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The Three Amigos · Children of the 80s

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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Children of the Eighties. I am one
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  Speaker 2: of your hosts, Jim, and I am joined as always
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  Speaker 2: by the lady who thinks that Van Hagar should be
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  Speaker 2: a bitning Jerry's flavored ice cream. It's my co host,
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  Speaker 2: Lindsey oh Man.
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  Speaker 1: If I get through this episode, can we go get
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  Speaker 1: some ice cream?
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  Speaker 2: We cannot?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: How did I know that?
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  Speaker 2: I am on a strict diet of water and water.
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  Speaker 2: I'm proud of you and I'm trying to reverse some
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  Speaker 2: damage there. I have not had sugar in twenty two days.
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  Speaker 1: But who's counting?
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  Speaker 2: I have not had bread or potatoes in twenty two days.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. That says a lot, because that's pretty much your
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  Speaker 1: diet right.
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  Speaker 2: There, Bread, I saw you. Normally, what I have is
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  Speaker 2: a baked potato with lots of butter and sour cream
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  Speaker 2: and a sugar sandwich, A C NH sugar sandwich with
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  Speaker 2: some pixie sticks and slapped on top. Vota vodka?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Vodka? Doesn't have any sugar in it?
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  Speaker 1: I thought that vodka is made from potatoes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what vodka's made from. Maybe I don't know. No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think vodka has like an calories. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how it could be made from potatoes.
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  Speaker 1: Why did I think it was made from potatoes?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're weird? I mean, I don't know, audience, if
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  Speaker 2: are you vodka lovers? Was vodka ever made from potatoes?
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  Speaker 2: I would think if vodka was made from potatoes, then
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  Speaker 2: vodka might be from Idaho and not from Russia.
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  Speaker 1: So dram amateur, he can weigh in and let us
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  Speaker 1: know how bad we just messed that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not we V the wife V messed it up
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  Speaker 2: that one?
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  Speaker 1: I got. We got a problem on our hands.
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  Speaker 2: What's it?
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  Speaker 1: So we've lived in this house? How long? Three years?
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  Speaker 1: Two and a half?
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, three and a half maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I am determined to finish getting us unpacked.
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  Speaker 2: Two and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I have found two more boxes of CDs. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you're looking over here to your right. That's one box.
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  Speaker 1: I brought this CDs in and put it here on
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  Speaker 1: this table. Okay, there's another box downstairs.
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  Speaker 2: We might have more CDs than Columbia house.
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  Speaker 1: That's my concern. So at first, when we were getting
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  Speaker 1: this podcast room put together, we talked about, well, what
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  Speaker 1: do we do with cassettes and CDs? And you suggested
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  Speaker 1: tossing them, and I'm like, no way. We are children
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  Speaker 1: of the eighties. We have to keep, for nostalgia's sake,
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  Speaker 1: all of these cassettes and CDs. But now it's getting
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  Speaker 1: to the point. I have bought is it four shelves, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and now it looks like we might need a fifth one.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like we might need a seventh one.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know what to do with this. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. This is starting to feel like a problem.
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  Speaker 2: It was certainly a problem in the nineties when I
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  Speaker 2: was buying CD after CD after CD.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I wish that we had that the money
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  Speaker 1: that you spent on CDs. I wish that we had
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  Speaker 1: now in a like a four oh one.
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  Speaker 3: Ke.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, if all the money that
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  Speaker 2: we have here wrapped up in CDs, if that had
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  Speaker 2: all gone into like a retirement account, Yeah, when I retire,
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  Speaker 2: we could buy all the CDs. We still have plenty
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  Speaker 2: of money left over.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I don't want to act
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  Speaker 1: like that I don't have something to do with this,
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  Speaker 1: because I do, but not nearly as much as you do.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was the CD and movie person as you
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  Speaker 2: can see, and we gave away a bunch of movies
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  Speaker 2: or sold a bunch of movies, but we still have
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  Speaker 2: hundreds here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we did, we did. You're right so here?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, it's it's kind of out of control. So
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  Speaker 2: do you want to talk about how, for the second
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  Speaker 2: year in a row, I'm ruining your spring break?
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  Speaker 1: Well, so we just got finished eating dinner and we
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  Speaker 1: almost ended it in an argument. So I was going
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  Speaker 1: to stay away from anything controversial in this EPISOD sued
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't want to embarrass us and start arguing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to start arguing. And besides,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we argue every time we get on
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  Speaker 2: these microphones.
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  Speaker 1: No, I do not argue. I am a lover, not
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  Speaker 1: a fight.
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  Speaker 2: We disagree almost every time we throw on the headsets
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  Speaker 2: and the microphones. This time we didn't get into a fight.
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  Speaker 2: While setting up. There was really nothing to set up,
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  Speaker 2: so we didn't even really get a fight. It was
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  Speaker 2: just like come, you were like, come, let's turn it on.
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  Speaker 2: And let's just get going, so there's no tension there.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk about last year. I ruined your spring
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  Speaker 2: break because about two weeks prior, three weeks prior, I
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  Speaker 2: tore my achilles.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, and we had a big trip planned and Amy
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  Speaker 1: said from the get go that it felt like it
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  Speaker 1: was too good to be true. And guess what she
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  Speaker 1: was correct it was because we didn't go.
