- 5:43Okay?
- 5:44unbiased on this?
- 5:46Well we'll see. We'll
- 5:48we'll see. So
- 5:49We
- 5:49got no we got no skin in this game.
- 5:51Yeah, exactly. This
- 5:53makes it easier for you. So, first of all,
- 5:55Edmonton. Edmonton they need two games with BC,
- 6:00so either two Edmonton wins, two BC losses,
- 6:03or a combination. That gets them the first place over BC.
- 6:07If they get one more win, they've locked in over Saskatchewan.
- 6:13And frankly, nobody else can get first.
- 6:16So that is where Edmonton sits.
- 6:18BC is in a pretty good place. If they win out and Edmonton loses one,
- 6:24they get first place. If there's any combination of two Saskatchewan losses
- 6:30and BC wins, BC gets first place.
- 6:32And otherwise there's a bunch of stuff for second,
- 6:35but I'm not going to go into that.
- 6:37Saskatchewan, if they win out and the Elks lose out,
- 6:42and the Lions lose out,
- 6:45can get first place. But it's a bit of a long shot.
- 6:49Calgary second is the best they can get.
- 6:51If they win out and the Lions lose out and Saskatchewan loses one more,
- 6:57Calgary gets second place. And Winnipeg could get second if they win out,
- 7:02if the Lions lose out.
- 7:03If Saskatchewan loses two and Calgary loses out.
- 7:06So it's a bit of a stretch there.
- 7:08So, first place,
- 7:12who's gonna be first in the West?
- 7:13Who Well we can do it by votes if you want.
- 7:16I I will start saying that it to me I don't think the elks stumble enough,
- 7:21so I think they get first. But this'll be majority rules here,
- 7:25so
- 7:26Elks or or lions, but I I don't know,
- 7:29I really want it to be the elks.
- 7:31Like what a season. So
- 7:33Well, I got an email from the Elks today about buying playoff tickets.
- 7:37They're feeling very
- 7:38Well, they're in the playoffs,
- 7:39we know that.
- 7:40optimistic about a home playoff game.
- 7:44I think that they will probably win,
- 7:45but I think BC's gonna make it down to the wire.
- 7:49Okay, so we're saying Elks in first.
- 7:51So then
- 7:53Yeah.
- 7:53second.
- 7:54PC.
- 7:55And yeah, I think that's that's pretty solid.
- 7:57Third.
- 7:59What were the scenarios
- 7:59Want me to go first?
- 8:00for Calgary to be third instead of crossing over?
- 8:04Calgary is pretty solid for third.
- 8:08Vernon's did not bad against Ottawa in Calgary,
- 8:11and then he's been pretty spectac spectacular the last two games.
- 8:15They've only got two games left.
- 8:17They can't get first, so they have to play four games to win the Great Cup.
- 8:20But Vernon's staying hot for four games?
- 8:22Entirely possible.
- 8:25'Cause they're sitting in the crossover spot right now,
- 8:27Yeah. Yes. No yeah,
- 8:28correct? Yeah.
- 8:29but only because Saskatchewan has one more one less game played.
- 8:34Calgary's
- 8:34Hmm.
- 8:35eight and eight, Saskatchewan is eight and seven.
- 8:37I think Calgary takes third and then Saskatchewan crosses over.
- 8:42Who would have predicted
- 8:42What do you think, MJ?
- 8:43that? Well, I had Calgary sitting in the crossover spot with Saskatchewan being
- 8:48third, but my aunt and I had a text convo about this today because we were trying
- 8:53to figure it out. but if the based on this weekend's games,
- 8:57I think Calgary's gonna be third.
- 9:00Yep,
- 9:00and I have to agree with you on on what we're seeing out there.
- 9:04So then that takes us down to fourth place.
- 9:07Saskatchewan is eight and seven.
- 9:09Winnipeg is where is Winnipeg now?
- 9:12Winnipeg is seven and nine. So basically if Saskatchewan wins
- 9:19two more games, they're locked in.
- 9:21If they lose out and Winnipeg wins out,
- 9:24then Winnipeg gets fourth. So who do you see in fourth?
- 9:27I don't see Winnipeg winning this weekend and I don't see them really turning
- 9:34anything on. So I I'm gonna stick with Saskatchewan for four.
- 9:39Yeah.
- 9:39MJ. Same.
- 9:40yeah, I think I think bombers are out and Saskatchewan's crossing over.
- 9:44So there's our official standing predictions.
- 9:46Edmonton, BC, Calgary, Saskatchewan,
- 9:50and Winnipeg. And I will say this if Winnipeg
- 9:54and Saskatchewan if those two teams don't play better than they have the last
- 10:00two or three weeks, it won't matter if they're crossover or not.
- 10:03They won't get beyond the first round.
- 10:05it is really disappointing to see the way that they have slid and w
- 10:08We'll maybe talk about that more in the games,
- 10:10but yeah.
- 10:11Yeah, you gotta play Toronto in Toronto.
- 10:14Right.
- 10:16Not easy.
- 10:17Yeah. I agree.
- 10:20Now, I think frankly, any of the teams in the West,
- 10:25if they get hot and start playing well,
- 10:28can win that game. Whoever ends up in the crossover,
- 10:31whether it's we basically know that it won't pretty much won't be Edmonton,
- 10:36and it's not likely to BC, but even whether it's BC down through the other three.
- 10:41They could do it, but it won't won't be easy the way Toronto is playing.
- 10:45And unless they get better the bottom two,
- 10:48unless they get playing better,
- 10:49they're not playoff worthy teams right now.
- 10:51My opinion. I know my fellow Saskatchewans fans will probably be upset with me,
- 10:57but like I said, I'm seeing more reality now.
- 11:00So
- 11:02Meanwhile, I was just saying to MJ this weekend,
- 11:04I like, I really want the riders to do better and so I'm like on this riders kick
- 11:10right now and I'm really like hoping for them and then like I yeah,
- 11:14Yeah. Yeah, no, it's
- 11:15never mind. I'm off I'm
- 11:18that's over.
- 11:18You also
- 11:19told me you were cheering for the Stampiers,
- 11:21so
- 11:22Yeah, well,
- 11:22~ I mean, cheering for and hoping for are different things,
- 11:26right?
- 11:27That's true. That's
- 11:27And I understand
- 11:27true.
- 11:28that. I do.
- 11:32Yeah.
- 11:33Okay. All right. So that that tells folks we'll come back in another three weeks.
- 11:38Realize six more weeks. Grey cup is over y after six more weeks.
- 11:44We have six of these to do. So yeah.
- 11:47But folks will know so they'll now in two weeks they can come back
- 11:51and throw bricks or bouquets if they want.
- 11:54Moving on. Other bits of news.
- 11:56The R Ottawa Red Black are now now have the record for most losses
- 12:02to start a season, pushing the legendary Shreveport Pirates out of their spot
- 12:09in the record book at fifteen and ~ Anything to say about
- 12:13I
- 12:14this?
- 12:15I just think it's gonna be really hard for Ottawa to show up the next few games.
- 12:21but I guess maybe you're playing because you want either to stay or
- 12:26you want someone to pick you up for next year.
- 12:29But I think as a coach or even as a leader on the team,
- 12:33you would have a really hard time,
- 12:34I think, finishing out the season well.
- 12:38I don't know how you jump in and play well,
- 12:43but I hope they've got great leadership in that locker room that you know,
- 12:48they have some pride in how they play,
- 12:50Yeah. Well they have
- 12:50I guess. I don't know.
- 12:53they have B C this week. Is it Toronto next week,
- 12:56I think, and then finishing against Hamilton?
- 12:58I believe that might be it, but I don't know.
- 13:00Yeah.
- 13:01So they've got a chance the last game,
- 13:03but I don't see them winning
- 13:04had their
- 13:05chances earlier. There was that game in Winnipeg where they dropped like five
- 13:09interceptions. That
- 13:11Yes.
- 13:11they should have won that game.
- 13:12They should have won that game in Calgary.
- 13:14Yeah.
- 13:15That was so I mean they've had
- 13:16Mm-hmm.
- 13:17their opportunities and now you're so discombobulated.
- 13:21Everyone is getting really defeated and most of the teams you're playing
- 13:25are playing for something that really is important.
- 13:27And they're not given anything anymore.
- 13:29So any little wiggle room you had is
- 13:32just like gone and honestly maybe they will go 0-18 and set like
- 13:36a fantastically awful record.
- 13:38Yeah, it's interesting, I've noticed on the the social media that I follow,
- 13:43the last two or three weeks there's been a real sort of turnaround
- 13:47in sentiment towards the Red Blacks.
- 13:49Going into that first game in Calgary,
- 13:52where they lost by the 62-yard field goal.
- 13:56Everybody was saying, Well, this could be the chance and I really want Ottawa
- 13:59to win. They deserve a win. They've been hanging in there,
- 14:02they've been doing it. They lost that one and they were and people were still well,
- 14:05okay, next week that gives them their chance.
- 14:07The last two games they played,
- 14:09I've seen a lot more people that have lost that sympathy for Ottawa now
- 14:13and are just saying, Nah, they should lose out.
- 14:16unless they do something to earn a victory,
- 14:18they haven't done anything to to justify a win yet.
- 14:22So
- 14:23Yeah, if
- 14:23they could put together a few quarters from like several games that they've played,
- 14:29that's a full game. But they haven't figured out this season how to play
- 14:33a full game. It's either they start well and disastrous finish or yeah,
- 14:38like you said, like you're dropping five you know
- 14:42whatever they've been doing, if they just couldn't put together a full complete game
- 14:46and even if you have a team, say like Edmonton that maybe gets close to the wire,
- 14:51maybe shouldn't have won, but like won somehow because they just again there's that
- 14:56team leadership. We're going to make this happen.
- 14:59They they just I guess at some point in the season you just don't have that anymore.
- 15:03So
- 15:05it's just it's really disappointing and I feel really bad for their fans.
- 15:07Yeah. I I do too.
- 15:08And this is why
- 15:10CFL, you need to get rid of your operations cap,
- 15:13because this
- 15:14Yes.
- 15:14is the result of that, direct result.
- 15:17yeah. They've
- 15:18they've gotten rid of anybody they could scapegoat on it.
- 15:21And we'll talk about that in a little bit,
- 15:23'cause there's another news item to to to to get to that i in.
- 15:27But but no, I agree with you. And I just like I said,
- 15:29I found it interesting that ~ just the change in sympathies that seems
- 15:33to be out there.
- 15:33Well,
- 15:34like kind of like shame on all of us for believing in you.
- 15:36Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
- 15:37Yeah.
- 15:38Yeah.
- 15:38that's
- 15:38that explains it. That
- 15:40Yeah.
- 15:41might also be our title this week.
- 15:43I like
- 15:44Yeah.
- 15:44that. Okay. I wanted to mention folks who've if you're new to the show,
- 15:51you don't know who GT is. GT was the other person on this show for a year
- 15:56and a half who had to step away,
- 15:57unfortunately. But one of the things he did at the start of the season
- 16:01was he took four of the jerseys from his personal collection.
- 16:05and decided to basically sell them for CFL fans fight cancer.
- 16:09So all the proceeds going to it.
- 16:11he's a Calgary fan, but none of these are Calgary jerseys.
- 16:15There's a Toronto one with Carrie Joseph,
- 16:19a Saskatchewan one with Michael Bishop,
- 16:21a Winnipeg one that's blank, and a BC one with G Roy Simon on it.
- 16:25So what he said is I'm gonna take the total scores between Calgary
- 16:29and those teams this year and
- 16:31If anybody wants to buy these
- 16:34Authentic and I guess ~ I don't know if retro jerseys,
- 16:38whatever he's had them for a while now.
- 16:40You can pick them up for the cost of that.
- 16:43In the case of this last game here against Saskatchewan,
- 16:47Calgary won, and the total points between the two of them this year was $144.
- 16:51So you can get from GT a Michael Bishop Saskatchewan jersey.
- 16:58Anybody in your life that's a Saskatchewan fan,
- 17:00Michael Bishop fan, make a great Christmas present,
- 17:03great birthday present kind of thing.
- 17:05And the best part is he's doing this to raise money for CFL fans fight cancer.
- 17:09So if you're interested, drop a comment here,
- 17:12drop a comment on any of the social media where we are out there or DM me
- 17:17on on the CFL outsiders in again,
- 17:20most social medias. We'll put you in touch with GT,
- 17:23work out the ~ the details on it from there.
- 17:28Okay. And thank you again, GT,
- 17:30for doing that. I hope you're doing well.
- 17:33Okay.
- 17:34Last year MJ and I had a bidding war over the KC Printers Ty Cat jersey
- 17:40and we've decided to share custody of it.
- 17:42So yeah, but
- 17:43Yeah.
- 17:43great cause. Happy to have bit been in that bidding war for for that.
- 17:48Yes.
- 17:48wore it to a g the last Elks game I did and went to
- 17:51Yeah.
- 17:52and a man commented on it. He's like,
- 17:53Casey Printer. So I was like, Yes.
- 17:57Nice to have that, isn't it? Yes.
- 17:59Yeah. I'll tell a tale out of school here in that ~ GT's very good about this with
- 18:04selling off his memorabilia to ~ to support CFL fans fight cancer.
- 18:09And last year there was going to be a signed rider football on auction,
- 18:15but I put in a high enough bid that he said okay So it is now sitting
- 18:20in with my rider memorabilia.
- 18:23Perks of the trade.
- 18:23Fantastic.
- 18:24Yeah. Yep. Hey and C F L fans fight cancer got a nice little chunk of money,
- 18:29so everybody's
- 18:29Yes.
- 18:30good.
- 18:31Next thing Bo Leva Mitchell's told us this week he's gonna be back next year.
- 18:38He told us that the week before in a DZON paid ad.
- 18:42I know, but
- 18:43this this is official now apparently.
- 18:45I was looking for like party hats and noisemakers from the two of you on this one.
- 18:50talked about this.
- 18:50Well
- 18:51and and we talked about this this weekend.
- 18:53~ MJ and I got to spend time in person this weekend,
- 18:56which is which was really fun.
- 18:58And so of course we talked football and part of it was seeing like that optimistic
- 19:03hope of Bo is back. But Bo Bo is back and ~ when's
- 19:09Bo been healthy for a full season and who's behind Bo and and so I'm very happy that
- 19:16Bo is back.
- 19:17And then yeah. Yes, there you have it.
- 19:17We are cautiously optimistic for the grey cup next year.
- 19:21Yes, as you should be. Yes.
- 19:24It's our year.
- 19:26Yes. Yes.
- 19:27Yes, it is our year. We
- 19:27Again.
- 19:30voted on this dream.
- 19:31We did
- 19:32Yeah. Yeah.
- 19:32vote on this stream. It's happening.
- 19:34Yes, yes. dear. Well, I gotta tell you,
- 19:37not e not necessarily as a riders fan,
- 19:39but just as a CFL fan. What I would love to see,
- 19:44my optimum type thing would be to see the Riders somehow come back
- 19:50and Harris get a repeat so he goes out on two Grey Cups and then have
- 19:56Bo come back next year and go on a bit of a tear and
- 19:59And b see what he can do if he can maybe finish off his career with a couple
- 20:04of gray cups as well. But
- 20:05I would love that.
- 20:06I know that doesn't say great things for Cody who deserves a Grey Cup
- 20:09and the rest of it. And it probably won't happen with Saskatchewan,
- 20:11Cody has a Grey Cup recently. The Tiger Cats do not.
- 20:12but well, he's got a Grey Cup,
- 20:14but I'm just saying it's you know No,
- 20:17If he wants to win a Grey Cup,
- 20:17Yeah, if anyone could use a cup.
- 20:18I know. No. No,
- 20:19maybe Cody should come to Hamilton.
- 20:19~
- 20:21but if the yeah, maybe. But yeah,
- 20:23there
- 20:23we go. But if yeah, if there's a quarterback that deserves it,
- 20:26I think it's Cody. But I anyway.
- 20:28'Cause that's what I was talking about,
- 20:29Debate debatable.
- 20:29was just the
- 20:30the QBs here. Yeah.
