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- 0:00Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
- 0:03I'm here with Alison. This is maintaining frame number seventy five. We're gonna
- 0:09be talking about women. I don't know if you guys are new to this
- 0:12channel, but we talk about women sometimes we also talk about men. I
- 0:20regret, I regret to inform you gentlemen. Yeah, women, Yeah it
- 0:29is yo. I have that means saved on my computer. Are you kidding
- 0:32me? I regret to inform you that women. Let me let me share
- 0:39actually my browser with you because we have to watch this video anyway. So
- 0:44there you go, gentlemen, is with great sadness to inform you that women.
- 0:50So on today's show, we're going to be going through a video that
- 0:57was put out on Pearls Channel, but I discovered it through Peter Wright.
- 1:00Peter Wright has been writing on men's issues for a very long time. He
- 1:06doesn't generally make like, you know, public appearances or any contest. He's
- 1:12just like a ghost writer. Is based on how I know him. You
- 1:15know, he posts on Twitter, he posts on his blog. He doesn't
- 1:19speak to people generally, and he has a particular focus on gynocentrism as a
- 1:25concept, and so he shared a video from peerl and gave her a lot
- 1:30of props, and I was I was interested. So I went to Peter
- 1:34Wright's website and I looked at this video and it's kind of recent and I
- 1:38thought we would respond to it. So, yeah, Peter Wright has been
- 1:45doing this for a while. He's kind of an MVP. Shout out to
- 1:49the Rumble Gang and mister O THREEO three mangaka ninety two what's up uh?
- 1:53And hello to you guys in YouTube on Twitch and Twitter and face book,
- 2:00et cetera. So anyway, we're gonna be looking at this video from Pearl
- 2:04where she is talking she is okay, So this is like three or four
- 2:08four levels of response video in right, So there was there's a man on
- 2:13the Street video and Pearl is responding to a response from Tristan Tate, who
- 2:23is Andrew Tate's brother, And we are gonna be responding to Pearl and the
- 2:28original. We're gonna be responding to all of them, Okay, all of
- 2:31the videos. So yeah, it's definitely this is like that sound, that
- 2:38sound, the inception sound. There was a when the movie came out there
- 2:46was a button. You could just press the button to make the sound the
- 2:49inception sound. All I have is this was that? Was that a sound?
- 2:58I didn't know? You didn't hear No, I can't hear your sounds?
- 3:01Why for whatever reason? Yeah, it's it's the right it's the right
- 3:07audio output. Anyway, it was. It was a done done done so
- 3:13yeah, anyway, okay, So before we get into it, Before we
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- 4:30appreciated when people do that. All right, back to you, Rian,
- 4:34it's nice to know that we're not crazy. All right, let us go
- 4:40ahead and start this video. So I have done some color corrections, so
- 4:45if Pearl looks a little you know, ill, it's not her. It's
- 4:48the it's the way that I've adjusted the filters. So this is just to
- 4:54protect us from any copyright shenanigans that might happen. All right, let's start.
- 5:00Are you in there, Alison? Can you see the video? It
- 5:02should be a black screen, but yes, I can see it. We're
- 5:05good. Let's do it. Okay. So there was a video going viral
- 5:10on Twitter and so many people were weighing in a woman being interviewed on the
- 5:14street street saying she wants a minimum of two hundred dollars for a dinner.
- 5:17Let's pull it up. I feel like, if I'm gonna get ready and
- 5:21I'm gonna use all my products to come out with you, I need like
- 5:25a minimum of two hundred dollars a minimum. And that's like being nice.
- 5:30I'm just pausing it there for the banana. I'm just gonna ask you,
- 5:34guys, do you think that's reasonable? Do you think I'm just I already
- 5:41know what your answer is going to be. But I want to know if
- 5:45there was a woman and you wanted to take her on a date and she
- 5:49said, or maybe she won't tell you, but she internalized in her mind,
- 5:54if you don't spend at least two hundred dollars on this date, I'm
- 6:00not going to go out with you. And this is not a joke.
- 6:01This is what she really thinks. But I was mostly just pausing for the
- 6:04banana. So let's play the rest of this clip. What does a man
- 6:08get in return for that? My presence? But aren't you having his presence
- 6:13within you already? I hear you, But no, no, I mean
- 6:17like I'm here different, Oh, you. I'm here to get to know
- 6:19you. You invited me out, but he has to drop two hundred dollars.
- 6:23Yeah, because yeah, just because just because you have to do your
- 6:28makeup because I have to. Oh. Okay, So now she's getting sassy
- 6:35because she wasn't sassy before, and she's going to explain. She's going to
- 6:42explain how much she invests in her makeup and this is a justification for how
- 6:46much she expects a man to spend on her. Okay, so we're gonna
- 6:51do the math. My moisturizer is four hundred dollars, My I cream is
- 6:55three hundred dollars, My serum is like another three hundred dollars. My makeup,
- 6:59you know, not included. So if I have to spend you know,
- 7:01that's my money. I'm spending my money on these products. I'm going
- 7:05to use these products for myself. Okay. But I'm gonna use these products
- 7:11and I'm gonna show up because it's not like I'm going to show up in
- 7:13sweats. The man doesn't know you anything. If you're just getting to know
- 7:15each other, if you're inviting me out, you owe me a day.
- 7:19Okay, Great minds, think of like that's you know, that's just I
- 7:30don't know, like I don't really run in those circles. But it sounds
- 7:36like more that she's not interested in a relationships. She's interested in being what's
- 7:45a don't I don't okay, A A amateur amateur lady of the night?
- 7:50Shall we? This is what I will ask because this has gone super viral
- 8:00and you're what you're going to hear is there's gonna be people who are going
- 8:03to say this is a fringe case, and I'm prepared to believe it,
- 8:11but my gut says it's not. So what I'm wondering, what do you
- 8:16guys think? Do you think that this level of entitlement, because that's what
- 8:20this is, right, she is basically like, I have spent what was
- 8:24it like, seven hundred dollars on essentially products made of baby fore skins to
- 8:31make me look youthful and and I guess fertile, because that's the purpose of
- 8:37makeup at the end of the day. It's to send out signifiers of fertility
- 8:41and youth so that it attracts men. Men generally don't care about makeup because
- 8:48they prefer that it you know, what they're looking at is real, but
- 8:50she is essentially using baby fore skins to make herself look more attractive, and
- 8:56that the men have to pay for it. And she said two hundred dollars
- 9:01if she's being nice, So it's probably her minimum bar is probably higher.
- 9:07And I bet if you came with just right at two hundred dollars, she'd
- 9:11probably not call you back. Like, let's be real, But I want
- 9:16to know how common do you think that is? Do you think this is
- 9:18a fringe case? Have you seen stuff like this in your day to day
- 9:22life. I'm just curious. I'm not gonna be like making generalizations. This
- 9:28woman speaks for herself, but I'm curious, how common do you think this
- 9:31is? So, Alison, did you want to say something to that.
- 9:37I think it's very common. I think that. I think so too.
- 9:41I think it's extremely common for a woman to believe that a man should pay
- 9:46for her time and she should not have to pay for his. His presence
- 9:52doesn't actually value, isn't equivalent to hers, And in sudden way, it's
- 9:56extremely difficult to have a long term relationship with someone with that attitude. Oh
- 10:00yeah, Like it's how at some point, all you're bringing to the table
- 10:05is the willingness to build a life together, like you know once once the
- 10:11finances are merged. But it and the attitude is but I think, I
- 10:18think, actually Pearl does a good job of covering that part. She does.
- 10:22We're going to play that part, but I just wanted to get your
- 10:24impressions and the and our viewers impression before I play Pearl's response. So yeah,
- 10:33so anyway, let's play some more of the video. Okay, So
- 10:37I have a couple of questions when I hear this one. Why is her
- 10:41presence more valuable than his presence? Yes, women put money and time and
- 10:45effort into their looks. Men put time and effort into building a career,
- 10:48getting into good shape. They put in hundreds of hours to become the person
- 10:54that women want to go on dates with. So my question to her is
- 10:56why is your time more valuable than his? And I actually agree with the
- 11:03interviewer. I think in the beginning, money doesn't matter. I know,
- 11:05we're in twenty twenty three, A lot of women expect that most men aren't
- 11:09even too fussy about it. But to me, her attitude is the problem.
- 11:13It is entitlement and if she feels entitled to your money. Now,
- 11:16what is going to change in ten years when she takes you to family court
- 11:20and zing? Yeah, is that the right word? Zing something? But
- 11:28no, no, I'm just trying to think of a good a good sound
- 11:33for yes, this is correct. Oh, ding dinging. I don't know,
- 11:37yeah, ding dinging. I don't have that handy. I do have
- 11:41some yeses, I guess so nah, yeah, I agree, Alex,
- 11:46I'll take She's got a really good point for two hundred No, yeah,
- 11:52no, she's She's absolutely right and honestly, like I don't pay the two
- 12:00hundred bucks. You know what, don't even pay the two hundred bucks.
- 12:03Go get yourself a pro. What I mean by that is yeah, or
- 12:11maybe not, you know, maybe if she's less attractive, But you can
- 12:15at least get a woman who's going to not be dishonest about the fact that
- 12:20it's a business transaction and explain what you have to pay upfront and what you
- 12:26get for it, as opposed to whatever the hell this is, which is
- 12:30I guess more like akin to playing the slots, playing see what you did
- 12:37there? Yeah, but it's like okay, So for whatever reason in this
- 12:43circumstance, it's illegal if if the if the transaction has the the amounts per
- 12:52service upfront, as opposed to it just being a Russian roulette, like just
- 12:58just gambling. And that's an interesting how this particular type of transactional service is
- 13:03illegal if it's gambling legal, if it's gambling not not legal if it isn't.
- 13:09I'm just saying like, because that's what she is, that's her mentality.
- 13:15She's not thinking of her sex in terms of building a relationships sharing something
- 13:20with another human being. She's using it in terms of acquiring resources. That's
- 13:26it. Like the woman, like I said, I say that she's like
- 13:30she's an amateur Lady of the Knight, And I actually honestly think that sort
- 13:35of insults Lady of the Knights because they at least are honest about it and
- 13:41clear and upfront and practical. She wants to be utterly dishonest about her nature
- 13:48and pretend. And then the funny thing is that fine, be that way,
- 13:54but I can guarantee what you won't end up with at the end of
- 13:56the day. You want to end up with a companion, yeah or yeah,
- 14:05or you're gonna end up with like, I don't know, someone that
- 14:09will probably be sort of psychopathic and dominant. I mean, like, I
- 14:15don't know. I don't think it'll be a person of quality. But maybe
- 14:18it's because you're not a person of quality. You need to work on yourself,
- 14:22you know. Maybe it's not enough that you've spent five hundred dollars on
- 14:24makeup products. Maybe you should be looking at what you're spending your money on
- 14:28and why eventually you're gonna stop wearing it. I mean, at some point,
- 14:33you gotta be yourself. You gotta be real. And if she said
- 14:37to me, like, I'm not gonna show up in sweats, I would
- 14:39have been like, well why not. Why don't we just go for a
- 14:43jog or something? Why don't we go? Yeah, I mean I want
- 14:48to know what I'm gonna wake up next to. I don't want like this
- 14:52curated you know, ambassador of car art, you know, yeah, the
- 14:58IMA the representative of who you are. I want I want, you know,
- 15:03I want to know who you are. You want to tour the downstairs.
- 15:07I want to take a look at your I want to take a look
- 15:09at your furnace, see how that's running before I buy or not buy,
- 15:16but just spent waste time on it, and I don't know it. But
- 15:20this is like, this is a different kind of This is a different world
- 15:26I think than the ones that I that I sort of traveled in. Well,
- 15:31I don't remember it being quite this. I don't think you had a
- 15:33wild Did you have a wild period in your youth? Yeah? Maybe,
- 15:39but not really more of an awkward period. I mean I did. I
- 15:46did some clubbing stuff, but I'm a guy. It's not going to be
- 15:50the same anyway. Yeah. Well, I mean I did do clubbing stuff,
- 15:54but I didn't I did not attempt to look attractive, shall we say,
- 16:02absolutely in the opposite direction at the time. It was, it was
- 16:06it was an awkward time in my life. I'll just you weren't you weren't
- 16:10basic? This this woman, I was definitely not basic. Yes, okay,
- 16:18all right. So on the first time I met my husband and we
- 16:22went we actually went Dutch, right, We just went to a bar.
