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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Offense Dominates Again & Talking Heads Talking CFB · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:17
  Speaker 1: He did not. It was just something that kind of
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  Speaker 1: started to get sore after the first couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: and then we just you know, he mentioned it to us.
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  Speaker 1: We started to look at it, and you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we put him through some some good recovery stuff and
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  Speaker 1: and deloaded him for a couple of days, got him
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  Speaker 1: back out there, and he couldn't finish the day. It's
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  Speaker 1: the same one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, same kna is the one that was sore, and
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  Speaker 2: that certainly brings up some questions. I did see Joe
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  Speaker 2: Person saying his article that you know, he had been told, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is not really something that is related to the
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: knee pain that he had previously, but it is the
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  Speaker 2: same knee. It's Chris Brazzle and it is a moderate
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  Speaker 2: tear Joe Person's words, moderate tear of the lcl in.
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  Speaker 3: His left knee.
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  Speaker 2: And the estimate that I saw bone from Joe Person
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  Speaker 2: is about eight weeks out. So I'm sure a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Panther fans went through the same thing we did,
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  Speaker 2: seeing this on Twitter and hell and fearing the worst,
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  Speaker 2: fearing like this is another Nicks Gorton situation. It's definitely
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  Speaker 2: not that bad. It could have been worse, but it's
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  Speaker 2: obviously not ideal. And again, the thing I keep coming
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  Speaker 2: back to, because we had a text in the first
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  Speaker 2: hour bone say Mac injuries happen, something about me being
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  Speaker 2: a sissy or so, I don't know, like get you know,
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  Speaker 2: tough en up if injuries happen in football. But the
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  Speaker 2: thing I keep coming back to is we're a week
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  Speaker 2: in and we've got a lot of injuries, and we've
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  Speaker 2: got the motent illness, and it's just like you're bound
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  Speaker 2: to get them as you play real football, so you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to start in a hole. And that's it
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  Speaker 2: just feels like we're just digging ourselves an injury hole
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  Speaker 2: for that when we if we get normal attrition, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be worse offt than the average team. That's all
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Man, it's concerning that a rookie is gonna have his
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  Speaker 4: season cut short.
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  Speaker 3: It have to catch up. I don't love that.
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  Speaker 4: Also, two of the guys that are hurt in Scorting
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  Speaker 4: and in brasl are on that X factor list. They're
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  Speaker 4: guys we've talked about as young players scored in year
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  Speaker 4: two brassweut the rookie that can change things dynamically on
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  Speaker 4: offense and defense. Scoring could be a major X factor.
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  Speaker 4: Guy Brazzle's mere presence on the field, his ability to
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  Speaker 4: be a downfield threat is a major factor. So two
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  Speaker 4: young guys we've touted as hey, these guys are gonna
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  Speaker 4: be major difference makers in just their presence alone. Well,
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  Speaker 4: they're already her one for the year, one for eight weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 4: And the other one we count as a next factor
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  Speaker 4: is Jonathan Brooks. And we hold our breath with him
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  Speaker 4: every highway that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he slipped yesterday and practice and all of
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  Speaker 2: twitters is a gas. But yeah, the thing with me
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  Speaker 2: with Bras and we could talk about it here because
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  Speaker 2: at this same time yesterday we were having the conversation
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  Speaker 2: about what do we expect from this offense? What are
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  Speaker 2: the goals of the offense? I said, top twenty men.
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  Speaker 2: Have you mocked me that that's good?
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  Speaker 3: That's not good? And all that? And you're right.
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  Speaker 2: We were literally just talking about the Brazzle impact and
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  Speaker 2: how this team needs more explosive plays and that's his specialty.
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  Speaker 2: And then we talked Boneye about man if all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden he can establish himself that he can make
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  Speaker 2: those plays deep well, he is not gonna not have
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  Speaker 2: a safety, and then I'll have a safety over the
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  Speaker 2: top every time, and then Cocher and t Mac and
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  Speaker 2: all these other guys cook underneath. So it's just like
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  Speaker 2: we were. It's a skill set with the speed and
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  Speaker 2: the size that no one else has on this team,
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  Speaker 2: and we're missing. I will see a.
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  Speaker 4: Guy that Canalis has highlighted pretty in depth and suppressors
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  Speaker 4: like he's gone in depth about what he provides. He
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  Speaker 4: really loved him in the draft. He really did, Darren.
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  Speaker 4: He says, Mac, what's the big deal. He wasn't gonna
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  Speaker 4: start anyway. He was only going to play a few
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  Speaker 4: snaps a game.
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  Speaker 3: Darren.
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  Speaker 4: That is completely false. We said over and over again
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  Speaker 4: that yeah, he may not be the huge yards and
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  Speaker 4: catch this guy for the team, but his ability will
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  Speaker 4: allow the other guys, Cocher and T Mac to have
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  Speaker 4: big years because he's going to open things up for
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  Speaker 4: the team.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and we got so many of these texts yesterday
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  Speaker 5: when we when Shoppy red Joe Person's tweet out and
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  Speaker 5: we were kind of reacting in the moment. People don't
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  Speaker 5: understand why we were talking about him being injured and
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  Speaker 5: why it was such a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: And at that point y'all thought maybe it's for the season.
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  Speaker 2: Now we at least know it's only until probably late September, right,
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  Speaker 2: so now it is a less of it.
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  Speaker 5: I tried to avoid going worst case scenario, but that
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  Speaker 5: was just kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of where your mind goes.
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  Speaker 5: That's what, right, and people couldn't understand what his potential
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  Speaker 5: absence could mean, and back the offense won't be its
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  Speaker 5: best version of itself.
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  Speaker 3: I think until he's on the field. No, I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 3: this is is this one? You know?
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  Speaker 2: Do I put this in the mooting category? Do I
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  Speaker 2: put this in a scurting category?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 3: I do not.
