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Dragnet: The Big Mailman (EP4773) · The Great Detectives Present Dragnet (Old Time Radio)

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  Speaker 1: fifty one, here is the Big Mailman.
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  Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true, only
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  Speaker 2: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
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  Speaker 2: a detective sergeant. You're assigned to forgery detail. Now United
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  Speaker 2: States Postal Inspector comes to your office. You'll receive the
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  Speaker 2: same complaints he has. Somebody is stealing mail in your city.
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  Speaker 2: Your job help get.
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  Speaker 3: Him drag Net The document a drama of an actual crime.
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  Speaker 3: Well the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Police Department, you will travel step by step on
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  Speaker 3: the side of the law through an actual case transcribed
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  Speaker 3: from official police files, from beginning to end, from crime
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  Speaker 3: to punishment, Dragnet is the story of your police force
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  Speaker 3: and action.
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  Speaker 4: It was Monday, March third, was reigning in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 5: We were working the day Watch out of forgery detail.
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  Speaker 5: My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Harry Elliott.
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  Speaker 5: My name's Friday was seven forty five am when I
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  Speaker 5: got to Room twenty nine forgery detail.
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  Speaker 4: Marten Jill Hi Ben Sure coming down out there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Look at this code soken. Is that the same trench
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  Speaker 4: coat that English one?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Ever since I had it cleaned, it seems to soak
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  Speaker 4: up the water a little more. Does it leak? Oh no,
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  Speaker 4: it just seems to take on a little more water,
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  Speaker 4: keeps me dry. Got something to show you, Joe.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, remember that old raincoat of mine used to leak
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  Speaker 7: up through the seams over the shoulders.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they could look at this what you got there?
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  Speaker 7: Pretty neat. Huh yeah, what is it? My new raincoat?
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  Speaker 7: Never know what you're small? Compact?
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  Speaker 4: The whole thing's hardly any bigger impact of cigarette?
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  Speaker 6: No bad? Huh Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: What'd you get it?
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  Speaker 7: Wife bought it for me. Amy says it's regged to
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  Speaker 7: full sized raincoat says forty long.
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  Speaker 4: Amy says, so didn't you try it on?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know you know how they make something like this.
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  Speaker 7: It's made out of plastic. Size isn't too important. Just
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  Speaker 7: plain coat, slipped right on over your suit, just like
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  Speaker 7: any other raincoat. I know it a fan. You haven't
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  Speaker 7: worn it, shetow No, it hadn't started rain and I
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  Speaker 7: left him?
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  Speaker 4: Could I see that?
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  Speaker 6: Sure?
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  Speaker 7: Real compact, isn't it now? Something like this is really practical.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: A little package like that you carried around with you
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  Speaker 7: all the time every day, company room and tall.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? What's it looked like?
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  Speaker 7: Just like that little pouts here, same stuff. It's transparent,
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  Speaker 7: you know, regular plastic.
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  Speaker 4: Could we look at it? Inside it? Okay, let's see
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  Speaker 4: we're here.
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  Speaker 6: You better do it.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, well I just done zip it here? You jowish compact,
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  Speaker 7: didn't it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: There we go? Look there, Joe all folded up nice
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  Speaker 7: and knee Joy's light weight too, plastic's great in fine,
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  Speaker 7: you know. Now we go full size rank coat. See, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: it's fine. Never know if full size coat is going
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  Speaker 7: anything like that little pouts there would is no bigger
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  Speaker 7: than tobacco part. Yeah that's pretty good. You know what,
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  Speaker 7: try it on, Joe. Never know you had anything on
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  Speaker 7: showys light and nice?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see.
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  Speaker 7: Now we just put it back into the pouchs till
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  Speaker 7: I'm ready for it.
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  Speaker 4: I say.
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  Speaker 7: Now, color goes up, one folds in lock theirs. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 7: that isn't right. Goes this way. Let's put it down
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  Speaker 7: on the table.
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  Speaker 4: That'll be better.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's better. Now here we go. Now we
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  Speaker 7: fold the arms in here. Now the bottom part comes
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  Speaker 7: up this way.
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  Speaker 6: Now we fold it over and again he's in it.
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  Speaker 7: Just follow the crease marks in your home, Joe. Yeah, now,
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  Speaker 7: if you don't have me that little pouch.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there you go.
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  Speaker 7: Well, thank you. Now, no, I yuess that's too big.
