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Dodgers Get Yamamoto · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It. All starts right now.
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Welcome back to the Three O Take presented by C Keith.
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This is episode four O 6. I'll be your host, Kyle Corden,
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and once again you're riding solo with me.
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Hope to have Nate back some point in the new year, but
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wanted to get to this Yoshinobu Yamamoto news.
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Before we do that, I hope you enjoyed our last episode,
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Episode Four O 5, Our interview with Josh Spores.
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A good friend of mine former teammate got to talk some World
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Series just get you know talk talk about the the inner details
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of his experience, his run, his time with the team what that was
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like stuff stuff with you know the whole creed situation how
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that took over. Got to talk about what it was
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like closing out the World Series the final out the glove
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spike this and that. It was just a great conversation
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with him. Hope you enjoyed that.
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Hope you enjoyed our three O change up our bonus episode on
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flying. We had a number of you reach out
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to us talking about how you relate to this aspect of our
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conversation or that aspect of our conversation.
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I I I would venture to say that many of you are are well
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travelled. So yeah I would I would venture
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to say we were we were preaching to the choir with that hope to
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bring you some more of those coming up soon.
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Our content schedules a little iffy right now as you can
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probably tell I'm coming off a little something so bear with me
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and that I'm. I'm not feeling 100% but still
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wanted to get to this Yamamoto deal.
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This just literal ground breaking deal.
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So you know as I said appreciate you all listening to the last
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week or so of content it's. I know it's been a little up and
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down but glad to have you here. Appreciate you tuning in for
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episode four O 6. Let's get into it, Yamamoto. 12
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years, $325 million. Now, I know you.
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I know articles been floating around, tweets been floating
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around you. You know the detail, the
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majority of the details already. But what you probably didn't
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know, and I'm going to include myself in that.
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I don't think we knew that the Dodgers were gearing up for A1
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plus billion dollar offseason. Nate and I had been talking
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about it for at least a year, maybe longer.
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In regards to the fact that they were, I I think you could look
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at what they were doing and very easily come to the conclusion
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that, OK, this is a Dodgers team that's punting.
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They're going to give it a go in 2023, which they did.
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You know that. I mean, they, they put together
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enough of a team that that was worthy of competing in the
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postseason. But I think you could look at
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that team and know what they're capable of doing, what they've
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been able to do in the past and go, they're not putting out
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their best product. And it was because they were
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gearing up for Shohei. They go out, they get Shohei
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$700 million and you're thinking, OK, you know, they got
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their piece. That's that's what they've been.
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They've been kicking the can down on down the road for and
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they got their guy and then the Yamaha the Yamamoto sweepstakes
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get get churning a little bit that the stove gets a little
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hot. The rumors start floating around
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the the theme of the offseason this year has been incorrect
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reports. You get the incorrect reports
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floating around. Yeah, I mean I just I just found
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out the other day that apparently at and this flew
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under the radar for me. There was some ESPN reporter or
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writer or Co host or something. Maybe it was the Pat McAfee
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show. Maybe it was like a A.
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He was a guy on that show that was reporting that Yamamoto had
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signed a what was it? A nine year deal with the the
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Yankees at 910 year deal with the Yankees?
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It, I hate to say, but similar with the show, hey, and I'm not
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trying to rewrite. I'm not trying to go all
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revisionist history here, but it almost seems like it was too.
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It was too predictable. It almost seemed like it was too
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predictable. The Yamamoto was going to end up
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with the Dodgers. It was either, as we got down to
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crunch time, it was either going to be the Dodgers, the Mets or
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the Yankees, because I think those are the only three teams
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that were realistically willing to foot that kind of bill,
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especially for a guy who hasn't seen a Major League mound in his
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life. So he ends up with the Dodgers,
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12 years, 325,000,000. It pushes the Dodgers spending,
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as I mentioned this offseason, over 1 billion.
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And that's for two guys, Two guys.
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Now look, I don't know, I don't know who you're a fan of if you
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listen to this, I don't know who you're a fan of.
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But I would venture to say the team that you're a fan of was
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not in the sweepstakes for Yamamoto and safe to say,
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presumably not in the sweepstakes for Shohei.
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So this has been really just a spectator sport of an offseason
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for you, you just sitting back and and join the show.