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  Speaker 2: Then this year we've planned to go back to the
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  Speaker 2: same place, but stay at a different different place, but
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  Speaker 2: same area, and I went and ruined it by getting
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  Speaker 2: a promotion at work, which causes me to have to
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  Speaker 2: work the first week actually about the first nine days
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  Speaker 2: of the month. And yeah, so I will not be going.
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  Speaker 2: But I have somehow convinced you and in mey to go.
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  Speaker 2: Although I don't think she took much convincing. You took
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  Speaker 2: a lot more convincing than she did.
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  Speaker 1: It was never on her radar that we might not go.
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  Speaker 1: I actually looked into if our money was refundable or not,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not. So she and I are going. I
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  Speaker 1: do have a lot of anxiety about it because I
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  Speaker 1: am extremely co dependent on you, and I don't I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure how this is all going to play out.
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  Speaker 1: But I have always thought, and I would never say
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  Speaker 1: this with her in the room or where she could hear,
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  Speaker 1: that you dread end up being the trips where you
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  Speaker 1: make the best memories.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so you have been on a trip without me before,
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  Speaker 2: when you guys went to Disney when I was down
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  Speaker 2: in the back, that's true. And I forced you guys
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  Speaker 2: to go, and you guys had a blast. Then we did.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, I would say that you shouldn't be so
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  Speaker 2: co dependent on me because I could just be like
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  Speaker 2: mister bog Jangles dog and just up and die.
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  Speaker 1: Stop stop stop stop, so stop. Okay, No, there will
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  Speaker 1: be no dying.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't say dying. I said up and die.
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  Speaker 1: There will be no up and dying or down and dying.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But so I'm determined. She and I it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a great little mommy daughter trip. We're going to spend
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  Speaker 1: a ton of money.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, wait, wait, we gotta I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 2: you cash.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a cash envelope and once you
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  Speaker 2: run out of that, you come home.
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  Speaker 1: So I did talk to my counselor you know, about
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  Speaker 1: my anxiety, and she said, go and when the vacation
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  Speaker 1: stops working for me, then it's done, and come home
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  Speaker 1: so we may be home early.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that would just ruin my plans sitting around and
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  Speaker 2: being lazy a week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, you know what my plan. My plans are literally
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  Speaker 2: to work twelve hours a day while you're going.
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  Speaker 1: Don't forget about Gary.
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  Speaker 2: Who's Gary.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to need to be checked on.
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  Speaker 2: Gary the Cat?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Gary the podcast Cat.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna put in a lot of hours.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I could take him with us, but.
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  Speaker 2: I'll make sure i'm home before the coyotes come to
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  Speaker 2: get you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, please?
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  Speaker 2: So uh yeah, So to two years in a row,
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  Speaker 2: I have ruined spring break.
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  Speaker 1: I mean for yourself, because we've rebounded.
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  Speaker 2: I think you guys, I think it's ruined for you
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  Speaker 2: guys too, because I'm the life of the party.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you definitely are the driver of the.
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  Speaker 2: Party, you guys. So here's something that I can guarantee.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh, you guys will have much more fun on
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  Speaker 2: the drive down there than you would if I were going.
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  Speaker 1: So let me tell you. When I was growing up,
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  Speaker 1: my dad always said that the vacation started when you
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  Speaker 1: pulled out of the driveway because his dad, who had
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  Speaker 1: fought in World War two and Patten's Third Army, made
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  Speaker 1: my dad pee in a bottle on trips in the backseat.
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  Speaker 1: There was no stopping. So I'm a big fan of
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  Speaker 1: the trip starts when you pull out of the driveway.
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  Speaker 1: Jim is not like that, and I have learned over
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  Speaker 1: the years, and I have taught emmy. You have to
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  Speaker 1: start cunning back on your liquids the night before you leave,
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  Speaker 1: so basically you ride in the car dehydrated so you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to stop.
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  Speaker 2: Say, it might be best if you guys would, uh
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  Speaker 2: like maybe like run like a half marathon the night
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  Speaker 2: before and then not refill yourselves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Because my goal is to stop when I have to
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  Speaker 2: get gas. And when I have to get gas, you're
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  Speaker 2: allowed to go to the bathroom and that's it, and
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  Speaker 2: that is it.
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  Speaker 1: Where I'm more like, oh, shiny, let's go see what
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, So now my goal is to make it
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  Speaker 2: there as fast as humanly possible. Yeah, and then on
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  Speaker 2: the way home to get home as fast as humanly possible.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Yes, I know, and that's just to me,
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  Speaker 1: not fun at all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm the only one that's like.
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  Speaker 1: So we may actually leave to come home a day early,
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  Speaker 1: just so we can like slowly make our way back.
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  Speaker 2: You can slowly make your way back if you leave
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  Speaker 2: on the day that you were supposed to leave.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but what if I mean, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to drive all night.
