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- 0:23Good evening everybody. I'll welcome to another edition of the Motor City Mad Mouse
- 0:27Show. Yes, I am the Motor City more Mad Mouse Scott Morgan Ruft.
- 0:32Glad to have a guy that I have so much respect for, and
- 0:35I view this guy as a veteran in more ways than one. His name
- 0:39is Steve Ballisterian Steve, welcome to the Motor City Mad Mouse Show. It's
- 0:44my friend. It's been way too long. I apologize for my forced absence
- 0:49here, but all the best of you and miss Candy, because you guys
- 0:54are aces in my book. Well you're an ace in my book. Well
- 0:58well, well, I'm sure we'll have more shows plan as time goes on.
- 1:00Everybody needs a break from this business and triv wacko. But you know
- 1:04the reality is is you and I to me, we've been at this a
- 1:07long time, and I'm glad to have you tonight, and I'm definitely looking
- 1:11forward to other projects as time progresses. And just let everybody know out there
- 1:15that Candy and I and the South Word Tribune have been improved for the NFL
- 1:19Draft in Detroit. So I just want to make that announcement. Well,
- 1:23Steve's on here, so see let's go ahead. Well, we're going to
- 1:26do tonight is we're going to talk about the New England Patriots. But I
- 1:30want to focus on something much much bigger than that, and that's your military
- 1:34background. So let's talk about it and what are you the most proud of
- 1:38and then the second part of that question, explain to the audience the places
- 1:42that you've traveled. Okay, well, I appreciate the plug. On my
- 1:49military career, I was a soldier in the seventh Special Forces Group. Most
- 1:56people knew us as Army green Berets. I spent seventeen and a half years
- 2:01in before I got hurt and they put me out the pasture. The special
- 2:07Forces training that we went through was some of the toughest in the military.
- 2:15And you know, we were deployed depending on our area orientation. Each of
- 2:21the different special Forces groups had an area of orientation and they would send you
- 2:25the language school. This was in the era before you know, all the
- 2:30stuff in Iraq and Afghanistan just got everybody involved. So they sent me to
- 2:38school to learn Spanish. So my area of operations was Latin America and I've
- 2:44been to virtually every country south of the border. Yeah, all the way
- 2:51down to the tip of you know, Chile and Argentina. I mean,
- 2:58you know, all the way down to the bottom of the continent. So
- 3:01I've been to nearly every country down there. It was a fascinating time because
- 3:07back then that was you know, when all the drug wars were going on.
- 3:12So we spent a lot of time in Bolivia, Colombia and Peru.
- 3:16So d Low's once to thank you for your service, Steve, and watch
- 3:21his chat room go on. Good evening Steve from d Lo. So you're
- 3:24going to see these guys and when I bring a person on you, these
- 3:29guys love to salute. You'll definitely hit it off with these guys absolute big
- 3:32time. But one thing about these guys is they're great people. They're very
- 3:37smart too, these guys when they come in and d Low's is certainly arguably
- 3:42one of the best ones that I've seen out there. He's very sincere,
- 3:45but he knows what he's talking about. But yeah, so when we talk
- 3:47about your military career, where there are any types of lingering effects health wise
- 3:53that ended up hitting you later on? Oh well, ever since the hey
- 4:00they put me out, you know, I got hurt down in South America.
- 4:04They brought me back up to Walter Reed Hospital for surgery, and you
- 4:10know it ended up forcing me out. So I've been living with constant pain
- 4:15since that time. And you know, I've been treated for PTSD like probably
- 4:21ninety percent of the veterans to get out, you know. And there's other
- 4:28aches and pains related to military service. I mean, when you're jumping out
- 4:31of airplanes and you know, carrying ninety pounds of lightweight gear. As they
- 4:38put it on your body, it hurts your back, your shoulders, your
- 4:43knees. And I'm no exception to that. That's all right, Hey listen,
- 4:48didn't figure ability to talk it doing really good? All right, Well
- 4:54that's always open for debate, Scott, right, you know, I don't
- 4:57know. I mean we're talking right obviously. You don't have anything that in
- 5:00peace, the vocal cords. And when the time comes that and impeach my
- 5:03vocal cords, I'm going broken personally. But you know we need a microphone.
- 5:09Sticks and stone may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
- 5:12But I'll tell you if I lose that microphone problem, that may hurt
- 5:14me too. I always look at my let me tell you talk about Spanish.
- 5:16I want to tell you a funny story that happens Saturday night, Okay,
- 5:20over at Chase Stadium with Inner Miami. Have you ever been to a
- 5:24press conference ever in your media career and we'll talk about the Patriots later where
- 5:30you had an all postgame press conference speaking Spanish Spanish only never in media.
- 5:38But I've been to press conferences, you know, overseas where maybe the president
- 5:46of such and such a country was talking, and yet all of those were
- 5:50in Spanish and media after a soccer game in South Florida, all the Spanish.
- 6:00That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, Well it's safe to say you're Spanish
- 6:04improved by the time. You loved there though, right, No, as
- 6:08a matter of fact, I didn't know anything about Spanish. I would have
- 6:11wished I would have taken it as a second language. And when I see
- 6:14those class APR people, Ralpha Cabrera and Molly Dresca, who hadn't seen me
- 6:18in the year and a half because I've been sick myself, and they were
- 6:20glad. They treated me great, We're just glad you have you back here.
