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Tommy Green: HolyName | Furnace Fest 2023 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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Today we have Tommy Green with us. I am so stoked about this.
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Tommy. At this point, you are just a good friend of ours and
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you just happen to be in a couple of our favorite bands. But more
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than that, more than that, what I'm looking forward to the most.
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Four months from now, I'm gonna be able to give you a hug.
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Yeah, because we're going to see each other at Furnace Fest and we are
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just so stoked to finally, after all this time that we've spent on a
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podcast, we're gonna actually be able to see each other in person and give
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each other a hug. So just know a few months from now, I'm
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going to be giving you a hug. I love it. I'm a huge
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fan. That's awesome. I'm excited. What about that? Jeez? Hunho
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Okay, So you just are you just talking to all sorts of people that
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are gonna be Furnace Best people? Are are there? All these bands that
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are you're going to get a chance to chat with? Or what I mean?
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It is one of those things where it feels like a family reunion.
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So Cullen and I've been to Furnace Best the last two years and it really
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does feel like a family reunion where you like, maybe you've seen somebody in
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person before, or you maybe have it, but all of a sudden,
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it's like, oh, that's my friend right there. I'm gonna go up
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and give them a hug, and we're going to hang out for for a
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little while. And it's just like every single day you've just constantly seen people
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that you maybe haven't seen in a while or you've never seen in person,
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and you just like get to hang out with them and it's so cool and
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so really for me, it really feels like a family reunion type of deal.
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It's great. That's tight. That was always true hard of being a
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road dog a little bit, as you do meet all these people from all
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over the place, and usually it would be like a festival. If you're
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like at a fest and there's like a couple of people, you're like,
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yeah, there's our guys, and then you could just like chop it up
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all day. That's awesome. That's really cool. I've never been to Furnace
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Fest never ever. And I even back in the early days, no,
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I didn't go. I had friends that would go. I remember my homie
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Kyle, were you in Death Star by that point or what I was,
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but I was. I was like one of the death would have been.
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I was like early member, one of the founding members of Death Start.
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And then I left in two thousand and No we played hell Fest two thousand
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and four. Oh wow, maybe two thousand and three. Anyways, I
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yeah, I left O three or oh four, and so when they were
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touring and they were like fully tour dogs, I was just at home in
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Redlands pastoring the church. So I just was like I was out at that
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point. So I but my homie Kyle, he played base in n IV
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and I remember he came back and like Andrew WK had some insane set that
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year and it was like a party, and I was just like, man,
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I wish I could have gone to that. And then then it was
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like no more. And so I felt like, oh yeah, I kind
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of missed that whole that whole time. Same thing with Cornerstone. I never
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went to Cornerstone until Sleeping Giant played it. I'm pretty sure Sleeping Giant played
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that was my first time, like the first year we got to go.
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I mean we were like playing it. We had this great spot. It
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was like we had an amazing show. And I just remember thinking, whoa,
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like, how long has this thing been going on? This crazy wow?
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So similar, Yeah, Culin and I never got to go to Cornerstone.
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I mean it was one of those things. Every single year, Culin
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and I would go, especially like the Chariot, you know, they would
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always end Cornerstone every year, and I would literally wait on YouTube waiting for
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those those live videos to be posted of their Cornerstone set every single year,
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and so Culin and I used to do that, but we never actually got
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to experience Cornerstone in person, which was really disappointing. One of my favorite
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memories of one of the last Cornerstones that we were at with the Chariot dudes
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was they had this humongous like inflatable ball that just like rolled across the whole
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crowd, and I remember watching Steves like playing guitar and it rolled towards him,
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and I think he tried to like kick it or like keep it away
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from him, and it was so big it just knocked him over. They
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fall and fly everywhere, but this was like a legit, like he couldn't
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hame and it just like took him out. And I remember just laughing with
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him like after anyway, So yeah, those were some of my favorite sets.
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Man the Chariot Cornerstone or that was unmatched. Yeah, they're legendary.
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I wish that they weren't all just like in like four four twenty whatever it
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is for ADP for ADP video quality up on YouTube, because there's some like
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some of the most legendary moments in rock music history. They're better. They're
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better than everybody fight. They're one of those bands like if you could if
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I could have like a dream, I could have like a dream tour to
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just like I could pull people to be a part of anything, um,
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that would be. They're the most punk rock band like ever. I don't
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care what anybody like. They're just the best. And so it's like everything
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that's good about our whole scene is like all happening at the same time because
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it's super heavy, but it's way chaos and it's also uber diy ethic and
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like just talking as it's so punk. They're like the they're the best.
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So they're they're literally like my favorite band out of any SG like season of
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our time, we would say favorite band is The Chariot Barnard. Speaking of
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contemporaries, were you guys pretty tight with the plea for purging guys? Yeah,
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I really really, really really love and respect those dudes a ton and
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uh we Yeah, we got a chance to tour with them, and when
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they came out with the Marriage of Heaven and Hell, I remember just being
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I was so incredibly like I was impressed. It is it is what it
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is, Like I felt like it was a deeply I almost felt like it
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was a prophetic record for that, And I'm like, these guys, it
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was wild watching them not get credit the way that I think we all kind
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of felt like they deserved. And I remember thinking if any part of where
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Andy was coming from SG played into any of the stuff that drove him bananas,
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I was like, please be honest, like even if it's us and
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we're on tour, like you just tell the truth, like whatever it is,
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you know, And and he wasn't that way with us. I don't
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think, you know what I mean, like he was, but I just
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remember feeling like, no, like this is a really powerful indictment of a
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whole lot and wherever any of us are guilty, it was almost like it
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was gangster. I was just like, dude, anyone can get it at
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this point, like this is a crazy record, like and it's it holds
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up. I think to me, it's one of my favorite Facedown records of
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all time. I have to agree. Do you know about their whole story
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about recording it got on? Uh in like one of their earliest recordings.
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You don't know about this? No? Oh my goodness. Andy told us
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this like a few years ago. He was one of our first episodes and
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he talked about I think it was like, was that their EP their first
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EP culling, Yeah, first EP? Yeah, their first EP there literally
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I mean is low budget of low budget. They brought in like this recording
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equipment into essentially like this vacant almost like I think it was a house that's
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gonna was gonna be like torn down or something. It was being yeah,
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it was being foreclosed down. Yeah, it was like this old ass house
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that they were like ready to like you know, close down on and everything.