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  Speaker 2: So you're going to slowly make your way back and
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  Speaker 2: stay at another hotel. So you're gonna pay for two
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  Speaker 2: hotels for one night, that's what you're saying. Yes, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna double up the price for one night. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 2: why I say leave the day that you're supposed to leave,
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  Speaker 2: and then if you want to stay at a hotel,
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  Speaker 2: then stay at a hotel. It's gonna cost you the
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  Speaker 2: same amount of money no matter what. You just be
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  Speaker 2: gone one extra night.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I see, I see. Okay. So I have a
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  Speaker 1: question for you this I was I was knocking around
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  Speaker 1: some ideas for today's episode, and I came up with
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  Speaker 1: this idea, but I I couldn't get momentum with it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, that's probably like, need more time to
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  Speaker 1: think about this, But I want to tell you my idea,
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  Speaker 1: and you just give me like your gut punch reaction. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: how are we even alive? I want to hear your
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  Speaker 1: most un hinged nineteen eighties childhood story. What you got?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's not what the episode is about.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's not what the episode's about.
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  Speaker 1: No's were you listening at all? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You said I had an idea of about what we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do for the episode. Tell me what your
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  Speaker 2: initial thought is, and then you said.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't feel like I had time to
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  Speaker 1: really flesh out that thought. So that's not what the
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  Speaker 1: episode's going to be about. But I do want to
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  Speaker 1: know what first comes to your mind.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, how am I still alive? I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how I'm still alive.
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  Speaker 1: So I have I have one. Now, this may be nineties.
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  Speaker 1: You can correct me if it's not eighties. But you
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  Speaker 1: and I recently had a conversation that you claim that
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  Speaker 1: used to play basketball.
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  Speaker 2: With gang members that was the nineties?
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  Speaker 1: Was that the nineties? The crips?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, are you going to get killed for talking
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  Speaker 1: about it on this podcast?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, are you sure they're probably
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  Speaker 2: not listening?
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  Speaker 1: They're probably not a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't play basketball with the Crips. I played basketball
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  Speaker 2: in a neighborhood where there was a kid that was
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  Speaker 2: in a gang, and we played with him, and he
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  Speaker 2: was about as nice as could be to us. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he wouldn't as nice as he could be
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  Speaker 2: to his rival gang members.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so I mean that feels pretty much. How are
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  Speaker 1: you even alive nineties editions?
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  Speaker 2: Well that was nineties edition. But I mean it's not
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  Speaker 2: like he was driving the lane and shooting anybody who
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  Speaker 2: tried to block a shot. I mean he was. He
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  Speaker 2: was a cool dude. Like I didn't have an issue
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  Speaker 2: with him, and he didn't have an issue with us.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have anything quite that dramatic to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: But did you ever read the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes.
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  Speaker 2: No you didn't, I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, so do you know the background?
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  Speaker 2: Calvin is a little boy, blondhaired boy, and Hobbs is
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  Speaker 2: his pet tiger, but he's at as imaginary pet tiger.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So they go on adventures and they do daredevil
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  Speaker 1: things in their red wagon. That's what I did. Pp On.
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  Speaker 1: Nanny had a steep hill off to the side of
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  Speaker 1: their house, and I would drag my little red wagon
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  Speaker 1: to the top of the hill and then I would
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  Speaker 1: hop in it and just go flying down the hill
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  Speaker 1: in my red wagon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I got something for you. In the eighties, so
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  Speaker 2: it would snow, and of course we would you like
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  Speaker 2: to go to where there was a nice hill and
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  Speaker 2: go snow sledding. However, if we weren't doing that, if
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  Speaker 2: it was just like during the week and we were
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  Speaker 2: off school or it was the weekend or Christmas break
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, I mean, might be down at my friend's
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  Speaker 2: house who had a super steep hill going down, but
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  Speaker 2: then no kind of level out and then you just went.
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  Speaker 2: But then you just went out into the street. And
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  Speaker 2: so we would just trust each other to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: there aren't any cars coming and you could go. But
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  Speaker 2: we would go flying like Clark Griswold style, oh, flying
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  Speaker 2: down into the street. And it wasn't like it was
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  Speaker 2: a slow hill that just kind of flattened out, like
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  Speaker 2: it was just almost straight down and then boom, it
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  Speaker 2: just became like flat. And so I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: not that I'm alive, but how I'm not in a wheelchair?
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's it. So I would go flying down the
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  Speaker 1: hill and the only thing that could stop me was
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  Speaker 1: the monkey grass at the bottom of the hill. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe what that is,
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  Speaker 1: but she used it as basically a divider between the
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  Speaker 1: yard and the garden, because they had a huge garden,
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  Speaker 1: and so it would send me. I'd hit the monkey grass,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm sure is not a scientific name for that plant,
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  Speaker 1: but I would hit it and go airborne into the garden.
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  Speaker 1: It was, you know, I mean, there was like nothing
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  Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, I think it's safe to say Emmy's
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  Speaker 1: never had that experience, and I feel like she's been
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  Speaker 1: short changed now.
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  Speaker 2: The only time that we tried to give Emmy an
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  Speaker 2: experience that we had as kids was the time I
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  Speaker 2: piled up a bunch of big leaves and said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we used to go jumping in this, and she went
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  Speaker 2: and jumped in it, and she just happened to cut
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  Speaker 2: her hand open on some sticks that were underneath the leaves,
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  Speaker 2: and then she was crying. And then she looked at me,
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  Speaker 2: and I think she was what like four years old,
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  Speaker 2: and she was like, guess this wasn't such a good
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  Speaker 2: idea after all, was it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like her.
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  Speaker 2: And so since then, you know, I mean, listen.