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  Speaker 7: Well we'll make one more folding guy. Yeah, well it's
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  Speaker 7: small enough this way, but it's too fat in You.
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  Speaker 4: Better watch it there.
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  Speaker 6: You're gonna tear that little sack it's funny.
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  Speaker 4: I fold it right over the old creases there too,
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  Speaker 4: fat in Welcomen't you just carry it in your pocket
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  Speaker 4: like that without the pouch. Sure, that's it. Flip in
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  Speaker 4: my coat pocket? No, No, that won't do, George boys,
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  Speaker 4: just right out.
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  Speaker 7: It's kind of spring jumps out like a piece of
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  Speaker 7: pongee self. Yeah it seems to well, it's still light
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  Speaker 7: weight and easy to hand. I'm sure easy to carry
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  Speaker 7: you just like that? Yeah, well made little thoughts. Seems
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  Speaker 7: a shame not to be able to use it.
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  Speaker 4: You smoke a pipe? No, you know that, just cigarette.
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  Speaker 4: I'll find some use for it. Probably one hundred things.
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  Speaker 7: A fellow could use a little dogs like for if
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  Speaker 7: I could just think of them, right all, Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't Romero. You want to step in here from it? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Kevin?
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  Speaker 6: You fellows?
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  Speaker 7: No, inspect the Smith Post Office department.
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  Speaker 4: Sure are good to see you.
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  Speaker 6: Little How you doing, Jill So, No, thank you, yes
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  Speaker 6: very much.
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  Speaker 7: Inspector Smith's over here on that mail thiep case that
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  Speaker 7: we've been walking up.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did you receive those reports we sent over
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  Speaker 4: to there yesterday?
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  Speaker 6: No, I haven't been to the office yet. Came straight
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  Speaker 6: over here.
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  Speaker 5: Burglar returned it over to us yesterday afternoon. Ben and
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  Speaker 5: I ran it down. Seems to us like it might
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  Speaker 5: fit in somewhere here.
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  Speaker 6: Miller and Ash and I've probably got your reports now.
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  Speaker 6: I was just going to call in. Do you mind
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  Speaker 6: filling me on it?
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  Speaker 7: Apartment house over and over landlad reported the theft a
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  Speaker 7: part of a mail box out there.
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  Speaker 5: And somebody stole a master panel off the front of
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  Speaker 5: the community mailbox at the apartment house.
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  Speaker 4: Figure it must have happened sometime during the night.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I believe we got something on that too.
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  Speaker 6: A postman on the route reported.
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  Speaker 7: And that's how he's getting into the mailbox and steals
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  Speaker 7: the front panel, makes the key for himself, and then
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  Speaker 7: he's in business. Guy like, whereafter could put a key
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  Speaker 7: like that? The good use for a great many different
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  Speaker 7: mailboxes round town.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the same mo. We've been on this guy
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  Speaker 6: for a long time. He pulled the same thing down
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  Speaker 6: in San Diego, was knocking down about two thousand dollars
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  Speaker 6: a month, then he laid out. Now he's at it
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  Speaker 6: again up here in la.
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  Speaker 5: As you know, we've been getting reports of the thefts
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  Speaker 5: and the passing of the checks about ten days ago.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, we've got five checks passed.
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  Speaker 5: By this same thief. According to handwriting analysis. We know
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  Speaker 5: it's the same guy.
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  Speaker 7: Talk to the victims and the bank tellers description of
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  Speaker 7: the guy seems to tell.
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  Speaker 4: You with what you people have on him. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 4: just one thing we haven't been able to piece out yet.
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  Speaker 6: What's that?
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  Speaker 1: Yo?
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  Speaker 4: But when he steals a check, how does he know
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  Speaker 4: what bank to pass it on?
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  Speaker 6: I think we got the answer to that one.
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  Speaker 5: Well, let's say that he steals a letter. We know
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  Speaker 5: he doesn't only hit the community mailboxes. Sometimes he goes
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  Speaker 5: to a private residence fishes the letters right out of
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  Speaker 5: the mail slots.
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  Speaker 6: In that case, Yeah, some kind of a gimmick he
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  Speaker 6: gets down in those slots with it.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we figure LEO. But we'll say after he's
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  Speaker 4: got a letter with a check in it, and now
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  Speaker 4: it's easy enough for.
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  Speaker 5: A good forger to put an endorsement on it, But how.
