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The Pain, The Grace, The Calling: Pastor Brian Carn Tells The Truth · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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  [SPEAKER_02]: Next, on the love of your worship.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: God decided to place His hand upon me at a young age.
• 0:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: Had no consideration for any failure of flong that I was going to experience in my life.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I had to go through it.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I think some people don't recognize that I did not have the privilege to be raised privately.
• 0:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: I had to be raised publicly.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So flaws and failures and mishaps that have happened in my life that others had an opportunity to go through privately.
• 0:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: I had to go through publicly.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: So because of that perspective, when you see in the comments or you hear people, like he's a false prophet now, because he's going through this, this, and this.
• 0:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you put yourself in the shoes of who you used to be and be able to kind of give an olive branch to those types of ready?
• 0:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: I've had to become the message.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I don't feel good, it doesn't always feel good, having to become what you preach because we're saying about grace it about much more.
• 1:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: So you have to teach grace.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: But that means there are things in your life that God's going to put on display.
• 1:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: You have to become your message.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: See, I'm the grace keyed.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So, I'm becoming that message.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm communicating and showing people.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get wash wrong in your life.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get what flaws in your life.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get how jacked up you.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get what failure would flaw with misapp.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Mistake is taking place in your life.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: God is faithful.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: And if you are resting, and is the love for you, nothing can kill you.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hey family, Willie Mojoon, you're here welcome, welcome, welcome to another Love You More Show.
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_09]: We are back in studio.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: Shout out to everybody who watched us when we were on location in the ATL, Major Love to all of our guests.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_09]: We had a really, really good time.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: Family have you ever find yourself in a place where you have certain habits that you just continuously do and you think to yourself, hey, that's just the way I am.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: The truth is, maybe that is just the way you are.
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_09]: But honestly, but maybe just maybe something in your bloodline that you may not necessarily know.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_09]: You know, being adopted and finally meeting my biological family back in 2020, I actually meant my biological father.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And for the first time, I got an opportunity to see some of the things that I do, and if I wasn't careful.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_09]: I could walk down that street, not that it was a bad street, but it just wasn't for my purpose.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: So there was some things that I had to change.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: You know, Pride is gonna make any excuse.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: If you milled these gonna make the adjustment, so humbly I made some adjustments, it hopes that my children can do better than I did.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: All right, family today I get the opportunity to hang out with a man who actually changed my life personally.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: It was 2008.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I was in St. Louis, Missouri with this amazing movement called Young Flying Save when I went to an encounter.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I seen this young pastor who talked like he was about 58 years old.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: Couldn't be no more than about 19 years old.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And I was thinking to myself, he's got to be pretended until he called my name.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: And he said, come up here.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: And he's spoken to my ear.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_09]: He said, listen.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: you're supposed to be in Atlanta.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_09]: And when you get there, everything is going to open up to you.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_09]: I said, Atlanta, you see if I tell you a duck can pull the truck, who'll get up?
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_09]: I made it to Atlanta in the rest of his history.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_09]: Today I get the opportunity to hang out with the man, the myth, the legend, Pastor Brian Cohen, what's going on, champion?
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm safe.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I know you saved.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: So this is how you act on the phone, to how you doing, man of God.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Will I, I'm safe?
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_09]: You better know more grief.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Don't tell you, answer the phone.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: That's what I'm saying.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm saying more great.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: More great, though, that's right.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: How you feeling, yeah?
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm amazing, absolutely amazing.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: Man, I'm so glad that you would take the time to come on down to Atlanta.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I know that Kingdom City is gonna be extremely proud to see you on the show.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: They love you there.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: They love their past.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_09]: It did.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Well, you know I like to start off with an icebreaker.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Traditionally, I like to do music.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I would play one of my songs and we would go into a conversation, but I could not play any of my songs after doing extra research on Brian Cole.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I want to look at some of the funniest moments that's on the internet right now.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: You keep me tickle.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: Check this out.
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  [SPEAKER_07]: I know it's gon' be all right Same name up Perhaps don't turn this thing around Same name up Whatever it takes Take it to your next place Perhaps don't want to feel Get to that next dimension Go back and get out of here But tell your name up Same name Same name
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  [SPEAKER_12]: When I am trying me to stop, all all don't stop.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Amen, stretch your hands forward to walk the ground.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: When I'm doing, I'm praying for, stretch your hands forward.
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  [SPEAKER_14]: Can you play strength softly, please?
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  [SPEAKER_14]: I'll be seated around the mercy of God.
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  [SPEAKER_12]: Hey man, that's a child practice.
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_12]: I came up with that's what practice did for y'all y'all don't ever need to practice again if that's what it did for y'all You're missing you can stay Child practice in first time to like that Brian Korn, ladies and gentlemen
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  [SPEAKER_09]: When you see this stuff, do you have a look back in and feel and you're sure I'm not like, I shouldn't have said that or that's just for you.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I just be funny, be funny, be funny, be funny.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So in the moment, it's just like, that's what that's what naturally comes up.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, after tell people, people have to know they sound bad because if they don't, they keep sounding bad.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So I was sitting there and I was watching this and I was like, what in the heck did this come from?
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I got an opportunity to sit with you and your father on the interview.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: Now Brian Corn sent you.
• 6:47
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, he is the local superstar in Jacksonville.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Because he, you, you, you the second.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's right.
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_09]: And you told him that, yeah, you made it locally.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I made it in the nation.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Come on.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And so let's talk a little bit about background, okay?
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Because a lot of times when we see people in church, we don't realize that, you know, everybody wasn't in church.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So when I explored who your dad was, I realized that he was a guy who had a really great story.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: He went to the Navy.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: He married your mom.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And then he got into some substances that didn't... Six drugs in rock and roll.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: That would he say six drugs in rock and roll?
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So you didn't grow up with him.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Great.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And this is what, this is the part that I really want you to expound on.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: You asked him, you said, like, you know, did you regret?
• 7:34
  [SPEAKER_09]: Now raising me and he said, no, because I might have gotten away for a guy I was doing.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: And you turned out pretty good.
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: And so growing up, how was that for you knowing that your father was outside of what the house would be considering that he picked up some different.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think my mother did an excellent job of shielding me from that, because I didn't know my dad was on drugs, so I got older.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: So my whole teenage life, I guess it was pretty normal for me.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: It was just me and my mom and we went to church.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I remember dad around sometimes, but...
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  [SPEAKER_11]: My little was on, she did a great job of shit and whatever habit stronghold, whatever things he dealt with in his life, because I didn't think I was on drugs until I was older.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So when you look at his life and your mom's shield and as you get older now, do you look at that conversation that you all didn't get the opportunity to have as a child as a bad thing?
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Or do you take it like he said?
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, it was a good thing that he was out of.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: How did my life?
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I am grateful.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: looking forward, you don't always understand things, but always looking backward, you understand that all things work together for the good.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So my father probably, when I was of age and probably going through purity and young, and I would have said, I don't want to go to church.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: My probably had he been home, he probably would have said, that boy ain't got to go to church, you know, make that boy, you know, but with my mother,
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  [SPEAKER_11]: church was not an option.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: You had to be in church and everything that I have today is because of the foundation of church and holiness and all of those things in me.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So it worked out for the good.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I guess I think I turned that pretty well.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Your father said that your mama used to listen to what he told her to do.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: He was a good woman.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: She did exactly what I told her to do.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: He said if he told her to come on with Easter.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Come on.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: If you're tomorrow with Easter.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: She called her eggs.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, she will.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: That's what he said.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: That's what he said.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: That's what he said.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: She got said.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: That's what he said.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And then he said that the church that she went to, y'all was the only one that was saying, in that whole community there.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: And he was like, anybody, everybody should went to that church.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's right, that's right.
