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- 0:00Hi and welcome to the Curve Weekly. The podcast that keeps you up to date with all the money,
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- 0:10and Annie shouldn't miss out just because she can't afford it. Help me, I'm poor.
- 0:15I switched to banana, my being and it's all gone all over my laptop. You are?
- 0:18I switched to banana in my bag. Oh yeah, I was liming and you're not like
- 0:24and then I went to get my laptop out and I was like, what?
- 0:27I put a banana in my bag yesterday too and a plastic bag and shoved it in my handbag.
- 0:33Oh, that's right, poor thing. It was because I always, if I take a top of wear and it's got liquid,
- 0:38it just goes everywhere. So I put that in a top where anyway, the same thing happened yesterday.
- 0:42I pulled it out of this. I went to the podcast show 2024. It's like, come I can't.
- 0:49It's like a nerdy podcast event. To be fair, it was a pretty amazing event.
- 0:53Like, so well organised, really cool speakers. I was like, do you want to remind me of remember
- 1:00like girls day out, expo? Yeah, yeah. And you get like a free nivea bomb. Yeah.
- 1:05And you get all these freebies from all the stands. Yeah, 20% off. It was like that except
- 1:12for radio and audio nerds. I was like taking all these business cards from like, AI this,
- 1:19this kind of microphone. I was like, and it was quite funny because you know how
- 1:22five, 10 years ago podcasts were pretty lame, you know, like no one listened to them.
- 1:26I also still think now people are like, oh, you just podcast? You know, like it's like a little hobby.
- 1:31Yeah, yeah. No, no, we actually make money. It's a business.
- 1:34But there were actually a lot of people at the expo talking about monetisation of podcasts.
- 1:40It's pretty hard, like a lot of podcasts don't make money. And also, okay, oh my god,
- 1:45so I went to the store. I was like texting like the whole time. I was like, I'm going to just
- 1:49met Stonso. I'm going to meet this person. I don't know who they are though, but I'm really happy
- 1:53for you. I was like, absolutely on one. So I was like sitting there. You know, Elizabeth
- 1:59Day, I'm like, I'm obsessed with her. She did this speech about, she did a talk. Oh, sorry,
- 2:05for anyone who doesn't know. I don't know. I was shocked when you were like, who is that?
- 2:12I could see you were so excited. So I was like, lean over to Emily.
- 2:16I'll bless her heart. I'll continue with her. When you say bless her heart, it makes it sound
- 2:21like she's really struggling. No, no, no. She's like such a sweet heart. She's just so cute.
- 2:25And I was like, Emily, do you know her love with Deus? She was like, no, I was like, thank goodness.
- 2:30And then we go gold and we both looked and we were like, oh yeah, she's actually a big deal,
- 2:34but anyway, she's really good friends with Dolly Alderton. Okay. So both of them are journalists,
- 2:40writers, speakers. They're hilarious. Like what I love about both of them is they speak about
- 2:46dating and love and just life as a woman in a really fun but intellectual way. They really
- 2:54challenge like, you know, side norms and yeah. And I just, I really respect the way that they
- 2:59write and speak and they're just hilarious. Anyway, I actually went to the such a thing. They're
- 3:05just hilarious. You know, the most embarrassing, basically sorry, on track. So she did this diversity
- 3:12talk where she was saying, if you look at the podcast, like the top podcast in the UK or in the
- 3:16world, it's dominated by white men. Yeah. And I don't know. I guess it wasn't really something I
- 3:23was aware of weirdly. Like I kind of, I think maybe in New Zealand, it's because we're often in
- 3:28podcasts. Like it's all a heaps of actually female podcasts in New Zealand, Australia. But I think
- 3:34in the UK and the US, it's quite different. Anyway, she was just talking about that. She knows she's
- 3:39a white female and there's obviously black voices that need to be heard. Like voices are so many.