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  Speaker 4: Does he know what branch of the bank to pass
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  Speaker 4: it on.
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  Speaker 6: Well, sometime or other he's stealing bank statements as well.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe he's just lucky at the time he steals a check.
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  Speaker 6: There's other mail in the box too, victims' bank statements.
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  Speaker 7: Well, as far as that goes, I suppose he's stolen
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  Speaker 7: more than once from the same party. He could probably
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  Speaker 7: get away with bank statements easy.
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  Speaker 6: That's it. People never seem to report anything missing in
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  Speaker 6: the mails until weeks after it's happened. It's easy to
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  Speaker 6: see why.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not sure anything's wrong until they wait several days.
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  Speaker 7: They don't want to bother us in the case of
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  Speaker 7: anything routine like monthly bank statements, and in the case
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  Speaker 7: of a check will sometimes it's from a relative or
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  Speaker 7: someone who owes the money, and they don't want to
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  Speaker 7: embarrass him by writing or calling to find out about it.
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  Speaker 5: And I suppose in the case of anything like a
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  Speaker 5: dividend check. We've got a couple of those leo, but
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  Speaker 5: people who lose.
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  Speaker 4: Them just don't think it's time for him to arrive yet,
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  Speaker 4: so they just wait. Huh.
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  Speaker 6: That's it, and that's why it's been so successful. Plus
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  Speaker 6: the fact that it takes about a week for any
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  Speaker 6: kind of check to be process through center clearing at
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  Speaker 6: any bank and then to the bank, wouldn't necessarily know
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  Speaker 6: that anything was wrong at that time.
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  Speaker 7: Until the bank receives a complaint from the party who
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  Speaker 7: missed the check. They couldn't have any way of knowing
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  Speaker 7: that anything was wrong.
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  Speaker 6: That's right.
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  Speaker 7: Tell him what you were telling me this morning, Leo. Well,
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  Speaker 7: you people aren't in it deep enough to know this yet.
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  Speaker 6: But this guy's been hitting the same branch bank maybe
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  Speaker 6: two three times in a row. Not here in La Heading, No,
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  Speaker 6: not yet. It looks to us like he's just started
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  Speaker 6: up his operations here in town. That's the way he
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  Speaker 6: worked it down in San Diego.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's easy enough to figure if he got a
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  Speaker 5: teller in some bank to go along with him, someone
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  Speaker 5: who didn't suspect him, and since the victims reported so light,
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  Speaker 5: he could get away with it at least that many
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  Speaker 5: times at the same bank.
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, if people report missing mail immediately, to make
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  Speaker 6: it a lot tougher for the thief.
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  Speaker 7: The last name and I'm still good Hobby Fletcher, that's
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  Speaker 7: what we're going on. Yeah, you've got bulletins out to
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  Speaker 7: all the banks carrying that description on him.
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  Speaker 6: And he changed alien. The WMA average build hundred and
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  Speaker 6: fifty hundred and sixty pounds, gray eyes about thirty two
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  Speaker 6: to thirty five. Well, addressed carryings a briefcase like of personality.
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  Speaker 6: That's all we got on Oh there's a little something
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  Speaker 6: we picked up yesterday from a bank teller. She told
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  Speaker 6: us the man had long sideburns. For what it's worth,
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  Speaker 6: you might.
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  Speaker 5: Add that, Okay, Don Myers and handwriting his check through
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  Speaker 5: his files.
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  Speaker 4: Lee.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, they haven't got anything on him, and the stats
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  Speaker 5: office hasn't been able to make him on his m own.
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  Speaker 6: And we know you people are doing everything you can
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  Speaker 6: for us. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: I wish we could do more. Name Harvey Fletcher. Of
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  Speaker 4: the five checks that we've got on the guy.
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  Speaker 5: According to handwriting analysis on him, he's only used that
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  Speaker 5: name once. Rest of the time he signs the same
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  Speaker 5: last name as the pay's name on the face of
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  Speaker 5: the check.
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  Speaker 7: He passes himself off as a brother or husband or
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  Speaker 7: some relation to the rightful pay.
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  Speaker 6: That's what's taking in all those bank tellers. Plus a
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  Speaker 6: smooth personality. It's cool, collected, all the confidence in the world.
