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Ep. 106 : August Player Of The Month PC · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome everybody to episode one oh six of
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  Speaker 1: Cards and Categories. I'm Mike cool I from Rasball, joined
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  Speaker 1: us always by my very good friend Jeremy Burr, also
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  Speaker 1: from Rasball. How are you doing tonight, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: I am doing well. Happy to be here. It's the
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  Speaker 2: season's starting to wind down about you, and then it
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  Speaker 2: feels like the news cycles slowing a little bit, so
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  Speaker 2: that's not as exciting, but it's okay. Still got a
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  Speaker 2: great episode ahead of this, so I'm I'm excited. I'm
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  Speaker 2: ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We are recording this on Thursday, September fourth, so
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  Speaker 1: a little bit off from our normal schedule on Wednesday nights.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean maybe part of the new cycle slowing
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  Speaker 1: down as we're speaking, actually like right during the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the kickoff of the Eagles Cowboys Thursday night football game,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe that's where sports media has been diverted to.
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  Speaker 1: But on top of it, too, the MLB playoff race
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  Speaker 1: is pretty set in terms of like that we know
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  Speaker 1: the teams are going to be there. The seeding is
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  Speaker 1: a little in fluctuation, but it's going to be maybe
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  Speaker 1: a bit of a boring month of September that we'll
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  Speaker 1: have some home run chases with cal Raley and others,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, in terms of locking up playoff seeds,
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  Speaker 1: nothing too intriguing. And I think part of it too
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  Speaker 1: is that, like September one used to be such a
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  Speaker 1: huge highlight I think on the baseball calendar when we
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  Speaker 1: expanded to the forty man rosters back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: Now it was a little much. The forty man was
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  Speaker 1: a little overkilled because then you get like those crazy
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  Speaker 1: bullpen games, which is like a march of minor leaguers
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  Speaker 1: getting out there and trying to find at bats, And
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  Speaker 1: especially for our fantasy game, it was rough because you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't really depend on anybody that was out of the
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  Speaker 1: playoff race to play pretty normally. We've only expanded to
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  Speaker 1: thirty man rosters here going to September September one this week,
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  Speaker 1: so certainly less of an impact. I've got linked in
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  Speaker 1: the show notes of what the call ups were. Anybody
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  Speaker 1: there actually kind of catch your eye because it is
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  Speaker 1: I would say it's also underwhelming, maybe based on what
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  Speaker 1: you've also said about the news cycle, but on top
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  Speaker 1: of it, but a bunch of I L returners kind
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  Speaker 1: of taking out those spots. So it's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a fancy shuffling with the IL around September first,
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  Speaker 1: But anybody actually on that list really catch your eye, Like, Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to seeing what this guy either does down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch or I might pick him up and add
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  Speaker 1: him to a roster at there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean most of the names are intriguing, are
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  Speaker 2: like yeah, being activated from the injuriers like that, that's
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  Speaker 2: the big group, like keg leone getting activated and you've
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  Speaker 2: got Meryrill getting activated, guys like that. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: if I was to kind of sneak under and I'm
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  Speaker 2: proably gonna steal some more thunder later, I'm sure if
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about it or not. But like Sal
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  Speaker 2: Stewart getting the call up for the Reds I think
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  Speaker 2: is intriguing. Definitely a good power speed combo. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: see how it plays. But he seems like he's a
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  Speaker 2: kind of a dynamite dude. Just if fits really well
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  Speaker 2: within the Reds lineup. You know, getting Lois angel Alcunya
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  Speaker 2: back from the Mets, I think is going to be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see how much you know, he really plays,
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  Speaker 2: and so you know, there's there's a few guys, one
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  Speaker 2: of your favorites, Linda of Vila for the Royals getting
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  Speaker 2: a chance to maybe make his metal. We'll see what
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  Speaker 2: see what happens there. But nobody too too big at
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  Speaker 2: this point. But there are a few guys. If I
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  Speaker 2: had to kind of put one that I'd want to
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  Speaker 2: add of my roster and see what's happening, I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be Sal Stewart for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's actually you shoehorn that perfectly in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the salth Stewart discussion, because that's why I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have his kind of like separate promotion to discuss,
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  Speaker 1: because he came up in that wave on September first.
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  Speaker 1: I think I agree that's probably the number one bat
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  Speaker 1: to pursue. He didn't necessarily have, Like I kind of
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  Speaker 1: cooled on him last year at first for Arizona after
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  Speaker 1: Eric Longenhangen kind of poop pooed his swing a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: He also poo pooed like Jack Caglion's swing, So that
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  Speaker 1: kind of played out. So we'll see how Stewart can
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  Speaker 1: hang at the big league level. But it'll be fun
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  Speaker 1: to see how it plays up there in Cincinnati and
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  Speaker 1: I think you hit the other ones. Kansas City called
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  Speaker 1: up three fun ones. Jack kg Leon coming back from
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  Speaker 1: the IL. I love Windo Revila. Hopefully he can get
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  Speaker 1: some starts down the stretch. You didn't touch on the
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  Speaker 1: other one though I missed.
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  Speaker 2: I missed the Kansas City boy, the homegrown boy there.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you talk about it, but I did miss
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  Speaker 2: that one here fair because I think.
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  Speaker 1: This is the other bat that's pretty intriguing in terms
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  Speaker 1: of uh. We got Carter Jensen coming up there. He
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  Speaker 1: did get the start tonight at DHS where he's playing,
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  Speaker 1: so it's gonna be his major league debut there. It'll
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  Speaker 1: be cool to see if the Royals do start doing this.
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  Speaker 1: Is like a new strategy that's kind of been kicked
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  Speaker 1: off this year too, between like the Braves doing it
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of other teams. The Rangers have been
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  Speaker 1: doing it a little bit. Has a and quite a
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  Speaker 1: successful of like having two hitting catchers and you switch
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  Speaker 1: them behind the dish and the other one plays a
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  Speaker 1: lot DH. I wonder if the Royals would do that
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  Speaker 1: with Carter Jensen and sal Perez, because that would be
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  Speaker 1: a really great option I think for them going into
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six to be able to get Jensen's bat
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  Speaker 1: in the actual lineup, and he crushed this year in
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  Speaker 1: the minor leagues. He's a twenty two year old just
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  Speaker 1: came up. So actually that's the guy I kind of
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  Speaker 1: wanted to see your take on with Carter Jensen, a
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  Speaker 1: catcher for the Royals there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right, Like he has a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good hit tool. I think it's gonna be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think his you know, from an actual like
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  Speaker 2: fielding perspective, he's like a massively amazing catcher. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's just kind of league average from what I've seen,
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  Speaker 2: But I think he has pretty sneaky power for a catcher,
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  Speaker 2: Like he did hit two ninety and twenty homers in
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  Speaker 2: one hundred eleven games in the miners this year. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that he's a two ninety hitter. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's he's going to be a maybe a little overmatch
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  Speaker 2: of the hit tool. It's not going to play as well.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think he's one of those guys that
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  Speaker 2: can easily run into twenty homers across a full season.
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  Speaker 2: You know, catch position being a little bit more painful
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  Speaker 2: and he's chips in a few sole and base. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's another trend that we're seeing with young catchers
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  Speaker 2: being a little bit more athletic and just you know,
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  Speaker 2: pitching in five ten stolen bases here and there, and
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  Speaker 2: it feels like Jensen has the capability to do that.
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  Speaker 2: So I do like what I see. I think there
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  Speaker 2: is some strikeout risk here, but he's also got that
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  Speaker 2: gets on base, so definitely obp leagues and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Jensen's got a nice up arrow here and it'll be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see what they do long term. Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: the Braves have a good strategy there with Murphy and
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  Speaker 2: Baldwin does the same thing here happened with Perez and Jensen,
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  Speaker 2: and if it does, like that's a good way to
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  Speaker 2: get one hundred and fifty games out of really strong,
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  Speaker 2: strong pats. And also from a pitching staff perspective, like
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  Speaker 2: I think you can't underestimate the relationship between a pitcher
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  Speaker 2: and a catcher and getting them matched up and things
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  Speaker 2: like that, and so there is just something that they
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  Speaker 2: clicks and then be able to miss mixmatch your starters
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  Speaker 2: with your catchers is probably also a big, big win
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. So before we dive into the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the news notes, certainly get into those show
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  Speaker 1: notes this pod because we are discussing our August Player
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  Speaker 1: of the Month PC picks. So if you're not familiar
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  Speaker 1: with this from it's a monthly tradition around here in
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  Speaker 1: terms of going back through Major League Baseball seeing who
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  Speaker 1: those players of the month were for the previous stretch
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  Speaker 1: of game. So we're talking August here, We're going to
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  Speaker 1: go through the al NL hitter, batter, rookie on each side.