- 6:24But but I said, rabha, what's the deal? I couldn't get
- 6:27the questionnaires that don't worry have me. We did old things Spanish, but
- 6:30you could have done it upstairs, and I will that shows you, with
- 6:32being away a year and a half of me, I said, no big
- 6:34deal. I mean this is so I decided, when I see these people,
- 6:38aguess I'll write a story throwing myself under the bus because I didn't have
- 6:42Spanish for a second language. So and I should have known better, because
- 6:46I when I was covering the Miami Marlins at the beginning and we were doing
- 6:49these zoom calls, half the at least in this situation was half Spanish and
- 6:55half American, and I didn't know how many great quotes I was missing because
- 6:59of this his side, you know, but this was the first and I
- 7:02decided, you know, this is a good not to write up. And
- 7:05I did, you know you always have to make light of it more said
- 7:09nine lives. I have to make the most of what I have. And
- 7:11obviously I take a looking and keep on talking like the role time as it
- 7:15takes the looking and keep on taking. All right, we'll leave at watch
- 7:17analogies. I will go one more military question. Do you think that we'll
- 7:21ever see another Pat Tillman? I mean, here's the guy that played football,
- 7:25gave up an awful lot of money, and unfortunately passed away serving his
- 7:29country. The most unselfish person on the planet. The Cardinals have a statue
- 7:32of them outside their building in Arizona. But the most selfless individual to me
- 7:40is Pat Tillman, and you can never honor him enough. Yeah, I
- 7:44would imagine that. You know, if the situation avails itself again, we'll
- 7:49have other guys that will step up to the plate and and you know,
- 7:56serve their country. Pat gave up million dollar contry, you know, to
- 8:01join the military. And I can tell you that unless the guys don't make
- 8:05that kind of money. So right, you know, interesting story about Pat.
- 8:13He met just before his last tour. He met with Bill Belichick,
- 8:18and Belichick didn't know what his plans were after, you know, he was
- 8:24due to come home from his last tour in Afghanistan. But he said,
- 8:30if you know, whatever your plans are, I have a job for you
- 8:35when you come home. Wow. That's pretty cool, Pretty nice, all
- 8:41right, Well for transition to it segue, So we talked about Bill Chelichick.
- 8:46What been life like after Bill Belichick for the Patriots. Yeah, it's
- 8:54it's really it's weird because for nearly twenty five years, a quarter of a
- 8:58centre right, you know, Belichick's been that one constant down there, and
- 9:05now you know, Gerrod Mayo's taking over. Mayo was a really good football
- 9:11player, you know, then he came to coaching. He's been really widely
- 9:20recognized as an up and coming coach in NFL ranks. And originally they,
- 9:28you know, they kept him from the Panthers, I believe last year because
- 9:33he was going to take a gig with the Panthers. But you know,
- 9:37they said, hey, we'd like you to stay. We'll give you a
- 9:41bump and pay because eventually when Bill does retire, you know, we want
- 9:48you to take over. Well, you know, because of what happened in
- 9:54twenty twenty three, Bill didn't get a chance to retire. He was ushered
- 9:58out to and now Mayo has taken over. But you know, the first
- 10:03reactions we've gotten from the players this week because they have a new you know,
- 10:11a new whole new coaching staff in place, they were allowed to start
- 10:16their offseason activities early, so they you know, they were back in the
- 10:20building on Monday. Hunter, Henry Jabrill Peppers or the guys that were elected
- 10:28to speak with the media, and they were both raving about Mayo. They're
- 10:31looking forward to playing with him or for him, I should say, you
- 10:35know, so he has a lot of respect in the building with the players.
- 10:41It's just really different not seeing Bill out there. I mean that twenty
- 10:48five years, you know, twenty four that's a really long time. So
- 10:54what was your relationship like with Bill Belichick, Steve, I didn't really have
- 11:01a relationship with him. I mean I would, you know, when I
- 11:03was down there at Gillette, you know, I would sit right in front
- 11:11for all this press conferences because you know, it's like you're listening to one
- 11:16of the masters speak, and a lot of people complain that he doesn't give,
- 11:22you know, very long or detailed answers to stuff, which, you
- 11:28know, it got to the point where and the guys who were down there
- 11:31more than myself, they would always say, you have to read between the
- 11:35tea. Leaves would build. But when you would get somebody asking him a
- 11:41question of how related to NFL history, then it was time to sit back
- 11:46in your seat and listen. And it would be amazing. He could talk
- 11:52NFL history for hours at a time and he is. Some of the stuff
- 11:58he would tell you it was just mind blowing. You know. He talked
- 12:03about key games and and he could give you down in distance the time left
- 12:09in you know, a certain quarter, and he'd be talking about certain players
- 12:13and what formations they were running. I mean, he was a true student
- 12:20of the game. He still is. I mean, but you know what
- 12:24I'm saying. And I never really thought, you know, Bill knew who
- 12:28I was. I mean, because there's so many guys, especially during the
- 12:33Brady years, there was so many media people there. And then you know,
- 12:39after practice one day, I was slated to uh talk to one of
- 12:43the other, you know, younger players. I had asked to speak to
- 12:46a young tight end that was coming in. So he was coming off the
- 12:50field and I had kind of walked to the side so him and I could
- 12:54talk one on one. And Bill was going by, going back down the
- 12:58stairs towards locker rooms, and I just said, hey, you get afternoon
- 13:03coach, and He's like, Steven, how are you. I was like,
- 13:05okay. I mean I got to ask him questions and stuff like that,
- 13:13but I didn't think, you know, so that was kind of eye
- 13:18opening, because you know, he obviously would speak to the you know,
- 13:24the Bob so si'es them, you know, Tom Curran, you know guys
- 13:30like that, Mike Reese, you know the guys who had been long,
- 13:33long established there. You know Karen Griggian from the Boston well, she was
- 13:39with the Boston Herald now she's in mass Live. He Bill had a lot
- 13:43of respect for her, and he always be very polite to Karen. All
- 13:48right, let's go to the chair room real quick. Josh O door.