- 20:32But yes, welcome back
- 20:33next year, Bo.
- 20:34Welcome back.
- 20:35yes. Ugh Yes.
- 20:36Kenny Lawler will be so happy.
- 20:38~ yes.
- 20:39Balls that come somewhere near him within the catch radius.
- 20:43What a treat what a treat.
- 20:43It'll be
- 20:45what a novel experience. He may drop the first two or three just out of surprise.
- 20:49~ my god, it's right there.
- 20:50And I wouldn't blame
- 20:51Yeah. Just do it in preseason,
- 20:52Alrighty. Yeah. Yeah,
- 20:53not regular, thank you.
- 20:55yeah.
- 20:57yeah. Well I'm guessing that
- 21:01Unless he wants to shake off some rust after the season away.
- 21:04We'll see him for maybe two series in the preseason next year,
- 21:08if that.
- 21:09So yeah.
- 21:10Four passes, two to Kenny, two to Keandre.
- 21:12They both drop them. Yeah. And then they
- 21:15Fine.
- 21:15get into the real season and everything's good.
- 21:18Yes.
- 21:18Yes Ice in the veins.
- 21:19What does he do? Ice in the vein.
- 21:21Yeah, exactly. Took me the longest time to figure out what the heck that was.
- 21:22~
- 21:26I gotta admit, I was what, you're shooting up?
- 21:27You d
- 21:28I missed his like on-field little antics.
- 21:30Yeah. Yeah.
- 21:31I know. Yeah, me too.
- 21:31He is a character
- 21:33and I love it.
- 21:35Yeah.
- 21:35he is. He's great for the game,
- 21:37he's great for the league. ~ it's just fun.
- 21:39Another quarterback who didn't play this weekend was Mr.
- 21:43Kelly out of Toronto. They held him back with a throwing in an injury
- 21:47to his throwing hand, which apparently he hit a couple of helmets on.
- 21:51So that in itself, you know, hopefully he'll be back.
- 21:54If he's not, they they may have some problems.
- 21:56it was interesting to see what Arbuckle did w against BC and almost had that
- 22:01a tie game. But
- 22:03The other side of Kelly's injury was the fact that he was listed
- 22:07as did not participate and then limited on two days of practice.
- 22:11And the bit of the kerfuffle out there is the fact that the day before the game,
- 22:15Toronto coach gets on with TSN and says,
- 22:19I fully expect him to play. And then the next day he's not on the depth chart.
- 22:25And lots of people, especially those who gamble in this league,
- 22:29are really upset about that.
- 22:31Because apparently it was a four point swing once they announced that
- 22:36he wasn't on the depth chart. Does it matter?
- 22:38Mike Miller.
- 22:38Is
- 22:39it anything we should be worried about?
- 22:41Taken notes from O'Shea on how to
- 22:43Yeah.
- 22:44Yeah.
- 22:45but
- 22:45I don't know, I mean betting aside,
- 22:47yes, huge, but also if you're a defensive coordinator,
- 22:51that makes a huge difference who you're playing against.
- 22:54I mean you should be ready for both,
- 22:56but that that created a lot more work and does create a lot more work
- 23:00for those teams in ~ that d defense.
- 23:04Yeah, a competitive advantage.
- 23:04yeah, if this was the NF if
- 23:06if this was the NFL,
- 23:07Yeah.
- 23:07he would have been fined for that.
- 23:09Yeah. Yeah. And
- 23:09And you know what
- 23:11O'Shea'd probably be fined every week for this,
- 23:13but definitely he would have been fined because they they take those very seriously.
- 23:18And if I can't believe I have to say this,
- 23:21if the CFL wants to court more gambling,
- 23:24they're
- 23:24Yeah.
- 23:25going to have to tighten up rules about depth charts and injury reports.
- 23:30I I agree.
- 23:30It's not the Wild
- 23:31West. You gotta you have to have parameters if you want gamblers to keep gambling
- 23:36on your your league.
- 23:39yeah.
- 23:39This has
- 23:39been an issue for like a couple of seasons now of of coaches choosing
- 23:44~
- 23:44their words carefully and when to say them because because I think there
- 23:48are no rules, so you do or if there are,
- 23:51whatever, like you're playing with fire close enough that ~ yeah.
- 23:55Yeah, it's all the game within the game,
- 23:57right? Like
- 23:58And and again, like if it's not in the rule book
- 24:02Like yeah, it i it's frustrating,
- 24:04but I guess CFL, add that to your rules for next year.
- 24:08Yep.
- 24:09No no onside punts. No take all all all
- 24:12Yeah.
- 24:13the fun out out of the game with it.
- 24:14Yeah. I Yeah. I understand why the people
- 24:15No celebrations. But
- 24:20who gamble are complaining. I really do.
- 24:23On the other hand, if you're decide you want to just take a lighter
- 24:29to your money and burn a bunch up gambling
- 24:32I don't know that you should complain that much 'cause ~ this rule didn't
- 24:35go that way or this th you know,
- 24:37it's ~ at your
- 24:38Like at your own at your own risk.
- 24:41own peril, yes.
- 24:42Yeah.
- 24:42And
- 24:43I think I'd just be more frustrated like yeah,
- 24:46gamblers but but
- 24:47Yeah, I'd be I w if I was the other
- 24:48team I'd be more f I'm actually more upset that the other team wasn't able
- 24:51to prepare properly than than anyone who's gambling their money away.
- 24:57Yes. Okay, enough about Mr. Kelly.
- 25:00Quebec City expansion is all over the news now.
- 25:05Because the ~ potential owner,
- 25:08Trudell is it? I can't can't remember for sure.
- 25:11Has said the CFL has assured him that if they get the team together
- 25:15and a stadium built, they'll get two Grey Cups in their first ten years.
- 25:18Which is reasonably good news.
- 25:21The mayor of Quebec City has come out and said he's as supportive of a new stadium.
- 25:27And would be willing to get involved if there's provincial
- 25:31and federal money involved. And the Parti Quebecis,
- 25:35who won a minority government last night,
- 25:37said on the campaign trail they were in favor of putting money into
- 25:41a stadium in Quebec City to get the CFL there.
- 25:44So having a separatist party in
- 25:45So all staff in
- 25:46charge is maybe not the best for Canada,
- 25:49but for the CFL this could be okay.
- 25:51What do you think? Are we gonna see them?
- 25:53They gotta get that they gotta get that motion passed in a minority
- 25:54Yeah.
- 25:56government. So you gotta so that takes a lot of work.
- 25:59You gotta get your whip out there and you gotta like round people up and
- 26:03so that's a tough sell. See how much the provincial government's interested
- 26:08in spending. But ~
- 26:09Yes. Well another
- 26:11owner of the Aloet used to be part of the party Quebec so that might help.
- 26:14Yes. Yeah. Wasn't he the president at one point or something,
- 26:17Yes, I or like he I think he was the leader or something,
- 26:18I think, yeah. Yeah, something
- 26:21anyway.
- 26:21I'd
- 26:22Does I can't keep up with where's Chantaly Bear?
- 26:24She would tell us. Chantal
- 26:25Yeah.
- 26:25Yes. Yeah, exactly. But I didn't invite her this week,
- 26:29so
- 26:31Yes. Now I will say one other thing on the PQ victory.
- 26:34I don't know if this influences it at all,
- 26:36but apparently they didn't land a seat in either Quebec City or Laval.
- 26:40So
- 26:41But you don't have
- 26:41Yeah.
- 26:42someone campaigning for your team,
- 26:45then hmm.
- 26:45Yeah,
- 26:45okay. So I'm gonna ask you just
- 26:46Yeah, so
- 26:48you can go into more detail if you want,
- 26:49but just if nothing else down and dirty,
- 26:51what are the chances we see the a CFL team in Quebec City in the next three years?
- 26:58By twenty twenty nine?
- 26:593? No.
- 27:02Maybe in the early twenty thirties.
- 27:03But if you want a team in three years,
- 27:06shovels need to be in the ground like today,
- 27:09I would think.
- 27:09Pretty close to it, yeah.
- 27:12think
- 27:14I have a lot of hesitations because there are a lot of teams.
- 27:18Like I think of Calgary,
- 27:20they can't really work with the dinos to build a field because useport isn't
- 27:24changing their fields. And so goalposts you would have to have them removable
- 27:29in two spots. And so if you've got a team going into Quebec City,
- 27:32I feel like some of the only ways that you are going to make some
- 27:37of these things happen is maybe teaming up with a university like Laval.
- 27:41~ but I guess because that would get you more funding.
- 27:45But again,
- 27:45They gonna par there's a soccer team in Quebec City?
- 27:48Maybe there will be.
- 27:49No, I don't think so.
- 27:51no, this I think they're gonna have to team up.
- 27:53I mean, again the Halifax Wanderers out here making everyone look
- 27:56bad because they're privately funding their stadium.
- 27:58And then
- 27:58Yeah. Yeah.
- 27:59the CFL's like, I need funding from again,
- 28:03can we stop giving billionaires handouts?
- 28:05Like this is build your own stadium.
- 28:07Why do you need funding, billionaire people?
- 28:09I har hard hard to disagree with that,
- 28:11Like build your own stadium.
- 28:13yeah.
- 28:14Then you get
- 28:14Well
- 28:15to keep all the revenue. Like,
- 28:16why are you sharing? Anyway, it's a whole other story.
- 28:17Yeah. Well, and it's interesting
- 28:19when it comes to field ~ not field size but capacity as well,
- 28:23'cause in Halifax it would be a smaller number of seats.
- 28:28And like I know we talked about Kelowna if they were to,
- 28:31you know, build out that stadium,
- 28:33but it seemed in Quebec they're talking about building,
- 28:36you know, like
- 28:37Brand new.
- 28:38Yeah, twenty or thirty, however many people,
- 28:41thousand. Because is that why and again this is a sidebar,
- 28:44is that why Montreal has not hosted a Grey Cup in so long?
- 28:49Or is that just like they didn't put in a bid?
- 28:49They say so.
- 28:49Yeah. They said it's because
- 28:51they don't have the capacity, but I don't agree.
- 28:55we've argued about this on the podcast before,
- 28:57Yeah.
- 28:57because
- 28:57I think Montreal could host Grey Cup.
- 28:59They have to bid.
- 29:00Yeah, but they haven't bid so and and and people are
- 29:01Yeah.
- 29:03They don't make you just
- 29:03Yes.
- 29:04they don't force it on you anymore because I think Montreal would probably have
- 29:08to get McGill's permission
- 29:11for whatever reason they're not interested.
- 29:12So I'll just I'll throw in my percentage on this with it.
- 29:16I am cautiously optimistic because they can start without the stadium.
- 29:21They did say that they have an agreement with Laval that they could play at
- 29:25the ~ at the Laval Stadium for the first year or two.
- 29:29But I'd say forty three percent is what I'm gonna say.
- 29:33I'm not halfway there yet, but it
- 29:36There's enough happening I'm cautiously optimistic,
- 29:40yes.
- 29:40And the the two Grey Cups in ten years is not surprising because once Hamilton built
- 29:44their new stadium, they got two Grey Cups in like what,
- 29:46three years or something. So
- 29:47Yeah. Well
- 29:48But I think
- 29:48that's part of the perk of the bid too,
- 29:48exactly.
- 29:50is
- 29:51you're paying in that franchise fee.
- 29:53And so what are you getting in return for that?
- 29:56Like all and then that's also a selling feature if you are going to provincial,
- 30:01municipal, federal government saying,
- 30:04Hey, ~ if we do this, we've got these two huge events within 10 years that
- 30:08is going to bring X amount of dollars to this city
- 30:10Yeah. Mm-hmm.
- 30:13~ that wouldn't have been there.
- 30:14And so I think the CFL is smart to do that.
- 30:16because that is a selling feature that you could bring yeah to government
- 30:21to say hey like we are going to be bringing in certain amount of money
- 30:25so yeah I also cautiously optimistic I just think there's a lot of logistics
- 30:30to work out when it comes to fields sharing with a university but it would
- 30:36be so fun to have another team ~ out east
- 30:39Yeah.
- 30:39Can you imagine a
- 30:40great cup in Quebec City? I would go.
- 30:41Yeah. yeah. Yeah. Why would you not I mean yeah,
- 30:42I would go. That sounds amazing.
- 30:44Let's go. so much fun.
- 30:46it's one of the places that's on my bucket list anyway.
- 30:48I love
- 30:50I Quebec City
- 30:50Mm.
- 30:50is one of my favorite places I've been to in Canada.
- 30:53I loved it there. I would. my goodness.
- 30:54Haven't been there but want to see it.
- 30:55So so that would be fantastic.
- 30:56Amazing.
- 30:57And yeah, it makes
- 30:58perfect sense. A brand new stadium,
- 31:00why not put a couple of gray cups in there as long as they're three
- 31:02or four years apart? And I think it's fantastic.
- 31:06I will say this, I feel that this is closer to being real than
- 31:11the Atlantic schooners have at any point.
- 31:13yes. Yes.
- 31:13Yeah.
- 31:14hundred percent. They couldn't even
- 31:15decide on a city
- 31:17I was gonna say, for you you've got the board of governors,
- 31:20everyone voting yes, like if you can get all your ducks in a row,
- 31:24go for it. So it sounds like this majority owner is all for it and I don't know
- 31:31who the minority owners would be backing them up,
- 31:33but hopefully they can put together a good enough bid that
- 31:38other people wanna put up some money and it and it happens it would
- 31:42be really exciting for the league at a time when maybe they need some good news.
- 31:46~
- 31:46yeah, it
- 31:47w it would be fantastic. I'm just trying to think who if they did a full Labor Day,
- 31:53if you put Quebec City and it's Quebec and Montreal,
- 31:55so I guess that leaves somehow BC
- 31:55~ yeah.
- 31:56and Ottawa. well. We'll worry about that.
- 31:59Cross that bridge when it comes to it.
- 32:01Okay. I said when you showed off the Tyson jersey we'd be talking about that 'cause
- 32:06yeah, Tyson put on a clinic, didn't he?
- 32:09Beautiful.
- 32:09Yes, amazing.
- 32:12You wanna tell us about his records or should I?
- 32:15~ well, he f had three records.
- 32:18It was so it was the Alouette's eightieth
- 32:21Birth anniversary party, and they had a bunch of like former players there.
- 32:24And so Phil Putt broke the Canadian receiver ~ record with 119 catches
- 32:30in one season. He has broken the Canadian receiver record for a year.
- 32:35He's got seven 1,735 receiving yards.
- 32:39And he has the
- 32:40the Alouettes franchise record now as well,
- 32:42beating out Ben Cahun and Jamal Richardson.
- 32:44One cool.
- 32:45Richardson. But
- 32:46Yeah.
- 32:46they were both there, and if you
- 32:49Missed it friends, you need to go find the interview they did with Tyson after
- 32:53the game because Ben and Jamal were there on either side of him just pumping them
- 32:59up they
- 33:00were so happy for him and it just
- 33:03These this is the things about football I love.
- 33:05It was just such an incredible like cause you know sometimes when they have these
- 33:09big events, like the team kind of buckles under the pressure and they don't play
- 33:13as well. not this team. Not this
- 33:14Yeah, I'll d
- 33:15team. Just fantastic. I'm so happy,
- 33:17Yeah. Yeah.
- 33:18so happy for Philball.
- 33:19Like well deserved. He's worked so hard this year.
- 33:23Yeah,
- 33:23and stayed healthy. Yeah.
- 33:23It's amazing. Yeah,
- 33:25stayed healthy. Like and to see Ben Cahun there and like him and AC,
- 33:30what a pair. But just to
- 33:31What a pair.
- 33:32see the magic between Alexander and Phil Pot.
- 33:36Like that's something that you like,
- 33:38yeah, a once in a generation
- 33:40Generation. Yeah.
- 33:41Yeah, generational it is. It's
- 33:43it's been a good season and there've been a few games this l last one was
- 33:48was one of them. Just what are you gonna do to defend against that?
- 33:53you can
- 33:53triple team him if you want, but he's gonna grab that ball between like
- 33:57all those defenders and ro reel in fifty yards.
- 34:00Yeah.