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  Speaker 1: So what we do is we just kind of find
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  Speaker 1: one card out there, quote unquote put it in our
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  Speaker 1: pod PC. So use those show notes to go to
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  Speaker 1: rasball dot com check out the related link to this
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  Speaker 1: post or the post that goes with this pod, because
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  Speaker 1: you can see all the pictures of the cards there
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  Speaker 1: in one spot, and I'll be able to see all
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  Speaker 1: the other links to the show notes kind of all
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  Speaker 1: these pieces that we're going to discuss going forward, So
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  Speaker 1: check that out. Let's start with some of these other
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  Speaker 1: promotions that were not a part of that September first
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  Speaker 1: call up. First one we have is Peyton Toll in
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  Speaker 1: Boston getting the call up. The former TCU. Horned Frog
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  Speaker 1: was prick picked last year just in the second round,
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  Speaker 1: so pretty quick rise, and you can see why. The
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five stats blitzed through three levels, starting at
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  Speaker 1: High A, capping off obviously at TRIPAA before making this
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  Speaker 1: debut this past week. It was a dazzling debut two
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  Speaker 1: five and a third frames with a thirteen point five
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  Speaker 1: K nine. That's coming off of a three point zero
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  Speaker 1: four ERA over ninety one and two thirds innings in
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  Speaker 1: the minor leagues with just an incredible thirteen K nine.
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  Speaker 1: This is a guy who actually Baseball Prospectus said if
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  Speaker 1: they ever gave an eighty grade on a fastball, it
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  Speaker 1: might be Peyton Toll, just because it's got crazy spin
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  Speaker 1: on it. He really pumps it up there into the
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  Speaker 1: mid to upper nineties. You can see actually on the
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  Speaker 1: Stuff Plus on his Fangrass page one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: two Stuff Plus on that fastball. So the control here
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be I think the big key for Toll.
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  Speaker 1: You know that didn't come through in the Stuff Plus model,
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  Speaker 1: but it was obviously his debut. Everything look electric is
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  Speaker 1: Toll like the guy to own down the stretch even
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  Speaker 1: over like some of these other big arms we've talked about,
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  Speaker 1: like Jonah Toong and we're gonna talk about another one
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  Speaker 1: here coming out Brandon Sprout, Nolan McClain, would Toll actually
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  Speaker 1: be your number one? Like if you had to put
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  Speaker 1: all your chips in on one bid for a waiver wire.
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  Speaker 2: It would be close. I think it's between him and
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  Speaker 2: Nolan McClain For me right now, I think McClain it
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  Speaker 2: feels a little bit more polished than Toll. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how much you've watched Toll play, Like if
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna watch one of the guys this Toll all day,
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  Speaker 2: that guy is like if you if you took a
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  Speaker 2: Beer League softball guy and put him on the mound,
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  Speaker 2: it's Peyton Toll. Like. He doesn't look like he belongs.
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  Speaker 2: He looks like he should be, you know, hitting on
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  Speaker 2: a Sunday nights only type of thing. But I think
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  Speaker 2: he has you know, if if you're looking for strikeouts
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  Speaker 2: and things like that, that might that might give him
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  Speaker 2: the push. But I think McLain's a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: polished at this point, and so I would take take
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  Speaker 2: him there. That said, I think Toll like he he
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  Speaker 2: has risen through the miners fast, and like he has
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  Speaker 2: not meant found a challenge yet that he has not
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  Speaker 2: been able to overcome. And like this is purely in that,
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  Speaker 2: Like I have a fastball that is fast and unique,
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  Speaker 2: and I like he's got some extension on it, because
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  Speaker 2: you know, Peyton Toll is a big, big boy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know six six two fifteen. If I recall, like
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  Speaker 2: based on his release, he releases it more kind of
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  Speaker 2: like a seven footer, and so like, not only is
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  Speaker 2: he bringing in there like you know, ninety eight ninety
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  Speaker 2: nine at times, Uh, the extension it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like the Little League World Series where they pitch closer
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  Speaker 2: and they say it actually seems faster than they throw
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  Speaker 2: in it. I think that applies to Peyton Toll here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the calculation actually is, but it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is devastating. And the thing is you mentioned the control,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's two types of control, right, There's can you
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  Speaker 2: throw strikes? And then do you actually know within the
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  Speaker 2: zone where it's going. Toll seems like he can throw
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  Speaker 2: strikes like he is you know, throughout the minors, never
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  Speaker 2: had an issue with walks, and this whole minor league
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  Speaker 2: season he had pitched ninety one total innings and he
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  Speaker 2: had twenty three walks. So he keeps it in the zone,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a hard pitch shape to hit, and so
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  Speaker 2: people struggle with it. Now major league hitters gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a little bit better with that, So I think he's
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  Speaker 2: going to have to adapt to that. But there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot to like, a lot to like here. If I
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  Speaker 2: wanted a nitpick, it's he's a more of a one
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  Speaker 2: pitch pitcher, and he's still been figuring out the cutter
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  Speaker 2: and a few other things. But you know, I've seen
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  Speaker 2: some folks out there say that he's like the number
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  Speaker 2: one pitching prospect kind of right now, the way he
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  Speaker 2: has accelerated through the buyers, and I don't. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna refute that. So you put me on the spot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking McClain, But like buy a hair.
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  Speaker 1: I think I take Tong Toll than McClain personally, just
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  Speaker 1: because I like the right handed repertoire. It's a little
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  Speaker 1: more polished again, just kind of like McClain, but with
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  Speaker 1: Tong in terms of having the larger repertoire. Because the
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  Speaker 1: one thing that does kind of scare me about Toll
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  Speaker 1: is you know, being a southpaw Infantway Park with only
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  Speaker 1: a fastball. I mean, you are talking major league hitters.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna eventually run into a team that
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  Speaker 1: can kind of square it up. But it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: tough because, like you said, ninety ninth percentile and the extension,
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  Speaker 1: big old guy kind of bananas that he fell to
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  Speaker 1: the second round and roast so quickly. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of like a testament to the Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: pitching development and just scouting. I So I think if
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  Speaker 1: we did this over, he would be going well in
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  Speaker 1: the top half of the first round. But assuming any
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  Speaker 1: organization would be able to juice all this extra kind
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  Speaker 1: of profile out of Toll that the Red Sox have
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  Speaker 1: gotten so big, big time arm and crazy just considering
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  Speaker 1: where he started on lists at the beginning of this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, if you if you grabbed him, you should
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  Speaker 2: be very very happy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we'll talk about now Brandon Sprote from the
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  Speaker 1: New York Mets, who certainly started ahead of Toll, and
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  Speaker 1: any of these other guys that we've talked about before
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  Speaker 1: the season started. But it has been a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a tougher road for him. In Triple A, he's
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  Speaker 1: getting called up after one hundred and twenty one endings
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  Speaker 1: of a four to twenty four era. August has been
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  Speaker 1: especially rough twenty six innings of a four to eighty
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  Speaker 1: five ra as it kind of had the hallmarks of
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's just bored in Triple A and really
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  Speaker 1: kind of bummed that all of his friends around him
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  Speaker 1: got called up and he was the last one up.
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  Speaker 1: But with the Mets kind of trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what to do with the struggling code I Senga, sending
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  Speaker 1: him probably to the miners to get tuned up for
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  Speaker 1: the minor leagues opens up a spot for Sprote. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think he can be? Because do you think
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  Speaker 1: there is signal in the noise of his twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: five numbers there at Triple A where it hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: as sharp as McLean or Tong or Toll or do
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  Speaker 1: you think that this is a guy who now these
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  Speaker 1: in the majors might find a little bit of what
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  Speaker 1: he was putting up in previous season. So just as
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  Speaker 1: a as a marker, you know, he came across three
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  Speaker 1: levels in twenty twenty four and Sprote put up a
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  Speaker 1: three forty era of a one one, six and a
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  Speaker 1: third UH of innings of pitching. So this is a
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  Speaker 1: guy who was last year's McLain was last year's toll.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he can rEFInd that magic?
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  Speaker 2: I think to a degree he can. Like he he
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  Speaker 2: has been since like late June, he was actually lights
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  Speaker 2: out and he had made it some pitch mixed changes
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  Speaker 2: where he's kind of trade out some sinker sweeper for
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  Speaker 2: change curves, like he had been making actual changes in
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  Speaker 2: since late June. His era is like two and a half.