- 3:45You know, it's not like she was recognising the fact that she's also coming from a place of
- 3:50privilege, but she was like, why are there so many old white men in the podcast charts? Anyway,
- 3:54I was sitting there listening to her and I weirdly haven't been that emotional lately. I don't know
- 4:00if it's my anti-anxiety or what it is, but I was sitting there with tears in my eyes. Just like,
- 4:05are you on your period? No. I was so inspired. I was like, you're awesome. She's so, oh my god,
- 4:12it's such a friend. Anyway, so she finished. I never seen you thank you so much. Gosh. Wait,
- 4:19guess what happened was the talk finished and I was like, I don't know what came over me,
- 4:23but I just stood up and walked like, yeah. And I kind of, it was the first talk I'd been to in
- 4:28the main stage. I didn't realise they were trying to usher celebrities off the side into the other
- 4:33room. And so if he's like, and I just stroked right up and I was like, hi, and then I sort of got
- 4:38there and had this lump in my throat and couldn't talk properly. And I was like, I just was like,
- 4:43honestly, it was on the Virgin Tears was so embarrassing. I was like, I just, I'm a budding
- 4:49Elizabeth day. And like, I was just like, oh god, I'm embarrassing. Anyway, I was trying to picture
- 4:54the podcast because she started a production company. And I was like, how cool did it be if we
- 5:00could like, you know, somehow be involved with daylight. She was like, send us an email, I'll keep
- 5:05an eye out. So I went back to my seat. I quickly was like, hi, Elizabeth, so lovely to meet you,
- 5:11like Roger Adam, immediately. And then I was like, we've had this many listens and we're all
- 5:16about this. And then I was like, wow, this is like a really great pitch. It was like passionate,
- 5:20right? Did you read it and think, yes, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I got this email back, which definitely
- 5:25wasn't from her. Like it was someone writing from her email. And it was signed off Elizabeth day
- 5:30because I saw her wandering around the expo. And you were like, you can just say, I was like, I was
- 5:38actually quite gathered. But anyway, what I was thinking is, you know, I think this is a one
- 5:42thing I've ever asked from our community. I would love to get in on the podcast. Do you think
- 5:49if we can rest her on social media, she would be like, oh my god, cool. Yeah, maybe I'm sure she'd
- 5:53be like, yeah, I'll do it to show you up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she's a great way to get
- 5:57someone on the podcast. Because we haven't she pitched her manager because when I was telling her
- 6:01about the coach, she's like, oh, I think I've heard of it. And I was like, what? How? I don't know,
- 6:06but I thought maybe when we tried to get her on through her manager, they pitched it to her.
- 6:11Maybe it's what she'd heard of it. Yeah. If anyone listening is also a fan, in fact, even if you
- 6:17don't know who she is, can you please just tag her on socials? We'll put a video up or something.
- 6:22We just need like mass social media. What is going on? And also maybe she'll feel really special.
- 6:29But if you, for a birthday present, Christmas present, could wrangle that? Could wrangle that?
- 6:35I got you a dice in here at, like get me a Elizabeth Day. Okay. I'll start now. Maybe
- 6:43about your like 40 or 50th? Fine, fine. Still be valid. Would love that. When she's not podcasting
- 6:49anymore, she's got plenty of spare time. Yeah, yeah. Although she might be podcasting for
- 6:53a month. Yeah, true. Now what's been happening in Binance News, Vic? In Binance News. So get
- 7:00old in the video. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Something in AI, right? Yes. Yep. So it's the AI post-a child. So
- 7:06they're really benefiting from all this demand in AI. Like if I think of the past week or so,
- 7:12how many times do you reckon we've said AI? A lot. Yeah. A special. And we knew bees. Yeah,
- 7:18just get the expo. See through it. Yeah. Anyway, so the issue price is now at $1,000 a share
- 7:25because they had another really, really massive, massively great result this week.