- 16:27Yeah. It was just like just to hang out and see if if we
- 16:30could tolerate each other. Right, It wasn't really a date. It was
- 16:33maybe like friendship kind of thing. We met on a channel called channel.
- 16:41It was called it was a I r C Internet relay channel, so that
- 16:45you tell old I am, And they had channels for you know, cities,
- 16:51and somebody just came in cities and countries. And someone came on Channel
- 16:55Canada when I was about to leave and say, hey, is there anybody
- 16:56from Calgary here? And I'm like, oh, hey, I'm coming from
- 16:59Calgary. And then we chatted, and you know, it's it was one
- 17:03of those chats where you got along, you know what I mean. It
- 17:07was easy to talk because you had some shared interests and stuff. And eventually,
- 17:11because I would go out with my friends to bars and we'd just hang
- 17:14out because that's sort of what you did when you were a college student,
- 17:18I invited him to go to the bar and we could hang out and talk
- 17:22in person. And we did, and I actually drove him from like the
- 17:29train station, and I met him and and he was he remembers this distinctly.
- 17:33I met him in a plaid lumber jacket, army boots and jeans like
- 17:41like army boots, and he was like shocked, not not shocked bad,
- 17:48but just surprised. And he said it was intriguing because I looked like the
- 17:52opposite of what he was expecting from city girls, because he'd been trying to
- 17:56date city girls for the past couple of months, and he was really intrigued
- 18:02by that because I look, he said, you looked country, you look
- 18:04more country, and he came from the country. So then we got to
- 18:10know each other, and you know, it found out that it was,
- 18:12you know, we liked each other. And I never expected him to pay
- 18:17for anything. I'm weird though, I know I'm really weird for a woman
- 18:21yet bit, but I mean, like, I think that's also like if
- 18:25Hannah and Karen were here, they would probably say somebody similar to think of
- 18:27that. Like, he's a little bit strange for men too, because instead
- 18:32of being repulsed, he was intrigued by the fact that looks so different.
- 18:37And so it was almost like we didn't do the whole male female courtship thing.
- 18:45Sort of later cards on the table and we found out that we were
- 18:48compatible and this unit is compatible with this other unit. Union. It's like,
- 18:57you remember, do you remember Frasier? You remember his uh when he
- 19:02was on Cheers, his girlfriend Lilith. It was like the best character.
- 19:07Do you remember Lilith? Do you guys remember Lylith from from Cheers? Yeah?
- 19:11Great, yeah, just hilarious. Yeah, why he was so fixated
- 19:17on that other chick. Seemed like Lilith is appropriate for her. Oh I
- 19:22know that. I think that was everybody felt that way, like everybody wanted
- 19:26them to stay together. Yeah, like she was well for him. Yeah,
- 19:32yeah, no, it was. Yeah, it was sort of like
- 19:33that. We just uh oh, I just liked each other. Yeah,
- 19:37and then dawn into having a life together and it was all done in probably
- 19:42the exact opposite way of this woman. Yeah. Well, I mean this
- 19:48woman is still this woman is still out there, and she looks a little
- 19:52like she doesn't look she's in her twenties, you know, I mean when
- 19:55you look when you when you dress up like that. But let's be on.
- 20:00She's compensating for something for sure. She's got nothing up top, like
- 20:03she's got nothing to go go for her, going for her? Well when
- 20:07why he said, what do you offer? And she's like, my presence
- 20:11because it's not like, oh I don't know my values, my ideas,
- 20:15my my theories about life. My here's here's like what I think about Aristotle
- 20:19and Tolstoy. No, nothing like that, just my presence, Okay,
- 20:26my looks. I mean I think I think the average guy if he's not
- 20:30thinking with his penis, is going to be like, I don't want to
- 20:33be anywhere near that, you know so, And even if he was,
- 20:37he'd probably be looking at her friend because her friend looked more attractive than she
- 20:41did. Are you want to go back and show I'll show you. I
- 20:45think your friend was holl Yeah, it's it's it's probably taste, but we
- 20:48could take a look. Let's let's do the caddy thing. Let me hundred
- 20:52dollars. My cream is three hundred dollars. My serum is wait, I
- 20:56gotta go back a little bit more because you have to do your makeup because
- 21:02I have to. Okay, So look, Yeah, her friend is like,
- 21:10she's looking away because she was She's like, I don't know her.
- 21:15Let's see the expression on her friend's face. We're gonna do the math.
- 21:19Did you see that? What? Hold on? We're gonna the math?
- 21:27Yeah. See. Anyway, I wonder what her thoughts on the whole matter.
- 21:38I don't know. I don't know. We never I don't think we
- 21:41ever got that clip. That's that's her right there. Yeah. I think
- 21:45I think she's she looks very skeptical. Yeah, I think so. Yeah,
- 21:51that is kind of a giveaway. Her friend's face can't lie. But
- 21:56anyway, I was at like one, like right around here, think you're
- 22:00too okay, two minutes, let me see an effort into building a career.
- 22:03Yeah you're right, yeah, yeah, right, two minutes. It
- 22:07is entitlement. And if she feels entitled to your money, now, what
- 22:11is going to change in ten years when she takes you to family court.
- 22:15And the other thing that people don't realize is chivalry is actually guino centric.
- 22:18So what is ginocentrism? Gino centrism messes up the natural order of the world.
- 22:25I am Catholic. I believe the natural order of the world goes God,
- 22:27men, women, children. I believe women are most happy when they
- 22:32are served than that. Okay, all right, okay, I'm also Catholic
- 22:37technically really was Catholic, yes, oh oh, but yeah, okay,
- 22:41but you're not like practicing, You're like not particularly no, although I get
- 22:48I mean I was. I was Catholic as like a child, like when
- 22:51I was really little, you know, I was baptized. Yeah yeah,
- 22:55yeah, but no. The thing is that she's sort of omitting something here,
- 23:00which I think is really critical. It's not just women submit to their
- 23:04husbands. But men sacrifice for their wives as Christ's sacrifice for the church.
- 23:11And if you think about what Christ sacrificed, that's a lot. That's a
- 23:15pretty high bar, hypergamous bar of sacrifice. There shall we say, become
- 23:22the demigod of sacrifice or you don't deserve her. So there is guinocentrism in
- 23:26Catholicism. And honestly, if you think about it, women are supposed to
- 23:32submit to men. Men are supposed to sacrifice for women. So what is
- 23:37it that women are really submitting to men sacrifice for them. Yeah, it's
- 23:42a sneaky little thing, but it's it, doesn't it like, it's not
- 23:45it itself is really centering the benefit of women, right, the benefit of
- 23:52the woman the man is supposed to sacrifice for her. And I've even had
- 23:59like I've even read path or Christian women this is more Christian all overall than
- 24:03it is necessarily Catholic. But I've had I've read Christian women say that,
- 24:07you know, calling other Christian out women out for the fact that this admonition
- 24:12puts more weight on their their husbands than it does on them. Okay,
- 24:18so the entire relationship revolves around the man sacrificing for his wife. And again,
- 24:23you're not submitting too much if you're submitting to a person who is obligated
- 24:27to sacrifice for you, and that is their spiritual identity if you think about
- 24:33it, like really, and so that to say that Catholicism isn't kind of
- 24:38centrism or that, oh God, Catholicism isn't kind of centrism, I invite
- 24:44you to go to Rome and walk around the streets and and see the image
- 24:49on every street corner and Mother Mary holding the Jesus, the infant Jesus.
- 25:00Yeah, like it's Catholicism is pretty ginocentric. And in the mythology, like
- 25:08in the I guess more, I would honestly call them more pagan aspects of
- 25:14the mythology, there is this focus on the idea that male sexuality is damaging
- 25:19to women, like it's it's it's what takes the human race away from God.
- 25:26And the way that the human race came closest to God, or a
- 25:30human came closest to God was through the process the female process of reproduction.
- 25:36So there's there is some serious ginocentrism in the Christian theology, and it's not.
- 25:41It's not erased by this idea that women submit to men. In fact,
- 25:49it's emphasized in a lot of ways in my opinion. And furthermore,
- 25:53when we do this thing where we have men in we presumptively in power.
- 26:00First of all, I wonder how much that that is reality and how much
- 26:03it's just flattery and ceremony, And it's not. It doesn't actually reflect reality.
- 26:08And instead, when we say men are the head of their wives,
- 26:14what we really mean is, well, we'd rather that head role if she
- 26:18does something that you know is punishable. You see what I'm saying. We'd
- 26:22rather we use the perception or the the statement that men are in charge in
- 26:27order to make them take responsibility for the actions of women, because we give
- 26:33them no actual functional way of controlling their women. You know, how can
- 26:40a man keep a woman in line, really, especially since he's admonished that
- 26:45he has to sacrifice for her? All right? So this whole thing.
- 26:49The other thing is that psychologically, when you put men in a position of
- 26:53supposed dominance over women, you the the sacrifice there is that we have less
- 27:03of ability to see their vulnerabilities to women and to recognize them as legitimate so
- 27:11you put men in a position of recognizing their agency. When we do that
- 27:17to any group of people we recognize their agency, we are less willing to
- 27:22care about them when they're harmed. And this is like, this is apparently
- 27:26part of psychology. Maybe it has a replicability crisis in that finding, but
- 27:32I don't know. But regardless, we prefer to do damage to people we
- 27:37perceive as having more power because we think they can take it, or we
- 27:41just don't care. So when we put men at the head, we're also
- 27:47putting them in a position where we prefer them to see them be harmed,
- 27:52and that could be really dangerous for men in a lot of cases. And
- 27:56so I mean I and also when we put men in position of responsibility over
- 28:00women, that's not a benefit. Like nobody would ask parents who are going
- 28:08to be the guardians and responsible for children that will never grow up and be
- 28:15able to take care of themselves, if that is a benefit to them,
- 28:18or if it is actually a huge detriment and a responsibility that weighs very heavily
- 28:22on them. Now, imagine a man being expected to take responsibility for somebody
- 28:27who will never be expected to take adult responsibility for her actions, but nevertheless
- 28:34has adult intelligence and in many cases a great amount of influence and control and
- 28:41power over the person who has to take responsibility for their for her choices.
- 28:47You know, it starts to sound less and less and less and less attractive.
- 28:51And I would say that recognizing that women in a relationship with men are
- 28:55often the dominant partner, the socially, emotionally, actually financially dominant partner.
- 29:04Recognizing that fact and starting to hold women accountable for it is a is a
- 29:11better way to go. But you know, I could be wrong, because
- 29:14again, it might be a situation where men would prefer to be seen as
- 29:18the more powerful partner even if they're not, because it feels less embarrassing or
- 29:23humiliating, you know what I mean. So I don't know, but in
- 29:27my opinion, the only way forward is to recognize the amount of power women
- 29:33hold in relationships with men and start to hold them responsible for it. Okay,
- 29:38like, start to recognize it and start to just slap away those excuses.
- 29:44Ah he made No he didn't. Ah he was hitting me and I
- 29:49had nothing to do. No. You know, actually you hit him for
- 29:52days beforehand, you know, that kind of thing, not allowing women to
- 29:56play the victim and to play the vulnerable party and stop pretending like men have
- 30:03thrall over women because they don't like if anybody has. You remember what I
- 30:10one of the things that I loved about Barbie, the Barbie movie. And
- 30:12I know that you're rolling your eyes or cringing off there. Okay, good
- 30:17good, I'm glad. I'm not causing you distress. One of the things
- 30:22I liked about the Barbie movie and it wasn't because of you know, something
- 30:25that the creator did intentionally. She unintentionally revealed something very interesting. Do you
- 30:30remember how they just sort of glossed over how the kens enacted the patriarchy.
