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The Red Heifer Update | J.B. Hixson · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Mondo, welcome back to the program, my friend.
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  Speaker 1: It is always good to be with you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, give us a quick update on Prophecy Watchers and
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  Speaker 3: your ministry, and then I want to jump right into
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  Speaker 3: the subject that's on everybody's mind, and that is the
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  Speaker 3: red Heifer and you you've really got your finger on
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  Speaker 1: But how you been, how things going? You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: for us because it's right in our backyard. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: looking forward to that in October, the Victory in Jesus
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  Speaker 3: Prophecy Conference. It's gonna be awesome, a lot of great speakers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll have a lot more to say about
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  Speaker 3: that as we get closer. But what I want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about today is, you know, we're hearing all different
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  Speaker 3: kinds of things about the red heifers and are they
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  Speaker 3: still around, have they been sacrificing? You know, we'd like
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  Speaker 3: to kind of give our audience an update here on
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  Speaker 3: just how things are going.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to just yield to Mike.
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  Speaker 2: You you take it away.
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  Speaker 3: I may interject with some questions or comments here and there,
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  Speaker 3: but give us a red Heifer update.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and feel free interject. The what I'm seeing
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  Speaker 1: right now is a lot of noise, a lot of confusion.
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  Speaker 1: And again, let I'll just start out of the gate
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  Speaker 1: that there's there's I wrote my book. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It came out in March March of this year. It's
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  Speaker 1: interesting how people get upset when you mentioned your book.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, look if you get it from prophecy watchers,
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  Speaker 1: I don't make any money, Okay. I just I wrote
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  Speaker 1: the book as I want you to be informed, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: because there there's so many layers to this this, which
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  Speaker 1: is again why I wrote the book. Also, there's another
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  Speaker 1: book that was written after Mind by Adam L. E. Yeahuberkowitz.
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  Speaker 1: He is the main journalist for Israel three sixty five News.
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  Speaker 1: Actually just talked Himbout with talked with him on the
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  Speaker 1: phone last week, and so I keep in contact with
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  Speaker 1: him as well. And then so he wrote a book
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  Speaker 1: again from an Orthodox Jewish perspective and what he's been
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  Speaker 1: covering the red hiffers and the Temple, the Temple, the
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  Speaker 1: Third Temple Movement. He's been covering that for decades. And
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  Speaker 1: then also Byron Stinson, who is the Christian ranchero who
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  Speaker 1: lives in Texas. He also has a home in Bethlehem,
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  Speaker 1: and he wrote a book called The Hut for the
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  Speaker 1: Red Effer. So it's kind of like this trifecta of perspectives.
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  Speaker 1: Mine's very theological in the sense of from a New
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  Speaker 1: Testament perspective. Of course, Adam is coming from an Orthodox
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  Speaker 1: and Byron's book just kind of shares the journey. But
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  Speaker 1: with those three you are going to have three different perspectives,
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  Speaker 1: and which of course has caused a lot of challenge
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  Speaker 1: and trouble, and so in that regard has what has
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  Speaker 1: happened recently, Well the quick review just it reallyas quick
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  Speaker 1: is Byron and his group Bone Israel, which is a
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  Speaker 1: group that he's done a lot of things for Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty two, September fifteenth, they had brought
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  Speaker 1: over five red heifers from two ranches in Texas, and
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  Speaker 1: of course that set the tone and they were just
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  Speaker 1: under a year old. They came of age in November
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  Speaker 1: of twenty three, and then of course everybody's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're of age, now what's going on, what's happening. And then,
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  Speaker 1: of course, as we know, October seventh happened just prior
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  Speaker 1: to that with the attack on Israel and the terrorism there,
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  Speaker 1: so it's led this whole discussion. But then recently, what
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  Speaker 1: you have several things in July. July first, there was
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  Speaker 1: a what looked like it was a five second clip
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  Speaker 1: that was done by like Israel National News, and all
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  Speaker 1: you saw was a red heifer being burned. But what
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  Speaker 1: you could see though, is I remember looking at it
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, well, this isn't the mount of Olives.
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  Speaker 1: You could tell Jerusalem, you know, topography is very very overt,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, this is nothing out of all
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  Speaker 1: of them, so where is it? So after looking at it,
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  Speaker 1: you could tell this was in the mountains of Samaria,
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  Speaker 1: which is where the cows the red heifers are, So
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  Speaker 1: I might say cows and heifers, okay, just in Hebrew,
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  Speaker 1: there's no distinction. So if you're a ratcher, please don't
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  Speaker 1: email me and.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just interject. Just in case there's people watching
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  Speaker 3: that this is new to them, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think everybody pretty much understands. It's been forefront of
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  Speaker 3: the Bible prophecy discussion for some time now. But the
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  Speaker 3: significance of the red heifers biblically and why why all
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  Speaker 3: eyes are on these red heifers?
