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What is German New Medicine? · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: It was a door a laker. Thank you for joining
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Speaker 1: me in the trenches.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me.
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Speaker 1: I've spent quite a long time trying to find somebody
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Speaker 1: who knows a lot about German new medicine, and it's
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Speaker 1: quite difficult. And it seems to me that it's not
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Speaker 1: a terribly well known con Any idea why that might be.
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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of the information has been suppressed. Doctor
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Speaker 2: Harmer had a very difficult time right from the beginning.
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Speaker 2: He was censored to a great extent. Yeah, he would
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Speaker 2: want to speak at a venue and they would close
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Speaker 2: the venue down, police on the at the entrance. So yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was very difficult for him. In the beginning. He
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Speaker 2: was much religned in the process, you know, So there
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Speaker 2: was an attempt to destroy his reputation and his character.
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Speaker 1: But knowing that immediately makes one want to know more
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I did as soon as I heard about it.
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Speaker 2: It was like a revelation. It was quite extraordinary. After
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Speaker 2: being a natural medicine for fourteen years and we were
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Speaker 2: involved in you know, a diet and cleansing and detoxes,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, herbs and vitamins, but then all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden Hammer appeared and he answered all of
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Speaker 2: the questions we had in the process of working with patients.
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Speaker 2: So it's quite extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: What is your background, Well.
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Speaker 2: It depends which background you're looking at. I started off
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Speaker 2: as an opera singer and I performed until around nineteen
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Speaker 2: ninety eight. So, but the family business was in natural
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Speaker 2: medicine since nineteen eighty one, and I was quite heavily involved.
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Speaker 2: And my husband is a clinical herbalist, so we studied
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Speaker 2: together and in the beginning I saw patients and worked
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Speaker 2: with them with you know, the usual detoxes and herbs,
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Speaker 2: et cetera diet and then I kept pursuing my career
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Speaker 2: until ninety two when I was introduced to doctor Hammer's
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Speaker 2: work and it was a set of tapes. It's a
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Speaker 2: three hour lecture that Dr Hammer gave an Innsbruck in
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Speaker 2: eighty nine and I had it on a pile of
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Speaker 2: tapes in my car for the longest time before I
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Speaker 2: actually listened to it. And that was a moment that
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Speaker 2: changed everything.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by changed everything, Well, the.
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Speaker 2: Way we saw medicine. It was in German, so as
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Speaker 2: doctor Hammer was speaking, I was interpreting for my husband,
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Speaker 2: and we just looked at each other and said, Wow,
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Speaker 2: it's the missing link, you know. Doctor Hammer explained the
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Speaker 2: cause of disease and how a disease naturally progresses if
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Speaker 2: it's allowed to go through what he calls the healing fait.
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Speaker 2: So it certainly answered a lot of questions for us
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Speaker 2: with some of the diseases that we were dealing with.
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Speaker 2: My father was a great example of that. We thought
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Speaker 2: that a heart attack which took my father's life, a
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Speaker 2: heart attack was because your arteries were clogged. It had
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Speaker 2: nothing to do with that. It had to do with
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Speaker 2: what we call an epileptic or epileptoid crisis, which is
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Speaker 2: a healing crisis of sorts. It's a turning point. But
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Speaker 2: some diseases, of course, when we're looking at the heart,
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Speaker 2: when the heart goes through that massive kind of a stress,
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Speaker 2: it can take your life. So these epileptic or epileptoid
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Speaker 2: crises are a moment in time where your survival is
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Speaker 2: determined in some cases. So when we understood the nature
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Speaker 2: of the conflict in my father had a coronary infact,
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Speaker 2: which meant that there were some artery involved. And doctor
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Speaker 2: Hamer explained that a territorial loss conflict had something to
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Speaker 2: do with that. So we looked at my father's life.
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Speaker 2: He died about six years earlier, very suddenly, and he
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Speaker 2: was doing everything right according to us. He was on
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Speaker 2: a raw food diet and cleansing diet, he took herbs meditated,
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Speaker 2: and yet he died of a massive heart attack. But
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Speaker 2: that was the healing crisis that took his life, and
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Speaker 2: we didn't understand that until Hamer explained it to us.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's go back to basics. What is German
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Speaker 1: new medicine.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's the discovery that your experience in life, if
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Speaker 2: it is unanticipated, will simultaneously affect the brain, the psyche,
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Speaker 2: and the organ in a split second. And this is
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Speaker 2: a process that we call the DHS. This is after
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Speaker 2: doctor Harmer's son, who died tragically at the hands of
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Speaker 2: the Italian Crown Prince Victory Manuel Dirk Hamer syndrome DHS.