- 30:37Yeah, I know, he just in a day he had basically taken over.
- 30:41Yeah, he just he just handled it and the women were under their
- 30:45thrall basically, Yes, but the creator completely hand waved it. And if
- 30:49you think about it, knowing how men enact patriarchy would be just about the
- 30:56most important thing for a feminist to know if they wanted to oversee throw it
- 31:00and she hand waved it, and this this should there should be there should
- 31:03be I want to say, gallons, there should be volumes of research in
- 31:08feminist gnosis on how men create patriarchy, and there's none. They have absolutely
- 31:17no explanation for how men put women in their thrall, And yet just a
- 31:23few minutes later they very clearly see show the sequence in which women put men
- 31:30in their thrall, you know, influence and manipulate men. You know why
- 31:36because they know that they understand it, and it's obvious. The truth is
- 31:44that men do not put women in their thrall. I actually suspect that it's
- 31:51I don't think that it's really even possible. But women do that to men
- 31:56all the time. They manipulate men all the time. And they can clearly,
- 32:00clearly illustrate how men women are manipulating men, and they cannot, for
- 32:06the life of them, can figure out how any man like It's not just
- 32:13it's not just one particularly good, one like one particularly adroit and one particularly
- 32:20adept woman manipulating men. It's all women. But they can't figure out how
- 32:24all men like that, every single man has the ability to manipulate women.
- 32:30You see what I'm getting at, Like, you maybe say that this individual
- 32:35man is a master manipulator, but how do what by what means do all
- 32:39men manipulate women? They couldn't show that because they don't know, because there's
- 32:44nothing there to show. But they could show you how the average woman or
- 32:49all women manipulate men, because it's obvious and everybody it has. It has
- 32:57the ring of truth, doesn't it. Anyways, I just wanted to point
- 33:00that out, that they could clearly demonstrate they can clearly illustrate women manipulating men.
- 33:06They could not clearly illustrate men manipulating women because they don't know how the
- 33:12hell it happened. They just don't have any clue. But they need to
- 33:15be reality. Yeah, well, they literally think that. They literally think
- 33:20that men actively talk about patriarchy, right, I mean that like Ken goes
- 33:24to the guy in the human world and he's like, I thought that you
- 33:28guys had patriarchy and the guys that we still have it, we just keep
- 33:31it a secret or something like that, right, And it's like, yeah,
- 33:34that's the conversation that's never taking place, not seriously anyway. No.
- 33:40I mean, if she, like legit, believes that, I wouldn't be
- 33:45surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. But okay, let's keep going. And
- 33:52what Shilbo redid is actually it started with proposals. So men used to kneel
- 33:57to kings, and that goes with the natural order of the world. The
- 34:00weaker men would submit to stronger men. Okay, So what they did was
- 34:06they replaced the stronger man with a woman. That's ginocentric. It's putting the
- 34:10men below the women. That is ginocentrism, and that is why we have
- 34:15all of the problems we have today. It's not just from one hundred years
- 34:17ago. It's not two hundred years ago. This goes back a thousand years
- 34:22and goes back to the Yeah, honestly, read Ovid like a lot of
- 34:29the the chivalry and the courtly love. You can even see it in Ovid,
- 34:32and he lived like he was born forty six PC. But the what
- 34:39I wanted to point out is that I think that the idea that ginocentrism requires
- 34:45women to be on top of men is not the case. I think that
- 34:51ginocentrism requires women men to be motivated by women, and I think that it's
- 35:00honestly, as far as I can tell, it's pretty universal. Men are
- 35:02motivated by women. Huh and uh. And if we don't recognize it,
- 35:12if we see it as women on you know, women leading men. It's
- 35:15not it's it's women. It's it's not men submit to your wives. It
- 35:23is men sacrifice for your wives. That's where the kind of centrism comes in.
- 35:30Does that make sense? Yeah, But I I was gonna say,
- 35:36I think that women motivating men is what the strength of our species is.
- 35:42Though, Like, women have the power to motivate men to do great things.
- 35:47And I think that that it's it's not the effect that women have on
- 35:53men alone that's bad. It's that they're there is women with that are acting
- 36:00badly and men that are unable to discern it. Like I think that men
- 36:05should not serve women if those women are not like, you know, honorable
- 36:09women or good women. But like I serve like Lindsay sometimes, and she
- 36:15serves me sometimes, so you know, like I don't see a problem there
- 36:19because I love her and I want to, you know, I want to
- 36:25help her. I want I want to serve her, and she serves me.
- 36:29She cooked dinner today, it was delicious. So I don't think that
- 36:32that instinct that men have to like serve women or help women or whatever it
- 36:39is, protect women. I don't think that is in and of itself a
- 36:43bad thing. And I don't think it's ever gonna go away either. But
- 36:46I think that when you have women like the women that she's responding to,
- 36:52they're bad actors, like they're they're exploiting men. So you know, there
- 36:59are people who would say, like, for example, I would never sacrifice
- 37:02for a woman. Well, you probably shouldn't for most women, but maybe
- 37:07if there is a woman that you feel like, you know that she is
- 37:12like ride or die like with you all the way, then yeah, you
- 37:15probably will and she would probably do the same for you. So I don't
- 37:21think it's the act of sacrifice itself that's the problem. I think it's a
- 37:24good thing that it's there for people who might need it. Otherwise everyone's just
- 37:30gonna do whatever is in their best interests, and there might as well not
- 37:32be any people pairing up. But it should be for the right reasons with
- 37:37the right people. That woman is not the right person, men should not
- 37:43do anything for her, and that's not like obviously feminists would say it's misogyny
- 37:47to do that, because they're rigging like the whole interactions between men and women
- 37:53so that men can't say no to women or should not say no to women.
- 37:58Otherwise they'll be shamed. But men should definitely say no to women.
- 38:02I mean, like, and that doesn't mean any It doesn't make them bad
- 38:07people. It makes them better people because they're discerning. They have to discriminate,
- 38:12right, Like I choose if I choose Lindsey over some other women,
- 38:16it's it's not because I hate the other woman. It's because I prefer my
- 38:22wife, so I'm going to discriminate in favor of her. And I think
- 38:25that I don't know if I'm making any sense, but I'm saying, like
- 38:30the I don't have a problem with the sacrifice, and I don't think that
- 38:35necessarily makes it gynocentric, because we make sacrifices for people that we care about,
- 38:39whether it's family or children or our partners significant others. So it's not
- 38:45that, but it's it's like, what is the worth of the person you're
- 38:50doing this for, or you're being asked to do this for. What is
- 38:53what are they? You know? Who are they to you? And if
- 38:57they're just like a random woman, then no, you don't really have an
- 39:00obligation to do that. And chivalry, by the way, it wasn't it.
- 39:05I mean, I know Allison knows this, but it wasn't exclusively a
- 39:09thing for women. It was actually like a thing amongst men. It was
- 39:13a you know, a code of behavior of conduct that men like had for
- 39:19each other. And it just like it's been heavily distorted to be like about
- 39:24women, but it's not about women, you know. It's like it's like
- 39:28the rules of of of gentlemen, of like you know, of I guess
- 39:32you could say knighthood. I mean that's what I think, you know.
- 39:39Okay, I got a super Oh that's okay, I got a super chat.
- 39:45Alberniita retrogus is five dollars Canadian and says, hey, Brian, the
- 39:47top secret Patriarchy meeting is at two thirty pm Sunday at the usual place.
- 39:52I'll see you there. Don't tell everyone about it. See now we got
- 39:57to change the time, day and location, and we're not gonna call it
- 40:00patriarchy anymore. We're gonna call it the Eagle's Nest. Okay, So anyway,
- 40:08I will send the cipher via carrier pigeon and it will self destruct in
- 40:14thirty seconds after you read it. All right, But anyway, thank you
- 40:17for the super chat. Does anyone have do you have any Thank yous or
- 40:22anything. You didn't get some last time, but we didn't go through them,
- 40:27do you remember. Oh no, I don't have any thank yous at
- 40:30the moment either. Oh yeah, we thank you to Richard Pierre for putting
- 40:36in one hundred bucks. Thank you excellent. We haven't really received anything since
- 40:42then. It's usually pretty flow in the beginning. Yeah, yeah, I
- 40:45know, I know. I just thought since there was a pause and I
- 40:47was reading a super chat, we will just check in on it. Okay,
- 40:52all right, Well, let's play some more. What she's asking for.
- 40:55She's saying, do all this for me, plan the date, do
- 40:58all this for me and serve me, when really, I believe relationships work
- 41:04when the women serve the men. That is the best strategy. So let's
- 41:07pull up the next clip. It's a black dude with a microphone walking around
- 41:12Miami and saying to a girl, Hey, girl, what's the minimum a
- 41:15man should spend on the first date. I'm pausing it there for a moment.
- 41:22Again. This is the banana. This is Tristan Tate, not Andrew
- 41:23Tate. Obviously, it's his brother. But from what I have seen,
- 41:29and I don't watch a lot of their content, they basically feel the same
- 41:32way about things. So what we'll just look, well, just remember this
- 41:37is Tristan Tate, not Andrew Tate. So anyway, and she's like,
- 41:42well, I used on my products and got ready, I did my makeup.
- 41:44I don't know. Two hundred bucks and everyone's clown in this chick and
- 41:49clown world shared it. And I agree with nineteen nine percent of what clown
- 41:52world say. I think I follow them, they follow me. We share
- 41:55each other's stuff. But I actually don't think that woman did anything wrong.
- 42:00I don't think that woman said anything wrong. She's not grossly obese, she's
- 42:04not overtly ugly, she's not overtly unattractive. She seems like a relatively attractive
- 42:09woman. She doesn't seem outlandish or insane or wild in her ways. She's
- 42:15dressed very nice. Yeah, go ahead, My god, this guy's got
- 42:21minimal standards. This yeah, this is this is really sad. I'm just
- 42:27saying she doesn't she doesn't seem crazy. Yeah, she just asked for,
- 42:32like, you know, the average guy to shell out two hundred bucks.
- 42:37Of course, like these guys will scoff at that. I get it.
- 42:42I need I bow down to how incredibly alpha rich you are. But guess
- 42:46what if that's the only kind of man you give a shit about, you
- 42:51actually don't give a shit about men, So you know, because the average
- 42:54man is dealing with this shit economy that women voted for. Now those same
- 43:00fucking women, well he's too young to really know, like he I don't
- 43:04think they're married. So like that's another thing too, is that you know,
- 43:07they probably just want to look anyway. Look all, I'm gonna let
- 43:12this guy finish. But these people strike me as really fake. And I've
- 43:16always believed that, and so people will tell me, oh, you're you
- 43:21know, you're caping for these guys and you're big fans of these guys.
- 43:25Not true. I never said that. All I ever said was that I
- 43:30think that they were treated unfairly by the media. The media and the feminists
- 43:34are the real enemy, and I think that if they're treated unfairly, we
- 43:37should defend them because we are just as likely to be treated the same way.
- 43:43That all being said, these guys are phonies, I mean that,
- 43:45that's what I think. That that you can just see. But let's play
- 43:50more of the video and you'll see what I mean. So a lot of
- 43:52time into her preparation. You know, it's not so much about two hundred
- 43:57dollars being a set figure. But let me tell you something, women deserve
- 44:00of effort when you take them on dates and when you take women places.
- 44:02They do deserve effort. Because as much as I look amazing tonight in my
- 44:09savile row tailored suit, with my Rolex watch on, my alligator shoes,
- 44:15my thinning hair but still average average hair, give myself average for hairs.
- 44:22As good as I look, it took me about four minutes from getting out
- 44:25of the shower to get ready. I'm pausing it there for the banana.