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  Speaker 2: And it's ultimately it's ultimately good news that he's only
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  Speaker 2: going to miss two months and it's not a big
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  Speaker 2: acl tear. But there is a role there that was
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  Speaker 2: new for this team that we that I think I
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  Speaker 2: thought all of us fans were looking forward to seeing.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't want to act like bone like there
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  Speaker 2: won't be any downgrading going on here. We don't need
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  Speaker 2: to go to the list and put a downgrade wins
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  Speaker 2: because of this. But you brought it up just for
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  Speaker 2: him personally, like it's it's and I brought up the
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee angle. Tennessee wide receivers that played under under Hypel
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  Speaker 2: have had a very hard time adjusting in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: That scheme is very.
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  Speaker 2: Unique, and that scheme does an amazing job of getting
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  Speaker 2: wide receivers in space. So when they get to the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: it's a completely different world. You don't have that space.
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  Speaker 2: And so it would have been ideal for him to
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  Speaker 2: have a full preseason to work on that and for
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  Speaker 2: him now to to start up in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the season. You brought up a good point, which is
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  Speaker 2: when does he start to get comfortable and acclimated, like,
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  Speaker 2: because he's not going to just come back first week
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  Speaker 2: of practice, back late September and go. So it's just
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  Speaker 2: it feels well. I think you even said, man, does
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  Speaker 2: he lose a full seaton? Like I think that's the
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  Speaker 2: fear is like how much time really does he end
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  Speaker 2: up losing?
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  Speaker 3: But I no mean, I'm not on here waving the
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  Speaker 3: surrender flag.
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  Speaker 4: No, he he may not lose a full season in
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  Speaker 4: terms of being active, like he may be active, but
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  Speaker 4: he could lose a season in terms of progression, getting better,
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  Speaker 4: getting used to the league. If we think October is
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  Speaker 4: when he starts to really rev it up to come back, well,
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  Speaker 4: then how long is that gonna taken? Ultimately, does this
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  Speaker 4: become a lost season because he got so.
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  Speaker 3: Far behind early on? That's my fear. Yeah, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I know we're going to get backlash for this on
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  Speaker 2: the text line, but football's back. Everything we say tone
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  Speaker 2: is going to people agree or people say you're crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But allow me to say, Xavier League get had another
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  Speaker 2: great day yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Like is he able to step up?
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  Speaker 2: It's not the same, it's not the same deep thread,
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  Speaker 2: it's not the same you know, uh, you know, stretch
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  Speaker 2: the defense, open things up, or it's not the same.
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  Speaker 2: But like, is there enough production there? Can Jalen Cocher
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  Speaker 2: stay healthy? We have not had that full Coker season.
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  Speaker 2: T MAC to me looks amazing with the added weight.
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  Speaker 2: I think this dude is taking his game to another level.
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  Speaker 2: So and and Vitamin D's there bone. Dave Canalis told
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  Speaker 2: us yesterday, Vitamin D David Moore, you take one to day,
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  Speaker 2: You take one big catch for David Moore every day.
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  Speaker 4: Nag are you are you buying stock again in XL
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  Speaker 4: it's low you buy it now? You can you can
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  Speaker 4: really get something out of that stock. You buying stock.
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  Speaker 2: Yet, I don't know if I go to I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I go that far. But you're right, Yeah,
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: if you want to jump on it now, you could
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  Speaker 2: get a bargain, There's no doubt about it. Uh Texter says,
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  Speaker 2: but his excel going to learn how to get his
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  Speaker 2: feet down and bounds. Apparently bone the other day, uh
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  Speaker 2: or yesterday in practice where Bryce Young and all the
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks were just dealing and tearing apart the UH Panthers
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  Speaker 2: secondary to the point where jac Horn said, we got
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  Speaker 2: our ass whoop today practice uh And Mike Jack says,
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  Speaker 2: if I play like I did today, I ain't getting
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  Speaker 2: the contract. Like that's how bad they were, and the
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  Speaker 2: offense went off on these boys. Xcel apparently had an
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  Speaker 2: amazing catch in the corner of the end zone, keeping
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  Speaker 2: in bounds and everything like that.
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  Speaker 3: Again, it's practice, it's practice.
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  Speaker 7: I heard.
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  Speaker 4: I heard they're making the fields wider during campher XL,
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  Speaker 4: So it feels like he's making the place.
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  Speaker 3: Good job as good job, bunny. Hey, I got down.
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  Speaker 2: They have a new technology that allows them to move
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  Speaker 2: the line. Uh live as he's stepping down. Oh, man
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  Speaker 2: seven O four five, seven, nine six ten. Does this
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  Speaker 2: brazzle injury shake you at all? I feel like it's
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  Speaker 2: somewhere in between, Like I'm not shook like I was
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  Speaker 2: last week by Moten and scorting, but also Bone, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not one of these guys like what was the Texas name,
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  Speaker 2: Darren That was like, ah, he's not gonna start, who cares?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm somewhere kind of comfortably in between those
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  Speaker 2: two things. Yeah, this day and age in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a two wide receiver system here. You're not
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  Speaker 2: back in the nineteen fifties. You need three, four or
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  Speaker 2: five wideouts to contribute to your football team. Yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Big Wide says, I love that name.
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  Speaker 3: Big Wide.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't XL run a four to three I think he
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  Speaker 2: was clocked four to three to eight coming out of college.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is Bone, it doesn't He's not like it.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like the deep ball is his bag
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  Speaker 2: the way it is. Brazzles like I like getting.
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  Speaker 4: Translate to the to the NFL, and some is sometimes
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't always look like they're playing football fast'.
