Latest / Football Junkies podcast / Ep.65: The Browns will be the Browns
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- 0:00It's Super Bowl week here folks as well as NFL honors tonight. That's right folks tonight
- 0:06We know who will be the MVP
- 0:09Offensive player of the year defensive player of the year comeback player of the year and more. Okay
- 0:15I'm letting you know right now that this is going to be a fairly short episode
- 0:21Okay, there's not a lot to really talk about. I mean the combine is still I think maybe two or three weeks away
- 0:28So we will have some stuff to you know, talk about
- 0:33In the meantime of that, okay, of course
- 0:36we're gonna you know talk about the aftermath of the Super Bowl and then you know, we'll prepare to you know get into the
- 0:42Series of talking about the offseason for everybody
- 0:44But we do have some things we have to talk about right now and that is miles Garrett has officially declared
- 0:52He wants out of Cleveland and I mean declared he doesn't want to be there no more
- 0:57He does not want to even get a whiff of Cleveland air
- 1:01okay, Cooper Cup has been informed that he will be traded this offseason and
- 1:06We have to talk about the Super Bowl. Okay all of this and more on the 65th episode of the football junkies podcast
- 1:14Okay, I am your host with the most. Okay. I'm your GM who currently is not on a team right now
- 1:20But don't you worry about it? Okay. I am your chief Bagro Domis
- 1:26Okay, anything and everything related to the bag. Okay, most importantly I am
- 1:32The GM who currently has a few mock drives that I may put out today tomorrow or maybe even Sunday don't know yet
- 1:39Depends on how I'm feeling and depends on what we're going to do with all the other content that we had to talk about
- 1:44Okay, but guess what I am all
- 1:47These things and more but most importantly the most important title that you must remember is I am your host Kale
- 1:53You already know how these things are about to go this intro might be a little bit too long
- 1:57But guess what who really cares about that because guess what we got the Super Bowl on Sunday
- 2:02Okay, the final game of football for this season. Okay
- 2:05You already know how this thing is about to go on three one, two, three. Let's lock in
- 2:35All
- 2:40Right folks
- 2:41Let's just get into the meat and potatoes of everything that is going on in the league right now
- 2:46I'm letting you guys know again. This is going to be a short episode. There's not a lot of talk about sure
- 2:53There's a bunch of speculations about this and that but we don't really care about speculations
- 2:57We want facts. Okay, and we won't know anything and we won't have any big moves coming
- 3:02Until after the combine or during the combo. So let's get into everything. All right
- 3:08I also forgot to mention that tonight they are also announcing the class
- 3:13For for the Hall of Fame
- 3:15So do I think there's gonna be somebody that's gonna be in there that everyone doesn't want probably but I wouldn't be surprised
- 3:22If Sterling Sharpe finally gets in, you know, Steve Smith finally gets in and you know players of that caliber finally
- 3:29Finally get in if Sterling Sharpe gets in there's a good chance. I might cry because Sterling Sharpe was definitely ahead of his time and
- 3:36For him to you know for his career to be cut the way that it was
- 3:42He definitely could have been regarded just as high as Jerry Rice
- 3:46If you don't believe me look at the stats, but let's just get into everything. So Myles Garrett wants out of Cleveland
- 3:53So I understand that you know, he was definitely you know in limbo about it
- 3:58I didn't expect for him to just come out and just start the process now
- 4:04Okay, not to mention he's been on a media run basically this entire week
- 4:10Like he's been on just about almost every single major
- 4:15Radio show podcast you name it he's on there and they're all asking him the same question
- 4:21What teams would you be interested going to would you go here? Would you go there all those different things?
- 4:26Okay, so before we get to that point before we start, you know throwing out predictions and whatnot
- 4:30Let's just get into the statement that he put out
- 4:33So here goes and I quote as a kid dreaming of the NFL
- 4:38All I focused on was the ultimate goal of winning a Super Bowl and that goal fuels me today more than ever
- 4:44My love for the community of Northeast Ohio and the incredible fan base of the Cleveland Browns
- 4:49Has made this one of the toughest decisions of my life
- 4:52These past eight years have shaped me into the man that I am today while I've loved calling this city my home
- 4:59My desire to win and compete on the biggest stages won't allow me to be complacent
- 5:04The goal was never to go from Cleveland to can it has always been to compete and win a Super Bowl
- 5:11With that in mind I have requested to be traded from the Cleveland Browns
- 5:15Miles Garrett in quote now, let's get into the financials. Okay, so according to spot rack
- 5:21Okay, his market value will be four years
- 5:25137.3 million dollars
- 5:27Okay, that's thirty four point three million a year when we go into the other side when we get into the the financials of what?