- 34:00And Alexander's
- 34:01gonna know how he's going to move so he can put
- 34:03~
- 34:04it in that spot. Like the two of them have that connection.
- 34:05Yeah. Yeah.
- 34:06The two of them have such
- 34:07amazing c chemistry. This is
- 34:08Yeah. Yeah.
- 34:09like, you know, like yeah, AC and Cahoon or like a f McManus flutey kind of vibe
- 34:14Yeah.
- 34:15and it's just it's been fantastic to watch.
- 34:15Yeah. It
- 34:17is. I forget how many he ended up with passes.
- 34:19Do you have it there, MJ?
- 34:21yeah, he had let me find my game note.
- 34:23Not
- 34:25Mm-hmm.
- 34:26he had eleven eleven for fourteen for two hundred and seven yards.
- 34:31Yeah.
- 34:31And I was gonna say Yes. Seven yeah.
- 34:31Two hundred and seven. Just one.
- 34:33Two hundred and seven yards.
- 34:35Yeah, just just a stroll in the park,
- 34:36Just one receiver.
- 34:37yeah. And there were at least two of those that were deep passes that were
- 34:43not a bust in coverage and he's wide open.
- 34:46No, but contested.
- 34:47He was they could not have been covered
- 34:49any better. And yeah, he just no,
- 34:51I'll need that. Thank you. Amazing to watch.
- 34:54Amazing.
- 34:54He was not gonna mess up in front of Ben and Jamal,
- 34:55Yeah, yes.
- 34:57that's for sure.
- 34:59and no ra disrespect to Jalen earlier when I called him the discount Philpott He's
- 35:03very good too. He got a bunch of points for me on the weekend,
- 35:06but he wasn't where Tyson is, so
- 35:08Well, his re his quarterback has not been as healthy as Jalen's.
- 35:13Yes. Yes. And VA has been spreading the ball around a bit more than Mr.
- 35:14I've sort of Tyson's, yeah. Yeah,
- 35:18Calgary spreads the ball around.
- 35:18Alexander does. Yes.
- 35:20I mean what
- 35:21I mean Phil Pot has to like share with Sneed.
- 35:24Yeah.
- 35:24Yeah.
- 35:25Yeah. But that's it.
- 35:25Sneed had over
- 35:26a hundred yards that game too.
- 35:27Hundred snee Okay, but ca but Winnipeg did not play,
- 35:27Anyway, we'll get to that. No
- 35:30so
- 35:31Yeah, well
- 35:32th there is that. But basically they have three other receivers that
- 35:37are just out there distracting people.
- 35:40They occasionally throw a
- 35:41'Cause as soon as you know,
- 35:42as soon as you don't cover one of those,
- 35:44Alexander's gonna throw to them.
- 35:45Like Holland's will like all sudden score a touchdown on you or Ferdinand.
- 35:46yeah. yeah, he will. But
- 35:49Yeah.
- 35:50but it if he doesn't need them,
- 35:52we know who his first two are.
- 35:54And then I said three, four weeks ago when they signed Rowan Jones their draft
- 35:58choice. good, just what they need,
- 35:59another offensive weapon. And yeah.
- 36:02His first touchdown this weekend.
- 36:04Game time we can talk about it.
- 36:06But yeah, just just because they didn't have enough
- 36:09other people to not throw the ball to yet.
- 36:11They they need another one who can run
- 36:12Anyway,
- 36:13around out there. Run around r run around bumping into people and if
- 36:16you happen to throw the ball near him,
- 36:18he'll catch it.
- 36:19It's really nice to see a Canadian do well and it's really nice to see a U
- 36:23of C Dino do so well because
- 36:24Yeah.
- 36:25I I don't the Western teams like if when we come out of those universities
- 36:29you don't get a lot of street cred.
- 36:30so it was really nice to see somebody from that system and where he is
- 36:36now and just excelling and it's just it's been a pleasure to watch this year.
- 36:41Thank you, Tyson and Davis Alexander,
- 36:43for the entertainment this
- 36:44Yes.
- 36:44year. What else did I have here?
- 36:48~ the the CFL has announced a time change for the semifinal games.
- 36:52They were going to be at what was it that they were originally three
- 36:56and six thirty Eastern and they've been moved back to one o'clock
- 37:00and four thirty Eastern. apparently this is because with
- 37:03three weeks to go, the CFL realized,
- 37:05wait, that's Halloween. And maybe we shouldn't be trying to play a game when most
- 37:11people are wanting to take their kids out trick or treating.
- 37:13So so they
- 37:15Do you think I think that this is a PR stunt by them?
- 37:18I think they knew full well. I think they put those times them late
- 37:22on purpose so they can make a big scene like,
- 37:24look what we're doing for you guys.
- 37:25Everyone pay attention. We're moving Halloween games
- 37:28Yeah.
- 37:28up.
- 37:29if if they are, it's a pretty silly publicity stunt I I'm thinking I gotta
- 37:34get a little sign to hold up going snarky when I get like this 'cause I've just
- 37:38but really, that's how you you you want to attract people by going,
- 37:42~ we never thought of this?
- 37:44It's not like the
- 37:45Blue Jays were in the World Series and you're like,
- 37:47we've changed our game
- 37:47Yeah.
- 37:48time to accommodate the Blue Jays in the World Series.
- 37:50We didn't think that was gonna happen.
- 37:52Fair. But this you knew.
- 37:53Yeah, exactly.
- 37:54~ you know what? The NFL has the Super Bowl is on ~ Valentine's Day this year,
- 37:59so it could be worse, friends.
- 37:59okay. Yeah, I guess
- 38:02interesting thing, but Valentine's No,
- 38:02Halloween is not as big of a holiday as well well,
- 38:06maybe it depends on who you are.
- 38:07that that's true. And
- 38:07But yeah.
- 38:08yeah, if you got kids maybe, but yeah,
- 38:10no. No, I definitely agree. But yeah,
- 38:13~
- 38:13it's
- 38:14what i i it is just to me it's so foolish,
- 38:16like like you said, it's wait,
- 38:19Halloween's on the thirty first this year.
- 38:20We better change that.
- 38:24The spicier thing I think, not that it's not the Halloween thing,
- 38:27it's that okay, have you two seen that Great Cup All Year was advertises 4 p.m.
- 38:32mountain, 6 p.m. Eastern all year long?
- 38:36Now they've announced it is still 6 PM Eastern.
- 38:40They've moved the Great Cup back an hour in Alberta to 5 PM because we're
- 38:44not falling back anymore. And I was like,
- 38:47excuse me, why are you changing the hour and pushing Great Cup back an hour?
- 38:53Did you not anyway.
- 38:55It's not like it's that late in the east anyway.
- 38:55The the whole time change.
- 38:58I would rather this is my whole spiel about great up and I hate A,
- 39:01I don't like it on Sunday, please keep it on Saturday.
- 39:04B, why is it starting at 6 p.m.
- 39:07Eastern in November on a Sunday?
- 39:10Do you want would you rather sit in outside in Calgary like one o'clock
- 39:14in the afternoon when it might still be sunny out?
- 39:17Or do you want to sit at 5 p.m.
- 39:19when it's pitch dark out? And cold?
- 39:22I just I don't get it.
- 39:26I just like I've been to some Greek Cup games with family.
- 39:30I ~ Grey Cup parties with family where I No
- 39:32like have you? What what family?
- 39:34Give me names. You
- 39:35didn't invite me.
- 39:36Mm-hmm.
- 39:37No,
- 39:37but I've got family that lives,
- 39:39you know, in Red Deer, so to Calgary,
- 39:41not a long drive, but you watch the game,
- 39:43you know, you stay after, you chat,
- 39:45and then in November it's a snowstorm and suddenly you're driving on
- 39:49a highway and you don't know where the lines are.
- 39:51If it was a Saturday afternoon,
- 39:53I could have just stayed over I don't understand this need to have
- 39:57a Sunday night game. Like I get maybe part of it would be
- 40:01the festivities all weekend. So that is
- 40:04like the host city is doing all kinds of party stuff on Saturday.
- 40:08But I don't know for viewers. I I would rather it be anyway.
- 40:13Scheduled everything around the NFL,
- 40:14and that's why we don't have Thursday night games anymore.
- 40:16So why are you putting it on Sunday when it's like NFL?
- 40:20even if you're
- 40:20doing Sunday, unless things have changed,
- 40:22I haven't ri honestly haven't been paying attention to the NFL for three
- 40:25or four years now. But I believe they are still in the process where they will
- 40:29re shuffle the games around the game times on Sunday to get what they figure
- 40:33is the most exciting
- 40:34Yes.
- 40:34game Sunday night. So why
- 40:34Yeah. Yeah.
- 40:36go up against
- 40:36Yes.
- 40:37that instead of their afternoon slate?
- 40:41leave it at four
- 40:41Yeah.
- 40:42p.m. mountain. Or ~ what's the new what's the new time zone?
- 40:46Alberta time? Leave it at four
- 40:47Yeah.
- 40:48p.m. Alberta time, five p.m. Eastern.
- 40:51This is gonna mix me up for six months.
- 40:52Yes. I ~ Yes.
- 40:55I can't wait.
- 40:56Like I'm just gonna be s like I'm never gonna know what time things are starting at.
- 40:58Yes. Yes.
- 40:59We're all gonna
- 41:00print a map of Canada with the color coded time zone because I have no clue.
- 41:04Like yeah.
- 41:07Basically Manitoba West is n now so I mean Saskatchewan won't change will stay where
- 41:13they've always been where they don't change.
- 41:13Yeah.
- 41:14But everybody west of their the territories and everything is all I believe gone
- 41:18to one time for the year.
- 41:22Yeah. And I and that is why I thought they changed the times.
- 41:26But no.
- 41:27Probably yeah.
- 41:29Halloween.
- 41:30Halloween.
- 41:30Yes. Yeah,
- 41:31that makes some some sense too.
- 41:33Someone
- 41:34made a snarky comment that they were gonna show the Riders game as like their
- 41:37on the projector on their as like at the horror show on their projector
- 41:40on the out on their garage.
- 41:42That that would make sense. Yes.
- 41:45Okay. But
- 41:46Who
- 41:46we're not we're not diving into the negativity we had last week,
- 41:49so I'm calling an end to the snarky segment of the show.
- 41:51So funny.
- 41:54And moving on to positive stuff like the fact that Ryan Dinwiddy apologized
- 41:58to the Ottawa fans this week. Said he knows most of them probably want
- 42:02him gone and he's really sorry they haven't done better this year.
- 42:05Did it mean anything to you?
- 42:06his GM
- 42:07told him he needed to send that email.
- 42:09wait.
- 42:10Maybe Jim Pop told him he needed to.
- 42:11Yeah.
- 42:12Yeah, the GM. GM told head coach.
- 42:14Isn't he the GM, right? Like yes.
- 42:14Okay.
- 42:14Yes! Yes!
- 42:17Just like
- 42:18to yourself. Put a reminder in my phone.
- 42:20Yes. I don't want to you have to.
- 42:22I don't want to. You have to. Yeah.
- 42:23I should keep my job.
- 42:25Well and that was gonna be my question.
- 42:28And we can get to the apology,
- 42:29sorta s but I'm just curious if Ottawa has space to have a different GM,
- 42:36if they're keeping him as coach or if they have to keep him as both.
- 42:40I think
- 42:41they're still paying Bob Dice,
- 42:42aren't they?
- 42:43think so.
- 42:44~ right. Okay.
- 42:45And and apparently I never knew this,
- 42:46but apparently the teams do get a mulligan where they can write
- 42:50off one coaching staff, but they've already done that and two of
- 42:54the or whatever their maximum on mulligans is,
- 42:56apparently they've done that. I think they're still paying William Fields.
- 42:59They're still paying maybe Bob Dice,
- 43:01you know, it's it's a mess there.
- 43:04So unfortunate.
- 43:05feel like if
- 43:05your your head coach gets fired and then gets like a comparable ish job,
- 43:10that operations cap shouldn't count against you.
- 43:13Like Bob Dyce is the assistant head coach and special teams coordinator in Hamilton.
- 43:17Why are you having to have his salary against your books?
- 43:21there there should be better ways to do it.
- 43:23But my whole thing is I you apologize,
- 43:25great. I appreciate someone who's willing to step up and say I made a mistake,
- 43:30or several mistakes haven't done well.
- 43:32That's very good. Everybody deserves another chance.
- 43:35But if they're gonna give you another chance,
- 43:37what's the plan to not do the same thing next year?
- 43:42'Cause he never said any of that.
- 43:44You said, I'm really sorry, and we're gonna try harder.
- 43:47But that doesn't tell me anything.
- 43:50if you're genuinely sorry for f for where you're at and you feel it's
- 43:56bad and you are the the coach and the GM,
- 43:59to me, then you say that you say,
- 44:01This is yes, we apologize big time,
- 44:04and by the end of the season, we're gonna have a statement to the fans telling
- 44:08you why it should be different next year.
- 44:10what we're gonna do and put be brave enough to put it out there.
- 44:14Isn't that why they brought Jim Pop in?
- 44:16Like they needed someone with some winning experience to come in and figure out,
- 44:21well, what's going wrong? How do we how do we change this?
- 44:25Or or how do we make a plan, at least,
- 44:27even if we don't have the personnel to,
- 44:30execute that plan. But you're right,
- 44:32like, I don't know. The apology is sitting out there,
- 44:37but you're right, it doesn't have legs,
- 44:38so
- 44:40Doesn't mean anything. Yeah. Well,
- 44:40It feels a little too late, to be quite honest.
- 44:43there's that too, yeah. Mind you
- 44:43Yeah. This
- 44:45should have been like an O and ten apology.
- 44:48Yeah, but
- 44:48they hadn't set a record then.
- 44:49You know, you gotta acknowledge the record.
- 44:53Maybe they should give out the fans like branded paper bags for like
- 44:57as a giveaway or something.
- 44:58Yes. Well they
- 44:59did have shots in the game of somebody in a paper bag with a red black
- 45:04s logo stamped on it or printed on it.
- 45:06Yeah. They could just
- 45:07So
- 45:07There's been a few. Yes.
- 45:08do it. You might as well lean in,
- 45:09right? If you're just gonna be like
- 45:10Yeah.
- 45:11a train wreck, lean into it.
- 45:11Exactly. Yeah.
- 45:13Have fun
- 45:13Yeah.
- 45:14some have a little bit of joy and like a s laugh at yourself a little because what
- 45:18else is there? There's just tears.
- 45:20It's what it is,
- 45:20it's biz it's been a bizarre season.
- 45:23They spent a lot of money on free agents who they are no longer using by and large,
- 45:29or have released or what whatever.
- 45:32They didn't well, I guess you know,
- 45:34there was a limited ~ ability to go after a quarterback this year,
- 45:38but
- 45:40So my th conspiracy theory is like I know everyone's talking about Chad Kelly going
- 45:45there and everyone's talking about Chad Chad Chad.
- 45:48I think they undercut Chad and Nick is there next year.
- 45:51That's
- 45:52Yeah.
- 45:52~
- 45:52what I think
- 45:53might happen. I think Arbuckle might end up in Ottawa next year.
- 45:56Yeah. Is his
- 45:57I would love that.
- 45:57contract up though?
- 45:58'Cause that would right.
- 45:58If his if if his contract is up,
- 46:01but I think
- 46:01I think they just forget Kelly and the nonsense of that and just like bring
- 46:06if if they can, I think they bring our buckle.
- 46:07Where's GT? He would know. But yeah,
- 46:10I think that's my guess. 'Cause I don't see another quarterback moving.
- 46:12Yeah, exactly. No.
- 46:15I personally I I'm of the impression that they should have gone after rather than
- 46:21go after Mayer, who's a former starter who's become a backup and you could
- 46:25see what he could do. Th there are a few quarterbacks in this backup quarterbacks
- 46:30in this league that are that are intriguing.
- 46:33And you know,
- 46:34I love.
- 46:34yeah, I mean go for make a a bid on Trey Ford and try to go with him.
- 46:40Yes.
- 46:41If you think okay, he's not a quarterback make a bid on Taylor Powell rather than
- 46:45let the Elks pick him up as their backup.