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  Speaker 2: You know, K rates thirty percent. You know, walks are
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  Speaker 2: still a bit of a concern. I you know, I
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  Speaker 2: actually was very surprised. I had him in one the
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  Speaker 2: league and dropped him, and I I just didn't think
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  Speaker 2: they were gonna call him up After calling up to McLain,
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't think that they were gonna gonna pull
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  Speaker 2: this one because I think that there is a larger
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  Speaker 2: variability in the outcome, like he It does seem like
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  Speaker 2: he's regressed a little bit, and I think he is.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff is still really really good, but it seems like
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  Speaker 2: it comes and goes a little bit more than some
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  Speaker 2: other pictures. So like the Polish isn't quite there of
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  Speaker 2: like what you see with like a tong or McLean
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  Speaker 2: at this point and this, yeah, I go back, we've
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  Speaker 2: talked with him before. I feel like for pictures, especially
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  Speaker 2: young prospects when they're when they're bowling to the minors,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta get him up because they need that taste
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  Speaker 2: of success and they need that coach at the big
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  Speaker 2: league level that's really gonna give him what they can.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think Sprouts struggled a little bit and
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  Speaker 2: then the miners, but he has found his way. So
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  Speaker 2: I still think overall, long term there's a positive outlook
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  Speaker 2: for him. But I do think I've got him maybe
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  Speaker 2: a tick below some of those other guys at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Just not sure that you know overall the the stuff
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  Speaker 2: is where we want to see, but I think it's
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  Speaker 2: relatively a high floor profile like it's I think that
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  Speaker 2: we're looking like a number like a back in three
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: top four, high four starter right now unless he can really,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: you know, take a step forward with his pitch mix.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: So yep, I think I'm right there with you. I mean,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I think great pickup because he's coming up, But I
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: wouldn't expect some of these right tail in outcomes that
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: come from Toll and Tong and McClain over the past
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. That's a solid stream pitcher, but sports
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: addable where you've got him. Okay, next call up we
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: have this is just gonna be a little bit of
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: a goofball segment just because we are Cardinals fans. I've
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: been looking forward to this one for a while. Jimmy Crooks,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two fourth round pick out of Oklahoma, is
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: making his MLB debut. I mean, has already got called
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: up this past week, coming on the heels of hitting
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: two seventy four, three thirty seven, four forty one. That's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a one zho four WRC plus with fourteen bombs in
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: ninety eight games at triple A. I think the surprising
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: here thing the surprising thing here is that the WRC
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: plus was above one hundred and triple A for Crooks.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: This is a guy who was a glove first kind
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: of set to be a backup in the major leagues,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: most likely because he is a fantastic backstop, great hands,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: can just really control a game. What do you have
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to say about Jimmy Crooks? Because I love this dude.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see him getting a shot, and honestly,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: he's made it so quickly as a twenty three year old,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: it's actually giving me some intrigue where there used to
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: be zero because this is the type of player who
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: we've talked about before, where if the glove, the glove
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: gets him in the lineup daily, and he's been young
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: enough to get there, to get the reps at major
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: league level, it could be somebody who in his late
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: twenties turns into a decent bat.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, I think I struggle to
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: evaluate because everything you said is right, But this year
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: has really shifted my view on the catcher position and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: what it takes to be valuable in the in the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in the fantasy game from a catcher position. First of all,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: you know Homer guy here, fa like, I'm excited to
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: see see what he brings. Uh. To your point, glove
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: first does a lot. But man, the guy's been hitting
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: this year and it's not been like, it's not been cheap,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: it's not been luck. You know, he's he's been able
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: to do some really good things. But you look out
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: a few years here and you see this guy that
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: might hit two sixty two seventy pp up ten to
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: fifteen home runs like that used to be something for
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: a catchers like yeah, I'll take that, you know back
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: in first you know, first catcher or you know, high
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: ends catcher number two. But I feel like that profile
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: is just not as valuable as it once was because
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: what we talked about earlier with teams starting to deploy
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: two very strong hitting catchers and so so I think
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: that's going to kind of downgrade the value of a
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: guy like Jimmy Crooks for what he can actually do.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: At the same time, I don't know if the Cardinals
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: know who is their catcher in the future right now.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I thought of them, but it seems like Raver can't
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: stay healthy controllers, isn't a catcher? Is what is he
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: gonna do? Like there there's a lot of questions behind
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the play there. So I actually hope he gets a
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: run because to your point, this is this is the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: epinion of what I love about, you know, the game
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: of baseball. Fourth round pick. He was never like a
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: highly regarded prospect. He was like, he's a top ten
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: prospect for the Cardinals, but like not big on prospects,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: less successful everywhere he goes get someone called in the minors,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and like, those are the guys that just continue to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: be successful and carve out a career. That's what I
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: love about the game. So I just hope he gets
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: a run to prove what he can do versus you know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: pin hitting here and there and catching every fourth day.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: But we'll see.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's a that's a great take.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to some injuries. So we
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: covered all the fun stuff. Let's get into the grim
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: stuff first. We're gonna start off with I mean, this
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: is a pretty big one, especially considering I think how
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: much he was carrying fantasy teams out there before the injury.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Outfielder Roman Anthony for the Boston Red Sox has been
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: placed on the il with an oblique strain. Seems like
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it's gonna keep him out four to six weeks, so
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I think we're probably done with Roman Anthony in fantasy.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But there's a decent chance he makes it back on
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the field for the playoffs for the real life Boston
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Red Sox, and if this does rap the season, it
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: was a pretty solid debut for Anthony. A two ninety two,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: three ninety six, four to sixty three slash line that's
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a one thirty eight WRC plus. Kept the strikeouts just
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in check enough with a twenty seven point seven percent
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: great walk rate, great eye thirty thirteen point two percent,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: eight homers, four Stonlee bases in seventy one games. You
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: go to the statcast page, the Savant page here for
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Roman Anthony, it's pretty beat red except for the whiff
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and the k rates. This is a guy who just
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: hits the crap out of the ball. I think we're
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: waiting maybe to see if the launch aingle kinning prease
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but even if it sticks where it is,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: it's a great profile. Where I'm going here, I think
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: with my question is in twenty twenty six, where do
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you feel comfortable drafting him? Because I think people will
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: see the beat red profile on Savant, They'll see the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: pretty good surface level stats. I mean a one forty
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: six WRC plus as that it was a one thirty eight.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Sorry for juicing it by eight points, but one thirty
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: eight WRC plus is gonna really pop out as a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: twenty one year old. So do you think this is
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: somebody you feel comfortable creeping into the second round with
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: or is it someone who you just need another year
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: before you feel okay getting into that mode of the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: second round pick.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you could be pretty comfortable. And I'm
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna make a comp here. I'm checking one
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: thing before I make this. This comp really really stick
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: because I want to see the stat cat's page. But
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: if we look at last year, so romote Anthony this
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: year in seventy one games, eight homers, four steals, two
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two average, you know he's thirteen twenty
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: k rate. I'm sure you memorized all that right. Last
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: year seventy nine games, nine homers, fourteen steals to sixty
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: four average, twelve percent walk rate, twenty nine percent k
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: rate for WRC plus of one twenty. And I think
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: what Anthony was one thirty eight. So relatively similar. That
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: was James Wood. And if you look at their Savant pages,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: and also the number one comp from a Savant in
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: perspective is James Wood for romone Anthony, and it is uncanny.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: They are very very similar. They whiff a lot, they
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: strike out a lot, they hit the ball incredibly hard.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: They run, but they're not the most sufficient at doing
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: it type of thing. And James Woods what a second
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: third rounder, right, that's where he is, and they both
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: have the same issue with they hit the ball on
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the ground too much, and so like that's your comprede there.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: It's very very clear. And the reason I say second
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: third rounder because they are going to both be held
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: back by that same issue too many grounders, both of
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: them fifty percent ground ball rates. They are hit the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: ball incredibly hard on the ground, but it needs to
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: go in the air to leave the park. The extra
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: base hits, all all of those things. I know, I'm
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: just a physicistic the degrees I needed to be on
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: this podcast, but I think that that's the comp that's
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the value, and I don't have any qualms drafting Anthony
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: in that position. I will take James Wood over Anthony,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: just be very clear with the one additional year of development.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: But I think they're kind of almost back to back
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: in the draft next year.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure you're gonna get that choice. I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: think what's going to be in the first round. But yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I think I'm right there with you because it also
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it reminds me a little bit of like, yeah, better
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: than Jackson Merril too, that this is you just watched
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: this guy play Anthony and you just kind of see
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the balls off the bat. It's pretty special stuff. So
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I think I'm right there with you, probably in the
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: two three turn, but I think he's gonna get pushed
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: up to early second round, and at that point it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: going to become tough because then you're talking like crazy
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: volume guys and like you know, Lindors and Machados, and it's.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Kind of like shorbers and stuff, Like you're gonna say,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Kyle Rally is gonna be sitting there. I wouldn't raft
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: be very clear, but he's gonna be sitting there, Like
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you're gonna start to get into that, like guys are
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: doing crazy things and until they can make that switch,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: which you know, both of these guys like that's been
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the entire minor league and major league career has been
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: this kind of one achilles heel, which is not a
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: bad thing to be hitting line drives and ground balls. Like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: let's be clear, from a baseball perspective, it's it's it's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: not a big big deal, but from a fantasy game,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: it does cap the upside a little bit. And both
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of these guys, I think long term they're gonna stop
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: running as much, and so they're gonna need to figure
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: out the power out of one of their game to
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: keep in that, you know, early second round conversation.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean the nice thing too with Wood
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: and Anthony is the batting average floor is much higher
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: than I think you would expect it to be because
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: they do hit the snot out of the ball. When
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: they do hit the ground balls, they're impossible to field.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: So that's a I think kind.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: They make it through like shift or not, they're making
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: it through exactly.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's move on to the injuries to somebody
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: who was probably used to be floating in that second
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and third round discussion. I I think it's probably done
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: at this point because Corey Seger's kind of moved into
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that Byron Buxton face of where like, you've got a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the stats are great, but you've got to like only
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: put up like one hundred games on his projection every year.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, one hundred hundred and twenty. He
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: wrapped this year at one O two then when it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: underwent an appendectomy this past week, so technically he could
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: make it back. The Rangers have like a twelve percent
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: playoff chance I just don't know if they're gonna want
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to risk it with Corey Seeger considering this is a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: guy who has also had like a couple of other
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: abdomen injuries and like a couple of hernia injuries and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: back injuries, and like, there's no reason I think to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: really have the Rangers rushing back, especially considering it's under
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: contract through twenty thirty one, so that'll be a fun
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: end of the contract for the Rangers. But if it
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: is the end of the season two seventy one, three
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: seventy three, forty seven, one thirty six WRC plus twenty
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: one homers. Are you there with me on Seeger in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: terms of this is a guy you've got to give
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the Buckston treatment? Are you still believing?