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Speaker 2: And it was because of that that doctor Harmer developed
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Speaker 2: a testicular cancer, which he almost didn't survive because of
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Speaker 2: the repercussions of the surgery. But yes, so an unanticipated
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Speaker 2: event registers in the brain and simultaneously affects the organ,
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Speaker 2: and it's the psyche that actually first perceives this event.
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Speaker 2: So depending on how you perceive it, that will determine
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Speaker 2: precisely what part of the brain and what organ will
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Speaker 2: be affected.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so take me through through the basics. I understand
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Speaker 1: that there are five biological laws.
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Speaker 2: Well, the first biological law involves this moment in time
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Speaker 2: when we have the shock the DHS. It's actually called
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Speaker 2: the iron rule of cancer. The second biological law explains
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Speaker 2: the actual disease process from the moment in time that
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Speaker 2: you have the biological shock right through to the end
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Speaker 2: of what we call the healing phase. The third biological
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Speaker 2: law is the ontogenetic system of tumors, where doctor Hamer
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Speaker 2: actually discovered that different areas of the brain controlled different
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Speaker 2: cellular structures or germ layers in our body, and this
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Speaker 2: is what will determine whether or not we will have
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Speaker 2: a cancer process or what he calls a cancer equivalent disease,
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Speaker 2: which is really just a functional disturbance such as diabetes
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Speaker 2: for example. Then the fourth biological law explains how all
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Speaker 2: of these microbes play a role in our bodies, in
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Speaker 2: particular in the healing phase. And the fifth biological law
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Speaker 2: is the quintessence, in other words, the biological meaning behind
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Speaker 2: every disease manifestation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the terminology matters. So for example, when you
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Speaker 1: say disease manifestation, what does that mean.
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Speaker 2: For example, well, for example, a skin condition, we call
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Speaker 2: that a disease right ezema, which is actually a healing phase.
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Speaker 2: So during the conflict active phase of some cellular structures,
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Speaker 2: we don't have any symptoms whatsoever. But as soon as
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Speaker 2: we go into the healing phase, in other words, resolve
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Speaker 2: the conflict, this is when we'll have the physical problem.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And for example, you say, you say conflict, Okay,
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Speaker 1: so let's unpack that a little bit. What do you
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Speaker 1: mean by conflict.
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Speaker 2: Well, biological conflicts are different from psychological conflicts in the
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Speaker 2: sense that we need to have that unanticipated event in
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Speaker 2: order for the brain and the body to become involved. Right, So,
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Speaker 2: for example, let's take a starvation conflict, which would give
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Speaker 2: us a liver tumor or multiple liver tumors. As soon
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Speaker 2: as we have a situation in our lives that we
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Speaker 2: didn't expect. For example, you lose your job and you
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Speaker 2: were the soul breadwinner. You had a couple of mortgages
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Speaker 2: on your house and payments on the car, utilities, et cetera,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. You're living months to month. If you lose
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Speaker 2: that income, what would happen. It's financial ruin, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: So we are looking at a possibility of starvation, either
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Speaker 2: for yourself or for your family, in which case the
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Speaker 2: liver would become involved. Another example would be if a
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Speaker 2: patient is on traditional chemotherapy and they're unable to eat
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Speaker 2: and they are literally starving, they're emaciating, they're starving. The
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Speaker 2: liver can become involved in that sense as well. So
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Speaker 2: it's a very real conflict, very important that threatens your survival.
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Speaker 2: And this is when we will develop a liver cancer.
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Speaker 2: It's the precise nature of the conflict that is going
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Speaker 2: to determine what part of the brain is affected and
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Speaker 2: simultaneously what organ that is connected with that specific brain relay.
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Speaker 3: Now, what's interesting is.
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Speaker 2: That as soon as the conflict is resolved, in the
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Speaker 2: case of a liver cancer, whatever tumors had developed or
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Speaker 2: growths had developed during that conflict active phase, they actually
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Speaker 2: stop growing.
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Speaker 1: Breast cancer, which is quite common. Now there's something they
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Speaker 1: to do with nourishment feeding.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think what you were describing really is a
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Speaker 2: lobular kind of breast cancer, which has to do with nurturing.
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Speaker 2: Then we have the introductial breast cancer, which involves the
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Speaker 2: milk ducts, and in that case this is a completely
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Speaker 2: different conflict. It has to do with separation. So if
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Speaker 2: we compare the tissues that are affected when you have
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Speaker 2: a lobular cancer, this involves the breast gland and anything glandular.