- 46:47there were others out there that that were definite possibilities.
- 46:52There's also the the the issue of who wants to work with Ryan.
- 46:57Yeah, I suppose there's that too.
- 46:58But mind you, you had Crum and you decided I'm not gonna re sign him too,
- 47:02and I think he's better than either of the ones they have out there right now,
- 47:05so
- 47:06Well and this is I think sometimes the problem when you have a GM who
- 47:10is also a coach because you have this strong vision,
- 47:14but I don't know. I think that there's something really key maybe
- 47:18to having two different voices trying to come together to make that happen.
- 47:22like if you look at Calgary, right?
- 47:24Like Dave is GM and coach having some troubles.
- 47:27So and I know that this is typical like this has happened a lot in the C F L,
- 47:32but I don't know. I think if
- 47:33Once you've got that cap space for coaches and GM and front office,
- 47:37whatever, whatever, if you're Ottawa and you're the owner,
- 47:40are you like would you wanna step into a GM coach ~ same person again
- 47:47after this all went down?
- 47:50Yeah, and I mean, either way. I just for for excuse was as the GM and head coach.
- 47:56If you're a head coach you can say,
- 47:58Well the GM's not getting the players I can work with And if you're a
- 48:01Yeah.
- 48:01GM you can say, Well, I've got good players but the coach isn't getting anything
- 48:04with them. When you're both it's kinda hard to
- 48:07Yep. Yep.
- 48:09Alrighty. Well good luck with them next year.
- 48:12I I hope they're competitive. I really do.
- 48:16Regardless of who
- 48:16Yes.
- 48:17they come up with as a quarterback or what they where they go.
- 48:19I just I hope they can win close to five hundred next year,
- 48:23if they can get, you know, even if they
- 48:25You only
- 48:26you need to be the eighth team.
- 48:27You just need to not be the worst next year.
- 48:27Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
- 48:29Yeah.
- 48:31and
- 48:31if they get to even say what,
- 48:35six and twelve, seven and and eleven,
- 48:38that's probably enough to not be the the worst team in the league.
- 48:42'Cause if you're picking up those wins somebody else isn't
- 48:45All right. the Elk have bid for the twenty twenty eight Grey Cup.
- 48:49Excited, happy. Yeah.
- 48:50Keeping it out west.
- 48:52Yeah, for the fifth year in a row,
- 48:52The concrete castle of the north.
- 48:54isn't it? Yes.
- 48:55A natural for a grey cup. It's my it's a big stadium,
- 48:59I'll say that and
- 48:59Yeah.
- 49:00so they bid this year with Calgary and Calgary got it.
- 49:04Even though the CFL told Calgary they weren't allowed to have Grey
- 49:07Cup anymore because their stadium was too awful.
- 49:10And I don't know what Calgary's bid looked like in Edmonton's bid,
- 49:14but your bid was so bad that they gave it to the city that was like they you're like
- 49:18we're you're not allowed to have gray cups.
- 49:20we'll be see anyone else b bids on this year or not.
- 49:23But
- 49:24I
- 49:24Well, Concrete Castle of the North.
- 49:25Edmonton's a nice place. Yeah.
- 49:26I think
- 49:27I think they also have a little bit of better backing this time because they're
- 49:30like, look, our fans are here now again.
- 49:32Yeah. Yes. Yeah. People will come and
- 49:32I think that might have been part of the reason
- 49:32Yeah. Yep. Cute.
- 49:35why they didn't get it when Cal for twenty twenty seven 'cause they
- 49:38had like they're like, you're not gonna f sell out.
- 49:39Yeah. Yeah. A lot of football fans.
- 49:41A lot of football fans were very d
- 49:42Yeah. So hopefully that works
- 49:44out
- 49:44I see Elks flags in the city now again.
- 49:47~ businesses and like I haven't seen those in years.
- 49:52I'm seeing an awful lot of people that aren't ~ bothered about calling them
- 49:55the elks. I'm seeing a
- 49:57Well
- 49:57Yeah.
- 49:57lot less double e these days and a lot more elks.
- 50:01I'm not gonna get into it, but that is Anyway.
- 50:03come on. I'm baiting you and you don't even you won't go for it.
- 50:04No bec I mmm just go
- 50:07~
- 50:09to a game in Edmonton and report back to me about how that is going.
- 50:12Okay. There's still some of
- 50:13that, is there? Okay. Alrighty then.
- 50:15I hope they get
- 50:16their bid and it's a good a good event.
- 50:19Okay. attendance this week. Yes.
- 50:20I hope Bo Levi's there and I get to meet him.
- 50:22Yeah.
- 50:24Yeah. Bol Levi against Cody in Edmonton for the twenty twenty eight.
- 50:28~ that would be awesome. ~
- 50:28Mind you, that's two years ago yet.
- 50:30So yeah. We'll
- 50:32see. See if they're still both playing by that time.
- 50:35Maybe one of them wins a Grey cup between now and then.
- 50:36If Trevor can play when he's forty,
- 50:38Yeah. Yeah, I know.
- 50:38so can Bo. It'll be fine.
- 50:41I know. But I'm wondering with both of them,
- 50:43if they pick up another Grey Cup,
- 50:44they're
- 50:46They're along enough that they might think about it.
- 50:46Well, you're being very optimistic
- 50:48about the Ti- cats.
- 50:50Well, Bo could get one next year.
- 50:52You never know. They were they looked good when
- 50:52I like that. Yes.
- 50:54That's a nice book. Yes.
- 50:56he was in there, so yeah.
- 50:57They sure did. Yeah.
- 50:59So Cody wins this year, Bo wins next year,
- 51:01they both retire and somebody else plays in Edmonton in twenty twenty eight.
- 51:04Or not. I'm just I'm just reading
- 51:06It'd still be Hamilton that I would be fine with me.
- 51:09the chicken bones here. That's reading the entrals.
- 51:12Attendance this week. Topps was in Saskatchewan where it was not a sellout,
- 51:16unfortunately. ~ twenty nine thousand four hundred twelve
- 51:21And then it went down from there.
- 51:22Montreal did sell out with twenty-three.
- 51:24Ottawa had more than Toronto.
- 51:28Ottawa had sixteen and change.
- 51:30Toronto had thirteen just under fourteen thousand for an average
- 51:34of about twenty thousand four hundred and thirty two.
- 51:37So ~ not a great week. But so it goes.
- 51:42Some of these games we'll probably see a tendency start to drop off,
- 51:45especially in the East, as some of these games don't mean so much to the home teams.
- 51:50unless you've got any comments on that,
- 51:52I will go to our player transactions segment,
- 51:55'cause there's a few people released.
- 51:56Strangely enough, now that Josh Haggerty's two game suspension is up in BC,
- 52:02they have rethought and decided he's not a BC Lions player that
- 52:08he doesn't play with the B C Lion attitude and they have released him.
- 52:12I think I
- 52:13Get on the lines.
- 52:14think that's
- 52:14Yeah.
- 52:14a good thing. I'm a little disappointed it took a bunch of fans screaming before
- 52:19it happened, but I'm good glad to see that.
- 52:22They also
- 52:23I wonder
- 52:23if we were allowed to say anything while he was suspended.
- 52:26~ yeah.
- 52:26Yeah, they could they could have announced it.
- 52:27They might not have been.
- 52:28I mean if if you
- 52:30look at the ~ the comparable one,
- 52:33'cause I'm a riders fan, I know it,
- 52:34Ajou Ajou They it
- 52:36~ right. Yeah.
- 52:38was announced and the Riders before even the the league announced any action,
- 52:42the the Riders announced they he
- 52:43They have
- 52:44was they'd released him, they'd parted ways.
- 52:44Well, I'll give
- 52:46the lions the dent benefit but maybe they were doing some due diligence
- 52:49and talking to his like psychologists and like some other people
- 52:53and trying to figure out if this is like sometimes hasty decisions aren't always
- 52:57good either, so
- 52:59No that is
- 52:59true and I should not make assumptions.
- 53:01Entirely possible.
- 53:03I have the glasses on. So Yeah,
- 53:03Right thing was done in the end,
- 53:04Good on the line. Yes. Yeah.
- 53:04yeah. Nice
- 53:05in my opinion. So
- 53:07nice thing about me wearing my glasses is I can say things like that,
- 53:10roll my eyes, and you never even notice.
- 53:12Also released Lawrence Woods the third,
- 53:14who they'd picked up as a returner three or four games back.
- 53:17the Riders traded for Brett Louther.
- 53:19This is kind of old news now. It was last week.
- 53:21He didn't play this weekend. He only had one day to
- 53:24Yeah.
- 53:24Do any
- 53:25practice, but they Yeah,
- 53:25He probably should have played.
- 53:27probably should have. But he didn't.
- 53:29And they released Dawson Hodge.
- 53:31And and maybe he should have played,
- 53:33but they there was so much else worth wrong in that game.
- 53:37And frankly, do you want to put him in under low practice and have him miss
- 53:41two or three and have the fans go all over him?
- 53:43I'm
- 53:45That's true.
- 53:45As as
- 53:46they are t tend to do to kickers in Ryderville.
- 53:50Yeah.
- 53:51Yes. Yes, they've been knowing too.
- 53:53the Red Blacks released Benny Sap the third,
- 53:56who they picked up and had started for half a dozen games.
- 53:59~ Well, it's possible.
- 53:59Is this cause he took a run at the quarterback?
- 54:02Who knows?
- 54:04well, so there was a play, well,
- 54:05I'm we talked about the game, but there was a play where they had like gotten like
- 54:09a like a knockdown and then they look over and they're like,
- 54:12~ and Benny just like ran right at Frost and hit him in the face and I was like,
- 54:16yeah, that's why you are Ryan's Ryan's like got people's heads on chopping blocks.
- 54:21Do you think that's gonna like
- 54:21Yes. Yeah.
- 54:23I don't know what it takes to get you released from the red backs right now.
- 54:27I think I don't know.
- 54:28Maybe maybe maybe bringing the wrong coffee to to practice gets
- 54:33you released these days. It seems like there's an awful lot that can.
- 54:36There's there's they used to joke when Chris Jones was back in Saskatchewan
- 54:42and then Edmonton at the early days about what a revolving door that was.
- 54:45Him trying new players. Nothing like what we've seen in Ottawa.
- 54:49No, we're releasing the team this week.
- 54:51We have a new one. Same thing next week.
- 54:52Yeah. Yeah.
- 54:53basically. Like
- 54:54how are you ever gonna win a game when you have no continuity?
- 54:57Well, apparently you don't. Yeah.
- 55:01Apparently you don't.
- 55:03Turns out.
- 55:04how that works.
- 55:04Yeah. Yes. And the
- 55:08last one, not an ~ immediate move,
- 55:11but Rennie Paradis has announced he's done at the end of this season.
- 55:14He's retiring at the end of twenty twenty six.
- 55:15Well done, sir. Well done.
- 55:17How can he top his sixty two yard season saving field goal going out on a high note?
- 55:17So thank you, Rennie. And yeah.
- 55:19Yeah. Well Yes.
- 55:24Yeah, fifteen years with the stamps.
- 55:24No, you know it's Yeah. Yes.
- 55:26That's amazing.
- 55:26Fifteen.
- 55:28And he's what, he's forty
- 55:29or forty one, so he's he's not
- 55:33You know, he's not a a spring chicken.
- 55:35How many more years can he kick sixty two yard field goals?
- 55:39huh. Yeah.
- 55:41Maybe 'til he's fifty. I don't know.
- 55:42I didn't think he had that one in him.
- 55:43Can he please give
- 55:44send us your workout routine? I need to know.
- 55:46Yeah. ~ yeah. Yes
- 55:47Yes.
- 55:50w Okay. So that does take us to the games.
- 55:53First game. Hamilton thirty four at Ottawa sixteen.
- 55:59Now, this might be me doing a little bit of sticking a knife in,
- 56:04but there were three people on this panel,
- 56:08only one of which isn't a Hamilton fan and was the only one who picked them
- 56:12for this victory. yes,
- 56:16When the grapes are sour you just
- 56:16yes.
- 56:19gotta dump the bottle. But you know what?
- 56:21~ I'm happy for Hamilton, obviously.
- 56:23Yes. You proved me wrong.
- 56:25They just Yeah.
- 56:27They played better than Ottawa.
- 56:28They didn't play great.
- 56:29So nice for you to
- 56:30play well now that you're eliminated.
- 56:32Yeah. Well no,
- 56:33I wouldn't say they played well 'cause I thought both of those teams still made
- 56:37an awful lot of mistakes. But they played better than Ottawa did.
- 56:40Kenny Lawler played well.
- 56:42Yeah. He
- 56:42Yes, there were
- 56:43there were
- 56:43had a
- 56:44in these games there's always some players that do well.
- 56:47But there were also just mistakes and some bad luck.
- 56:52I mean Ottawa picked up an interception off of a helmet bounce.
- 56:57Yeah.
- 56:58Yeah. But also Ottawa sc
- 56:58But it still wasn't enough for them.
- 57:00scored no points in the second half.
- 57:02Like
- 57:03No. None.
- 57:04and and that's kind of the trend this week,
- 57:06but yeah, you're right. Like Hamilton
- 57:07It's an interesting strategy for victory.
- 57:10did just enough to win but they yeah.
- 57:14Like Round Tree had a pretty good game.
- 57:16Lawler had a good
- 57:17Yeah.
- 57:18game. that's those are my
- 57:21That's all you
- 57:21need. That's all you need to beat that other team.
- 57:24Yeah. Yeah. At least
- 57:26to meet Ottawa,
- 57:26Yeah.
- 57:26you that's all that you needed.
- 57:28Yes. Yes.
- 57:28Yeah.
- 57:28So well done defense.
- 57:30you held them when like the defense did the work when they needed them to.
- 57:34So
- 57:35It was
- 57:35sixteen thirteen, to be fair to Ottawa,
- 57:38it was sixteen thirteen till the end of the third.
- 57:40They hung on
- 57:40Yes. Isn't it?
- 57:41till the fourth, and then in the fourth they're they just fell apart.
- 57:46But they
- 57:46Yes.
- 57:46they were in it till like Yeah,
- 57:48but still. the Kenny Lawler's temper tantrum last week worked because
- 57:52he got the ball a lot this game.
- 57:54Yes.
- 57:54Yes.
- 57:55So what lesson have we learned that temper tantrums
- 57:58Yeah.
- 57:59work? Like
- 58:00Maybe that the maybe in the the next game too or no,
- 58:04Yeah.
- 58:05one of the the Saturday games,
- 58:06sorry. but yeah. And
- 58:07Yeah.
- 58:08and frankly, Ottawa kind of fell apart late in the game there,
- 58:11and they lost by eighteen points,
- 58:13it easily could have been twenty five points because when they were trying
- 58:16to move down under under three minutes to go,
- 58:19one of the best plays of the game was a
- 58:23errant pass by the Oda Ottawa quarterback that was heading straight
- 58:26to Winton McManus and somehow Keelan White slowed himself and up and
- 58:32and reached an arm back and broke that up for what should have been a pick six.
- 58:36So I maybe that was Ottawa's best play of the game,
- 58:39but it should still be acknowledged.
- 58:40~
- 58:40It was a very nice play by him.
- 58:43Best play of the game was their flea flicker and then throw to McDonald.
- 58:46That was fun.
- 58:47Yeah, okay. Yes,
- 58:47Yeah. Fun.
- 58:50yes. Yes, it was. No.
- 58:53And then they got a
- 58:53touchdown after that. They punched it in.
- 58:55So that was they got like you know,
- 58:57so when I see things like that,
- 58:58I'm like, ~ I get excited because I'm like,
- 59:00okay, they're gonna do something,
- 59:01and then they just can't sustain it.
- 59:04They had their third kicker this year,
- 59:06Gl Geelin. Geelin, he went three for four.
- 59:09Not bad for the first outing for kickers.
- 59:11And I Frost, I was like, remember about Frost,
- 59:15my dad was like, he looked pretty Frost looked pretty good.
- 59:17And I was like, fine, he did look pretty good.
- 59:20Yes, he did. He he looked competent.