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  Speaker 1: You know, good, You're a good interviewer, Okay. So the
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  Speaker 1: reason why this is important is because there is no
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  Speaker 1: specific prophecy that says a red heifer will be slaughtered,
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  Speaker 1: But it's an inference. It's indirect in the sense that
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  Speaker 1: in the Bible numbers nineteen, it gives it for screen
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  Speaker 1: for doing a redheffer ceremony outside the camp, which then
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  Speaker 1: those ashes would be used to purify the people so
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  Speaker 1: that they could participate in the temple. Well, we know
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  Speaker 1: several passages that there will be a third temple. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be built, It's gonna be built in Jerusalem, and
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  Speaker 1: so the rabbi is in anticipation that they desire this temple,
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  Speaker 1: and in their desire to build it and in one
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  Speaker 1: day to use it, they know that they need the
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  Speaker 1: ashes of the red heifer in order to purify the
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  Speaker 1: people and other things. Okay, now they can still use
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit, but they can't use it fully.
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  Speaker 1: That that's their perspective. And so no doubt do we,
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  Speaker 1: any of us believe that the Rabbis are wanting to
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  Speaker 1: build a temple to fulfill Christian prophecy. Okay, that's not
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  Speaker 1: the case, but we know that Christian prophecy as well
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  Speaker 1: as Daniel says that there will be it will be there.
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  Speaker 1: So the idea that the preparations for the Third Temple
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  Speaker 1: have been in for thirty years, okay, and they mostly
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  Speaker 1: have everything absolutely ready. It's just this red heifer. It's
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  Speaker 1: very very rare. So they've been thinking about it, looking
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  Speaker 1: for it for you know, twenty thirty years for sure,
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  Speaker 1: since the late nineties, and now five of them show up.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why it becomes prophetically significant because oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: will this other piece of the puzzle be complete? And
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  Speaker 1: therefore it does show us the fact that we're even
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  Speaker 1: discussing these things that we are living in prophetic times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that they have to be here.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like it's a prophecy somewhere were we can say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we see this happen after this, after this, after this,
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  Speaker 3: It's just it's prophetically significant in the same way that say,
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  Speaker 3: for example, Israel becoming a nation in nineteen forty eight
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  Speaker 3: was clearly prophetically significant. That doesn't mean that in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: forty six or nineteen thirty six or the eighteen hundreds
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  Speaker 3: people weren't still studying and expecting and believing Bible prophecy.
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  Speaker 3: It's just that's you see that and you go, wow,
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  Speaker 3: that's a big deal. Now, obviously, the re establishment of
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  Speaker 3: Israel and the land in nineteen it's a much bigger deal.
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  Speaker 2: People call it the super Sigh.
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  Speaker 3: But still I would put this in that category of wow,
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  Speaker 3: this is pretty interesting. We got five red Haffers and
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  Speaker 3: and so so that was that was why this is significant.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, please continue kind of how it's unfolded since then.
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  Speaker 1: So so the November of twenty three, you know, is
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  Speaker 1: when they came of age, and I was thinking, oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Byron in November of that time,
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  Speaker 1: and the big discussion back then was the ceremony is
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen in April April of twenty four. They were
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna, they were gonna, they were gonna rally it
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  Speaker 1: around Passover because Passover is a very big celebration, no
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  Speaker 1: doubt in the land of Israel, and so they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be a time of joy. So that was the
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  Speaker 1: plan that he was in the process of trying to
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  Speaker 1: do live streaming. He said, modol prey for me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to get live streaming for seven hundred million people,
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  Speaker 1: which you know that's I mean, that's a big deal
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  Speaker 1: because they were gonna originally it was they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do it publicly on the Mount of Olives. There's they
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  Speaker 1: have two pieces of property that Bonet Israel is connected
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  Speaker 1: with their onever them they own for sure. But as
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  Speaker 1: we know, he was doing this in November of twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: which was right after October. Well, in January of twenty
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  Speaker 1: four is when everything changed. January twenty four is when
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  Speaker 1: Hamas came out publicly and said that one of the
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  Speaker 1: reasons they committed the atrocities of October was because of
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  Speaker 1: the Red Cows. That their words, and so what it
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  Speaker 1: did is and remember this is still in the last
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  Speaker 1: year of the Biden administration, where Israel now is going
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  Speaker 1: to start responding to certainly what happened and in order
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  Speaker 1: to remove Hamas fren power. But they did not have
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  Speaker 1: really the very support of the Biden administration very much,
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  Speaker 1: and so everything became political. Well, in order to do
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  Speaker 1: a ceremony on the Mount of Olives, you have to
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  Speaker 1: have the permission of the government, of the Israeli government,
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  Speaker 1: and at that point they were not absolute not going
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  Speaker 1: to allow anything that would throw gasoline on the fire politically,
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  Speaker 1: because there's no doubt that in Yahoo was already being
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  Speaker 1: threatened by Biden not to be getting certain weapons they
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  Speaker 1: weren't you know, they had already purchased him, they weren't delivered.