- 7:30The revenue for the first three months of the year was up 300 per cent to nearly $30 billion. Holy
- 7:38shit. Holy shit. Fucking killing it. Sorry. No, no, that's, but have you invested in then? I've
- 7:45invested in the S&P 500. So they're in there and they're coming a bigger and bigger portion
- 7:49of the S&P 500, but the bigger they get. What is their product exactly? It's like AI computing
- 7:54chips effectively. Like the founder. So it's still run by the founder, which is also crazy. So it's
- 8:00now a $2.6 trillion company. How long's it been around? So he started in 1993. Oh, my God. So it's
- 8:08like 30 something years old. Yeah. No hold on. What were they doing for AI? So they were doing
- 8:12certain types of chips. And then he found this new way of like creating a computing chip that
- 8:16was like, Oh, God, this is going to be game changing. And then he was like, Oh, God, I've made
- 8:22this chip that's like super, super great. Anyway. And so he was like, right, okay, this is going
- 8:25to change the world. And then everyone kind of launched on the AI bandwagon and his chips with
- 8:30the superior ones. So everyone was demanding his chips. So this is how it's started. I kind of
- 8:35honestly, you know, when people even like celebrities or artists would ever become overnight successes.
- 8:42The video feels like one of those, but they've obviously been around for like three decades.
- 8:46And this is why it's like, hold your stuff for a long haul. Because it's true. It's like,
- 8:54things don't happen overnight. But anyway, if you were to get a tattoo, would it be
- 9:00whole for the long term? Yeah. How much would I need to pay you to get a tramp stamp that
- 9:05says something like that, like a Warren Buffett quote? If you paid me $100,000, I would do it.
- 9:11Holy shit. Let's crowd source. I'm literally going to start. Go find me. Imagine if you
- 9:18got a $100,000 though, and I'd put it straight back into the business. Okay. Perfect. Definitely
- 9:22deal. You don't want to just keep it for yourself. I mean, so I'm a loser for me. What are you going to
- 9:29get? I'll get it shines here always around my bum hole. Wow. Okay. Right. We always go from
- 9:39finance to the most seriously. Give me a finance one. I'll get a finance tattoo if we raise
- 9:44$100,000. We can put it in our curve bank account. Oh, yeah. Okay. What should I get? I'll do
- 9:50anything. Anything. Yeah. Okay. We can bring it on that. Yeah. So the founder, he saw
- 9:56in three and a half percent of the video. So he is now worth $90 billion. For three and a half
- 10:03percent. Yeah. He does a tiny bit of a massive company. There's still a massive amount. Yeah,
- 10:08that's tiny. But I reckon he's sitting there wishing he probably hadn't given so much away.
- 10:11You know, imagine if he owned a hundred percent. Sorry. How much is his, what's his net worth?
- 10:1590 billion. I just think sometimes when you get over a million, I can't comprehend. I know. Yeah.
- 10:20Like 90 billion. Like what even is one billion? But yeah. So he has fortune through seven billion
- 10:27in one day. Is this from this? Yeah. From the result last week. I wonder what he did with that.
- 10:31Surely you sell out at that point? No. It's a bad sign to investors.
- 10:36CEO is selling. You're like, oh God. But anyway, yes, it's interesting because now you actually have
- 10:42Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, all those big companies designing their own chips or trying to get into the
- 10:47chip game. Shame. They're going, hang on a second. What's his name? What's his name?
- 10:55Yeah. Jinseng Kuang. Can we go all in? Yeah. He was like, leather jacket. He's cool. How old is he?
- 11:0161. Shit. Yeah. Love him. So who's 30 when he started this business? Yeah.
- 11:05There he is. Oh, he looks cool. Yeah. He looks like a Steve Jobs get on the stage and like sell my
- 11:11company to the world. You know. Anyway, they also announced. So they should price at $1,000 now,
- 11:16which is quite hard for a lot of people to buy one here. You don't have a thousand US dollars. So
- 11:20they also announced a team for one stock. But is it a green flag or a red flag? So it's a green flag.