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  Speaker 6: Ye know, figures, and we got one day before yesterday
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  Speaker 6: with a little different twist. He's going to help us
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  Speaker 6: any but here's the way he's working it. In some
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  Speaker 6: cases deposits a large check to the victim's account, then
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  Speaker 6: he only takes out a small portion in cash, throws
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  Speaker 6: a tellers off even more.
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  Speaker 7: Here's mos fun the stats, Leo. That's his copies of
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  Speaker 7: the last five checks that we got on the day.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, thanks, her Maya says, they're all in the
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  Speaker 7: same handwriting. Is there anything else we can do for you, Leon?
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  Speaker 7: We've got all the banks in the area covered, got
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  Speaker 7: bulletins out on them. That's fine. I don't think we've
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  Speaker 7: overlooked anything. Patrol units have been a learned well.
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  Speaker 5: His latest stuff to that mailbox panel. It's too bad
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  Speaker 5: we can't localize his operations a little, Leo.
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  Speaker 7: Didn't you say that if he makes a key, that
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  Speaker 7: key would fit any number of boxes in the city.
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  Speaker 7: We couldn't pin him down to one neighborhood, could we.
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  Speaker 6: That's right, That key will work on different mail routs.
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  Speaker 6: He probably knows the neighborhood around Alvarado is hot. Now
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  Speaker 6: he'll leave it alone anyway.
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  Speaker 7: It's impossible to stake him out on the actual thefts
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  Speaker 7: of the mail. It's too bad we can't get to
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  Speaker 7: him through one of the banks when he cashes him.
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  Speaker 6: Oh your man, par and ours put together couldn't cover
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  Speaker 6: all the banks in LA at one time, But we've
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  Speaker 6: been spot checking throughout the city, hoping maybe to tab him.
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  Speaker 7: Just by luck, we might get a break from one
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  Speaker 7: of our bulletins. Maybe some tellos.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'm not sure yet. That's one of the reasons
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  Speaker 6: I came over here this morning. But maybe we've got
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  Speaker 6: a little something. What's that Well Bank out in Westwood
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  Speaker 6: phoned us yesterday. Teller thought she recognized the guy from
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  Speaker 6: his description. Didn't dawn on her till after the guy
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  Speaker 6: left her window. She rushed out in time to get
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  Speaker 6: the license number of his car.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's a break.
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  Speaker 6: Huh, Yeah, it looks pretty good. The check was drawn
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  Speaker 6: on the account of a William E. Scott. That's the
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  Speaker 6: number two victim here in LA. That's right, you've got
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  Speaker 6: the photos out of his checks right there. Yeah, I know. Well,
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  Speaker 6: everything seems to fit. This check he passed yesterday out
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  Speaker 6: and Westwood was probably stolen at the same time as
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  Speaker 6: the first one, or at least it came from this
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  Speaker 6: Scott's mailbox that we know.
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  Speaker 7: Or didn't this William Scott report the theft of two checks.
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  Speaker 7: I know he didn't do us. Maybe he did to you, No, he.
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  Speaker 6: Didn't, said he couldn't be sure. He gets quite a
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  Speaker 6: few checks through the mail, owns a lot of stock,
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  Speaker 6: gets dividends.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and probably doesn't know when they come each month.
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  Speaker 6: That's right. He didn't miss the first one until it
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  Speaker 6: was way overdue. Might even be others missing, he doesn't
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  Speaker 6: know for sure yet.
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  Speaker 5: Well, anyway, he's positive on this latest one out in
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  Speaker 5: Westwood that the bank teller caught h sure.
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  Speaker 6: As soon as the bank manager called him, he knew
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  Speaker 6: he hadn't authorized anybody to cash any of his checks.
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  Speaker 6: The mos. Well, that's what's kind is going on. It
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  Speaker 6: looks real good, smooth operator deposited part of the money,
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  Speaker 6: took the balance in cash. The major switch in his
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  Speaker 6: operation was the fact that he didn't go to the
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  Speaker 6: victims regular bank as he did on that first check.
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  Speaker 6: That sounds good. I mean, we kind of think so.
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  Speaker 6: That's the reason I came over here this morning, Conway
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  Speaker 6: are handwriting man thinks it's the same as the guy
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  Speaker 6: we're after. He asked me to check it through Don
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  Speaker 6: Myers to be sure.
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  Speaker 4: What signature do use on this last one?
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  Speaker 6: Now that's another part of the m or the checks out.