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  Speaker 1: She's pretty much stayed inside.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's coddled, right like, yeah, children are now, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's she's very coddled, and so uh, yeah, she has
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  Speaker 2: not experienced anything like that at all.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm an only child. So for ninety percent of
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  Speaker 1: the time, it was just me going down the hill
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  Speaker 1: and my red whie and by myself. But occasionally I
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  Speaker 1: would get a cousin and maybe there was a bank involved,
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  Speaker 1: and so I got the bright idea, let's take some
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  Speaker 1: rope and let's attach the handle of the little red
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  Speaker 1: wagon to the seat of the bicycle and let the
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  Speaker 1: bicycle toe them. You could pull me down the hill.
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  Speaker 2: That probably didn't work.
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  Speaker 1: Out because then the little red wagon kind of got
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  Speaker 1: up beside the bicycle and that was not anything that
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  Speaker 1: we had anticipated.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it got beside it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the momentum got a hold.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I bet that wasn't good.
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  Speaker 1: Now it didn't end well, No, it did not end well.
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  Speaker 2: Luckily though you were in grass and not on concrete.
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's true.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, and then I landed in the garden.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows what I landed on a tomato probably, so okay,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: well that's it, folks. Glad you could join us on
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Children of the Eighties. And I'm joking.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: So are you ready to get to today's episode?
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Are you ready to get started?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Let's get started.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: This is a podcast that looks back on the decade
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighties. We talk about things that were
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: important to us as children and what we look back
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: on with fond memories as adults. Ultimately, this is a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: nostalgia podcast. Jim take it away.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have something that I'd like to say before
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: you get to the topic today.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I know, because I'm middle aged.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Man really more interest, I have another nominee for the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Middle of Aged Man Hall of Fame. After John Lithgow
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: got in last week, I thought that maybe we could
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: possibly sneak somebody else by. Although he may have looked
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: young at one point, for the most part, whenever I
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: saw him he always looked middle aged or older.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, Now, the rules as I know it is, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: can have no memory of this gentleman ever looking young.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, that is correct it I would not like to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: nominate mister Academy Award winner and recently sadly passed away,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: mister Robert Duval. No, he's not in. I mean you,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't even take time to consider it.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I did consider I did take time.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: No, you were just I was like mister Robert Duvall
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and you were like one, two three.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: No, No, I can remember him not an old man.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Not an old man, A middle aged man.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, I can remember him not being a middle aged.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And when was this?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: No, you gotta give me something specific. If you're saying
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that you remember Robert Duval not looking middle aged because
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I saw him in The Godfather, which was nineteen seventy two,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and he looked middle aged, then now maybe you want
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to go back to Uh here's what boo Radley.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So here's what I think you're doing. I think you
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: are mistaking his balding for making him look like a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: middle aged man. Is that what you're doing?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Usually people that are balding, okay, are reaching middle age.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Okay. I have a picture for you of an extremely
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: handsome Robert Duval, and if he ring my doorbell, i'd answer.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: What is wrong with you? Okay?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Still looks middle aged to me, he doesn't.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: But that is definitely a different looking Robert Duval for sure. Yeah, okay,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I'll give it to you. So Robert Duval has been
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: denied access.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I know. No, we're going down this rabbit hole. I
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: got another one for you.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: What do you mean you've got another one for me?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I mean because he covered up his bald head. Yeah,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: he still looks middle age.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Got a goatee, that's handsome.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: He still looks middle aged to me. But all right,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Robert Duval has been denied access to the Middle Aged
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Man Hall of Fame, where he will be banned forever,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: never to be nominated again, never to join. Mister John Lithgower,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: mister Wilford Brimley. So do you, Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That maybe the problem is actually with my thinking because
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: for some reason, I when you say should he become
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: a member of the middle aged Man Club? For some reason,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that feels like almost like an insult, like you were
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: insinuating that he wasn't handsommer. Right, yeah, charisma, Because I'm
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: looking at Wilford Brimley and I'm like, listen, Grandpa, keep
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: your hands to yourself. But okay, and I'm looking at
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: mister Robert Devall and I'm telling you, if he rings
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: my doorbell, I'm going to answer.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you that nobody had more charisma than
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Gene Hackman or Morgan Freeman. Yet they're in the Middle
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Aged Man Hall of Fame because they never they were
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: born a fifty two year old man. They were born
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: a fifty two year old man, and they stayed that
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: way throughout their careers until they got so old that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: they started looking old. Well, Morgan Freeman's still alive, thank god. Sorry,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: we love Morgan Freeman.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Now I'm denying it, I'm still he's denied.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean you've already said that, you've already closed
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the doors on it. There's no need to keep talking
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: about it. You can't deny somebody and then think about it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: It's denying.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: You either think about it and then accept or deny.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: But you don't deny and then think about it. That's backwards,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: ma'am minand denying. So Robert Daval was my dad's favorite actor. Really, yes,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: my dad loved him so so. Robert Deval has been
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: in some of the greatest films ever made, The Godfather,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: The Godfather to Apocalypse now for Christmases.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yep, God's in Generals.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: He was not in The Godfather three though, But yeah, do.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: You know what movie my dad loves? This is a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: nineties movie, The Apostle.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I've never seen that.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Well, dad loved it. Maybe you should give it a chance.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, wasn't he in a movie with Kevin Costner? In
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: a western? He was in a western with Kevin Costner?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: He was? He was, Okay, So, how upset are you
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that I denied him?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not upset. I'm fine with it. I mean it
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: was time for a denial at some point.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Well, so it's not like I nominated Rob Lowe or
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Tom Selleck, like because they clearly looked young at one point.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: No, all right, so like you still have given me
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: we are what? What are we in? Twenty five thirty
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: minutes into the show.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Twenty seven minutes in and you have no idea what
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: this episode is going to be about?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: No? None. You texted me and said, I've got this
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: week's episode. You don't need to do anything. All you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: gotta do is react. Yeah, And I said, okay, these