- 11:28It's a green flag because in the olden days, back in the day, they used to do stock splits. So
- 11:35say in a video's share price was like $500. But lots of people couldn't afford $500. They would
- 11:43split the stock so it would be accessible for more people. But now you can buy smaller fractions
- 11:48of shares on like DIY platforms like Shazies and blah, blah, blah. But I don't understand why
- 11:54they're still doing it. But you can't like a lot of people can't buy fixed fractional shares.
- 12:00Like there's a lot of countries you can't that's not possible. So also like corporate investors
- 12:05or like institutional investors, they don't use platforms like Shazies. They have to go and
- 12:08also for employees like if we were to give our employees stock and you could only do it in
- 12:15thousand increments. Yeah. Right. You know. So it's just like it's like easier to. So it's basically
- 12:21but it's having a piece of cake and then crumbling it up and then giving it to more people.
- 12:25Yeah. You still get the same amount of cake as one piece, but it's in lots of crumbles.
- 12:30No, you wouldn't get the same size because if you've broken it up, you don't get a type of
- 12:34that's not very good analogy then. No, in terms of the stock split. So from an investor's point
- 12:39of view, there's no difference. If you owned $10,000 of NVIDIA and they did a stock split,
- 12:44you still have $10,000 in NVIDIA. They're just the makeup would be different.
- 12:47So it's like having the same piece of cake, but it's been cut in a different way.
- 12:50Yeah, it's been cut into four pieces, but you've still got the same amount. Yeah.
- 12:53Yeah, yeah. We got there. We got there. But companies only do it when the share price is done
- 12:58so well because the share price has gone up and up and up and up and they're like, oh gosh,
- 13:01it's too expensive now. We need to bring it back down in terms of the share price. So it's a good
- 13:05sign. That's why it's a green flag as well because it's usually you wouldn't do a stock split if
- 13:09your share price had gone from $100 to $1.00. You're not then splitting it to $0.10.
- 13:14Yeah, there's no point. Yeah. So yes, but his commentary was super positive. He was like,
- 13:20AI is changing the world, all of this. We're in the next industrial revolution.
- 13:24The kind of stuff. I feel like it's like the invention of the iPhone or the phone.
- 13:27All of it again. Yeah. Like maybe not in their scene, but in terms of the internet, massive.
- 13:32But I do feel like AI is this next enormous giant change that's going to change
- 13:38the way we do everything. Yeah. No, definitely. And I'm not sure if I'm like terrified or excited
- 13:42by it. I'm trying to jump on the excited bandwagon. So speaking to this really cool girl,
- 13:47I met her yoga studio. I'm going to say the podcast conference. No, no. No, but she was saying
- 13:53because she's working tech over in the States. Yeah. And I said, gosh, it's so weird. I was at this,
- 13:59oh yeah. Oh my god, you let it go. And at band camp, we do it at the expo. There was an AI chat.
- 14:07I looked around and it was all guys. I was like, oh god, guys are, and someone else
- 14:11had said to me, you know, men are adopting AI much more than women are. And I was talking to
- 14:16this girl I met at the yoga studio. She was saying, I'm not keen to get on board the AI bandwagon
- 14:22because even though you could get diversity now, she's like, who created AI? So like how much
- 14:28control are you going to have from now onward in terms of like the perspective it was created
- 14:33was from a white man. It was just an interesting perspective for us. I was like, oh shit,
- 14:37that's quite a good call. And disproportionately, women are probably more affected in terms of the
- 14:42job losses because we are overrepresented in like roles that are admin assistants or office
- 14:48assistants. All of those jobs, which are more high risk of terms of being redundant from AI.
- 14:53Do you know what I heard the other day? Guys talking about part-time work as a frictional job.