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Speaker 2: You will have a cell mitosis during the conflict active phase,
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Speaker 2: in other words, enlargement of the gland. But as again,
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Speaker 2: as soon as the conflict is resolved, the growth stops.
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Speaker 2: And depending on whether or not you have the microbes
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Speaker 2: in your system to degrade what had grown, that will
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Speaker 2: determine whether or not it's going to become smaller and
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Speaker 2: in a lot of cases disappear, or if it will
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Speaker 2: become what is commonly known as an adenoma, which is benign.
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Speaker 2: Then in contrast to that, we have the milk duct
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Speaker 2: which actually during the conflict actor phase we have no symptoms,
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Speaker 2: with the exception of the stress. We have alcerations occurring
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Speaker 2: inside the milk duct. And as soon as you resolve
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Speaker 2: the conflict, this is when the restoration of those ulcerations
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Speaker 2: will take place, and this is what you call an
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Speaker 2: introductile breast cancer, when in fact it's really just a
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Speaker 2: swelling of the tubes that transport milk. It's not actually
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Speaker 2: a tumor that's developing in milk ducts.
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Speaker 1: I was chatting to somebody close to me, you know,
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Speaker 1: leading up to this conversation with you, and she was
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Speaker 1: saying to me that her mom died of leukemia, and
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Speaker 1: she said that she actually believes that her mom brought
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Speaker 1: it on to herself, because what happened was she had
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Speaker 1: retired from a job that she really enjoyed and ended
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Speaker 1: up not knowing what to do with her life, and
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Speaker 1: of course it brought on depression and anxiety and all
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Speaker 1: sorts of other things. Do you think that there is
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Speaker 1: some sort of connection there.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's possible, but we have to also understand that
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Speaker 2: leukemia is a healing phase. It's a recovery phase of
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Speaker 2: the bone mary, which bone marrow which was destroyed during
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Speaker 2: the conflict activity. So unless she had some symptoms before,
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Speaker 2: you know, perhaps a low white blood cells or anemia
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Speaker 2: or low red cells, she would have had to have
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Speaker 2: a DHS to determine the leukemia and when it would develop,
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Speaker 2: it's a healing phase, so she must have come to
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Speaker 2: terms with something. Now, what's interesting about these healing phases
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Speaker 2: that present us with serious illnesses like a breast cancer
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Speaker 2: or in some cases a mild up cancer, or a
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Speaker 2: bronchial carcinoma, or a bladder cancer, or you name it,
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Speaker 2: a leukemia. But what happens is is that you can
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Speaker 2: be in conflict for years and not have any symptoms,
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Speaker 2: but as soon as you come to terms with it,
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Speaker 2: this is when the disease manifestation will take place. So
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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem fair, does it.
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: But I think this is where where we get very
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Speaker 2: confused in gn M, because we have been programmed to believe,
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Speaker 2: or conditioned to believe, by traditional medicine, that everything has
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Speaker 2: to be fatal if it's diagnosed as a cancer, when
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Speaker 2: in fact it's completely wrong. You know. I think if
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Speaker 2: people really understood the five biological laws and what doctor
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Speaker 2: Hamer discovered before they were diagnosed with anything, they would
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Speaker 2: look at it with different eyes altogether. They would perceive
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Speaker 2: that diagnosis differently.
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Speaker 1: So we've been chatting about the triggers and the severity
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Speaker 1: of the conflict and how it connects to the brain
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Speaker 1: and all that area of the brain. But now, in
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Speaker 1: terms of the second law, there are two aspects to it,
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Speaker 1: am I correct.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the law of two phases. So we have a
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Speaker 2: conflict active phase, and this is where the terminology comes
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Speaker 2: in again. Doctor Hammer called that sympathicaltonia. That means that
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Speaker 2: the sympathetic nervous system is affected at that very moment.
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Speaker 2: You're in high alert, you're in a stress phase. And
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Speaker 2: then excuse me, when you resolve that conflict, you go
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Speaker 2: into the healing phase or the vagatonia, and that vagatonia
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Speaker 2: is divided into two. We have the epileptic or epileptoid
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Speaker 2: crisis right in the middle of that, which is the
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Speaker 2: turning point where we are supposed to go back to normaltonia.