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  Speaker 6: You remember, on the first check, he forged the victim's
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  Speaker 6: name William Scott, and he made it a second party
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  Speaker 6: check by signing the phony name George Scott, passing himself
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  Speaker 6: off as a nephew of the victim.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty smart.
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  Speaker 5: He goes to this victim's regular bank, and he doesn't
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  Speaker 5: take the chance of being tabbed as the paye. He
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  Speaker 5: covers by using that nephew gimme yeah.
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  Speaker 6: This time he goes to a different branch, not the
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  Speaker 6: regular branch of the victim deals with us. In the
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  Speaker 6: first case, he simply forges the victim's name and lets
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  Speaker 6: it go at that.
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  Speaker 4: Are you doing anything in that license number?
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  Speaker 6: Ashton and Miller checked it out late yesterday afternoon. They're
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  Speaker 6: on it now, need any help so far? I'm interested
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  Speaker 6: in what Don Myers has to say about the handwriting.
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  Speaker 6: You want to be through about now. I'll give him
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  Speaker 6: a call. Thanks, Harry, Oh Don?
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  Speaker 7: Who is this is Elliott? You know Don's checked that
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  Speaker 7: stuff through for Inspector Smith yet. Okay?
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  Speaker 6: Thanks? So no, that's all right, we'll get to.
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  Speaker 4: Don was called out of the office for a minute.
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  Speaker 6: That was sloan.
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  Speaker 7: He says, he's sure Don's finished with it. Oh fine,
• 14:32
  Speaker 7: you say when he be back, he just duck down
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: to that Brown's office for a minute. I'll call down
• 14:37
  Speaker 7: there for you.
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: That's sorry. I don't walk down there myself. I need
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: the exercise go and.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I walk on down with you.
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: Let's go, all right, you fellas will be back there one,
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: I'm sure as soon as I check with myers.
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: Uh? Which way is it from here? Hall looks the
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: same from one end of the other. Huh, okay, this
• 14:59
  Speaker 6: affects you'd like to f federal building?
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Does many? I get all turned around the bear?
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, this fellow's down in San Diego had a
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: rough going this thing.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: I was talking to McGuire and Ormsby down there just
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: the other day. They said they were going around circles
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: on it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 6: He broke a lot of ground for us, checked out
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: a lot of suspects, cleared him, checked out all that
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: stuff that Breton from CII sent them. Yeah, you know
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: how thorough that guy is.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: It figures they've done a lot of leg where Friday.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: You say you just talked to him down there.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, Lyn.
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: Well, then you know about all those bulletins they got
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: on the guy. Description, exemplars of his handwriting set him
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: every police department in the United States.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: And it's a big job. I'll go get done. It's
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: right here, thanks Joe, right don Yeah, Joe Leo Smith
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: in the post office departments waiting to see you. All right, Joe,
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: just on my way back to the office. Oh don sorry,
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I had to duck out for a minute.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: Oh that's all right, said, you get a chance to
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: look at Scott check over. Yeah, it did. Got a
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: couple of things to show you back in the office. Okay, fine.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Was Conway positive on this one. He said he felt
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: we the right man, but he wanted your opinion to
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: be absolutely sure.
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: I couldn't be positive, but I think maybe as a man,
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: there's a great similarity, but too much.
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: Pressure on the downstrokes. Yees. The O's just not too sure.
• 16:12
  Speaker 8: They're a little different than some of the previous samples
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: of the guy's handwriting.
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: Uh huh, I can show you better. Back to the office.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Got a few things for you.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: I think there's a possibility.
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: Don Let me put it this way. I won't say
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: it is, and I won't say it isn't. Let's pick
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: him up and find out for sure. Here were Go ahead, fellows,
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: thank you, I've blown those things up here.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Uh call fee lal, I'm three.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Oh thanks Harry. Excuse the smith talking.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: You did?
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: Uh, we did all right. Look, why don't you bring
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: him down a forgery detail here at the city hall.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: We'll talk to him here, write it right, thanks, Well,
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: it looks like the end of the trail. That was ash.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: He and Miller picked him up. He's our man, admitted
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: the forgery.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Looks like San Diego did all the work and we
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: get all the luck.
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: Anyway, we got him.
• 17:17
  Speaker 10: You are in the scientific Investigation division of a metropolitan
• 17:21
  Speaker 10: police department, the ballistics room.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: You have just heard a test bullet fired from a
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: thirty eight caliber revolver found in the possession of a suspect.