- 14:59Have you heard that? And apparently they all start, like they've started calling part-time work
- 15:04frictional work because it like sounds a bit more chic than part-time and like, you know, part-time
- 15:10mums or whatever. I was like, mother fuck. Why is that bad? You just decided that your part-time work
- 15:19is more fucking annoying than a woman's part-time work. So we're calling it frictional working.
- 15:24I was like, nah, yeah, not getting around it. No, no, fair enough.
- 15:28Yes, so that's all I had on Nvidia. I thought you were saying it's all I had. I was like, that was
- 15:32one thing. No, still going on that AI discussion. I think you could flip that on its head. And if you
- 15:40were say a university student right now and you were like, what should I study? Like, you would be
- 15:46wanting to study like coding and AI and like, those are the jobs that are going to be such high
- 15:51demand in the future. And like, there's a crazy stat. So in the UK, companies are climbing
- 15:57over themselves to get people with AI skills. Like, even think of us. We're like, who can we
- 16:01talk to about getting AI in the business? And we actually spoke to something the other day.
- 16:05And I was like, well, if this is shit, we'll just talk about it on the podcast. Yeah, he was like,
- 16:09okay, okay, I'll do a good job. I promise. But, you know, like, people can sell you stuff when you
- 16:12get mail consultants. I know. Sorry, that was moody. But it was more just the idea that like,
- 16:18you're paying all this money. You don't, because we don't understand AI, we're like, cool, we'll pay
- 16:2315,000 for this. But you don't know really. I think just like the way that lots of industries are
- 16:29very, the lingo and the language is so hard to understand on purpose so that you can sell it to
- 16:34other people. And I was kind of just like, is this worth it? Like, you don't know until we've done it.
- 16:38But also, I think not embracing it could be even more detrimental to the business.
- 16:44Everyone will play catch up. And everyone will be way more advanced. And you'd be, you'd be the one
- 16:47sitting there being like, come on, why didn't I do that earlier? So we're confirming the
- 16:51closures that little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're just having a little business meeting on the
- 16:55podcast. Yeah. What are the gender issues? Anyway, so yes, people with AI skills can earn 14% more
- 17:04than their peers. Really? They're in such high demand. Yeah. Yeah. And in the US,
- 17:10it can be up to 25% more if you've got skills in AI. I reckon it's similar to social media. You
- 17:15know how like, sorry to anyone that's like over the edge of 50 listening to this. We love you.
- 17:21But I must say, you know, when you're in a position of like feeling a little bit like you've not
- 17:26missed the boat, like I felt like this TikTok, for example, still do. But I feel like there's with
- 17:33AI it's similar, like you can lean out or you can lean it. Yeah. And like a lot of people will just
- 17:39because social media is so hard to understand if you've never done it. Yeah. It's easy to be like,
- 17:43I'll just pay you can you do it. Yeah. But actually learning and constantly learning is great. Yeah.
- 17:50Yeah. No, definitely. There's also an interesting article I saw. And I think we're going to see more
- 17:55and more of this is that chat GPT, so open AI who wants to chat GPT, approach scholarship
- 18:02to Hanson and was like, Hey, can we use your voice? They're creating an AI system.
- 18:06This was at the expo. No. Yes, that they can use your voice and basically make you say anything.
- 18:13Yeah. And I was like, holy shit, like how are you meant to imagine if someone's made something
- 18:18up that you said and it sounded like you. Yeah. Well, that was like, there was a whole lot of
- 18:21fraud cases where people were stealing using AI to replicate children's voices. That's right.
- 18:26Calling their parents, being like, ham and trouble, like, which is fucking horrible. But yeah,
- 18:31so their approach scholarship had someone like, Hey, can we use your voice as it's kind of like a
- 18:34sorry, like we use your voice for that. Because she was in that movie during the years.
- 18:38Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And she was effectively, that was like way before. It was quite random.
- 18:41Yeah. I feel like it was a bad movie. Yeah. I was like, where is this going? Yeah. Anyway.