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Speaker 2: But again, you know, it really depends on the length
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Speaker 2: of time that you were in conflict and the degree
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Speaker 2: of the healing phase that you were in. If the
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Speaker 2: heart is involved, it could be it could mean a
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Speaker 2: fatal heart attack if you had a conflict that was
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Speaker 2: of long duration. It depends really on the amount of
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Speaker 2: stress that the organ experiences during the conflict active phase. Now,
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Speaker 2: cancer is what we call glandular cancers, or let's say
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Speaker 2: a lung cancer, a liver cancer, a bowel cancer. They're
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Speaker 2: all directed by the oldest part of the brain, and
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Speaker 2: they will all develop tumors during the conflict active phase.
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Speaker 2: But as soon as the conflict is resolved, those tumors
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Speaker 2: will actually stop growing. And like I said before, if
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Speaker 2: you have the microbes the tb mycobacteria in particular in
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Speaker 2: your body, then they will multiply during conflict activity and
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Speaker 2: the body will set them loose as soon as you
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Speaker 2: go into the healing phase, and this is when the
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Speaker 2: degradation of those tumors will begin. For example, a bowel
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Speaker 2: tumor is usually discovered when you have bleeding from the bowels, right,
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Speaker 2: But that's already the healing phase. That means that the
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Speaker 2: tumor is being broken down. It has actually stopped growing
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Speaker 2: at that point. But then that's where when we're diagnosed.
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Speaker 2: So what happens the person has a shock about the diagnosis, right,
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Speaker 2: and this is how a cancer will spread.
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Speaker 1: What is required yet actually is quite a large paradigm.
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Speaker 2: Shift, yes, very much. For me, it wasn't much of
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Speaker 2: a paradigm shift because we were looking for answers. We
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Speaker 2: saw that our methodology of healing was successful in some cases,
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Speaker 2: but not in all cases. And it wasn't until we
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Speaker 2: realized that the successes were in what we call healing phases.
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Speaker 2: So what we really did was support the body in
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Speaker 2: the healing phase to help them to get over a process.
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Speaker 1: But now let's just think back now to the last
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Speaker 1: few years.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe that there was a pandemic, and I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you don't either, but there were people who ended
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Speaker 1: up getting sick, and I suspect that is related to
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Speaker 1: their mental condition because of perhaps all the propaganda and
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Speaker 1: the fear campaigns, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely right. A lot of people breathed a sigh
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Speaker 2: of relief when they came up with a vaccine, believe
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Speaker 2: it or not, whereas others were terrified of it. Right,
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Speaker 2: And people that were terrified of it that were forced
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Speaker 2: to take it or they would lose their job, they're
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Speaker 2: the ones that got sick.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to go onto the third law. Now, what
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Speaker 1: did you call it? I have my notes here.
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Speaker 2: The antogenetic system.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so take me through that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we have essentially three embryonic germ layers that
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Speaker 2: comprise our organs. Okay, we're going into embryology a little
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Speaker 2: bit here. Now, these three germ layers are controlled by
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Speaker 2: four specific areas of the brain. So we have the
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Speaker 2: oldest part of the brain, which is the ponds of
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Speaker 2: the brain stem, which controls the oldest germ layer, which
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Speaker 2: is the endodermal germ layer. Then the second oldest is
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Speaker 2: the cerebellum, which controls the mesodermal or the old mesodermal
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Speaker 2: germ layer. Now, the difference being that all glandular manifestations
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Speaker 2: or organs that were derived from the old intestinal mucosa
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Speaker 2: or organs which dictate our vital function, they are all
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Speaker 2: controlled pretty much by the ponds of the brainstem and
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Speaker 2: in this case the endodermal cells, and in the case
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Speaker 2: of the cerebellum, the old mesodermal cells. What we actually
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Speaker 2: have is a cellular growth during the conflict active phase.
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Speaker 2: So as soon as you have this biological shock, this
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Speaker 2: is when you will have some cell mitosis. Okay, this
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Speaker 2: is what we call a liver tumor or a long
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Speaker 2: tumor or bowel tumor. Okay. The cerebellum controls the skins
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Speaker 2: around our body, the dermis, also the skins inside our body,
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Speaker 2: which is the plura or the peritoneum, or the envelope
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Speaker 2: around the heart which is the pericardium, and it behaves
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Speaker 2: very much like the ponds, where we will have cell
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Speaker 2: mitosis during the conflict active phase. But in both cases,
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Speaker 2: as soon as the conflict resolves, these cells actually stop
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Speaker 2: growing and one or two things can happen. Either the
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Speaker 2: tumor or the growth will remain dormant, or it will
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Speaker 2: degrade with the help of the TB or TV related mycobacterias.