- 13:50What's going on? Steve? Yeah, josh how are you? And it's
- 13:56good to be seen here. Grill Peppers related to Dottie Pepper. No,
- 14:03okay, there you go, Joshua. All right, well, well that
- 14:07said, we talked about Belijick. Did you ever get to know Jared Mayo
- 14:09pretty well? Mayo? Yeah. I mean, you know, when he
- 14:15was a player, he was very he was very vocal. He was a
- 14:22leader on the field and during practice, I mean it would get really competitive
- 14:30out there. Like Brady, you know, and you and I have talked
- 14:33about this so many times. Brady was uber competitive and even in practice,
- 14:39I mean if he threw an incomplete pass where he was off the mark,
- 14:43he would get mad and of course Mayo would just fire him up because then
- 14:48they'd get the defense all fired up. And there was so much trash talk
- 14:52in there, and Gerrod was always but when it came to the media,
- 14:56guys, you know, you talk to him, he was always so on
- 15:01point. He was very well spoken, extremely intelligent guy and super nice guy.
- 15:07You know. I don't know if you've seen any of his press conferences
- 15:11since he took over the you know, the head coaching gig now, and
- 15:16he's just that what you're seeing there is who he is. That's who he
- 15:22is. There's no you know, different side of him. I'm sure you
- 15:26know, as a coach, he'll be able to bust chops on the guys
- 15:30when they're doing something wrong. But he's a very positive, you know,
- 15:35influence on the players, and I think they relate to him extremely well because
- 15:41he played for Belichick on this team for eight years and he was an excellent
- 15:46football player. So what kind of a job do you think he's going to
- 15:50do. There's one thing to follow a legend, but it's another one you
- 15:54follow a legend who struggled on the way out. You know, I've seen
- 15:58it at so many different times, but some or another I get the fillings
- 16:00on house money here. Yeah, I mean that's the big unknown, right.
- 16:06He has a whole new staff. You know, he was a really
- 16:11good defensive coach. I mean him and Steve Belichick where the I guess you
- 16:17could call him de facto co defensive coordinators. Bill was never won much on
- 16:25titles. So and because of the NFL rules where you know, the coordinators
- 16:32had to speak to the media, Bill would take that onus off of the
- 16:37guys. That's why a lot of times they didn't have, excuse me,
- 16:41a name defensive coordinator, they didn't have a name defensive coordinator. Bill would
- 16:47take the heat off those guys. And if there was any complaints or you
- 16:52know, people wanted a nitpick about stuff, he'd put it on himself.
- 16:56So he's a smart dude man, and you know, the players raved about
- 17:03his knowledge of the system. I would imagine defensively, they're going to keep
- 17:10a lot of those same philosophies in place because it worked. I mean,
- 17:14even though they were four and thirteen last year, their defense was good and
- 17:18it kept them in every game about about two or three. Over to Candy
- 17:26for a moment, Miss Candy. Good evening everybody. If you see that
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- 19:03what you're in it. I don't forget. I don't forget about people like
- 19:07you. Tell all right, So let's talk about Mac Jones trading to Jacksonville.
- 19:14Let's say, SURRELI, this guy was dustined to fail, not because
- 19:18of any fault of his own. I got off to a decent start with
- 19:22Josh McDaniels as the offensive coin there a boy, you had, Joe Judge
- 19:26and Matt Patricia and then they tried to save the situation. Bill O'Brien,
- 19:30what happened to Mac Jones? Uh? They you know, it was a
- 19:36combination of things, and Mac would tell you the same thing. Part of
- 19:41it was himself, because you know, they were in such dire straits,
- 19:48you know, especially last year the offensive line was walking infirman reunit. I
- 19:55mean, so the protection was horrid last year that were run blocking was horrid.
- 20:04So when you can't run the ball and you can't protect your quarterback and
- 20:10your wide receivers are, to put it, mildly struggling. And you know,
- 20:18he was trying to do too much. He was trying to force the
- 20:21issue too much. He made terrible he made some really terrible decisions, and
- 20:27you know, it just snowballed and his confidence. You could see by the
- 20:33middle of the year his confidence was shot. If you watch the tape of
- 20:38his rookie year. I mean, you know, they won ten games,
- 20:42they made it to the playoffs. We got annihilated by Buffalo. But the
- 20:48fact that you know, two years after Brady was gone, they're back in
- 20:52the playoffs, I mean, things were looking pretty good. And then McDaniel's
- 20:57left for the Raiders, and I think it really took him by surprise because
- 21:04they didn't have a plan in an effect, and Belichick elected to go with
- 21:11you know, Matty p and Joe Judge. And to say it was a
- 21:18disaster is putting in lightly. I mean we heard reports after the fact that
- 21:25you know, right at the beginning of like mini camps, in training camp,
- 21:32you know, offensive linemen, we're asking questions about protections and you know,
- 21:40what are we going to do if a team does this and they didn't
- 21:41have answers for it, and some of the players said they were shocked because
- 21:48they didn't have an answer for what is a legitimate question, how are we
- 21:52going to handle this? And it showed itself on the field and it affected
- 21:56Mac Jones. I mean, and you know, the bottom line is their
- 22:02wide receivers last year were not an imposing bunch. I mean, you look
- 22:07at it. Juju severely underperformed. I think he ended up with two hundred
- 22:14and thirty nine yards receiving. Wow. You know, after Jacoby Myers was
- 22:18you know, pretty much a seven eight hundred yard guy, you know,
- 22:23and they had him Kendrick Bourne at the end of Max rookie season. Kendrick
- 22:33Bourne was their go to guy. I mean, he was making explosive plays
- 22:38all over the field. You know, him and Mac got on a really
- 22:42nice chemistry going. And then the beginning of that year with Patricia, Kendrick
- 22:52Bourne was late for a meeting and he stayed in the doghouse for the entire
- 22:56season. Wow. And and every time they put him on the field,
- 23:03like they'd be in a game, you know, they start falling way behind.