• 17:37
  Speaker 10: The test slug is removed from the ballistics box and
• 17:39
  Speaker 10: compared with the slug found at the scene of the crime.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: There they are side by side. They look alike, but
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: examination will prove a world of difference.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: In the routine solution of the case.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: The police officer has always benefited by the leg work
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: of his fellow officers. In this case, the men of
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: the San Diego Police Department, in conjunction with the Post
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Office Department had done most of the spade work, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: the actual apprehension of the suspect appeared to be almost
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: too easy.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: On our end. Even though Ben and I hadn't participated
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: in the physical arrest of the.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Suspect, we felt the same gratification for the speedy solution
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: of the case as did the postal authorities.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Monday, March third.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Three, twenty seven pm, Miller and Ashton of the Post
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Office Department brought the suspect in for questioning. The prisoner
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: was turned over to inspected Leo Smith. Ben and I
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: sat in on the interrogation.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: Carver Gleeson. That's your true name, yes, sir it is.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: You say you've never been arrested before. No, sir, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: never have. You know. We're going to check that out, yes, sir,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: All right now, let's go over it again the same way.
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: That's up to you. We want the truth. I've told
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: you the truth. You asked me questions about stealing mail,
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: about forging checks. You said I was down in San Diego.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: Well it's not true. None of it's true. Have you
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: ever stolen from the mails?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: So? I never have.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: I know. That's pretty serious events. What makes you think
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: forging isn't what you're trying to say.
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: No, I'm not.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: I didn't say that, but this was the first time
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: I've ever done anything like this. I didn't even think
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: about the consequences. Should have thought about them. When's the
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: last time you were in San Diego? I've never been there.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: I don't even know for sure where it is. How
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: long you've been in Los Angeles? About three months?
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: Where's your home Akron, Ohio? How old you say you were?
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: Twenty five? And what you been doing since you got
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: out here? That's just it. Nothing can't find a job,
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: or how you've been getting by, how you've been living,
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: been staying down to YMCA Hope Street. I guess it
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: is what you been doing for money? Well, my folks
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: gave me a little when I left Akron. I thought
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: i'd have a job by now. I didn't want to
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: write home for anymore. So when I found a check,
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: I figured I could get away with it. I needed money,
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: and I cashed it. And where'd you say you found it?
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: Or on Let's Street out that way singing nagger? Is
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: that how you said?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: L Yeah?
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: What were you doing out there? Well? I was answering
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: an ad in to classify and was trying to find
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: a job. I had to park the car down the
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: streets from the place, and on my way back, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: found this check on the sidewalk right near the bank
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: on the corner. Where'd you get the car? It's my father's.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: The car is registered in your name with California plates.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: How to explain that? Well, what folks told me when
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: I got to California to go right to the authorities
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: and register the car if I was gonna stay so
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't get in any trouble. That's where part of
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: my money went. You got anything else you want to
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: tell us, Well, I did it. I admit that. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: want to make it up somehow. The check was for
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: fifty seven dollars I gave them in that arrested me
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: fifty of it and I spent seven dollars. Yeah, that's
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: all on the record. I did wrong. I'll pay the
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: seven dollars back, but you can take that up with
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: the judge. Gleason Friday, MARYL. You want to step outside
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: with me a minute, Yeah, right, Grease, And you wait
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: here with that officer.
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: Yes, sir, what do you think he's telling the truth.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: He's not the one we want. How about you, Joe, Yeah,
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: I'll go along with Ben. It makes three of us.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Monday, March third, five pm, we went in and checked
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: with Don Myers, and carefully going over exemplars of Carver
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Gleason's handwriting, he had definitely eliminated him as our suspect.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Carver Gleason remained in custody awaiting trial. Three months went by.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: During this time, the burglaries and forgeries continued. Suspects were
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: picked up, checked out, and released. We got nowhere. Tuesday,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: July twelfth, we received a communication from Chief Adam Jensen
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: of the San Diego Police Department, who stated he was
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: forwarding a radiogram from Chief John W. Pole Scene of
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the Milwaukee, Wisconsin Police Department. The radiogram from Chief pole
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Scene stated that his handwriting man in Milwaukee had identified
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: the suspects handwriting as listed in one of the San
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Diego bulletins as.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Belonging to Philip E.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Holloway.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Holloway was acted two years previous on a reckless driving charge.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: The physical description of the man matched closely with the
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: one that we'd received on a suspect known to us
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: as Harvey Fletcher. They further stated that although he was
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: at one time a resident of Milwaukee, they had nothing
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: further on him. It was just an outside chance, but
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: we decided that in all probability, this could be the
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: suspect's true name, Philippi Holloway. This information was forwarded to
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: the postal authorities. Ben and I started to check through
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: our channels to determine the whereabouts of the suspect, Philippi
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Holloway with a possible alias of Harvey Fletcher.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: That's it, Joe. Nothing in any of the phone books. Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: covered everything I can think of. Our records, Sureiff's records.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: Nothing from CII utility companies. Yeah, well, maybe Smith found
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: something on him. We haven't got anything here, Thank God.