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  Speaker 2: That's true too, But I like I like XCEL, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, it the other day, slants and crossers. Let's
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  Speaker 2: get the ball in his hands and like and get
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  Speaker 2: him moving with momentum. I'd love it if he gives
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  Speaker 2: us some deep game. I just y'all tell me if
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  Speaker 2: you've seen it like it's been. It's been few and
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  Speaker 2: far between, and in fairness, a lot of the stuff's
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  Speaker 2: been few and far between. But last year bone Xcel
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  Speaker 2: his catches and I can look it up here, it
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  Speaker 2: was there was a lot of short stuff, screens just
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  Speaker 2: try to get him the ball and see if he'll
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  Speaker 2: do anything.
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  Speaker 3: So I just.
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  Speaker 2: I do not view him, even though they're both fast,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't view him as the deep threat.
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  Speaker 3: Like the hope is that Brazle will.
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  Speaker 4: Be and who knows when When Excel came here, Mac,
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  Speaker 4: we thought there'd be certain packages for Excel in a
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  Speaker 4: Percy Harvin type role where just get him the ball
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  Speaker 4: and let him go. We haven't really seen any of
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  Speaker 4: that at all.
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  Speaker 2: You haven't seen anything they've tried to run him and
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  Speaker 2: the rounds they've tried to, like I said, screen pass,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just really he has to get going. That's
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  Speaker 2: another thing too, when they throw a screen pass, like
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  Speaker 2: Steve Smith was so good at those smoke screens because
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  Speaker 2: he can go quick right, just start, go Excel.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I want him on a crosser. Get him
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  Speaker 3: time where he can rumble across the field.
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  Speaker 2: You give it to him, and then he's got his
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  Speaker 2: speed like I don't know, if he goes from zero
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  Speaker 2: to sixty like a sports car, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And if you get him the ball in space, he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have to worry about working the boundaries.
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  Speaker 2: What he's got problems with getting line. Get him away
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  Speaker 2: from the sideline. That has been better so far in camp.
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  Speaker 2: But I know we talked about practice. I know that's
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  Speaker 2: the text that comes in every day. We talking about practice.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody turns into allied ivers. We're talking about practice, all right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to look up this receiving if we have
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  Speaker 2: to go to the.
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  Speaker 3: Conversation, so it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Like porky pig here, we have to go to the
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  Speaker 2: conversation about the offense dominating. But just to give you
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  Speaker 2: what I was talking about, bone, twenty four of Excel's
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  Speaker 2: thirty six catches, sixty seven percent were under or nine
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  Speaker 2: yards are under. Last year, he had four deep balls
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  Speaker 2: that he caught last year so it's just I just
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  Speaker 2: Brasel's a different guy.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 2: They're both fast and both thig, but Brazle's different. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think bone and what is everybody else? I
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  Speaker 2: know I'm going to get to Allen iverson text on
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  Speaker 2: this one, but what do you think about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that J. C. Horn is saying we got our ass
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  Speaker 2: whooped in practice that if you see highlights of Essay's
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: practice or read the tweets from Essay's practice, it was
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young, Kenny Pickett, and Haines King all destroying the first,
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  Speaker 2: second and third string defense of the Carolina Panthers, and
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  Speaker 2: the fact bone that the Panthers offense has now, according
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  Speaker 2: to coach Canalis, won three straight practices after the defense
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  Speaker 2: won the first two. According to coach Canalis, you had
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  Speaker 2: a take that I tend to agree with that you
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  Speaker 2: said earlier in the show.
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  Speaker 4: What's also keep in mind that Horn and Mike Jack
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  Speaker 4: missed that first practice as well.
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  Speaker 3: Although they got they've been there for the last ten
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: They got their aft beat the last two, but the
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  Speaker 4: first one was out on those two guys. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a good thing because my concerns going into the season.
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  Speaker 4: Are more about the offense catching up to where we
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: think this defense is going to be. We've talked about
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  Speaker 4: this defense potentially having the talent and ability. We'll see
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  Speaker 4: what the scoring side of things over there. Being a
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  Speaker 4: top ten defense. Offense has been the question, well, wide out,
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  Speaker 4: step up the run game, where do they get enough
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  Speaker 4: out of that? The offensive lines had their their injury question.
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  Speaker 4: So the defense of the offense is competing and beating the
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  Speaker 4: defense handly right now is a good thing because I
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  Speaker 4: know the defense will be there. The offense has been
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  Speaker 4: the question. So I don't think ultimately this is a
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  Speaker 4: bad thing. The defense is gonna show up during the season.
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  Speaker 4: But if the offense shows up too. Now we're cooking
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: with a cooking with gas cooking. I had the same
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  Speaker 4: time tell you cook like if.
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  Speaker 2: We sit here yesterday, Bone and say I thought you
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  Speaker 2: cooked in the microwave, Bone, I thought that was sure.
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  Speaker 3: I toought you it was your method of cooking.
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  Speaker 4: Air.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, dude, love the air fry you If we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: sit here yesterday and say we expect the top ten defense.
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  Speaker 3: He went out.
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  Speaker 2: Scorting, and we're hoping the offense is there in the
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  Speaker 2: top twenty, and then I hear these reports man the
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  Speaker 2: offense and Bryce is going off, Like who's the most
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: important player on the Carolina Panthers Bryce Young, Mike gonna
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  Speaker 2: get mad if he's going off.
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  Speaker 3: I'll know now I get it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of this comes down to are you
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  Speaker 2: a glass half full person and fan or a glass
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  Speaker 2: half empty fan? Some people and we all know people
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  Speaker 2: like this in our lives as fans, and sometimes maybe
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: we all get like this, but some people bone are
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  Speaker 2: the glass half full fans. So you'll they'll look at
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  Speaker 2: this and say, oh, maybe the defense ain't as good
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  Speaker 2: as we thought. Right on the flip side of that,
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  Speaker 2: I tend to look at it like you, and you
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: could say, oh, Max being a homer again, But I
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  Speaker 2: am more worried. Just like your point about the offense.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that defense they've got bawlers. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like we know what they're gonna do. So I take it.