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: are kind of my favorite types of episodes to prepare for,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: because I don't have to do anything. And while I
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: do love the preparation, I feel like time is not
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: on my side. Sorry McJagger, it's not so. I don't
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: have a lot of time to prepare anymore like I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: used to correct.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And we've had a really extra hectic couple of weeks
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: with work stuff for both of us, and so they're
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: just quite honestly, has not been a whole lot of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: extra time. And so this idea just came to me
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: today and I thought, you know what, I'm going to
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: go with it. Because your sister, Jamie, she doesn't like
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: when we do repeats, because occasionally we do have.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: To replay, we have to rerun something.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: We have to do an encore, so it means we
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: have to rerun an episode and that she doesn't like
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: when we do that. And I get it because we
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: don't live, obviously in the same city, and so listening
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to us, it's like she's spending time with us, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: if she has to re listen to an episode, she's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: already heard there's something there that's lacking. So I don't
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: want to disappoint Jamie, and I thought we could do
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a little something. Listen, this is not going to be
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: an award winner. Let me just let me set your expectations.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: You don't have to set my expectations. Well, I'm I
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: have zero.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Well I'm setting the listeners expectations. So I was thinking
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: about that there was a picture that I had seen
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and I thought it was like last year, sometime of
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: three like seventies eighties icons and they were hanging out together. Okay,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you have some vague memory of seeing
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a picture, how do you go about finding it? Okay?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Well it took me a little while, but I found it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: And you know how I said last year. It's the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: first of February. So that tells you how life is
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: going over here at the Butler House. I thought maybe
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like last April, so.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: It was like fifty days ago.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought it was sometime last spring. Alice
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Cooper celebrated his seventy eighth birthday with mister Mick Fleetwood
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and mister Sammy Hagar. And is that a trio that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you ever thought you would see together?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: No, it is not.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And I think I've got a clip here of them
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: singing Happy birthday to him. Now I want you to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: this is Mick Fleetwood, Mick Fleetwood and Sammy Hagar.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: The drummer for Fleetwood Mac. Yes, so I'm going to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: say that I couldn't I couldn't really see it because
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: your phone's so tiny and it's so far away. But
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say that Alice Cooper didn't look to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: be seventy eight, but he also looked like maybe he
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: uses the same guy that Tom Sellick uses for his mustache.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, so Alice Cooper, He's got his typical longish hair,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: but he has some weird mustache. Oh you know who
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: had this this kind of like little pencil mustache.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Raul Julia. Who's that an actor?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Clark Gable from Gone with the.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Wind, Yes, very very similar.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So those I never in a million years when I
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: have said that. That was Mick Fleetwood and Sammy Hagar singer.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mick was looking old, Sammy was looking old. Raul
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Julia is Gomez Adams in the Adams Family movie.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I know, and I knew the name sounded familiar.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: So this episode is going to be the top ten
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: things about each of these gentlemen that you didn't know.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay, I thought you were going to make
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: me come up with the top ten, and I'm like, okay, well,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I could probably name music by those gentlemen.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Alice Cooper, Sammy Hagar, and Mickfleetwood. Who would you want
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: me to start with?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Well, you know our buddies at the Sureley. You can't
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: be serious. Podcast are comparing van Halen's nineteen eighty four,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: which is David Lee Ross's last album with Van Halen,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: and Van Halen's fifty one fifty, which is Sammy's first
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: album with van Halen. And so this week they just
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: did nineteen eighty four. Next week they're doing fifty one
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: to fifty. So let's start off with old Sammy.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: You ready, let's start it off.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Sammy was named after his grandfather on his mom's side,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: whose name was Sam Roy. Okay, Sammy was born in Salinas, California.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: His his family is of Lebanese descent. Okay, I did
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: not know that, did you.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I think I had maybe heard that, but that's not
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: something that I would have pulled out. Like I know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: he's of Lebanese descent.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: With that blonde hair, you never would have thought it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: No, never.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: His dad worked in a steel mill but was also
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a boxer or something Sammy considered doing for himself, but
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: instead chose to pursue music. In nineteen sixty seven, Sammy
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: released his first seven inch single. It featured the songs
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: reach Out to Find Me and Read My Thoughts You
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: put it out as part of the duo Samson and Hagar,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: backed by the Peppermint Trolley Company.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Was he a kid then, because that's like sixty years ago.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. He's born in nineteen forty.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Seven, nineteen forty seven, so he's going to be eighty
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: next year.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Woa wow, how old are you?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Very? Apparently Okay.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: When Sammy went solo after he was briefly in a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: group called Montrose, he had a hit with the song Red, which,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: along with his red guitar and red pants, led to
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: his nickname the Red Rocker.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Sammy was set to open for Boston at a gig
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: during their nineteen seventy nine tour, but he was replaced
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: by The Knack. Nineteen seventy nine, that's the year I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: was born.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, My, Sharona.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Eddie Van Halen's car mechanic did you know? This suggested
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that he brings Sammy into Van Halen to fill the
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: singer spot following David Lee Roth's departure.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I did know that.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Sammy has been part of quite a few supergroups. In
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, he formed HSAS with Journeys Neil Shown, Everybody,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Fog Hats, Kenny Aronson and Santana's Michael Shreve.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Well, look at that. I did not know that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and two he joined planned Us with
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Shown Michael Anthony and Journey drummer Dean Castronovo and later
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Joe s Strianni. There you go. In two thousand and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: eighty four chicken Foot, which I did know that. So
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like, at least I've got I've got that
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: going for me, which included the Red Hot Chili Peppers,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: drummer Chat Smith.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: So and a little about chicken Foot.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Throughout his career, Sammy has dipped his toes into different
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: business ventures. Okay, so, he's owned a Mountain bike store.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: He created the Cabo Wabbo brand, which owns cantina restaurants
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: in a tequila line, and he started various other restaurants
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and alcohol lines too. But here's the big thing about Sammy.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: That he's partners with Rick Springfield in that tequila line.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Uh, they sold cabo wabo? Why do I want to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: call it wabo cabo?