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Speaker 2: So when we go into the later development of the brain,
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Speaker 2: and this really has more to do with how our
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Speaker 2: bodies evolved, and these parts of the brain had to
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Speaker 2: develop to accommodate that. So when we developed a skeletal system,
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Speaker 2: this is when the cerebral medulla came into play. And
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Speaker 2: in this case everything behaves the opposite to the old brain,
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Speaker 2: which is the ponds and the cerebellum. In this case,
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Speaker 2: all of those organs that are connected with the cerebral
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Speaker 2: medulla or the white matter as it's called, those tissues
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Speaker 2: will necritize the moment that you have a biological shock.
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Speaker 2: So let's take the bones for example, If the conflict
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Speaker 2: is very very deep. Then it will go to the
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Speaker 2: bone marrow. And here we're looking at self devaluation conflicts.
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Speaker 2: So when we're looking at that kind of a manifestation,
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Speaker 2: there is an actual suppression of the bone marrow function,
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Speaker 2: and you have low white cells. In many cases you
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Speaker 2: also have low red cells. But we can go about
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Speaker 2: our daily lives like that without a problem. However, as
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Speaker 2: soon as you resolve the conflict to do with the
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Speaker 2: bone marrow, this is when you'll develop what we call
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Speaker 2: a blood disorder known as leukemia. Okay, Now, leukemia will
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Speaker 2: also run its course according to the law of two phases.
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Speaker 2: It's a matter of understanding it correctly and aiding the patient.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps if the red cells are laid in starting up,
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Speaker 2: they may need a blood transfusion towards the end of
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Speaker 2: the healing phase, so on and so forth. But it
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Speaker 2: begins with a necrosis, in other words, no symptoms with
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Speaker 2: the exception of the stress phase. Now we also have
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Speaker 2: the cerebrum, which behaves very very similarly to the cerebral medulla,
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Speaker 2: and in this case what we have is an ulceration
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Speaker 2: that would develop on the organ. So here the cellular
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Speaker 2: structure we're looking at is new mesodermal for the cerebral
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Speaker 2: medulla and ectodermal for the cerebrum, but they behave very
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Speaker 2: very similarly. However, again, the devil sits in the details
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Speaker 2: when we have the healing phase kick in, and this
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Speaker 2: is when you might have a diagnosis of an exema
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Speaker 2: or introductial breast cancer or biled up cancer, et cetera,
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Speaker 2: et cetera.
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Speaker 1: So, but how is it that certain therapies successfully treat
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Speaker 1: those symptoms.
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Speaker 2: Well, therapies will only be successful if you are in
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Speaker 2: the healing phase. This is why sometimes a patient might
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Speaker 2: reverse the cancer if they have chemotherapy, and other patients
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Speaker 2: it may not reverse. Instead, it might grow further.
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Speaker 1: In the actual fact, most cases do that.
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Speaker 2: Well, we need to understand what the patient is going
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Speaker 2: through and is this a metastasis that is as a
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Speaker 2: result of the prognosis et cetera, et cetera, where there
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Speaker 2: is no hope or they've been given a certain amount
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Speaker 2: of time to live, get your affairs in order, et cetera,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Very demoralizing for a patient and I don't
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Speaker 2: know anyone that can overcome it unless they're made.
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Speaker 1: Of steel or something. Some block an aspirin, which treats
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Speaker 1: the symptoms of a headache.
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Speaker 2: Right. Well, you know, we have to understand the way
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Speaker 2: these substances work. They actually fall into the two categories
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Speaker 2: of sympathicaltonia or vagutonia, which is the active phase or
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Speaker 2: the healing phase. So any pain reliever which is anti
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Speaker 2: inflammatory would be sympathicotonic. And what it does is it
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Speaker 2: suppresses the healing phase symptoms. You know, we look at
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Speaker 2: coffee as a remedy for a headache occasionally, right, Why
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Speaker 2: does it work? Well, it works because it's sympathicaltonic. In
27:18
Speaker 2: other words, it's a stimulant. And if you take a
27:22
Speaker 2: stimulant when you are in a deep healing phase, it's
27:25
Speaker 2: going to offset those symptoms.
27:30
Speaker 1: But is that a good or bad thing?