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However I will say I have seen a lot, a lot of commentary from
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the, we'll call them fringe teams.
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We'll say what I mean. The more I'm hearing about what
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the Red Sox approach this off scene is I'm I'm starting to
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learn more and more in into the camp that we were never really
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in on the on Shohei or Yamamoto sadly.
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But teams that were were possibly interested in acquiring
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Yamamoto, obviously at us at a lesser clip, a lesser bill than
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the Notani. A lot of a lot of commentary
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from fans of those teams saying you know this guy but before he
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signed with the Dodgers you know this guy is going to be
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electric. Whoever lands this guy, I mean,
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talk about a A punch in the arm, a shot in the arm for that
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rotation. Whoever this guy ends up with.
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And then he sides with the Dodgers.
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And now all of a sudden we're rewriting the script?
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That's been my biggest take away from from this, from the
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Yamamoto ordeal that has now reached its conclusion.
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Desert Desert Dolier on Twitter actually put out a great tweet
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the other day. He said everyone wanted Ohtani
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till he signed with the Dodgers. Now it's more like why pay that
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much for DH only? Everyone wanted Yamamoto till he
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signed with the Dodgers. Now it's more like why pay that
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much for a guy who has never pitched, has never pitched in
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the MLB? I don't.
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I don't know how many more times I can tell you this offseason.
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I feel like more than any other offseason has peeled back the
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layers has revealed to us just how hypocritical baseball fans
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can be. And this off season has also
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showed us just how worthless baseball reporters are.
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But that's that's that's besides the point.
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My point about the the the fans of these teams though I is it
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takes me back to Bryce Harper and not to Not to just
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unnecessarily loop Bryce Harper in this conversation, but if you
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remember, I put out a tweet a while ago and I've referenced it
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multiple times on here, but I put out a tweet a number of
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years ago. It was when he was looking to
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sign his his long term extension to get his back.
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And I said nobody's going to want Bryce Harper until their
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team signs him and then they'll be first in line to buy his
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jersey. He signs with the Phillies.
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He goes out the next 48 hours and sets the the jersey record
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for most jerseys sold within a 48 hour span.
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The same kind of thing is happening with Shohei and with
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Yamamoto. Everybody wanted this guy.
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It it's it's a little bit different, but it's the the
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sentiment is the same. Everybody wanted this guy or
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these guys until they saw that the Dodgers were the only team
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that was really willing to to foot the bill.
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And now the narrative is flipped, the script is flipped,
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and we're just burying these guys.
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We're burying Yamamoto saying, well, he's never, he's never
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seen an MLB mound. How reliable can this guy really
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be? There's really only one
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situation, really only one outcome here, and it's that he's
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going to be a bust. Because what other scenario
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would you would you see playing out with the guy that's never
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pitching Major League Baseball and you signed up for 12 years.
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That's that's what people are saying now.
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That's what people are saying now.
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But yet we were waiting on pins and needles waiting for this guy
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to sign. Similar to show hey, with the
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track in the flights track and restaurant reservations, people
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wanted to know, is this guy going to a Los Angeles Rams game
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If you if the guy is going to be a bust, why do we care As
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baseball fans? Let me ask you that why do we
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care? We shouldn't if if that's how
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you if that's how you think about them or if that if that's
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how you view them, we shouldn't care about things like that.
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But it just goes to show you how hypocritical baseball fans can
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be and I know I'm going to include myself in that.
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I know what times I can be like that.
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But I think as somebody who realistically didn't really view
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my team necessarily as a as a a realistic suitor, I was able to
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sit back and and watch this play out with fans from the Mets, the
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Yankees so on and so forth. Now I mentioned the Mets and
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Yankees and that's and I'm and I talk about teams that were
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realistically on the sky. Should the should the reporting
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be accurate. What we know is that the Dodgers
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obvious their their final offer was 325.
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The Mets final offer was 325 and the Yankees final offer was 300
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million. Now my question for the Yankees
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is, and I and I read that they were quoted as saying that they
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felt it was a compare. I want to, I want to say the
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word they used was competitive, a competitive and fair offer.