• 9:49
  [SPEAKER_09]: So what is what to me was that there may be a level of judgment or a certain standard.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And he thought that he couldn't live up to.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: Now I hear you preaching the message of grace.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: But even in your earlier stages of ministry,
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like it was, don't do this, can you tell the book, but you can be back by a whole chasing free basin, whiskey, nipping cocaine, sniffing, peel, popping, weed, chopping tobacco, chewing, cigarette, sucking, pipe of a skirt, chasing midnight rambling, be go gambling, can't do none of that.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So what does Gray say now?
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Wow.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: It's just a whole different outlook.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I still believe in those things.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I think I just deal with more of the group than I do the fruit.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: And of course, the church I was raising was very strict.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, very, very strict.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I had two very strict bad.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I had a pass that didn't even let us work alone.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: He told us that alone was less than a bottle.
• 10:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: His name was Darrym McCoy.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I... Come on, put this down in my bedroom.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, it was very straight, Sabbath keeping church.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: We'll run McCoy as a Sabbath keeping church.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: head cover in the sanctification, which is good, clean eating, we didn't eat pork, we didn't eat crabs, we didn't eat shrimp, that was one regard, then I had a woman pastor who was very, very strict.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_11]: She's went on passage in that sea homes, there in Jacksonville, Florida.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: And just very strict, you know,
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  [SPEAKER_11]: You just, one thing for sure, you will save.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, you had to come out of your sin and come out of your mess and all that.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: But just to be transparent, I love the Lord, whatever fire but my being, I mean, I had an encounter with God when I was a young child.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I fell in love with Jesus.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: And...
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  [SPEAKER_11]: But over the years, I began to come into a revelation of not my love for him, but his love for me.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: And I think sometimes in the holiness church, we more focus on our love for him, and not how much he loves us.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: God, Adam and the garden broke his heart, but even with a broken heart,
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: He closed him and put skins on him.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So God never allowed anything to cause anything to separate him from his creation.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: And as a result of the grace message, it has changed my whole perspective of the love of God that His love is not conditional, it's unconditional.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: His mercy doesn't run out, His grace, you know, is sufficient.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: Merces are new every morning, so I'm just coming to a deeper revelation of.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: who God is my opinion of God has changed.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: That makes sense.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hangin' out with Brian Korn makes sure that you subscribe to this channel.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: So when you look at the maturation of who you are, and I've often seen when people come into the kingdom of God, specifically when I came into the kingdom God.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: I had a shirt on, a ball cap, big change, and I was fresh out of the world.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: And it's almost like people have pulled up the route before they get an opportunity to see the fruit.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So do you think those people who was, they weren't extended the grace that we see now?
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  [SPEAKER_09]: And now they're kind of out in the street doing whatever they're gonna do, they got so much church hurt because it was nothing that they can do.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Like what type of apology do the church at large?
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Half of those people since pastors are now coming into this divine revelation of grace.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I think most definitely we owe people and apology if that's best to work we wanna use.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I think that one thing we don't recognize
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't believe, I think it's very rarely that people hurt people on purpose.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I think most time it's collateral.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So because it's collateral, even if the church hurt you or your mother hurt you or the pastor hurt you, as a result of what they taunt or what they believe, in their heart of hearts, they're communicating to you what they believe is the truth.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: But because they were taught wrong of their understanding is wrong.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: You end up being the collateral damage of whatever era they were taught.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: People don't know who on a journey.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: Salvation is a journey.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: It's a marathon.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: It's not a sprint.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: And as a result of that, I like it.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Young people who went to church with me coming up.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I like it most of them that not in church.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: They ain't got nothing in the belly.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, they're not in church, they're not saying, you know, they just out there.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think they're out there, not because they don't love God.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think that the standard was set so high, that in their mind, if I'm not perfect, if I'm not doing it right, I'm not gonna play with God.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just gonna stay away from church until I'm ready to get right.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: And what the grace message taught me is that
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's not in man, Jeremiah 10, to direct his own steps.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't have the capacity to change.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: And righteousness and holiness and sanctification can never be legislated.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: The law couldn't do it.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: But you have for a lot of the Holy Ghost to come in and bring the changing in your life.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: And so that's what it did for me.
• 15:06
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• 15:14
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• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: Leave a comment and say I did it and I'll see you and I might see you a message back now back to the show flat out and then I had the opportunity to come to Kingdom City I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina and can I tell you man, I had probably one of the best times I've ever had in my life Louis viral that night because you went up there and sung them songs
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_09]: We just had a really good time.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: We had a really good party and it was so many men and women who just supported your ministry as a pastor with the gift of prophecy.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_09]: How easy are hard is it for you to shepherd people when they're so in love with the gift, but sometimes overlooked the man.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, as a pastor, when I first started, I would flow prophetically over the years, I stopped prophesying as much because I recognized that it's hard to grow an effective church with a gift of prophecy.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: So I took time to study in the Word and really walk them through the Word of God.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: So now, they're finally getting an opportunity to vote.
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  [SPEAKER_11]: Those who are members of KCC now are not members because of the prophet.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: They might have started, but if they've been with me for this, love the time, it has to be because of the pastorate because I spent years of not really flown and prophesied.
• 16:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: I would give it a lot of national prophecies, but not much personal prophecy, because I wanted them to fall in love with the word of God.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: And so as a result of that on, the people who are that they, they pretty much love the word and they've grown to love the word and they could people, they love me and I love them.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah, they good people.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_09]: So when I was there last time, I talked to you, I was like, man, what type of woman were Brian Corn Day?
• 17:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: And you was like, well, how did Lou, yeah, and we kind of got out of there.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: And nowadays,
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_09]: Here's the thing, and I want to be very honest with you.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_09]: I am so unconnected to culture.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm connected to kingdom.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: So I think God blesses me to have what I'm going to call it.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm kind of dumb to whatever happens on the outside.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: I have a photojie over and I'm running around.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm doing what I'm supposed to do as a man.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: Everybody got their issues.
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  [SPEAKER_09]: I try to put my blinders on and stay focused.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_09]: But I did hear like, are you actually married at this time?
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_09]: Or are you not married at this time?
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I'm not married.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_11]: No, I'm not married.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, do you know if I was married, that'd be all over the world?
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that you would not be able to be unconnected from that.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: No, I'm not married.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: No, I'm not married no kids.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: No, I'm not married no kids.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: So a lot of the stuff that you just Google and see on the internet is Brian Cohen.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_09]: He's not married.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_09]: He has a girlfriend.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: He's doing this, this, and this, like when it comes to relationship, and it has to be such a natural platform, a national platform, how do you keep something sacred when it's so public?
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's kind of impossible.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: Hmm.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, you just don't, you just... You gave up the opportunity.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: People don't allow you to be, um...
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know, I answer that question.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: Actually, that question again, so my brain can get you.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: more than anything, so let's answer it this way.
• 18:28
  [SPEAKER_09]: Let's exit this way and you can cut your coin here.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_09]: But how do you store the relationship correctly when there's so much public scrutiny that comes with the person that you'll be with?
• 18:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: Is she holy enough where she looked like?
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_09]: She don't dress like us.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: She doesn't do that.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_09]: Like how do you cover a woman when she doesn't live up to the standard of people's example in there here?