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Or nearly one one hundred million dollars.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: That's a that's a nice chunk could change.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: At this point in his life, he has made more
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: money off tequila than he has music.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But the question becomes, has he made more money off
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: tequila than he spent on together?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Now there you go. I don't know about that, but no,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: think one one hundred million dollars.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: J that's a doctor evil type money there.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's insane. Okay. Oh, here's one more.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: He played a bartender at a gay bar on a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight episode of Nash Bridges, which starred Don Johnson. Okay,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I can't drive fifty five? Do you know where that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: comes from? The inspiration for that? Yes?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I do. He was pulled over for doing like fifty
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: nine or sixty two or something.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: He was pulled over for doing drive sixty two in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a fifty five yeah mile per hour zone in the Adirondacks.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Yep, I did know that one.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. Can we just go back to one
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: hundred million?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yes? Of course. I would always like to have one
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: hundred million.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I just I can't quite get over that. So I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: have a question about this. Hankar has stated that he
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: decided to stop lying completely, even in small situations, as
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: a life philosophy.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Stop lying completely, so he would just lie for no reason.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: That's my question. How often was he going around lying?
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Maybe he wasn't maybe, but he told, you know, some
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: lies or something. I don't know, and he decided to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: stop lying as a life forlosophy.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: How often how many times a day do you lie?
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the thing.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm in finance, so probably a lot.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: No, you're supposed to they never Yeah, there was just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: something about that that made me want to be like, well,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: how many times was he lying? And everything that I
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: googled it kept pointing out, So I don't.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Know why he kept lying.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: You can't handle the truth? There you go, because people
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: couldn't handle it. Everything that I kept looking up about
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar kept pointing out that he has a cousin
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: who is a Christian music metal singer, Ken Tamplin. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I don't find that the least been interesting, But at
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: some point, if you see it over and over again,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you start to think, well, maybe I should mention it.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: So I guess you were seeing it over and over again.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: In your research. Yes, every thing that I did that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: would pop up, and so at some point I'm just like, Okay,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: well let me throw that out there, because maybe that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: means something to somebody who knows, does not mean anything
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to me. So of the three, who do you think
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: is the most talented?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness, I'm good. I don't know what do
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: you mean by talent. So I've always been impressed by
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: anybody who can play the drums, So I'm impressed by
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Mick Fleet would being able to play the drums. Alice
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Cooper can sing, he can play the guitar, but more
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: than anything, he just puts on like a great performance.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: So that's impressive, and that's a talent in and of itself.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: But Sammy can wail, and he can obviously play the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: guitar too, so and apparently he can make tequila for
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: a hundred million dollars. So I'm probably gonna go with
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Sammy on this one.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So let me just say I've done a quick little
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: look up on him. Apparently he lied a lot in
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: his first marriage and when that fell apart is when
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: he decided he would stop lying. And I guess he
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: lied a lot about his uh, what's what's a good
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: family friendly? His conquests, yeah, his his lifestyle, yes, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: so's on the road.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: On the road again. It's not like he was lying
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: about not eating that donut.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah right now. He was lying about some some bigger,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: more serious thing. So that's what led to him deciding
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna lie anymore. And can I just say
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: he's got really good skin for such an old man.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that picture isn't photoshopped or anything.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: What's a video?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure the video isn't photoshoped.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: How would a video be shot? But he's got good skin.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: If I had one hundred million dollars, I could have
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: good skin. Well yeah, okay, okay, So next we're gonna
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: go on to Mick Fleetwood. I find Mick Fleetwood to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: be an odd bird. Do you think that's unfair?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know much about Mick Fleetwood other than he's
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the drummer for Fleetwood Mac.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, So he was also born in nineteen forty seven.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: He began his musical journey at age seven by tapping
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: on furniture.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: That sounds about right. I mean, I didn't know that,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: but you know, anybody who's going to be a drummer
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: probably has a tapping habit.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: It a tapping habit, tap, tapo root, Just give it
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a little tappy.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: In nineteen seven, after leaving the band, briefly he worked
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: as a grave digger because he felt money was evil.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, probably didn't like Sammy's one hundred million