- 59:20Yeah. He threw some
- 59:22He
- 59:22touchdowns. to be fair to my sister and I,
- 59:25we were at a hotel together and we were trying to watch this game.
- 59:28And
- 59:30our hotel TV had TSN 1, 2, and 3.
- 59:33the game was on TSN 5.
- 59:36Of course.
- 59:37Hi TSN.
- 59:38They had like
- 59:39plays of the week on TS11 or something.
- 59:42Like why is this happening?
- 59:42So we
- 59:44were watching it on a little phone screen.
- 59:47Yeah.
- 59:48Yeah.
- 59:49look, there's blobs running around down there somewhere.
- 59:51Yeah, yeah.
- 59:52Yeah. Mostly just listening to the game.
- 59:55Harrison Prost looked not
- 59:55Thanks, T.
- 59:56bad in that game. And he's been looking some somewhat better lately,
- 1:00:00but he's still a long way from looking like he's an answer for any team.
- 1:00:04I mean he'll if a team played him as a starting quarterback,
- 1:00:07you'd win some games. But unless you had a incredible cast around him,
- 1:00:14it wouldn't be many. And I think Hamilton sort of shows that this year.
- 1:00:18Hamilton's got one of the best defenses in the league.
- 1:00:20Hamilton's got a good
- 1:00:22Yes.
- 1:00:23O line. Hamilton's got fantastic receivers.
- 1:00:27And they've had pretty good special teams work this year.
- 1:00:30Their center
- 1:00:31is not snapping the ball wonky anymore.
- 1:00:34Yeah. Well maybe they'll go
- 1:00:35back to that 'cause I Szeman who has been playing center for them is
- 1:00:39was out again and he's I don't know,
- 1:00:41so it may be Dobson back in who likes to Yeah.
- 1:00:44He has a he has a he has a
- 1:00:44throw like this like it's an adventure.
- 1:00:47radius for his snaps. You know,
- 1:00:49it's there's this bucket if I get it somewhere
- 1:00:51portray.
- 1:00:52in this area here. Yeah, it's ~
- 1:00:54Poor Tre honestly.
- 1:00:59Yeah.
- 1:00:59well.
- 1:01:01I think that's all I've got to say there.
- 1:01:03No,
- 1:01:03that's that was it. That was it.
- 1:01:05Okay. Hey. Win number five
- 1:01:06But they won.
- 1:01:07win number five for Hamilton.
- 1:01:07They won!
- 1:01:09Yay.
- 1:01:10Yeah,
- 1:01:10and then the second game o of that Friday evening.
- 1:01:14Calgary went into Saskatchewan and won thirty seven thirty one.
- 1:01:18Sounds like a heck of a game. It wasn't.
- 1:01:21Saskatchewan put up three touchdowns in garbage time,
- 1:01:25I think in the last about five minutes of the game.
- 1:01:28I had it's like thirty-four to thirteen with four minutes left in
- 1:01:31the fourth for Calgary. Like Yeah.
- 1:01:31Yeah. Exactly. And I mean if anything,
- 1:01:35Saskatchewan shot themselves 'cause I mentioned before they're they don't seem
- 1:01:39to have the confidence now and they're getting desperate in what they do.
- 1:01:42And it showed up in this game.
- 1:01:43they had to get to within three points of Calgary to make it a tie
- 1:01:49in the season series. If they on those last last three touchdowns,
- 1:01:54if they'd kick three converts
- 1:01:57They would have been at that three point.
- 1:01:58And it would have had to go to something else.
- 1:02:01But they got panicky and tried to go for extra points and just didn't get it.
- 1:02:06Yeah, they the Calgary outplayed them on all three phases.
- 1:02:09Saskatchewan started with a nice stop on defense.
- 1:02:12I think they gave Calgary one first down and then got a good punt,
- 1:02:15but for some reason they had Quinley Connolly in there.
- 1:02:18Quinlan Connolly? I can't remember first name.
- 1:02:21Anyway. I'm told he's never returned punts before and
- 1:02:25He muffed it, gave the ball back to Calgary,
- 1:02:27which they took in for a touchdown,
- 1:02:29and the the game was largely over there.
- 1:02:31But you had
- 1:02:31I'm sorry,
- 1:02:32never returned punts be surely there was one other person on that roster that
- 1:02:37had done punt returns or something in college.
- 1:02:39You mean like Daniel Weeb, who did it for them earlier in the year
- 1:02:42and did pretty damn good?
- 1:02:44Yeah. Who's your special teams coordinator?
- 1:02:47And so you do that? You have a you miss two field goals.
- 1:02:50So your special teams aren't doing much for you at all.
- 1:02:54They did at least they held McAllister in in check fairly well on their coverage,
- 1:02:58but that was it. Your defense is letting
- 1:03:00Running game.
- 1:03:01Yeah.
- 1:03:02It was bad running game for both teams.
- 1:03:04Both teams no there was no runs happening.
- 1:03:04Like, yeah.
- 1:03:04it was which is Yeah.
- 1:03:06No.
- 1:03:06Yeah.
- 1:03:07Which is not necessarily surprising given the defenses that you're looking at there.
- 1:03:12But on the defense for again, Calgary played good and solid.
- 1:03:16It wasn't spectacular, but it was a good solid game.
- 1:03:19Only gave up points once it was obvious they could.
- 1:03:22And Saskatchewan
- 1:03:23got busted in coverage. Bell gave the rookie at the the cornerback gave
- 1:03:28up another deep pass, got beat on it,
- 1:03:30And the offense, I'm I'm gonna go out here with some wild ass speculation 'cause
- 1:03:36I haven't heard anybody say this yet now,
- 1:03:37but like I said, I'm trying to to pay more attention to what I'm actually seeing.
- 1:03:41And I'm not saying this is an excuse,
- 1:03:43it's just as in a question. I'm wondering if there's something going
- 1:03:46on with Harris's throwing arm or shoulder.
- 1:03:50Because yeah, he's throwing the outs and like a a wide side out is
- 1:03:54a forty yard pass. But I haven't seen tell me if I'm wrong,
- 1:03:58if you guys remember, I it's in at least three games that I haven't
- 1:04:01s don't recall seeing a pass downfield more than twenty five,
- 1:04:05thirty yards at the maximum. So is it that teams know he just can't load
- 1:04:10it up and go deep 'cause they defenses do seem to be playing really tight
- 1:04:14on the Saskatchewan receivers.
- 1:04:17in their defense, some of their top receivers who are usually good
- 1:04:21for those long catches have been injured or are back from injury.
- 1:04:24Yeah.
- 1:04:26And I know Schaefer Baker like had a good game,
- 1:04:29but like I don't know if if you've got a quarterback who maybe isn't certain that
- 1:04:36his his guys are gonna catch for him down
- 1:04:40if you're the offensive coordinator,
- 1:04:41are you going to run that play if you're not entirely certain like you said,
- 1:04:46like if maybe Harris's arm isn't great,
- 1:04:49but you also have these banged up receivers who
- 1:04:51Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:04:52you know, y like let's go for the yards that we know we can get.
- 1:04:56the riders only like to grind out drives.
- 1:04:59I don't remember them ever throwing deep passes a lot anyway.
- 1:05:02if you look earlier
- 1:05:03in the season, like up to within a week or two of Labor Day,
- 1:05:07they were within the top two or three teams for big plays.
- 1:05:12it doesn't seem like it's their MO,
- 1:05:15but they go they play the sh the short game,
- 1:05:18short game, or what they have done is short game,
- 1:05:20short game, short game, and then Harris hits somebody deep.
- 1:05:22And they get a a fast touchdown out of that.
- 1:05:24Don't forget early in the season they were one of the highest scoring teams
- 1:05:28in the league. And that's gone
- 1:05:30gone downhill from now. Yes,
- 1:05:32This feels so long ago.
- 1:05:34I know it is. And what I would say to
- 1:05:34Yeah.
- 1:05:36MJ2 to you is what you say makes sense about the receivers,
- 1:05:40but I would think that even if it's not something you're expecting to complete,
- 1:05:44at some point in the first half,
- 1:05:47you would send somebody deep and if you had to overthrow it or put it out of bounds,
- 1:05:52but just so that the thought is in their heads,
- 1:05:54back up or we're gonna hit you on this.
- 1:05:56And they don't seem to be doing that.
- 1:05:58Yeah.
- 1:05:59Yeah. But it's not all on Harris Sorry,
- 1:06:01go ahead. Yep.
- 1:06:03well I just wanna prop up the Stampeders a little bit.
- 1:06:06~ Alford got a touchdown pass.
- 1:06:08I fielded many texts from relatives for the Moose is loose,
- 1:06:09Yes, he did. Very nice. ~
- 1:06:14so
- 1:06:15that was fun. that was a really nice pass and catch and run
- 1:06:18Yes.
- 1:06:18from them. That was VA like the I just really have a note saying like the
- 1:06:22V the VA vibes are back.
- 1:06:24Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:06:24Yes.
- 1:06:25Like he looks
- 1:06:25like he is having fun out there and he's got such a good receiving core.
- 1:06:30yeah, it's just a joy. It was a it was a lot of fun to watch him.
- 1:06:34It's fun to watch him when he's playing really well.
- 1:06:37When he's on it, yes.
- 1:06:37~ Shik
- 1:06:38yeah, Shakette had a hurdle.
- 1:06:40Mm.
- 1:06:41Yeah.
- 1:06:42I was like, that was fun. That was fun.
- 1:06:44and well the I have two more points.
- 1:06:46One is not football rated. I'll do my football-related one first.
- 1:06:48~ I just said like this end like so fitting that this game ended with Hutching
- 1:06:52sacking Harris on the very last play.
- 1:06:54Like that just kind of summed the game up,
- 1:06:55Yep. So that pretty much does,
- 1:06:57and I was like, ~
- 1:06:58yes.
- 1:06:59Yeah. they had an electric powwow at halftime.
- 1:07:03Did you see videos of this?
- 1:07:05I missed that.
- 1:07:06It's so amazing. So it was all like dark with like lights and then it
- 1:07:10was like black like black all the ~ dancers came out and all their regalia
- 1:07:14is like ~ black light lit them so it's all glowing and they had like live
- 1:07:19DJs and it would look it was incredible.
- 1:07:22I want that as my halftime show.
- 1:07:26Yeah, can we vote on that?
- 1:07:26It was amazing.
- 1:07:28Anyway, good job, Regina. That ~ they worked with some local ~ indigenous artists
- 1:07:33to make logos for the powwow and different things and it just all together
- 1:07:38it just just hats off. It was beautiful and a lot of fun.
- 1:07:42Great to see. Yeah.
- 1:07:44Yeah.
- 1:07:45Yes. Yeah. And and you're right,
- 1:07:48I agree. VA was spectacular again,
- 1:07:51as he can be. And I think it's until we see different,
- 1:07:56it's not unfair to say that VA is a streaky quarterback.
- 1:08:02I think that's true. But his streaks aren't
- 1:08:07always one or two games. He can go on a heater.
- 1:08:09And like I said, he's had two good games.
- 1:08:11He needs four more. That's entirely doable.
- 1:08:14I think a lot of this year
- 1:08:15was also because of that head injury he had.
- 1:08:18Yeah.
- 1:08:19Well yeah, and the thing is in the past there have been other injuries that have
- 1:08:22maybe slowed him down too So there may be good reasons for it,
- 1:08:25but just going on what we've seen of him over several years there very sad.
- 1:08:28Yeah. I hope he he g if
- 1:08:31anyone in this league deserves it,
- 1:08:33I hope he goes on a tear.
- 1:08:35Yeah.
- 1:08:35But I think like you said, old man,
- 1:08:37it's the full the stamps are showing up ever like defense,
- 1:08:41special teams, or maybe it was MJ.
- 1:08:43like if you're looking at penalty,
- 1:08:45like Calgary I think was the most penalized,
- 1:08:48if not like close to, but they only had four penalties that game.
- 1:08:53Yeah, thirty yards.
- 1:08:54So so I mean, like they have
- 1:08:58Like good on the leadership in that locker room because they have their eyes set on,
- 1:09:02we need to win these games and how are we going to win these games?
- 1:09:05Well, part of that is we don't give away field position.
- 1:09:09and so good on the stamps because I feel like that was a full performance.
- 1:09:14It was
- 1:09:14So that game
- 1:09:15the
- 1:09:15in Calgary against Red Blacks was a TSN turning point.
- 1:09:18maybe it was. It could be. 'Cause
- 1:09:18Yes.
- 1:09:20'cause really again, my what I feel like watching Calgary when they play,
- 1:09:25the big difference between good wins and losses really does come down to VA.
- 1:09:32their defense is middle of the pack.
- 1:09:35that's not a that's not a slam on them.
- 1:09:37That's certainly good enough to win.
- 1:09:40if he can put up a lot of points.
- 1:09:41And if he puts up a starts putting up points,
- 1:09:43the defense, the whole team feeds on it.
- 1:09:45When he's
- 1:09:46Yeah.
- 1:09:47off, you can see that it's harder for them to to rally behind it.
- 1:09:51But no, I I think he's great. And yeah,
- 1:09:52to your point, again 30 yards for you I think,
- 1:09:55like you said, four penalties.
- 1:09:56Whereas the Riders had I think close to seventy penalties or seventy yards
- 1:10:00and on a bunch of penalties
- 1:10:01Yeah.
- 1:10:02with it. Yeah, Dell Duncan Busby dropping and a pass for a touchdown.
- 1:10:08Which, you know, again, in the ebb and flow of the
- 1:10:10Those little things.
- 1:10:11game, how it goes, those things make a big difference.
- 1:10:13No, that as long as they're doing stuff like that,
- 1:10:16they're they're not a a team that that's gonna go any distance.
- 1:10:22Yeah. Again, like we we talked before about teams on paper versus on
- 1:10:26the field and how
- 1:10:26Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:10:28that that changes, right? Like you've got everything you need almost
- 1:10:32and it's just yeah, those those mistakes or those penalties or those drops
- 1:10:38or that momentum changes everything.
- 1:10:41And I feel like the riders, for whatever reason
- 1:10:44I don't know if it's lack of belief in themselves,
- 1:10:46but like yeah, to come so close and Yeah.
- 1:10:49Something's changed. And yeah,
- 1:10:51Yeah.
- 1:10:52Vibes are off.
- 1:10:53and
- 1:10:54whether it's a a physical change with some of the players with
- 1:10:57the injuries and stuff, or whether it's something that somehow that locker room just
- 1:11:01doesn't have the cohesion 'cause everybody was raving about how tight they were last
- 1:11:06year. And I'm not hearing that so much this year,
- 1:11:08so who knows?
- 1:11:09They've had a tough
- 1:11:11tough go though, like losing a player and and how that happened.
- 1:11:15And I think that has to play into it.
- 1:11:17And I know a lot a lot of people are talking about that and maybe don't want
- 1:11:20to and it is none of my business,
- 1:11:22but I think that does change and affect a a lot in that locker room too.
- 1:11:27And they're they've also they've seemed to have gone from an attitude last year
- 1:11:33of okay, well if we have to lose a few a game here or there,
- 1:11:36we'll do it and we still are gonna put things together.
- 1:11:39Whereas this year it feels like there's a lot more desperation in them.
- 1:11:43I mean they put Emlis back as a punt returner when I think it was Lecture
- 1:11:47got hurt and that game he ends up getting injured and then they bring
- 1:11:50him back too early.
- 1:11:52trying to to get some some spark in a game and he gets injured again
- 1:11:56and the Conley decision at punt returns,
- 1:11:58it just doesn't feel like they're making solid decisions.
- 1:12:01It feels like they're pushing hard to try and find a win.
- 1:12:02They if
- 1:12:05it's I think there's a lot of pressure on them to go back to back.
- 1:12:09championships and I think when they almost are making not not to compare,
- 1:12:13but Ottawa's making desperation plays and they start to get a bit silly
- 1:12:17and this is almost like the same thing where you're making desperate decisions
- 1:12:21because you're so stressed and worried but then you're putting people yeah,
- 1:12:26you're not making logical decisions anymore.
- 1:12:28You're making desperate ones. And I don't then they didn't need to.