- 5:34The team will be inheriting wherever he goes right 2025 is nineteen point eight million
- 5:40But it's not guaranteed the same thing with the salary for 2026. It's not guaranteed as well. So
- 5:48This is what I will say on one hand. Yes. I understand where he is coming from and yes
- 5:54I understand that he realizes that hey listen
- 5:56This team is not going anywhere this team is about to go through another hard rebuild again
- 6:02And that's something that I don't want to be a part of but on the other hand if you are
- 6:06Cleveland you have to make this to happen
- 6:09Excuse me
- 6:09and the reason why I say that is because
- 6:11This is going to benefit you in the process of rebuilding because right now
- 6:16You can demand two first-round picks you can't demand three because you still have to the team still has to pay him
- 6:22You can demand two first-round picks for Miles Carey. It's very rare to have a
- 6:28Pash rusher or any player in the prime of their years playing this high and they want out
- 6:34It's very rare the last time that we can remember of a player like this in a situation like this
- 6:41Was probably Khalil Mack and we all know what happened with that situation
- 6:47So I say all that to say this the Browns are in a situation where right now you
- 6:53Have to start from the bottom
- 6:55Okay, you have to tear everything down and start from the nuts and bolts of this foundation because right now
- 7:02You are not going anywhere anytime soon
- 7:05You have people like Denzel Warhol who have already said and Miles Garret gets traded. I'm out
- 7:10You have people like Joel Betonio who have said listen if this team goes through rebuild, I'm retiring
- 7:17Players are fed up. They are tired of going through this constant cycle of being a little bit of competitive
- 7:24Maybe having a chance of making it to the playoffs and then going through rebuild and then another rebuild and then another rebuild
- 7:30Nobody wants to continue to go through rebuilds at some point. You have to be competitive
- 7:35Okay, and granted I understand the Browns put themselves in this situation because why you traded for a quarterback?
- 7:43That has not done anything since being in Cleveland the last
- 7:49Consistent year that the Sean Watson had where if we're being real here
- 7:54There were rumblings that people were considering him an MVP his last year with the Texans
- 8:00That was the last year where you can say this is a top 10 quarterback right here
- 8:05I was side of that year. He has not done anything. He has not even lived up to the contract folks
- 8:12Joe Flacco old Joe Flacco
- 8:16Knotting off going to sleep during the game
- 8:18Joe Flacco made this team more competitive and more dangerous than what the Sean Watson has ever had
- 8:26So I say all that to say this at this point most likely they're going to lose a large majority of their
- 8:34And I'm not just talking about because of free agency. No, I'm talking about trades
- 8:38I think a lot of these players are going to want out. I think they realize that listen
- 8:43I'm in the prime of my career. This team is not going anywhere. This team does not have a direction
- 8:48So there is no pointing in a place where they themselves realize that listen
- 8:54We're gonna have to wait until the Sean Watson's contract is over in order for us to be
- 9:00Somewhat competitive or at least try to be competitive until then you're in the pit
- 9:06But at the same time guess what juju was right?
- 9:09The Browns will be the Browns now
- 9:12I think a part that we do have to talk about is what are the best fits for miles Garrett?
- 9:18because at this point we all know that
- 9:22Basically almost every single AFC team is probably gonna pick up the phone and call the Browns
- 9:27Okay. Now some teams may be more serious than others and there may be other teams that are just you know
- 9:34Testing the waters is trying to see exactly. Okay, what's the asking price?
- 9:37Would you be willing to take this would you be willing to take that?
- 9:41But I do think one team that nobody is talking about that
- 9:44I think if he does goes to this team
- 9:46I think it takes them to the next level and that's the commanders and the reason why I say that is because for one
- 9:53Yes, they do have holes on their team
- 9:55but
- 9:57They're not as pressing as
- 10:00Anybody else's right? They got their quarterback. They got the receiver
- 10:04All they really have to do is this fix of the offensive line
- 10:08Probably bring in another productive receiver to go along with Terry McClellan and then fix up the defense
- 10:14That's it. That's not a whole lot of money that you have to allocate and on top of that. I think
- 10:20That if you take him out of the AFC completely and put him in the NFC
- 10:25I think you can breathe a little bit easier because I'm telling you if you keep Myles Garrett in the AFC
- 10:32He is going to wreck you
- 10:35every single matchup
- 10:38He is never going to let you forget that he is the end-all be-all when it comes to the Browns
- 10:45Okay, he's going to show you why I am one of the best Browns
- 10:49defensive players are probably one of the greatest Browns players of all time and so
- 10:55You have the commanders you have the Eagles possibly even have the Ravens
- 11:01those are only teams that I would say that
- 11:04You know, they could probably make a move for but even then when we look at all of those teams
- 11:11Most likely he would have to take less to be on those teams
- 11:15Now the question that I have for Myles Garrett is would you be willing to take less to be on a really stacked team?