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, so for me,
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: It doesn't matter, I have a very strong personality as you see from my father.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: We say what we mean when we say, I do believe it's the responsibility of the man to present his wife in whatever capacity he chooses to do that.
• 19:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: She will always have a target on her back who ever she is.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_11]: She doesn't double always be a target on her back in some kind of capacity.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: I really don't care about what church folk think or what they believe as it pertains to that because the marriage space or the relationship space is not for the people.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's for me as an individual.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: She would not be marrying the prophet.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: She would not be manned the bishop.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: She won't be manned the past.
• 19:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: This should be manned the man.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: And so as long as the man is pleased, I'm not concerned about what?
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: those are the titles, I guess, in that capacity, who should be with his demand?
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, I don't think of a matter.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like I really wouldn't care.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't care.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: So, are you close to that step yet or are you just like, hey man, I don't.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just waiting on the Lord.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, you still waiting on the Lord?
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm waiting on the Lord.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just waiting on the Lord.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_09]: You know, you know, I was down somebody.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_09]: I told you at the table, I was like, hey, man, I'm dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_09]: I was like, oh, no, I wasn't, no, but they jumped like that.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, man, I was telling you that in confidence.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: No, that didn't work.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: I know that, yeah, yeah, that didn't work, you know.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_09]: If a duck full of drugs, that's right.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hook it up.
• 20:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: You talked about the preacher, the bishop, and you also talked about the man.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_09]: What's the difference between us two?
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: So all of those are different, obviously, as I guess.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: So the prophet is very direct, very forward.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: Sometimes seen as emotionless, there's a woman, wrote a book called, preparing to be a helpmate or create to be a helpmate.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's by Debbie Pearl, that's her name.
• 20:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: She deals with whether you are married to a priest man,
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: a prophet man or king man and all of the things that encompass that, I'm very old school when it comes to the dynamic of marriage.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: I am entire the world with all of this, I am.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, I had women, they're Thomas Ungar, I got a man, I did me just for me.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, that's a lie.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: Cause the Bible said the man was not made for the woman, but the woman is made for the man.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: So it is my desire when I communicate to the women that I pastor to understand that God has made you for a man, whoever that man is, God has made you for him.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: based on who that man is, whether he's a prophet, man, a king, man, or a priest, man, which are all different rows.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: You are to just adjust accordingly to the man that you have.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: The prophet in me is very direct, very forward.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: Spontaneous prophets by nature are people who are one track, narrow minded, whatever they're focused on at that moment becomes their focus and a woman who needs an enormous amount of attention probably couldn't be with a prophet man, she'll probably be over their loss feeling.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like she has no value because that profit whatever he's focused on is what he's focused on at that moment She probably need to have her something to do so that she won't become so in a compost with him That she ends up miserable and unhappy.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: So that's the profit man.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: So that's one part of me The pastor is a little more merciful and compassionate and have time for people and they're patient within the visuals That's the pastor in me.
• 22:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: So
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: The person going off in the poop, it is the prophet, you know, the person who sits there and wait because you know, someone's having a challenge is the pastor.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: And the me is an individual, the prophet in me probably because, you know, I've been a prophet longer than I've been a person.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_05]: Explaining.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, let me say this.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: God started using me in the prophetic one.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: I was seven eight years old.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I immediately began to grasp that part of me.
• 23:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, from eight to whatever age I'm in now, that's the prophet, which means my person as an individual was on the eight years old.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I took more
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: energy into the prophetic, so I'm an introvert, I state of myself, I don't like to be bothered, I'm home every day, I don't go out, that's the, I like, I don't spend no time, I don't go nowhere, if I go on a vacation, I'm in the bed, you know, I love the bed, I think it's the best invention God made.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I love the bed, I rest, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's pretty much me.
• 24:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't do much hanging out going out, doing nothing.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: But that's the prophet in me.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: I had a pastor who kind of taught me that if you're going to be a prophet, you got to stay to yourself.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: You can't hang with people.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: So that was a challenge when I became a pastor because you have to be around people.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: And even that has been a challenge in the sense of
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: Father's been thyme with their children, but I didn't have a daddy.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: So because I didn't have a father, I don't even completely understand the dynamic of hanging with people because I have no problem being by myself.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: So it's a challenge.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's a challenge.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_09]: How difficult was it for you to bring your father into your beautiful home?
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: Let them just go in your closet and get whatever he wants.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_09]: He chose the most expensive stuff he could find, because he just like you're dead.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_09]: You got to have a good stuff.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_09]: How much humility did they take as a man of God, a prophet to sit down with him and hear the true conversation and why he wasn't there?
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, to be honest with you again, my mother didn't excellent job of shielding whatever he did wrong.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: I never had any malice unforgiveness.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: Nothing in my heart towards my father.
• 25:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know how my mother, I don't know if that came for me.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: My time with the Lord, I wear my mother raised me, but I never had any malice in my heart towards my father in any kind of capacity.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_17]: So, yeah.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: It was no challenge at all.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: My dad came in and people probably felt like I was closer to my father than I was to my mother who raised me.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: Because he just came in and just hit the ground roll and then I did what he did.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, and my dad has this mindset of, um,
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, he don't live in nothing.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: He don't want to win nothing when his over is over.
• 26:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: It happened, you know.
• 26:13
  [SPEAKER_11]: He don't let you hold nothing against him.
• 26:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: He just moved on from it.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: So he's very open about what he's done.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: He don't hide it.
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's like, yeah, I did it and moved on from it.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: And, you know, so it wasn't really.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_09]: So I want you all to get the opportunity to see the man that we speak of, Brian Korn and Senior.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: Check this out.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: You played a pop-screen, pop-screen, pop-screen.
• 26:47
  [SPEAKER_10]: Take the church.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, you went through high school.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_13]: Right.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_10]: Then you went to Navy.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_13]: I went to first, I went to Florida, and him.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_13]: Florida, and him.
• 26:55
  [SPEAKER_13]: You did?
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_13]: But I was running behind your mom so bad.
• 27:05
  [SPEAKER_10]: I couldn't stay up there, I couldn't stay up there, you couldn't stay up there, you couldn't stay up there, you couldn't stay up there, you couldn't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there, you can't stay up there
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: Shout out to Brian Korn, Senior.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_09]: Sounds like my daddy wouldn't talk.
• 27:39
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, Liz, not a bit around the world.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: Once broke the air by the twice.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: So when you see that character, and you see the things that your father had to overcome, how does a man who wasn't necessarily raised by a father?
• 27:53
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you have a desire to have children one day?
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, of course, of course have children in red.
• 27:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: I am very, um,
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, one day, you know, whenever the Lord wants them, I'll be chilling, brother, will it?
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'll be chilling, I don't know, I just trust God with my life, I don't take no thought for my life.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I trust God that my steps are ordered of Him.
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: But of course, I desire to have impact.
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: Sometimes the church space gives you such an opportunity,
• 28:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: to raise people that you forget that one day you gonna have to raise somebody.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: Because as a pastor, you raise and grown folk.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, Joshua, Joshua gets to the promised land and is told to circumcise older men.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: And the question is, why do old men need to be circumcised because they should have been circumcised when they were children?
• 28:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: But their parents died in the wilderness.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: So because their parents died in the wilderness, he ends up having the circumcised older people.
• 29:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: And as a pastor, you end up having to deal with things that their parents did not deal with.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I'm faced with that as a pastor.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I love people.
• 29:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: I love people, help them get the way they need to get it.