- 1:12:32That's the annoying thing is that they didn't need to.
- 1:12:36But they that they're treating it like that,
- 1:12:38I feel
- 1:12:38Yeah.
- 1:12:38Yeah.
- 1:12:38Yeah, I
- 1:12:39do feel like the the coaching decisions are have not been near as solid this year.
- 1:12:43But that doesn't take anything away from Calgary,
- 1:12:46'cause like you said, VA had a hell of a game.
- 1:12:48The
- 1:12:49Maybe
- 1:12:50they underestimated Calgary a little too,
- 1:12:52right? Like
- 1:12:53Yeah.
- 1:12:53maybe they did. Maybe they thought,
- 1:12:54this is an easy one and we were more worried about Montreal and Edmonton.
- 1:12:58Who knows?
- 1:12:59Yeah.
- 1:12:59But for whatever reason they they did not look good.
- 1:13:02And, you know, the other Philpot,
- 1:13:04Jalen, had a heck of a game. He had at least one touchdown.
- 1:13:07I don't know if he had more than that or not,
- 1:13:09but made some very nice catches and just they were utilizing
- 1:13:10Yeah, we did.
- 1:13:12everybody. They had Trayvon Jones get a I think two touchdowns out of that game
- 1:13:18or at least one long pass and one touchdown.
- 1:13:19So they were
- 1:13:21They were playing well. And if they keep that up,
- 1:13:25who knows where where the playoffs go this year.
- 1:13:29it's getting interesting as we see stuff here.
- 1:13:32Yes. Who's
- 1:13:33Yeah.
- 1:13:33Yes.
- 1:13:34got the vibes? Who's got the the flow of momentum?
- 1:13:36Yeah. Yes.
- 1:13:38Yeah.
- 1:13:38Yeah.
- 1:13:39And it looked like and I get me I guess you can still make the argument they won,
- 1:13:45so maybe the the hottest team in the CFL is still the Lions.
- 1:13:48But they were going against a Toronto team without Chad Kelly.
- 1:13:53which is a different team considerably and with Nick Arbuckle in there
- 1:13:58and they they won twenty four seventeen.
- 1:14:01But they threw a
- 1:14:04Arbuckle threw an interception with under three minutes to go to get
- 1:14:09BC the ball back. They went two and out and Toronto marched down again
- 1:14:13and had it on the one yard line and got stuffed on third and goal at the one.
- 1:14:17So not a dominant performance by BC.
- 1:14:20Bourke had two hundred
- 1:14:21No.
- 1:14:22and fifty four yards. He was under fifty percent in passing.
- 1:14:25He was fifteen for thirty two.
- 1:14:27And he was getting drops
- 1:14:28And
- 1:14:29again.
- 1:14:30Yeah, and I was gonna say like he was he was the one who rushed for
- 1:14:34the most yards again this game.
- 1:14:35Yeah. Yeah. The only good thing
- 1:14:35So not great.
- 1:14:38sort of with within the the game for them on on offense really yeah.
- 1:14:41I've said in the past, you know,
- 1:14:43I again I I do think B C I have been underrating and I haven't given the credit,
- 1:14:48but I've said in the past where they've had troubles is when their defense gets
- 1:14:51busted and that didn't really happen in this game.
- 1:14:54They they held up fairly well,
- 1:14:56but every defense should well,
- 1:14:58apparently Toronto didn't, but most defenses will give up a touchdown or two.
- 1:15:02So you you're gonna have that.
- 1:15:03But they also what's held them back has been their special teams,
- 1:15:06especially their returns, which weren't great in this game.
- 1:15:09And their their offense was just getting too many drops.
- 1:15:13It was a combination of Nathan not being
- 1:15:17either accurate or not reading right and when the b got the ball
- 1:15:19to the receivers they were dropping too many.
- 1:15:21For th three or four games they did away with that.
- 1:15:24And then it just seemed to come back in this game.
- 1:15:26am I wrong? Is that
- 1:15:28Toronto defense has been playing well though.
- 1:15:30They have yeah,
- 1:15:31I'm not taking anything away from that.
- 1:15:32But there were also I thought there were also drops that yeah.
- 1:15:34This is kinda how beasts but
- 1:15:36I mean I mean at the end of the day,
- 1:15:38a win is a win. And you're right,
- 1:15:40they didn't play great, but they played better.
- 1:15:42And
- 1:15:42Yeah.
- 1:15:43you don't need you don't need field touchdowns to win.
- 1:15:46No you got Sean White.
- 1:15:47Apparently not. At least yeah.
- 1:15:50They they have the most satisfying score line.
- 1:15:50Or or Vincent Blanchard. Yeah.
- 1:15:52He had they have they have six points each quarter.
- 1:15:55It's just sixes across the board.
- 1:15:57Yeah. Yep. If
- 1:15:58So two
- 1:15:59field goals a quarter wins you a game in Toronto.
- 1:16:01Yes. And if i
- 1:16:02~
- 1:16:03If
- 1:16:03we're
- 1:16:03if tr
- 1:16:04so I was just gonna say and if Toronto had punched in that touchdown at
- 1:16:07the end of the game, maybe he would have a new record for field goals with
- 1:16:11the overtimes.
- 1:16:12Okay, so this
- 1:16:13is my thing. This is my thing.
- 1:16:15I think Sean should have the CFL record because he kicked 8 for
- 1:16:198 in regulation time. And there should be a little a not to take away from Vincent
- 1:16:24Blanchard, but that those two of those were in overtime.
- 1:16:27And I think there should be a little asterisk.
- 1:16:29So in my heart, Sean White has the CFL record.
- 1:16:32You're one of these
- 1:16:33people that says that that saying Horovath's new touchdown record won't count too,
- 1:16:37right? I figure Yeah.
- 1:16:38I am the one of those people that says that yes.
- 1:16:41But he's not playing he's not
- 1:16:43punching anything in lately either,
- 1:16:45so you know.
- 1:16:45No, that's true.
- 1:16:46It's been a couple of games. So,
- 1:16:48yeah.
- 1:16:49~
- 1:16:49what else happened? ~ Polk had a really nice one-hand grab touchdown.
- 1:16:53That was that was beautiful. He's he's such a Yeah.
- 1:16:54That was very pretty behind ~ and yeah.
- 1:16:58Mattel had a sideline temper tantrum.
- 1:17:01He was screaming at Mike Miller and like
- 1:17:02Yes. With Miller.
- 1:17:06So I was like, that's interesting because well,
- 1:17:06It's the throw the way.
- 1:17:08nope, because Kenny Lawler had a freak out the week before on the sideline.
- 1:17:13And I was like, interesting that another receiver who doesn't think they're getting
- 1:17:16the ball thrown them enough is having a full-on temper tantrum on the sideline.
- 1:17:21And I can't remember s it's been a long time since I've seen this many people having
- 1:17:25sideline meltdowns. Like
- 1:17:27Yeah.
- 1:17:28Yeah, well hey.
- 1:17:29Thanks T
- 1:17:29S N for
- 1:17:30Like Mattel,
- 1:17:31Chad Kelly was trying to calm Mattel down.
- 1:17:33And I'm like, if Chad
- 1:17:33Yeah, try to
- 1:17:33Kelly is the is the one trying to calm you down,
- 1:17:35I I think we have problems.
- 1:17:37I ha I had that mark down too.
- 1:17:39When when ch when Kelly is your mediator,
- 1:17:42is your voice of reason.
- 1:17:43Yeah.
- 1:17:45~
- 1:17:46But I think that the Argos are in that,
- 1:17:48like I mean, now that they've got their place,
- 1:17:51but like they seem to be not playing desperate,
- 1:17:55but like they seem to be playing emotional football.
- 1:17:57~
- 1:17:58Yeah.
- 1:17:59but I think that that's part of what makes them either great,
- 1:18:02like Kelly, right? Like he's an emotional player.
- 1:18:06And I don't know, like I feel like that's part of Toronto's what what makes them
- 1:18:12Fiery is that they rely ~ sometimes on that.
- 1:18:15But yeah, if if Kelly is the one that's talking you down,
- 1:18:19maybe it's gone too far.
- 1:18:21it seems like it's part of Toronto culture 'cause if you remember four
- 1:18:25or five years ago Speedy B was doing this on the sidelines.
- 1:18:28And then we've seen it with Kelly and we saw it a couple of years
- 1:18:31ago with with Dinwiddie chasing his O linemen along the bench screaming
- 1:18:36at the top of his lungs while they ignored him,
- 1:18:38Yeah. I don't know.
- 1:18:39Yeah.
- 1:18:40They ~ they don't have to like each other to play together,
- 1:18:43apparently.
- 1:18:45Yeah. But then
- 1:18:46BC,
- 1:18:47BC, yeah. They they got out of there with a win they shouldn't have had.
- 1:18:51Yes.
- 1:18:51And
- 1:18:51that's what I was gonna say, like BC probably should not have won that game,
- 1:18:56but at this time of year, like you said with the elks,
- 1:19:00like determined to win, need those points,
- 1:19:02Yeah. And yeah.
- 1:19:03came out with the points. So good on
- 1:19:05They don't ask how.
- 1:19:06BC. They made it happen even if Rourke didn't look great or the
- 1:19:10Didn't have his greatest game yet.
- 1:19:11Yep. That that
- 1:19:11res for whatever reason Rourke
- 1:19:12wasn't connecting.
- 1:19:13BC line defense, that goal line stuff,
- 1:19:16they stuffed him twice. And that was
- 1:19:17No. Yep. That was impressive. And yeah.
- 1:19:21basically the TSN turning point of that game.
- 1:19:23Like Right at the end.
- 1:19:23Yeah, yeah, right at the end. ~ And
- 1:19:27and yeah, and I know I it's cliche,
- 1:19:29but yeah, they don't ask how, they ask how many.
- 1:19:31And that's
- 1:19:32Yep.
- 1:19:32what matters. And they made enough good plays.
- 1:19:35They didn't get it into the end zone,
- 1:19:36but they got it down into field goal range eight times.
- 1:19:38There was a I don't know that you can call it a skill interception as much
- 1:19:44as just a pure nice reaction and athletic
- 1:19:47Capability from De Dante Williams where he came in on a blitz,
- 1:19:51batted the ball up in the air,
- 1:19:52and then turned around and found it somehow for the interception,
- 1:19:55which you don't often see. Nice play there.
- 1:19:59Any anything else we need to talk?
- 1:19:59Dexterity. But again, like BC defense held Grant.
- 1:20:02~ yeah. Yeah.
- 1:20:04Yeah, and
- 1:20:04and even especially special teams,
- 1:20:06because he's an explosive player.
- 1:20:08~
- 1:20:09Yeah.
- 1:20:10and there weren't a lot of those this weekend.
- 1:20:12Like I know we talked about Ottawa already,
- 1:20:14but Pimpleton really didn't do much.
- 1:20:15But like Grant had nothing. So whatever BC did to prepare for special teams
- 1:20:22to take him down worked. So well done,
- 1:20:24Yeah. Yes they did. Yeah.
- 1:20:26special teams BC on that.
- 1:20:28Yeah. Across the country, travel that distance,
- 1:20:32play a relatively early game,
- 1:20:35they did enough to win. And that's that's what it takes.
- 1:20:39But it does sort of show again where when I'm trying to pick who I think
- 1:20:44is in the best shape to get out of the West right now,
- 1:20:47every time I wanna say B C looks like they've
- 1:20:51They've caught it and and are gonna be the ones there's a stumble like this,
- 1:20:55you know.
- 1:20:56Is
- 1:20:57it a s what that w you're pulling out a gritty win though.
- 1:20:59That's all you need to do.
- 1:20:59Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:21:01yeah, exactly. And I mean Edmonton went into Toronto and lost.
- 1:21:05They didn't pull off the win. So there's that too.
- 1:21:07But it just yeah, it's there's a lot of good teams in the West right now.
- 1:21:14But yeah, yeah, but but yeah,
- 1:21:14Yeah, and they're not infallible.
- 1:21:14that just shows the parody of the league in a lot of ways.
- 1:21:19and I guess yeah, 'cause I was gonna say,
- 1:21:21but they're not doing what Montreal's done.
- 1:21:22But Montreal stumbled a few times too,
- 1:21:24so yeah, maybe I'm just expecting
- 1:21:24Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:21:25too much out of people. Speaking of Montreal that last game
- 1:21:28But there's still no powerhouse.
- 1:21:29Yeah.
- 1:21:30Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
- 1:21:30Yeah, there's no powerhouse this year,
- 1:21:31really. I mean
- 1:21:32anybody can beat up just about anybody,
- 1:21:35well, almost. ~
- 1:21:36Except for one.
- 1:21:37yeah. Yeah.
- 1:21:37Ottawa. We're glad you're here.
- 1:21:41And then the
- 1:21:41Someone
- 1:21:41has to be last.
- 1:21:43Yeah.
- 1:21:43Yeah. But do they have to do it that well?
- 1:21:47I don't know. Anyway, the last game I don't have a lot of notes on this.
- 1:21:52Winnipeg ten at Montreal thirty seven.
- 1:21:56I said the Winnipeg or Montreal's one mistake might have been when they turned
- 1:22:02the ball over on downs on a third and a yard and a half.
- 1:22:05But other than that, nothing they even had a convert hit the goalpost and bounce in.
- 1:22:11So they just could do no wrong and
- 1:22:13Everything's going
- 1:22:14their way.
- 1:22:15Yeah, and Davis
- 1:22:16was doing what he does and Tyson was doing what he does and the other receivers
- 1:22:19and Rohan Jones, like I said, gets himself a touchdown just 'cause
- 1:22:23~ we need somebody else out of all of these to go to.
- 1:22:27A fun game, but
- 1:22:27Like was that his first game? I don't think
- 1:22:29it was his first game, but it was his first touchdown of the season.
- 1:22:32It was his first touchdown, yeah.
- 1:22:32Yeah. Yeah. He's played about three
- 1:22:32Yeah.
- 1:22:34games I don't think he's had a touchdown before.
- 1:22:36Yeah, he had a nice long pass before,
- 1:22:38but and they used him on on kick returns and he did one that wasn't bad.
- 1:22:42But yeah, this was the first touchdown and I mean that was such
- 1:22:45a well designed play. I could probably have gotten into the end zone
- 1:22:48and caught that ball. But
- 1:22:50But
- 1:22:50what a way to start the game like Philpott for a long throw.
- 1:22:54Yep. Yep. Yeah.
- 1:22:55Like, well done Montreal. Thank you.
- 1:22:57Leaving no doubt
- 1:22:58So
- 1:22:58of how what we're doing.
- 1:23:00I thought but but Winnipeg answered back with Wilson on that
- 1:23:02Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:23:04deep pass. So I was like, ho okay,
- 1:23:06great, perfect. But then I was like,
- 1:23:08Winnipeg did they what they did in Toronto.
- 1:23:09Okay, guys, they scored fourteen points in the first no,
- 1:23:13ten points in the first. They didn't score the rest of the game.
- 1:23:15Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:23:16Not a single point. Like w
- 1:23:18And
- 1:23:21and really that that
- 1:23:21The Als had over forty minutes of possession.
- 1:23:24yeah. Yeah, close
- 1:23:25Brady had
- 1:23:25forty four yards rushing and he didn't even have a pass out of the backfield.
- 1:23:30Like I said, that's what's happening this year.
- 1:23:32The nobody's using their running backs on in the flats.
- 1:23:35Everybody's going to the the wide receiver screens or fullbacks out in the flats.
- 1:23:39Anyway, but yeah, no, and they tried to run Brady.
- 1:23:42They couldn't.
- 1:23:43You know, it's ~
- 1:23:44But
- 1:23:44But you didn't even like they hardly threw to anyone.
- 1:23:48Like White had four targets, like Wilson six,
- 1:23:51Neil two, Singer two. That's it.
- 1:23:54That's it.
- 1:23:54Yeah, 'cause they couldn't stay
- 1:23:56on the field. Just yeah.
- 1:23:57'Cause I I was
- 1:23:58curious. So I was looking at like the the first down stats 'cause I was like,
- 1:24:03not a lot. the bombers only had six first downs the entire game.
