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Rick Mast Talks Top NASCAR Playoff Storylines! · Kenny Wallace Media

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  Boom, there it is. There we go.
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  The great Rick Mast. I'm Charlie Marlowe.
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  This is another live edition of the Rick Mast show.
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  I love these Rick. I think the the viewers love
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  these as well. We're going to give people some
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  time to jump in here and they can ask questions and all that,
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  but First off, man, how have you been?
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  Been good, Charlie. It's been a while, right?
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  We got to get more of these going.
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  We spent Labor Day weekend. Let's see, what do we do?
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  So Katie came in from Colorado, right?
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  So we had to go to the UVA football game Saturday night,
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  came back, then we had to go take the boat out Sunday to the
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  lake. I put a video out about that in
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  a damn monsoon. But man, when you're married and
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  you got all girls around you, you do what you're told, you
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  know? So we did that all day Sunday.
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  Then Monday we went down to the Rockbridge Bass Labor Day
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  festivities and got support barbecue and then took Katie
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  back to the airport. And that was my weekend.
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  So fun time. Fun time.
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  I love it now. I I did pick up.
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  You were saying we had to go to the football game and we had to
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  go to the lake. Like it, like it.
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  It was an obligation. Come on now.
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  Are you married, Charlie? I am, yes.
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  Do you have a daughter? I do, yes.
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  How old is she? She is 6 1/2.
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  She's in first grade. You just wait about 10 years,
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  big boy. You'll understand.
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  You'll understand what I mean. Yes.
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  You do what you're told, Ben. Hey, dude, I've been married for
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  40. Whatever.
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  Some years, right? I mean, long have I been
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  married, got married in 78. However many years that is.
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  I don't know. But yeah, I learned long ago,
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  just just go along. Especially when you got 2 twin
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  daughters, right? Just go along.
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  Just go along. Makes it, I love it.
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  Makes makes life much easier guys.
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  That's so true. Happy wife, happy life and I
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  guess happy daughters. We have to, we have to think of
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  a rhyme for that one. But that's for we got people
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  jumping in now. So folks who are watching, get
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  your questions in. I said hi there, even though I'm
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  not Kenny Wallace, but I'm representing Kenny Wallace.
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  So that's not Kenny, that's me. But let's start off here, Rick.
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  How about just big picture thoughts on Darlington?
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  I thought that was a a hell of a finish.
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  I was rooting the last couple weeks.
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  I wanted to see Kyle Busch get into the playoffs.
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  It didn't happen. He's running better.
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  But what a what a great story with Chase Briscoe.
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  Yeah, it was. I mean, how can you, you can't
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  script a better deal, right, for the final race.
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  I mean, that that's what that's what this whole thing's about.
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  I mean, you've got two guys there that are are going for the
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  win and going to get in, get into the playoffs.
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  Dude, at the end of that race, you know, one of those two that
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  you didn't think was going to get in the playoffs are going to
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  get in the playoffs unless they wreck each other's last lap,
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  right? And then you've got the I mean,
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  you got the whole story with Kyle Busch.
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  You know, how did he get he went from the villain man to the most
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  loved guy on the racetrack now. It's wild.
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  It's wild how this sport works, right?
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  I mean, you go, who was it? Carl Edwards asked somebody to
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  driver introduction earlier this year.
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  What happened when Kyle Busch came out and all the fans
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  cheered him instead of booting and like Edward said, what the
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  hell happened to him? He used to get booed all the
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  time, right? It's weird how that works.
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  But man, for the final race and Briscoe winning that thing and
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  you know, the storylines on that deal, I mean, Hall's shutting
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  down, right? And all the guys working and
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  still putting it out there and putting it together and they win
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  the race. I mean, that's a big deal, dude.
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  I mean, a lot of time and we've seen this, man, the drivers
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  going to leave at the end of the year or the the crew chiefs
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  leaving or whatever, the team's getting disbanded for the next
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  year. It's not going to be the same.
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  And I've seen it, man, People give up, they give up, right?
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  And and and they just don't run good the rest of the year.
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  This this proves fortitude with that team.
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  It the guys that work on that for halls.
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  I mean, it's a it's a big deal to win that race for those guys,
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  right? I mean, you know, they're all
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  changing jobs or out of jobs or whatever is going on next year
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  and then they come up and win this race.
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  And then for NASCAR to have, you know, the criticism they get for
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  the points deal, which I think is unfounded now.
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  I mean, we've got our we've got our system in place now.
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  And that's that's what it's going to be.
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  And it adds excitement, it adds drama.