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  Speaker 1: So no way was he going to try to ostracize
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration. And so everything went down to nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And then, of course, as we know, twenty four ended,
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  Speaker 1: Trump came in. Trump is very friendly to Israel, no doubt,
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  Speaker 1: and so the there was a resurgence now of discussions about, hey,
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  Speaker 1: now's the time. Trump's the Cyrus's he's the anointed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's the anointed, the Gentile anointed one of Isaiah forty
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  Speaker 1: four and forty five. And so you see that that
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  Speaker 1: discussion re engaging. When can we have the ceremony? So
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  Speaker 1: that has been for again most now of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what are we We're in August now, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of discussion. Well, so the thing that where
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  Speaker 1: it's up recently is in the midst of that. If
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  Speaker 1: you asked me four or five months ago, and you
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  Speaker 1: look at some of the interviews, you know, and talking
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  Speaker 1: to Byron, no doubt, you know, several of the red
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  Speaker 1: heifers had become disqualified. You know, they're going on they
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  Speaker 1: were born in twenty one, so they're going on four
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  Speaker 1: years now. Several of them have become disqualified by having
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  Speaker 1: more non red hairs. And so fast forward now that
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  Speaker 1: he had told me, I was with him actually in Kansas,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, May May April May at a at
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  Speaker 1: a museum and said, hey, Byron, what's the update, you know?
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  Speaker 1: And he said, well, we still have two. So there
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  Speaker 1: were two that were still fully or at least preliminarily
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  Speaker 1: qualified back then. But come, here's the thing. July first,
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  Speaker 1: they performed this ceremony. They took one of the one
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  Speaker 1: of the red heifers, and they burned it in Samaria
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  Speaker 1: according to all the protocols found in the in the
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  Speaker 1: Book of Numbers, chapter nineteen. And then they recorded it
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  Speaker 1: all and it's good there they're gonna be sharing a
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  Speaker 1: full marketing if you want to say it that way,
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  Speaker 1: or video on this coming soon. And if you go
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  Speaker 1: to his Facebook page, people can see now a longer
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  Speaker 1: video that he's put out, which is part of the
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  Speaker 1: filming that they did. The first video again was five seconds.
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  Speaker 1: That's all you saw, but the later he did another one.
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  Speaker 1: And so but then right next to that, the Temple
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  Speaker 1: Institute on their Facebook page, they come out and they
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  Speaker 1: say all the Redheiffers are disqualified. So now you have this,
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  Speaker 1: well he said, she said, now enough, we're ra at.
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  Speaker 3: Even if Barret the ceremony that bar Barry did, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: would it qualify because I thought you said it had
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  Speaker 3: to be on the amount of olives.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So that that brings up. So here's Byron right.
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  Speaker 1: Byron is Is puts this video out and now, of
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  Speaker 1: course there's lots of conversations and he, uh, of course
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  Speaker 1: he loves the Temple Institute people. He's very friendly, you
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  Speaker 1: know he and uh he he works with many of them.
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  Speaker 1: But well, let me let me back up just a hair,
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  Speaker 1: because it was back in April May. One of the
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  Speaker 1: chief rabbis, like the chief guy of the Temple Institute,
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  Speaker 1: who is in charge of all of the the the
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  Speaker 1: oral traditions, the missionic reseharts as it relates to the
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  Speaker 1: red heifer.
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  Speaker 2: He was in it.
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  Speaker 1: He did had an interview in Hebrew and Adam u
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  Speaker 1: eliahu Berkowitz. He wrote an article and said, and there
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  Speaker 1: the rabbi specifically said, we're unsure whether we have any
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  Speaker 1: qualified red heifers. And that was like, that was where
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  Speaker 1: it really started, because and so I interviewed, actually interviewed
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  Speaker 1: Adam after that and said he didn't say they were
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  Speaker 1: in they were one hundred percent sure. He just said
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  Speaker 1: they were unsure. And he's like, because you gotta you
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  Speaker 1: gotta speak rabbi. Okay, they're not gonna lie the the
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  Speaker 1: obviously they're not gonna lie, but they're not in SCESI.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to provide all the information. And what he
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  Speaker 1: said was accurate. The only way that you know whether
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  Speaker 1: one of these heifers is pure is the moment before
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  Speaker 1: you take it up and put it on the pyre
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  Speaker 1: to burn it. So sometimes if it's really bad that
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  Speaker 1: you could say, well, but maybe that hair falls out tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: and then it becomes so you see there's there's ambiguity
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  Speaker 1: there until the moment before. And so when they came
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  Speaker 1: out with that, that of course caused a lot of reaction.
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  Speaker 1: None of the Red Heifers and said, well, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know that Byron's saying, there's still too Well, then the
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  Speaker 1: Temple Instute came out officially and said no, all of
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  Speaker 1: those are disqualified. Well, then Byron is now he's got
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  Speaker 1: to respond. And so what you just asked the right
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  Speaker 1: question is what Byron is saying. And again I've scoured
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  Speaker 1: all of his Facebook comments, so I'm quoting him accurately.