- 44:31This is cringe. Any man who says I look great, that's a cartoon
- 44:37character. That's like they like guys like guys that are confident in there whoever
- 44:43they are. They don't have to say this, like, you know what
- 44:45I mean. This is not alpha behavior. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
- 44:50it's not That's just what I think. And I've been saying this for a
- 44:52very long time because I've come across other these Manisphere red peel guys like the
- 44:59like the you know, Ant Johnson types and the fucking uh fuck what was
- 45:02his name that I had on the show, like a couple of years ago,
- 45:06and he refused to come back on because he said, oh, well,
- 45:07Brian's fat, so I'm not going to go back on the show anymore.
- 45:10And then he got caught out Jack Murphy. Right, these guys are
- 45:15all phony. I'm sorry, it's all a show. Right. They also
- 45:19have a wall too, Yeah, they also have a wall. And the
- 45:24go ahead the Tate brothers. I guarantee it, like five years from now
- 45:30we won't see anything of them. They're selling something, That's what it is.
- 45:34This is what happens each of these guys. They get into their forties,
- 45:37they hit a wall. Nobody pays attention to them anymore because they really
- 45:42don't have anything of substance to say. Basically, what she's he said,
- 45:45is that this woman is attractive, therefore she can command whatever price she wants.
- 45:50Well, yes, yeah, she's a welcome to price herself. However,
- 45:54she likes Jesus, she's not even like, I don't even want to
- 45:58say she is a hoe. I don't even say that she is a problem.
- 46:05She is a scab. Yeah, when it comes like she's not she's
- 46:08undercutting the professional ladies. She's a scab. She's like it's in Fine,
- 46:15that's what she is. She's selling a look, that's what she has.
- 46:19She's not relationship material. And the and the way that she presents herself,
- 46:27the way that she's approaching all of this, Like like Pearl said, she
- 46:31expects you to put out the money. What happens when you know, ten
- 46:36years down the right road when she doesn't, she's she's no longer willing to
- 46:42tolerate you, and you're in family court. Yeah, it's like these individuals
- 46:47don't live in a reality the average person. They don't what I mean,
- 46:52they know, they don't, That's what I'm saying. They're so they're full.
- 46:54They're really disconnected from the average man. And this is the problem because
- 46:59they're like, if you want to be successful, you have to be like
- 47:02me. And it's like, I get it, you're selling something, but
- 47:07the average guy, first of all, should not have to do that,
- 47:10because an average woman should like, you know, be okay with that because
- 47:15the truth is most men, the overwhelming majority of men, are gonna be
- 47:21average. That's just the reality. So this is to like claim that you
- 47:24know, well, you just need to step up, you know, like
- 47:27this is in a video game. People can't just get good like life is
- 47:30something more. And also I will say this too women, this woman needs
- 47:37like an hour to get ready. Apparently, right, if you need an
- 47:40hour to get ready, you probably don't look that great when you're not ready
- 47:45for one or at least it's a few points down. But the other thing,
- 47:47too, is if a man can get dressed in like a couple minutes.
- 47:52But that's not what women are looking at. They're looking at the culmination
- 47:57of his entire life until the point they met him, to see where he
- 48:00stands in terms of his status and his potential in his future and his assets.
- 48:08And that's not something that you prepare right before you go out. That's
- 48:14something that you have to have well in advance. So this is like again,
- 48:19it's ridiculous, Like if these guys lose everything, they'll probably have a
- 48:24plan in place to try to get it back, but that they will see
- 48:29how quickly, you know, your status goes from like the top one percent
- 48:35down to the everybody else, which is basically invisible. When you become an
- 48:38average man, you become invisible to women. You don't even have to be
- 48:43below average. If you're homeless, they're more likely to notice you. Like
- 48:47at least to avoid you on the street, you know. But if you're
- 48:51like an average guy that has like, you know, fifty grand a year
- 48:54or something, you're going to be ignored by the average woman, a model
- 49:00women. So it's it's not it's kind of a stupid thing to say,
- 49:04Like I'm almost thinking, did you just say that so that you can like
- 49:07sound cool, you can like give it to the to the rational, like
- 49:12men that like have you know, an idea of what their odds are,
- 49:15and they're looking at the field and they're like, I want to meet someone,
- 49:17I want to get married, I want to start a family, you
- 49:20know what most men want. And you're saying, well, you're you're clearly
- 49:23like you're you're not good enough for this woman who has nothing to offer about
- 49:30her presence. Ye, ridiculous, it is, and this is this is
- 49:38what our society has in terms of relationship gurus. Well, again, I
- 49:46think about it. I know, I know, I know it's silly,
- 49:50but I think that they are kind of I don't know. I'm with til
- 49:54Deer. TiAl Deer says that they're artificially propped up. I am inclined to
- 49:59agree. I don't think it's real I think there are better guys out there
- 50:01doing better work that get less attention, they get less exposure. So that's
- 50:09what I think. That's my gut. I could be wrong, but I
- 50:13don't think I am, because I don't think that people want like They're not
- 50:19drawn to the practical, They're drawn to the spectacle. So this is a
- 50:24spectacle, all right. But anyway, let's play some more hair jail shirt,
- 50:29jacket, pants, shoes, watch done. That's it. You know,
- 50:34men should always pay for dates one, never fifty to fifty because the
- 50:38man is always the one asking the woman out. You, as a young
- 50:42man going on a date, are trying to get a woman, usually to
- 50:45give up the most sacred thing that she has. Who if you're going out
- 50:51to date on a woman, what, well fuck okay, what's her most
- 50:55sacred thing? Perfect? Jj I? I mean I don't know. This
- 51:05is like, this is this is like you know, you know what It's
- 51:08really bizarre for me? Is I? I am? I must be a
- 51:12total alien because once a man says something like that, he basically looks like
- 51:19a vogon to me, you know, the vogons from the from Futurama.
- 51:25No no, no, no, okay, okay, okay. Vogan poetry
- 51:32Hitchecker's Guide to the Galaxy. Oh yeah right. The third worst poem the
- 51:38bureaucratic the of bureaucratic aliens like used to imagine you're looking at this guy and
- 51:45you see a vogan. I should get you a picture of a vogan.
- 51:49I know what they look like basically because I saw the movie, but it
- 51:52was a while ago. Well what, okay, so they just what you're
- 51:55saying is that you don't get what this guy is saying because it doesn't reflect
- 52:00your experience. No. It actually when he says that, it lowers how
- 52:05attractive he is. And I'm a weird kid. I'm a weirdo and I'm
- 52:09mid I'll be that. But it's like this dude, the oh, her
- 52:15most sacred thing, Okay, well, thank you? Uh I don't.
- 52:21I don't want to be around a man who thinks that thanks like, uh,
- 52:25I don't her most sacred thing, her most valuable thing is her JJ
- 52:32really yeah, not what she does with it at least, you know?
- 52:37Yeah no, no, well again, you know, yeah, it exists,
- 52:40there's there is really there's not. This isn't. This isn't this looks
- 52:45like an ocean, but it's actually a puddle. It's not deep, it's
- 52:49not that deep, but it has a mass appeal. People think they're going
- 52:54to come to the shore and get all of their canteens filled with water,
- 52:59But there is isn't much there in reality. And that and I always knew
- 53:02that. I always knew that. But on principle, I will stick up
- 53:07for people who are treated unfairly. So what was that. I'm just like,
- 53:13I what's gonna happen to him? When you know, I mean,
- 53:16the probability is is that he will eventually experience some form of sexual dysfunction.
- 53:22Well, he won't tell. He won't tell anyone, No, he won't.
- 53:25He probably already does. He doesn't tell. Yeah, we don't.
- 53:28What is the most sacred thing? What is the most sacred thing about women?
- 53:32Now? You know at that point in time. Well, what I'm
- 53:36saying that's another thing too, is that he's acting like women are the way
- 53:39they were I don't know, like hundreds of years ago, like in fucking
- 53:44Victorian England, Like they're like it's it's a different landscape, man, Yeah,
- 53:49lot women are are the woman in that video not not whatever you have
- 53:53in your mind about what women are like, Like, it's not very sacred
- 53:57if it's worth two hundred bucks. Friend, Yes, well she probably doesn't
- 54:01even put out for two hundred. That's probably five hundred. I mean,
- 54:05I don't know. But even still, like, it's not very sacred if
- 54:08it has a price tag. Yes, if it's not, okay. I
- 54:14I am a person who gives it up for another person who I feel a
- 54:20connection to, who I like like, and I feel like we can have
- 54:24a future together and we can build a life together. That's what makes it
- 54:29sacred. Not a two hundred bucks for the first day and you're not gonna
- 54:34get anything yet. I might be the second date if it's a if you
- 54:37put another five hundred dollars down, maybe the third date if I'm really feeling
- 54:40it. You know that kind of shit is Can I put that pussy layaway?
- 54:45Yeah? Do you have any Do you take any down payments? Yeah?
- 54:51Can I do like a payment plan? You want to do a credit
- 54:53plans? Yeah, I'll just run your credit check here, looks like you
- 55:00can. What the hell? What's sacred about that? Okay? The only
- 55:05thing, the only thing that makes it sacred is if she's a woman who
- 55:09sees it in terms of bonding with another human being. Yeah, all right,
- 55:14and that that isn't that doesn't come with a financial cost. That comes
- 55:19with the cost of compatibility. M hm, you know, wanting to to
- 55:28take have that within a relationship. I'm not describing this well, but it
- 55:31does. It's not It doesn't have a price tag, and it can't have
- 55:35a price tag. It's something that you give someone that you care about and
- 55:42that you feel like you can resonate with, right, that's what makes it
- 55:46sacred. I don't know what the hell he's on, but the instant herb
- 55:51she starts talking about two hundred bucks, that's bullshit. She doesn't think it's
- 55:55sacred. She considers it to be a commodity. Well, yeah, that
- 56:00she considers her presence a commodity that men have to shell out for. And
- 56:06she's already surely knows what her you know, her price tag is and it's
- 56:09only if she's feeling nice at the time. You know. I can't stand
- 56:15it when guys do this, when they like they it's like they don't know
- 56:22how to just be humble and like understand that there are I don't know,
- 56:29like there that their situation could be gone tomorrow and and that other men like
- 56:36are just they're either too busy or they're too abused or broken or whatever to
- 56:42like just you know, I mean, I hate saying the bootstraps thing,
- 56:46but like, you know, that's I just I don't like it when guys
- 56:50do that because they're it's like he's not. It's like virtue signaling, That's
- 56:53what it is. It's virtue signaling to men. You know, do this
- 56:59for when I do it, look at my rolex, it's so like it's
- 57:04so shallow. It's just so shallow. Anyway, I've always felt this way
- 57:08about a lot of the guys the manosphere. But again, you know,
- 57:14I'm just I'm just putting out there. Any At some point you got to
- 57:16wonder, Okay, you realize that life really likes to fuck with you,
- 57:21right? What happens when one of you gets cancer? What happens when one
- 57:23of you has to deal with a long term chronic illness, What happens when
- 57:28one of you, you know, loses a job? What happens then?
- 57:34Yeah, I don't know, life is tough enough, and you're right,
- 57:37it's like this, and you know what it is, it's self delusion.
- 57:42Yeah, Well, it's a lack of self it's a lack of authenticity.
- 57:45I like authenticity in people. It's the same self delusion you see with women
- 57:51who are in their late twenties. Oh, this will never change. My
- 57:54situation will never change. I'm never going to be facing anything like having to
- 58:00make a decision because I'm rapidly dwindling in the meat market value. This guy
- 58:06is the same. He's deluded about himself, and he's deluded about how long
- 58:10he's gonna last in this position, even after all of the crap with the
- 58:15Romanian mob, you know, and like you said, he doesn't. I
- 58:20don't know why any guy, any average guy, listens to men like this
- 58:23when it comes to relationship advice, because you're not gonna got anywhere with it.
- 58:29Basically, the only thing he can advise you to be is to be
- 58:32super good looking tall. I assume he's tall, have a good have a
- 58:37really expensive car, like a couple million dollar car, and lots of money.
