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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Kristin Amiot.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, January fourteenth. Plans for the Prime Minister's first
- 0:14Speaker 1: face to face meeting with President elect Donald Trump have
- 0:17Speaker 1: yet to firm up, but Anthony Alberizi says an upcoming
- 0:21Speaker 1: COUD meeting between Australia, India, Japan and the United States
- 0:25Speaker 1: could provide the perfect opportunity.
- 0:28Speaker 2: When I had discussion with the incoming president, we discussed
- 0:33Speaker 2: the quad. We had a discussion there about those details,
- 0:36Speaker 2: but they occur diplomatically and we will get that organized appropriately.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Items from Barry Humphreys private collection will be sold at
- 0:50Speaker 1: auction in London next month. The comedian's late son, Oscar
- 0:55Speaker 1: Humphries says his father lovingly built the collection, which includes
- 0:59Speaker 1: the iconic gloves as he donned as Dame Edna Everidge
- 1:02Speaker 1: over seven decades. You can read that story right now
- 1:06Speaker 1: at the Australian dot com dot au. Anthony Albanezi contends
- 1:13Speaker 1: he can sol Australia's economic woes through a cash splash,
- 1:17Speaker 1: and he's starting with the National Broadband Network. The Prime
- 1:21Speaker 1: Minister announced the government will spend three billion dollars on
- 1:25Speaker 1: the NBN to finish the project started by his labor predecessors.
- 1:30Speaker 1: But will it win an election? That's today's episode. If
- 1:44Speaker 1: you're an Australian of a certain age, this sound is
- 1:47Speaker 1: probably equal parts nostalgic and annoying. It was a simpler
- 1:56Speaker 1: time on the Internet, when your mum had to hound
- 1:58Speaker 1: you off the computer in order to make a phone
- 2:00Speaker 1: call from the family landline, when websites were pixelated and
- 2:05Speaker 1: finite in a way that feels quaint compared with today's
- 2:08Speaker 1: World Wide Web, and when you could quite literally ask
- 2:12Speaker 1: the government to remove offensive content.
- 2:16Speaker 3: Since the legislation came into effect on January one this year,
- 2:20Speaker 3: the government body charged with applying the legislation through an
- 2:24Speaker 3: online complaint hotline, has received only ninety complaints, leading to
- 2:29Speaker 3: twenty seven takedown notices.
- 2:34Speaker 4: I think I was in grade six and we got
- 2:37Speaker 4: internet and it was very exciting.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Greg Brown is the Australian's Canberra Bureau chief.
- 2:45Speaker 4: I think I tried to look up some cricket scores
- 2:47Speaker 4: or something like that, and the dial up took a
- 2:50Speaker 4: long time to get any information, let alone watching videos
- 2:54Speaker 4: or anything that was impossible. So I think when you
- 2:57Speaker 4: look back on what the Internet was like all those
- 3:00Speaker 4: years ago in the nineteen nineties, it's hard to imagine
- 3:03Speaker 4: that it's so fast these days and it's just pull
- 3:06Speaker 4: out your phone and you can google anything.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Fast forward to two thousand and seven, when the whole
- 3:15Speaker 1: world was online. Fledgling social networks, global travel and international
- 3:21Speaker 1: business dealings demanded faster and more powerful Internet connections. It
- 3:27Speaker 1: was then, following a federal election victory, that the Rudd
- 3:30Speaker 1: government pledged to get Australia literally up to speed.
- 3:35Speaker 3: Ask anyone in the IT industry what faster broadband would
- 3:39Speaker 3: mean for Australia and they'll tell you it would change everything.
- 3:42Speaker 5: It's going to change the way we've worked, live, play.
- 3:45Speaker 1: And learn, And thus the National Broadband Network was born.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Labour's plan was to have ninety three percent of Australian
- 3:54Speaker 1: households connected to the Internet via a national Fiber to
- 3:58Speaker 1: the Premises network or FTTP by the middle of twenty
- 4:03Speaker 1: twenty one. Basically, that means most households would be tethered
- 4:08Speaker 1: to the Internet via fiber optic cables, which can carry
- 4:11Speaker 1: a lot more data a lot faster over long distances
- 4:15Speaker 1: than traditional copper wires. The first customers were connected in
- 4:20Speaker 1: Tasmania in twenty ten, in a rollout The Australian later
- 4:24Speaker 1: described as shambolic and abysmal.
- 4:28Speaker 3: A devastating strategic review found cost blowouts and delays had
- 4:33Speaker 3: plagued the nation's biggest infrastructure project, with significant cues in
- 4:38Speaker 3: connections and disputes over construction related contracts for a.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Whole lot of reasons we'll get into later. That twenty
- 4:46Speaker 1: twenty one deadline came and went with about ninety percent
- 4:50Speaker 1: of Australian premises connected to the NBN, and now the
- 4:54Speaker 1: Labor government has pledged to get it over the finish line.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Labour created the Nation Broadband Network and only Labor will
- 5:02Speaker 2: finish the NBN and importantly keep the NBN in public hands.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Today we're announcing an equity injection of three billion dollars
- 5:13Speaker 2: into the NBN. The NBN CO will contribute more than
- 5:18Speaker 2: eight hundred million dollars to this project.