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  It does all those things. No, it's not what it used to be.
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  It's not it's not the point system of old, but it's it's a
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  more exciting point system. And Saturday or Sunday night
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  proved that at Darlington, man, just just a neat deal.
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  Neat deal for all those guys, really.
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  Now the Harrison Burton deal, they've been catching grief,
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  right? He's last place in points and
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  he's in the playoffs now. And people are are fussed about
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  that. But listen, when you go to
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  Daytona in February, everybody knows the rules.
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  The rules are if you win a race, you're in the playoffs, right?
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  So you know, it, it, it, it's, it doesn't mean anything.
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  I mean it, you know how he does the playoffs, Maybe he can turn
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  it around and show people wrong or maybe he'll run like they did
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  the biggest part of the season, not be there.
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  But the rules are what they are, right?
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  And and you play it that way. You do whatever you got to do to
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  what try to win a rate if you're not doing well, not running
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  well, all right for points with the only way to get in is to win
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  any year in and he did other than Austin Dillard.
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  Austin Dillard won, but he wasn't in right.
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  He got he was in, but he got taken out.
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  So I understand the criticism, but I understand that.
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  But the rules are what they are and it makes them excited you.
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  It's exciting to have first Harrison Burton in the in the
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  deal because he is the last place finish your in points, but
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  he's into friggin playoffs. How does that work?
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  It's called wild card in in the in the NFL.
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  However you want to look at it, right, You look at it, you kind
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  of look at well, it's not sort of like it is a little bit like
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  that. But listen, dude, the rules are
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  what they are. They're in the playoffs.
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  The Wood Brothers got their hundredth win, which was so
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  friggin cool and special and I'm so happy with those guys, right.
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  And you know what? We'll start the playoffs to see
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  what happens. Yeah, let's go back to that
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  because we didn't do a show after that race.
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  And you talk about a feel good story for 5000 different
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  reasons. First of all, Wood Brothers, you
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  really realize it seems like the whole NASCAR world pulls for The
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  Wood Brothers. And then you got Harrison
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  Burton, who loses his ride. His dad, Jeff Burton, the mayor,
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  is up in the broadcast booth. You probably saw the video of
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  just an epic fist pump when he wins.
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  You got the hug down there and just take the racing out of it.
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  This is also why we love sports. As a dad, as a father, I got
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  goosebumps just watching that, watching him hug his kid, the
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  fist bump, his mom, his fiance. I mean, that was an amazing
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  story. That's why people love sports
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  for, for stories like that. It was great.
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  It was and you got it. And what makes it so special?
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  A couple things #1 The Wood Brothers 100th win, right #2
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  what you just talked about in Harrison Burton winning the
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  race. But but, but, but, but what he's
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  been through the last two or three years.
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  OK. And what what's how what's
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  transpired? Oh, I mean, The Wood Brothers,
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  that ride was his first big time shot at at Cup racing.
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  And you kind of floundered around and what for whatever
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  reasons, they just haven't run good to perform.
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  And he lost his ride, man. They fired him, right?
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  You know, you're not performing. You know, we've given you ample
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  time. We feel like as a team, but and
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  everybody loves Harrison. He loves those guys.
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  They all love each other. But I don't take something.
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  If you drive for The Wood Brothers, everybody's going to
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  love everybody. I don't care who you are, you'll
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  end up loving everybody. That's just that's just the
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  culture that Lynn and Eddie have, right?
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  And now the new group with John and everybody, and it started
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  with with Leonard and his brothers and, and, and it's
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  just, it just kind of goes into a feeling that like, man, you
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  know, this is the craziest scenario that could possibly be.
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  And from the from the Burton family that, you know, race has
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  been their whole life for years now and the their, their child
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  gets a shot in a, in a, in a top cup ride and it doesn't work out
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  and he gets fired, right? And you're down and you're
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  dejected and you've done every all the right things for years
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  to get to this position and you're fired.
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  Dude, I'm a driver and I got fired.
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  My son just got fired, right? And what's he going?
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  What we going to do? What's he going to do next?
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  We don't know. Then you turn around and you go
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  to Daytona and you win the Fraggin race at Daytona and
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  you're in the Fraggin playoffs, man.
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  It's just it's, you know, the emotional part for that family,
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  what what you saw play out on TV.
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  None of that was scripted. None of that was, you know, put
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  on that was true emotions fact. It was it was more emotional
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  than that than what you saw, to be honest with you.