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And uh, they bring in this recording equipment because they like knew a
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guy that like was owned this place or whatever. And he was also owned
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all right, that's right. And so was this a random ass town in
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like Arkansas or something just in the middle of nowhere, and they like it
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was basically like a free place for them to record and stay at and so
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there, you know, because it was like their first EP had like no
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money. They were just like we'll take whatever. So they were recording,
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and I think they said, like was it like maybe they were recording guitars
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or something, but they were recording and it was just like the two guys
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in the house. I think the other guys like went into town or whatever
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to like hang out. So it was just two guys recording and all of
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a sudden they hear like these noises coming from inside the house, and all
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of a sudden, they hear this like breathy thing in the microphone, like
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you know, they've got their earphones on listening as they're recording, and they
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hear this breath and they're like did you just hear that? And they were
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like yeah, And then they go back and realize that they recorded it and
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they put it in the fucking song. So I think it's like the last
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song on the EP. So if you listen to the song on the EP,
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like at the end, you just hear this like really breathy. I
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can't really make out like what the word might be, but you hear this
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like breathy voice, this ghostly voice, and it's so creepy it is you
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can actually hear it too, like it's not like faked like you can hear
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it. Dan, that's pretty it's pretty incredible. Yeah, it's it's pretty
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great. So anyway, I don't remember what the song is, but it's
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so good. Does he stand by it? Or was it a prank?
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Because they were all he stands by some pranks, Like is he sure that's
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true? Like because they will pull some funny moves and they're so hilarious people
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that I have met, So are we sure? Is is this like the
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type of thing he seemed pretty convicted about. Okay, well, I'm gonna
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stand by it. I'm also gonna say, oh my god, that's so
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crazy that there's a ghost on the record. Did you hear that? Oh
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my god? Oh my god, Like I'll blow it up. It's fine,
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that's really fine, I'll go. I was just wondering. I'm just
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wondering because so so speaking of Andy and Plea for Pergan, obviously they're playing
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at Furnace Fest this year. I don't know how long you're planning on staying
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around for the festival. I don't know if you're just like coming in for
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the day that you're playing, or if you're gonna get out the whole weekend.
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But we're coming in all I'm coming Thursday. Oh nice, for Friday,
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and then my Christie Green shows up I think for Saturday, and then
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I think she goes home Sunday. So yeah, I'm there the whole time.
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I wanted to see there's a bunch of old dude, there's just a
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bunch of old bands I wanted to see. I'm excited to see Judge and
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today I want to see Girl Biscuits. I've seen Girl Biscuits for a couple
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of years. They played out here, and I was super excited to see
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Plea I was. I was like, so that's Joey Holts, like one
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of his favorites of all time as well, and so he was just like
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yeah, you know, he was so excited. And then I've asked Andy
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if he would sing on Holy Name stuff with me like a couple of times,
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and so he was always like, let me figure out if I could
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still do this kind of thing. So well, he was telling us he
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has never screamed in his life, other than a live show, rehearsal or
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recording, but like you know, if he was in his car or in
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a shower or something. He said, he's never screamed in his life,
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and so it'd be so interesting to like get him on a Holy Name song
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now given the fact that he like never screams anymore. Yeah, that's why
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I told Brooke doom Is. He's like a hero to me and kind of
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like our scene. Like his skill level and his care the way that he
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what he does with his voice is like unbelievable to me. And uh,
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he he just called me out. I think when I saw him at the
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live he was just like, dude, He's like, well, yeah,
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if you're never practicing, well you're gonna show up and blow your voice out
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in like three seconds. Like that's just of course it's gonna happen. And
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like he like has the whole He's just got a whole like system. So
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it's cool watching and be like such a pro because I I definitely am not
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trained. And when I was in Desk Star, I was just pumped to
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finally get a chance to not have to be a drummer. I was so
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excited to be a singer, and we had all these young kids in Redlands,
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and Eric was like, we have all these young kids coming up in
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our crew, and we just wanted them to have something to do. And
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so I moved to California to be in a band with Eric and with Eric's
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brother Ryan, who wrote, you know, they wrote everything for We Are
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the Threat and you know, like that's death Star, and so I moved
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out from Salt Lake to play drums with them, and we were going to
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start another band. And then we had all these young kids in the gang
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and we were just like, let's just have a bunch of singers and you
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know, Kevy can play bass, and like Ryan could play guitar, and
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like little Daniel could play drums. Like we'll just have a whole bunch of
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people. And Death Star took off before we could ever practice the like real
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band that we were going to be in. And so that was like kind
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of how it all came together, was it was like a place filler for
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just having fun and then the other things shot up. So anyways, I
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was so excited to be able to yell because I hadn't had really a chance
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to do that, but I really wanted to, like I wanted to be.
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Eric was in a band and Redlands called Casting Stone. They were they
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did a split with og Og Facedown Bands, Torn In Two and Point of
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Recognition and they were on splits with those guys and stuff. But they're just
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like a Redlands band. And they went through a couple of singers. Their
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first singer was like incredible Connor. He was awesome. And then I just
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wanted to sing a cast and s Owne. I like almost hoped I'd get
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the chance to sing in that band, and then that didn't happen, and
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when I moved out there, I was like looking forward for a chance to
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sing. So the first practice I remember like there's four of us that are
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supposed to sing, and I remember like trying to chop up the lyrical patterns
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to be like run DMC or like the BC Boys or something like. It
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was like, oh, we'll just do that, and I wrote, like
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I wrote like two songs in like ten minutes just for fun. I'm like
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the trash cans outside of the garage, and then came in so I was
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like I got it, and like we started going anyway. So I remember
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the first time I got a chance to yell and there was music in the
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garage. I wasn't embarrassed and I could just like and I was like,
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hey, it worked, Like I was so excited, you know, and
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so that was like my first for Rando yelling. But I've never I haven't
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done any of that, So I identify with what and he's saying where he's
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like the idea of yelling in my car is like, I have so much
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shame that I'm like, no, there's no like that's not oh God,
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like that's just I just my neck Like, oh no, man, like
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it's got to be loud in there. I don't know. I'm not that
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great at that, so God, Well, let's talk about just the whole
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story around Furnace Fast for you guys. Obviously, a number of months ago,
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now Holy Name was announced that you're gonna be playing Furnace Fast and we
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were just so so stoked when we saw that. Again just you know,
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you being a good friend and it's like, oh, finally we're gonna be
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able to hang out in person. Uh yeah, Just what's the story behind
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that? I mean, was it really just like they instagram messaged you and
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you're like all right, and then that was it? Or is there more
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of a story beyond that. No, I mean it's kind of like that
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blend. I think I can't remember what all we shared with you. When
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the first time he and Joe got to talk with you guys, you know,
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there wasn't like big plans at all. And then I think the last
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time we talked about it, we've been asked. We got asked a couple
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of people like, you know, are you gonna do you know all the
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stuff, are you gonna tour? Blah blah, And it's like no,
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like we're not in a position to do that. I think in a dream
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scenario it would be stuff like this, like getting a chance to go and
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do something special, like in a different part of the country. And that
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was it. So I know that Chad had hit me up on some other
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stuff the last couple of years, and I think he wanted SG to come
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back. He wanted to see if we could do stuff like that, and
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I was just like, No, did you ever ask about Death Star?