- 58:42There you go, then he'll be success. Like, how is the
- 58:45average guy? How does that benefit the average guy? I mean, I
- 58:49don't know if we if we can benefit the average guy, because at this
- 58:52point, the damage is so severe with all of these narratives of how men
- 58:58are toxic, how they're worthless in relationships, you know, how they're valueless,
- 59:04how we don't need them, how the future is female. I mean,
- 59:07we've so undercut the value of men in our society. It's really difficult
- 59:10to know how to bring that kind of male masculine mystique back to the average
- 59:16men, because really that's what men had in the past. It's like it
- 59:22was like a value that you know, it was not I don't want to
- 59:27say a lower bar, but they could actually get to it, you know
- 59:31what I mean. And a rich, powerful man with lots of resources could
- 59:39never be destroyed by the system. They're immune so good, and you know
- 59:51what what what it was. This is the one thing that guys really struggle
- 59:59with, honesty, being honest to women in particular, They really struggle with
- 1:00:09it. Honest about their vulnerabilities, honest about what they see in reality,
- 1:00:15you know, honest about themselves. Yeah, the honesty is the most valuable
- 1:00:21commodity. Commodity, it's not really a commodity. It's the most sacred thing.
- 1:00:24It's the only thing worth having in reality. Ultimately, I mean,
- 1:00:30well, you know, of course, it's good to be able to have
- 1:00:34shelter and food, don't get me wrong. But honesty is you know,
- 1:00:40that is what matters. And that's why I like Pearl the very least.
- 1:00:46She's honest and she you know, I like that about her. She's honest.
- 1:00:52I don't always agree, but she seems like an honest person. Okay,
- 1:00:57let's keep going, all right, Let's keep going. And no matter
- 1:01:00how honest you are, you canna be a good Christian man. In which
- 1:01:04case you're looking for more. You want her hand in marriage. Eventually you
- 1:01:07want her to bear your children. That's what a first day is is an
- 1:01:10interview for the most important thing a woman could possibly give you. She's interviewing
- 1:01:15you, and you have asked for the opportunity to think. No, no,
- 1:01:23what do you But aren't you interviewing her as wex? You don't?
- 1:01:28Well, you're women are the gatekeepers of sex, but men are the gatekeepers
- 1:01:32to a commitment. So men have to be the gatekeepers, so they have
- 1:01:37to be discerning and wondering. If a woman is ultra materialistic and just wants
- 1:01:43to take advantage of what you have to offer, that is a red flag.
- 1:01:46So no, I don't think so. I think that that feminists created
- 1:01:52the world where, you know, supposedly the world where women go Dutch,
- 1:01:55so they should go Dutch. In fact, do you remember the do you
- 1:02:00remember the video, Allison? This is related of the woman who started recording
- 1:02:07because her date, and I think it was a first date, took her
- 1:02:12to cheesecake factory. You remember the cheesecake factory date, Alison? Do you
- 1:02:16remember that? It was recent? Yes? Yes? And she was appalled,
- 1:02:23appalled that he would take her to cheesecake factory. And his reaction was
- 1:02:28just like, well, whatever, I like cheesecake factory. Are you gonna
- 1:02:32leave? And it doesn't like these women don't have to be like he's basically
- 1:02:38measuring their entitlement based on their looks. So he's like, well, she's
- 1:02:42attractive enough to make these demands. No, I don't think so. I
- 1:02:45don't think so, like you should be able to do whatever with her.
- 1:02:50We're gonna go for a walk in the park and we're gonna talk about,
- 1:02:52like, you know, what our interests are, what our goals are,
- 1:02:57what our values are, and then based on that we will go forward.
- 1:03:01There's nothing wrong with that, cause I mean, I mean, you know,
- 1:03:07fuck if I, like took a woman to the I like the cheesecake
- 1:03:10factory. If I took a woman to the cheesecake factory she got peed,
- 1:03:15I'd be like, you need to get out of the car and call yourself
- 1:03:17an uber. I'm not even gonna drive your ass home. Figure out how
- 1:03:21you're gonna get home because I'm not dating people like that. You are big
- 1:03:23money talk, then you can get your ass home on your own, call
- 1:03:27your friend whatever, it's over like that. I'm not doing that. So
- 1:03:30yeah, I mean you just can't. Can you just not see the absolute
- 1:03:36state of women today? I mean, can you not see what we're dealing
- 1:03:40with here. It's not that men aren't fucking getting good or stepping up.
- 1:03:45Remember the mess we're in. Women voted for it mostly, So like women
- 1:03:52are creating the problems. They're taking men's resources through taxation, and they're expecting
- 1:03:57men to shell out whatever they have left for their company. Yeah, it's
- 1:04:04untenable, absolutely all right, I got a superchow, thank you. Richard
- 1:04:11Bierre gives us a superchow and it's for five dollars, and he says,
- 1:04:15remember that interview where the woman was requiring that her potential date provide bank account
- 1:04:19information, and the interviewer was agreeing with her. Yes, I remember that
- 1:04:27because they wanted to be able to prove how much he makes. So this
- 1:04:30isn't like, these aren't standards that men created, you know. These are
- 1:04:38standards that women created. And I don't know where they got it from.
- 1:04:41I think it's other women talking to them or something, or maybe maybe it's
- 1:04:45men like this that are basically saying, well, I do these are the
- 1:04:49things I do for my women, and these women see that and said,
- 1:04:53well, I want men to do that for me, and then they just
- 1:04:55expect that of all men because women do look at the apex, right,
- 1:04:59they look at the guys at the top, and then they're like, that's
- 1:05:01what I want. And so they won't even give a man a time of
- 1:05:04day if he's not matching that or exceeding that. That's why they have absolutely
- 1:05:09you know what else? Can I tell you something? I'm sorry, I
- 1:05:12feel like I'm hijacking this. Okay. I came across this really funny theory
- 1:05:16and I want to throw it at you related to the things that women expect.
- 1:05:21Okay, so hear me out. Let me put the frog back on
- 1:05:25the screen. Just just let me just let me reiterate. I am a
- 1:05:29very strange I know you are an unusual bird. So when women are asked
- 1:05:38about the height of men, what they want in a man's height, what
- 1:05:43they want in a man's bank account, what they want you know, these
- 1:05:45things. The theory is women don't understand numbers, and so they just go
- 1:05:53for really high numbers. So if a man, so if a woman hears
- 1:06:00three hundred thousand, like a woman says, I want a man that makes
- 1:06:02three hundred thousand dollars a year, and a man might make seventy thousand,
- 1:06:09and that's still really good, okay, And a woman will if he if
- 1:06:13he doesn't tell her he's making seventy thousand, then she'll just be like,
- 1:06:17oh, that sounds like like you know, he just I got this covered,
- 1:06:20don't worry about it. She'd just accept it. Like if a man
- 1:06:24is like five ten but he's taller than her, she'll just be like,
- 1:06:27that's a six foot tall man. Like they don't they don't understand, they
- 1:06:30don't understand height, and they don't understand money. That I mean, that's
- 1:06:34a it's a theory. I don't know, Like I don't know, I
- 1:06:36think there could be something to it, maybe like these you know, basic
- 1:06:41women are like they're not like they're not women out the calculators, right,
- 1:06:46what what we're gonna say, Well, I mean, I guess it does
- 1:06:53sort of. One thing that sort of speaks to is the whole thing about
- 1:06:57penis size. It's like they're looking, yeah, well that could all will
- 1:07:00be a thing like they look they atually yeah, I mean even seven.
- 1:07:05But like the a woman looks at her girlfriend's man and let's say she doesn't
- 1:07:13have a man, and her girlfriend as a man and her and her girlfriend's
- 1:07:15man is taller than her and make some money, he has like a nice
- 1:07:18car or whatever, but not he's not like crazy millionaire or anything like that.
- 1:07:23She will Basically, what women do is a they just want to match
- 1:07:27or exceed what their girlfriends have and it and that's why they they they go
- 1:07:30for these big numbers, but it's not because they're actually paying attention like guys,
- 1:07:35like men, we're we're kind of literal and maybe you're more like that
- 1:07:40than the average woman. So when we hear six feet, we're like standing
- 1:07:44next to the to the ruler to look at what our height is but the
- 1:07:46truth is, as long as you're taller than her, it doesn't matter,
- 1:07:53right, And I think I think that it's because when women are talking about
- 1:07:58the kind of men they want, they're not really looking at the men.
- 1:08:00They're looking at their girlfriend's men, and they're kind of competing with her.
- 1:08:05That's kind of a theory that I've been bouncing around in my head a little
- 1:08:09bit, because I wonder, like, do women actually walk around with a
- 1:08:13tape measure to see how tall a man is or how big his dick is?
- 1:08:16I don't think so, you know, and and I think they're Honestly,
- 1:08:21I think you might be right, And I think there's a lot of
- 1:08:24this kind of competition. They may not really know what the hell they're asking
- 1:08:29for, and it's just really about competing with other women. I think that
- 1:08:31that's underrated how much this is really about competing with other women, Which means
- 1:08:36that there is absolutely no way for men to change anything or affect anything if
- 1:08:43it's if it's almost exclusively about women's competition with each other, like you can't
- 1:08:47think so yeah, if women are in a situation. This is something I
- 1:08:51mentioned on one of the podcasts, that's that Pearl's putting out on one of
- 1:08:56her wasn't with Pearl, but was with her producer. I mentioned this idea
- 1:09:02that women would reject an offer in which they get a hundred bucks, but
- 1:09:08let's say another woman gets two hundred in favor of an offer in which they
- 1:09:13get fifty bucks but the other woman gets zero. That women would do that
- 1:09:18would suggest that that might have a that might have some influence on what's going
- 1:09:25on with the top ten percent with men. So the top ten percent of
- 1:09:30men can go one tender and basically have almost any woman they want, right
- 1:09:34and those women may rather share this man, well, if they're mid they
- 1:09:41would rather share this man with a bunch of other mid women or mid up
- 1:09:45upper women than allow him to settle down with a more attractive woman just out
- 1:09:53of spite. And I think it was the one who talked about reclaiming you're
- 1:10:01becoming a king something. He sort of pushed back on that notion. But
- 1:10:05I think that it is really something that we people don't really think about,
- 1:10:11is how much competition drives this and how little control men would actually have over
- 1:10:15it, Because you think about it, if it's competition, every woman wants
- 1:10:19a top ten percent man or whatever that means. Yeah, I guarantee if
- 1:10:25you judge these men by their willingness to be honest, they wouldn't be in
- 1:10:28the top ten. But regardless, everybody wants. Every woman wants a top
- 1:10:32ten percent man. And let's say the top ten percent men, they is
- 1:10:38top ten percent because he's got a whole bunch of other women after them,
- 1:10:42all right, Oh yeah, those are the men that women want. If
- 1:10:45there are women who are attracted to men that it has a snowball effect where
- 1:10:50other women become attracted with the same men because they're like, well, they're
- 1:10:54into this guy, so there must be something about this guy, and then
- 1:10:57they become interested. It's exactly how I think. That's how the hair's aer
- 1:11:02yeah, basically. And also this idea, I think that these women don't
- 1:11:05want to share this man with like a high status woman. They'd rather split
- 1:11:11him in and prevent that high status woman from getting her two hundred bucks.
- 1:11:15So they'd rather all have fifty bucks in order to get that high to have
- 1:11:19that high status woman get zero is what I'm getting at. But if they
- 1:11:25all want the top ten percent, and let's say by there's a genie and
- 1:11:30all the collective men say, Genie, make us all in the top equal
- 1:11:34to the men who are currently in the top ten percent. Well, what
- 1:11:38happens if women then take the top ten percent of those men? Yeah right,
- 1:11:42that's a combination of there's no way you can resolve that kind of hypergamy
- 1:11:47that women literally don't. It doesn't matter what the top ten percent constitutes.