- 11:23Because the Eagles cannot afford to pay you the Ravens cannot afford to pay you the money that you're looking for
- 11:30So would you be willing to take less?
- 11:33Just to be on those teams
- 11:35That is I think something that I would say is
- 11:39That is I think something that somebody on radio road has to ask
- 11:45Myles Garrett this week because I think if he answers that question, I think that automatically narrows out at least
- 11:53Maybe 50% of teams in the league right now because let's be real here the only
- 12:01Playoff teams that everybody really wants to go to is who?
- 12:04the Chiefs the Bills the Eagles and the Ravens
- 12:09those four
- 12:11Everybody else it's topsy-turvy with them. It all depends on you know, how they do in pre-agency
- 12:17How they do in the draft and all those different types of things
- 12:20But those four teams are the four teams that everybody recognizes and say those are the big fish
- 12:28Those are the big dogs
- 12:30But if Myles Garrett goes to a team like the commanders
- 12:34I think he could use his influence to bring in other players that he that he's either played with or
- 12:41Wants to play with him and they'll be willing to take less just to be on this team because I'm telling you right now folks
- 12:48I'm not saying this commander's team will win a Super Bowl in three years or whatever or be
- 12:54You know one of the greatest teams of all time. I'm not saying that but I am saying is this they have something in place
- 13:01the only thing that they was really missing this past season was a defense a
- 13:07consistent defense in a consistent pass rush if you get someone like a Myles Garrett who
- 13:13You know, we saw him being moved everywhere on the line. You saw him in the middle
- 13:18You saw him at in you saw him everywhere
- 13:20If you get someone like a Myles Garrett on that team
- 13:24It's gonna be problems. He is going to create relentless pressure on
- 13:30teams
- 13:31But let's just get into another player that we have to talk about and that is
- 13:35Cooper Cup now this one is a little bit more complicated only because last year, okay
- 13:42Around the trade deadline there were rumors going around that, you know
- 13:45The Rams were making Cooper Cup available for the right price and so, you know those things died down
- 13:51And then not too long ago
- 13:53We were you know told by Cooper Cup himself that the Rams told him that he will be traded this offseason
- 14:00He will be traded. That's what they told him
- 14:04So let's get into the quote that he put out and then we'll you know
- 14:09Go a little bit deeper into our takes and whatnot. So this is what he says and I quote
- 14:13I was informed that the team will be seeking a trade immediately and will be working with me and my family to find the right place
- 14:20To continue competing for championships
- 14:22I don't agree with the decision always believed it was going to begin and end in LA
- 14:29Still if there's I have learned over the years there are so many things are out of your control
- 14:34But it's how you respond to these things that you will look back on and remember
- 14:38I have taken so much pride in playing alongside my teammates for the LA community
- 14:43So thank you for embracing my family and making this such a special place for us
- 14:482024 began with one of the best training camps of my career
- 14:52Preparations start now for 2025 highly motivated as healthy as ever and looking forward to playing elite football for years to come
- 15:00Love you guys, but coming for it all in cool now when we look at the financials
- 15:05Okay, according to spot rack shout out to them
- 15:08Cooper Coast market value is a two-year 21.9 million dollar deal. That's only 11 million a year
- 15:14Okay. Now when we look at the financials for what the team will be inheriting
- 15:20It's 20 million, right when you look at that 20 million. You're probably thinking ah, man. That's a lot of that's a whole lot of money
- 15:26No, it's not actually five million of that 20 million is only guaranteed in
- 15:31In 2026 which is only 19.8 million that money is not guaranteed at all
- 15:39So all in all if a team does make a trade for Cooper Cup
- 15:44They're not inheriting a lot of money
- 15:46Most likely you probably will have to give him an extension or do some type of restructure to his deal. Okay
- 15:54now my only problem with this is
- 15:57Cooper Cup is a pillar for the Rams
- 16:01Okay, and this is somebody who in my mind is a one helmet guy
- 16:06It's very rare to have somebody on your team who is a one helmet guy
- 16:12And when you have a one helmet guy, you have to make sure that you keep them a one helmet guy
- 16:19I don't care if you have to do a bunch of restructures
- 16:21I don't care if you have to move some money around
- 16:24You have to make sure that you keep that person because they play such a pivotal role on the team