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: No, I'm I'm there, Like I bought him into Secer
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: this year a little bit, and it's just been a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: headache the whole year. Like the thing is, it's not
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: like Buckston at least when he gets hurt, Like it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: just hurt and he's out for like a month and
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: then he's back. Seger, It's just like, come on, it
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: happened Dect to me. Like it's just been like he's
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: on the il he's back off, he's on again. Like it,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: it's been very very hard to manage it. The results
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: are still there, like he's still a great hitter, all
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: those things still flow through with it. The power is
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: slightly down this year, and all that comes down to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: is he was hitting a few less fly balls, so
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: that that just translated just slightly. But the quality of
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: hitter has not changed, but you do have to start
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to downgrade that a little bit. The hard part with
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the guy like Seeger is you can expect a little
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: bit more batting average out of him, which is like
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: really hard to find in that kind of like i'd
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: say mid single digits draft routes and like the four
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: five six, like you get there, Like getting batting average
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: with good runs, good RBIs and home runs like that
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: is a you want that and it is so tempting
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: to draft him, but like you're right, I think you
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: now just have to put him in for one hundred
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: and ten, one hundred and twenty games every year and
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that's what your expectation should be.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also no speed, Like it's starting to
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: really morph pretty quickly into like a Carlos Korea profile
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: even too, where it's like the cliff can be really dangerous,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: really fast if there's no speed, So like, yeah, I'll
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: be fascinating to see where he goes in drafts. I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: think there'll probably be some rooms where he really really
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: falls because so many people over the years have been
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: burnt by an injured seeker year. But it's also it
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: only takes one or two believers to see this projection
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and move secret at the draft board.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think this is the kind of
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: guy that you should not be shocked if he also
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: turns into a healthy season, hits forty homers and hits
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: three ten right. I think that's that's the problem with
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Secret is that it's like he absolutely could do that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: You just can't count on that. And all it takes,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to your point is one guy who listens to me
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: say that goes and drafts Someone's like, oh, well you overpaid, right,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Uh So I don't have a problem with him on
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: your team as long as you've planned around it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to our next injury. It's a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: bit of a gruesome one, as Lortis Gurriel Junior towards
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: acl and had to be carted off from the field
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: over this past week and I'm gonna wrap up his season. Obviously,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: it was a two forty eight two ninety five four
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: eighteen slash line finally slip below the WRC plus mark
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of one hundred for the first time in his career.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: But it also came with nineteen homers, ten stone bases,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and ad RBI, which is I've always loved Guryel because
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of like his price and drafts, and this is the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: type of guy who makes like a perfect fourth or
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: fifth outfielder where hits two seventy five eighteen to twenty
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: two homers, eighty RBI, handful of steals. You really need
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that production from Guryel over an entire season to be
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: able to compete in fantasy leagues. It's just consistent, day in,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: day out production. Unfortunately, I think we have to put
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a close on that era of Lord is Guriel because
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he is going to be thirty two next year starting.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: He turned thirty two in October, so it's gonna be
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the backside of his career and he's only got one
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: more year there or in Arizona, So the park boost
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: is going to be leaving us from Guryel as well.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: So are you there with me on Guryel in terms
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of like not finding him quite as dependable going forward,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: or the other option two is do you maybe have
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: somebody in mind who could be new Guryel Where I mean,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: this guy has been doing it since like twenty teenish,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you know, when he was twenty five almost six seven
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: years of just great, steady production for cheap for Guryel.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: These dudes are hard to find, and as you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: he's on my Auto Neew team, so it's been great
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: in formats where you have five outfielders like autonew these
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: dudes are much more valuable than you think because they
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: just play every day. So thoughts on Guryel, thoughts on
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: possible replacements that could rise up and be that cheap
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: option in the future.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm going to disagree with you a
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: little bit that he you know, it's kind of the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: rides kind of over, because I think maybe the production
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and the decrease that you're expecting is going to come
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: back in line with what he's been had. The payments
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: had to be at the draft table for him. I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: think he's he's always been that afterthought because he just
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: hasn't been enough that it'll drops a little bit and
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: people are, you know, still drafting the same spot. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: don't think you're too far off from an overall value perspective.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: And you know, he's still made progress the plate. He
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: just he had a really bad David Peer, so that
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: dragged him down. So I'm still willing to give him
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt for a few more years.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: If you want to try to pigeonhole somebody into that,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, look a little farther we talked about earlier.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: The guy like Sal Stewart feels very much like Guriell,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: like not gonna light the world on fire. You can
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: do anything crazy there, but like you're gonna turn around
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: like the guy hit decently, still picked a few bases up,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: hit a few homers, like I think it's that that
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: kind of guy. So I'm I'm willing to give him
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: another another year or two on Guriella and be excited
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: about it. But excited means the fourth outfielder excited. So
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that's a little a little ding there, But if the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: price is right, I'm still fine with it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I actually seweart it's a great call because
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you also get that ballpark boost in Cincinnati, So yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that's a key aspect to it is like finding a
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: good home ballpark and it's just cheaper. Okay, let's move
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: on to you a couple of injured closers. We have
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Trevor McGill going down in Milwaukee with a flexer strain.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: That brings Abner Eurebay, who's been really lights out this year.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: It's been a one to eighty seven ARRA over a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: sixty seven and a third innings with ten point eight
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: K nine. What is the walk minus B or the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: K minus BB's at twenty point four percent for eu Rebay,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: which has just been really great considering how bad his
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: control was the first two years of his career. Then
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco, we have Brandy Rodriguez unfortunately going down
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: with a Tommy John surgery, which was a huge bummer
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: because he had a breakout season there for San Francisco
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and it was just a two pitch mix, which is
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy, but two super elite offerings led to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: a one c NB eight ERA over fifty to two
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: thirds innings and was the closer. But now that job
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: goes to Ryan Walker. Question, here is a difference between
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Urubay and Walk in terms of your rankings and I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: would think that you would probably prefer you Rebay because
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: both Walker and you Rebay are going to go down.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: The stretch is probably the closers. I don't see Miguel
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: getting back here pretty quick. But is the gap so
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: significant that you're willing to really kind of but I mean,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: is it a close enough gap where you feel comfortable
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: still going through and getting Walker?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so like you're absolutely right after your Rebay is
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the pick up here? Like he's looked unbelievable all year.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Stat Gas is like pure red ironically very similar around
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Walker is twenty twenty four if you actually made the compsunny,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: they're very, very similar. But you do have to also
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: admit that Walker has you know, he's he struggled at
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the year. He has some just really
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a rough look. But since like the beginning of the
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you know, I would say maybe at the beginning of summer,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: but like beginning of July has been absolutely dominant. He
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: has a he's been he's only twenty two millions. I
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: get a reliever, right, But ten k for nine two
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: walk per nine, that's an area of one point six
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: four with a two point one four FIP ground balls
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: a fifty five percent of the time. Walker has been
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: phenomenal as well, And so the question is the gap
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: that big? Like I don't think the gap is as
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: big as people think. And so I actually really interested
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: in Walker for next year because I think he's a sneak.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: He like when he lost his job, he didn't deserve
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: to lose his job, in my opinion, Like he had
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: a few bad luckoutings, they were kind of spread like
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: it just I think people get caught up in the
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: early season roller coaster of relievers aren't always perfect in
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: all times, and he got the short end of the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: stick and they tried to bring to a ball and
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: like all these things, like let's not do that. Ryan
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Walker should be the closer for the Giants. But that's
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: not to take anything away from Avnerribe, who is absolutely
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the pick up here if you're looking at the rest
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: of the season, and I I think, like if he
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: proves it, like the he I think he's a closer
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: for twenty six for the Brewers because this is a
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: team that loves to trade away the assets at the
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: top of their value. And you know McGill's he's not
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a spring chicken anymore. Like but they would not be
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: surprised to look them to capitalize on him, get some
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: value out of him, and then move on. So love
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: them both taking your rebay, but the GAP's not nearly
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: as big as people think.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a pretty good point. Okay. Last
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: news piece that we have is that Hassiung Kim was
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: recently put on the irrevocable waivers or whatever it is
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that happens in August from the Tampa Bay Rays. So
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: this one kind of came as a shock because I
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: think there's tons of names that are going through this
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: waiver system, and it used to be that it felt
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: like they would constantly be reported on, but it does
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: also feel like that has chilled out and mellowed over
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the past few years. As you know, reporters have also
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: really that most of these guys either go unclaimed or
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: when they do get claimed, I think you still get
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the chance as the team to like pull them back
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and say, like, nevermind, we were just seeing somebody would
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: take the contract. Kim actually went through the process, landed
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: with the Braves, reuniting with Jerks, and Profar has already
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: popped at Tater now with the Braves obviously because he
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: was reunited with his bff Jerks and Profar. If you're
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: not familiar with this, I've got a link to it
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: in the show notes where these two Profar and Kim
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: were like best buds of all time when they were
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: on the padres together, they like hung out all the
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: time and they just really bonded. So honestly, in the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: off season there was a lot of speculation that they
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: would both go to Atlanta after I think Profar signed first,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: or it was the other way around, but essentially, like
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously, you know, it's only one way or
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the other. So whereever one signed, the other was speculated
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to go there because of them being such good friends.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Is this something you actually consider at all for pantasy,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: like the soft side stuff. I know you've got all
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: your spreadsheets and all your algorithms set up and all
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: your interfaces scraping from Baseball savant and stuff, But do
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you ever have like a press the Botton sort of
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: tago where like a happiness factor or something like that,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Or is this maybe warranting you thinking about developing that
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: after you've seen that tato that hasan Kim has hit
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: for the Braves.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say, like to a degree, yes, that that
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: is there. Like I think anybody that's played competitive sports
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: knows that there's a huge mental aspect of it. And
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: you know, baseball is a grind. It is a grind.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: And if you if you are not comfortable and you're
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: trying to hit one hundred mile hour fastball and you