- 5:24Speaker 4: So they're going to bring nearly all the remaining premises,
- 5:28Speaker 4: homes and businesses that don't have the fiber all the
- 5:32Speaker 4: way to their door. So it's basically going to be
- 5:34Speaker 4: fiber for I think ninety five percent of the network
- 5:38Speaker 4: which was the original dream of Kevin Rudd. Obviously this
- 5:42Speaker 4: change under the former coalition government. Initially it was cheaper
- 5:47Speaker 4: to have fiber to the node and then copper going
- 5:50Speaker 4: out to each individual home and business. But now they're
- 5:54Speaker 4: saying that the government will put more money into it
- 5:57Speaker 4: so that every household as the fastest possible ambient experience.
- 6:08Speaker 1: On Monday, Communications Minister Michelle Roland claimed this multi billion
- 6:12Speaker 1: dollar equity injection into Australia's biggest ever infrastructure project would
- 6:17Speaker 1: keep internet plans affordable, but she didn't really say how Now.
- 6:22Speaker 5: It is the case that many Australians are choosing to
- 6:25Speaker 5: use five G networks and that is their choice. But
- 6:29Speaker 5: the absolute truth is this that fiber is regarded across
- 6:34Speaker 5: the world and certainly by MBNCO, as the standard when
- 6:39Speaker 5: it comes to ensuring the highest quality broadband services. And
- 6:44Speaker 5: that is because nothing is faster than the speed of light.
- 6:48Speaker 1: With a federal election just around the corner, both the
- 6:51Speaker 1: major parties are making their pitch to Australians struggling under
- 6:55Speaker 1: a cost of living crisis, so could cheaper internet plans
- 6:59Speaker 1: get labor over the line.
- 7:02Speaker 4: This goes very much into the philosophical economic debate that
- 7:07Speaker 4: we're seeing in the very early stages of this it's
- 7:11Speaker 4: not even election campaign yet, but Alberanzi and Dunton have
- 7:14Speaker 4: both been out campaigning. So Anthony alberanzi key slogan is
- 7:19Speaker 4: building Australia's future and it's very much about government spending.
- 7:25Speaker 4: He was in Queensland and Western Australia and the Northern
- 7:28Speaker 4: Territory last week. There was a seven billion dollar announcement
- 7:32Speaker 4: to upgrade the Bruce Highway. There was packages in all
- 7:35Speaker 4: the little towns. He went about government money for housing
- 7:38Speaker 4: and smaller infrastructure projects, and the point really being is
- 7:43Speaker 4: that government under his vision has a big role to play,
- 7:48Speaker 4: whereas in Peter Dutton he was saying in his first
- 7:52Speaker 4: speech over the weekend that it would be private enterprise
- 7:56Speaker 4: that needs to lead the economic recovery in the future.
- 8:01Speaker 4: So Peter Dunnen on the one hand, is saying we
- 8:03Speaker 4: want government to get out of the way and have
- 8:06Speaker 4: the right settings for private enterprise. But Alberanezi is saying
- 8:10Speaker 4: there is an active role for government to play and
- 8:13Speaker 4: I think we're seeing that with this NBN announcement that
- 8:17Speaker 4: the government is committing three billion dollars more to a
- 8:21Speaker 4: public entity and a big part of this as well
- 8:25Speaker 4: as they are warning that the Coalition has a secret
- 8:29Speaker 4: plan to privatize the NBN. Now there's no evidence for that,
- 8:34Speaker 4: but Labor is saying that they will be the only
- 8:37Speaker 4: ones that will keep it in public hands and therefore
- 8:40Speaker 4: they will keep prices down.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Coming up inside the fight for the Internet in Australia.
- 9:02Speaker 1: When the Right government first announced it would embark upon
- 9:05Speaker 1: the biggest end arguably one of the most ambitious infrastructure
- 9:08Speaker 1: projects in Australia's history, it wasn't necessarily in it for
- 9:12Speaker 1: the long run. Following an initial investment of about forty
- 9:16Speaker 1: billion dollars from the government and private stakeholders, the Treasury
- 9:20Speaker 1: estimated the NBN would start paying for itself by that
- 9:24Speaker 1: twenty twenty one deadline, with Labour's thirty billion dollar investment
- 9:27Speaker 1: paid off by the mid twenty thirties. Then it said
- 9:31Speaker 1: it would sell off the NBN within five years of
- 9:34Speaker 1: its completion. But this is where the current Labor government's
- 9:38Speaker 1: plan diverges now.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Last year in the House of Representatives, we had a
- 9:43Speaker 2: vote in the Parliament to keep the NBN in public
- 9:47Speaker 2: cans and Peter Darton and the Coalition opposed that vote.