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  Speaker 2: I take more positives plus Bryce.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 2: If Bryce balls out and takes his game to another
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  Speaker 2: level and he is dropping passes in small windows, touch
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  Speaker 2: passes is J C. Horn said it. He is trusting
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  Speaker 2: these guys more and taking shots and telling them to
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  Speaker 2: go up there and get it. And what did I
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: try to beg Canalis for the other day when we
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: were in practice, More deep shots. Bryce can do it, man,
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  Speaker 2: They just and Bryce, I beg him for more deep
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  Speaker 2: shots too.
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  Speaker 3: Take more.
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  Speaker 4: You are one thousand percent right, so right this moment down, ma,
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  Speaker 4: I can give you a full credit here. Bryce playing
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  Speaker 4: well in camp is far more important than Horn and
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  Speaker 4: Derek Brown and Mary. Those guys are going to be
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  Speaker 4: there during the season. Bryce Young has to be there
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  Speaker 4: during the season, playing at a high level for this
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: team to not just be a playoff team, but to
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: go to that next level that we want them to
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: go to.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: So Fiddy has informed me, Bone and nothing to see here.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Bone and I agree. Next issue, Next issue. All right,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Texters don't agree with me, but I've got
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: to wrap this up.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: I have to talk.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: We'll see during the break, I'll read over and see
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: what kind of feedback we're getting on the offense dominating
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the defense now Here here I would say this, I
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: would like to see a defense pushback here at some point.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: I can't and I can't wait to see fan Fast.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: We're going to fan Fast on Friday. Canal has said
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: The plan is to do the same thing they did
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: last year, simulate a game, which was really freaking cool.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: And then and you know what, I almost feel like
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the fans deserve it, not being able to see these practices.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a we got a Friday night out, man,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: fan fast.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: We had a Wednesday night out, now a Friday night out.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: We were gonna go eat back at Jack Beagles right
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: near the radio station. But I have bad news. What's
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: that appairly it closed? It was opened last night. We
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: walked right past. I think it's a new I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: it might be a new restaurant. Now they said that
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: it's another place called small Bars. What the heck it
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: says Jack Beagles it said yesterday that I don't know.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what. I have to investigate.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: There's something there, man, we should go to the Freeport kid.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: What's that thing called?
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Not Freeport kid, that's like a free like Atario.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: That's a Atario basketball Twitter.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Guy, the Freeport tavern? Yeah, what is the Freeport kids?
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: You know the fitty you know him.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Right like analytics analytics tar heel guy Bone probably blocked
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: him on Twitter long ago.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Actually, there's a great chance.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I probably have, But anyway, it doesn't make me any
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: less stupid for like thinking a bar was named after
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: an analytics guy on Twitter. But anyway, Freeport Tavern, I
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: kind of like that joint, good local ip as we
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: went there last year.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Anyway, big night out man, y'all excited, y'all excited for us?
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: My god, I'm gonna be out till nine thirty pm
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: when we come back on the Mack and Bone Show,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: talking head speaking of the Carolinas and UNC We have
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: national voices on State, the Heels, Clemson and the game
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Cocks on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ, Sports.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Radio nineve wfn Z. All right, a couple of things,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: A couple of things. Let's clean up. Let's clean up
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Aisle two here. Bone is one hundred percent right according
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: to Texters, that Jack Beagles is no longer at least
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: a warhead location that is now called small Bar. So Bone,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you nailed it, even though I squear I think it's
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: still said Jack Beagles, but I guess it's so.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Fresh they hadn't changed it like four or five days ago.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: All right, So Bone all over that look? And why
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: wouldn't Bone be all over the local bar scene information.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I think a man out in about town. Well, you
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: know my nickname is night out. So the we've got
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: that going on. Panthers practice schedule before we let you
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: hear what the national media members are saying about four
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: local college football teams here in the Carolinas, and it varies.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Two of the cuts are very positive, two of the
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: cuts are not exactly positive, Bone, and you can figure
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: out which. You could try to guess if your school
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: is going to be positively talked about or not. But
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the Panther practice schedule walk through today, so there won't
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: be another day of practice for the media to cover
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: tomorrow's fan fast, which will be awesome. I expect a
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: great turnout too, Bone, because fans haven't been able to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: see it. And then you said they had the whole
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: weekend off. They get Saturday and Sunday off, and then
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: next week is a game week. A week from tonight
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: they'll be playing in Can't Ohio.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I think they're doing something on Saturday, but it's not
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: a practice because it lists that Sunday, August second is
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: no it's player off day. So they're doing something on
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Saturday after Oh, it's after fan fast.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: They're not. They're going to be probably going over film.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Pretty light, pretty light, because they're trying to, like you said,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Canal said, they're trying to simulate a game on Friday night.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: They practice Monday, Tuesday, no practice, Wednesday, game Thursday, no practice,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Friday and Saturday next week. I cannot believe this a
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: week away from Panther Mac, the the camp schedules of yesteryear.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: There is a lot of uh, there's a lot of downtime,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: more so than they ever used to be.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Isn't there when Jay?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: How about when JJJJ said when he started and to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: today's I mean I knew j J.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I knew you were old man. I didn't even know.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: That they have shoulder pads when started with a helmet's leather.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, sorry JJ, Sorry man. All right, let's get
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to it, talking heads, talking college football in the Carolinas.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Let's start Bone. Let's start with positivity. And it's the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: same national pundit, former Georgia ed Rusher, former ESPN analysts,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and I think he's really good man. I'd love for
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: him to be back on TV. But he's got a
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: pretty big podcast and he has positivity. Bone about two
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: teams in the Carolinas. Let's start first with the NC
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: State wolf Pack.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Shall we boon? How about that wolf Pack figures in there?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Baby, he's he's pretty positive about NC State this season.