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  But listen, man, that that's racing and as you say, that
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  sport, and that's what that's what sports are supposed to do
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  for for the force and and and and NASCAR, they hit him at they
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  hit a home run with that one. They really did.
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  OK, so let's let's flip back to Darlington for a couple reasons.
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  As I'm watching that race at the end there, I'm thinking about
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  Chris Buscher because you have you have Tyler Reddick and we'll
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  get to him winning the regular season championship and also
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  going through a lot in his car, puking, essentially crapping
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  himself, which we heard on the radio.
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  But then he he kind of wanted to move on from that, which I get
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  Bob Pockras kept asking about it in the press conference, which
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  was really funny. But go back to the first
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  Darlington race, right? That's May.
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  And then also remember Bush Busher lost that race to Larson
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  by like that much. Where was that at?
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  I can't remember where. That was at.
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  I do remember that. But somebody, somebody will tell
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  us here in the comments, but you got Chris Buscher, who for the
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  most part deserved to be in the playoffs.
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  He lost that race to Larson by by that much.
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  And then, of course, Reddick got too aggressive at Darlington.
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  Everybody remembers the exchange and Buscher kind of roughed him
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  up a little bit. It didn't turn into a fight
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  because Reddick immediately just said, look, man, I'm sorry I
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  screwed up. But like, that's what I
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  initially thought of because here's here's Tyler Reddick and
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  he's celebrating with the regular season trophy.
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  Chris Buscher is so dejected afterwards and all he's probably
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  thinking is, dude, you won the regular season.
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  If you just race me a little cleaner back in May, I'm in the
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  playoffs. Yeah, Chris didn't have a real
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  good interview after that race. You know, he kind of did some
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  stuff, but I understood. I did the same thing.
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  Charlie. I thought the same thing.
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  As soon as they went to that guy, I'm like, damn, Reddit cost
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  him this. He he should be in this deal if
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  it wasn't for that wreck with Reddick.
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  I thought it so if you were thinking it Charlie and I was
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  thinking it, I got an I got a sneaky suspicion that Butcher
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  was thinking the same thing right.
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  And probably when he was giving that interview, he was probably
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  sitting there cussing Reddick the whole time under his breath.
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  But it was it would do no good. And he no, he had, he had to be
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  thinking about that. He had to be because that I
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  mean, really, dude, one race, you know, they all say it's 23
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  races. One race doesn't decide.
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  But I'll tell you what that one race did decide for Butcher.
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  It really did. That boy should have been in the
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  playoffs. If Reddick hadn't done that,
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  he'd have been in the playoffs. And I got an idea.
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  That's why Buscher said some of the stuff he did.
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  He was so dejected, he was probably thinking about I need
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  to go quip that damn rhetoric boy right right now.
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  But I can't say that right now because it doesn't make any,
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  doesn't make any sense. So yeah, I think you're spot on
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  on that. Charlie, all right, I have to
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  ask you then if you if you want to answer, what's the worst you
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  ever felt in the car from a from a sickness perspective?
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  And and I'm not talking about I'm just talking about what he
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  was going through, which is probably flu like symptoms.
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  Again, you heard on the radio, he basically, he basically said
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  some gross stuff. He didn't want to get into it.
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  And if if anybody has access to that press conference, it's
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  pretty funny. It's right off the bat.
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  It's, I believe, Dustin Long and Bob podcast asking the questions
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  and Tyler Reddick's having some fun with it.
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  He's smiling, but he's also saying, OK, can we move on?
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  I don't really want to describe what actually happened in the
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  fire suit, which was probably pretty disgusting.
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  I never defecated and never threw up in a race car, but I
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  was close many, many times. And I guess we were Charlotte or
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  somewhere and I had food poisoning.
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  Dude. We started the race, man, and
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  I've been I I, you know, I've been an infield care and they
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  pumped me with Ivsi mean they filled me up with fluids and
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  doing all they could do. They worked on me starting that
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  morning all day right till the race started and just felt like
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  crap. The race started.
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  I'm like, man, there's no way. But as the race went on, I
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  started feeling better and better.
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  And finally, I think we talked about this earlier that it was a
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  rain delay late at night, right? And we had a rain delay maybe
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  3/4 the way through the race. And I'm sitting there in the car
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  and I'm like, yeah, I'm hungry. I called my PR guy.
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  He went and got me a piece of chicken and brought to the race
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  car. So I ate it while I was sitting
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  there waiting on the radio. So, you know, it, it worked its
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  way out of the system. Big, big credit to the infield
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  care staff to do that. But I remember when you, if you
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  remember, Smoke did that at Watkins Glen, right?