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  Speaker 1: And is he said, Well, there's different a pin And
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  Speaker 1: as we know, and this is what I write about
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  Speaker 1: in my book that even right now, if you were
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  Speaker 1: to go, for example, if you were to go to Israel,
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  Speaker 1: is it okay for a Jew to go up on
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  Speaker 1: the Temple mount? Well, this rabbi says no, The chief
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  Speaker 1: Rabbi says no. That was always been the thing going
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  Speaker 1: back to nineteen sixty seven. But then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: going back in the last probably ten years, that started changing.
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  Speaker 1: This group of rabbi said we're going up. It's a commandment.
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  Speaker 1: And so now you have a disagreement which you could
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  Speaker 1: tell me what was it like in the first century
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  Speaker 1: with the Jews, the Pharisees and the Saddusties.
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  Speaker 3: Right, oh yeah, yeah, So I mean so they don't.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess what I'm asking is what was What
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  Speaker 3: does Byron say? I said Barry earlier, obviously I met Byron.
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  Speaker 3: What does Byron say? The purpose of this ceremony was
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  Speaker 3: that he recorded?
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  Speaker 1: So it's interesting if you look at the secrets of events,
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  Speaker 1: it's crystal clear. I mean, I have the quotes right
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  Speaker 1: here that early on, in his early quotes, he says
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  Speaker 1: this was a practice, okay, And then later he says
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  Speaker 1: it's a And this is what's causing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the reaction amongst people that are watching this prophecy watchers,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is he now is saying it was a
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  Speaker 1: real ceremony, so it was a real ceremony. But then
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  Speaker 1: he also said, but people say, well, but you said
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  Speaker 1: it was a practice, So that's causing some confusion. So
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  Speaker 1: in fact, it was a real ceremony. Okay, both are correct.
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  Speaker 1: By his own words, it was a real ceremony in
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  Speaker 1: that it was a real heifer. It was done by
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  Speaker 1: a real priest, a Cohen who was who was purified
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  Speaker 1: or who who was it was who never became impure,
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  Speaker 1: because in order for the priest you have, you have
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  Speaker 1: to be pure according to the ritual sense. This is
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  Speaker 1: one of the priests thats never been born in a hospital,
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  Speaker 1: he's never walked on the ground in the sense of
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  Speaker 1: become ritually defiled. And so there's very few of those.
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  Speaker 1: So it was done by one of them. The rabbis
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  Speaker 1: were there. It wasn't just this gentile Christian guy named
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  Speaker 1: Byrah doing it. He was involved with the rabbis. But
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  Speaker 1: they did it in Samaria, okay, So it brings it
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  Speaker 1: up to your question. And what he said was this
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  Speaker 1: was a real ceremony done according to the Torah. Now
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  Speaker 1: why did he say that? And this is where again
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  Speaker 1: I tried to share my book to say, listen, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to think like a Rabbi, not like
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  Speaker 1: a Christian for a minute, because or like a Pharisee.
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  Speaker 1: The Pharisees, as we know Mark seven, Matthew fifteen, they
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  Speaker 1: believed very clearly that the tradition of the elders. No,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: that's what Jesus uses, the tradition of the elders, or
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the oral Torah is equivalent in authority to the written Bible.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: So now you have the missionat which is the oral traditions,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: and you have the written Bible. For a rabbinic Jew,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: there is no distinction. Okay. So what Byron said is, well,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: if you take numbers nineteen, according to the Torah, it
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: just says outside the camp. Originally it was most likely
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: done in the wilderness wanderings, right outside of the camp,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the bank camp where the tabernacle was. You just had
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to do it outside there. So there was no prescription
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: in the Book of Numbers that it had to be
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: anywhere specific except outside the camp. So what Byron is
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: saying is, well, it's outside the camp, so we we
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: did it. It's a real ceremony. Then, But I thought
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you said it was a practice. Well it is. So
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this is the kind of causal confusion.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: So he's he's saying it's a real ceremony, but he's
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: not say saying, is the ceremony that resulted in the
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: ashes that will then be used to purify.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: The people and the temple.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Basically, yes, okay, So as people have asked them for
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the questions, and again I'm scouring and hearing him looking
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: at his responses because he's very busy right now. I've
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: tried to interview him, but he's really really busy, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: so I can't interview him directly. So I've just taken
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: his which is actually very helpful to get it written.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: What he said was the ashes that they did in
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: this real ceremony. He recognizes it was not done on
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the mount of olives. We have given the ashes to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the Temple Institute. They have them, he said, and he said, quote,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I'll quote it here. Okay. He says ashes used to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: purify the priests for the building of the temple would
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: be best from the ashes done on the amount of
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: olives ceremony. There will be more like they're there will
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: be more ceremonies. Okay. So he says as far as
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the place relating to Samaria, that because it was done
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: in Samaria, that made it a practice. Okay. So he
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: knows that, and this is important for people. So people
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: are running out and say it's done here, we are
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: it's prophecies being fulfilled. I would say, hold on a minute,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: hold on a minute. I'm not trying to be a
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: down here. I'm trying to help you understand that some
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: of the rabbis, according to Byron, believed that this red
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: heifer was pure. It fulfilled the requirements. Okay, Now what
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: he didn't say there was did it fulfill the requirements
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: of the total of the Bible? Because the Bible doesn't
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: say how many hairs is non red hair is supposed
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to have, so so it's it's ambiguous. But let me
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: let me reiterate for people, Okay, for a rabbinic Jewish person,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the Bible and the Mishna are equal. Okay, we don't
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: think that way as Christians. Okay, so for them with
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the Mishnah. And there's a whole chapter in the Mishnah.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It's called the Para Duma. It's called the red cow
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: or the red heifer. In there, it's very very clear