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: This is a team that has won ten games one
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: time in school history. That was in two thousand and
• 21:03
  Speaker 8: two when they went in eleven and three. Like Philip
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: Rivers is in the ten win club and he's just
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: been sitting there, waiting there for twenty four years, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: nobody's joined him. It's changing this year.
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: Baby.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I love the schedule. I love CJ. Bailey returning. He's
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: got some big gifts.
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: He's still got to work on consistency, but that is
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: a big strong sucker. Thirty one total touchdowns last year,
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: almost two years as a starting experience. The schedule creates
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: a real opening for NC State to get to ten wins.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: They avoid Clemson, Miami, SMU, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: The wolf Pack also won four of its last five
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: games last season and a Big Bowl victory. The defense
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: finished good last year. This is year two under DJ Elliott,
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: but the late season improvements got to give you some hope.
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: I think the wolf Pack sit to be in a
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: great spot, and I think CJ. Bailey rolls up to
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: Philip Rivers at the bar and says, hollow man, I'm
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: in your club.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I love Finally the ten win club gets a second quarterback.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: We would love that man.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: The first appearance of Wolfpack mac were almost in August
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: started to rev up a little bit.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Megan.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Is it surprising to you or not that when we
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: look at NC State Virginia, the game that was supposed
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: to be in Brazil now being played in Charlottesville Week zero,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: that Virginia still remains five and a half point favorites.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Of that game.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Ye, that numbers a little high for my liking. They
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: were they beat him last year, they were three point favorites.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: They being Virginia on the neutral site in Brazil goes
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to Charlottesville five and a half point underdogs for State.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: That one kind of surprises me a little bit. I
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: don't have the guts to go ten wins like David
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Pollock did, but we talked about it boned during ACC
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: media days. I love CJ. Bailey and I love NC
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: State schedule. I'm not on here trying to tell you
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: this is going to be some amazing team. They still
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: obviously have questions on defense second year of the scheme,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and they did lose a lot of weapons, but they
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: brought a bunch in. I love Duke Scott in the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: running game. I just think that schedule, I think it's
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: consistent as NC State to me. To me, it's it
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: feels eight to nine n eight or nine winish to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: me with the schedule they have.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I've said numerous times I think it's between them and
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: ECU as the team in the state of North Carolina
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: that gets the most wins. Not saying that is a
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: lot of great teams in the in North Carolina, but
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I think ECU and State are going to be right
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: in that same win range this year.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that happening. I could definitely see
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that happening. Let's continue here, bone with some talking heads
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: talking about our local college football teams. It's one thing
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: to hear us yeappen, and by the way, we will
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: keep doing that until college football gets going. But it's
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: interesting when our teams here into Carolinas do get a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: little national talk. And let's we've got two good clips,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: too bad ones. So here's the second positive clip bone
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: before we get to national media negativity.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: About two local teams. Who could that be?
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Y'all know if you the fan bases know what's coming,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: don't they? They know they know the negative comments are
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: coming about them, don't they? This is about South Carolina.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: This is also David Pollock on his podcast also a
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: fan of this game Cock team this season.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: Why should you be excited if you're a South Carolina fan?
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: Because you've got game changers. Dylan Stewart can take over
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: a game. Lenora Sellers can take over a game. Nick
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: Harbor has game changing speed. You make the adjustment of
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: this offseason. Lenora Sellers improves with a new OC, Kendall
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: Briles as the offensive coordinator who's been at TCU.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: He was very, very good.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: The O line was a huge weakness. South Carolina addressed
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: it aggressively into the portal. Eight transfers on the offensive line,
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: headlined by Jacarius Peak from NC State to the left tackle.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: You've got dudes, You've got ability, You've got game changers.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: You better watch the heck out, man. This is going
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: to be one of those teams I think that surprises people.
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: They're going to be ranked at some point, They're going
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: to be competitive in big games. They get a potential
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: late season serge Man Beamer makes some Beamer ball magic.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: Nine wins, they get there and get in the playoff.
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: Conversation again that they were two years ago because of
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: those game changing guys that are still on the roster.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Bony too, I'm looking for good stuff, looking for disagreements
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: I have. I don't find any here. I think that's
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: all good from David Pollock. Put that man back on.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: My TV set. He even went a playoff.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I can't go that far, but many I mean that
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: they can win eight seven at least.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I feel like, man, I'm with it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I think the playoff would be wonderful, but I think
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: that would be an added Boney. If they can get
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to eight or nine and not make the playoff, that
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: is still I think a heck of a heck of
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: a year for the game. Car It's got to be
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: much more like two years ago than these down years
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: that they had. The Beam were down years where it's
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: almost unwatchable football. It can't it can't be that this year. No,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: they got to have some years where you go, oh
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: my god, just end this. What are they running on offense?
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: They also have years where two years ago where they're
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: entertaining and they're fun to watch. They have to be
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: like that this year.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: They have been, you know, last four years, good one
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: bad one, good one bad when it's time for a
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: good one, Bony. I don't know if that now, if
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: that plays out. I like hearing that from Pollock because
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: it makes me feel like maybe I know what I'm
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: talking about.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I realize it's very possible. I don't.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: But those are the two local teams bone that I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: have hyped up, that I believe are going to be
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: better than last year, and I think can be you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: have good seasons that make their fans happy. And I
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: hope wolf Pack fans and Gamecock fans start to get excited.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I hope y'all start to get engaged and talk about
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: your teams. Now we got to get to the bad,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the negative bone from the national media on a couple
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: of Look, yeah, one's pretty obvious, isn't it. I mean,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it's just has been that sort of week for Carolina football.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: It's not a good day for Fiddy. Has McDonald's order
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: got canceled. Now he's got to step.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: Up to the mic.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: That is rough.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: That is a rough morning for our man. But I
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: feel like everybody. This should be hug Guitar Hill Day.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Everybody give au Tarhill fan a hug day. This has
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: been a tough tough week. Unless, of course, you hate
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Carolina and you don't like the fans, then I guess
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you won't be. Oh, they're bones hugging Fitny right now.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: That was very nice to bone the Duke fan to
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: hug Fitny. The latest is Rhys Davis talking about Bill
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Belichick and him basically coming into college football bone maybe
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: thinking it would be easier than it was. Listening to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: some reeese Davis on the ESPN College Football Podcast.