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  He had a little issue and he won the race, actually.
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  And I think he had to go jump in the shower real quick.
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  But man, you, you fight through a lot of discomfort and race
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  cars. The worst I ever felt the race
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  car, honestly, I broke, I broke some ribs at Bristol one time.
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  And the next week we had to go to Texas and race.
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  And gosh, I forget the group that was at the racetrack then
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  it was one of the groups, medical groups.
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  Anyhow, they, they fashioned me a donut, like a piece of plastic
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  or foam rubber doughnut that went around my rib cage with a
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  hole in the sitter and it, it protected, it protected where
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  the ribs were actually broke. And then they gave me a 10s unit
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  and I put the 10s unit on me. If you know what a 10s unit is,
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  it's 2 little dyos with wires. You put one up above the brake
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  and one below the brake and you got a little dial thing, a
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  little control box, and you set that thing from zero to 10.
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  And, and if you ever had a Ted unit, you know what I'm talking
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  about. And so I would, I would, I was
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  messing with that thing and you set it up to like two or three.
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  It's about all the about all you could take It would it makes
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  pain sort of man. They dropped the green flag in
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  five laps. I had that dude turn to 10 all
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  the way up far as it would go right.
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  And it's just a just a miserable experience in that race car that
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  day. I remember we came in for the
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  first pit stop, they jacked it up and let it down on the right
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  side. They come around on the left
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  side, jacked it up, put tires on, let the Jack down, let down
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  hard. I thought I was going to friggin
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  die bad. I thought I started seeing stars
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  and I fussed up. I said, guys, don't let the Jack
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  down so damn hard from now on, just let it down easy.
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  You're killing me, right? But that was my worst experience
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  trying to drive a race car with pain, OK?
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  And it's not fun, but you overcome it.
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  You know? That's what you get paid to do.
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  And folks, get your questions in.
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  We'll we'll talk a little bit more about these last couple
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  races and then we'll get to all your questions.
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  So get your questions in the queue and we will get to them
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  right after this. Do you think, Rick, is it good
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  for the sport? Is it good for the sport that
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  the playoffs are so difficult to make because the win and you're
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  in that you have some great drivers, in one case a Hall of
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  Famer. I mean, look at the cut off
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  Chris Buscher, Bubba Wallace, Ross Chastain, Kyle Busch.
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  I'll just mention the the first four out.
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  I mean, I think most people want to see Kyle Busch in.
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  I think NASCAR wants to see Kyle Busch in.
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  He's good for business. Ross Chastain, the last couple
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  years, very exciting. Bubba Wallace is always part of
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  all the storylines. Buscher's been very solid.
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  So look, you got some guys which we mentioned, the Briscoes, the
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  Burtons, Cindric Suarez who are in.
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  I think it makes the sport much more an entertaining for TV and
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  we've kind of touched on that. But do you think is that
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  outweighed by the fact that somebody like a Kyle Busch or
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  Ross Chastain are not in the playoffs and and you have some
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  superstar level talent that's not on display with a chance to
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  win it? Yeah, How do you guarantee it?
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  I mean, yeah, your, your your points are valid.
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  Charlie. Kyle Busch.
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  We NASCAR needs Kyle Busch in the playoffs, right?
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  The storylines with Bubba Wallace being in the playoffs
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  would be big for NASCAR, right? Those, those are two big ones
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  right there. The deal with Buscher, right?
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  I mean, yeah, those guys, the way they run, the way they
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  compete, the way they performed all year, they should be they
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  should be in the playoffs and, and, and but they're not They
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  didn't do what they needed to do to get in the playoffs.
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  And and again, I go back to the Burton deal.
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  You know, the rules are what they are.
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  You know, we, we, this thing was changed years ago, dude, they
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  call it the Bat Kenseth points deal, right?
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  When Matt won the championship that year, whatever year it was
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  and he had it won what 3 races to go or something right on the
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  old system and people just raised holy hell.
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  Then about all the fans raising hell.
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  How's that guy? He won one race and he's our
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  champion, right? Or whatever it was.
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  It was a boring, boring, a boring type championship, you
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  might say. And I don't I'm not saying that
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  to degrade Bat or what those guys did Robbie and all these
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  guys. It was great winning that
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  championship, but that's what drove that's what drove us to
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  get to where we're at with this with this point still now, how
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  do you guarantee that your best drivers are going to get in
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  there? You're not going to do that
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  right? It's you know, this this year
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  here proves that you're not going to have or what we
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  perceive as our best drivers to be in the same or what we
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  perceive as the drivers that should be or need to be in in
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  the playoffs for the publicity for NASCAR.