- 23:07They'd put Born in for a series and with him and Jacoby Myers now
- 23:11they're world beaters, but you know, he gave Max some viable targets.
- 23:17They would go down and score, and then they take Bourne right out of
- 23:19the game again. And I blame that on Patricia because how long are you
- 23:23going to keep a guy in the doghouse, you know, since you know
- 23:29that that incident happened in and in training camp last year, Bourne came in,
- 23:37he was in great shape, he was off to a really good start,
- 23:41and then he was hurt out for the year with Juju. His knees.
- 23:48I think his knees are shot. Honestly. You know, he was
- 23:51underperforming Devonte Parker. You know, he's not an X that you want to
- 23:59rely on, and they were forced to rely on the rookie to Mario Douglas,
- 24:03and you know that just really really was ugly to watch, and it
- 24:10affected Jones and by by mid season you could see his confidence was completely shot.
- 24:17So I think this move going to you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars,
- 24:22I think this was a really good move for him. You know, he's
- 24:26going to be with Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence, so you know what he'll
- 24:30you know, unless Lawrence gets hurt, Mac won't see the field this year,
- 24:36maybe some mop up duty here and there, but it will give him
- 24:40time to get his head back on straight, get his confidence going, which
- 24:42I think Peterson will be great for that. And you know, then he'll
- 24:48uh, you know, he'll have a shot at being a good career backup
- 24:52or somebody might take a shot at him if he gets some you know,
- 24:57playing time, and you know, in the situation where Lawrence may get dinged
- 25:03up. But I think that was the best thing to happen to him because
- 25:07I was a mac jones guy. I loved what I saw, you know,
- 25:11that rookie season. You know, at the beginning of that rookie season,
- 25:15Josh McDaniels kind of had the training wheels on. He didn't want to
- 25:18put too much on his plate. He wanted him to, you know,
- 25:22to find a comfort level. And then as the season went on, you
- 25:26know, they he kept getting better and better and they went on a long
- 25:30winning streak there and you know, made the playoffs. So I think it's
- 25:34going to be good for back Well. The truth of the matter, as
- 25:37he said, Jacksonville's his hometown. We all know that Josh McDaniels Heck mc
- 25:41courtney are not a very good head coach, Bill Brian. They tried to
- 25:45do what they could to bring his old coach in for Alabama. Unfortunately,
- 25:48there were just too many that was way beyond his control to be able to
- 25:52fix that situation. And yeah, that's the one that's on Bill because O'Brien
- 25:57was under the impression and that he was going to be able to bring all
- 26:00of his own offensive coaches in and Belichick only allowed to bring one guy,
- 26:07and so that kind of put Bill O'Brien behind the eight ball. But as
- 26:12we know, O'Brien's a great offensive coordinator and he's been a successful head coach
- 26:18too down in Houston. And you know, say what you will about McDaniel's
- 26:22being an awful head coach, but he was always an outstanding offensive court Oh,
- 26:26no doubt. Yeah, no doubt about that. Well look at it
- 26:29this way with Ole Brian, though, the guy's going to go up the
- 26:32street and what he's going to coach Boston College? Now, yeah, in
- 26:34the worst thing in the world. Not like he had to leave the state
- 26:37of Massachusetts, isn't yeah nearby? Yeah, I mean he other went twenty
- 26:44minutes up the road. So because that had traffick unbelievable. So no,
- 26:49I'm I'm with it and what I'm out Dailey Zappi though, I mean,
- 26:53he's still there, but we know that. As we lead to our next
- 26:56thing, the NFL Draft lands, let's talk about the plans. I know
- 27:00the quarterback certainly is one of the things they're looking into. Yeah, well,
- 27:06first with Zappi. Yeah, him and Mac Jones didn't get along from
- 27:11day one. And depending on who you talk to or what you know you're
- 27:17hearing from behind the scenes, some say it was Mac, some say it
- 27:22was Zappy. I know Zapi is uber competitive, and you know he said
- 27:29right off the bat in his rookie year that he didn't consider himself the backup
- 27:34quarterback, So read with that what you will, but he's not the answer.