- 16:29I just don't like the decision all in all simply because
- 16:34Aaron Donald and
- 16:35Cooper Cup were pillars for this team
- 16:38They have been with this team through the ups and downs
- 16:42When they were competitive when they weren't competitive and when they even won the championship
- 16:47The least that you could or someone like a Cooper Cup is to allow him to make the decision for himself
- 16:53If he wants to continue to play
- 16:56With the Rams or if he just wants to walk away
- 17:00You give him that choice not you make that choice for him and granted I understand they're trying to make some moves
- 17:06They're trying to you know
- 17:07Create as much cap space as they as they possibly can because they want to retool and you know
- 17:12Help Matthew Stafford out and possibly try to make you know one more big run and I get all that but at the end of the day
- 17:19Cooper Cup plays a phenomenal role in this team and I understand that our people that are saying well
- 17:26He has been healthy in a while, you know since he won the Triple Crown and whatnot. Okay, I understand that that's that's fine
- 17:33But the fact of the matter is you cannot deny this man's greatness. This man is still
- 17:41Competitive and he is still a dog on this field
- 17:43You cannot look down on someone like a Cooper Cup because the minute that you do
- 17:48Cooper Cup is gonna mess you up
- 17:51Okay, he's great when it comes to blocking. He's a really good runner
- 17:55He's able to take away a lot of the attention away from other receivers because why?
- 18:02Cooper Cup is still that guy. I don't care what anyone says
- 18:07So Rams I would really think about you know, really getting Cooper Cup away. I really would
- 18:14Even if it means that you guys have to do a restructure you move some money around. Okay, fine
- 18:20Just do that, but you got to keep Cooper Cup
- 18:23Cooper Cup has been loyal to this team through and through the least that you can do is
- 18:28Keep him and let him in his career with the Rams now in my saying that he still has you know
- 18:35Three more elite years. No, I would say at best he probably has maybe two years and
- 18:40That's just me being very generous. I think at best he has two years and then after those two years
- 18:45Then you have to do some further examination at this point now when we look at you know best fits for him
- 18:52You know, you're gonna have the Ravens. You're gonna have the Chiefs
- 18:54You're gonna have the Eagles not the Bills the Steelers. You're gonna have a whole bunch of teams
- 19:00Any team that gets Cooper Cup is going to benefit because he doesn't have to play the wide receiver one role or the two
- 19:08He could be the three option and be a dangerous three option if we're being real here
- 19:13Not to mention as I just said, he's a really good blocker as well
- 19:17So you have someone that's like 6-2 close to 6-3
- 19:22Who can slice and dice when it comes to the route running who's able to take away?
- 19:26You know the attention from from other receivers and other offensive players
- 19:31Come on. Why wouldn't you want that on your team not to mention?
- 19:34the team
- 19:36Could probably get Cooper Cup for maybe a third maybe a fourth round pick at best
- 19:41The Rams cannot demand a first round pick for Cooper Cup
- 19:44I'm sorry if you give a first round pick for Cooper Cup you are delusional
- 19:49Okay, I wouldn't even be surprised if you wanted to go to the Chiefs
- 19:54Because even with his deal his current deal right now. It's a lot easier to work with
- 20:00Compared to this, you know this big deal that still has like three years left
- 20:05And there's large base salaries and you know dead cap hits and all those different types of things
- 20:12So I say all that to say this do I think he's going to be trading?
- 20:16Yes, but part of me believes I think they will have a conversation and I think they'll be like, you know what?
- 20:24I think we'll just let you just put it out there and let you know
- 20:27I think we'll just let you just play the rest of this deal out and then once the deal is over then we'll revisit
- 20:35Conversations and you know if you still want to play we'll grant you a release or we'll trade you wherever you want to go or
- 20:41Whatever the case may be. Okay
- 20:44That's the least that you can do for someone like a Cooper Cup. Now. Let's get into the Super Bowl. Okay. Yes
- 20:49the Super Bowl
- 20:51Yes, do I really want to watch the Super Bowl? No, not really because
- 20:55It's the Chiefs man. I'm tired of seeing the Chiefs in the playoffs. I'm gonna see somebody different
- 20:59I want to see you know, Josh Allen the Super Bowl or Lamar Jackson or Jaden Daniels or whomever
- 21:06Anybody else then the Chiefs because I am tired of seeing that red and yellow confetti fall down
- 21:12I am tired of seeing them hold up the Lombardi because man, oh man if they win this Super Bowl
- 21:19Do you know what's gonna happen?