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: Give him a call, aren't you?
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to know. That's extension sixty six four.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, yeah, six six four Hello, Inspector Smith.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Please?
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: How's that? Well?
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: I see, no, that's all right, thank you. On his
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: way over here. He left five minutes ago.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: I sure hope he's got something, Joe, Ben, I think
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: maybe we ran it down.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Good. How'd you do it to the postal service?
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Didn't figure did it?
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: We didn't think he'd stay put long enough to have
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: a permanent address.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: We's been on the move. We got the last known
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: address on him, received mail there two days ago.
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: You want to check with Don Myers. He's been working
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: over those exemplars at Milwaukee Center. It just did called
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: him about fifteen minutes ago.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, we just got back from Mary and I what
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: do you have to say this son? He and Conway
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: agree all the way to this trip. Yeah, alloways our man.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Together with a postal authority's been and I helped him.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: The twenty four hour.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Surveillance placed on the suspect, Philippi Holloway Our fightings disclosed
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: that he was living in a modest apartment house and
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: he was employed by a local vacuum cleaner company as
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: a door to door salesman. This type of occupation would
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: enable anyone to have suspicion free access to any and
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: all types of home mailboxes. The first three days of
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: the surveillance failed to disclose any the incriminating evidence. Thursday
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: July seventeenth, fifth day of the twenty four hour surveillance,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: two thirty pm, Holloway came out of his apartment building,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: got into his car and drove approximately four miles to
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: the Echo Park residential district.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: He parked his car, got.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Out and went up the steps of a small apartment
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: house together with Inspector Leo Smith.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Ben and I followed him.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: You want to pull up here, Ben?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: This is good?
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going for that mailbox, isn't he.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got the keys opening the panel.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Nott a worry in the world.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Broad daylight. Look at that, he's got all the letters
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: out of the box. Got him in his pocket on
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: his way back to his car.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Leover is a bank right up there in sunset.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: See, okay, let's stay with him. How's it look, Joey?
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: You can see him a head in there? Is he
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: pulling out?
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, all right, let's go better pull up here. Huh?
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Look at that just like it was blueprinted right in
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: the back. Come on, yeah, joe you see him there?
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: He is second one that just get in line right
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: behind him?
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Right assume me I help you?
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Yes, I wonder if you can catch a check for me?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, would you endorse it to you?
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: Also?
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: Sure?
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Anyway, as you can see this as one of my
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: mother's checks, I guess I can catch it alright. For us.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Do you have any identification? I'm sorry, I don't. I'll
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: say I have this envelope to check with mail day and.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: The left here.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, I think that's alright.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: How would you like this so he doesn't want it anyway?
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: Miss just hold like check for us please postal inspector. Yes, sir,
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: I thank your pardon. I believe you're making a mistake here.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: No, there's no mistake. Come on, step over here, shaken down.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: I don't understand all this. That k you used over
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: there on Baxter Street, that the one you made from
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: that panel you stole over on Alvarado about four months ago.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: Know about that? Yeah, we do. And you know all right?
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: For wild that king was a pretty good one, isn't they?
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: They're in the lock in the world. I can't make
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: it key for we got one in mind. You might
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: have trouble with.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true under The
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: names were changed to protect the innocent.
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: On October fifteenth, trial was held in the United States
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: District Court state of California. In a moment the results
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: of that trial, the suspect, Philip Elwood Holloway, was found
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: guilty on all counts. He was sentenced to ten years
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: in the federal penitentiary. Five years of his sentence was
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: suspended and he was placed on probation, one of the
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: conditions being that he make restitution of the stolen money.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. Accidents of all types kill more persons
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: from one to thirty five years of age than does
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: any single disease. America's homes and children can best be
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: kept safe if every father, mother, and child develops the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: personal responsibility to know and observe home safety rules. Make
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: home safety a family affair.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Be careful.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: The life you save may be your own.