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If you go through the process of acquiring Juan Soto and you get
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the wheels turning on the narrative for your team, that
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you're trying to rebuild the image of the Empire, to restore
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that image, to get your team back to a A, a place in the game
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where you're revered, you're respected, you're feared.
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Because quite frankly, I don't. You're you're not there yet.
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You're you're closer, but you're not there yet.
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Why are you not blowing every other team out of the water?
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I genuinely, I I'm, I'm trying to wrap my head around that.
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Why are you, if you're the Yankees, why are you not blowing
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every team out of the water? Because honestly, my opinion, my
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honest humble opinion is that the Mets, regardless how much,
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unless they threw 500 million at this guy, that honestly probably
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500 million would have been the threshold for Yamamoto to look
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at that. And like, I mean, I guess, like,
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I'm not going to do much winning there, but how can you say no to
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500 million? The Mets with their realistic
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offers again short of 500 million, were never in my mind
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going to be a serious contender in the sweepstakes.
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Because it's been documented that you're punting on this year
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already. It's been leaked.
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It's been reported. It's it's very clear based on
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the construction of your team right now that you're not
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serious about 2024. So how is that how is that a a
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point of bargaining If you're the Mets, how can you, how can
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you rest back on your laurels of essentially nothing that you've
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accomplished over the last number of years?
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How can you sit back and think that that's an an attractive
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destiny? How can you think that you're an
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attractive destination for guy like Yamamoto?
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Because I don't know. I don't know who all is in his
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camp. But I would venture to say that
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the people that are his runners, if you will, the people that I
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would imagine he already had over here in the United States
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doing, doing their research, running the numbers, this and
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that. I'm sure they caught wind of of
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what happened with the Mets in in their situation this year,
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and they probably heard Yikes. The Mets are not necessarily
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serious about their situation for 2024 and possibly even 2025
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depending upon what they do over the next calendar year.
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So unless you're willing to throw half a billion dollars at
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this guy, which I I don't think even Steve Cohen would do as
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good as I think Yamamoto is, is hopefully going to be for the
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Dodgers and for baseball. The reality is he still hasn't
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thrown a pitch in Major League Baseball.
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So I don't think the Mets were ever going to throw anything
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stupid at Yamamoto. So with that said, if you're the
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Yankees, I I think I would venture to say that a a vast
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majority of people probably sell Yankees as favorites.
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And I know I mentioned that it was.
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I was talking about it being a little predictable with the
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Dodgers and I only say that just from the sense of of resources
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of for money from a markability standpoint.
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A the the ability that they have to sell him on LA, especially
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now that they have show. Hey, I mean a match made in
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heaven if there ever was one, bringing both of those guys on
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board they. If you're the Yankees you just
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would have had to have blown that offer out of the water
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because I, I, and I don't think I don't think you have.
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You would have to spend $500 million like the Mets probably
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would have to to overcome the barrier of not necessarily being
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an attractive destination right away.
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Because I think if you're the Yankees you could easily and I'm
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sure Cashman, Cashman and whoever else was was at the
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table for those meetings. They they could make very clear
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like look we well there's a vision here it's it's you know
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it's been a little bumpy. We haven't, we haven't exactly
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done what we set out to do over the last handful of years, but
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there are there are pieces in place.
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We have guys locked down and we want to add you to that list and
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we want you to be a part of this.
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The the sales ability of that is is pretty easy in my mind.
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But you you just would have had in my mind to spend a little bit
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more than what the Dodgers were willing to do.
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But you didn't even match them. Forget about exceeding what they
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they offered. You didn't even match them.
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And it wasn't even it wasn't even necessarily close $25
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million. I don't know.
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What we do know, though, is that this, this contract is the
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largest deal for pitcher in years and value in Major League
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history. Ironically, it passes Garrett
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Cole's contract of guaranteed money of 324 million passes out
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by 1,000,000, which is just, you know, that it's a little poetic.
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And I'm not, I'm not trying to like not trying to kick the
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Yankees while they're down because I'm in no place to do
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that. And I'll be the first to admit
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that. I just think it's.
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I just think it's a little ironic, a little funny.
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The Yamamoto gets the largest contract and guaranteed money
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for a pitcher. And who does he top?
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Gare. Cole.
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That's all I'm going to say. I just think it's.