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No, he has not asked about that. He wouldn't ask me though,
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because that's like that's Eric's band, So like he would call like Eric,
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you want to do that, you know? And then Eric would be like
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Eric would probably because our friendship, he'd probably call me to be like,
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we got asked to do furnace fust what do you think? And I'd be
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like, Yeah, should totally do it. Will be a party, that's
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awesome. Like I'll just jump around on stage if you guys and swing my
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shirt over my head, like I don't care at all. Like let's just
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do spring break like super hard. That's how that would work. You know,
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what was the lack of SG interest for you? Is it just like
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is it all the logistics of like having to coordinate that altogether or is it
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more so like you really just like want SG to like not be a thing
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anymore? Uh, Like you don't want it to be kind of like a
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reunion type band. I don't know, like what what's the like, what
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what's the thought process going around SG? With that? I said, um,
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I've said this a few times to just friend like personal friends of mine,
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UM out here to be like totally honest, Like SG like was was
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really really powerful for me. And then the last probably five or six years
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of that band, it was like extraordinarily painful and there was a lot of
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like I felt like there was a lot of I had a lot of,
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like I think, personal pain and failure in my life connected to the band
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because we were really really like tight friends when we started and then members left,
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and like I just didn't I don't, like, I didn't like how
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it felt, but I knew that we were doing something. It meant a
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lot to me. I know that it meant something to people, and so
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I wanted to do right by that. But what I literally part of why
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I did, part of why I choreographed or curated the ending that we had
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was because I'm like, I don't when this is done, it's done,
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man, Like I'm not trying to do the oh yeah word and then we'll
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come back. You know. It really was a season in my life.
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And I think when I had to kind of like move when we put out
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the last couple of records and it wasn't the band really that we kind of
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started with, that was really really sad for me. And I was just
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trying to do right by what I felt like we've been kind of entrusted with,
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but I didn't. Yeah, it wasn't the same kind of joy,
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And so as it stands right now, it's like our old bass player Jr.
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Like he's he's fully a practicing like Harry Krishna devoting now like he's not
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even a believer. Wow. And while I love like what we did was
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very like theological or something like, it was very much like we have a
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message that's like what we're here for, and I don't feel like it would
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be very sincere. And maybe this is just where I'm at right now,
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but I would say it's almost like it's weird to me sometimes to have dudes
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that aren't straight edge or aren't vegan anymore come back and sing these songs and
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I get that they mean what they mean, but like, dude, but
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so that it's like I'm trying to I'm trying to defer, but the realities,
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it's like that was for a different time, and I don't know if
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I feel I don't know if I feel very connected to that. Also,
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I heard I don't like yelling, and so I don't want to come back
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and try to God, what if it's so bad, like oh my god,
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oh my god, Like I just anyways, I had to do some
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tours where we had fill in musicians because not everybody could go out, and
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I remember we did a full we did a full I think Screamed the Prayer
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style tour, and I had some of the homies from hundreds fill in and
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m dudes from Bullet for pretty Boy, and we just picked songs from like
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the first couple records. You know. It was like, Yo, what
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do you guys want to play? And our guitarist was like, first record
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is the hardest, and I was like sure, so we just like did
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we did songs from Dread Champions because it was just like it was like anyways,
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all that we said is there's a lot connected to what Sleeping Giant is
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and was, and I think I would like to let it be what it
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was, and I don't I don't know if I feel like I think I
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would have a hard time standing up there. And I guess if it served
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the kids, maybe that would be the only way. But for me personally,
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it feels a bit like I don't know if I want to do that
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again. So but that's why, that's why I spent the time and like
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we're gonna end it like this so that it can be beautiful. Because I've
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also been to some reunion shows where I'm just like that doesn't mean anything to
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me. Anymore. God, that used to really mean something, and I
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don't want that to happen either, because whatever was really cool and special about
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that, I want that to remain special too. So Yeah, I like,
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I like I said that there is some energy that's kind of stored up
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in the moment and in the time and there. It's not stuff you can
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just get back, right, Like, I'm a huge The Who fan,
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Right, Well, I wasn't alive to go see The Who in the seventies,
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but if you watch them now, like, it's cool, but it's
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not like anything that I'm like, oh my god, that made me a
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ten times bigger fan because of it, or that made that like resonated with
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my soul in a super profound way. Right, it's not going to do
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that because you're in a different spot and they're in a different spot. And
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uh yeah that that's a really interesting insight that you brought up there. I
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just it's a bit personal. But that's what i'd say, is like I
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changed my style personally, even with my voice and when the relationships weren't the
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same. Yeah, And the last two records are different than the first three
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because it was really a different group and it was a different time. So
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to try to go back and be like I don't know, yeah, I
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just I don't I don't care. Oh it makes sense. I feel bad.
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I'd be like he's like no, man, like you know, no
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man, it was that was for that time. That's it, you know,
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like it's cool I did that. I think that's keeping it real,
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you know, I hope. So also, let me ask you this question,
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who do you think is the first punk rock band? The very first
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punk rock band. I've actually had this conversation with myself a thousand times.