- 27:45He's a career backup at best. Honestly, I think for the third
- 27:49quarterback position this year, he'll have a tough time beating out Nathan Rourke,
- 27:56the kid from the CFL. Well, I agree, yeah, I I
- 28:00know that Jacksonville. I think they let a good one get away with Nathan
- 28:03Rourke. I really do. Yeah, that play he made in pre season
- 28:07last year was literally insane. Yeah, where he almost got sacked like four
- 28:14times and then threw a long touchdown. But anyway, yeah, I think
- 28:18he's going to be I think he's going to surprise some people. Not saying
- 28:21he's going to compete for the starting job, but I think he's he's gonna
- 28:26in my opinion, and this is before they take the field, so you
- 28:30know, take it with a grain of salt, but I think he'll be
- 28:33the third quarterback this year. Yeah. Well, amazingly enough, though,
- 28:37when you look at the Patriots, you certainly found a way. How do
- 28:41you ruin a quarterback? Well, they did, okay, because I know
- 28:45that mac Jones came from the Nick Saban and let's think it's reality. I
- 28:51realized some Alabama quarterbacks aren't exceptional starters with some of them aren't bad either,
- 28:56But if you're looking for a way to ruin a quarterback, they did exactly
- 28:59that. And hopefully he'll resurrect. But the thing about Bailey ZAPPI though,
- 29:03Steve I saw him playing college at Western Kentucky because they're playing against Florida Atlantic.
- 29:07A few times it ran up numbers like you wouldn't believe. But boy,
- 29:11but a few people realize though that when you come to the NFL from
- 29:17college. I don't care how many numbers you run up. The competitions took
- 29:19different depending on the conference you're in. The competition and Bailey zapp to me,
- 29:26I thought it was the number three. I thought he could be the
- 29:29steal. But then when I'm hearing what you're telling me right now, you're
- 29:33right. Maybe he is a career back. A couple other questions I want
- 29:34to get to you obviously, just let me Runny know. The Sports Exchange
- 29:38will air tonight around nine o'clock Eastern time as well. My name is Scott
- 29:42Morgan Rocks the Motor City Madmouth Show. Please be joined by my Steve BALLISTI
- 29:48risfans dot com. Is that correct, Steve? That's correct? So with
- 29:52them that this July at training camp will be my thirteenth year for them,
- 29:56great stuff. Well, I'll tell you what. So they have the authority
- 30:00here on New England Patriots football. So let's talk about Bill Belichick. He
- 30:04didn't get another job this year. And you know what when December came around.
- 30:11Okay, you know what was the real reason that he never got another
- 30:15job? Because I know he wants to chase Don Shulo's record. Yeah,
- 30:21I was actually surprised that a couple of teams that maybe were on the cusp
- 30:27of competing for a Super Bowl didn't reach out to him, because, as
- 30:34you know, I mean, if Bill was to go to a team,
- 30:41I'm just going to use this as an example of Dallas Cowboys, right,
- 30:47I would think the Cowboys would get a lot deeper in the playoffs because you
- 30:52know, he can coach up a defense. Now. I think Dallas's defense
- 30:56is much more talented to the Patriots, you know, so I would think
- 31:02that he would have done a really good job on that side of the football,
- 31:07and it takes some of the pressure off your offense because they're they're not
- 31:11having to put up thirty points every week to win, you know what I
- 31:15mean. I'm not saying Dallas was giving up that much, but I'm just
- 31:21using that as an example because I thought Mike McCarthy would have been out the
- 31:26door this spring, but they opted to keep him around. And maybe,
- 31:33you know, Jerry Jones didn't want Bill in there because as we know,
- 31:37Bill is a very hands on type of guy and he doesn't want the owner
- 31:45telling him what to do on the field. So, you know, but
- 31:49I was surprised Bill didn't get another shot. You know, I was thinking
- 31:56Dallas, you know, and you know, we heard about Atlanta and it
- 32:01seemed like he was going to go to Atlanta. And then they decided to,
- 32:05you know, go for a younger guy and Raheem Morris. So you
- 32:09know, I'm surprised, and I wonder if anyone's gonna, you know,
- 32:17offer him a job next year because now he's getting up there. He's like
- 32:22seventy one years old, right, so it's gonna be tough for him.
- 32:27So what that said, When do you think the decision was really made to
- 32:30let Belichick go? I know that the Indianapolis came out overseas probably is what
- 32:36I've been hearing with that. Yeah, that's what we heard too. I
- 32:40mean, they had cameras on the ownership and they were reading lips, and
- 32:46you know, I know that they were. The ownership was really disappointed,
- 32:52really disappointed that they lost that game over in Germany. All right, one
- 32:59other question here, let's talk about the handling of Tom Brady's departure. Did
- 33:02that expedite Bill Belichick's departure? Knowing Robert Craft, who told me he has
- 33:07been mad that Tom Brady was handled that poorly. We we know that Belichick
- 33:13will he used to like to get people a little bit before, but this
- 33:15is the one time he didn't want to do it, knowing full well.
- 33:19Then his records without Tom Brady, I think they were like ten games under
- 33:22five hundred without Brady there and then with Brady, so we all we all
- 33:27know that Brady certainly was a straw than you were able to drink out of,
- 33:32you know. Yeah. And you know a funny thing with that is
- 33:39I had spoken, well, you know, we saw Tom in that twenty
- 33:46nineteen summer just before he left, the summer before he left, and you
- 33:53know, the rumors were that the Patriots were going to give him a three
- 33:59year deal kind of like what Drew Brees was getting at that time if you
- 34:01remember, you know, because that's what he wanted and he wanted to retire
- 34:07a Patriot. And I had talked to one of Tom's friends and he told
- 34:14me that it wasn't Belichick who pulled the plug on it, it was Craft,
- 34:21and that we learned later that Craft made Bill the bad guy by saying,
- 34:28well, you tell Tom, we're going year to year and you're going
- 34:32to have to break the news to him. Really wow. Yeah, and
- 34:38that came out this year, you know that that news about that, so
- 34:43you know, we had heard about that, and you know, the I
- 34:51firmly believe that they didn't think Tom would lead. But if you saw Tom
- 34:57that summer of twenty nineteen, he was always spot on. You know,
- 35:04of course he's all business on the football field, even in practice, but
- 35:08he was downright surly and mad that summer and you could sense that something was
- 35:15really a miss with that. And that's when he decided that's it, I'm
- 35:22out of here. And he played out that season. You know, they
- 35:27made the playoffs, but they lost in the wild Guard game, right,
- 35:30and you know, then he said he was going down to Tampa and you
- 35:36know, and of course we know what happened in the first year there.