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: just don't have the confidence, you don't feel like you belong,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: like you're there's certain guys that are trying to prove
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: they belong, certain guys that know they belong. And if
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: you know you belong, you perform a lot better Because
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you don't, You're not worried about keeping your job, You're
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: not worried about those things like if you're having fun,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: like you're just you know, your teammate, you have a
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: bad day, your teammates carry like that goes a long way.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: So I do think that there's an element of that.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: That's why you sometimes see, you know, guys, let's call
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: it Andrew Vaughn, let's call it right right now. Sometimes
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you just need that change of scenery and you just
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: need to feel wanted, in control and belonging. And you know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I think we even said when Andre Vaughan got moved
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: was like, maybe this is what he needs, is just
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: a fresh start, and then I've still refuse to believe it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: But it's a whole different issue. So I do think
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you're right, like I say, at the same time, but
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: like for hass On Kim, I actually like him regardless
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of that. I think there's talent there and clearly the
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Braves believe that because he's They took on his contract
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: which includes a mutual or not a mutual, a player
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: option for next year at a pretty hefty like sixteen million,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: So he is their short stop next year, Like that's
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: who he is. They've already made that decision, and so
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: he's got to feel comfortable. And he's a good fielder,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: he's he's a good hitter like and he's just never meshed,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: never fit in Tampa. So I actually like this. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: think Young Kim high Sung Kim hast you On Kim
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: is a valuable, intriguing asset for for next year.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. And I mean this
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Braves team is going to be the easiest like comeback
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: pick of next year in terms of that's the entire
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: like minor league systems loaded with arms. As long as
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: they don't fall on their face out the gates again.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I mean they've been playing really well down the second half,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: like they've been one of the best teams they end now, right,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: So Iglesias one of the reliever of the of the
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Month award in August, like I recall, yeah, actually surprised
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: he didn't win the Player of the Month, but yeah,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be I think a great call out that
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it's going to be really cheap now that Hasan Kim
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: looked so cooked in Tampa, but with the Braves, I
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: think you could see quite the renaissance for him. Okay, well,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: we alluded a little bit to those Player of the
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Month PC picks that we're going to be making here,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: But before we get into that, we got a few
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: updates to the Baseball release calendar. Baseball Card release calendar,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: check the show notes for that. We've just got a
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: little bit shuffling in terms of pinning Prison Pop back
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: in the schedule for mid September. They pushed back Bowman
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Chrome to the end of September, and they also pushed
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: up Tops Tier one. I think it was originally supposed
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to be nine thirteen, but it's now set for Wednesday,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: release next week on nine ten. So that's a pretty
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: major high end product that people like just in terms
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: of what can be pulled. You're in year out from
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: tier one, but check out that Baseball card release schedule
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for any of those. We'll probably out
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of all of them, have the biggest focus on Bowman
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Krome going forward, just because it is a pretty major
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: tent pole release for the Baseball card calendar. With that,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a short break here and we'll be
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: back to talk about those August Player of the Month's
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: selections and make PC picks stick around. All right, Welcome back, everybody.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: We are going to discuss August twenty twenty five Players
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of the Month and MLB make some pod PC picks
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: for each of them. If you're not familiar with how
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: this works, what we do is we discuss who won
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the Player of the Month for AL and NL Batter
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: of the Month, Picture of the Month, Rookie of the Month,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and then what we do is quote unquote pick some
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: cards for each player to put them into our PC
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: for the you can get show in the show notes
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: to we'll have links to one the article that announced
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: these players winning the Award two. You also have their
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the link to all of our historic PC picks. So
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: with this we are going to be eclipsing the one
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: hundred and we're gonna be nearing in on two hundred
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: cards for this PC after this pod. So we've got
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: some fun ones in there from you know, classics like
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: show Heyo Tani all the way down to Isaac Collins
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: last month. So this month is another fun month if
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you've if you're checking this out for the first time.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Typically what we do is we just pick another show
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Heyo Tani or Aaron Judge card to put in because
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: they seem to win this like every month. This we
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: this month we've got some good variations, so we've got
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: some fun players to discuss, some fun cards to discuss. Again,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for one stop shop of seeing all
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: these cards in action at once, go to rasball dot
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: com check out the post that goes with this pod.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: They'll all be posted there, or you can also click
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: through those show notes and look at these one by one.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: So let's start with the al This honestly totally caught
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: me off guard because I had no idea that he
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: was doing this through the other throughout the month of August.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But shay Leangaliers from the Athletics is your hitter of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the month. In the al he put up a six
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to sixty one slugging percentage and a nine to sixty
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: eight ops hit eleven homers, including a five game or
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: a five hit game against the Nats on August fifth,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: put up twenty two runs, and as the MLB dot
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Com article says, he was Shay Bengaliers for sure. An
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: incredible month for him. Also another one of those dudes.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: We might have to change the Jake Berger scale to
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the shay Leangaliers scale in terms of the speed on,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: savant but fun player all around. Some good picks from
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: his days with the Braves and the days with the Athletics.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Brew where did you go for the show pick?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said the leading thing of from the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Braves and the Athletics because that's where I tried to
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: go with my card because he was came over that
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Matt Olsen trade. So I'm gonna go with I don't know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: we've actually dug into this set very much. I'm gonna
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: go with Leaf Trinity. So I'm gonna go with this
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen Leaf Trinity Patch Auto, which is considered his
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: rookie card from Leaf. And the reason I love this
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: card is if you don't know, Shae lang Lears was
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: a Baylor Bear in college, which happens to share the
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: same color scheme as the athletics and so on the card,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: he's in what appears to be unlicensed athletics gear, but
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: it's a patch from the Braves, and so it's just
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: like bringing the two together. And Leaf Trinity is one
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: of the best like unlicensed rookie patch auto cards out there.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: You know, we have Inception, we have other things in tops,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: but from an unlicensed like they are the kind of
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: the premium pat rookie patch auto card in the baseball game.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: So great auto on card Auto available right now on
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: eBay for a whole forty three dollars, so not too
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: too hard to come by. But and check out Leaf Trendy.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: There's kind of cool things. There's ones where they actually
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: write little messages. He has ones that says a go
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Baylor Bears or number whatever draft pick from from twenty eighteen,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I believe, and so like really really cool fun set.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: But I just I love the dynamic of having the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Braves patch and what appears to be like the prediction
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: of being athletics, I mean, and his you know, quote
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: unquote athletics gear actually the Baylor Bears. So definitely definitely
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: a fun like quirky and gimmick on this one.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think this is a great pick. You can't
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: go wrong with these leaf trendys. They pick great patches
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: and great price point. I think actually that's probably gonna
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: be the theme of this August player at the month
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: PC picks is great price point.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Very I may have abuse that one or two times,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: but still overall you're fair. So that's where I went.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Where did you go with Shaye Bengaliers?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: All right? Well, I went to his rookie year of
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three because he was in the league for
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: a couple of years there and then kind of took
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit before he actually got his Rookie of
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the Year cards, or not Rookie of the Year cards,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: his just rookie cards overall. So I'm gonna go to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I'm gonna go with tops cosmic chrome
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: just because it's a banana set and one thing that
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I think we always love about the athletics when they
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: come up here. We did this with Nick Kurtz when
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: he's been in the PC picks recently. Is there are
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: fewer teams that look great in a color match than
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the A's between the yellow and the green. So I'm
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: going with the green Space Dust Refractor of seventy five,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the one I found. It's only twenty five bucks to
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: get the one of seventy five, so a pretty great
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: deal and it's a cheap card overall. Just this. If
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you need to go look at the website for one
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: picture that we've got connected to, I would go for
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: this one because it's like a combination of like a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Lisa Frank Space scene on a folder with a lava
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: lamp with just like green sparkle slapped all over it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: It's just fun and funky. And I'm sure this one
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: absolutely slaps in real life too, like the way that
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: the sparkles just kind of shoot off of these cosmic
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: chrome cards as well as like there's a couple of
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: layers of refractory you can see two between the sparkle
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: and some plus signs and all sorts of just gadgets
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: and features would look great, and honestly, any collection because
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: it's gonna pop the green with the athletics. That's where
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I went for lingle years.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I love this pic. I think Cosmic Chrome is like
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: of all the things with kind of the you know,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: the mini card boom of the last few years where
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Tops try to make a little bit of a money play.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Cosmic Chrome is one of the great things that came
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: out of it, because that is just an unbelievable set
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: every year. The pictures are great, the artwork is great.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: It is really fun. For everything that they did with
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: like a logo fractor or all Star foils or things
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: like that, they hit one here with Cosmic Chrome and
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: this is a great, great color match. And I love
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: your description the lava lamp because's exactly what I was thinking.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I looked at this card. It's got that lava lamp feel,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: even though it's not labeled as a lava lamp card.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: So great, great pick. It's all as in budget. These
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: are fun ones. We could actually put these in our
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: PC as opposed to pretty much everything else we've talked about.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does make it a little more affordable
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: when you're not talking Judge and Otani. But all right,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: let's move on to the nlside. Because this is the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: guy who did probably just edge out Michael Harris. We're
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: talking second basement Bryce Terrang from the Milwaukee Brewers. We
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: called this actually early on we noticed the change in
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: his profile in terms of him starting to really clabber
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the ball. It hadn't really materialized until August. In August,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Terrang put up a three forty three three ninety eight
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: six ninety four slash line. That's a two hundred WRC
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: plus over one hundred and eighteen at bats or played appearances.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: That is, ten of his seventeen homers that he's hit
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: this year came in August. Another one of those seventeen
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: already came in September. So he's found the powerstroke. Gonna
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: probably end up being the most valuable second basement when
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: it's all sudden done on the year. Currently up to
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: twenty four point two dollars on our player raider on
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: ras Bolt. So hopefully you listen to us early on
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the season when we said this was a dude to
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: acquire because he's coming through in the clutch quite a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: few baseball cars. Because he was a first rounder back
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, was on the high school circuit and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: so and so forth. So where did you go for
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Bryce Terrang to put in the PC?