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Well, I'm interested to hear what you thought. I don't know. I
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mean, I don't think you can know. But I would say if I
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had to pick a band, I would say like pre fame Beatles, whoa,
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yeah, like those guys we're doing some pretty nasty stuff up on stage
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and and breaking all the rules. They lit us a theater on fire.
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They did like a whole bunch of like what you consider like generally like punk
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attitude type stuff. Now, maybe like their music isn't like even like those
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early days, wasn't necessarily like full on like punk music. But there was
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a couple of songs where they were definitely like playing with it. I would
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go with like maybe death, Like especially if you're thinking of like kind of
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classic punk punk rock sound, I would maybe I would maybe go with death.
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But but that's still like pretty proto punk. But yeah, that would
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be like maybe one of my first guests. But I want I don't want
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to make a definitive answer. No, it's tricky. I just I had
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a conversation years ago and we were talking about the Who and and that's why
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I was like, oh, that's interesting, Like I could see the Who
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for sure as well. The thing is though, that like the Beatles were
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doing that in Hamburg ten years before, So it's just it's wild. You
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know, they're they were lighting, they were like guitars on fire and stuff
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like that. And and uh there was one time that John like pissed on
23:36
the stage. I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's interesting.
23:41
Yeah, I mean there's a lot. I think there's a lot there.
23:44
We were we were like, man, I guess is it you know,
23:45
is it is it Cash? Is it Elvis Presley? Is it Jerry Lee
23:48
Lewis? Like because that's more of a mentality, you know, but just
23:52
the idea of like upbeat, you know, upbeat music like upbeat guitar rock
23:57
stuff, smashing. I'm like, yeah, the who, that's a pretty
24:00
good moment. It blew up a drum set, Like that's totally pretty big
24:04
sixties that's still so anyways, Yeah, that's cool man. I didn't realize
24:08
that they were like a favorite of your sets. That's awesome. Yeah,
24:11
dude, for sure, that's interesting. So obviously as she's out of the
24:15
question, but Chad hits you up and you're thinking, oh, yes,
24:18
yeah, holy name, like, let's let's make that happen. So is
24:22
that sort of like how that that all transpired? Yeah, well, we've
24:26
we've been offered to play a couple other things. And uh, also,
24:30
is that a Is that a cat? Or a? Is that a cat?
24:33
In a background? That is a that is a big cat. Yeah,
24:37
that's madam. She's she came here. She came here from Russia.
24:41
She looks Russian. She looks like she looks like she's picked some potatoes in
24:45
her life. She definitely she's she reads. She looks like a babushka.
24:52
She is a babushka, dude, for sure. She's the best. Yeah,
24:56
that's my cat. So she looks like a large rug that's moving around.
25:00
That's exactly that's a cat dog. There's a missed opportunity there, which
25:04
is what it should have been. Catherine the Great. It is Catherine,
25:10
dude the Great. All of our all of our pets are named after things
25:17
from the Harry Potter world because of my kids. So that's Demonica hear yeah,
25:22
and then we have so anyway, so sorry. It must have been
25:26
nice to grow up in a Christian world where you're allowed to watch and listen
25:29
to and read Harry Potter. Wow, what a what a bunch of libs
25:33
you guys are. Oh, I'm gonna keep going with you joke. No,
25:41
that's the cool part about being in compromised for so long. It's like
25:44
you could just make up all sorts of things that you want, you know
25:47
what I'm saying, Like, yeah, when you leave the like Christian metal
25:49
scene, I mean us going crazy was like Harry Potter one through seven.
25:53
You know, some people really hit the hashpipe, but for us, it
25:56
was like, but we're never going to touch poke, right, bro?
26:02
And I missed that whole window, dude, I missed it completely. It's
26:06
still open, man, it is, Yeah, you can bring it back.
26:11
No Pokemon we don't. We don't believe in that evolution. Shit,
26:17
yeah, I missed so much of that, Like any of that. I'm
26:18
like, Okay, I guess that's a thing. Sure, that's fine.
26:22
The patterns are anyways, so um yeah, anyways, we've been asked to
26:26
play some stuff and I had told everybody we had never played before, and
26:32
so um what I said. What I said was we're gonna do this live
26:37
stream performance and then at the end of that, I'll let you know if
26:41
we're gonna play. And it was very just important to me to like I
26:47
wanted to be able to curate the first show that we had. I felt
26:49
like what I wanted to do was different than I just we didn't. We
26:55
don't. We don't have the same flexibility to do it the same way.
26:57
And so I was like, yeah, we're gonna do this performance of going
27:00
to see if we really even enjoy what could happen, and then we'll kind
27:03
of go from there. And so when we did the live stream in Chicago,
27:07
that was like for me, that was we'd only played one other time
27:12
before that, so people flew out, we performed, we practice for a
27:18
weekend in Salt Lake, and then months later we see each other again in
27:22
Chicago. That was it. So, I mean it was like, dude,
27:25
we had all the opportunity in the whole world to completely fail and fall
27:29
flat on our face like heavy, but that was part of like, well,
27:32
let's do this in a quiet place where I know no one is and
27:34
that way all you let down a room full of people and like, oh
27:38
that Stu, it was tight to do that. When we got done with
27:41
that performance, that's when I said yes to Furnace Best. He hit me
27:48
back up and was like, what do you think? And I was like,
27:51
bro, we have some other stuff going on. I'll have to let
27:52
you know. And so at the end of that Chad hit me back and
27:56
was like, dude, we think and I was like, well, let
27:59
me talk to the guy. And so in a lot of ways, that
28:00
was like the first that was the first thing we've ever committed to play.
28:04
And so in many ways it'll be like our first live like performance with a
28:08
crowd, you know, like so and it would be your first since SG,
28:14
right, yeah, And so that's like coming on what like close to
28:18
ten years, not quite, but like no, we did it's five.