- 35:38They won a Super Bowl. So yeah, but you know, the crafts
- 35:45have they've laid a lot of this at the feet of Belichick. And I
- 35:50don't know if you've had a chance to watch, there was a series on
- 35:54Apple TV called The Dynasty, right, and I was really shocked because this
- 36:04is you know, kind of like you know, the Last Dance or you
- 36:08know the Chicago Bulls, you know, docusaries that was. This was so
- 36:15negative. It was like, I don't know why they called it the Dynasty
- 36:20because everything was negative in it, and they tried to delay everything at Belichick's
- 36:25feet. And Robert Kraft took a big hit from the fan base because,
- 36:31you know, Craft everything that went right, you know, he was taking
- 36:36his bows for everything that went wrong in those twenty years. He was putting
- 36:42on Bill. And that resonated with fan base because they were like, hey,
- 36:47you know, you know, you don't go to nine Super Bowls in
- 36:52eighteen years without Bill Belichick behind, you know, on the bench. And
- 36:57I mean think about that. How hard it is to get to one or
- 37:00two Super Bowls. They went to nine in eighteen years, which is basically
- 37:05every other season. You're going every other season to the Super Bowl. And
- 37:13you know, they won six, but they won to nine, and it's
- 37:17you know, they don't do that. I mean, as great as Tom
- 37:21was, you know, everyone wants to say, was it Brady or was
- 37:23it Bill. I think it's unfair to the players that they had and to
- 37:28the other coaches because it was both of them, and Bill was really painted
- 37:35in a bad light, and a lot of the fan base was quite upset
- 37:39about that well, if it wasn't for the fact that you had two miracle
- 37:44catches, they probably have eight instead of six. And so with that,
- 37:49the Mario Manningham catch still gives me nightmares. What about the other way,
- 37:54Yeah, I mean that other that other throw that Eli Manning made. I'm
- 38:01trying to remember who that was down the sidewinch too, but that was such
- 38:07a great throw. That was an absolute dime. And you know, hats
- 38:12off to Eli. I mean he played he you know, down in the
- 38:16stretch in both of those Super Bowl He was fantastic. So all right,
- 38:22what was your relationship like with Tom Brady? I'm sure you'd have to know
- 38:25him pretty well over thirteen years. Yeah, Tom, you know, he
- 38:29was just an awesome guy. I mean again, you know, he was
- 38:34always well spoken, He was always very polite, even when there were times
- 38:38when he didn't want to be you could tell, but he was always very
- 38:42polite. Just a really nice guy. And you know, he had that
- 38:47TV twelve clinic, you know, up in Gillette. He had another one
- 38:52in Boston at the time, and I had heard through the Grape Fine that
- 38:58you know, there was green but Ray's coming home from Afghanistan. There were
- 39:05you know, really banged up badly, and Tom was taking them to his
- 39:08clinic and treating them for free. So at that time, as you knew,
- 39:14I was writing for several military websites. So I reached out to Tom
- 39:21and Alex Guerrero and I said, I would like to do a story on
- 39:25the TV twelve clinic because I know you're treating guys who were injured, But
- 39:34how would it work, you know that their philosophy, how would it work
- 39:39of preparing soldiers to go overseas. So they agreed to let me in the
- 39:45building and with the stipulation that I go through the therapy that Tom went through.
- 39:52And I'm here to tell you, you know, when Tom talks about
- 39:55lengthening and softening muscles, that was some of the most painful stuff I've ever
- 40:02felt in my life. Well, it seems like one of those painless things
- 40:07that iran was the fact that Tom Brady would always take pay cuts and make
- 40:10sure that you had good writers around him. He really did. Speaking about
- 40:15my relationship with Tom, I wrote this article and then on Tom's Instagram he
- 40:22put on there this was a great article, and that's that's always been my
- 40:28little pat on the back to myself because I tell some of the other guys
- 40:34when I see him. Did Tom ever tell you you wrote a great article?
- 40:40Well? I know, and then somebody like that will. I'll never
- 40:43forget when I did a story on Jack Camp where his secretary sent me a
- 40:47nice think, you know, because I was talking about not only Congress's career
- 40:53but what he did with the U. So so many people will reach out
- 40:55to you and show their appreciation. And my final question of the night before
- 41:00we go to your contact information, is this, he goes to Tampa,
- 41:05Bruce Arians and all that. You know, I once told you what Tom
- 41:10coren that I thought he was going to come back, and you guys didn't
- 41:13believe me, and I was right. Remember that show and I do.
- 41:16I don't know, Tommy, but what were your thoughts about Tom going to
- 41:21Tampa? Do you think it was more to prove the Patriot's wrong or to
- 41:24prove that he was a lot that you gave up on me a little earlier.