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  You can't you know, you can't script that stuff.
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  I mean, you set up this thing the way it's set up and the guys
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  that get in get in. The ones that don't don't.
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  I mean, it's it's really, it's really no more complicated than
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  that. But yeah, it it to your point,
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  those guys, it would be good for us and good for NASCAR if they
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  were in the race. But but by not being there, that
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  creates another storyline, Charlie, that we're talking
• 18:30
  about, You know, we're all talking about these guys.
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  I've been, I've been reading it now every day since since the
• 18:35
  race ended, right. And the guys, that's not in it.
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  And like, well, that's, that's creating a storyline here,
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  right. But then we go to, I guess
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  they're doing a little TV series for the guys that's in the point
• 18:46
  still, right. And like last year, who was it?
• 18:50
  Chase didn't make the deal. And so everybody was all upset
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  that Chase wasn't going to be part of that mini docu TV
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  series. They did.
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  Yeah. So you know, I don't know a lot
• 19:01
  of things figure into it. But listen dude, we're going to
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  Atlanta. The guys that send the points,
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  This is her 4th 1st deal to go after.
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  So all we can do is talk about what happens from here here on.
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  Out Here's a good question. I never thought about stage
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  breaks in this capacity. This is from Rick Brian
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  Lacortic. He says if you're at the race
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  having some beers, it's nice to know when the break is going to
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  come. And that's interesting because I
• 19:29
  never really thought about that. If you're thinking about
• 19:31
  football, the end of 1/4 halftime baseball, the inning
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  ends, the home team hits, you run to the bathroom, you get
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  your beer. That's kind of a a nice added
• 19:41
  bonus of the stage breaks. What do you think?
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  I never thought about that either, not from the from the
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  finance perspective. Yeah, that is pretty cool.
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  But you know what, It's going to overrun the bathrooms.
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  That's a problem like half time at the football games or, you
• 19:54
  know, in between any and sometime at the baseball games,
• 19:56
  you run to the bathroom. Well, everybody else is there
• 19:58
  waiting on you or you run to the beer stand or the coach stand or
• 20:01
  the hot dog stand. But yeah, that, that that's a
• 20:04
  pretty, that's a pretty good take there.
• 20:05
  Dude. I hadn't really thought about
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  that. I bet you the hierarchy and
• 20:09
  NASCAR has thought about it. You know, they don't a lot of
• 20:12
  that stuff they know, but they don't talk about.
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  But yeah, that's a pretty good deal.
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  I like that. And I, you know, from a driver's
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  perspective. It's it's kind of a cool deal.
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  Of course, I never did it. We didn't do it when I raced.
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  But I'm like, that'd be kind of cool as a driver to know it's
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  such a such lap. You're going to get a caution,
• 20:29
  right? And you can do some kind of
• 20:31
  adjustment or you can do something for yourself or
• 20:34
  whatever you need to do. Because before that, you know,
• 20:38
  you didn't never, you didn't know when he's going to get a
• 20:39
  caution or get a break or what, what you can do to your chassis,
• 20:42
  man. It's just a cool deal, I think
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  for a driver to to, to have that.
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  And that's a cool deal for the fans, man.
• 20:48
  Cool deal. Good, good thought, my man, Good
• 20:50
  thought. I like that.
• 20:52
  It's funny though and when I used to do radio I'd always say
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  this and I know the the Cardinals organization didn't
• 20:57
  like hearing this but it's the truth from my perspective.
• 21:00
  Now don't get me wrong, first of all, I love it when the
• 21:04
  Cardinals are great and Busch Stadium is packed 45,000
• 21:08
  especially September, October in the playoffs.
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  For me, a baseball fan, no better place to be.
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  But if it's a day game and there's nobody there, it's easy
• 21:21
  to park, it's easy to get a beer, it's easy to go to the
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  bathroom. And by the way, the Cardinals
• 21:26
  are having some historically record low crowd, so I'm sure
• 21:30
  ownership is very disappointed with that.
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  But if you want cheap tickets and you want easy in and out
• 21:37
  when the team isn't playing well and when the fans are mad, the
• 21:41
  ballpark experience, hey, you know how this is, too.
• 21:43
  I used to, just as a kid at old Tiger Stadium in Detroit, you'd
• 21:46
  buy the $5 tickets and you just keep moving down until the usher
• 21:49
  tells you to stop, right? You try to sit right behind the
• 21:52
  dugout if nobody's there.