- 21:21Do you know what's gonna happen people be like, oh man, Patrick Malone's better than Tom Brady
- 21:25No, he is not by far. He is not okay because guess what and
- 21:31Somebody asked him about this when they interviewed him a few days ago
- 21:35What is the one game that you regret and he said that Super Bowl when he faced Tom Brady and Tom Brady was
- 21:43BTA, all right
- 21:45He dismantled that Chiefs team. They didn't know what to do with themselves after that
- 21:50But let's get into some junkie nuggets that you know, definitely caught my attention
- 21:54So the Eagles have allowed a
- 21:5835.5
- 21:59Conversion rate percentage on third downs, which is the third lowest in the league. Okay now, let's go a little bit deeper
- 22:06Okay on 46 third downs in the playoffs the Eagles have allowed 20 conversions, which is at 43.5%
- 22:13So you already know this Eagles defense is really good when they need to be especially on third downs
- 22:21They pride themselves on making that big stop on third downs. So expect for that to happen
- 22:28Multiple times in this game. This game is going to be back and forth
- 22:31This is not going to be a game where it's gonna be one-sided from start to finish
- 22:35No, this is gonna be a game where the Eagles are not going to leave no stone unturned
- 22:41They are going to try to win as best as they can. Okay now, let's go a little bit deeper with the Eagles
- 22:48Okay in their last Super Bowl matchup
- 22:51Lane Johnson was the only Eagles offensive lineman to not allow a single pressure out of 42 pass blocks. Okay
- 22:59Chris Jones has generated only one pressure out of 36 pass rushes against the Eagles in their last Super Bowl matchup
- 23:07Which is the third lowest pressure rate in any postseason game since 2018 which is at 2.8%
- 23:15the Eagles in
- 23:17Some ways is the Chiefs crypt tonight in some ways
- 23:21I'm not saying completely but I'm saying in some ways they know how to minimize the effect of Chris Jones, which is
- 23:28significant
- 23:29Because we all know Spags is gonna be blitzing. We all know that Spags is gonna send corner blitz
- 23:35He's gonna send just a variety of different types of blitzes
- 23:39Okay, he's going to move Chris Jones around Chris Jones may be in the middle one play then he'll be at the end and he'll be
- 23:46Against Jordan Malata. He's just gonna be everywhere. So you have to make sure that you keep your eye on Chris Jones
- 23:52Okay on 37 carries this postseason say Kwan has gained
- 23:58344 yards, which is nine point three yards per carry
- 24:00Expect for say Kwan Barkley at some point in this game to have a big run now
- 24:06I'm not saying from the start of the game to the end of the game
- 24:09He's just gonna have you know a big run every single time he gets the ball
- 24:13No
- 24:14But what I am saying is this at some point that defense is gonna get tired and say Kwan Barkley is gonna feast
- 24:21But the number one thing I want people to remember is that the Eagles have to play their own game
- 24:27Don't try to do what the Bills did
- 24:29every single time
- 24:32They tried to play like the Chiefs. Guess what happened? They lost
- 24:35You have to run the ball successfully against the Chiefs
- 24:39If you control the time of possession if you keep okay Patrick Mahomes out of rhythm guess what you have a better chance at winning
- 24:48compared to
- 24:50Trying to go toe-to-toe blow for blow with this guy. You're not going to do that
- 24:54This is not how this offense is built. This offense is built for the run. Okay
- 25:00If you run the ball successfully if you convert on your third downs
- 25:04If you are able to put points on the board you have a fighting chance
- 25:09But the minute that you give Patrick Mahomes a little bit of wiggle room
- 25:13I'm telling you he is going to make you pay for he's done it every single time
- 25:19But this is the last junkies nugget that I want to leave for you guys
- 25:23I really want you guys to keep your eye on
- 25:26When targeting Dallas Goddard on third down Jaylen Hurts has completed 13 out of 14 passes for 240 yards
- 25:34So expect for Jaylen Hurts to use just about anybody and everybody from Dallas Goddard to AJ Brown to Devontae Smith
- 25:42He is going to use everybody at his arsenal because why this is an all hands on deck type of game
- 25:50This is not someone having a stellar game. No, this is going to be a team effort win. Okay
- 25:56Am I going to give out a score prediction? No
- 26:00I'm not doing that. I'm not putting myself through that but I'm gonna end this episode here
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