28:22
It's we did our final show in twenty eighteen February twenty eighteen. That's what
28:30
made the live stream so wild is we recorded that in January of twenty twenty
28:36
three, and then we had we had thirty days to put it out,
28:41
and all of a sudden, I'm like, well, let's just pick mid
28:42
February. And so five years to the date of the last Sleeping Giant show
28:48
was the live stream premiere in Chicago February seventeen, twenty twenty three. So
28:53
it's like been super weird because that was like not planned at all. That
28:56
was literally like we had to pay these people that filmed us, and we
29:00
were like, we need thirty days to pay you guys like, oh my
29:03
god, Oh my god, oh my god. So we just picked that
29:04
date and then we're like, let's go. And so February seventeen, twenty
29:08
eighteen was Sleeping Giants last show. February seventeen, twenty twenty three is Holy
29:14
Name's first performance, and so yeah, it'll be coming up on six years
29:18
that we've been in front of I've been in front of people, so that's
29:22
incredible. So can we expect a bunch of like water bottle baptisms at Furnace
29:27
Fest Oh no, I don't think so, I don't. I just wanted
29:30
to double check. I mean, yeah, maybe some, I mean yeah,
29:34
sure, dude. Everybody can do all sorts of things. I'm gonna
29:37
be my My normal mode at this stage in my life is like I'm gonna
29:42
just be standing there in front of the mic, trying to hold it together
29:45
and not losing it and trying to not sound bad, and then everyone can
29:51
just do all of the chaos that they want. They can just do that.
29:55
I'm just going to be standing in my spot and trying to like make
30:00
sure I do well. That's it, Which is funny because if you weren't
30:03
the performer and for holy name, like you would be the person that's going
30:08
like, you know, like going nuts, right yeah, like yeah,
30:12
So it's so funny to like the like your natural kind of like vibe at
30:18
a concert is to like be the person going nuts, except when you're the
30:22
person doing the performance. Well's singing Giant was like a runaround and yell you
30:26
know what I mean, right, that's a that's just past failed. You
30:29
either yelled the words or you did it. That's it. Like this is
30:33
different. This is like, oh my god, I could sing every word
30:36
wrong, like it could be the wrong note, like oh my god,
30:40
that's like that stresses me out anyway, So that's like a whole thing.
30:44
So yeah for me. Plus that's also the benefit of having such cool homies
30:48
that like can sing songs with me, beau, because then I can stand
30:52
there and just worry about what I'm doing and they can jump kick children and
30:56
like flip things and I'll just be standing there with my eyes closed like,
31:02
oh my god, my god, mcgonam god got So that'll be. That'll
31:03
be how that works for this. As if you've never performed in front of
31:07
a live crowd before, I love it. Never once. Yeah, speaking
31:11
of some of the other people that you bring into Holy Name's music, obviously
31:17
you have almost like every pretty much every song features somebody. Can we expect
31:22
anybody at Furnace Best that is you know one of those kind of big name
31:26
features that it's like, holy shit, this is great, or I mean
31:30
like Ryan Clark is in one of the songs, right, Yeah, like
31:33
Ryan Clark Training for Utopia is going to be around, Like can we maybe
31:37
expect Ryan Clark to make an appearance any any special appearances that you're you're willing
31:42
to let the people know already. I yeah, Ryan is going to be
31:47
there for sure, beautiful, So that'll be tight. So for everybody that
31:49
likes the song, Mi stecked, I need you guys to sing along with
31:52
him and Chrissy Green will be rocking out because the fact that he can yell
31:57
and sing like he does is legit like her favorite part and I hate that.
32:02
So that's cool, you know, it's fine. Yeah, So Ryan
32:07
Clark will be there. He's gonna be singing. I just saw him when
32:08
they came through on tour out here like a month ago, and that was
32:12
awesome. So yeah, Ryan will be there. I'm hoping that other homies
32:15
will be there and that will make it what we're gonna make it at cool
32:19
time, So that's what that's what I could say. I mean, so,
32:22
you know, God willing everyone will get there. So at this stage,
32:24
we're all flying from across the country, so it's like, right,
32:27
I hope, I hope we all get there, you know what I mean.
32:29
Like that's like, when's the when's the last time you've been in the
32:31
American South? Has it been since like when you were touring with SG,
32:37
Yeah, five years ago. We did a final show in Texas. That's
32:39
about as south as it got, right, So, what is what is
32:43
it that you're looking forward to the most? Because you probably, I mean
32:45
you, you certainly toured a number of times in the American South. What
32:50
is it that you're looking forward to going back to? Maybe maybe it's Bucky's
32:53
or maybe it's a waffle house or something, but yeah, what are you
32:55
looking forward to going back to that you that you would just have to experience
33:00
when you go to the American South? Human pleasures? Do you know what
33:05
sucks? Though? I'm gonna say it like this. I had a bunch
33:07
of Hormies in Birmingham and what we the last time we were in Alabama?
33:10
We played with Gideon in Tuscaloosa. Um, I would say, like ordinarily,
33:17
if it was like different parts, I would say cook out or but
33:22
it's yeah, Alabama. I don't know. I'm mostly just excited because Chrissy's
33:24
family's from there, so I feel like stoke that she gets to go back
33:29
to Alabama. But to be honest, like I'm a little bit intimidated.
33:34
I feel like it's gonna be a hundred bajillion killion degrees there and it hasn't
33:38
been bad last couple of years. Really. Yeah. Yeah, it's been
33:42
like probably maybe eighties at most. No, yeah, I mean it it
33:46
is like the later part of September, so it is like starting to cool
33:50
down. It's not like you know, the middle of July or a dude,
33:53
we played there in the Yeah anyways, So yeah, I think,
33:57
um, if I was in if we were in Louisiana, I would would
34:00
say ben Yets like that would be the thing. If I was in a
34:04
different part, I would say cook out. If I was in a different
34:06
spot, I'd say BUCkies. But what am I missing in Alabama? Maybe
34:09
some sort of barbecue. I don't know, barbecue would be tight. I
34:12
like, I mean, I'm down for all of it. Like I'm like,
34:15
yeah whatever that. I'm mostly for the hang you know. So if
34:19
people decided to go somewhere, I'd be like, tight, sounds great,
34:22
let's go. Are we all hanging out? Yes? Awesome? So maybe
34:24
some like biscuits and gravy or something along those lens. Always right, always
34:30
our buddy Justin Jones who plays for Idle Threat. He's a pretty well known
34:37
smoker of meats. Maybe I think he's gonna hang with us quite a bit.