- 41:28Because I know there's a lot of different ways I'm going to prove you
- 41:30wrong. I can still win that it was me and not you, and
- 41:34lo and behold, Bruce Arians. Let him do whatever he want. You
- 41:37know, but Bruce Arians did to Tom Brady was what Don Shula did to
- 41:40Dan Marino. Do whatever you want, just win, of course, But
- 41:45you know, I think he was. I think he was very bitter after,
- 41:50you know, twenty years with New England to be forced out the door
- 41:55because they're telling you, and you know, there was no drop off in
- 42:00his play. There was drop off in the players around him in that last
- 42:05year. You know, in twenty nineteen, you know, there was a
- 42:09big drop off. They weren't the same team at that point, and you
- 42:16know they were kind of leaking out. Oh where you can see the decline
- 42:22in Tom's game? I heard that a lot in twenty nineteen. I heard
- 42:28it a lot. Well, you can see the decline, and I'm like,
- 42:30I don't see any decline in this game. And then he went to
- 42:34Tampa and he threw for what was his forty something touchdowns and they won a
- 42:38Super Bowl. So I don't know, was that a big decline. It
- 42:43wasn't to me. Well, it was a decline for you and me,
- 42:45And somehow, some way, we either took dumb pills and forgot what football
- 42:51wall is about, or were suffering from a disease by the way, that
- 42:53I made up called dumb Minch as well dumb m E n Tia if you
- 42:58don't and if you wonder if it's a d no, I made it up.
- 43:00I take words and letters whatever I want to try to find what we're
- 43:04really attempting to really reach out there. So now I mean Tom Brady,
- 43:07hey, he's a Michigan guy for crying out while the Wolverines won the national
- 43:10championship and again they have the most wins of Division One history to begin with,
- 43:15and the fact a Michigan guy Okay has won more Super Bowls, Wolverine
- 43:20has won more games, and of course Loo could have done. A Michigan
- 43:23guy has won that many. Unbelievable Michigan. That's so bad. But with
- 43:29all due respect, you know, Steve, I've always thought so much of
- 43:31you anyways, and you know, when it comes to the Patriots, you
- 43:36know, this is the franchise that you've been around for a long time.
- 43:39And if anybody knows a post of what you're doing is one thing. So
- 43:44really, what are you more proud of your military career or what you did
- 43:49afterwards by being able to write sports for unquestionably one of the best organizations on
- 43:53the planet because the Patriots have a remarkable history. Yeah, I think the
- 43:59military still stands tall for me. I mean, you know, I and
- 44:06my wife would be the first to tell you. She's like, what you're
- 44:08doing down there is not a job, because you would do it for free
- 44:14and if they just let you in the door. And I said, that's
- 44:17absolutely true, I would do it for free. So but you know,
- 44:23I grew up being a Patriots fan up there, and then after the military,
- 44:29I lived in the South for a while, but then moved back up
- 44:32there and I locked into a great gig. Like I said, I'll be
- 44:37in in July. This year would be my thirteenth season. Started my thirteenth
- 44:42season writing for Pats fans. Ian Loge, the guy who owns and runs
- 44:46the place up there. You know, he's been a good friend of me
- 44:51for all these years. And you know it's been so much fun, you
- 44:57know, because as a kid, grown up, they weren't very good.
- 45:00They had some times where they were, you know, right there on the
- 45:05cusp. You know, they went to a couple of Super Bowls but lost
- 45:09both of them. But to see Bill Belichick him in and just year after
- 45:15year they were just a powerhouse. You know, it was so much fun.
- 45:22Now it's it's really intriguing because I'm excited. I didn't want to see
- 45:25Bill go, but now to Rod Mayo. They just made the decision to
- 45:30move on. And I like Mayo. I liked him as a coach.
- 45:35I was looking forward to him getting a shot. Now, you know,
- 45:37you have to embrace it. As much as we didn't want to see Bill
- 45:40go, we're excited. You know, they might not be very good this
- 45:45year again, but it's you know what, I just want to see him
- 45:49build it from the ground up again. Rocket Scientists wanted to say good evening
- 45:52Steve. He's another one of our having contributors. So Stee, you know,
- 45:57so glad to have you on the broadcast. And I know we'll have
- 46:00other projects that we're going to work on. One things we're gonna work on
- 46:04down the line will be Bob associated to play by play announcer. I know
- 46:07he won't available to night, but this was a good opportunity for you and
- 46:09I guy and be able to reminisce but still talk Patriots football, especially as
- 46:15a draft that's coming up in about two weeks. So the Southboord of Tribune
- 46:19will be over in Detroit, my hometown cornd the NFL Draft. I'm sorry.
- 46:22Anything going to add to that, Steve, Yeah, real quick.
- 46:27A little anecdote about Belichick and and with Bob's sociated guy. You mentioned Bob's
- 46:32their radio play by play guy, super guy, super super nice guy.
- 46:38You met him, and whenever I was down there, you know, I
- 46:44would sit a lot of times, I would sit next to Bob and we'd
- 46:46sit up near the front where Bill was, and I'd always make a joke,
- 46:52I'm going to ask Bill when we're going to get an army guy on
- 46:55the team, because Bill's such a Navy guy, you know, And he
- 47:00joked around me. He's like, I'll never have an Army guy. So
- 47:04I used to wear my Army Special Forces at in there, and I'd sit
- 47:07there and I whispered above I'm going to ask him, and he said,
- 47:12don't do it. You'll be that guy where you know Bill gave gives the
- 47:15long ten seconds stare. So this one day, Bill was in a really
- 47:22good move and he was joking around with the media, which wasn't very often,
- 47:28you know, but he was just having a good time. And I
- 47:30said to boy, I'm going to ask him. So Bill said any more
- 47:35questions and he was dead on looking at me, and I just pointed it
- 47:39at my hat and Bill smiled and said, we're done here. There you
- 47:45go. I'm glad you got along. Hey, Bob told you that,
- 47:49you know what, at least he did it in a way where it sounded
- 47:52like to me joked around about it a little. Yeah, yeah, it
- 47:54was yeah, and we laughed, you know, and uh yeah when we
- 48:01walked outside about that. But you know, it is what it is.