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: for tequila then did he.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Known to be the godfather of the band Fleetwood Mac.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: He famously engaged in wild parties, including naked horse rides
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: through Malibu in earlier days.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Not really something I'd want to see.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Naked, okay, naked horse rides through Malibu.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Probably I'm not real pleasant for the horses either, Okay.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: He appeared in an episode of Star Trek the Next
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Generation as like some kind of alien.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Creat Yeah, I could see that. I could totally see that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: He also appeared in the nineteen eighty seven film The
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Running Man. He did despite the massive success of rumors,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: he declared bankruptcy in the eighties due to poor investments
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and financial mismanagement.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Would that financial management include plenty of white snowy Powder, I.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Would think so. He and John McVie played on Warren
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Zevon's famous song were Wolves of London.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Really, yes, I did not know that.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I knew you would love that. He owned a restaurant
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: called Fleetwoods on Front Street in Maui, which was unfortunately
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: destroyed in the twenty twenty three Hawaii wildfires.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I did not know that either.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: He often describes his drumming style as lacking technical discipline
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: but being highly unconventional. I would say, if you lack
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: technical discipline, you would be highly unconventional.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about Fleetwood Mac because for
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, that was just not a band that was
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: really on my radar before I met you. But one
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: thing that always kind of grabs me about him is
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the fact of how tall he is. So he's six
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: foot six.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a super tall drummer.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: And he drums standing up, which is now that is
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: very unusual.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Keith Moon of the who did that as well. Really yes,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I think I would get tired standing up for three
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: straight hours if your playing a long.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Time, I get that way where I get I'm lazy
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: and I want to sit down.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I sit down during a forty five
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: minute podcast, I'm probably not stand up for three hours
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: worth of drumming. So you know how Fleetwood Mac got
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: their name, right? No, Fleetwood right, Mick Fleetwood Yeah, and
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: John macvee mcvee Fleetwood Mac.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Do you think that Fleetwood Mac is one of the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: best band names of all time.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: For being named after people? Absolutely?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm just saying in general, for.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Being people's names. It is and it doesn't sound like
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: people's names, So yeah, I would. I would say, yeah.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: They're also like to me there, I wouldn't say they're
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: like one of my top ten bands, but they're definitely
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: in the top twenty five. Did you know that Lindsay
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Buckingham and Stevie Nicks weren't original members of Fleetwood Mac.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: They joined Fleetwood Mac I did not name, and that's
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: when they really became Fleetwood Mac.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: There's something about some wooden Cahony's I don't even know what, okay.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: On the cover of the Rumors album there are two
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: wooden circular things hanging from his crotch. Have you never
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: seen that?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: No, I've never paid a tink in to that album cover.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: He's kept them, and he travels with them.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: This is yeah, okay, I.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Thought you were giving me ten interesting facts, not ten
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: weird freaky out thought that that might scar me forever.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Okay. They were actually repurposed toilet chains that he took
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: from a club in the band's early days. They became
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: a staple of his stage attire, and they were sold
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: at auction in twenty twenty two for one hundred and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: twenty eight thousand dollars.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: He's a little bit short of a Sammy's one hundred million.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Mick Fleetwood sold his balls for a hundred twenty thousand dollars. Oh,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: so that he stole them?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there was one time where I was
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: walking out of Arby's and they asked you to ring
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: the bell, and I pulled so hard on the bell
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: that it ripped off, and I didn't mean to, and
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I was too embarrassed to take it back, so I
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: just walked out with it.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: You walked out with the bell.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Or the string? I don't remember one of the two.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Gosh, so he described them as a good luck charm.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Did you keep the bell or the string as a good.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I mean rumors became one of the biggest selling albums
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: of all time, so obviously it was a good luck charm.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And yes, it was at my desk, and either my
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: buddy my buddy Bob has it now.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: So who would pay one hundred and twenty eight grand?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Listen? There are people out there that will pay for
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: anything if you find the right person with the right
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: whatever you're selling.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, So this all started because it was Alice cooper
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: seventy eight birthday and I saw the picture a year
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: ago on social media and turns out it was just
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: like the first part of February. But the three of
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: them apparently are friends. I wonder what brought the three
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: of them together, Like, who who's the glue? There?