34:40
Yea, So maybe we could, uh you know, have a little
34:44
get together at the Airbnb. Yeah, let's do that. There we go.
34:46
Oh tight, We're yes, we're staying like a couple of miles from
34:51
the slass furnaces, so we're we're gonna be pretty close by. Uh.
34:54
And so yeah, maybe we could do a little like kind of evening dinner
34:59
kind of thing before you know, the next round of shows that we want
35:01
to go to in that ye hold on, what are best practices for first?
35:07
Oh that's a great question. Do you go? Are you there the
35:10
whole day? What do you guys do? Man? That's true. We
35:13
have been there the entire day every town for the most part. Yeah.
35:15
Yeah, we might miss like the first show or two in the morning.
35:19
But yeah, when do you know when? Do you know when people play?
35:24
Uh? Usually it's in like a week or two before the festival starts,
35:29
right. I think that's when, like, you guys get you guys
35:30
will get scheduled. Do you know what day you guys are playing? Already?
35:35
We play on Saturday? Okay, So but you don't know the time
35:37
slot exactly, Okay, you just know on Saturday? Okay? Yeah,
35:42
Um, I think it's always been around, like maybe a few weeks before
35:45
the festival starts that the schedule actually goes out. Yeah, it's not like
35:50
it's not like Warped Her where you're not sure when you're in a play.
35:52
Yeah, so like the day of that's what I say. I was like,
35:54
oh man, that's gonna be early wild, Like I guess you've got
35:57
to be ready to rock. Oh yeah, Well, make sure you drink
36:00
plenty of water. I mean, especially if you're gonna be out there for
36:02
the most part. Uh, make sure you bring plenty of cash to uh,
36:07
because there's actually the food trucks there are pretty remarkably great, by the
36:10
way, and he's bringing his truck Bad Luck Burgers tight. Yeah so you
36:15
said he's drink some of it, so really, Oh I thought he would
36:20
just like totally let somebody else do all of that. But yeah, and
36:23
we can have one of Andy's burgers. But they're you know, there's lots
36:27
of really good food trucks, so make sure you bring plenty of money for
36:30
that. There's nothing like there's nothing else like really close by. So it's
36:32
not like other than the brewery across the road, it's not like you can
36:35
go get a bunch of grub elsewhere, so right, thankfully, Like the
36:38
food's pretty good. Um, yeah, what are some other great practices?
36:43
What what would uh ye have? Plenty of water? Um, I'm sure
36:47
sunscreen time your bathroom. Yeah, but they are very very clean. In
36:52
fact, almost too clean is what I argue, because like they have like
36:57
cleaners going through like every fifteen minutes, so like every time you want to
37:00
go to the bathroom, there's always a cleaner in there. So it's like,
37:02
I don't mind. I'm okay with that. Yeah, you know,
37:07
I think probably as a road dog as yourself, you're you're, you're like,
37:09
that's a luxury. I would have loved to have had festival day.
37:14
Hu gets some whole day. I mean, I have yet to poop at
37:20
Furnace Fest. I've been there twice, so I've been there for a total
37:22
of six days, and I have yet to poop at the festival. I've
37:24
pooped after leaving the festival and like you know, going to where wherever we're
37:29
staying. But I have yet to poop at the festival. That's the very
37:31
first thing I do when I get there. Oh you gotta you gotta Christen
37:36
those uh those Porter potties. That's right, Holy Name featuring Holy Shit.
37:40
Right there you go. You guys should do like a like a side project
37:47
called Holy Shit and just be like super goofy dumb songs. Oh poor Tommy,
38:04
I need you guys to yell that at me on stage, Oh Holy
38:08
Name more Holy Shit shit, and then you will be like hey, and
38:15
they won't realize that it's like an inside joke. Yes, you know.
38:20
We'll get as many guys as we can to throw some like baby ruths at
38:22
you. Under wrap the baby ruths. You should just like pretend that you
38:25
actually really hate us and you're really offended by it, and yo, get
38:30
weight. Yeah, I'll just be like put you know, point point point
38:35
out, point us out to the bodyguards or the security guards, and like
38:38
kick them out. Snitch you guys out to the crowd. Just right,
38:43
Tommy, can you promise us one thing? Though? Maybe I know you're
38:46
gonna stand there all stoic, you know, probably with some like Lane Staley
38:51
style sunglasses on, because your hair is kind of looking like that right now,
38:53
which is bro. Yeah, stand there with your like Lane Staley style
38:59
sunglas passes, but at the very end last song. We have to have
39:02
a stage dive from you, man, stage dive from me. Yeah,
39:07
you know, I can't make promises, but you're just gonna have to allow
39:12
me to be in the moment. Hardcore will never die. Mason and I
39:15
will catch you. We'll make Yeah, we'll make sure we We already told
39:17
Andy that we would catch him. And Andy is not a guy that you
39:22
typically want stage diving, but we're really committed to making sure that Andy gets
39:24
a stage dive in. We're so stoked to see Holy Name again. Like
39:32
you guys haven't played in front of humans yet, so we're just really excited
39:37
about that. And again, I just can't wait for a Tommy Green hug.
39:42
Yeah, it's gonna be a good time. It's good. It's a
39:45
great time. I've I've I've told other people this, but for Cullen and
39:50
I like as best friends, and we've been best friends for over fifteen years
39:53
now. Furnace Fest has been some of like the most meaningful times that we've
39:58
spent together. And it's just a really rad time seeing some of our favorite
40:01
bands being able to hang out with people who we've gotten to know over the
40:06
last number of years doing the podcast, and so it really is just such
40:09
a cool moment. It's one of those things where you know, like,
40:13
let's say, uh Culin's wife was due for you know, during the week
40:16
of furnace Fest. Well, she's gonna be delivering. That's that's how important
40:23
furnace Fest is. Hey, you know that's for sure. I mean,
40:30
you don't want to be there at the birth. They're not even to remember
40:32
you, right exactly exactly, they want to know that you were washing.