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: My observation is that both he and Mike Lombardi, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: perhaps with some degree of justification based on their track
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: record and success, but they severely overestimated their ability to
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: elevate talent with schemes and football acumen at that level
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: of college football, the level of developed talent. And when
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: I say that, I don't mean to cast aspersions at
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: the North Carolina players. Players develop at different rates. My
• 27:56
  Speaker 9: contention is they believe they could take players who baby
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: had potential long range and elevate them very quickly because
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: they had If I might borrow from the great Football
• 28:07
  Speaker 9: philosopher jazz wise, they felt they had a decided schematic
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: advantage and they did not chass once.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Oh man, Yes, decided schematic advantage.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: You talk about coaching and the job that with Belichick,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: because it has been bachel Lombardi week, and my lord,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I know we've participated.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: And my god, I Sam Watson said, the only thing
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: that can unite in America is Michael lombardin and.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: That is a very good way.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: But in these divided times, both both parties and everybody
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: could come together on that. But now I feel like
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: it's time to give Belichick a little bit and Belichick's
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: can get ripped to ultimately for giving Lombardy that job
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and putting so much trust that he can be the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: personnel guy there when he's never had that experience before
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: in the college game. But the one thing you have
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to say about Belichick two not only did come in
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I think feeling like, oh, I'll coach these guys. I'll
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: just give them to me. I'll coach them up. I'm
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the greatest of all time. And it wasn't that simple. Also, Bone,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe the knucklehead moments that they had last
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: year with penalties, with turnovers, with lack of discipline. How
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: many times did we say last year, how is this
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: a Bill Belichick coach football team? Like they are doing
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the stuff that bad coach badly coach football teams do.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Overall, that was one of the biggest shocks last year
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: But what's interesting about that is Belichick was also starting
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to lose it in the NFL as well. Yeah, they
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: were not as well coached as they were in their heyday.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Obviously things had changed, but even the things that were
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: staples of Belichick coach teams MAC were questioned at the
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: NFL level. Has the game passed a buy well that
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: he goes to another level of football? And it seems
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: like the same things that were becoming problems in the
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: pros became a much bigger problem at college. So the
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: name Belichick goes a long way. But is that dude.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Is that dude still Belichick or is he is he
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: losing a big time way also?
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Or is he just the the puppet for his muse,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: for his lovely muse Rhys Davis Reece Davis, he was
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Reese was mocking. I should have pulled that clip to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Reese who you know is like the most respectful, like Haynga.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: He was mocking the whole muse thing. But that's Bill
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Belichick's words. He literally said that about George Nudson. Have
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: any of y'all out there described your lady as your muse?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: As as your how you say the word muse? Muse? Right? Yeah?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: M u s e? Or has?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I started questioning my bill letter word.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Don't spell m u l e any of you guys.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just a pumper for my mule. Has anybody? Has
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: anybody ever described their their girl as either a muse
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: or mule? Feel free to text in seven oh four
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: five seven City would take either right now?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: All right, so let's get to one last clip here. Bone.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I know this is gonna break your heart because this
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: is Joel Klatt from Fox Sports on his podcast being
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: a bit negative about Dabbo Ah Sweeney and the Clemson Tiger.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: He he seems to think, y'all tigraph stop. It could
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: be starting to turn on Dabo.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: I think Clemson fans at this point are saying to themselves,
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: we like you. But so that's the category he falls into.
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: We like you but there is a huge pressure point
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: for Dabbo. Miami in their fifth game. Now they've got LSU.
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: It could be LSU. You might be right, but Miami's
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: in conference. Clemson has run the ACC, run it. They
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: have dominated the ACC. Now it seems like Miami's conference,
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: and you start to wonder to yourself, what's the gap,
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: what's the margin?
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: How?
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: Why is it is Miami head and shoulders above Clemson?
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: They were a year ago, they were a year ago.
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: Miami's gonna be loaded again again. Miami's going to be fantastic.
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: They open with LSU that it's gonna be tough if
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: that goes poorly, and then Miami goes poorly. We like you,
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: but turns into something very different, very very different.
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  Speaker 3: I've been there before, Guys. You don't want to hear that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: What's very different? I like you, but that was how
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: my last date went. What that speed day you were on?
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Where the clock was the shot clock was running? Yeah?
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Do you think Fitty didn't get extra time? I guess
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: soccer game either?
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, did not? Did not?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Do you think Clemson fans and I would ask Clemson fans, Williamson,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I would ask Clemson fans are out there listen, like,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: are y'all at that point?
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: I like you?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But or are you at the the or are you
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: at that point where it is like they're not at
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the point where they want to change?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Are they? I would? I would think no.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Although our guy t Time, who's a big Clemson fan
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: on the text line is he wants Stabbo out. But
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: then we have Doc on the text line, a Clemson
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: fan who's not. So is it a divided thing? Is
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: it to each individual? I don't know if there's a
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: consentus on that? Also, Mac is what's the vibe for Clemson?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Are you what makes this a successful year in the
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: mind of the Clemson fan? I can't answer that because
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: obviously I'm not. But what would Clemson fans be happy
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: with twenty six?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It's the expectations have completely changed, there's no doubt, Like
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: it can't and Dabbo created the high expectations. But it
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: has to be downgraded, doesn't it to the point where
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: if you win nine games? But are Clemson fans willing
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to downgrade it?