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I just think it's funny. That's all the other things that
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we do know about Yamamoto and we've We've mentioned these
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before, but just in case you need a little refresher, he's
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won three consecutive MVP awards and Salamore awards.
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It's the MP BS equivalent of the Cy Young and over 820 and a
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third innings. He's posted A165 and struck out
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nearly five times as many hitters as he's walked and
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allowed one home run every 28 innings.
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I know, I know. A thing that a point of
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discussion that we've had on this podcast before is the the
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the translation of Japanese baseball to the major leagues
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and how we can safely say based on the sample size that we have
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over the last go back however many years you want to go, you
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want to talk. Post 2000, the gap has narrowed
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drastically, which means that the concern for that translation
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of skill and ability to hang in a 162 schedule year after year
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has it's dwindled. That gap is not nearly as much
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of A concern anymore and we've we're seeing it through guys
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like Show. Hey, and I think if you're a
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Dodgers fan you should be able to rest easy.
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One, because you essentially have like a super team right now
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for one that that's just a an aside.
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But two, if there was a concern about Yamamoto you, if you
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again, if you're a Dodgers fan and you're hearing all these
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people talking about, well, he has no experience.
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How can we really know if he's going to be capable of, of doing
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what he did over there, over here?
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Look, the reality is we don't know.
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We don't know for sure. But I think you can you can look
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at this and go. This isn't like 30-40 years ago
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where maybe the gap is a little wider.
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We're at a point now where I think the Yamamoto is going to
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come over here. It it may there there may be a
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little bit of a learning curve because you always you you hear
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so much about their routines and their regiments and their
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training and their schedules and how it is a little bit difficult
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to. I mean think about as just like
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an average everyday citizen, a non Major League Baseball
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player. Think of how how much of a
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challenge it would be for you to pick up your life where you're
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at right now with all your rhythms, all your routines, all
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your regiments, your schedules, your preferences.
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You. You uproot that and you go
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overseas and you get dropped in the middle of wherever and they
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say, OK, be the same person that you were back home.
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Like that's. There are some challenges that
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come with that. I don't care if you're getting
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325 million, I don't care if you're getting 700 million if
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you're show. Hey the the money to me isn't a
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factor. It the reality of it is that
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that's a challenge, especially a younger guy like Yamamoto is
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there's still some learning to be done.
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So I I think he'll be able to come over and give you quality
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start after quality start. I think it would be naive to
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think that he's going to come over here and just light the
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world on fire. But the beautiful thing about it
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is, is there's potential for that because of how good he is.
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So with that said we will see how that translates.
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But I'm as just a general baseball fan.
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I I I think I'm safely at the point where I'm past the window
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of concern for for situations like this where you get a guy
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that again never seen the mound in Major League Baseball.
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I think he'll be fine. I mentioned, I mentioned a super
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team. I use that phrase.
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That phrase has been thrown around a lot in the last 4872
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hours. Look, I I don't want to pretend
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that I haven't just been glazing the Dodgers for the last week,
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week and a half. They they have done what a lot
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of baseball fans wished their team did.
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Identify an asset. Go out, do what you have to do
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to acquire said asset, whether that's money, whether that's
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trade. They just do it.
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They don't. They're not thrown in these
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articles haphazardly as an interested party.
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They're the front runner of for these, for these free agents,
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for these top name elite players in the game, and there's a lot
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of envy that comes with that around baseball.
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And people don't want to admit it, but they look at the
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situation that the Dodgers are in and they would they just want
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to bash it. It's the same thing depend upon
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how old you are. You might remember it the same
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way with the Yankees back in the day, where the reason people
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hated the Yankees is just because they would go out and
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buy player. They'd buy the best talent and
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they would go out and win. And people hated that.
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The difference is, at that point in time, the Yankees were one of
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the few teams willing to do that.
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Now more teams have more resources.
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There's more money involved that a team like the Dodgers is.
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There's potential for the A-Team like the Dodgers to be a little
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bit deluded among the field because these you have these
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billionaires who have the money but they they want to keep it
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like it's it's early 2000s Major League Baseball.
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They want to keep it that way they want it to be well let's
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let's just look at the Dodgers and and point fingers at them
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for ruining the game. I'm I wouldn't be surprised if
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these owners are the ones that are.