- 1:24:08I don't know how you ever gonna get in field goal range or in touchdown range
- 1:24:13if you only have six winnipeg
- 1:24:14You know, I
- 1:24:15think the Aloettes are the most petty team in the CFL.
- 1:24:19And you just know that they were so mad that the bombers came in there
- 1:24:24a little while ago and like beat them up.
- 1:24:26And you could tell that this was a like this was personal.
- 1:24:30Like
- 1:24:32and I took that personally. You did.
- 1:24:34And you just like stomped on this team
- 1:24:34Yeah. yeah.
- 1:24:37and made them cry. It should have been like sixty to ten,
- 1:24:39really. Like they let off the gas in the fourth.
- 1:24:42They were like, Okay, well
- 1:24:44Yeah.
- 1:24:44we're only gonna score six points this
- 1:24:46quarter, like
- 1:24:48Scott ran well for Montreal. I'll give you that.
- 1:24:50Yeah.
- 1:24:50I
- 1:24:51I did listen I I've said before,
- 1:24:53I try not to listen to any of the other podcasts until ours are done.
- 1:24:56But I was a bit bored yesterday and I so I listened to the three down
- 1:25:01one and I think it was J C. Abbott who pointed out in there that yeah,
- 1:25:04Winnipeg had more penalties than first downs.
- 1:25:07Yes, they had eleven penalties.
- 1:25:07my god.
- 1:25:09So
- 1:25:10you're giving up a hundred and like that's a football field's worth if
- 1:25:13we count that against them, I wonder how many yards they had total
- 1:25:17and then minus their penalties.
- 1:25:19I mean
- 1:25:19Like the
- 1:25:20Winnipeg Blue Bombers are so lucky that football counts down and eventually
- 1:25:24the game will be over. 'Cause if this was baseball,
- 1:25:26you need to get three outs and inning.
- 1:25:27That game would never have ended,
- 1:25:27Yeah. Yeah, and they and they weren't.
- 1:25:29Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:25:32ever. Like Lucky
- 1:25:34for you, the clock keeps ticking down.
- 1:25:36Yes. Yeah. Eventually
- 1:25:37the other team would have got tired and and taken some outs just to
- 1:25:40get it done with, but
- 1:25:41Yeah.
- 1:25:41All the position players start pitching and like
- 1:25:42Yeah. Yes.
- 1:25:45But I think Montreal's sending out notice to everyone else.
- 1:25:48Like, we are undefeated
- 1:25:49Yeah.
- 1:25:49at home. you come here, prepare
- 1:25:50Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:25:53to be dominated, you're gonna we're gonna humiliate you.
- 1:25:54I
- 1:25:56I think that a lot of people are like they're gonna take their foot off
- 1:25:58the gas and I'm like I don't think this
- 1:25:59Mm.
- 1:26:00team's taking their foot off because they they are very motivated by like they wanna
- 1:26:04get Tyson Philpot like they want him to beat Alan Pitt's record.
- 1:26:08I think they really are wanna they're very petty.
- 1:26:11They have like bulletin board material like for days on end and I think that they're
- 1:26:17the especially how they played last year and with Alexander being hurt,
- 1:26:20I think that they're really like just it's gonna be full f watch out other teams.
- 1:26:24Yeah.
- 1:26:25also
- 1:26:25like Alexander don't run. You didn't need to run in this game.
- 1:26:28You were running and you s you scared me a lot.
- 1:26:31Yeah. Yeah, but his his
- 1:26:32a hamstring and his ankle or his lower leg didn't look bad,
- 1:26:35so maybe that's a good thing. Maybe the the bye was enough.
- 1:26:38Honestly, every time he every time he runs,
- 1:26:39Yeah.
- 1:26:39I hold my breath.
- 1:26:41And I'm not even a huge Alouettes like I'm just like,
- 1:26:43my god, don't do it. Like
- 1:26:44Yeah. You you and
- 1:26:46about depending on on the ~ how many are are people are watching on the on
- 1:26:51the R D S, the French side, you and about probably six hundred thousand people every
- 1:26:56time you runs
- 1:26:56Then and like especially in a game like this,
- 1:26:58I'm like, y sir, no. Like you are they have you have they have not scored since
- 1:27:02the first. Like you you don't need to be running for first downs.
- 1:27:05Like I appreciate the like hustle,
- 1:27:08but you don't don't do it.
- 1:27:10And I know I talk about Moss all the time.
- 1:27:12And but I just think there is something special about you're right,
- 1:27:17like the pettiness, the making it personal.
- 1:27:20Like this is whatever Jason Moss is doing is working.
- 1:27:24he runs a good football team and he knows how to get the best out of
- 1:27:27his players and give them the space to do that too.
- 1:27:31Yeah.
- 1:27:32So I don't know. I think if I was playing for a coach,
- 1:27:36I would want to play for Jason Moss.
- 1:27:37He does a lot of the fun things,
- 1:27:39but he I think also has like really high standards.
- 1:27:43Like the Als only had three penalties.
- 1:27:44Like if we're looking at penalties.
- 1:27:46Right, like so this is a disciplined team that shows up for each other
- 1:27:49and then you think this is such a fun team to be a part of.
- 1:27:53And I don't know unless something
- 1:27:58strange happens, I don't see how they're not in the Great Cup.
- 1:28:02Yeah.
- 1:28:02They were also
- 1:28:02talking about how like Alexander's like best friends with everyone on the team.
- 1:28:06Like the defense, he's like buddies with all the defensive players,
- 1:28:09and he he talks to everyone on the team and he checks in with everyone
- 1:28:13on the team in the off season.
- 1:28:14And like that is how you it's like building a community,
- 1:28:17right? Like they have built a community and they all
- 1:28:17Yes.
- 1:28:17Yep. Build a family, yep.
- 1:28:20rally no matter what position they're playing on that field.
- 1:28:23And it
- 1:28:23Yes. Yeah.
- 1:28:24And it shows
- 1:28:25shows.
- 1:28:26And and I and I agree with you that the team probably really wants Tyson
- 1:28:31to get that record. I don't know with the coaching staff,
- 1:28:36'cause honestly, as much as I want to see good football and everything,
- 1:28:39if I'm a a Montreal coach, how much am I putting Philpot out there
- 1:28:43for the next three weeks when you've had such a fantastic season.
- 1:28:48You know, what happens if you play him in I think the final game
- 1:28:53is against Toronto and so you you play him full out to send a message
- 1:28:57and he gets hurt. So I don't I hope
- 1:28:59do you play
- 1:29:00scared though? I don't think you can play scared when you play football though.
- 1:29:02I ~
- 1:29:04not not the player. The player can't play scared,
- 1:29:07but I can see a coach.
- 1:29:08think d what I don't know what do you think of do you think Jason's gonna like
- 1:29:12sit Philpot?
- 1:29:14Mike Miller would.
- 1:29:15Mike Miller.
- 1:29:16yeah. Definitely w he would and O'Shea would and and others.
- 1:29:20Yeah. Probably pierced. Yeah.
- 1:29:20So the question for this is is
- 1:29:23he and and the I think there's a good argument to be made for use him half time
- 1:29:28in the last three games. Like don't sit him,
- 1:29:30but
- 1:29:32Get some of your other people out there ~ the last thing I'd do is
- 1:29:35sit right out completely, or if you're going to okay,
- 1:29:37They could put Crumb in for the last three games and sit Alexander
- 1:29:37sit right but Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:29:43and like they they've clinched the East Final.
- 1:29:44Yeah, exactly. So so
- 1:29:45They don't need
- 1:29:46to do anything, but I think they're going to because that's just how this team
- 1:29:50is built.
- 1:29:51I don't disagree with that. That it's hard to predict that vibe but
- 1:29:54but what I'm saying is I would put Tyson in,
- 1:29:56but I'd play him every second or third series.
- 1:29:59Just to limit the the the chances that are there.
- 1:30:02And then if you get in a game that's close and you need him more,
- 1:30:05well maybe you play him some more.
- 1:30:06But but that's me. I could easily be wrong I am nowhere near the coach that Jason
- 1:30:12Maas is, so we'll let them make those decisions.
- 1:30:14It's gonna be interesting to see.
- 1:30:16Sorry, I'm pontificating again here,
- 1:30:17but I'll try and get this over quick.
- 1:30:19I don't care how you look at it.
- 1:30:20I don't think you can say, Okay,
- 1:30:22we're gonna take our really important players out for three games because
- 1:30:26we don't need them now. I think you I think you maybe,
- 1:30:30if you're worried about doing stuff,
- 1:30:33you maybe in the next two games,
- 1:30:35give one start to Alexander and one start to Crumb.
- 1:30:41And then in the last game you play Alexander for the first quarter and
- 1:30:45and then put Crumb in and maybe the same sort of thing like that.
- 1:30:49Or you do what MJ's saying. You say,
- 1:30:51Screw it, we're gonna go beat some teams and
- 1:30:55There's something to crumb being in because remember thinking of Dinwiddy,
- 1:30:59remember his Grey Cup appearance?
- 1:31:01there's something to having reps for your backup.
- 1:31:04~ yeah.
- 1:31:04That's true.
- 1:31:04Yep. Yep.
- 1:31:07I don't th I betcha they play Alexander.
- 1:31:09If they have home games, I think Alexander's playing,
- 1:31:11but maybe away games they might play
- 1:31:13Chrome.
- 1:31:13Well that might make some sense 'cause I they're in Montreal this week
- 1:31:16on on ~ Thanksgiving. And then they're in
- 1:31:16Yeah. Yep, Saskatchewan comes in.
- 1:31:17Yeah.
- 1:31:19Yeah.
- 1:31:19to s in Saskatchewan. So yeah,
- 1:31:20~ speaking
- 1:31:21maybe
- 1:31:21of like petty, petty, petty Alouettes you just know that they're gonna play their
- 1:31:27full roster because they want they're gonna yeah.
- 1:31:30This is bulletin board material.
- 1:31:30Yeah. They'll pl Yeah. They'll
- 1:31:33they'll play their full roster in one of those games and probably at home.
- 1:31:38is what I'm thinking. But yeah,
- 1:31:40with it there. So who knows? I th like you s we said,
- 1:31:44we know they're in first place and we know they're awful hard to beat at home.
- 1:31:48Sorry, Saskatchewan.
- 1:31:50Yeah. Well, at this point I'm not frankly,
- 1:31:53a Saskatchewan fan, I'm always gonna have hope.
- 1:31:55I've seen too much of them not necessarily winning great cups,
- 1:31:58but winning games they shouldn't and things like that.
- 1:32:00But yeah, realistically looking at it,
- 1:32:03I think going into the playoffs right now,
- 1:32:05there are f are five teams that have
- 1:32:11a legitimate shot at winning a gray cup if things fall their way.
- 1:32:16But I don't think the Riders are one of them.
- 1:32:18Not unless they turn around a lot of their play.
- 1:32:21And we know Hamilton isn't one of them,
- 1:32:23sorry. And Ottawa. But, you know,
- 1:32:25Yeah.
- 1:32:26but
- 1:32:26but
- 1:32:27Yeah.
- 1:32:27other than that, Toronto, if they put things together for a couple of games
- 1:32:32at the end in Montreal and then you know,
- 1:32:35like you said, they play well at home.
- 1:32:36So whoever they cross over, they win that.
- 1:32:39If they can beat Montreal, they've got a legitimate shot of whoever they're going
- 1:32:42up against in the West. And the same thing out in the West with at least
- 1:32:45the top three teams. You know,
- 1:32:48with
- 1:32:48B C Calgary and Edmonton.
- 1:32:51But I'm not I'm not writing the writers off.
- 1:32:54I'm just saying they have to there has to be a marked
- 1:32:57They got a h long ways to go.
- 1:32:58a marked turnaround in the play and how they're handling things.
- 1:33:02All right. Anything else talk about there?
- 1:33:04Enough love for Montreal, I have to admit.
- 1:33:07That's good to see them playing that well and it's just it's fun football to watch.
- 1:33:11And they did put a flea flicker in too,
- 1:33:14so
- 1:33:15so with all this stuff going on,
- 1:33:17it's time for another set of MJ's official CFL Outsiders power rankings.
- 1:33:23And I'll tell you right now, my most important thing that I'm looking
- 1:33:27for is I'm waiting to see who you have in fourth place.
- 1:33:30Get ready for everyone to be mad at me.
- 1:33:32I cannot wait.
- 1:33:33Yeah. People
- 1:33:35have been nice to you actually on most of the comments that we've had.
- 1:33:38They're people haven't been complaining lately.
- 1:33:39Well, we'll see. We'll
- 1:33:42we'll see if maybe everyone else is like accepting the reality
- 1:33:45of their team's situation.
- 1:33:47Yeah.
- 1:33:49Alright, so number one is the Alouettes.
- 1:33:52Number two is the Lions. Elks are on the by,
- 1:33:55so they stay at number three. Number four is the Argos.
- 1:34:00Cause, yeah. Five is the Stampeders.
- 1:34:03Six is the Riders. Seven is the Tycats.
- 1:34:07Eight is the Bombers. And nine is the Red Blacks.
- 1:34:11Hm.
- 1:34:12That sounds a just about right.
- 1:34:15I that's the first time the Thai cats have like moved ~ I know,
- 1:34:19no, we were higher earlier this year.
- 1:34:20Yeah. yeah. Week one and two we had.
- 1:34:21It's been a long
- 1:34:22but it's been a while that we've been
- 1:34:23Yes. Yes. It's been
- 1:34:24time since I've had to move that them on that power ranking list.
- 1:34:28For like
- 1:34:30weeks at a time it was like Calgary,
- 1:34:32Hamilton, Ottawa.
- 1:34:32Yeah Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:34:34it was pretty consistent for Ottawa isn't there too.
- 1:34:36But yeah. No, the that's the only thing that I that was the only question
- 1:34:40I had for third and fourth. Would it be the the Elk and the or the Argos?
- 1:34:46Because the Argos are playing a very really good ball.
- 1:34:49But while we don't know about what's going on
- 1:34:50I was told
- 1:34:51not to move people on a bye when only one team was on the bye.
- 1:34:54Yeah, but you're in charge. You don't have to follow any rules.
- 1:34:55I mean like no GT's gonna yell at me.
- 1:35:00You get to set the rules, my friend.
- 1:35:02You're the you're the one in charge,
- 1:35:04so you do what you want. But but
- 1:35:06Elks No, because you know why?
- 1:35:07Because the Argos lost to a team that did not score a touchdown.
- 1:35:11Yes.
- 1:35:11Yes.
- 1:35:12And that's not the reason that I wouldn't do it.
- 1:35:14although it it's kind of the same thing.
- 1:35:16I wouldn't I would still put them below the elk because we don't know what's going
- 1:35:20on with Kelly's hand. And that could could be significant.
- 1:35:25So I yeah, I don't disagree with you,
- 1:35:27but that that was the only to tell you the truth,
- 1:35:29having stepped through them in my own head,
- 1:35:31I was pretty much where you were other than those two.
- 1:35:34And I was wavering on them. What do you think,
- 1:35:36Look at those Ti- cats.
- 1:35:37MJ Two, you happy with all that?
- 1:35:40Yeah, I mean that makes sense to me.
- 1:35:42Calgary is moving up at the right time.
- 1:35:43I'm always happy to see Ti- Cat's not near the bottom.
- 1:35:47Yes.
- 1:35:47But
- 1:35:47the bombers are just completely falling apart.
- 1:35:50So yeah.
- 1:35:51Yeah.
- 1:35:52Yeah. Yeah, it should be interesting
- 1:35:53Terrible.
- 1:35:54this weekend. Yeah. Yeah, they're and he Hamilton just has to get out of
- 1:35:59the ~ the season and then next year bring back as many of the people as they
- 1:36:04can and get Bo back and maybe there's a light at the
- 1:36:05Yes. Yeah.
- 1:36:07end of the tunnel and maybe it's not a train.
- 1:36:09Who knows? Entirely
- 1:36:11Yeah.
- 1:36:11possible. So injury reports.
- 1:36:16For the games this week. We've got out of the ~ eight teams we've got five reports.