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: A lot of people are challenged and going through a lot of things.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: And there's been a lot of trauma in people's life that have never been dealt with.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I'm kind of that person who come to you and tell you, you have a problem.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: Something is wrong with you.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: And we need to get to the root of this.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: So you don't end up perpetuating this for the rest of your life.
• 29:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you know, when I look, because I consider you a brother and a friend, like I don't get an opportunity to see all the ups and downs and heaps and flows, of course, from a distance.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_09]: I pray, but when you wake up in the morning and maybe you see something that somebody said negatively.
• 29:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_09]: How do you keep up a level here without
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_09]: wanting to attack.
• 30:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: I know your daddy now.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: So I know it's in you.
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_09]: So when you have different, uh, I, I seen one with a woman, uh, woman pastor who I think is amazing shout out to, to, to if I love her to life, I seen something there.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_09]: And then, you know, you wake up one day and some woman accuses you of, hey, I was talking to him and he did that like, how do you keep a level head when people were putting holes in in your armor?
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 30:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: Because that is embarrassing.
• 30:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's a little difficult.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 30:26
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you start to shield yourself away from people?
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_09]: Because you said that your mentor and the pride as a prophet was like, you got to beat to yourself.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 30:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: It's almost if you can't have humanity, if you appreciate it, if you're in Christianity.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_09]: How does Brian a corn handled that public scrutiny?
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's a great question.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: Again, I fell in love with Jesus.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I go to the secret place, and I spend time with him.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: It has its challenges, but for me, it's the cost of being public.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: People are gonna talk, people have their opinions.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: By nature, I'm a person who likes to reach out to the individual who says something about me.
• 31:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like, I'll call somebody who says something about me.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: Who nobody would even know that they said something.
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I say, why are you doing that?
• 31:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: Why are you saying that about me?
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's my nature, but also have to know that sometime is rooted in the need to fair about it to like you.
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, rooted in the need to fair about it to have great things to say about you.
• 31:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: That can come from a lack of affirmation in one place.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: You need to be validated.
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: So you need everybody's approval.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: When you know who you are, and you know what God is calling you to do, and you're sure about what God is calling you to do.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: It really does.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: It didn't matter, you just move past that stuff.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I learned at a young age, I think I heard Bishop Jake say one time that dogs bark at the moon all the time.
• 32:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: And there's never a press release on dogs barking at the moon, because that's what dogs do.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: But if that moon have a barks back at that dog,
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: there'll be a press conference.
• 32:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I understand I'm the moon, they're the dog, and I don't bark.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: And let people say what they're going to say, and you love a pey, I'm sorry, I got happy.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_10]: You let pey, I'm sorry, you let pey, I'm sorry.
• 32:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: You let pey, I'm sorry, you let pey, I'm sorry.
• 32:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I feel the more it's too bad time.
• 32:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: But it's scary, guys.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: So yeah, you let people say what they're going to say.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I'm
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: You just love the Lord, and if you know God's for you, say I know that, I am very sure that God is for me.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: And since God is for me, I have no concern.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: Thanks be to God who always calls us to triumph.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's my scripture.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: I believe that.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: David said, this is how I know that God is for me, because he did not allow my enemies.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: to try unfold for me.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, I take responsibility, and my journey, walking with God.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think some people don't recognize that I did not have the privilege to be raised privately.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: I had to be raised publicly.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: So flaws and failures and mishaps that have happened in my life that others had an opportunity to go through privately.
• 33:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: I had to go through publicly.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: I didn't go through puberty privately.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, public, are you a private person?
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: I went through puberty, publicly.
• 33:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: I didn't go through interrelationship in a flaw.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: Any change in my character, things that get to go through, I didn't get to go through those things, privately.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: God decided to place his hand upon me at a young age.
• 34:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: Had no consideration for...
• 34:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: any failure of flong that I was going to experience in my life.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: I had to go through it.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: And but he's been faithful.
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I don't like it.
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: It doesn't feel good.
• 34:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I know that God is with me.
• 34:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: And because of that, I can handle anything.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_09]: So what are your thoughts when you have such a strong message earlier in ministry and now when you go through so much, a lot of people say, hey, you know, when these pastors, they go through so much, now they want to talk about the grace, where has the grace when they were spitting in my face, where was the grace when you were doing this, this and this, that's right.
• 34:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: How do we build the bridge because here's the thing.
• 34:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: I do quote-unquote street ministry.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm in the neighborhood Jails adoption, etc.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: etc.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: And my biggest thing is when you have these pastors who are so much on the law and I'm going in with people who ain't never really stepped foot in the church
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_09]: And you give them this message of grace and God loves you and he does have a standard He loves you because not because you so good but because he's so good And get everybody fired up to go seek Jesus Christ right and then here comes a group of people that say well You know you can't wear your pants like that and you know to just this and us and I think the grooming becomes You know it comes too early before the seed is really taking root
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_09]: So, not necessarily, you specifically, but what do we say to that audience at large, to be like, man, I mess with you, Willie, because you keep in one hundred.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_09]: I mess with this particular ministry, because they keep it above.
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_09]: But man, all that church stuff, I can't really rock with, because they are changed.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_09]: They message in an instant.
• 35:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
• 35:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: I, um, somebody sent me a message one time in my inbox.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: This been years ago.
• 35:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: They sent one clip of me saying, money, come in.
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: To me, now, I got that from Pastor Leeward Thompson in Darrell, Louisiana.
• 35:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's the money coming, man.
• 35:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: I tell everybody, y'all sent him some money because you're gonna get your piss, gonna come back to you, good measure.
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, that's his an honor.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, they sent me that clip, and then they sent me another clip.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: of me preaching against money coming.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I was on the other clip saying, these preachers, I hear time about money coming to me.
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: Ain't no money coming to me, holding this coming to me.
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: Righteousness coming to me, right?
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_11]: And they sent me the two clips next to each other and put like, explain, and my answer to them was growth.
• 36:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: That was my own explanation.
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: Life changes you, and things that you think you know, you don't know, my former past used to tell me, what you preach 10 years from now, you're not gonna preach it in another 10 years.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: What you preach in now and 10 years you're not gonna preach it.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: You keep your foundation, but life brings about change.
• 37:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: I still believe wholeheartedly in sanctification and living a consecrated life and coming out from among them being separated.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: I still so strongly believe in those things.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: I just don't believe I have the capacity to do it.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: I began to pastor, and I was pastoring people who I believe honestly love the Lord, but had yokes in their life that they could not seem to get free from.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: They love the Lord.
• 37:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: I was preaching, come out your sin, come out your mess.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: But they, honestly, were not being free.
• 37:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: And it caused me to sit with the Lord and find out what's going on here.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: And one person who really impacted me and the Lord knew that I needed to hear it from this person because of the strong root of legalism and law and bondage that I had in me was a gentleman named Andrew Womick.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: not very exciting, you know, I come at the pinnacle of the church.
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, so he, you know, when none of that, he was eight, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, as I talk, but solid in the word, I'm a word person.
• 38:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: I love the word.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: And first Corinthians 15, Vity Six, did it for me.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: The sting of death is sin.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: But the strength of sin is the law that illuminated something for me.
• 38:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: I would have thought the strength of sin was the devil.
• 38:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: The strength of sin was being ungodly.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: But the strength of sin.
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: is the law.
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: So it caused me understand that the more you tell people not to do something, the more you wake up in them to do it.
• 39:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: And when that came a lie for me, I recognize, that's why these folks can't get free.