40:38
There was one guy where we were we were talking, uh Culin just had
40:43
had his baby, and like we said something about like, oh, we
40:45
would want to go, but we can't, like you know, there's uh
40:49
I got a baby on the way kind of thing. And this guy was
40:52
like, dude, I've known you longer than you've known your baby. That's
40:57
the perfect line. So yeah, all right, well, uh, what
41:07
do we want to do? Uh? What do we want to do most
41:10
hated? Or is there another? Uh most hated? At least we at
41:15
least need like a few artists that you really dislike. So, uh,
41:19
Tommy, let's go with your most hated artists. So these are artists that
41:22
maybe you like have personally had a bad experience with and you're just like,
41:27
I want to call those mother efforts out. Or maybe, uh, maybe
41:30
there's a song that you hear every goddamn time you're in the you're in the
41:36
bread aisle, and you're like, oh, not this song again, or
41:39
maybe there is uh, maybe there's other reasons why you dislike a band,
41:44
but uh yeah, the most dislike or most hated bands from Tommy Green,
41:49
let's hear a few of them. Do you need an example first? Yeah,
41:54
okay, So the other day I was, um, I was at
41:58
a bar, and it seems like this song follows me, like like like
42:04
I'm cursed with it every single time I go somewhere public. What's Up by
42:08
Foreign on Blonds, just over and over and over again. Not a bad
42:14
song by any means, but now I hate it because it's just it follows
42:17
me. Wow. Yeah, it's like it's like it's a curse. So
42:22
something along that line or another example. We've talked to a few people that
42:28
have expressed this hatred for this artist. But there's been a few people who
42:32
have been like, we really dislike Taylor Swift, not because they dislike her
42:37
music, but because whatever Taylor Swift does she basically stops the entire music industry
42:45
so that the music industry can like revolve around her for whatever it is that
42:47
she wants to do, whether it's like putting out an album, you know,
42:51
making vinyl, doing a tour or whatever, but like the whole music
42:54
industry stops because it's so revolved around her. So that was are a reasoning
43:00
for why they really disliked Taylor Swift. So again, there's a multitude of
43:04
reasons why you could dislike an artist, But are there any of those artists
43:07
that you're just like, they really grind my gears and we would love to
43:12
hear a contemporary of yours? A friend I don't that I don't like,
43:21
you know, And so I don't think I'm going to have a friend that
43:23
I'm like, I hate your I think even if I had a friend and
43:28
I wasn't one hundred percent on their band, there's no way I'd be like,
43:30
I hate your fan, I don't. That's not a thing. Maybe
43:36
maybe it's this guy named Brian head Welch, who back in nineteen ninety nine
43:40
basically started the Riots of Woodstock. Maybe maybe that's an artist that you really
43:46
dislike because of you know, multiple people died at Woodstock because I blame I
43:52
blame Fred Durst. I blame Fred Durst. No, I'm back Brian.
43:55
Brian can do whatever he wants. He's my homie, so yeah, I'm
43:58
fine with him. He's great, all right. You know there's one there's
44:02
a band I just don't like and have probably never liked ever. And but
44:07
they're not like a contemporary of mine. They're not even in the same like
44:10
their fleet, but it's a it's a band that is called The Offspring.
44:15
Oh my gosh, I totally totally makes sense. Yeah, I've never been
44:21
able to stand them, and I don't understand why people like them. I
44:25
really don't like the guy's voice. Well, I just I thought, like
44:30
I guess, it felt to me like Green Day was like a punk band
44:37
from the Bay, the East Bay. Rancid was like carryover from Operation IVY,
44:43
and they were like a punk band, punk Skaw kind of band,
44:46
and they were like punk rockers. And then but they played this like kind
44:52
of music that got picked up and they were like they were really popular.
44:58
The Offspring was this weird thing of like they were punk, but they like
45:02
weren't punk at all. To me, And then more recently, I feel
45:07
like they had a drummer and his name was Pete and he's incredible, and
45:10
he used to he drummed, He drummed in a vehicle, face to face,
45:14
and then he drummed in the Offspring, and like the Offspring dudes like
45:19
kicked him out of the band because he couldn't take the vaccine. He's like
45:24
immuno compromised thing, has like health issues and he couldn't do it and they
45:30
booted him, you know, And I think that's because they got paid to
45:35
be like pro vaccine music industry dudes and to kick your dude out anyways.
45:40
So I just don't like those dudes. I feel like, yeah, you're
45:43
not punk, you've never been punk. Your bands sucks. Pete's awesome.
45:47
Screw you guys, Like I just feel like you every time you have a
45:51
chance to be cooler, you you guys are just full on sellout nerds.
45:59
But I've always felt like that since I was like into punk rock, where
46:01
I was like, why do people like this band? Anyways? So I
46:05
felt like at least with Green Day, you didn't necessarily have to like their
46:07
music, but they didn't change their like style they always sounded like that.
46:10
Yeah, but the Offspring, I just felt like, this is not a
46:14
punk band and this is not like a rout. This is just whatever people
46:16
want, Like this is like lifestyle music. It's like corny is the perfect
46:22
word. Perfecting is that? I don't I don't know's I'm really saying that.
46:25
It's because of what they did to Pete so well, I don't really,
46:30
but they shouldn't have done that to Pete. So that's who's on my
46:31
list today. So I would imagine that maybe they're not. Maybe they're not
46:35
like sellouts to the pharmaceutical industry. But maybe the reason is because their lead
46:40
singer is like he like co authored papers and stuff like that, like scientific
46:45
journal papers. Sure, like the dude is like stupid smart apparently, which
46:51
is super weird because their music is far from it. I know he's I
46:54
mean I heard I read an article that he was the valedictorian of his class.
46:58
You know, yeah, like very very smart. He should write a
47:00
paper on being a better friend. Maybe, you know, could he be
47:05
the victorian? They're doing right? Do you think? I don't know.
47:08
Oh, and they ripped off the Beatles. They ripped off Oladi Oblada,
47:13
which is like the last song you should probably rip off because that's the most
47:15
polarizing beatle song there ever. Was. What I'm saying to you is I
47:21
like Pete and I don't know any of those nerds, but they did him
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dirty and so totally like this, I don't really care. I don't I
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don't listen to them, so I don't care, you know, But I'm
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just saying Pete's awesome. So that would That's actually like a similar category that
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we should ask Collen is like bands on paper that you would like, but
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for whatever reason, you just can't get into them. Dude, that's right,
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Like like the Offspring probably sound wise like makes sense like that, even
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though you're like they're not like exactly punk or whatever, but like on paper,
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like most people would probably assume that you at least like would decently like
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the Offspring, but for whatever reason, you just can't get in to him.