- 1:11:53They just want men in the top ten percent period. Okay, it doesn't
- 1:11:57matter. It's always just the top ten percent. The top ten percent of
- 1:12:01women are men who command the most female attention. All right, If that's
- 1:12:05what it is, there's nothing men can do could change that. It's only
- 1:12:10something that can be changed by holding women accountable for their jealousy, for their
- 1:12:15competition with each other, for their intersectional intersectional sabotage. Okay, and until
- 1:12:23we do, that's not going to be solved. And like Jordan Peterson's and
- 1:12:28the Andrew Tates of the world can say anything they like about how much men
- 1:12:31need to bend over backwards or live up to the standards of women, you
- 1:12:35can't. You're asking men to do something impossible, to all be in the
- 1:12:42top ten percent. Uh, that's impossible. Men cannot all be in the
- 1:12:46top ten percent. They cannot because by definition, the top ten percent excludes
- 1:12:51ninety percent of them exactly. I actually think that hypergamy, especially today,
- 1:12:59is a much bigger obstacle than in fact hypergamy as a concept. Is they
- 1:13:09really emphasize this idea that women want the top whatever amount of men, or
- 1:13:14that women's standards should be this high. And that's okay, But what it's
- 1:13:18refusing to acknowledge what's really driving it, which is women's competition with each other.
- 1:13:26Right Like, women don't want to feel like they're losing out relative to
- 1:13:30and even more like, if you're a midwoman who manages to have sex with
- 1:13:34like a top tier man, you're not gonna want to feel like you lose
- 1:13:39out to a top tier woman. You're gonna do everything you can to sabotage
- 1:13:44that. If you're if you are in a situation where your vanity and you're
- 1:13:48jealousy and your envy are out of control, where you're not holding yourself to
- 1:13:55any kind of moral or ethical standard. Right yeah, and pe like this
- 1:14:00this aspect of the conversation, I don't think people want to have it like
- 1:14:02that. This is driven by intersectional that is between women. Competition, competition
- 1:14:11between women like their relationships, you know. And this is a little bit
- 1:14:15of an aside. Perhaps you will enjoy it because I know that you also
- 1:14:18enjoy storytelling, as do I. But recently I was watching I've been watching
- 1:14:25a lot of Agatha Christie movies from various eras, and recently I watched a
- 1:14:30movie called Evil under the Sun, right, And I won't give any spoilers,
- 1:14:38but I will say this. The women in that movie, and I
- 1:14:42think it came out maybe in the early eighties, but it had sort of
- 1:14:46an They deliberately gave it, I think, an older feel, and the
- 1:14:50women in that movie could command a room. And you watched that movie and
- 1:14:57they were the most interesting characters in it because you were just waiting to see
- 1:15:01what came out of their mouths. Right. It wasn't necessarily that they were
- 1:15:06throwing punches and throwing laser beams from their eyes or any shit like that.
- 1:15:11You were just fascinated by the next witty, cutting county thing they were going
- 1:15:15to say. Yeah. I mean, it was like the old lady from
- 1:15:20Downton Abbey is You're always waiting to see what she was gonna say. Yeah,
- 1:15:25or do you know or what scheme? But it and you can use
- 1:15:30a more heroic example, which would be the woman in His Girl Friday,
- 1:15:33and she was just really clever, really really clever on the ball, like
- 1:15:40quips and it was you just I mean, and these actresses really just you
- 1:15:44know, they commanded a room and they did not look like victims at all.
- 1:15:48They didn't present as victims, and they were really fascinating characters. That's
- 1:15:53older film. And then we watched what was it called Ordeal by Innocence which
- 1:16:02was made in the twenty eighteen. Every woman in it except for one was
- 1:16:10interchangeable mess of victimhood, like they were boring. And it's because in Hollywood
- 1:16:18now they cannot they like remember the snow white thing. They got rid of
- 1:16:26the jealousy, like the competition be between the two female characters. Yeah,
- 1:16:30well you can't depict that. The only way that you can create tension is
- 1:16:35through women's victimization by men. So you get rid of all of those those
- 1:16:43these commanding like socially present like these these women you come into a room and
- 1:16:47you're like on pins and Neil, was she gonna say next? What caddy
- 1:16:51thing? Is she gonna and what caddy, you know, like and and
- 1:16:55I know that's a little bit like drama, but it's still like they had
- 1:16:58really strong, forceful persons. And it was also a depiction of the negatives
- 1:17:03of jealousy and competition between women. Yeah, it's something that was kind of
- 1:17:09normal. We used to do that all the time. It was like cautionary
- 1:17:12thing, right. It was a cautionary because it was cautionary and because you
- 1:17:16know, they there was negatives to what they were doing. It was interesting,
- 1:17:21you know what I mean, Like there were there what they said mattered,
- 1:17:27you know, That's why you wanted to hear it. That's why you
- 1:17:29were excited by their you know the coming on most stories are all stories revolve
- 1:17:34around their stakes, right, And if when a woman is unseene and you
- 1:17:39know that there's going to be no stakes, like none of her actions are
- 1:17:43going to matter because she's a victim, you're not interested and she's not a
- 1:17:46commanding presence. But so what. But the upshot of all of this is
- 1:17:53we don't look at women's jealousies, women's intersectional competition, how women stab each
- 1:18:01other in the back, how women compete. We don't look at that anymore.
- 1:18:04We don't examine it. We don't present it in our media to the
- 1:18:09same degree as we did, and we're really honest about it. In the
- 1:18:11past, it just has disappeared and we don't and it's not even part of
- 1:18:16this discussion of what's going wrong in the dating sphere. And I think there's
- 1:18:21two reasons. One because as a society we've decided that see like we can,
- 1:18:28we can see women's tits, but we cannot see their agency. We
- 1:18:32cannot see that their actions have consequences. And that's what it means. Agency
- 1:18:36doesn't mean, oh, you can do anything. It means that when you
- 1:18:40do something, it matters. Right. We can't look at that. As
- 1:18:45a society, we are completely like that. That is that is that is
- 1:18:48indecent. It is indecent to see women's agency, to see the consequences of
- 1:18:55women's actions, and to recognize the consequences of women's actions, to recognize that
- 1:18:59the dating landscape now is a result of unchecked female intersectional competition, that men
- 1:19:06can do fuck and all to change. Men can't live up to it.
- 1:19:13They can't like they can't they all men cannot be in the top ten percent
- 1:19:17by definition, so they cannot change this. They can't move this needle.
- 1:19:24The only way it's gonna move is if women start to recognize and control their
- 1:19:31competition with each other and that that that their competition with each other is destroying
- 1:19:36them. And it's like, we can't recognize this is another big thing.
- 1:19:40We can't recognize what is the Where is the majority of bullying towards women online
- 1:19:45coming from other women? See that? And how is men? How are
- 1:19:50men gonna change that? Men keep getting slapped, get blamed and slapped with
- 1:19:58more and more like controls and suspicion because we won't recognize that actually the biggest
- 1:20:04bullies online are women. We won't recognize that actually women's intersectional competition is causing
- 1:20:12dating to spiral into going to a negative spiral of insanity. You know,
- 1:20:18she might say two hundred bucks because her friend said, well, I'll only
- 1:20:23accept one hundred and fifty bucks. Yeah, it's possible, okay, And
- 1:20:30to me that with your numbers, You're right, they may not even really
- 1:20:32understand those numbers in real terms, in terms of their lives. Yes,
- 1:20:36it's the competition exactly. They're throwing around competition, competition numbers. So I
- 1:20:42guess a little bit of a white pill, the six sixty sixth thing.
- 1:20:45Just you know, just be in the right place, surrounded by the right,
- 1:20:50Get the right kind wing, get the wingman that's shorter than you are,
- 1:20:54that doesn't need women. Maybe you'll do better. You're gay, you're
- 1:20:59gay men winging man. Yeah you gay, short king wing man to help
- 1:21:03you out. And yeah. But like one good video on this was some
- 1:21:10woman was dealing with the penis size thing and she was showing on on like
- 1:21:15a ruler the sizes, and it's like when you look at that, and
- 1:21:21and I think this is something women really needed to know with the six six
- 1:21:24sixes. Yeah, this is this is what you're actually asking for. And
- 1:21:28it's ridiculous. Nobody needs eight inches, like nobody. I mean again,
- 1:21:34they don't even know like that. They're like, I mean that's a I
- 1:21:39don't want to retread old science. But it doesn't matter that much. So
- 1:21:44again it just comes back to like, oh, well, you know,
- 1:21:47her man is is this big, so I need a man that's bigger just
- 1:21:50because I want to be better than her. And it's it's irrelevant, like
- 1:21:55and it's and obviously it's it holds men to a ridiculous standard. Like,
- 1:22:00ye, bro, it's not even like men aren't going around asking how deep
- 1:22:03the well goes with women? Right, they don't care, like this is
- 1:22:08a thing that only women do. This is like unique. All right,
- 1:22:12anyway, let's play some more of this because I want to get to a
- 1:22:14pearl's response. Two hundred dollars is too much, and that's obscene and insane
- 1:22:19for a women to want to go out on a date where maybe the dinner's
- 1:22:23kind of nice, she has a few glasses of wine after the three h
- 1:22:27Let me tell you something, right, dude, let me let me give
- 1:22:30men some advice. Two hundred dollars maybe, okay, for your first year
- 1:22:33anniversary. Yeah, Like two hundred dollars should be what you give a woman
- 1:22:40who has demonstrated commitment to a relationship, and not even two hundred dollars.
- 1:22:45That should be conceived of as you both get to enjoy something together for two
- 1:22:50hundred bucks, right, Not on the first fucking date. In the first
- 1:22:55fucking date, she should come and clean your fucking grouding. Mm hmm,
- 1:23:00I'm just kidding. She should go. She should be cleaning your the grouting
- 1:23:03and your like front foyer. All right, let's keep going, Oh,
- 1:23:10I think it would be nice. Yeah, it'd be nice. She's put
- 1:23:12in getting ready, shaving her legs, all the shit that women do.
- 1:23:16I want to point out a couple, but they do it anyways though,
- 1:23:19Like women do this anyway, Like what was her first thing? Oh,
- 1:23:25I'm doing it for myself. Well, if you're doing it for your wealth,
- 1:23:28you're not doing it for him, so shut up. Uah, So
- 1:23:30why are you making this part of the fucking final final cost, Like you're
- 1:23:34including it in the in your you know, in your overhead, you know,
- 1:23:39for your markup. But like men, you're doing it for yourself,
- 1:23:42so it doesn't matter, all right. A couple of things I've noticed with
- 1:23:45the Tape Brothers. A lot of times they'll give speeches and they're still a
- 1:23:49bit guinocentric. So what is ginos No, they're very ginocentric, like very
- 1:23:54ginocentric, because they're measuring a man's worth by how much he does to attract
- 1:24:01a woman, which is the problem with the whole manisphere Pua. Thing is
- 1:24:09like they measure their value as men based on how successful they are with women,
- 1:24:15which means women ultimately decide their worth and men who are either not interested
- 1:24:21like migtaw or can't measure up like in cells or just like average guys.
- 1:24:29Those guys are shamed by these men, and this is not something that is
- 1:24:33helpful for anyone. So they're very gynocentric. I've been saying this about the
- 1:24:39PUAs and the Manisphere guys for a while because then you know what too,
- 1:24:43Alison know if you notice this, But they these guys, they always end
- 1:24:46up fighting with each other always, they always have falling outs, and then
- 1:24:51they talk shit behind each other's back. They turn into teenage girls. And
- 1:24:56I'm I know that it sounds like I'm talking big from over here, but
- 1:24:59I just don't engage in that. It's childish. And I see it all
- 1:25:02the time. It's like, you know, so and so is flexing on
- 1:25:06me because he's got Jim pictures with his girl, and I'm gonna show him
- 1:25:11Jim pictures. It's pathetic. It's pathetic. It's like, you're if you're
- 1:25:18doing well, I don't want to know. I don't know you. I
- 1:25:23don't care about your future. I don't I don't care. But you know,
- 1:25:28like, don't engage in this really feminine behavior. That's what it is.
- 1:25:32It's feminine. Any man that has to tell you his alpha is not.