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Oh? This, I had fun with this one. So I
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: went and I don't do a ton of research on
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: this one, but I went with the what was called
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: out as the Milwaukee Brewers Police first Edition baseball card.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: And I've got to figure out where these came up.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: It looks like a game giveaway or something like that,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: but it is. Yeah, I think it's a game. It's
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: got to be a game giveaway like it, you know
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: that they give away a pack of cards thing. But
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: it's basically Bryce String as a comic, as part of
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: a comic book cover, and it's got him. It's like
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: if he makes me think of the flash back in
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the day, he's got the speed. They nicknamed him the
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: brew blur on it. It's you know, it looks to
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: be Milwaukee issue number two, you know. And then he's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: quoted on there and the comic book, you know, a
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: little quote bubble saying speed isn't how just how fast
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: you move, it's how fast you think. And then if
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: you want some fun, just read the back of the card.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Is unbelievable, just the way it talks about you know,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's his quick reflexes and faster decision making him unstoppable.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Speed'sn't just his weapon, it's mindset. Like it's just this,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: like somebody has so much fun making this card and
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I've never seen it before, and it's just so quirky,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: so gimmicky that it's you gotta have it. You got
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to own this type of card. And there's probably no
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: value here, like it's on eBay for auction right now,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: there's no bids, Like it's probably like a three dollars card,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Like you said, you get it as a giveaway, but
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: it's just just so fun. So I h we didn't
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: go to the miners this time. We just went to
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: a stadium giveaway.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't tell if it's like a stadium giveaway
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: or like a separate sales sort of thing. If anybody's
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: got some background research on that, certainly drop us a line.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: But this is a great pick. I don't think you
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: can ever go go bad with like kind of superhero
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: baseball card crossovers.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: They always bang absolutely, so, uh, where one up me?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: How can you one up the superhero? The brew blur
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: that is Bryce tering?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna go. We just kind of
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: talked about this set recently because hit shelves and I'm
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: gonna go actually to twenty twenty five Tops Archive Signature series,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: which if you recall, it's actually a product where you
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: get one card in your pack and that card is
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: a re covered like card from the wild, where they
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: bring it in, have the player sign it, restamp it,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: put it back out into the wild. That's what this is.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: But it's a Bryce Terring twenty twenty three Tops Finest
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: refractor that he is autographed, so it's the one of
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: one version from twenty twenty five. I think that the
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: eBay sellers being a little bit you know, optimistic on
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: what he's listened for thirty five hundred bucks. This is
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: probably like a three hundred dollars card, So good luck
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: to that eBay seller trying to move this thing. What
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I love about it is one twenty twenty three Tops
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Finest was a sick Tops Finus set. The geometric shapes
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: that they had going on in the background are just
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: really top notch, really pushed it to what Tops Finest
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: is in the modern day. But what I love for
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: this terrain card is Dude, he's swinging for the fences
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty three, like he wants it to
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: hit Taters even though he stole you know, fifty plus
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: bags last year. Came into this season and just announced
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: that he's going to be a power hitter now for
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: the Brewers. And maybe we should have seen it because
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: this card and a lot of his other rookie cards,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: he is really swinging out of his shoes. Love the
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: high socks here for Bryce Terrang. Just an unbeatable card
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: if you're a Brewers and Bryce Terring fan.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a good call. A little pricing
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: probably a little optimistic on that, but the top finest
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: stuff just hits. It's just it's just so clean, such
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: good cards. That's the set that they do a really
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: really good job with. And if you did, if this
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: was the one card you gotta out of your arc, guys,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: signs just hereious box, you're doing just fine. So I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: think this is a good pick.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, Well let's move on to those pictures because
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: you want to talk another surprise guy in the al
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: We have Baltimore oriole starter Trevor Rodgers, who was laughed
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: out of town pretty much when the O was traded
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: for him at last year's trade deadline. He's looked like
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: a cy young level pitcher. In August, he put up
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: a one thirty two ERA supported by a two to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: eleven FIP, So it wasn't a joke because it came
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: with a thirty three to six K or K to
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: BB rate, which is immaculate for Trevor Rodgers in thirty
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: four innings, went four and over his five starts. This
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: is a guy who it still feels weird like rolling
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: him out every start because of those five starts, four
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: of them came against Philadelphia, Seattle, Boston. The last one
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: was at San Francisco. But I've got him in a
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: couple spots and it felt really strange rolling Rogers out
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: in every one of those starts. But man, it's worked.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: It's looked fantastic. I going to be confounding to see
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: where he goes next year because it's just like a
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: command to control lefty with a huge ground ball rate
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: that that's not what he's ever been. So you're trying
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: to like analyze that all with the Baltimore of it all.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: He's going to be a fantastic picture, I think, because
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: he's just figured something out. We haven't talked much about Rogers.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I want to get your take on him, because he's
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: just kind of the rise has been so New York.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: We haven't even been like had a spot or an
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about it.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's one of those odd things that like
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: we I think last year we talked about it so
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: much about like what Baltimore gave up and how like
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: terribly they lost that trade and all these things, and
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: this was like, wait a second, he's actually kind of
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: figuring things out. Like I don't know that it like
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: we can't fully buy into this, Like, you know, he's
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: had a lot of luck, Like, let's let's be frankly,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: he's he's leaving on guys on base in the eighty
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: six percent clip, which is just unbelievable his baby of
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: two nineteen, Like, but the country has really really improved
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: this year, so like he seems like he's made some
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: adjustments there as well, lucky with home run for fly
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: ball rates and things like that. I think it's I
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: think he's on a hot streak overall right now, I
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: think is really what it comes down to. But you know,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: I do think this is also one of those where
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I think he's made a little bit of
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: adjustment in his overall pitch mix. It seems to be
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: kind of playing out and like guys are not barreling
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: up as well, ex of velocities down a little bit,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Like it seems that he has matured as a pitcher.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: But overall, I'm like, it definitely feels a little bit
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: more like a mirage. And so if you're talking like
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: a mid threes to four's e er a type of guy,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I could probably buy that. We're not talking about the
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: you know, low ones eer a kind of guy here,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: so a lot there's there's a lot to like, but
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I think that there's some regression coming coming. But for now,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: ride the wave.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And actually those numbers were
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: even better than like side because he had six starts
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and I missed the one on August first. In my
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: summary of the game log that was at Chicago. It's
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: actually his best game eight k's over eight innings. I
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: didn't start that one, which is part of it too,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: because I was like, nah, h, like the wind was
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: going that day and he just like totally annihilated the Cubs.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So I think I'm probably gonna end up with spots
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: with him next year because I love just crafty lefties
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like this, and even that he's a six foot five,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: two seventeen guy kind of reminds me almost as like
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: early thirties Kershaw sort of profile, which if he can
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: be that, that's otherworldly.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: For Rogers, I'm not quite there. I'll i'll if you want.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: If we're gonna twist my arm, you can have them.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: If you're gonna ca him Kershaw.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Sofy that with an early thirties Kershaw very heavily. Okay,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: But let's get into some card picks here. So we've
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: got quite a few between Miami and not very many
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: on the Baltimore side. Where did you go?