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I'm I'm surprised they don't have, like, they don't have like
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aliases or pen names or whatever that they're penning these, that
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they're writing these reports under talking about how the
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Dodgers are bad for baseball because it makes them look bad.
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It makes these owners who have just Boku bucks that don't want
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to spend it and they want to rally the support of their fan
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base through whatever means necessary to look at a team like
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the Dodgers. And you know a team like the
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Mets in in in years past, they want to look at teams like that
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and go it's killing the game, it's killing the sport.
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Yes, they may have a quote UN quote super team right now but
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don't be upset at the this is a A2 prong discussion here.
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One don't be upset at the Dodgers for doing what you wish
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your team did. You wish your team had Ohtani.
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You wish your team had Yamamoto. Because remember, don't You
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can't be upset at the Dodgers for spending money on Yamamoto
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because it's not your money. Stop being upset.
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As baseball fans, we need to stop being upset at the money
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that these owners and these front offices are spending on
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guys because it's not your money.
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Stop being upset. Stop acting like it's coming out
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of your wallet. You're acting like this.
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These Chipotle employees that act like the grains of rice that
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they're putting in your bowl are coming out of their paycheck.
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Stop the other The other element of this two prong discussion is
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have we not learned anything? Look, the the purpose of this
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conversation is to applaud what the Dodgers are doing, but also
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present to you, the listener, a little bit of cautious hesitancy
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to jump into thinking that the Dodgers are chalk for a title in
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2024. Because have we not learned
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anything from the last? I mean, you you could say ever,
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but just for conversation's sake, the last handful of years
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where you have a team like the Padres, you have a team like the
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Dodgers. I mean pre 2023, obviously, or
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pre 2023 offseason Dodgers where they just look like a shoe in
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the Padres, look like a shoe in the Mets, look like a shoe in.
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They're everybody's favorite to win the World Series on opening
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day. How?
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How do those things pan out? You can have all the talent.
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You can have all the names. You can have the manager that
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you think is the the fix, the solution, the guy that you think
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will best lead your team to a title.
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You can have all the contracts, you can have millions and
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millions, half a billion dollars tangled up in in guys that are
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running around on the field out there for you.
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And how does it pan out? It doesn't.
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It doesn't. And even though, even though you
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have Shohei and Yamamoto as the Dodgers, in addition to guys
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like Mookie, Freddie, Barker, Bueller, guys like that, it
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doesn't mean that they're going to win the World Series.
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And that's just the reality of it.
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Nobody knows what's going to happen next year.
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And you say, Kyle, come on, look at that line up and tell me that
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the Dodgers aren't winning the World Series in 2024.
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Look at look at the 2023 Diamondbacks and tell me that
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you thought they had any chance of making the World Series.
29:08
It's it's a revolving door. Each year of there's a team that
29:13
we think is capable of running the table, and more times than
29:20
not, they put together a quality campaign.
29:25
But you got to get through the gauntlet of October, and if you
29:28
look at the Angels, who had Shohei Otani and Mike Trout, you
29:36
saw the Angels craft a team that didn't even make the postseason,
29:40
much less win a World Series. Mike Trout has made it to the
29:46
post. I mean not to not not trying to
29:49
throw strays at the Angels here, but Mike Trout made it to the
29:52
postseason once, and I know that the 2024 Dodgers are different
29:59
than the the the late twenty 10s and early twenty 20s Angels.
30:06
I know that. But just because a team acquires
30:12
a name or names in this scenario, it doesn't mean that
30:18
they're chalk. I I'll say it till I'm blue in
30:21
the face. Literally nobody knows what's
30:24
going to happen from year to year.
30:26
And it's foolish. Like we we can sit there and and
30:30
make our predictions, make our picks, have have fun with it,
30:33
say oh, it's Sharpie, this and that.
30:36
I've said that before and I've looked like an idiot because
30:39
that's how baseball works. Nobody, and I mean nobody.
30:45
There may be like a screenshot of somebody putting in a parlay
30:49
on Opening Day last year that had the Rangers and the the D
30:52
backs in the World Series, probably.
30:55
But realistically, percentage wise, that percentage of people
31:02
that thought the Rangers and the Diamondbacks were going to make
31:04
the World Series started with a zero.