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office of
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: Stay tuned for Counterspy next over most NBC stations.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: We'll come back. This is probably one of those episodes
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that was more interesting to me, due to my background
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: in financial services, than it will be to most of you.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: With Dragnet, there's often this very fine balance between being
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: educational and being entertaining, and this one kind of fails
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: on the entertainment side, though it should be said the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: educational element was important in that time because and for
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: us listening seventy odd years later, it's an interesting cultural artifact.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: It captures the sort of psychological and consumer tendencies that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: made the thieves job easier in this area, like you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: careless practices and not you know, like not being aware
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of when you should be expecting your divid in checks,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: or having sort of these social psychological things where you're
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: reluctant to ask people like you said, you sent me
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that payment, I don't have it in the mail. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: then you have just a huge systematic problems such as
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the length of time it took to process checks and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: how people had to wait for their bank statements.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: And then of.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Course you have the identification standards that were used at
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: bank branches. And even though this was recorded half a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: century before I got into the industry, there was a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: part of me inside screaming when the teller said she
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: could take the envelope for identification. Of course, the consumer
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about the processing issues, but they could
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: do things to protect themselves in terms of being aware
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: of when you receive your dividend checks and just being
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: willing to call and say, ah, I'm just checking I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: know you sent it, but I'm wondering if it might
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: have been lost in the mail. We might need to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: place a stop payment those sort of things. And you
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: can also see why there's been such an embrace of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: things like automatic payments, direct depausits, electronic brokerage, you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: et cetera, because those carry with them some risk of
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: some high tech criminal activity. But in many ways that
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: may be preferable to dealing with all of these sort
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: of low tech scams and frauds that are very hard
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to track. Now it's a lot easier to deal with
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: encryption on a financial website than to have a situation
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: where like, okay, well we kind of need to be
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: able to watch every mailbox in a single portion of
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Los angel And of course, check processing would be moved
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: forward after nine to eleven when planes were grounded and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it really slowed the entire economy down because you couldn't
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: process checks. And I think what Dragnet was dealing with
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and the police officers at the time was sort of
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the growing pains of a changing world and the sort
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of banking practices that might have worked okay in a
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: small town where everyone knew each other, We're not going
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to work as technology advanced, as the ability of people
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of the sort of shifting population of
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, the constant in migration to and you know
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: this would happen in other cities as well, and this
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: would be some of the disk for some changes in
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the financial service industry. But in this episode of Dragnet,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: we just get some of the pain points that began
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that movement. The other thing that this highlights is the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: idea of entered departmental cooperation, because the focus of Dragnet
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: is on the work of the Los Angeles Police Department,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but there are cases that require coordination with the FEDS
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and with other cities, and we saw that here where
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you work with the postal inspector with the San Diego
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Police Department even got some help from the police department
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: in Milwaukee and they even let Inspector Smith deliver the
• 32:52
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  Speaker 1: all are ware of.
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  Speaker 12: A hobby desert, thousands of square miles of sand, sun
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  Speaker 12: bleached gravel and rock of cactus, sage and Jeshua trees,
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  Speaker 12: hi flat maces, towering crags, countless trails leading off from
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  Speaker 12: the highway, long abandoned roads leading up into the harsh
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  Speaker 12: Bleak Mountains, with their promise of infinite wealth to the
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  Speaker 12: prospectors who scratched away in the hungry search for silver
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  Speaker 12: and gold. And who knows, perhaps some of these were
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  Speaker 12: trails of the pioneers who beat a tortuous path westward
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  Speaker 12: to the great Pacific, who with their oxenen heavy wagons,
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  Speaker 12: were lucky if they made six miles a day. Yet
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  Speaker 12: here I was cruising along on an easy sixty miles
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  Speaker 12: an hour, and above me a jet plane lazily tearing
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  Speaker 12: off six hundred miles an hour. Yeah, it made me
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  Speaker 12: think about the men who lived in struggle here, the
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  Speaker 12: men who died of hunger and thirst, following the same
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  Speaker 12: path I was taking, never knowing that only a a
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  Speaker 12: few miles away behind the mountains was the mighty Colorado water,
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  Speaker 12: food and life for those lucky enough to find it.
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  Speaker 1: Boise Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.