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I went with a I'm gonna stretch it here.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: You said Miami, you said Baltimore. I'm gonna stretch it
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: and go with his Pittsburgh Pirate version. Bear with me.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going with his twenty eighteen Greensboro Grasshoppers choice card.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: That's when he was playing for the Greensboro Grasshoppers out
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: in North Carolina, who are the Pirates affiliate. That's where
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Connor Griffin is right now, but used to be the
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Marlins affiliate and up until twenty nineteen when they moved
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: on from them the Marlins and linked up with the Pirates.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: That's the fun of minor league baseball, if you ever
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: want to get into that. But Trevor Rodgers had his
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: choice twenty eighteen. What you might argue is kind of
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: a rookie card for the Greensboro Grasshoppers, and first of all,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: is just the Grasshoppers. And I just love the stat
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: line in the back of his card twenty seventeen did
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: not play. It's not zero or anything, just didn't play.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, I just thought it was fun
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: to dig in find one of those it's listening, and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: the listening we'll have the show notes because that has
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: the back of the card, which is kind of fun
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: just listen for like twenty bucks, but like you can
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: get for two bucks on eBay.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: It is not a crazy card anywhere. I just thought
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: it was really fun, like he has taken kind of
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: a winding journey, being kind of unknown with the Marlins
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: coming up, and I didn't want there's not much out
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: there in a Baltimore Jersey. He isn't really a Marlins guy.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: So I went with the Pittsburgh version, which is kind
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: of cheating because it wasn't actually the Pittsburgh version, but hey,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: I could claim it, so it was fun.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I like it. I think it's a great pick. Well,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I did pick the one Orioles card that we had
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: because he hasn't had any cards in twenty twenty five yet,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers, so if you want a card of him
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: in an Oriole's uniform, you've got to go to twenty
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: twenty four tops Chrome update. And we haven't put in
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: a negative refractor for a while. I thought this was
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: a good spot to put a negative refractor. These things
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: are super rare. The one I found is a dollar
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: fifty on eBay. That's a steal. So if you're an
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Orioles fan, goes snatch this up. Because a great way
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: to commemorate this Trevor Rodgers August run for a couple
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: of bucks that this is a card that no negative
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: refractor should honestly be going for less than ten bucks
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: based on rarity, but it is right now, and I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: thought it was fitting because coming into this season, all
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: of the stuff about Trevor Rodgers was negative and he's
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: kind of reversed. Course, if you're not familiar with what
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: the negative refractor is. It's essentially just like a negative
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: of a photo where you know, black is white, white
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: as black. I hope I said that right, But you know,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: just a total negative, you know, flipping. So he's actually
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: in a white jersey, but it looks black on this
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I've always loved these because they especially look fantastic in
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Chicago white Sox cards. But let's go with the negative
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: refractor for Trevor Rodgers here for the PC.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I like, we're just we're making we're putting in the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: stories around I love to call the negative where his
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: season bent. Man, you're just on fire. And the other
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: thing is whoever took the photo almost eBay listing, like
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: tell me how good you are at taking photos? Because
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: they they managed to get like somehow this refractor is
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: showing green and fire, yellow and red like on the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: day like that. They are selling this dollar fifty card absolutely,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: and that's the dedication to the craft right there. So
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: love the pig, but love the picture even more.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the stands almost more than the card.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: So it's funny.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the n L side for the picture
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: of the month, and this one it makes a little
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: more sense. You've probably heard of this guy before. Freddy
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Peralta fastball. Freddy from the Milwaukee Brewers had a fantastic
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: month with a point three to two ERA over twenty
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: eight innings, went four and over his five starts thirty
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: four ks to twelve walks. Just an electric run also
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: looks great today against Philadelphia. I was watching that start
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: to wrap the series between those division leaders of the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Phillies and the Brewers and just shoved. I don't know
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: what it is. It's really hard to describe like what
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Peralta is because none of the stuff looks great on
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: like the savant numbers you go to. It's like top
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: comparables and savant and it's maybe like some of the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: worst collection of pitchers you've ever seen, but it keeps
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: working and he's part of his vibes base. He's got
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit of that like Pedro Martinez, Jerry Curle
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: look from the nineties that he's just been rocking and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: the fastball has been cooking. So we'll see if the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Brewers label ride Peralta's armed through the playoffs. But before
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: we do that, we've got some PC make picks to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: make another guy who kind of a enigmatic player I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: would say coming through Maybe not it's not even the
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: right word, I would say, but maybe uh Mercutio not
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: to on right word either, but lesser known player coming
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: through the minor league system. So doesn't have a ton
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: of cards for the brewers. But we've got some good picks.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Where'd you go?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Well, while you get your the source out and I'll
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: talk about my pick, but I'm gonna go with the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Top Series two in the in the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Name relic card. These are one of one game word
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: cards and if you don't know what that means, what
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: it says in the name, it is a one of
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: one for every letter of the name. And so I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: picked the letter P for Peralta because I thought it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: was great to actually have the first letter if you're
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: going to collect only to get the F and the P.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Get the initials right. But these are really great cards
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: because it you know, it's a massive patch and these
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: are the things that you like. Collectors dream of of
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: building the full set of the name plate essentially at
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: the back of the jersey and be able to spell
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Peralta with all the one on ones and put that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: on the wall it's just it looks amazing. So this
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: one sold for about two hundred bucks recently on eBay,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: but it's just a great great patch. Also has the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: pin stripes on it, So I've always wanted to have
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: a one of one in the name. I got a
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: few other in the collection, but they're always like the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: you know, out of fifty and I'm like, uh, I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: don't know. This is more of like a player Warn
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: jersey versus the game Warren jersey, Like you just the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: guy wore fifty jerseys in ten minutes and then you
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: put them in cards type of thing. But these these
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: are absolutely game Warn and it's just they're cool cards.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, I totally agree, great pick that, especially in the
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: p you don't get the first letter very often. If
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: there's one to own, that's obviously the one.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I was like, I got the picture,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: I got the L It's like, maybe maybe not the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: one to own.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: All right. Well for my pick, I did go with
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: another minor league card here, So we've been a little
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: hot on the minor league cards, but in a fun
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: one because in twenty sixteen, the Midwest League All Stars
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: had their own set put out, so the one that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: I've got linked to in the show notes. It's a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: twenty dollars version, but it's about a five dollars card
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: where you can find it. Just that the one that
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I've got linked had the best photo of the actual card,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: and it's just kind of crazy to see little baby
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: faced Freddy PEARLTA. I don't know if I really would
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: have ever recognized that was him. He's pitching in a
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin Timbler Ratler's jersey, which is I mean, the timber
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: Ratlers is just a supreme Supreme Minor League team name.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I'm jealous that the Brewers have that in their system
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: because it just fits everything Milwaukee Milwaukee Brewers. What makes
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: this card kind of interesting. I've never seen a card
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: kind of design like this where you're almost waiting for
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: the patch auto to be slapped on it and it's
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: just missing. So, especially if you were an autograph chaser
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: out there and you are a Brewers fan and actually
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: can connect maybe with Peralta before a game, this would
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: be a great card I think, to have signed in person,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: because right in the middle there's just kind of this blay,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: this blank grayish spot that's faded and it's just it's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: begging for Freddie per Alta's signature. So that's where I'm going.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen Midwest League All Stars Choice number sixty six,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: I love that call. You're absolutely right. There's like a
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: perfect spot for the autocraft on this card. This is
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: the one you take to the fan fest or something
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: like that and you get a signed and it is
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: absolutely cool. And yeah, the Rattlers, the Timber Rattlers, that's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: a that's a you know, it's up there with some
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: of some of these names. I mean, Greensboro Grasshoppers was
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: was pretty good too, So we've got some good minor
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: league names going tonight.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and both are absolutely ones that, like John Oliver,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: would never change in a million years because they're perfect
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: between Grasshoppers and timber Rattlers. Okay, let's get into those rookies.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: The first one we got on the al side, we
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: just discussed his season probably being over. We're talking Roman
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Anthony from the Boston Red Sox. Part of the reason
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: he had really risen to the cream of the crop
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six drafts is because the August was fantastic.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: Six homers, twenty one runs, scored thirteen RBI two stolen
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: bases over one hundred and eighteen played appearances with a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: three or four three to ninety five twenty slug that's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: slash nine one WRC plus, which is I mean, that's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: pretty elite stuff for a twenty one year old. I mean,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I think that's something I gloss over all the time
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: whenever we talk Roman Anthony is just how young he is.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: This dude should be a junior in college, and so
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: he is tearing it up for the Boston Red Sox.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: We've got lots of choices here because he's been a
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: hot prospect for the past couple of years, was relatively
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: highly rated in terms of a second round comp pick
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. So which direction did you go
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: for your Roman Anthony PC pick?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Well, we said the budget of friendly version, and then
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: we got to Romon Anthony and I messed up. And I,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: first of all, I really wanted a color match red
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: refractor for Roman Anthony. And by golly and sorry, if
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: we ever said by Galli on this podcast, that's probably sorry.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: My deep Missouri came out of me there. But you
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: can't find red cards for a Red Sox player. The
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: search algorithm does not like it, and so it took
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: me a lot lot of effort to find it.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: But I haven't thought about that Cardinals.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Like let me find my red color match, Like, no,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: it's in, it's in the team name. I have to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: say like red minus socks. But then you lose all
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: this red sox labels like it doesn't work. But anyway, digression,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I went with his twenty twenty three Bowmen Chrome Rookie
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Auto out of five red refractor. It is a great card.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: The red true red refractors always always pop and you