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: talking about Again, I put all this in the book
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: so that people could get their head around it. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: want you to think like a Jew of rabbinic jew
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: for a moment. It says they have the discussions in there. Basically,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: two more than one non red hair together in the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: same follicle is disqualifying. Okay. It also says crystal clear
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: in the in the oral tradition, it has to be
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: on the Mount of Olives. Okay, that's that's what they say.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: So I for somebody to say, a hol this is
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the real ceremony, it is not the real ceremony. It's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the real ceremony according to the Bible, because the Bible
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: is ambiguous, but it doesn't fulfill all of the requirements,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: which again for a ribets Jew, they will not leave
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: this undone. That's why Byron's saying, look, they're gonna have
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it on that this was one, but they're gonna there's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: gonna be another one, and it's gonna be on the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: mount all. It's because in order to you, they want
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to make sure he recognized that they're gonna want to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: make sure that box is checked in order to have
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: those ashes be used to purify the upcoming temple building
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and the projects and the priests and so people are
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: ahead of the game right now. They they don't understand
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that this box cannot be unchecked.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So the million dollar question for me is why would
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: they why would Byron do a practice ceremony with a
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: a qualifying red helfer. I mean, it seems like we're
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: being waiting decades to find to get one that that's pure,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: that's qualified why would you then use that for a
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: you know, a practice ceremony, or did he I mean,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: is it is it possible that he used one of
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: the disqualified I'd have fers to do this dry run
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: or I mean, I just don't understand why. It's not
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: like you got a whole line of these, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: right on the shelves ready to pull off when you
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: get ready to do the real ceremony.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: You know, only only Byron can answer that motive. Okay,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I'll try to read into it as much as safe
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: as safe, but we do know he originally originally like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: if people go to Byron's Facebook or if you go
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to build the Temple, build it. I think it's either
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: build a third temple or build the Temple dot com.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: They have a video, which is I kind of find surprising.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: They have a video that was done. They have a
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: news article from August second, that was before all this
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: latest stuff on his Facebook, August sixth, seventh and eighth. Well,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: they have a news article on there that says clearly
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that this was a practice ceremony. And I'm like, so
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Byron is sharing this information that it was a real ceremony,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: which again is true. He's not. He's not lying. He's saying, look,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: this was a real ceremony with a real redheifer that,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: according to some of the rabbis, was pure. It was,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it was qualified, but it also was a practice in
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: anticipation of the one on the mat of olives and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: so again. But why well, one of the things that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: he's doing is he is very eager, and he'll tell
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you this that I'm not here to sit around. I'm
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: here to get help, get things done. God wants us
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: to be people in action, so to so. On that regard,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: he is looking to create more interest in building the temple,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: building the third Temple. Again, people know the website. But
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I will tell you this, if there was only one left,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think he would have used it in this
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Samaria one Sa Maria ceremony. But for the past few
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: months he's told me that there's two. He said that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: there's there's definitely there's definitely two, maybe even three that
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: are still qualified. He said. The third one this was
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: a few months ago. He said, it's just not as red.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So I don't think that he would have wasted if
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you wanted to say it that way. One of them
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: in this practice ceremony. This this real practice ceremony in Samaria.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think he would have been that. But he
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: also did say, there's a quote here just and then
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I'll get it back to you. He said, there are
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: there's more heifers that we have more heifers in Texas.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So there's there's there's there's more. There's more heifers in Texas.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: They have so in Azebeca.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: So after all these years of trying to find that
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: needle in a haystack, now we have a surplus. It
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: sounds like so much so that you can even use
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: one to practice, which I mean, obviously, it's just the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: whole thing seems a little confusing. And you know, obviously
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: you know Byron better than anybody, and you're kind of
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the best one to sort of interpret this, and you've
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: done a great job of sort of just laying out
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: there as much as you can.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's things we just don't know.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: But the conspiracy side of me wonders if the whole
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: practice thing was just a decoy. And so I'll ask
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: this question, will we know will the general public even
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: know when the actual ceremony it finally does take places.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: That's something that's going to be known or could they
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: do it in So.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: That's a great question, and that this is something that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: people I'll just be blood. People refuse to accept this, okay,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and and they're excited for prophecy as i am. I'm
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: excited for the Lord to come back, okay. But some
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: people are just adamant know it was done in secret.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, listen, that is impossible because either they're
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: not they're unaware of the situation, or they're unaware of
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: they've never been to Israel. They you know, they'd never
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: been there to see it again. Even Byron himself said this,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: this this was a full ceremony in preparation for another
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: one on the Mount of Olives. See, he knows that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the only way that there's even a chance that all
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: of the rabbis would even agree to it is if
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it fulfills the oral tradition, which says clearly ment of
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: alls now they have according to as well the the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the the oil tradition, you have to be able to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: look down like at the time when the temple was