• 39:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: Because I keep beating them down, telling them what not to do.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: I keep telling them what they're not, instead of telling them who they are.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: and it just changed the message and even in my life personally, um, it just changed my life.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I found myself living better by accident than I ever did on purpose because I love him.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: but not because I love him, but because of how much he loves me.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: And my response to his love for me, it's just be better and better every day.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_09]: So that's what happened.
• 39:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: So if you heard this same message 10 years ago from a young, charismatic, maybe had T-shirts on with it, he was talking about that.
• 39:58
  [SPEAKER_09]: How would you challenge that message?
• 40:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I'll give them scriptures.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: I give them scriptures.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: Probably not a context, but I would give them scriptures that I know.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: This is what I used to teach.
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: I used to teach that you don't have the work to be saved, but you gotta work to stay saved.
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I used to put justification on God, but sanctification on us, not realizing.
• 40:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: They hate to have big, gone, a good work in you.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: Philippians 1, 6.
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's gonna finish it, not realizing he was 12.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's not just the author of my faith, but he's the finisher of my faith.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: So he is in the whole process.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: It don't just start with him.
• 40:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's going in with him.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: I can't change me.
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's gonna do the whole sanctification process.
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's gonna justify me.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's gonna glorify me.
• 40:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's all him.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: And so when I accepted that, I rest in the finished work.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: God made man on the sixth day, and on the seventh day he rested, which means that man's first day was a day of rest.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: And guess what we're supposed to do in our Christian walk, rest, but we so be the working that we can't rest.
• 41:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I had to learn that I don't
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: I would have challenged, man, I would be, I would be preaching down with all kind of scriptures and told them, you know, but thank God for growth.
• 41:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's what it was, growth did it.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: So because of that perspective, when you see in the comments or you hear people like, he's a false prophet now because he's going through this business and this, do you put yourself in the shoes of who you used to be and be able to kind of give an olive branch to those type of rhetoric?
• 41:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I just know that I always say grace people have to be gracious.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, I'm on gracious.
• 42:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: I know that people are doing what they believe is right.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: Just like I did, what I believe I was right.
• 42:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: The Bible says that they will come, but they will kill you and think they're doing God a service.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: So,
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: Again, I've learned to believe that most people who hurt you are doing what they're doing, rarely do it on purpose.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_11]: They really believe what they're doing.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: So just like I was sincere, this and this and this.
• 42:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: And if they belong to Him, God will deal with them at the appointed time.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_11]: I see people coming to me.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: who've been raised in holiness and sanctification and who come to me and just come by the church or just come to me and say, this message of God they mad at me has just changed my life.
• 42:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: Just to know that God they mad at me has stonced concerned to me a good, not even.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: I always knew those scriptures that, it's stonced concerned that you're good, not even giving expect to end.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: But,
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: to be able to communicate it effectively and understand and let people know.
• 43:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: This is why God's not mad at you.
• 43:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: This is why His songs are good.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: Knowing that love is nature.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's the essence of who He is.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: He don't have love.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: He is love.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's who He is.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's changed in my life tremendously.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I've seen people's life change as a result.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_09]: So did the grace message come because of your own personal mistakes, or did it just come naturally, just seeking God and it was like, oh, I get the epiphany, or did you have to live out these different issues in the States to say, oh, his grace really is a fish?
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I don't think so because when I began to teach it, when I began to teach it, I'm going to tell you something.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: It was a challenge for me because again, I
• 43:50
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's like, I don't, this ain't right.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: Right.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I was fighting, I was fighting the message.
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I listened line up on line, preset upon the preset, heard someone teaching it.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: And like I said, Brother Wormick was able to communicate it to me in such a way that I was able to grasp, and I begin to teach it.
• 44:13
  [SPEAKER_11]: And there were people in the church who left
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: If I, you want to live, do what you want to do.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: But the confirmation that I was preaching the right message was the question came up to me that came up to Paul.
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: And you're all much after six.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: Shall we continue and sing?
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: That grace may have bound, well, if that question comes up, that means I'm preaching what Paul preached.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: If that question never comes up to you, you can be preaching what Paul preached, because whatever Paul preached was so radical.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: that they ask shall we continue and see them?
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: That grace may have bound, God forbid.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: How shall we that are dead to sin?
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: Living it longer, they're in.
• 44:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: And then, as a result of me teaching it, you learn.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you learn.
• 45:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, you learn that you may be living right, a living what you believe is right.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: But you're not doing it from the right place.
• 45:13
  [SPEAKER_11]: I've been seated there for a breath and Romans swear about the mercies of God that you've been sent your body to live in sacrifice.
• 45:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: Holy and acceptable.
• 45:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: All holiness is not acceptable.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I can be being holy, but it's not acceptable.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: If it's not rooted in the right place.
• 45:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: And there's a lot of people living the life, but they're living it.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: and performance toward God thinking that if I do this, God's gonna bless me.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: If I live this way, he's gonna move from it.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: These things are gonna happen from it.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: When God is doing nothing, it's hardly Lou, you're nothing in my life because of my performance, he's doing it, because of his performance, not because of what I did, but because of what Jesus did, you know.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: It just changed my life and see people's life changing as a result.
• 46:02
  [SPEAKER_09]: So I think Dr. Kreff's little dollar, you know, have now a similar message.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, and you know, I think your last great conference, I think I'm surprised to see him come and support and just be a bridges.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_09]: I know that when you come with such a quote unquote radical message, like some people fall away, but we call it the ninth mile when we run in America, you find new people who are that got this, you know, connecting you too.
• 46:27
  [SPEAKER_09]: Have you seen now that with this?
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_09]: Because this great thing feels very humble now.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: Like, because you guys in my opinion, when I was coming in was just really untouched.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it was like, you was the hottest thing on the block.
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm talking about Brian Cohen of, say, your address on the, you know, like, hey, it's somebody here at 853 Patterson Drive.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: Somebody like, oh my God, don't want to look in the face, he might call I say in the front all the time.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: Of course, Dr. Dollywood's who who he is.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_09]: What does it like now to now have alliance with different people who are preaching this grace message?
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: it's a challenge.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I love having those alliances, but again, it's a challenge because
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: They're not many who are teaching it, so it makes the circle extremely small because you don't have people who are teaching it.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: Because again, people think that you're coming in that church, do what you want to do, and that's not the message, but that's what people hear, and it relinquishes people's control over the people.
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: So even with me,
• 47:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: I start teaching grace radically.
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I see people in the church start changing and acting like they ain't got nothing.
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's a struggle for me personally.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: I thought, I was saying what you're doing.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: But then I have to say, if you don't teach it, teach it, and trust God in the sanctification process, so I did see people become loose.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_09]: So what does that mean, every like, oh man, because some people do me that way.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_09]: They'd be like, oh, Willie, you know, because you say, you say, say, well, you know what I mean?
• 48:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: Is that a certain performance that you have to live up to or standard?
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: No, it's an art posture.
• 48:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's hard, it's hard, but you know, I still got that rooter, that rooter of all.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, that religion, that tradition is just in so certain things I just, I don't care for.
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: I think the other day I went viral because I told the young man, it was my son guy.
• 48:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: He walked the net and had earrings in his ear.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I said, what did you got the move?
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: I said, you know, I said, I said, bro, Tyrone, what are you doing with the earrings in your ear?
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: Who your past is?
• 48:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, it's people in the church who have earrings in their ear.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: So it don't bother me.
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, because he was on my staff,
• 48:42
  [SPEAKER_09]: until you can't wear earrings.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: No, not on my staff.