- 9:53Speaker 2: When the Senate sits again next time, they will have
- 9:57Speaker 2: a choice of whether they do support the NBN staying
- 10:02Speaker 2: in public hands or whether they will again vote to
- 10:06Speaker 2: allow for the NBN to be flogged off to private interests.
- 10:14Speaker 1: The Productivity Commission estimates the NBN is worth about twenty
- 10:17Speaker 1: billion dollars, significantly less than the thirty five billion that's
- 10:21Speaker 1: been splashed on its rollout since two thousand and eight.
- 10:25Speaker 1: So how will labor foot the bill if it gets
- 10:28Speaker 1: up at the next election. Here's Greg Brown.
- 10:32Speaker 4: This is another increase in spending that what they say
- 10:35Speaker 4: is goes off budget, so it's not reflected in the
- 10:38Speaker 4: forward estimates, but it still leads to overall national debt.
- 10:42Speaker 4: The answer, the broader answer to you question, though, is
- 10:45Speaker 4: that neither side is showing signs that they will be
- 10:48Speaker 4: putting up revenue measures to be able to pay off
- 10:52Speaker 4: debt at a faster rate. And so Anthony Alberzi has
- 10:56Speaker 4: been out in making more than he's made more than
- 10:58Speaker 4: ten billion dollars of space announcements this year alone, and
- 11:02Speaker 4: when I actually asked him on the road last week
- 11:05Speaker 4: what revenue measures he would have to offset this, he
- 11:09Speaker 4: didn't have an answer, and I think the answer is
- 11:12Speaker 4: that bracket creep is really the key to bringing the
- 11:16Speaker 4: budget back into balance, and that's not forecast to happen
- 11:20Speaker 4: for another decade. So the old era of both sides
- 11:25Speaker 4: of politics being fiscally prudent, which was the case for
- 11:29Speaker 4: so really most of the twentieth century, or certainly the
- 11:32Speaker 4: latter half of the twentieth century, that that's really eroding
- 11:35Speaker 4: at the moment.
- 11:39Speaker 1: The political arjibarji over ownership is just another stop on
- 11:43Speaker 1: the NBN's long road to fruition. In twenty ten, then
- 11:48Speaker 1: Opposition leader Tony Abbott vowed to demolish the NBN if
- 11:52Speaker 1: and when the Coalition won government. He wouldn't get his
- 11:56Speaker 1: chance until twenty thirteen. And while the Coalition didn't exactly
- 12:00Speaker 1: go around ripping up cables, it did make some significant
- 12:04Speaker 1: changes to the NBN. Most notably, former Communications Minister Malcolm
- 12:10Speaker 1: Turnbull chucked out the existing NBN board and implemented a
- 12:14Speaker 1: new technology mix that would take the focus off FTTP
- 12:18Speaker 1: costs blew out, as did the delivery timeline. When he
- 12:23Speaker 1: became PM, Turnbull blamed the Rudd and Gillard governments for
- 12:27Speaker 1: the delays and now Anthony Alberizi says the job would
- 12:31Speaker 1: have been done if the Coalition just stuck with the plan.
- 12:35Speaker 2: They didn't understand that the NBN is about productivity. It's
- 12:39Speaker 2: absolutely critical to the way that a modern economy and
- 12:44Speaker 2: a modern society functions.
- 12:47Speaker 4: I just think a lot of Australians have not had
- 12:49Speaker 4: a positive experience from using the NBN, and a lot
- 12:53Speaker 4: of people think it's been one big waste of money.
- 12:57Speaker 4: It is interesting that the government is is really putting
- 13:01Speaker 4: so much political capital in this because clearly they think
- 13:05Speaker 4: they're onto a winner. But I think people have mixed
- 13:09Speaker 4: views about it. Increasingly people are using five G and
- 13:13Speaker 4: while Labor might say the reason you've had a bad
- 13:15Speaker 4: experience with the NBN is because the Coalition didn't do
- 13:18Speaker 4: it properly, I just think people in a broader sense
- 13:22Speaker 4: think NBN and it's no good. They're not thinking about
- 13:27Speaker 4: whether the Coalition or Labor delivered it poorly. You know,
- 13:31Speaker 4: they just didn't have a good experience of it. So
- 13:34Speaker 4: I'm sure the research is telling them that people don't
- 13:37Speaker 4: want the NBN to be privatized, and that's why they're
- 13:40Speaker 4: ramping up this fear campaign. On us. I'm not convinced
- 13:44Speaker 4: it will be a vote winner for them.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Greg Brown is the Australian's camera bureau chief. You can
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