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: there in Jesus' day, it was on the amount of olives.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: You had to be able to look down into what
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the doors were open and see inside basically the inner
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: sanctum of the Holy of Holies, or that the at
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: least the at least the holy Place. So because the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: veil was there, so you couldn't see, of course into
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the Holy Holies, but you had to be able to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: look into there. So you had to have an elevation
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: looking to be able to look down. So in the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: same way today, you couldn't just go over on the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: bottom of the kid Drone Valley, you know, in the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Kidrone Valley on the Mount of Olives, because you couldn't
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: see up over the wall. So they have two pieces
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of property today which allow them to see down over
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the wall into the Temple mount area. That is required.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: So but in order to do that, it has to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: be done on a Mount of Olives. Now those places,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been all through there, have actually stood
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: right there over over where they're at. And the fact
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: of the matter is you can't do anything in secret there.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about a gigantic bonfire. This thing.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: This thing is one thousand degrees and people can see
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: the video. This is a huge bonfire smokes up and
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it'd be like going into a neighborhood. All of a sudden,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you see smoke going up and you're like, well, who's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: burning something? And then of course the fire Department's going
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to be called. This is this is in an area
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that is surrounded by arams. Okay, so the police got
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to be there. The fire depart is going to be
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: notified so that it doesn't spread. There's no way this
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: could be done in secret, not without the police and
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: all the people being called. But people just no, no, no, no,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that they did it in secret.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, except for the part about it being in Samaria,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: you could you might wonder, well, is this all just
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: a you know, for lack of a better word, of
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: smoke screen, that maybe this was the real one. But
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: they're just saying no, no, no, it's practice, just to
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: kind of keep it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: We know that, you know, certainly in government people lie
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: because you know, they think it's the best interest of
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: the public or whatever. But the fact is it was
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: in Saria, and they admit that. He admits that it
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: can't be the one. He tells you it's a practice one.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: It was a real one, but a practice one. And
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: according to what you were looking at in terms of
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: his statements, there's at least one, maybe two others that
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: meet the qualifications.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Now does the temple doesn't have to be built before
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the ceremony?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Obviously, they just they could do the ceremony anytime and
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: then hang on to the ashes.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, because this is really important and they will
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: be very adamant. This is not a sacrifice. Sacrifices take
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: place on the altar, which is in the temple precincts. Right.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: This is a ceremony. It's a slaughter. It's a burning
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: of an animal that has to take place outside of
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: the camp. So in fact it can't even happen on
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the temple mount because it needs to happen outside of that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And so for them, what has been told to me
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: by adam Elia Huberkwitz. He said, Look, there's several of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the sacrifices if we built the temple, he said, if
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: we built it tomorrow, there's several of the sacrifices, which
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: we can do even without the red heifer ashes. Because
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: but we can't do all of them. And so our goal,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: again for Orthodox jew is what they want to obey
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: all of the commandments. So if you ask him what
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: about this, and he'll say, look, our goal is to
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: obey all of the commandments, and so in order to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: do that, we need to have the ashes of the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: red Heifer in order to fulfill all of the rest
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: of the sacrifices and everything else in that regard. They
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the ashes, they could they could do the ceremony, hold
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: onto the ashes until the geopolitical climate happens when they
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: are able to start building the temple, or what I'm
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a visioned they would do is they would immediately erect
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the tent, the tabernacle tent, and then they would begin
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to build the permanent structure around it. But by still
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: by doing they'd still start performing the ritual services of
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the tabernacle.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: So, just to be crystal clear from my perspective, when
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: you're saying that, according to the mission, it's got to
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: be not only on the Mount of Olives, but it's
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: got to be up from a vantage point where they
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: can see down to where if the doors are open,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: they're seeing in it. That's not to say that at
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the time of the Redhiffer ceremony, the temple has to
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: be in existence.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: They correct, they can.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Do the ceremony up there from the vantage point where
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: it would be looking down on the temple mount, but
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: then hang on to the ashes for however long it
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: takes until the temples eventually built right one.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Hundred percent, and they him back before again they the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: other the other red Hippers that are disqualified. You know,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: they're not going to make steak out of them. They're
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: gonna put them in the breeding program. These are females
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that have never been pregnant, and they have an Israeli
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: breeding program. And of course, as we know, they're still
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: going on in Texas uh as well. And so there's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: gonna be there's no lack We're we like you said,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: we're in. There's now an abundance of at least possibilities
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: because of the genetic intentionality of what's been happening.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Interesting, So, uh, we're about out of time.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: But I want to come back to something you said
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: that in quoting Byron about how his passion for this
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: and he said we need to be a people of
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: action and so forth. And I know you and I
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: have talked about this before and you touch on it
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: in your book, But I mean, should we be eager