- 18:45So and she was like, no. And then they released the AI product. It sounded exactly like her.
- 18:52And now she's fighting them, saying you use my voice and she didn't know we didn't.
- 18:57We've used and like, how do you, how do you even fight that? I've seen this on socials.
- 19:01I've seen it being like the scary truth of that. I didn't actually read the article.
- 19:05But yeah. So I think it's going to be quite interesting. The lawsuits that are going to come out
- 19:11from it. Because you're also, it's a company like open AI owns the company that own the AI
- 19:17products. Therefore they're liable. I don't know. I feel like it's going to be so many cases.
- 19:22Who's that stupid though? Like if someone like Scarlett Johansson says no, you can't use
- 19:27my voice. Well, they say that they didn't. That's what I mean. I bet they didn't.
- 19:30Because you wouldn't be stupid enough to do that. Yeah.
- 19:33Would you or a giant company? It's going to be public news. Or maybe you do it on purpose.
- 19:37But it's like how different? How different does the product need to be for it not to be similar?
- 19:41It's like clothing. You know, I could fully copy that grain shirt and put a little button or
- 19:46a little stitch. And then it's not, I haven't copied it. You know, it's like how different
- 19:51does something have to be. Anyway, if you're looking for a profession, if you're sitting there,
- 19:55is a young adult looking for a new profession? I reckon you just have to know the youth of today.
- 20:02I reckon an AI lawyer. They would have been hands full.
- 20:06Oh, I'm joking. I'm joking. What else is happening there?
- 20:09Other things live nation. So there's been an update there. So, you know, the whole
- 20:13Taylor Swift saga, how she released her tickets on ticket master. So live nation has ticket master.
- 20:19Suora. Yeah. And there was a whole falafel.
- 20:22Falafel? It was a delicious falafel.
- 20:27What was I trying to say?
- 20:29You trying to say kebab.
- 20:35Oh my god. It was a falafel. So good.
- 20:45Oh my god.
- 20:47Wow. So let's talk to anyone through who missed the falafel. What was happening?
- 20:54The ticket was a falafel was that live nation owns ticket master. And Taylor Swift went to
- 20:59sell the tickets. So the era is to her. And there was a whole breakdown in the system in terms of
- 21:06the whole site effectively broke down. And then there was people.
- 21:09That's right. She promised her that there'd be no issues. They could handle the demand.
- 21:14And then they couldn't. And they've got the biggest monopoly on the entertainment ticket
- 21:18sales industry in terms of the like 40% market share. Like if she couldn't really have gone
- 21:22with anyone else. So she said, make sure she doesn't have an anyway.
- 21:25Did then there was this whole drama of the fact she couldn't sell them through anyone else.
- 21:29So it was on a fact she could go. So anyway, back in 2010,
- 21:34ticket master and live nation merged together. And they promised the US government that they would
- 21:39compete in a nice way in terms of with other competitors. They wouldn't hold such a dominant
- 21:46position effectively. And now they've kind of gone back on their word and they've stifled a lot
- 21:51of competition. They're kind of getting too big for their boots. So the US government is now
- 21:56suing them for antitrust or anti-competition behavior. So yeah. So it looks like there will be a
- 22:02break up of ticket master and live nation, which is not, which is like, I don't know, force
- 22:07break up is. So sorry, ticket master is owned by live nation. Yeah. So what does that mean if
- 22:12they separate? So it just means that they will become two super companies. And why is that about
- 22:16that? To create more competition. Oh, yeah. So it's kind of like they've just got too big and too
- 22:20big to it. Oh, I didn't realize that that was like, right. So live nation is a ticket place.
- 22:25So it's ticket master and it's owned by the same people. Yeah. The whole thing. Yeah.
- 22:29Obviously. Yes. Yes. But how is it if it's owned by the same people? Isn't that still the same
- 22:35thing? Or is it a knowledge? Yeah. What was the difference? And it being...