- 48:06I'm really looking forward to the draft. I like the kid from North Carolina,
- 48:09Drake May. I'm hoping he's going to be the guy for the Patriots.
- 48:14But Jayden Daniels is really good too. And you know, we're hearing
- 48:17rumors about McCarthy, that Michigan kid, so who knows. Nobody knows what's
- 48:23going on, right, you know, wouldn't it be perfect synergy of JJ
- 48:28McCarthy lands in New England to replaces another Michigan. I'm brady, I don't
- 48:34know's if it makes sense, it could happen, and I'll leave it at
- 48:37that. Those stories will right themselves, Yeah they will. We'll know in
- 48:42the next couple of weeks. So, as I mentioned, the south Ward's
- 48:44tribute will be in my hometown of Detroit Collage as well. So with that
- 48:47said, can you want to come on real quick and everybody now to get
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- 51:01get a lot of the big schools in Florida. Everybody knows that business men
- 51:06and the media men we try anyways, Hey, Listen, when you go
- 51:10to the NFL Draft, you realize how many Florida kids get taken. And
- 51:15I see that we have Florida State, USF even you see it for that
- 51:17matter, Florida, Atlantic, Miami, Florida, you name it there.
- 51:22I'll be surprised how many Florida kids can actually go out there and do some
- 51:28unbelievable things. In fact, I'll never forget before we wrap things up here
- 51:31that Brandon Powell I'll never forget from Deerfield Beach High School as an undrafted free
- 51:36agent, made the Lions with an exceptional training camp. And of course now
- 51:38he's a Super Bowl ring with the Rams and he's been moving around. But
- 51:42they're just supposed to show you so what. That's a step as our customary
- 51:45procedure goes. Let Why don't you'll everybody know how to get a hold of
- 51:49here. Yes, you know, you can find me on Twitter at Steve
- 51:53B seven SFG. I'm on Facebook instance, all the social media sites.
- 52:02Steve Balistrari and I write for Patsfans dot com. And I just wanted to
- 52:07say, folks, buy that book. I love you man, because it's
- 52:15been too long. I love you well. The best part about you is
- 52:17you only across seventy five ninety minutes away. Don't matter. And by the
- 52:22way, I won't come empty handed. I don't know we're going to eat,
- 52:23but there's a book waiting for you, and what am I The other
- 52:28thing is you're going to take another picture with me holding the book or you
- 52:30holding the book and me just be it, shaking your hand like they all
- 52:35do when they get it from me. So I love you, Steve.
- 52:37You're like to me, like a brother, And you know, just so
- 52:40great when you have an opportunity to meet colleagues that are as classy as you
- 52:44are. And again, you know now that you've had a chance to kind
- 52:46of take to hold your breath and take a breath fresh and air. Now,
- 52:52maybe we'll do some projects here and there and get you back out there
- 52:54in front of what you love to do, and that's talk to people.
- 52:57So what a treat has been A night on the MotorCity my mouth. My
- 53:00name was Scott Morgan V Motors any man mouth with Steve BALLISTERI who's a legend
- 53:05in his own way. But I don't mean it just so much as a
- 53:07writer, but as a military people folks if you can't appreciate a military person
- 53:12that has served their country, which I know a lot of people can do.
- 53:15This guy, to me, it is a veteran in more ways than
- 53:20one, but more importantly one of the biggest hearts. And you can learn
- 53:22a lot about what this guy and him and I have both had to adapt
- 53:27to old media and new media. And let's not kid ourself, Steve,
- 53:30things have changed with the communications departments have a day and how we are able
- 53:36to do our jobs. Yeah, that's a fact. I mean, you
- 53:39know, we're we're just trying to keep up, you know. Yeah,
- 53:45so you and Candy do a great job. And you know, you guys
- 53:50are are like I said aces in my book, and I really appreciate you
- 53:53having me on. And yeah, let's not wait as long to do it
- 53:59again. Well we won't. Don't worry you get old of Bob Associate.
- 54:02We'll be doing this sooner and you can your head. But more importantly,
- 54:06I am going to get over to your neck of the woods real soon after
- 54:08all this chaos. It is done somewhere around May, and we're going to
- 54:12get together. I'm gonna get you that book and we're going to hang out.
- 54:14So Meanwhile, that concludes this edition of the MotorCity Man Mouse Show.
- 54:17My name is Scott Morgan rough once again with Steve Vallistri. My book out
- 54:22there, Lessons from the Microphone, basically when you summer up old school media
- 54:24versus new school media and a whole lot more. Anybody can learn from it.
- 54:30Whether you're learning about the media, where you've been in it doesn't matter.
- 54:32Changes And I'll be writing a second part of it Laar the year,
- 54:35so Steve, Yeah, we'll be doing this again soon and of course we'll
- 54:38get together sooner sooner, so just see you know, folks, sports have
- 54:42changed, top of the hour. Thank you very much for joining us,
- 54:45and we'll see you in another edition. Does the Motor City Man Mouse Show
- 54:47next Wednesday? Haven't gonight? See you very shortly on the Sports Exchange.
- 54:52So the service and Steve, thank you. Thank you guys. Come