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Are they willing to say nine wins after last season?
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: With all we lost of last year's seven win team,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: that's a good season, like they're picked to finish fourth
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: in the ACC. Is that a good season? That's a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: fascinating conversation. We've got to explore more with Clemson fans
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: in terms of like what know what, what are you lowering?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Lowering your standard?
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: My god, there's the same texts coming in over and
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: over and over again. Uh, it's pronounced.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Muse like m u z. Yeah, I gotta get a
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Z sound in there. I was saying, muse, you gotta
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: get the muse in there.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You mean kind of like you mean, kind of like
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: some fans put a Z in Clemson some I noticed,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: some media.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: And Clemson as well. Also clemp Son. That's another one
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: there from the rivals. They put a P in that
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: climp Son. Some people put a P some people. Good
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: humor there, that is true. Please don't spell Duke crawng
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: with two o's. By the way, when we come back
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: here on the mac in Bone Show, Oh it's random
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: crap time, that's right. Tony Romo continues to have one
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: of the most talked about du wise ever. You have
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: to hear audio of LaVar ball and and him describing
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Mellow's traffic behavior. Speaking of traffic behavior, the macers, it's
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: gonna call somebody out. Sports Radio Hobby ninety seven WFNZ.
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  Speaker 6: Random crap, random crap, Mac and Bone Talk, random crap,
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone Talk, random crap, random,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: random crap, random crap, random crap.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Deuce, fuck crap, Oh crap.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: We stink like a baby's blowout infested diaper.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: They talk about crap that is random. It's the Queen
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: City's favorite morning tandem, Mac and Bone. Random crap. Mac
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and Bone. All right, let's do it. Uh, it is
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: time for all the misfit topics.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: They don't fit anywhere else in the show, but man,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: they're fun to talk about, so we put them in
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: random crap. Here on a Thursday Mac and Bone Radio show. Bone,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: what's ec up to?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: On Twitter? What is ec?
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: Or?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Might have an Instagram? Actually, what's e c up to?
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: On social media? I'll say teasing the Hornets fans with
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: a post that has a picture of him and Dell
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: and talks about this was yesterday, so he means today
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: now that they've got something coming today and it included
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a Hamburger emoji.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Bone, what's going on here? Is there gonna be a
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Dell burger out there? Someone?
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: What is that? What is is that?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Del Friscozi? Do you have a guest here? Bony? What's
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: going on when Dell he's messing with us? Man, I'm
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: trying to think.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, So with the hamburger emoji, that that's not a
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: TV announcement right if it's got a hamburger with it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I would say if they had like a little TV
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: set emoji, maybe that would be the dizonne announcement of
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: some sports a hamburger emoji. So our Dell and ec
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: they were in they were sitting next to each other.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Was that a commercial shoot?
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: Maybe?
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Are they doing on commercial for a burger somewhere? What
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: thought they may have had like a little bit of
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: the green screen kind of behind? Are they maybe your
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: they've got an ad coming out together the hum Diddley
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: cheese burger. I hate something that name named the E
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: C Burger. Oh, you can name a whole menu the
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: swagger of an You could do a whole menu of
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: fast food named after East and Gets phrases. But anyway,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: I guess we don't know, but I want to let
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: you know, keep an eye out. It seems like E
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: C and Dell have something going on today. I don't
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: think it's some big basketball announcement here. I believe it's
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: something Sturry Trade. People are already asking is it just
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Telly Trade? But what's a Hamburg?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Trying to go through? E?
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: C says he doesn't have a You didn't say anyth
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: about a burger, does he? I'm trying to think of
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: like what he says. I try to tie it together,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: but I don't.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Tougher than a two dollars steak, but that's not necessarily
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: a good thing. If what do you think of steak cat?
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: What if Del Friscos does the del curry Del Frisco's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: two dollars steak?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Probably? What if it's a burger with Dell pickles? Dell pickles.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: We've gone, We've used our our otment of picking. Okay,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: let's stop trying.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Let's stop trying our handed comedy, and let's get to
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the real comedian LaVar Ball LaVar Ball I podcast, lavarn
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: not talking Clemson, He's not talking a tabo.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: LaVar Ball went their bone.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I I gotta be honest, I I I'm so glad
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: this question was asked of him about Lamello's driving, and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: when LaMelo learned to drive?
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Listen to this, This is this humor is me. I'm
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: trying to nott a whop.
• 38:27
  Speaker 10: Did you teach you how to drive?
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Of course?
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: Oh my boys are driving at ten eleven years old.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Well he's been driving.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: He's been seen as a liability on the road.