31:06
It may have been .0000001, but that percentage started with a
31:13
zero. And for good reason, because it
31:17
shouldn't have ended up that way.
31:19
But that's baseball. So all that to say, don't don't
31:25
sharpie the pot the the Dodgers in for World Series title.
31:29
But on the flip side, give them the respect that they're due.
31:34
You should be happy as a baseball fan with what the
31:37
Dodgers are doing. It's better for baseball.
31:40
Stop with the salary cap nonsense.
31:48
How is a baseball fan? Is that your answer for this?
31:54
You want teams to be cut off from going after guys like this?
32:03
You would rather your cheap owner be able to sleep easier at
32:10
night knowing that he doesn't have to spend as much to compete
32:15
or to attempt to compete with other teams in the league.
32:18
You want him to be OK with going all right, we've got some of
32:22
these teams at Bay now. We don't have to worry about
32:24
them just running away, spending a billion dollars in an
32:27
offseason. Why are you siding with your
32:30
cheap owners? Be better.
32:32
As a baseball fan, you should be looking at what the Dodgers are
32:35
doing and applauding it. You should be looking at what
32:41
the Braves are doing. I mean, completely different
32:44
situation, but you should be looking at what the Braves are
32:48
doing. Again, little different
32:51
approach, but they identify their assets and they lock them
32:55
down. And I know I've, I've railed on
32:58
the Braves time and time again for that, but they have some
33:03
sort of black magic down there. I don't know what they're doing,
33:06
but it comes down to identifying their needs, identifying what
33:10
they want and securing them and giving their team the best
33:16
chance to win a World Series, not just for one year, but for a
33:21
window of years. And so that's what the Dodgers
33:25
are doing. That's what the Braves are
33:26
doing. How you can look at your owners
33:31
of. If you're a fan of these these
33:34
poverty franchises. How you can look at your owners
33:37
and go, hey, I'm gonna come to your defense.
33:42
We need to. I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
33:44
We as fans of the Fill in the blank team, we're gonna continue
33:49
to contribute to the narrative that we need a salary cap.
33:54
We need a salary floor. We need to weed out.
33:57
This is me talking. We we need a salary floor.
34:00
We need to weed out the owners who are unwilling and
34:06
uninterested in putting a even remotely competitive product on
34:12
the field because they're just trying to turn a profit.
34:17
The reason? If you're if you're a fan of the
34:22
Reds, if you're a fan of how to, say, the Red Sox right now and
34:28
you're feeling frustrated because you just don't feel like
34:32
your team is being put in a position to win, to compete, to
34:36
be even entertaining, at the very least, forget being
34:39
competitive. Like, I just want guys that have
34:43
recognizable names. That's that's all I'm asking.
34:48
If you're feeling that kind of frustration, it's not because of
34:55
what the Dodgers are doing. Don't point it.
34:57
Don't point your fingers at the Dodgers and blame the Dodgers.
35:02
It's because you're a fan of a team that has no interest in
35:09
adopting even a fraction of that approach, and that's sad.
35:14
You don't want that. Baseball isn't better off with a
35:18
salary cap. You need a salary floor.
35:20
You need to require these owners to actually spend the money that
35:27
they have. Like if you're only acquiring a
35:34
sports franchise, to add it to your portfolio, Get out of the
35:38
game. I'm not saying you have to go
35:43
out and spend a billion dollars in an offseason, but like maybe
35:50
a million. Change the B to an M and that is
35:57
that. Is that too much to ask?
35:58
There are literal teams this offseason who have not spent a
36:01
dime. What are we doing?
36:08
It's almost the end of the year and you haven't spent a dime.
36:15
I I just don't understand it. I never will understand it and I
36:22
can. I can sit here and acknowledge
36:24
and admit that I'm no business owner.
36:26
I and in a billionaire sense I'm no, I'm no money making mogul.
36:33
I'm I don't have a portfolio that I'm trying to add various
36:36
sports franchises to. But just as a as a regular old
36:44
baseball fan I can look at this and it's pretty black and white.
36:48
It's pretty simple. If you're not interested in
36:54
investing and improving and presenting a competitive
37:03
product, why are you doing it? You could do that in just about
37:08
any other industry and get away with it.