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: and enthusiastic about building the anti Christ temple I mean
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: it is the anti christ temple. That's not the temple
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: that the Lord's going to take up take the thrown
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: in right.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt. And this is why I quoted you.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You you have a quote in my book too where
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I quoted I don't know a couple dozen different speakers,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: what do you think should Christians be involved in this?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera. And so there was a whole
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: range of opinions on there. And but what you will see,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and I address this in the book as well, because
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: some people will say instillions two, it describes again in
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Holy Scripture, Paul uses the word that the Antichrist will
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: sit in the temple of God. And so he doesn't
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: call it the temple of Antichrist. He calls it the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: temple of God? Right, And so does that mean God
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: legitimizes it? And so that's that's that's a whole I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: give an answer in there talking about the different possibilities
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: of how to massage that or how to understand it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: But nevertheless, what you'll see right now is like Byron
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: will say, and he he I saw that exact quote
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: in one of his comments, was this called the Temple
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: of God. And so we are we are simply bringing forth,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: helping that temple, the Temple of God. Bible never calls
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: it the temple Letic Rice his words, the Temple of
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: God to be built. So we're simply helping our Jewish
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: brothers in order to bring a house of prayer for
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: all nations. So in his mind he has a desire
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: for younity and and to to bring that. And so
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: as as you said, and I mean you could also answer,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and how you answered it in the book is as
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: a pastor, you know, what do you say to your congregation?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Should I get my money to build the Third Temple?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Dot com?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Pastor? What do you say? I mean, yeah, I mean
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough issue.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I mean it's it's easier to just think at the
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: macro level that anytime the stage is being set and
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: things happen that are preparing.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: The way for prophecy to be fulfilled.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's exciting, right, But that doesn't mean there's
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: always this tension when we know bad things are gonna
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: For example, if I'm an expert technologist and and uh,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: you know, someone.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Says, will you help me develop them of the Beast.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Well, I know that the sooner the mark of the
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Beast is here, the sooner the rapture happens, because we're
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: not going to beer with it. So am I hastening
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: the rapture by signing on to help develop the mark
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: of the Beast. I mean that's an extreme example, but
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: the point is there are bad things to come in
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  Speaker 3: Bible prophecy from a human perspective, and ultimately it climaxes
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  Speaker 3: with the triumphant return of Christ at the Battle of
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  Speaker 3: arm Again to take the throne and USh you're in
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  Speaker 3: the kingdom of peace?
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  Speaker 2: Rights is injustice.
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  Speaker 3: So should we participate in hastening the things that are
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  Speaker 3: setting the stage for the reign of the anti Christ?
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  Speaker 3: I mean the simplest answer is no. You know, let's
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  Speaker 3: just let it happen. It's kind of I know, we
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  Speaker 3: want to have our cake and eat it too. We
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  Speaker 3: want these things to happen because it means we're getting
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  Speaker 3: close to the end.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't have to necessarily, you know, support it financially.
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  Speaker 2: So that I may sound like a cop out, but.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean each person this is between them and
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  Speaker 1: the Lord, right, I mean, we can only talk about
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  Speaker 1: what I would do or what you would do personally.
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  Speaker 1: And let me just remind people, is that look according
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  Speaker 1: and I talk again. I talked about this in the book.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to be very thorough. What does the New
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  Speaker 1: Testament say about the red heifer? Well, the red heifer
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  Speaker 1: appears in Hebrews chapter nine, verse thirteen, and fourteen, so
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  Speaker 1: as well as in Hebrew thirteen. So this is what
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  Speaker 1: I would say, This is what we know. Jesus is
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  Speaker 1: the final sacrifice. Okay, one hundred percent. There is no
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  Speaker 1: third temple that is needed according to New test in
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  Speaker 1: the theology at all, there are any sacrifices that would
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  Speaker 1: happen in a coming third temple. Again seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: an affront against the finality of the Book of Hebrews.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I found it interesting. Here is a book
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  Speaker 1: that was written to Jewish people. It was written to
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  Speaker 1: the hebrew people to say, listen, the temple, especially Hebrews
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  Speaker 1: chapter eight. The temple is obsolete and it soon di
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  Speaker 1: vanished away, which it did right after the Book of
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  Speaker 1: Hebrews was written. It was destroyed in seventy eight. And
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  Speaker 1: he's describing how all of these sacrifices Neal Testament, including
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  Speaker 1: the Ceremony of the Red Heifer pointed to the Lord
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  Speaker 1: Jesus and his fulfillment of all of those rituals in
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  Speaker 1: those systems. So from a New Testament perspective, there are
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  Speaker 1: no sacrifices are needed at all in any come, any
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  Speaker 1: future temple. And what we do know is that this,
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  Speaker 1: this temple that is coming is going to be defiled
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  Speaker 1: by the anti Christ. We know that Matthew twenty four
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  Speaker 1: to fifteen second Discilean's two four, and it also is
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  Speaker 1: going to be removed. The abomination of desolation is going
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  Speaker 1: to be removed, according to Daniel twelve, and Jesus the
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  Speaker 1: Messiah will build a new millennial temple that is way
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  Speaker 1: different than this one. This one's going to be taken
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  Speaker 1: out of the way, and the new one, according to
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  Speaker 1: Ezekiel forty through forty eight, is gigantic. It's a mile
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  Speaker 1: it's a mile square if you just look at the
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  Speaker 1: overall complex in the courts. So this coming temple is
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  Speaker 1: not going to be the millennial one. We know that
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  Speaker 1: for sure. And so when you look at all the angles,
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  Speaker 1: Jesus is the final answer, no question.