- 1:36:22And they're all early, so keep that in mind.
- 1:36:26But Edmonton, nobody was did not participate,
- 1:36:29nobody of note anyway. There were on all of these there might be some backups
- 1:36:32and that, but people that we should know.
- 1:36:34Beard on the O line, Fox on the D line,
- 1:36:37Cordell Jackson and Robustelli were all limited in practice to start this week.
- 1:36:43Jackson's been helping out with the kids flag football on Sundays.
- 1:36:47good.
- 1:36:47Maybe that's why he's limited.
- 1:36:49He's just so tired from
- 1:36:49Yeah. He's like so
- 1:36:51tired from running around after children all all afternoon.
- 1:36:53Believe me. Officiating
- 1:36:56or helping with with the with that young crowd.
- 1:36:58That is tiring. I've done that.
- 1:37:00Yeah ma
- 1:37:02yes. Hamilton, ~ Fox from the D line,
- 1:37:06Mang, Peters in the back defensive backfield,
- 1:37:10Szeman who I mentioned was getting better snaps at center,
- 1:37:13and Wheatfall were all did not participate.
- 1:37:16So we'll see how many of those make it into the game.
- 1:37:22Wheatfall is the with the worry for me,
- 1:37:24anyway.
- 1:37:25Yeah, that's
- 1:37:26a bad one. Well Jamal Peters is a big like that's a big lot.
- 1:37:30That's hard, it's tough. Well what happens
- 1:37:30Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And Mang takes away some of your scoring zone stuff.
- 1:37:36when our O linemen get hurt during the game and Mang's not there to be O linemen?
- 1:37:40Yeah, exactly. There's that too.
- 1:37:41What then, Ti- Cats?
- 1:37:42Yeah. Yes.
- 1:37:45Ottawa. Blaylock and Ruffin were limited both from the defensive backfield
- 1:37:50and Talala from the D line was did not participate.
- 1:37:55BC only Bell from the D line was did not participate.
- 1:37:58Cherry on the D line, TJ Lee and Schluger were all limited.
- 1:38:03And with Calgary, ~ Williams and and Ashmore from
- 1:38:09the O line, and Roscoe and Joseph from the D line were both did not participate.
- 1:38:15And then ~ Ajou AJou and
- 1:38:19Bell from the O line and Philpot,
- 1:38:20we're all limited. So hopefully that's not doesn't mean they lose Philpot this
- 1:38:25weekend. That would be a big
- 1:38:26Phil Potts probably still in Montre he's out in Montreal,
- 1:38:29like celebrating with his family.
- 1:38:30Yeah, quite possible.
- 1:38:33be fun.
- 1:38:34And then Winnipeg, Saskatchewan,
- 1:38:36and Montreal, there's no reports for them.
- 1:38:37So that takes us to our game predictions.
- 1:38:43Who
- 1:38:43we'll go first. We'll start with MJ two 'cause she's the furthest top
- 1:38:48and left and we'll work our way around maybe.
- 1:38:50Edmonton and Hamilton.
- 1:38:53~ those Thai cats are moving up,
- 1:38:54but ~ I'm picking Edmonton on this one.
- 1:38:57yeah. I I think this is a must win for points for Edmonton,
- 1:39:01so yep.
- 1:39:03And I think I think Edmonton a week ago was going into the bye,
- 1:39:10which can be a difficult game to play,
- 1:39:12and they were a little bit worn down with stuff,
- 1:39:16and they were playing a team that maybe they weren't quite as prepped
- 1:39:19for as they should have. I do not think they'll make that same mistake coming
- 1:39:23out of a bye. So I'm also taking Edmonton.
- 1:39:25How about you, MJ?
- 1:39:27I think the Ti- Cats are gonna make it interesting for about like a half.
- 1:39:30I think that it'll take the Elks a little while to get going off of the bye.
- 1:39:35again the Ti- Cats took them to OT and they are playing better,
- 1:39:39but they're not playing Edmonton better,
- 1:39:41and I think that the Elks will like kinda wake up in the second half and
- 1:39:45put it all together.
- 1:39:47Yeah.
- 1:39:47Yeah, I don't expect this to be a blowout.
- 1:39:49I think
- 1:39:50No.
- 1:39:51probably a five to ten point game.
- 1:39:54We'll see. Okay, so we're we're all on Edmonton there.
- 1:39:58Ottawa goes out to BC ready to perform a miracle.
- 1:40:04To show that the last 15 weeks have been nothing but a mirage and that they
- 1:40:10are a team which
- 1:40:12is to be feared. MJ
- 1:40:14They would win out on the West Coast on a late game.
- 1:40:18They would, wouldn't they? They would just do it We're all so mad and we're like
- 1:40:20Yeah. this should
- 1:40:23no one's picking them anymore and they're gonna go out to the hardest place to play
- 1:40:27and pull out a win and I just but I'm not picking them because I have learned
- 1:40:30my lesson.
- 1:40:31Yes. MJ two.
- 1:40:35I have been on the red blacks train and I have been their supporter
- 1:40:40and I am done and I am moving on.
- 1:40:44So BC, I look forward to you winning.
- 1:40:46~ go Sean White. Yay!
- 1:40:48Yeah.
- 1:40:48Yes.
- 1:40:49Yes. Yes. Another kicker that'll I don't know that he's announced officially,
- 1:40:54but he's unofficially announced he's done.
- 1:40:55He did well,
- 1:40:56unofficially, he said once the new rules came
- 1:40:57Did he?
- 1:40:58in, he was like, Well, I know my end date.
- 1:40:58Yep, exactly.
- 1:41:00And he posted that, yeah.
- 1:41:01So
- 1:41:03So
- 1:41:04What a guy.
- 1:41:04Yeah, so good for them. And yeah,
- 1:41:07I said last week I'm not picking Ottawa again until they win.
- 1:41:09That was against Hamilton. I'm certainly not gonna change that rule against BC.
- 1:41:14So put me down for the Lions. Yeah,
- 1:41:15Now we're all picking the lions,
- 1:41:16now the Redlocks are gonna win.
- 1:41:18that's
- 1:41:18that would be the the best CFL chaos.
- 1:41:19That's the most CFL
- 1:41:21thing that could possibly happen.
- 1:41:22Yeah.
- 1:41:23And and not just win but like win by fifteen points or something.
- 1:41:27yeah, like
- 1:41:28Our
- 1:41:28dad would disagree. He would be very angry at this conversation.
- 1:41:31I'm sure he would, but
- 1:41:32He would. Sorry Dad. What we mean to say is Rourke's gonna have Rourke's gonna
- 1:41:32BC's gonna win,
- 1:41:36totally fine.
- 1:41:37Yeah.
- 1:41:37put a clinic on.
- 1:41:38Those passes are gonna be clean and crisp.
- 1:41:40Threaten things.
- 1:41:40But for th for the greater good of
- 1:41:42c of chaos, which is what we all love.
- 1:41:44I I would love to see it.
- 1:41:45Wouldn't it be something?
- 1:41:46They put Barnes in for Ottawa and it turns out you know what?
- 1:41:49He is the the quarterback of the future.
- 1:41:52Four hundred
- 1:41:52~
- 1:41:52and seventy yards, five touchdowns.
- 1:41:56well. Calgary at Winnipeg.
- 1:41:59Who wants to go first? I'll let MJ go again.
- 1:42:03I suspect Zach might be coming off that six game injured list any second now.
- 1:42:08But I don't think it's gonna do anything because the stampeders
- 1:42:13are literally stampeding through the CFL
- 1:42:16Yes.
- 1:42:17right now and I'm gonna pick them.
- 1:42:18I think that's probably good. One I I didn't say this during the game,
- 1:42:21but I'll it occurs to me now I'll say,
- 1:42:23Why the hell was Drew Brown in that fourth quarter for Winnipeg?
- 1:42:26You've lost
- 1:42:27There's no reason.
- 1:42:28already, you know what he can do,
- 1:42:30you've got Elgersma there who you're trying to see if he can be
- 1:42:32a quarterback for the future,
- 1:42:33I looked and Michael Shea is like there for like another two years or something.
- 1:42:38Like they just signed him on an extension and I was like,
- 1:42:40~ no. This is not good.
- 1:42:44I'm
- 1:42:46I'm not gonna say that it's impossible that ~ Winnipeg wins this because
- 1:42:53all season they have been sort of back and forth and they've had a couple
- 1:42:56of good games both at home and away.
- 1:42:58if they play as well as they've played once or twice in this season,
- 1:43:03they could win it. But
- 1:43:06I haven't seen anything lately to make me think that.
- 1:43:08So I think the smart money has to be with Calgary and that's where I'm going.
- 1:43:13I think, you know, we saw a couple of times where,
- 1:43:16Winnipeg came out running and established the run game,
- 1:43:20and seemed unbeatable i at the start and then just couldn't finish.
- 1:43:25And I don't think that
- 1:43:27Yeah, like you're right, like the Stampeder defense is good,
- 1:43:30it's not great, but I think that the Stampeders are able to put together
- 1:43:35a full game. ~ even if VA isn't having the best game,
- 1:43:38I still think that they're the better team.
- 1:43:40So I'm picking Calgary.
- 1:43:42Okay. So we got another sweep there.
- 1:43:45And then that brings us to the last one,
- 1:43:48which is Saskatchewan and Montreal.
- 1:43:49And frankly, even as a Riders fan,
- 1:43:52I have to admit, if you look at what these two teams are doing,
- 1:43:54you look at the two games, not just on the weekend,
- 1:43:57but where it's gone, it would be a major upset for the Riders to win this.
- 1:44:02they're in Montreal. As you said,
- 1:44:04MJ, I expect Montreal will probably play the better part of their roster,
- 1:44:08at least for the first half, and then
- 1:44:11Maybe back off a bit if they've got a good lead,
- 1:44:14but I think that they're they are a far better team at this time.
- 1:44:19I think that they're going to probably win this by at least ten points because
- 1:44:25the Saskatchewan defense is is struggling when their offense can't stay
- 1:44:28on the field offense is just not scary at all.
- 1:44:31Plus, what's gonna happen with the special team?
- 1:44:35So smart money is on Montreal.
- 1:44:38I think Montreal's going to win this one.
- 1:44:40I pick Saskatchewan.
- 1:44:41true fan and I appreciate that.
- 1:44:44I am. I it's yeah,
- 1:44:46Mm-hmm.
- 1:44:46it's awful hard to not
- 1:44:48I was so mad at the Ty Cats last week.
- 1:44:51I just couldn't pick them. And then I I knew they're not gonna win.
- 1:44:55But for this game, I really do I keep thinking that the riders are gonna
- 1:45:00be better and I keep thinking that I'm underestimating them.
- 1:45:03And I think like, yeah, Harris threw four hundred and fifty yards
- 1:45:07for four touchdowns last game and still couldn't win.
- 1:45:10So I mean I know the timing and whatever,
- 1:45:13but
- 1:45:13Th still think that Montreal at home is hard to beat.
- 1:45:17And yeah, I'm gonna go with Montreal.
- 1:45:19They're at home.
- 1:45:21Okay.
- 1:45:22Right, so I think the riders are gonna get a little taste of their
- 1:45:25own medicine for ~ crowd noise.
- 1:45:27Yep.
- 1:45:29Cowbell versus Airhorn.
- 1:45:29I believe that's true.
- 1:45:31like and like s not just error like sirens.
- 1:45:35Like
- 1:45:35Yeah.
- 1:45:36Sirens.
- 1:45:37you know that okay, this is a Grey Cup rematch,
- 1:45:40and you just know Montreal at home are just gonna they're putting
- 1:45:45all their best players on, best foot forward,
- 1:45:48they are out for revenge. Have they played each other yet this year?
- 1:45:52No, so yeah, this is god I didn't think
- 1:45:52Nope. Back to back now. Yeah.
- 1:45:55so. I was like, why is it so late in the season for a Grey Cup rematch?
- 1:45:59so you know that the Aloettes have just been waiting for this game.
- 1:46:02And I
- 1:46:03After last game, they ~ it's all systems go.
- 1:46:07Yeah.
- 1:46:07I think that that's a smart assessment of where of where things are at.
- 1:46:12They are definitely teams that are heading in different directions as far
- 1:46:15as their ~ their outlook goes.
- 1:46:17And hey, by picking them, that means next week if you're wearing
- 1:46:21the Montreal jersey it's by choice.
- 1:46:22Yes.
- 1:46:23Yeah.
- 1:46:25I like Tyson Philpot. I'll wear his jersey anytime.
- 1:46:27Yes, I know. But I
- 1:46:28mean if you picked Saskatchewan and they won then there'd be somebody
- 1:46:31in your house telling you you have to wear the I'm not saying that.
- 1:46:32Hilarious you think I would pick Saskatchewan.
- 1:46:36I'm just saying you li at
- 1:46:37least you leave your your wardrobe options open for next week.
- 1:46:40Yes.
- 1:46:41if the Ticats win I'll wear my Casey Printers jersey.
- 1:46:44There
- 1:46:44we go.
- 1:46:44Yeah.
- 1:46:47Ha ha ha.
- 1:46:48Mm, let's see now. Yeah, okay.
- 1:46:51I guess we're pretty much done.
- 1:46:53Been a good episode, I think. I've enjoyed it.
- 1:46:56Thank you very much. Any closing thoughts?
- 1:46:59MJ.
- 1:47:01yeah, so CBC and CBC Gym have,
- 1:47:04let me write on Saturday night,
- 1:47:06they have the men's Canada Super 60 Cricket League final.
- 1:47:11And it's at BC Place,
- 1:47:14and I am gonna watch and learn about cricket,
- 1:47:17and I suggest you do too. It's gonna be it sounds like it's gonna be fun.
- 1:47:20and you can find me over on Instagram and
- 1:47:24And I am over always on Blue Sky at Sports and Plants.
- 1:47:28~ thank you very much. And MJ two.
- 1:47:32Yeah.
- 1:47:33Thinking of retirements, one of my favorite players,
- 1:47:36Alicia Chapman, is retiring after her next game,
- 1:47:40playing for Team Canada women's.
- 1:47:42She's a defense player, and she's one of my all-time favorite players.
- 1:47:45~ so thinking of yeah, great players leaving the leagues.
- 1:47:50So all the best to her. But yeah,
- 1:47:52if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram now at MJ's Plaid Heart,
- 1:47:58and I am posting about yeah, women's soccer,
- 1:48:00CFL, and the flame.
- 1:48:02But I don't want to talk about them because they anyway,
- 1:48:06so if you want to hang out, talk about sports,
- 1:48:08you can come find me there.
- 1:48:10Okay. And ~ I of course am available on anywhere you find other than Instagram
- 1:48:17and did we ever keep doing threads or did we drop that?
- 1:48:20Did you add that?
- 1:48:20It automatically
- 1:48:21posts the threads, but we have like two followers,
- 1:48:24one being my sister.
- 1:48:24Yeah. Okay.
- 1:48:26Yeah, I want threads.
- 1:48:28There we go. Yeah. But you're you're and you a and what's nice Yeah.
- 1:48:31Nobody nobody interacts with us on threats.
- 1:48:34What
- 1:48:34well I was gonna say what's nice about threads is you've only got like five other
- 1:48:37people to bother you. Everyone else is ignores it.
- 1:48:39Yeah. Everything else is an AI bot,
- 1:48:40Yes.
- 1:48:41so ~ yeah.
- 1:48:43But so threads
- 1:48:46officially and Instagram is for the C F L outsiders is MJ.
- 1:48:50I've got everything else if you find us anywhere.
- 1:48:52And I'm on
- 1:48:54Reddit as Oldman Shoutingcloud So check us out there.
- 1:48:58We we have lots of fun with it.
- 1:49:00And other than that, this is our thoughts for another week.
- 1:49:04It's certainly not becoming any more predictable,
- 1:49:09I don't think. The league. And and I s and I do not envy you MJ having
- 1:49:13to do the power rankings each week 'cause they can switch up in a hurry.
- 1:49:17But that's about it.
- 1:49:20So f until next week for MJ two and MJ,
- 1:49:24this is old man saying, Get the hell off my lawn