37:11
It doesn't work in sports. People care too much on the
37:15
outside. And when I say on the outside,
37:17
I'm talking fans, we care too much.
37:21
We spend too much time, too much money, too much energy.
37:25
We invest too much to support a team, an organization, a
37:32
franchise, whatever it may be, to not have that reciprocated.
37:38
That's all we ask. We just want it.
37:40
We just want the favor returned. Like we'll gladly hand over our
37:44
money. Like they talk.
37:45
Like the that monologue and Field of Dreams.
37:48
We'll gladly hand over our money without even thinking about it,
37:53
but all we ask is that as these, as an owner, that you just
37:58
return the favor bare minimum. Again, we're not talking about
38:04
Yamamoto. We're not talking about Ohtani.
38:07
But at the very least like can you just go out and get a a
38:13
regular guy spend maybe a few cents That's all we ask.
38:22
All I know is though my friends I'm I'm glad this is over.
38:26
I'm hoping talking about going out and getting guys I'm hoping
38:29
that this move this Yamamoto acquisition opens the floodgates
38:35
a little bit. I I use floodgates lightly
38:37
because I know that the market is it's a little thin it's you
38:43
could maybe even say a little top heavy but I'm I think it's
38:51
pretty easy to acknowledge that this was what was holding
38:53
everything up post show. Hey so now that we've got this
38:58
out of the way I'm hoping these moves start rolling in.
39:00
I'd like to see. I'd really like to see some more
39:03
trades honestly because because of the market being a little
39:08
thin as it is. I mean depending upon which
39:10
which position you're looking at, it's a little more thin than
39:14
elsewhere around the diamond. But I'm just glad it's over,
39:21
man. I'm I, I think we're safely,
39:24
we've reached the threshold of players that we don't need to be
39:28
tracking flights for. We can just kind of sit back and
39:31
let the headlines come in as they will, because I think
39:35
Yamamoto was the last guy we were really checking reports and
39:39
tweets to see if he was going to be at a football game.
39:44
So like I said, I I, I hope we're at that point.
39:48
I I think we're at that point. But can we say the Dodgers are
39:58
done? I mean, can can we assume that
40:03
or is that, is that a dangerous risk?
40:07
To assume that the Dodgers are done because right now you're
40:13
looking at for the rotation, at least you're looking at Yamamoto
40:16
Bueller glass. Now Bobby Miller and Emmett
40:20
Sheehan. I'm sure there have been
40:27
conversations in that front office that look at that
40:30
rotation and go it's good, it's not good enough.
40:33
Whereas there's probably there's probably fans of teams around
40:36
baseball that are looking at and going, I would take that every
40:41
day and twice on Sunday. But look, man, the Dodgers, I
40:48
think the Dodgers are, they're a little, I don't want to say
40:56
insulted, but you know, they had to take it there for a year or
40:59
two where they were sitting back punting waiting for this
41:02
offseason knowing that these guys were coming down the pipe
41:05
and that they knew that they're going all in.
41:08
They had to sit back and kind of take it in the in that division
41:11
a little bit. Not necessarily the outcome of
41:13
of who won the division or or whatever, but just the
41:16
commentary surrounding that division going, you know, the
41:20
pot when the Padres were coming up.
41:21
We're up and coming. They're going all right, Maybe.
41:26
And I think I think we even contributed to that narrative a
41:29
little bit, too, where it's like, all right, maybe this is
41:31
the Padres. It's finally time for the Padres
41:33
to make their run in this division for the years to come,
41:38
you know, And the Dodgers kind of just had to sit there and
41:40
take it. They go, you know, like we're
41:42
just going to, we're going to play our hand close to the vest
41:46
here. We're going to sit back and let
41:49
it play out as it will, and you'll hear from us in December
41:52
of 2023, and here we are. But I, like I said, I I think
42:02
we're at a point where we can assume that major moves for the
42:06
Dodgers are done short of like a trade or something like that.
42:10
I just, I don't know who else you would go out and get if
42:12
you're the Dodgers, but, you know, it is what it is.
42:24
I just hope that this offseason picks up a little bit.
42:28
I mean, I know it'll probably hit a little bit of a lull here
42:30
now that we're we're at Christmas, we're heading into
42:34
the new Year, and that's OK. I'm not.