• 48:44
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: Or one of my deacons tried to come around me the other day with the mirrorings on it.
• 48:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: I want the no.
• 48:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: Why not your ring?
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: All just take the mirrorings.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'll get on do that.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: We don't do that at all in this.
• 48:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: We don't do that at all in this.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_12]: But that ain't the heaven I have on things.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_12]: It's not the heaven I have on this.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_12]: It's just, it's just,
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's just something that's in me.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: You take the mirror and that's your ear.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I don't do that.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: We don't do that.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: And don't come in with that on chair.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, but I don't care, but I know it's no big deal.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: I know the Lord don't care.
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's just some stuff that's in me that I'm just going.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm a whole don too, because I do want
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: live in a constant tense and there must be a difference between the clean and the unclean, the holy and unholy.
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: I do believe that should be something about our attire, that lets people know that there's something different about you.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: Every industry has a uniform except for the church, and we believe that when the church enforces the uniform is bonded, no one says that about the military,
• 49:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: They tell you what to wear, they tell you when to go home, what to do.
• 50:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: Nobody tells us they're to the military.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: Walmart has a dress code.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: Burger King, Chick-fil-A, God dress code.
• 50:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: So when the church says,
• 50:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: You can't have a split from Genesis Revelation.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't understand why people get upset.
• 50:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: Now again, it's no big deal.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: You can go to heaven with your split.
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: You can go to heaven with all those things.
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I just believe that as you walk with him, the spirit of the Lord will begin to deal with your heart and say, all right, I want you to bring that in.
• 50:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: But it's on his timing.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I think that that's what we mess up.
• 50:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: We try to put people.
• 50:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: We try to be people's holy goats and don't allow the holy goats to be the holy goats and people's life.
• 50:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: So that's just a little challenge.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you know, and that was really, really challenging because they would say the same thing.
• 50:51
  [SPEAKER_09]: That was like, you know, the military has just another.
• 50:53
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I would always challenge to say, hey, so what branch though?
• 50:55
  [SPEAKER_09]: Because the army and the Marines, they have different uniforms.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_09]: I wanted to believe.
• 51:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: that as long as your heart posture is towards God, they can use you right where it was.
• 51:07
  [SPEAKER_09]: For the first seven years of my ministry, God will make me go out with a T-shirt.
• 51:11
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, I'm gonna cap, I got suits good Lord.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's all we used to do in college.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_09]: I was like, why do you have me in this T-shirt going in these people's churches?
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_09]: Right, right.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_09]: But that was a specific person that he had me on the signing with.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: I was called everything in the book.
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_09]: His shirt too tight.
• 51:25
  [SPEAKER_09]: He didn't flash he doing this.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, wait, probably was.
• 51:27
  [SPEAKER_09]: I like my body.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_09]: You know what I mean?
• 51:29
  [SPEAKER_09]: But I just knew what my calling was.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I feel like sometimes profit dead.
• 51:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: But you admit that tight shirt.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 51:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: You believe that was you.
• 51:37
  [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't have to, I didn't have to do small.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: I couldn't do it.
• 51:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: But he did say T-shirt, but it was me who wanted to show that that sign.
• 51:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: So, my first thing you told me is that God's gonna use you, but we're gonna have to make that T-shirt a little bit loose.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know that's what you say.
• 51:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: For real, so my only challenge, I would say to a person here, wherever you want to wear, do what you want to do.
• 52:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: But if it offend me, will you take it off?
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: Because if you won't, if you won't, now that you're not your heart posture, it's not in the right place.
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: If you're not willing to take it off, if it off ends me.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: So if I go to a church and I won't dress down, but they say to me,
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I wear suit here.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: If I'm not willing to put on the suit and become all things all men, that I might win some.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like I went on, but I'm just trying to win some.
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_11]: That would be my heart.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I don't bother folk.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: People coming KCC with all kind of clothes on, all kind of hat colors, all that kind of stuff.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: But not a, not a down that, not a down that stage.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: But then the church.
• 52:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: And they can wherever they want to win, look how they want to look.
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know what I'm gonna say.
• 52:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, no, no, it can't be up there, yeah, yeah.
• 52:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: you know a few years ago I went through divorce and that was so tough and my team was like why are you you know I know it's tough but why are you so down and I said I don't hear his voice no more.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_09]: It's a scary thing I've ever gone through since I've been saying.
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_09]: I couldn't feel his direction.
• 53:08
  [SPEAKER_09]: I couldn't hear his voice.
• 53:09
  [SPEAKER_09]: And then finally, when his voice came back, and I was just in a good place, I began to hear, and I just got, I stole a smile.
• 53:16
  [SPEAKER_09]: The process wasn't over, but I was happy again.
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_09]: I could hear his voice.
• 53:20
  [SPEAKER_09]: Have you ever been in the moment where you felt like as a prophet that God took his hand off you?
• 53:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: Never.
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: I never felt like the Lord taking his hand off for me.
• 53:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: There have been moments where I didn't understand what he was doing, there have been moments where I wanted him to speak more to me about me than he was speaking to me about other people.
• 53:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know,
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: I write now I got some before the Lord that I really would like for him to speak to me about, but he won't.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: He won't talk to me about America.
• 53:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, thank God for America.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I don't hear about that.
• 53:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, I really want the Lord to speak to me.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: But he won't.
• 53:58
  [SPEAKER_11]: And so, but he's God.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's my boss.
• 54:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: He don't work for me.
• 54:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: I work for him.
• 54:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: My life is not my home.
• 54:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm bought with a price.
• 54:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: So as much as I love him, I have a holy art and reverence toward him.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't belong to me.
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: So there are things in my journey that I wish I didn't go through.
• 54:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: And probably some things I would not have had to go through.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_11]: Had I made better decisions.
• 54:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I'm grateful that because I belonged to him, even my mistakes, work for my good.
• 54:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: So that makes sense.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_09]: That's been our love issue.
• 54:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: Going through their process, I won't lie.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: Man, I got on that alcohol pretty too.
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: and I became a back-biting, all that stuff, black and my smoking, jacks, dang you, such you won't get it.
• 54:52
  [SPEAKER_09]: With your sniff, yeah, with your sniff, I went to that.
• 54:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: So I went to that, and I leaned on those things when you look in those dark spots.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_09]: I know you were in dream.
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: I know you were in smoke because you say that loud.
• 55:06
  [SPEAKER_09]: But does Brown corn have a need for a woman in his life?
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_09]: Is there a healthy or unhealthy desire for women?
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_09]: No, I don't think so.
• 55:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'll be chipped.
• 55:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'd be good.
• 55:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: I got a preacher friend of mine called his name.
• 55:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: You would know him.
• 55:26
  [SPEAKER_11]: I just recently went through something, a couple of,
• 55:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: What does he, like, talk about?
• 55:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, right before June, July, I went through something.
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: And, I preached it called me.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: He said, you good, yes, I'm fine.
• 55:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: And he called another friend in the mind to ask him, is he good?
• 55:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: And he said, yeah, that's just how he is.
• 55:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: Like, I don't trauma bond.
• 55:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't need bonding through trauma.
• 55:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't need nobody to call me asking my good.
• 55:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't need no relationship talk to.
• 56:00
  [SPEAKER_11]: I fell in love with Jesus when I was a kid, and he's the most consistent person in my life.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: And in the darkest seasons of my life, I have always turned to him.
• 56:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: I will get on my face.
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: I will turn my plate down.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: This weight loss is trauma.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: You lay before the Lord, you turn that plate down, you seek Him, and you find out what He's doing, you locate Him, and so my dark places have always led me to spend that personal time with Him.