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, of course that's because you're watching on the
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: YouTube all day. I don't act like nobody ain't never
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: had no accident. To show you how raggedy is his
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: representation is I would have had a commercial with State
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: Farm or somebody by flip the strip.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: There's a lot to go there, Ovar trying to make
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: money off of this deal with State Farm, and it's
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: oh my god. Also, my sons have been driving since
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: ten or eleven? Could did you see Wamelo dri.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: A ten year old?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: He right over a ten year old here, Charlotte, I
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: feel like he might not have improved since he was ten. Seriously, LeVar,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: do you want to tell the world you had to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: have boys driving? They were there ten and it's not
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: just like the such raggedy representation. Also such oh he'll
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: he'll go after anybody, won't he. Now we can laugh
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: because it's not our problem. LaVar is not our problem anymore.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Now we could just laugh. Good luck, Minnesota. But it's
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: not just the wreck that we all saw that went
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: viral like it's the way he pulls out the damn
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: parking garage. It's the lawsuit that you mentioned. Come on, man,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: it's not just one solitary wreck.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: There Wovar ten or eleven with your kids driving, that
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: might be part of the problem. Did they improve since?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, all right, you would think if he
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: started when they were ten, they would be better.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Also, people only watch him on YouTube. No, we actually
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: saw him before driving though people have seen him leaving,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: not on YouTube.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: It's no better. It's no better in person.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: LaVar.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: No man, no looks scary anyway, he's got him. Make
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: sure he's matured. He has matured some, but they're still
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: maturing to do. I wanted to bring up bone the
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: dude on the road yesterday that made me mad, so
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I did. Uh, this is a total pet peeve of mine.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I you know, we're in traffic and I let the
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: guy cross right to the other he's pulling out and
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: he wants to take a left onto the other side.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Of the street from that I'm on.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I stop, and not only do I stop
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: and create that gap there where I don't have to.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I could have gone up. There's there's a few car
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: lets where I could have drove up into. But I
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: so I stopped early because we're not really going anywhere,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: and I let him go through.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I also do the I do the spotter thing for him.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I look and see what's coming, and I tell him
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: hold it, hold it, hold it, And then I see, okay,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: there's no car coming now, and I wave him through.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: What a class guy you this dude? Give me no
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: courtesy way, no no Curtsey way. And I stared at
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: him the whole way through, right past me, past me.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: You're up the side of me now, just didn't even
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: look at me.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: How do you not courtesy wave someone when they stopped
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: their car to let you go through, and they do
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the spotter thing or they tell you okay now just
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: for freaking come over your and turn life. Because he
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: couldn't see he couldn't see those cars bone because of
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: my lanees traffic in front of him.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: So anyway, how about you just I mean that chat
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: my booty man burg your biscuits. You uh, you became
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: the spotter and still couldn't get recognition.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: It's not unbelievable. Man, I went above and beyond for
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: this Brosky.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: I had a person the other day when I was
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: driving through the Harris Teter parking lot, Mac and obviously
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I let this person walk past my car, a younger guy, Mack.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: He was walking so slow, looking at his phone, and
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: he stopped and started to like send a text while
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: I let him go through. I'm thinking, oh my god,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: paying no attention, by the way, what and I'm sitting there.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I was about ten seconds. I didn't want to honk
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: the horn and like terrify the guy, but I'm thinking,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: how unaware are you that someone just let you walk
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: through the parking lot, and yet you can't just get
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: past the car and look at your phone and start
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: doing whatever you're doing.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Oh that dude, I'd betend to hit the gas pedal
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: on that full just say that out loud on the radio.
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: I got.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: I'll go one step for that.
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: A guy.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Last time I was going to Walmart and he Mac didn't.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Even know show no tar heels jokes please?
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I didn't check to see either he started
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: walking the middle of the road, and I mean just
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: starts casually walking.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I yelled at him that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: I should have put him in the pavement because I
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: drive by him. He said he can't hear me, obviously,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: but in like three seconds, the amount of road rage
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I got.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: I wanted to find him in the walmart.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Don't go flounder, man, don't go flounder. Flounder almost got
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: hit with a batman because Israel rage.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: He gets that pounds to protect him. Then he gotta
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: go zen baby, you gotta take some deep breath. Come on,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Speaking of driving the Tony Romo, you know Tony Romo
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: gets the Dui after the golf tournament in Wisconsin.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: We talked this.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: This video is up online Bone of the dashcam footage
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: from the cop and we talked about the fact that
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: he said he's going to Grandma and Grandpa's house. That's
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: where he was headed after this golf tournament that he
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: played in that he was drinking at, and we.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Through the woods. He goes almost actually drove through the woods.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. I did not know this Bone until
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: after the show.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: There also is a clip in there of him before
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: he starts to do the sobriety test where he is
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: loosening up like he's getting ready to play in an
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: NFL game.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: He's like doing stretches.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I got a BAM back officer and he's like doing
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: stretches before the DUI test.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Just is that that's gotta be a rare occasion.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking, Yeah, he was more active than some of
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: the players will be at fan festiv our. Right, did
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: you hear about the one phone.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Call he got? I didn't hear about that.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: He dialed the number and the other guy said, hello, friend, Oh, Jim, Jim,
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: I've got a situation. Let me called Gene.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Jane, Jane, get me out of here.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: Jean.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: All right, say Tony, I'm up here, and it looks
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: like you your but I'll go a little either.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Last but night, Jean, last but not least good ruling there.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Last but not least Willie p was as I was
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: was at the All Star Game last night. Great credos,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: seven goals, MLS wins, freaking awesome event. But anyway, Willie
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Pea's tweet must be discussed. Hands hand raised. I underestimated
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: how much of Sierra Sierra did the halftime show last night.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I underestimated how much of Sierra's catalog I knew slash
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: how into this halftime show. I would be Oh, was
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the p man in the press box dancing around the
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Sierra last night?
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: And you you tweeted out this morning you need to
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: see him dance footage of him dancing in the past,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: for when he did the victory dance. It's hot potato dance.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: You're just a sheltered, uncultured swine.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I would not have pegged Willie p as a big
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Sierra fan. I honestly, I don't know how I missed.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Like someone was saying, like she played all her hits
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: last night. I heard someone say, and I'm like she was.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: She was doing it for a while time I did.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know like what her hits were like.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Somehow I missed Sierra's music. The only thing I know
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Sierra for is under kicking her coverage and uh and
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: and marrying that dork Russ, Like she could do so much.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I know Russ is rich and famous, but so is she.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: She could do so much better than that cheesy dork
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: That did bothers me. That's what I was thinking of
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: you talking about miss Unlimited Unlimited.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Oh p Man did that unlimited dance last night, apparently
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: when we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Panther's White Jim Brentson Bugner, we saw him a practice practice.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: We saw my practice the other day. He's gonna give
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: us his Panther Camp observation. Sports Radio ninety two seven
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