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Music? Music brought I mean, no doubt it was music.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: But still Alice is the glue?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You think, Alice, I think the glue. I mean it
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: could be I don't have any answer.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I don't either, but that's that's my guest.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: So I asked Chad Gpt who was the glue, and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it said Sammy was the glue because Sammy has had
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: his hands in so many different bands over the years
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that it would naturally be him. There's no right or
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: wrong answer. I have no idea, Alice.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going with Alice.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Alice Cooper. The band started in Arizona back in nineteen
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: sixty four. Okay, so, although they didn't change the name
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: of the band to Alice Cooper until sixty eight, back
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: then they were known as the Spiders in naz The
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Spiders and Nas Tell me that's not random? Is it?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Nas? The name of the lady who cuts my hair?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, Alice Cooper is a fantastic golfer.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: I've heard that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Actually, as of twenty twenty five, Cooper is a five handicap.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have no idea.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: When I get on the golf course, I just look handicap.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Alice Cooper was signed to a deal with Frank Zappa
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Straight Records in nineteen sixty nine, where they released their
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: debut album, Pretties for You and Alice Cooper once said
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: in an interview, when we first played our stuff for
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Frank Zappa, he listened to it and it was very complicated.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: The songs were only two minutes long, but thirty eight
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: changes in a song and he had sit there and
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: he goes, I just don't get it, and I went
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: you don't get what, And he said, I'm Frank Zappa
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: and I don't get it. So there you go. Alice
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Cooper is the name of the band, but he also
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: legally changed his name to Alice Cooper at some point.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: He was born Vincent for near.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I believe I've heard that before so is, but I
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: would not have pulled that out.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: In an interview, Alice Cooper described how the origins of
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: his makeup were inspired by Betty Davis's makeup in the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: movie Whatever Happened to Baby Jane.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: He's got Betty Davis eyes.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, listen to this. Betty Davis and Alice Cooper
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: were actually neighbors at one point.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: And why didn't he write, Buddy David are no?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: But I don't. His snakes and stuff freaking me out?
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: What about the guillotine at a show?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I have an issue with that. In nineteen sixty nine,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: a chicken thrown on stage during Alice Cooper's performance was
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: torn apart by the audience. Headlines wrongly claimed that Cooper
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: killed the chicken, which actually helped boost his shock rock fame.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Despite his dark on stage image, he is actually a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: devout Christian who attends church with his family and calls
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: himself a born again Christian.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I think I had heard that somewhere.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy three, artist Salvador Dolly created a three
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: D hologram of Cooper's brain with a chocolatey clear on it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's not weird.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Alice Cooper's father and grandfather were ministers in the Jesus
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Christ of Latter day Saints movement or religion Mormon Mormonism.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: That's what that is.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy eight, he purchased one of the letters
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: for the refurbished Hollywood Sign in memory of his friend
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Graucho Marx.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, he was friends with growd show.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Merch Graucho were good friends. Which that's an odd little duo.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: It is an odd duo, Okay.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Due to severe alcoholism in the early nineteen eighties, Cooper
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: has no memory of recording some of his albums in
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: the seventies.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Really no memory, but he knows the songs.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Yes. So he actually says that the fact that he
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: gave up alcohol and he never had any cravings for
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: alcohol after he gave it up, that he owes all
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: of that to God. That was like a a.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Healing of right, right, He couldn't do it himself, so
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: he depended on a high power, which is what a
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: lot of alcoholics anonymous kind of I think, does that right? Right,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: can't do it yourself, so you gotta admit there's a
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: higher power.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: So I can't quite get past the whole He's this
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: one thing on stage and he's just something totally else
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: off stage. That's crazy to me. But they say that
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: he refers to himself in the third person to separate
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: his his stage persona from who he truly is.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So it's no different than being an actor.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've got some favorite things of mine about
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Alice Cooper, but I'll wait till you're done.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, what you got So.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: My favorite things about Alice Cooper. School's out for the summer. Yeah,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I love that when school was out when I was
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: a kid, and all the radio stations would play it,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And now the radio stations suck, so I must play
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: it when I go pick emmy up for the last
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: day of school each year, and embarrassed a tar outom.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Which you do, I do, And that's now like our
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: little tradition. I guess.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's see teenage Frankenstein, Uh huh, which was an
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: eighty song, Poison, which was also an eighty song. And
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: then who can forget his appearance in Wayne's World? Who
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Alice Cooper?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that?
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Well here here's what he said in Wayne's World. So
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: do you come to Milwaukee often?
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: were coming here as early as the late sixteen hundreds
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: to trade with the Native Americans.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: In fact, is at Milwaukee Indian name.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Espte it is Actually it's pronounced Meliwaukee, which is Elgon
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: for the good Land.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: See now, wasn't that That's not something you would expect
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: from Alice Cooper?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, those are my four favorite things about Alice Cooper.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: That's cool. Okay, so I understand this was the randomness
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: of an episode, but.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because we're having a hard time getting three
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: people to get together to finish our tournament here. So
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: if you're listening and you can join us next week podcast.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Friends, I've lined Emmy up.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Let us know. Oh you've lined Amy up?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, so then we should be good listen to this.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Mick Fleetwood admitted that during the height of his drug use,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: he would spend roughly eight million dollars on drugs, holding
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: eighth thousands of month coke habit while also facing falling
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: income from the band, obviously, and that's what ultimately led
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: to his bankruptcy.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: That is just utterly insane. Now, that's a crazy person.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: That is a crazy person.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a miracle that these people, some of
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: these people are still alive.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I know, I can't get over it. And you look
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: at like, I don't know, like Keith Richards.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's like older than Moses.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: And I mean he's still out there getting it done.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, Whi's good for him, but my goodness.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: In fact, I believe Keith Richards was part of General
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: core Wallace's unit when they surrendered to George Washington at Yorktown.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, we're we're gonna get this cartoon theme
• 53:02
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• 53:05
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• 53:09
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• 53:12
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• 53:20
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