• 56:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I just,
• 56:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'd be chilling, and I'd be fine, and I just, I really don't like being bothered, but I just stayed in myself, and I'm, I mean, I like women like any other man.
• 56:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: But I'm, I'm, I'm late before it, nothing causes me to, yeah.
• 57:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm, if, if, if I got a room, if I got a stove, because I think I'm, I'm a cook, if I got a stove, and I got a floor,
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: I won't be good, I'm a lady for the Lord and I'll come out of it so.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you think because of this grace message that was going to come some 10 to 15 years later that the enemy had to put some type of stain or some type of, like what I noticed is that whenever a message is about to come out of person like to even doctor dial, I say it publicly.
• 57:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: I was like, oh, that's why you had to go through a lot of this fall to it.
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: That was like, oh, he's trying to get a plan this another was like, he don't really need job money for no plan.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: I was probably the only person in America
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, come on.
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_09]: He was on vacation.
• 57:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: That would be a staff member.
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: You just give me excuses.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: You go there.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, nah, kind of on the businesses that you go to and you don't know it.
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_08]: You know what I mean?
• 57:56
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I was like, oh, when I heard him preach this grace message of freedom and joy.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: He looks so jovial and his body's changed and his face is lighter.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: And now I look at you and it's like he's lost wave and he.
• 58:08
  [SPEAKER_09]: He looked like the 18, 19-year-old young man that I've seen some years later.
• 58:12
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you think the biggest attack is because of the message that I want to ask?
• 58:15
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, you have to become it.
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: You have to become your message.
• 58:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: You see, I'm the great skier.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I'm becoming that message, I'm communicating and showing people, I don't get wash wrong in your life.
• 58:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get what flaws in your life.
• 58:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get how jacked up you.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get what failure would flaw with misapp, mistake is taking place in your life.
• 58:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: God is faithful.
• 58:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: And if you are resting and is the love for you, nothing can kill you.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: I know the Lord loves Brian Keith Kahn Jr.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: I am his favorite child.
• 58:59
  [SPEAKER_11]: I am rooted in that.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: And because I know that,
• 59:05
  [SPEAKER_11]: I live there.
• 59:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: I just live in that place, and I've had to become the message.
• 59:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: Now, don't feel good.
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_11]: It doesn't always feel good, having to become what you preach because we're saying about grace it about much more.
• 59:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, you have the teach grace, but that means there are things in your life that God's going to put on display.
• 59:28
  [SPEAKER_11]: that you have to be willing to go through it.
• 59:30
  [SPEAKER_11]: Don't change the message, be faithful, continue the teacher, continue the preacher, and watch God bring you through it.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_09]: You see this a new alliance of young prophets coming up, and they accurate, pay on.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you ever look and say,
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: I need to pull this coat tail because I can see where this could go wrong.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you mentor young men who are kind of moving in that prophetic gift?
• 59:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I don't bother people because people don't listen.
• 59:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: And sometimes when you talk to people, they kind of think that you're jealous of them or whatever.
• 1:00:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I probably would like to.
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: people don't really, I'm in my own world, so I don't know, I'm, you know, if they ever sat down with me and would like to have a conversation, I would talk to them, I'm not sure the author, I shouldn't say that.
• 1:00:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: So yeah, yeah, I really don't, I'm just not sure the authenticity of a lot of these giftings that I see now.
• 1:00:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: So when you see somebody
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_09]: because you know, you'll give honestly worked on me.
• 1:00:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm like, hey, I know it might not have worked for you, but I don't know if your obedience was on point.
• 1:00:43
  [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: So as a prophet, when you look at these new young guys, are you seeing through like who they are when you say, hey, man, I don't know if they are authentic.
• 1:00:51
  [SPEAKER_09]: Like how does that work?
• 1:00:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't have that conversation.
• 1:00:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: I do a lot of praying for a lot of preachers, because the Lord said to me one time, you're not allowed to talk about who you've not prayed for.
• 1:01:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: So, I don't talk about people if I don't pray for it.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_11]: If I don't, if I'm not weak over their soul and interceded for them, I don't give an opinion about them because they're having pray and they're valuable to God.
• 1:01:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: There's one message that I attempt to tell everybody and it's
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: Stay humble and broken, just humility is the key.
• 1:01:32
  [SPEAKER_11]: Stay low.
• 1:01:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: I don't get whatever's in your life.
• 1:01:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: Stay low.
• 1:01:37
  [SPEAKER_11]: He that exhausts himself should be a base.
• 1:01:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: Your humble yourself on the mighty hand of God in due time.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_11]: He'll exhaust you.
• 1:01:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: Everybody has a season.
• 1:01:51
  [SPEAKER_11]: Profit Lovi.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_11]: California, he was riding high, everybody.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I just reached out to him, and I said, maximize your season, just maximize.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: And that's what I'd tell everybody.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: Right now, the new gown, the scene, right now is Joshua Jiles.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_11]: He the man, I mean, that man packed out the stadium then Dallas, I think, in like, in on the head, like 45 days.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: And told the people we're doing a pop-up in Dallas and packed it out.
• 1:02:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: There's a grace on them.
• 1:02:23
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, there's a grace on them.
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: And all I tell people to do is when you have these maximized your season, because they're preceding ends, you know, maximized it and walking humility and do what God tell you to do and just pray for people.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: I just, I love to pray.
• 1:02:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: everything that happened in my life, preaching, prophesying, singing, was really an outflow of the life of prayer that I was taught as a kid.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: I'm almost been my time with the Lord and I love on Him and I just like praying for the same.
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: So what does God say now?
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_09]: I know that you don't do a lot of prophesying anymore.
• 1:03:07
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, more pastor and now.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_09]: What do you feel like God is saying now with families in a very unique space with these United States of America?
• 1:03:16
  [SPEAKER_09]: Like what do you see in the spirit that we should be aware of?
• 1:03:20
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, Willie Mojoon, you're here.
• 1:03:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: Great conversation that I'm having with the one and only Brian Cohen.
• 1:03:26
  [SPEAKER_09]: However, I was thinking about you during this conversation as you were glued to the two, you may be a business owner.
• 1:03:32
  [SPEAKER_09]: And you're thinking to yourself, I would really like to promote on a show like this.
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_09]: A show that's integral.
• 1:03:38
  [SPEAKER_09]: We're one of the most engaging audiences on the internet.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_09]: Here's the thing, you can, but there is a really unique process that we look at.
• 1:03:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: Is your business about family?
• 1:03:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: Do you walk in integrity?
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_09]: It may be a beautiful partnership.
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_09]: But how do we find out that it's beautiful?
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_09]: you just have to hit that little email that's in this YouTube description.
• 1:03:58
  [SPEAKER_09]: Or right here as they put it here, send me an email.
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_09]: And 200 words a list, tell me a little bit about your business.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: And we may explore the option of partnership.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_09]: Now back to the show.
• 1:04:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: Well, of course, as you know, always, I always use to start my messages with the end of the world all upon us, with the consummation of time.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_11]: So that's what I used to do.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: But the end of the world, R&D, upon us, and the whole family dynamic, as we know it, Charlotte's gonna change.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: The number one ministry in the church will not be marriage ministry, it's gonna be singles ministry, there's been no more in the church.
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: People are not gonna get married no more.
• 1:04:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, they say the divorce rate is going down, but the divorce rate is not going down because people are not getting divorced.
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: The divorce rate is going down because people are not getting married.