- 1:25:38And I've been saying this forever. You either you either act how you're
- 1:25:42gonna act, or you don't. Don't tell. Don't give me the news,
- 1:25:46because I don't care. The fact that you have to give me the
- 1:25:48news says everything I need to know anyway. And I just see it all
- 1:25:51the time, like they're constantly in fighting, constantly. So yeah, you
- 1:25:58know, be glad that Anthony Johnson said that, you know, there shouldn't
- 1:26:02be any women at their men's conference, like the twenty one Studios Redman Group
- 1:26:06or whatever it is that stay around. No, well I think that it
- 1:26:10is. I don't know. I don't I don't follow it, but but
- 1:26:12I do I do know that. Like they said, you they had Janison
- 1:26:17though, they were like, well, we're gonna have Janison. It was
- 1:26:20like, oh, but but Janis is a woman, though, why why
- 1:26:24would you want a woman owe? Because she knows what she's talking about,
- 1:26:28because she's qualified, because she knows more about the history of feminism than you
- 1:26:32guys all combined, and it's an important discussion to have. That's why you
- 1:26:39had Janis on, and you knew that, Like they tried to get pulled
- 1:26:44Janison. I think that. No, no, they they because we were
- 1:26:48doing our ICMI twenty nineteen. That's what it started. That's what started.
- 1:26:51Remember we were sitting up ICMI in twenty nineteen and the Anthony Johnson beach whatever
- 1:27:00his name is, he was planning out his twenty one convention. Remember that
- 1:27:06they did a talk I think it was with Piers Morgan or something, and
- 1:27:10it was like Janice and Anthony Johnson and Janis was going to be a guest.
- 1:27:14They got her to come on after our ICMI I think, But but
- 1:27:19I don't know if it ever happened because I didn't follow and they got they
- 1:27:23got shade because it was Janice. Okay, you know what this This sounds
- 1:27:27like it's like ancient gossip. So yeah, I'm going to do a pass
- 1:27:30on it. But my point is it is gossip, which is not that's
- 1:27:35not what men do. So stop pretending to be a man if you're engaging
- 1:27:39in gossip. But go ahead, Alison, Well, but gossip is fun,
- 1:27:43you know. But I think I think men can engage in gossip.
- 1:27:45It's just don't well there's a lot of posturing. But maybe it's like maybe
- 1:27:53it's like a worldwide you know, like a you know, professional wrestling.
- 1:27:59You know, you got to smack and stuff. But I don't know.
- 1:28:02Twenty nineteen, I just wish I'd been able to attend the actual conference instead
- 1:28:08of Yeah, he wan from the US for five years. Oh god,
- 1:28:13Okay, all right, let's let's finish this. Okay, let's play some
- 1:28:15of this. Here we go os centric. It's always the woman is on
- 1:28:20the pedestal, the woman is above a man. I wouldn't say simp.
- 1:28:24I can't imagine that a guy with that much wealth, status, et cetera,
- 1:28:29simps. But I will say that his I mean, I mean there
- 1:28:33are, yeah, there are very powerful and rich men. That's simp and
- 1:28:39simp hard. I mean, one would argue that you could say Harvey Weinstein
- 1:28:45was a simp because to get women to touch his peepe, his his his
- 1:28:53what was it his uh what was his like weird cuthulhu groin areas octopois,
- 1:29:09he had to give them essentially like a lifetime career of stardom. That that
- 1:29:15is, to me, that's simping. I mean, so, yeah,
- 1:29:18rich guys can simp. They don't. They don't have to be like in
- 1:29:21fact, I think that rich guys have more to simp for. I'm not
- 1:29:27saying these guys are simps, but if it turned out they were, I
- 1:29:30would, Yeah, they have more to simp with, right, More simping
- 1:29:34is available, more temptation. But anyway, let's keep going. Speech is
- 1:29:40a little bit out of touch, and he just characterized what she said.
- 1:29:44He said, oh, she was just asked with a microphone, and she's
- 1:29:47like, yeah, well, two hundred dollars. No, no, no,
- 1:29:50she said two hundred dollars is being nice. And the truth of the
- 1:29:56matter is most women will marry average men. Maybe she will get a slightly
- 1:30:00above average guy. But it puts Tristan in a good situation because he can
- 1:30:05say, hey, two hundred dollars, that's nothing, just pay for dinner.
- 1:30:09Well, that's easy to say when you're a multi billionaire, and the
- 1:30:13truth of the matter is inflation through the roof. What is he a multi
- 1:30:17billionaire? I don't think. I don't think billionaire, But I like,
- 1:30:21she just goes right to the illogic. Yeah, yeah, well yeah,
- 1:30:28when you can say two hundred dollars whatever, you act like dismiss it.
- 1:30:31But like, again, we're not living in an economy where men can do
- 1:30:36that because the government's just printing money and they're spending most of it on women
- 1:30:43and bullshit wars that we don't want anything to do with. And yet men
- 1:30:46are also aft, on top of all of that, expected to shell out
- 1:30:50another two hundred dollars for a woman that might not ask for a second date.
- 1:30:56Like women literally go on dates just to get free dinner. They literally,
- 1:31:00yeah, and they don't even put out they just they just go for
- 1:31:01that. So what do you It's ridiculous, Like I said, a two
- 1:31:06hundred bucks is like, you know, you've been together five years and you're
- 1:31:11celebrating your anniversary. Yeah, I mean I'd rather save up for like a
- 1:31:15video card or something like I get, you know what I mean, Like
- 1:31:17I'm gonna get another monitor? Why on dinner? You know how fast that's
- 1:31:23gone anyway? Yeah, I mean I remember going Okay, I remember going
- 1:31:27on date with Lindsay. Well, we were together and we went to a
- 1:31:30steak place and I wanted to get a steak dinner. And the bill was
- 1:31:35like one hundred and fifty bucks after everything was over with, and the food
- 1:31:40wasn't even that good, and we both were upset about it. We were
- 1:31:44like, you know, that was a waste. We could have just cooked
- 1:31:45it at home. That's the kind of woman you want to keep because you
- 1:31:50know, a lot of times when women want to go to a restaurant,
- 1:31:55they want to be seen at the restaurant. This goes back to the intersexual
- 1:31:59competition. It's they want to be take pictures there. They want to take
- 1:32:01pictures of their food, put post on Instagram, they want to run into
- 1:32:04friends. They're hoping for it, especially if it's a nice restaurant. That's
- 1:32:09why that woman was mad about the cheesecake factory, because that that doesn't seem
- 1:32:15like something to boast about, you know. So anyway, there are average
- 1:32:20men in this country that do important infrastructure jobs. And I really don't like
- 1:32:27this idea that if a guy is frugal with his money that he then should
- 1:32:30not date. He does not deserve a woman. It used to be that
- 1:32:33men that had good jobs and we're working could get a wife and kids,
- 1:32:38and that is not the case in twenty twenty three. For example, forty
- 1:32:42five I want to men, yeah, go ahead, well, actually let
- 1:32:45her finish this all right. For example, forty five percent of men do
- 1:32:48infrastructure jobs. That means they drive trucks. They Yeah, so she's just
- 1:32:54elaborating on that. Yeah, let her finish that, all right, all
- 1:32:57right, pave the roads, they build the building, They do the hard
- 1:33:00jobs in society. A lot of these men are average earners. Let's say
- 1:33:03he wants to and here's the big thing. Here's the big thing. Okay,
- 1:33:10those men are responsible are the ones who are responsible for the comfort of
- 1:33:15our society, right, and they are cut out from its future in terms
- 1:33:21of relationship and children. You know, the primary reason why men invest in
- 1:33:27a society is with the in mind to have a wife and children, right.
- 1:33:33I mean, they might invest in some ideological thing because you tell them
- 1:33:36you're they're gonna get seventy two virgins in heaven. But aside from you know,
- 1:33:41like delusional fantasy narratives that are designed to manipulate people into their work to
- 1:33:45doing things against their own interests, most men invest in a society if they
- 1:33:51have a reasonable chance to have children and a wife. Okay, And the
- 1:33:57best societies give the most amount of men are that reasonable chance. The societies
- 1:34:02that are the most successful do, right, the monogamous societies. So we
- 1:34:08have a situation which the men who are actually responsible for our world being the
- 1:34:15way it is. In other words, the men who have the most worth
- 1:34:25who should genuinely like these men, The ones who are responsible for the infrastructure,
- 1:34:30are the men who practically are the most valuable in our society. Let
- 1:34:36mebe just be frank, and I'm not just talking about infrastructure when it comes
- 1:34:40to physical also the engineers, also the programmers. Okay, the financial guys
- 1:34:46are mostly a bunch of courtiers who have managed to find a way to suckle
- 1:34:53on the tit of free money. Right, they are almost to a te
- 1:34:58worthless, all the Wall Street guys, all the guys who are currently flush
- 1:35:02with money. Now, when we have a situation in a civilization where the
- 1:35:08guys who are actually responsible for the continuance of that civilization are losing out to
- 1:35:14the guys who reap all the benefits but don't take any of the risks and
- 1:35:19don't make any of the effort to make it work. You're not looking at
- 1:35:24a long term a civilization with a lifespan that a future lifespan that can be
- 1:35:29measured in centuries. Yep, lucky, if it's decades. You can't have
- 1:35:33that kind of what is the word for it, that kind of mismatch between
- 1:35:44who the men who are creating, maintaining producing society and the rewards for having
- 1:35:50dudes done. So you see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, right,
- 1:35:57so this is a big problem. And honestly, and maybe it's just
- 1:36:01because I'm weird. You know, when I was dating, I was wearing
- 1:36:05a lumberjack and the jacket and like steel toe boots. For me, the
- 1:36:13men who are most interesting and most admirable are the ones who are doing the
- 1:36:19work that makes the system run. That fascinates me. Not the lawyers,
- 1:36:30not the Wall Street brokers, but the guys who are able to understand what
- 1:36:40needs to get done and doubt undo it right. They take their risks,
- 1:36:45they endure the discomfort, and they're the unsung heroes. Yep. And like
- 1:36:53I said, if society is continuing on the backs of men who get nothing
- 1:36:58from it, not a long term sent of strategy for success. I just
- 1:37:02wanted to point that out. Okay, So I got a super chat a
- 1:37:06while back from Albertianda Retro for two dollars Canadian and he says, it's a
- 1:37:11tate where you were expecting standards. Well, I was, but they're the
- 1:37:15wrong standards that he has. Well, I'm saying he has standards on attractiveness,
- 1:37:19but that's that's you know, valuable. No, not really, No,
- 1:37:27I mean it's a you know, it means that she's taking care of
- 1:37:30herself and stuff. But like that, there's gotta be more there, you
- 1:37:33know. I don't know for the average guy, like Tate can afford you
- 1:37:39know, unattractive looking psychotic creature, he can afford feeling from him and stuff.
- 1:37:46Yeah, yeah, he can afford to have a lunatic because he's got
- 1:37:50that buffer with an average man. With an average man, the quality,
- 1:37:56the ethical quality of the woman is even more important, you know, because
- 1:38:00do you have more to lose if you're an average than Tate does? Well,
- 1:38:05just like he can be like ah, pushaw two hundred bucks, who
- 1:38:08cares? Right? Ah pushaw? Like uh two million bucks to get rid
- 1:38:13of the or the wench. Well that's a that's a that's cheap, right
- 1:38:15ship like that he can manage that because he's that wealthy. Can the average
- 1:38:19man. No, So the idea that everything else is waived because she I
- 1:38:30don't know what what assets did she have? She had a a small rear
- 1:38:35like she uh, she was, she was she was thin, she was
- 1:38:43petite. I couldn't get a really good close look at her face, so
- 1:38:46I don't know how attractive she was. But we can wave all of these
- 1:38:50other considerations. Well, the average man can't. He's not in a position
- 1:38:55to do so. M Right. So yeah, if she expects two hundred
- 1:39:00bucks, just walk on. I mean, it may end up that you
- 1:39:03are going to be alone, but you pro honestly, if that's how she
- 1:39:10rolls, you're probably not gonna end up with her anyway. Yeah, like
- 1:39:14that guy who walked away with from from the woman who's like, oh,
- 1:39:16cheesecake cafe. No, No, that's okay, we're done. M Like,
- 1:39:24do you really think that if he had said, oh, well,
- 1:39:27oh I'm sorry, I'll take you to the most expensive steakhouse in the city,
- 1:39:31do you think that they're going to be together in three months? She's
- 1:39:34she's gonna get her meal, eche her photos for her social media, she
- 1:39:41gets to throw it in the face of her friends, and she'll never see
- 1:39:44him again. And that's and that's it. I mean, that's just what
- 1:39:47I think normally happens. Yep, all right, let's play there's only a
- 1:39:55little left, so like one more minute, get a girlfriend. Right,
- 1:39:59Let's he goes on a date with four women in a month trying to find
- 1:40:02a girlfriend, or takes her on four dates. That's one thousand dollars a
- 1:40:06month. That is not feasible for the average man. And a lot of
- 1:40:12times what I see with these influencers is they just get overwhelmingly out of touch.