- 22:39Well, it would become two public companies. So they might be owned by the same people.
- 22:42They'll be owned by the public, if that makes sense. Yeah. And they'll have different.
- 22:45We've in new streams, different customers, different like all of that.
- 22:50So it would be like, if we had the blurb and we in that was like, you know, another financial
- 22:55platform that we had. Yeah. And it was just so successful. Yeah. And they were like, you have to divide
- 23:00and conquer. So it would be like, the blurb would be over here. The curve would be over here.
- 23:03And we would have to have separate stuff, separate strategies. It would be like, if we merged
- 23:08with Stephen Bartlett, Elizabeth's down, like all the top podcasts and created this massive
- 23:14podcast media company. And then there was no room for me. Dominated Spotify lessons. And no one
- 23:21else could get their new podcast and the podcast in. Then yes, the government could come and be like,
- 23:25hang on now, you guys, you're too, you're too big. We shouldn't let you merge in the first place.
- 23:30Sorry. It's crazy that government even has a saying of that. There's huge discussions that
- 23:34moment about it, particularly in Australia with like supermarkets, they have like what you call
- 23:38like an oligopoly or duopoly because there's like, there's only few companies. So it's not one
- 23:42company, but it's two. And all of them, they own like, well, worth count down, pack and save,
- 23:49new one, like two big Australian companies. And so they have a lot of pricing power. So they're
- 23:56like, you know, if count down is selling milk for four dollars, the other companies get
- 24:04to sell it for four dollars. If they increase it to five, well, of course, they're going to increase
- 24:06it to five. They can get more revenue. You know, so it's like this. So they're trying to break them up.
- 24:10And in the little corner, for huge shops, just have no, yeah. So there is a place for competition.
- 24:17And there's a whole discussion around it as well with all the big tech companies, like Google
- 24:21is getting so massive. Isn't Amazon the same? Meta, Amazon, like meter in social media,
- 24:26getting way too massive. Like, there's just like so many discussions around it. And they just
- 24:30get bigger as well. You can just buy the small people. Just eat them up. You know, I like Facebook
- 24:35bought Instagram. Yeah. You know, that could have been a hugely successful business right now. Yeah.
- 24:40Can you please Google the worth of, oh, I'll look it up. Of Instagram now. Of Instagram?
- 24:44So it's estimated to be worth about four billion dollars. And it was sold for one billion.
- 24:50Yeah. So four times the money in 14 years. But still one billion is pretty enormous. Yeah.
- 24:56Yes. So I'm just thinking we're already over half an hour.
- 25:00No, I was going to finish on something I wasn't going to use, but yeah, yeah.
- 25:05Do you want to finish on something else? Non-finance related?
- 25:10She's like, I actually don't talk about anything but money.
- 25:14If you have any suggestions of what Sof could get tattooed on her.
- 25:17Oh, yeah. Just leave it in the comments. That'd be great. Thanks.
- 25:20Yeah. Very helpful. Yeah. On socials or in the podcast notes.
- 25:23Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.
- 25:25I'm going to approach some tattoos so long as I see one.
- 25:27Oh, my God. Imagine if we actually, I would get it mainly because it's a pretty funny story.
- 25:32Yeah.
- 25:33Except could we get it lower than our bikini bottom line so that it's not visible in togs?
- 25:38That would be my only request. Yeah.
- 25:40Maybe I'll get it like on the sole of my foot.
- 25:41No, no. We've already agreed to trim stands.
- 25:43Okay. Oh, gosh.
- 25:45I don't know. Surely it's...
- 25:48Maybe we'll let the community do so.
- 25:49I wish we'd get it.
- 25:50And don't even I'll look please.
- 25:51Please just say no. We're, please say no. We're, please say no.
- 25:53Please say stopping those stupid guys.
- 25:55Anyway. Yes.
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