42:37
I'm not. If I was in the front office, I
42:40
just really wouldn't want to have to be working overtime to
42:44
try to make a deal so I can, I can appease some podcaster.
42:51
But as front offices, if you're out there listening, can you
42:55
just can you just, like, assure us baseball fans that once the
43:00
new year hits, we can get things going again?
43:02
Because it's been a little bit of a little, a little bit of a
43:07
disappointment is maybe a little quite an understatement
43:10
actually. Because it's it's been slow as
43:16
we waited for Shohei, for Yamamoto.
43:22
But now that we're there, now that now that we've checked
43:25
those boxes, I just we just need to see Moose start being made.
43:28
That's all we need to see checks being slid across the table.
43:33
We need to see trades being made because we're at that time of
43:39
year, as I'm sure you're well aware that we just need
43:45
something as baseball fans, especially if you're if your
43:50
team missed out on these guys. It's like we waited all this
43:53
time and for what? Like if you're a, if you're a
43:59
Mets fan, you're like we waited all this time for what?
44:02
What do we have to show for it? Nothing but a couple of reports
44:05
about possibly extending Pete Alonzo.
44:12
It's it's slow. We're at that point.
44:14
I'm, I'm, I'm gonna tell you, we've done this for how many
44:18
years now and it's the same every year.
44:21
Even when you inject it with the Shohei or a Yamamoto, it gets to
44:26
the same point every offseason where it's like, please just do
44:30
something. And I just I hope in about a
44:36
week, week plus that we can we can get to that point.
44:43
Trying to think, I think that just about, excuse me, I think
44:48
that just about covers it. Again thanks for thanks for
44:54
being patient with us. Just a lot going on right now
44:57
but hoping, hoping with the new year get back to a little bit of
45:03
normalcy. You may or may not hear from the
45:07
podcast by the end of the new year might.
45:12
I mean if who knows, maybe some of these teams starts, they try
45:18
to try to get in their their homework assignment before the
45:21
bell meaning the end of the end of the year.
45:25
Maybe we see something in the next week or two in between
45:27
Christmas or New Year's or Christmas and New Year's.
45:31
So if that's the case and maybe you'll hear from us, but don't
45:34
want to make any promises yet, but ultimately just wanted to
45:37
get to you guys to talk Yamamoto get some, get some thoughts out
45:42
there, add to the conversation that I'm sure is swirling around
45:46
in your head because I'm sure like I feel for, I feel for you
45:53
if you missed out on Yamamoto, you're probably still reeling a
45:56
little bit going well, where do we pivot to next?
45:59
So just wanted to put some put some perspective out there for
46:03
you and again thank you for checking out our episode with
46:08
Josh Boers. If you haven't please go back
46:12
and listen that or pull it up on YouTube, it's on YouTube, you
46:14
can get catch the interview there.
46:17
Talked about a lot of good stuff there as I mentioned and then
46:19
the the 30 change up bonus episode where we talked about
46:25
the experience of flying and traveling.
46:28
So hope to have more of those coming for you in the coming
46:32
weeks coming months as we continue to trek through this
46:36
offseason. But other than that, I believe
46:41
that's it. So Merry Christmas to those of
46:46
you out there. Happy New Year.
46:48
If you don't hear from us again before then just take it easy
46:54
folks. Just sit back.
46:56
Don't stress about work, Don't stress about money, Don't stress
46:59
about gifts, Don't stress about plans.
47:02
Just enjoy time with your loved ones.
47:05
Enjoy time with your pets. Enjoy time that you have where
47:11
you don't have to stress about the team that you're a fan of
47:14
struggling day after day, night after night like you presumably
47:19
will have to do come March, April, May.
47:24
Just enjoy this time. Be grateful.
47:27
Think about. Think about what you've been
47:30
blessed with. Just take this time to sit back,
47:34
reflect, and as I said, enjoy some time with your loved ones.
47:38
Maybe. Maybe flip on the pod every now
47:41
and then if you got an hour or so to spare.
47:43
But just take it easy, folks. Think that about.
47:50
Do it again. Thank you guys for listening and
47:55
appreciate your support of the show.
47:57
Love you all and as always, looking forward to talking more
47:59
baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.