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And there's a lot of bands like that for me, where it's like
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everything on paper, I should like this band and I just like can't get
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into them. One band for that. One band like that for me is
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um and uh law dispute, Like I think law Dispute is basically like the
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high school cover band version of Me Without You and Everybody like Loves Law Dispute,
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and they're like kind of critically acclaimed, and I've never understood it.
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I just like I think they do Me Without You very poorly. Wow.
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Yeah, so I never I wasn't super into them, but some of my
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close friends really really right, like they're they're loved, and it doesn't I
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don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me. I heard that band
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through the ears of people that I loved, and they loved it, and
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so I never really got into them. But I remember thinking, oh,
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yeah, that's great, sounds cool. I didn't give him a second.
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I never listened. Yeah, I didn't have a bone to pick. So
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I get what you're saying, isn't it weird? How Yeah, we have
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all these opinions, Colin. Do you have a band like that that on
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paper you should like, but for whatever reason, you just like can't get
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into him? M Yeah, I just had him in my head though,
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Temmy, you've got to have bands like that too, right, like that
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for whatever reason, you just like you try it, like you've listened to
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all of their songs and you let you try to make it happen and you
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just like doesn't work. Are there any bands like that for you? There's
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so many that I can't say it. I feel conviction in my heart that
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I shouldn't say. I feel like me talking crap on the Offspring is like
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me shouting at the moon. But like, if I really had to have
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this conversation, I'd be being critical of like people that I actually know,
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and I don't want to do that. But there's so many. There's so
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many. There's so many, especially in either the hardcore metal scene or especially
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in the Christian metal scene. We have everything fundamentally in common. Why don't
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I enjoy this? Like get what you're saying. Yeah, I think for
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me it'd be like Greta van Fleet or um Megadeath like that. Yeah,
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yeah, dude, I get that. We played. We played a metal
50:13
fest and a metal fest and and it was the the Megadeath mastered on tour.
50:19
Right. Nasadon's actually another one of those bands too. It's like,
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I try, I know they're I know they're really good. Blown away.
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Yeah, I get what you're saying. I mean, I I don't have
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a favorite. Um, I don't have favorite Megadeath songs. Yeah, like
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they don't. They don't stick to me. Yeah, So I mean I
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get it where you're like, and this is a great band and they're beloved
50:43
world over, but I've never been able to access it. It's like,
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I totally get that. Fore, yeah, I'm on board of that.
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It's just really weird, like how music is like that, where there's just
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something about a band that sticks for you, and then you could have a
50:57
very similar sounding band and for what of a reason, it just doesn't work.
51:01
It's so weird how music works like that, And I kind of wonder
51:05
if a lot of it is just like the like emotional context in which you
51:09
were, you were a part of or whatever like that. There's just something
51:14
about like that emotional connection you typically have for a band, and like for
51:19
whatever reason, they're like melodies or whatever, just you know, they sing
51:22
to you more than like a band. It again, it's very similar,
51:25
but because like maybe emotionally you weren't invested or whatever, it just doesn't make
51:29
sense to you. So yeah, there's there's lots of bands like that for
51:32
me that just I don't get it, Like I think on paper, I
51:36
should like this band and I just can't get into them. That's interesting.
51:39
I think that's I think that's a really good one. I like that question,
51:43
like the math says this should be your favorite band, but for whatever
51:47
reason, you're like totally like yeah, that's a good one, man,
51:52
because I think there's a lot of that where you're like where it would surprise
51:54
you, you know, where it's like or the math says this should not
51:58
be your favorite band at all for whatever reason, you just like totally love
52:01
them. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's just as intriguing of a question.
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Did you have one in mine for that one? I don't know, you
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guys go first think I'm trying to think is there one for you? Colin
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that trying to think if there's one for me? Band I shouldn't love that?
52:16
I do probably like the National Nation. That actually was sort of like
52:21
coming up in my mind because they don't like a lot of the other bands
52:24
like them. Yeah, oh, I can think of one. Sufion Stevens.
52:28
I love Sufion and pretty much any other artist that sounds anything remotely like
52:32
Sufion, I'm like not all that interested in. There's like like Boni Veric,
52:37
like I enjoy some of his stuff, but Sufion, I love Sufion,
52:42
and I can't get into a lot of these someone Like if someone were
52:45
to throw on like Iron and Wine or Elliott Smith, you wouldn't be jamming
52:49
to it, Huh, not so much. I mean again, like,
52:51
there's a few songs from those artists that I enjoy, but as like an
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artist like their whole discography. I love Sufion, and so it would make
53:00
sense that I would love some of those other artists and love their entire discography.
53:05
But there's just like a few songs that I like from each one of
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those. Sure, Tommy, it's always a pleasure to hang out with you.
53:12
It's so much fun. We are seriously so stoked to see you guys
53:15
play and uh well, actually the thing is, though, because the schedule
53:20
hasn't been released yet, you better hope that you don't get scheduled during one
53:23
of my fuler bands. Yeah that's right. Who are your top five?
53:28
I don't even know, Like I have to look at them, Yeah,
53:30
i'd have to look at like you guys certainly won't be playing like with Turnstyle,
53:35
I'm guessing, but um, I don't even know. I'd have to
53:40
look again. But Saturday, you've got Thursday becoming the archetype extol gorilla biscuits
53:51
being sacrificed low training for utopia. Zel Zulus. We gotta see Zulu,
54:00
that's what that's like, one of the ones. Yeah, they're so good
54:04
right now. So anyway, uh, like, let's just hope you don't
54:08
get scheduled during Zulu or something. Let's just make that happen. I'm sure
54:14
you don't even want it. Obviously, you don't even want to get scheduled
54:16
during Zulu. So no, let's let's let's hope and pray. But Tommy,
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we're so excited to see you guys play. It's gonna be so much
54:24
fun. Uh and uh yeah, I can't wait to give you a hug.
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And uh we'll definitely get a bite to eat or whatever it is that
54:31
we can do. Well, we'll just hang awesome. Thank you, thank you,