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: People don't see the need for it, marriage anymore.
• 1:04:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: Everything is just changing and shifting.
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_11]: With AI, I'm concerned that people are even gonna go to church anymore.
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_11]: Helping is not gonna go to church if I wanna stay home and chill.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_11]: But,
• 1:05:07
  [SPEAKER_11]: We got some dark days ahead for us.
• 1:05:09
  [SPEAKER_11]: I told America a couple of them about a month or two ago.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_11]: Just make sure they have things in place because I saw America shut down completely.
• 1:05:19
  [SPEAKER_11]: Don't know how long it'll be for.
• 1:05:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: And I just want to challenge people to just fall in love with Jesus.
• 1:05:29
  [SPEAKER_11]: Get a deeper relationship with Him.
• 1:05:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: Know Him for real.
• 1:05:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: It can't be this church stuff.
• 1:05:37
  [SPEAKER_11]: Because all this is gonna fade.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_11]: Your relationship with God can be connected to everything, but
• 1:05:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: You're going to have the norm for real.
• 1:05:46
  [SPEAKER_11]: Church is going to become popular again.
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_11]: Not out of need.
• 1:05:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: With all the chaos that's coming to America, as we know, people are going to be running the church because it's going to be the only place of sanity.
• 1:06:03
  [SPEAKER_11]: It's going to be the only place of peace.
• 1:06:06
  [SPEAKER_11]: The only place where there'll be no chaos would be in the house all the faith.
• 1:06:10
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I was just challenged everybody to just fall deeper in love with Jesus.
• 1:06:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: No God for yourself.
• 1:06:16
  [SPEAKER_11]: Don't get caught up.
• 1:06:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: There's going to be a great separation of the week from the tear.
• 1:06:21
  [SPEAKER_11]: You're going to know who's consecrated and it's not going to be by the message.
• 1:06:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: I have ministers right now that I'm training at my church and I communicated to them and I said,
• 1:06:31
  [SPEAKER_11]: You know, AI don't replace your relationship with God.
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_11]: So a lot of people, and I was in time with the Lord.
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: They just type in what they won't God to give them a message on and chat.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_11]: She'd be teakers and they message like, you know, they're going hell.
• 1:06:44
  [SPEAKER_11]: But when I'm saying, I'm sorry, y'all.
• 1:06:46
  [SPEAKER_05]: That's the law.
• 1:06:47
  [SPEAKER_11]: That's the law.
• 1:06:48
  [SPEAKER_11]: But when I'm saying this, you just got to know him.
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: And the most ignored person on the globe is the Holy Spirit.
• 1:07:02
  [SPEAKER_11]: We got engaged in this spend time with him when you wake up in the morning that book changed my life Good morning Holy Spirit my pastor Benny Engage him.
• 1:07:14
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's the most ignored person in the universe.
• 1:07:18
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's your invisible friend
• 1:07:20
  [SPEAKER_11]: He walks with you.
• 1:07:22
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's present and we don't even talk to him.
• 1:07:25
  [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, we go days and never say, Holy Spirit, what should I do concerning this situation?
• 1:07:34
  [SPEAKER_11]: How should I move?
• 1:07:36
  [SPEAKER_11]: Should I date this person?
• 1:07:38
  [SPEAKER_11]: Should I marry this person?
• 1:07:40
  [SPEAKER_11]: Should I make this business deal?
• 1:07:43
  [SPEAKER_11]: We don't even engage him.
• 1:07:45
  [SPEAKER_11]: So I just want to challenge people to engage the Holy Spirit, talk to him, communicate with him.
• 1:07:52
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's a constant friend.
• 1:07:54
  [SPEAKER_11]: He's the most ignored person in the universe.
• 1:07:56
  [SPEAKER_11]: But if you engage him, he'll change your life.
• 1:08:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: Indeed.
• 1:08:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: You know, traditionally, I look right in this camera and I encourage the nation and Brian, I don't even know if it falls or touches your heart.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_09]: However, I will be remiss if I don't say that you are a wealth of information in the space of what.
• 1:08:20
  [SPEAKER_09]: hundreds of 100s and thousands of young pastors and leaders like you have seen it all and I just believe that you have a voice that can actually direct the next generation to make sure that they don't make the mistakes that they're going falling to because what they know about being a prophet is the sexy gift.
• 1:08:37
  [SPEAKER_09]: It's the gift that everybody desires.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_09]: Everybody like you know, I'm profit such and such and I'm sure not to do a little bit down the road You kind of looking like oh my god another one you know what I mean, but I just believe by faith that there may be an opportunity Somehow since so many people are coming to church
• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_09]: for you to make sure that these young guys and young women get an opportunity to do it in integrity that they don't outrun the pace of grace, that they don't fall in love with the claps so much that they don't say thus at the Lord.
• 1:09:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: Because the version that you are right now, like honestly, it's just filled with humility.
• 1:09:09
  [SPEAKER_09]: You can't fake this.
• 1:09:11
  [SPEAKER_09]: Like you can't fake what I see in today.
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_09]: Like anybody on the other side of the camera who can't see the humility that you're walking in now is blind spiritually.
• 1:09:18
  [SPEAKER_09]: I appreciate you, man, and I think God that he covered me from anything that you made of done, ever did, et cetera, et cetera, because it's just real.
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_09]: I just caught a check on you make sure that the profit cool, because if a duck and pull a truck, and you say it, I believe that you should hook it up.
• 1:09:33
  [SPEAKER_09]: But I think that you have really opened the eyes to the people that large to understand that Brian didn't really grow up with a father.
• 1:09:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: He was raised at the altar of church in Jesus.
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_09]: And so he knows what it run to.
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't know if you realize it that when I ask you about the young guys use like man I don't know if they were receiving yeah, I think maybe because when you were riding at that that way It was kind of like you might not could have received But the question becomes what could have you what could you have received?
• 1:10:04
  [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, because they needed like in the spirit I see I'd be like man because I look back and I'm like yeah, I was that young guy
• 1:10:12
  [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I'm just going to wear my T-shirt no matter what.
• 1:10:15
  [SPEAKER_09]: And the calling became rebellious because I don't want to be like them.
• 1:10:19
  [SPEAKER_09]: But then was already there and they may need a word too.
• 1:10:22
  [SPEAKER_09]: And we have to become all things to all men as Paul has asked us to do.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_09]: So man, I don't know what happens next with you besides his beautiful church in this this global ministry.
• 1:10:31
  [SPEAKER_09]: But I know that there's some little guys who really need the opportunity to hear the knowledge that you have.
• 1:10:36
  [SPEAKER_09]: I really believe that man and hopefully their hearts will receive it.
• 1:10:40
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hey family listen here's the thing I pray that you get the opportunity to connect with people like this all the time and how do you do that?
• 1:10:46
  [SPEAKER_09]: You do that by subscribing to this channel and telling the friend and another friend.
• 1:10:51
  [SPEAKER_09]: that they can love themselves more and hear a conversation that's going to be real honest and transparent.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_09]: I'm so grateful for all the people who watch today, all the people who are subscribed.
• 1:11:00
  [SPEAKER_09]: We are on our way to 300,000 subscribers, shout out to Shakwana, the meet-your-the-content factor.
• 1:11:05
  [SPEAKER_09]: Everybody that we get an opportunity to partner with, to make sure that this show goes on our honor and appreciate you.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_09]: Hey family, listen, as I always tell you, make sure that you stay humble and love yourself.
• 1:11:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Love you more, love you more, love you more, love you more.