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  Speaker 3: But just to clarify, that's not to say that there
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  Speaker 3: won't be the proper time and place for sacrifices in
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  Speaker 3: the millennial Temple for sure. Resistance, right, It's just that
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  Speaker 3: these sacrifices, as you said, the Jewish people are going
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  Speaker 3: to be doing it in unbelief and complicit with the
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  Speaker 3: Antichrist to do it in the first half. And then
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  Speaker 3: it's only when he desecrates that temple and shose himself
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  Speaker 3: to be the anti Christ that they recognize.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what have we done? And one third
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  Speaker 2: of them then.
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  Speaker 3: Turned to God in belief and end up being regathered
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  Speaker 3: into the land at the Second Coming. Yeah, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I just finished doing a podcast on the Temple at
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  Speaker 3: the Coming Kingdom and the Temple e isecal forty to
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  Speaker 3: forty eight. And you know, I remember as a kid,
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  Speaker 3: I grew up in Houston High school and college in Houston,
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  Speaker 3: and so the astrodome was kind of the big thing.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember when the Superdome was built in New
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  Speaker 3: Orleans and you could take the entire astrodome outside walls
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  Speaker 3: and all and set it on the floor of the Superdome.
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  Speaker 3: And when the astronom was built, everybody's like, oh, this
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  Speaker 3: is one the great wanners of the world.
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  Speaker 2: This is an amazing thing.
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  Speaker 3: But over time, of course, I don't even know if
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  Speaker 3: the superdomes still around at this point. Maybe it's these
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  Speaker 3: stadiums just get more and more elaborate, but nothing is
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  Speaker 3: going to compare to the glory and beauty when the
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  Speaker 3: Chakaina does come back into Ezekiel's temple as described in
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  Speaker 3: Ezekiel forty to forty eight, when when Christ is on
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  Speaker 3: the throne.
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  Speaker 2: So where do we go from here?
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  Speaker 1: We'll close it out with that question, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think what I would tell is, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: encourage people to be be cautious. Okay, don't don't, don't
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  Speaker 1: go running into something, get all the facts first. And
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of confusion out there again, and people
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  Speaker 1: are grabbing on again. We're all excited. We're excited to
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  Speaker 1: see prophetic developments. I know I am, But I think
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  Speaker 1: sometimes we can be too eager in doing that, because
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  Speaker 1: then we begin to share things that aren't accurate or
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  Speaker 1: they're they're not again, they're not based on a full
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  Speaker 1: understanding of what the Bible says, or even understanding of
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  Speaker 1: the prophetic developments. Again, even understanding of the Mishta and
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  Speaker 1: the Bible. So when you see this some of the stuff,
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  Speaker 1: people say, look, he's being fulfilled. There it is. And
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  Speaker 1: then what happens, Well, then let's just fast forward for hypothetical.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say the genuine ceremony. Okay, another real ceremony, a
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  Speaker 1: non practice ceremony happens on the mountain beeleans. People are
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  Speaker 1: gonna go, well, what about the one in Sabaria. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that one was real? So you see how it creates.
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  Speaker 1: It creates a lot of confusion here, and we want
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  Speaker 1: to just tell people, hey, again, be sober minded, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: don't be emotion led by emotion in that regard. You
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  Speaker 1: can still be excited, but be cautious in your words
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  Speaker 1: before we start going out there and announcing that we've
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  Speaker 1: arrived at the end of the raptures next week.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. Yeah, we don't want to be watching for the smoke.
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  Speaker 3: We want to be listening for the trumpet, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's really what why we're here, were to be
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  Speaker 3: eagerly awaiting the return of the Lord. And it's exciting
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  Speaker 3: to see these things, certainly, and it's at the stage
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  Speaker 3: is being set like never before in so many ways,
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  Speaker 3: and this is one of them.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, keep it all in perspective.
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  Speaker 3: So Mondo outstanding as always, really appreciates you, my friend,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're a lot like we are. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Mondo, thank you, my friend, always a pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: Good to be here.
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  Speaker 2: God bless everyone, and have a great rest of the day.