- 1:40:16And I don't know why he's mischaracterizing what she says. The next thing
- 1:40:20is he talks about she takes four minutes to get ready, Well, Tristan,
- 1:40:26it takes the guy ten years to get ready to be at a point
- 1:40:30where women want to go on dates with him. And that true. That
- 1:40:33that's that's that's true as fuck. And yeah, I mean it's it's not
- 1:40:39that he's out of touch. It's virtue signaling, like, oh, here's
- 1:40:42an opportunity for me to tell people how good of a man I am.
- 1:40:45This is like, it's almost the same as when you look at a Jubilee
- 1:40:49panel with male feminists, right, and the male feminists you know what I'm
- 1:40:54talking about, these female po Yeah exactly, it's like that it's not useful.
- 1:41:01Yeah, you sound different, did you're are you going on good it's
- 1:41:08now yet? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. My computer does something
- 1:41:11weird where it likes to just or maybe it's discord just randomly dropping me.
- 1:41:15But yeah, it's like, yeah, the people, the men on the
- 1:41:20jubilee panel. I don't know if you mentioned this while I was dropped,
- 1:41:23but you know ones like yeah, I have all of these Pokemon. I've
- 1:41:26got a gender fluid Pokemon. I got a black woman Pokemon, I got
- 1:41:30a lesbian Pokemon. I'm like, all right, and then be okay,
- 1:41:35I am I am the big I am the big dog. I'm the big
- 1:41:40pit dog for my family. I protect all the whole women's You don't have
- 1:41:45a thousand dollars a month to just throw at women that may or may not
- 1:41:47ever call you again, and you call yourself a man like he's raising.
- 1:41:56He's encouraging this attitude with I don't recall that woman being that special, right,
- 1:42:03Oh, yes, she was petite and thin. Okay, great,
- 1:42:06she manages to close her mouth occasionally instead of eating everything in sight. Yeah,
- 1:42:14congratulations, she didn't look like she was anything that special. No,
- 1:42:20and it doesn't even matter, you know what, it doesn't like it doesn't
- 1:42:24matter. No, No, it's not even at It's about the like the
- 1:42:28content of her character comes out in her statements. Yes, that's the thing
- 1:42:32that is important, not what she looks like. She could have been a
- 1:42:35hand beast, she could have been gorelocked, destroyer, say the same shit,
- 1:42:41it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, like, there's no like.
- 1:42:44Basically, what Dristin is saying is if a woman is attractive enough, then
- 1:42:48she has a right or is entitled to this opinion. Right, And it's
- 1:42:54like, no, that's the least relevant part of the statement. The problem
- 1:42:58is the statement itself. Yes, and it doesn't matter if it comes out
- 1:43:02of an attractive woman, like, it's still dumb. And the fact that
- 1:43:08you're encouraging it. What I wanted to get to is the fact that he's
- 1:43:11encouraging it is increasing this problem, Like he's not doing anything to help or
- 1:43:16ameliorate this problem with the avertriche men. And it's almost like it is itself
- 1:43:21intersectional competition that he's engaging in as a man. Yeah, and that's the
- 1:43:28virtue signaling. Yeah, I think that's the conclusion. Yelion, Okay,
- 1:43:33let's play the rest of it. There might not be anything here. But
- 1:43:35that's why, that's why I argue that chivalry is putting a woman out a
- 1:43:39pedestal because it's saying the man should still do for the woman, when really
- 1:43:44the natural order of the world is the woman submitting to the man and doing
- 1:43:47for the man. Again, the natural order of the world is God,
- 1:43:50men, women, and children. Women only truly love when they are doing
- 1:43:54the most for a guy, when they are serving a man. I'm not
- 1:44:00curious what she means by serving, Like I don't than not like a mutual
- 1:44:04serving, but just just because I don't think that this is really that consistent
- 1:44:10with like the Christian Uh, women submit to men men, well, so
- 1:44:15I sacrifice for for the woman like Christ sacrifice for the church. Yeah,
- 1:44:19I mean, I've been I've been reading Rachel Wilson's book of Cult Feminism,
- 1:44:24and something that I learned about Christianity, specifically Protestant and Catholic Christianity, is
- 1:44:31that it was infiltrated by well basically feminism, like a long time ago,
- 1:44:39and I and then and it's slowly like changed, you know, like the
- 1:44:43texts, but I don't I don't know, like this is her reading of
- 1:44:46it. But there is another guy. I had him on the show once.
- 1:44:49His name is Michael Noland and he was a teacher in the UK and
- 1:44:56I had him on as a guest, and he did a podcast recently where
- 1:45:00he said something about how Christianity is is a masculine religion and I want to
- 1:45:09watch it to see what his perspective is. But I'm gonna say that,
- 1:45:14but I have learned that. Yeah, like Protestantism and the Catholicism. After
- 1:45:19like Rome, and there was like this divide. There was like an Eastern
- 1:45:24Church and a Western Church. I think it was like the the Catholic Church
- 1:45:28and the the other one called no no no no no. Well yeah,
- 1:45:32but it was called something else at the time. It was the Byzantine,
- 1:45:39the Byzantine right and and so, and the Byzantine got their asses kicked by
- 1:45:44Muslims or Islam. And then like the Catholic Church. But then out of
- 1:45:46that came the Orthodox Church. And well it's the first church, right,
- 1:45:50it's the oldest church, but it didn't see a resurgence until the Soviet Union.
- 1:45:57And then you because there were people that were suffering and they went to
- 1:46:00Orthodoxy. But anyway, I'm getting I'm getting in the weeds. My point
- 1:46:02is is that according to Rachel Wilson, and I'd have to like do some
- 1:46:06more digging and also hopefully I'll get her on the show and we can talk
- 1:46:10about it a little bit if the audience is interested, because I think,
- 1:46:13you know, talking about religion that doesn't rub people the right way in this
- 1:46:17chat. But I'm interested because she is claiming that it has been basically has
- 1:46:24been corrupted like a very long time ago, because she does all of this
- 1:46:30historical work. I mean, you talk to Rachel Wilson on that show,
- 1:46:32and she seems to know her history. So I would be interested because I
- 1:46:36think, like it's like chivalry, Like Pearl's bringing up chivalry, and this
- 1:46:43has been brought up many times, and when most people think about chivalry,
- 1:46:46they think about it in terms of how men are supposed to treat women.
- 1:46:50But it's not that right. It was something more than that, but it's
- 1:46:55been reduced to that. And I don't know, like, how did we
- 1:46:59change people's perspective on this so much in you know, in such a short
- 1:47:04amount of time. And I think that there is something to this notion that
- 1:47:11these ideals, whether they are the religious ideals, or are sort of like,
- 1:47:15you know, ideals of chivalry have been distorted to become a thing where
- 1:47:19men have to serve women. And this is when I say to serve,
- 1:47:24I mean without discernment, right like like whereas before I think a woman was
- 1:47:31like a man was expected to be a gentleman, but a woman was expected
- 1:47:34to be a lady. And a woman who was a lady got that got
- 1:47:39that treatment. You know, you could watch I don't know, like what
- 1:47:45was the Bostonians. We like it was a book and then it was made
- 1:47:48into a film and we talked about it with Janis Fia Mango. Do you
- 1:47:53remember that when we watched that and there was that doctor woman in there and
- 1:47:57it was about this woman that was like trying to convert this girl to the
- 1:48:01feminist movement, although they didn't really call it that. And there was this
- 1:48:04Southern man played by Christopher Reeve. Do you remember that movie? We watched
- 1:48:09it and talked about it on the show. It was a while ago.
- 1:48:12Anyway, My point is I think that like what these things meant has changed
- 1:48:18a lot, and I'm gonna like explore this Bostonians, Yesians, yes,
- 1:48:27yeah, well Christopher Reeve, Christopher reeve you know where where I honestly,
- 1:48:33I actually think that the corruption is both a lot more universal, like at
- 1:48:43the art tendency towards it is more universal, and I think it's more specific
- 1:48:47to post industrial I mean, I think that makes a lot of sense.
- 1:48:53I think that there's a lot of stuff that's been going on since way before
- 1:48:57we were born. So we're kind of unto hangling this mess. And I
- 1:49:01mean it starts when learning the truth about you know, our reality, like
- 1:49:05that about feminism, right, But there's so many layers to it, and
- 1:49:11I don't know we're going I'm going down this rabbit hole, and it's there
- 1:49:15is some stuff I'm not prepared to talk about now, but there are some
- 1:49:17things that I'm discovering that it's just kind of mind blowing. Anyway, I'm
- 1:49:23gonna watch Michael Nolan's video on masculinity and Christianity because I'm curious about what he's
- 1:49:30going to say, and if I find it interesting enough, I will ask
- 1:49:33him to come back on because I have had him on before. I think
- 1:49:36he like lost his job over like being a teacher, and he was like
- 1:49:42a non feminist instructor in the UK, and I guess he was like breaking
- 1:49:47all the rules and so I think he got canned. But anyway, that
- 1:49:51that's a story for another day. So we got through the whole video and
- 1:49:57are there. I got no more super chows or super chat so you can,
- 1:50:00Oh, Will Nolan, that's right? Why did I say, Michael
- 1:50:02Nolan? Yeah, Will Nolan? Thank you, mister Arlchimithree, That's who
- 1:50:06I was talking about. All right, send it to a super chow if
- 1:50:10you guys can before we leave. But Alison, do you want to do
- 1:50:13the Yeah, I'll do the things. Yeah, let's let's let's end the
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- 1:52:03us, so check out Peter Wright's website ginocentrism dot org. Right, yeah,
- 1:52:10I think so, and please please please share this video because sharing is
- 1:52:15caring. Thank you guys so much for coming on today's episode of Maintaining Frame
- 1:52:17and we'll talk to you all in the next video. By the way,
- 1:52:19call and show tomorrow, guys, call and show because Hannah's not doing an
- 1:52:24HBO talk So if you want to fight me, call in tomorrow and you
- 1:52:29will see. Just be on lookout for the stream. All right, talk
- 1:52:31to you guys in the next video. Why do you think men care about
- 1:52:34a woman's BodyCount? Do you do people actually care about that shit men in
- 1:52:40general? If a man is fucking asking me a BodyCount, he can get
- 1:52:44fucked. Who gives a fun Oh my god, that's so stupid people actually
- 1:52:48ask that shit? Yes you okay, Well, then you're talking to the
- 1:52:51wrong man. If a man is ever asking about your BodyCount, you're talking
- 1:52:56to the wrong man, and he can get fucked. Like, that's so
- 1:52:59fucking stupid, get bugged. Can I ask you this then? Yeah?
- 1:53:02Sure? So what do you think about the analogy? If one key can
- 1:53:08open many locks. It's known as a master keith, as opposed to if
- 1:53:12you have a lock that can be opened by any key, it's a shitty
- 1:53:15lock. I think that if a woman is an analogy to you, then
- 1:53:19you're not fucking ready to be talking to a woman and you should probably get
- 1:53:24fucked. So, if a woman is a key to you, talk to
- 1:53:28your mom, talk to your sister, talk to your cousin. I don't
- 1:53:30know, get a real fucking life.