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: just had to get it. Even the miners, like, you know,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: he's he's got the Boston jersey that the blues and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: the reds. He's got his nice long sleeve under armor
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: kind of thing going on here with the red and
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: he's you know, it's the it's the on card auto.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: It is a little pricey list on eBay right now
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: for a good eighty five thousand dollars, probably a little
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: bit high on the ask is my my guess here,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: But hey, you got the card, I don't. You can
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: set the price, but it is definitely definitely a fun card.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe buy it, crack it, it's a PSA get a
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: PSA ten with some of those subgrades there, but probably
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: not gonna get the get the return on this one.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: So going with the out of five red refractur for
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Vermon Anthony. Break the bank, but don't don't pay that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: price for it if you're if you're really going after it.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like the aggression that you're gonna break
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: a nine point five bgs to T'm gonna absolutely ding
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: that when you crack that open.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, they're all sub there were four subgrades of nine
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: point five's here. You can't go wrong. It's easy at
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: ten on ps A. I mean, that's gonna bump the
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: value from eighty five k tot least eighty six.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, well I'm gonna go with Look
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: at me, I'm venturing off into unlicensed ter.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I know. Isn't this amazing? Hopefully the link is not
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: quite working in the show notes, but this would be
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: one to definitely go to rasball dot com and check
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: out the post four. Because the one thing about Roman
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Anthony is like the past couple of years, I think
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Panini has really been slotting him into some premium products.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of patch autos from National Treasures and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Immaculate and other really high end products over the past
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: couple of years of Panini. There's great choices all around,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and I found, I think one of my favorite patches
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: because the fun thing about the Red Sox is that
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: because of the very distinctive lettering that they use on
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: the front of their jerseys, you can kind of really
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: make out what it is and very clearly in the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: one that I've got, it is a twenty twenty four
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: National Treasures Jumbo patch auto and it's the X. It's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: just like one of the few letters you don't get
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: to see very often in the league. You know, you
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: run into it in the White Sox, but even there,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: the AX is pretty buried in that Sox logo. You
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: just got a big hunk of the X on this
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Roman Anthony card doesn't look too shabby in his unlicensed photo.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Looks maybe a little bit more like a for the Reds,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: but I'll just chalk it up to it being like
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: an old timey, early nineteen hundred s Boston Red Sox uniform.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: The other thing, too, I don't know if you notice
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: this when you're looking at Roman Anthony cards. He doesn't
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: sign all his own cards, like the auto moves around
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: a lot. So that's we had this actually a couple
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: of years ago a Jazz Chisholm where it's like very
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: clear that there was an assistant helping Jazz with his autos.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: So I think I've got one of the real Roman
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Anthony autos based on one else is out there. But
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: it's a player I would be careful with on the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: autos because you can tell he's either mixing up his
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: auto every once in a while or he's getting some
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: help from people to tear through those autographs quickly.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: This looks like be signing for like some bank loan, right,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: it's just like there, I think there's an R in
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: there and maybe half of a Y in exactly if
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: you look at it, if you actually look at his
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Bowman chrome model that I just picked out, I think
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: he added one letter in the middle and so like,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: and I only know there's actually a letter which just
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: kind of like a little uh, you know, little mountain
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: like he's tried the A failed to cross it. Like,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: so either he's regressed or you're right, somebody else is signing.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: But it's it's it's it's almost to the point of
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: like just a straight line. So this isn't the Randy
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: Rose Arena type of a signature here, which we we
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: love on this podcast. So great, Card, I'm so proud
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: of you for going outside of the comfort zone into
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: the unlicensed because that's where you get some fun patches
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: and things like that. National Treasures is a great, great set,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: but the Auto is a little to be desired for
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: romoent Anthony.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's wrap up with our final player
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: that is from the NL Rookie and man, I'm so
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: proud of this guy because you and I were both
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: all over him coming into I mean, heated up a
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: lot over the season. I think we weren't, you know,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: quite sure where he would land for the Marlins coming
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: into the year. But Jacob Marcy, hebewed on August first,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: so we've got a clean kind of spot from where
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: he started his first month in the big leagues. Three
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: point fifty two four point thirty six point twenty nine
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: slash with four homers, nine stolen bases, three triples, eleven doubles,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: twenty five RBI eighteen runs. Modern day Jacobe Elsberry essentially
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: is what Jacob Marcy has been as just a breakout
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: star for the Marlins. I mean, this is a guy
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: who I mean, I don't even next year is gonna
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: be really tough judging where he goes, because I'm glad
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not the top one hundred hitter guy who has
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: to actually place him, because never gonna have to touch
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Jacob Marcy until he falls off a cliff, maybe because
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: he's not in waiver Wire territory anymore. Was the winner
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: of the NL Rookie of the Month. If you've got
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: anything else to add about his bunth, you can do that,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: but also make your PC pick here for Jacob Marcy.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just call it still out. You call it right,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Like I he's gonna He's so hard to rank because
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: like the pedigree wasn't necessarily there coming up like he was,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: he was a well regarded prospect, but there's always like,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: is he gonna hit the majors? Is the swing gonna work?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Is he is he gonna be? Like but like the
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: numbers have always been there, like all of a sudden
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: he gets here, and like this guy is good, Like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: this guy can make his lightning, but he's also gets
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: kind of forgotten about in Miami a little bit, and
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: so it's gonna be fun to see where ultimately he lies,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: because like you can dream on this profile, like you
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: could dream about him being a three hundred hitter, but
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: yet a few years ago he hit below the windows,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: the line in the miners. Like it's a it's a
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: wide variety of outcomes, but man, if it hits, it
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: can be so valuable. But anyway, speaking of valuable, this
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: is the other side of the coin here, Ramon Anthony.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: You're going to out of five Bowman First Auto for
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: eighty five thousand. We're going with the printing plate from
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two Bowman Draft for Jacob Marcy. The auto
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: signature slightly better still, it's pretty much just a scribble,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: and we're going with the printing plate Magenta one of one,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: which is available right now in eBay for one thousand dollars,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: which is like one of the highest ones that you
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: probably can get an offer in there for half of
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: that and take it away. Because he most of his
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: stuff is in a Padres Jersey because he wasn't this
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: huge hype prospect. He's not in a lot of other sets.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: It's mainly that first Bowman that that is available, and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's the Miami Marlin's card collecting contingent, I'm
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: not gonna say is the largest out there. And also
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: you get that that crossover. A lot of guys don't
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: like to have cards in you know, competitor jerseys things
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: like that, so much more available. But I do love
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: me a good printing plate, especially the the auto from
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a Bowman first. There's probably not a you know better
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: card if you want to have one in that PC
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: of your favorite player, get a one on one of
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: your Bowman first auto, like yeah, and it's gonna probably
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: be a printing plate unless you get the super super fractor.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: So love this one. Uh, very just simple, simplistic card,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: but it's also nice the printing plates, like you can
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: see the images very well, like this one coming like
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: the black is usually the good one with the magenta
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: does show very well for Jacob Marcy here.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is a great pick because the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: pink also kind of gives you a little bit of
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: a Miami Marlins flavor in terms of the color. And
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: on top of it, the backwards SD looks cool on
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: the printing plate because it like turns into a funky
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: geometric kind of pattern more than anything else, So you
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: can almost convince yourself it's just for like a minor
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: league stop that Marcy's batting right handed for, which is
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: a little odd on the printing plate. But I think
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: this is a great pick.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: All right, the initials out with the adds of the PC.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: What are you doing with Jacob Barci?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: All right? Well, he obviously had a Topsnow card for
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: that crazy first month he had because he just also
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: went bananas a couple of games. One of them was
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: a seven RBI game on eight thirteen, so he got
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: a Topsnow card for that. That's when I'm picking up
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: going to the PC. But I'm gonna go with the
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: orange parallel because you know, Miami Marlins, the more colors
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: you can layer on the better. We kind of ran
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: into this when Connor Norby i think, won the Rookie
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: of the Month in back in April, and we realized
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: the same thing that like, essentially, if you take the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: modern day Miami Marlin's uniforms and you just slap it
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: on a rainbow colored palette of a card, it looks fantastic.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: So that's why I've picked the orange one here going
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: for sixty bucks, which is actually almost as expensive as
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the card itself. Like to get the pre order of
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: this Top Snow card because it hasn't been released. Somehow
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: this person has the orange parallel, so might want to
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: look into how that happened. Tops. But the other pre
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: releases are like going for like twenty five to forty bucks,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a hot card. Shows you kind
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: of I think where the card collecting community is gonna
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: take Marci in twenty twenty six because he's not gonna
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: have a Rookie card. That's indicated by this Top Snow
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: card because it's just a call up. If it was
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: if he was going to have a Rookie card and
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: update either Chrome update or Flagship update, it would have
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: an RC on it. So that's where I've gone with
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Jacob Marcy.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Nope, great, great pick. There's there are many different chances
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: to go in the questions about the cards availability, but
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: that was just an iconic game that announced into the
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: national stage. Great picking. You're absolutely right, like that whole stadium,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: the Marlins, the Jerseys, the stadium, like it's just colors galore.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: They've just leaned into that Southern Miami Vibe, and you know,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: you just got to appreciate that, like they've leaned into
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: being that team and it's it's fun, so great, great
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: pick and to your point, like that's actually not too
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: bad like this this this card could go up in price,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: and so I kind of like that.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's wrap up our pod for this week.
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• 1:19:53
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• 1:20:07
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• 1:20:13
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• 1:20:30
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• 1:20:33
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• 1:21:11
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• 1:21:12
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• 1:21:15
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