27:32
Speaker 2: Well, if you take a simple remedy, it's a good thing, right,
27:37
Speaker 2: But if you take the drug, it could be a
27:39
Speaker 2: bad thing. There could be repercussions, and serious repercussions in
27:44
Speaker 2: some cases. But you know, we are conditioned to take
27:51
Speaker 2: stuff for what ails us, right. I don't think people
27:54
Speaker 2: are going to change anytime soon in that regard. But
27:59
Speaker 2: then someone like me, if I get a headache, I
28:03
Speaker 2: questioned straight away. Okay, what just happened? Am I in
28:07
Speaker 2: a healing phase? Or am I maybe in an active phase?
28:10
Speaker 2: Because you can have a headache from an active phase
28:12
Speaker 2: as well. So and then I start to work out
28:16
Speaker 2: the problem. So I don't take stuff.
28:21
Speaker 1: But you make a good point. I mean, when my
28:23
Speaker 1: wife was pregnant, she wasn't allowed to take anything. Just
28:26
Speaker 1: about which goes to show exactly does German new medicine
28:33
Speaker 1: apply only to humans or does it also dovetail with animals?
28:37
Speaker 2: Oh no, very much so absolutely, we have to decipher
28:42
Speaker 2: the language that animals are speaking in order to be
28:45
Speaker 2: able to help them. You know, every animal, every species
28:51
Speaker 2: has its own code of behavior. They all have dahs's.
28:57
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the DHS is really meant
29:02
Speaker 2: for us to adapt in some way. If we cannot
29:07
Speaker 2: solve the problem, our bodies will express a good way
29:12
Speaker 2: to adapt to the problem. For example, the liver cancer. Again,
29:18
Speaker 2: you know, this is to help the liver or the
29:22
Speaker 2: body to resorb nutrients more efficiently by developing another part
29:29
Speaker 2: of the liver. In other words, the organ is expanding,
29:32
Speaker 2: it's growing to accommodate the problem. Right to stomach cancer.
29:40
Speaker 2: It secretes digestive enzymes in order to digest that morsel
29:47
Speaker 2: that you have difficulty coming to terms with. You know,
29:51
Speaker 2: we're talking about an indigestible anger for a stomach cancer.
29:55
Speaker 2: Always over the morsel, and the morsel is something that
29:59
Speaker 2: we need to serve.
30:01
Speaker 1: What you're saying is that if a dog has parver
30:03
Speaker 1: or gets cancer late in life, it's also to do
30:07
Speaker 1: with a conflict of sorts.
30:09
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they react exactly the way humans react to a DHS.
30:17
Speaker 2: The circumstances may not be exact, but they do react.
30:22
Speaker 2: I think doctor Hammer also observed animal behavior for quite
30:27
Speaker 2: some time to be able to come to some of
30:31
Speaker 2: his conclusions, you know, and some of those traits cross
30:38
Speaker 2: over to humans, for example a boundary demarcation conflict, which
30:43
Speaker 2: would give us a bladder infection. You know, animals are
30:48
Speaker 2: very territorial in that sense. You know, you take your
30:52
Speaker 2: dog out for a walk, he's going to find a
30:55
Speaker 2: shrub or a tree, and he's going to mark his territory.
30:59
Speaker 2: He's made sure.
31:01
Speaker 1: What German new medicine is proposing is that all of
31:05
Speaker 1: these things that are in our gut, for example, the
31:07
Speaker 1: gut flor, etcetera, these are helpful microbes they're not there
31:11
Speaker 1: to harm.
31:11
Speaker 2: Us, absolutely right. They live in a symbiotic relationship with
31:20
Speaker 2: our bodies, and it's only when we go into any
31:25
Speaker 2: kind of a healing phase. In other words, we've resolved
31:28
Speaker 2: the conflict that they're literally set into motion.
31:34
Speaker 1: So when Louis Pasture proposed that we take germs out
31:38
Speaker 1: of milk, it was a very bad idea.
31:42
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, But I think didn't he recant his own theory.
31:46
Speaker 2: His work is in Princeton University, and he did recount
31:52
Speaker 2: everything that he had discovered.
31:54
Speaker 1: He was a fraud.
31:56
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, he was a fraud. So really the Germans
32:00
Speaker 2: is based on fraudile in facts.
32:04
Speaker 1: But let's just stay on that for a second, because
32:06
Speaker 1: that's pretty important. I mean, just about all milk that
32:08
Speaker 1: you buy today is pasteurized, and everything that's happened over
32:13
Speaker 1: the last few years has been about microbes attacking us. Right,
32:19
Speaker 1: it's all nonsense.
32:21
Speaker 2: Well, it's big business. I think you've interviewed others that
32:27
Speaker 2: agree with you, right, that it is all nonsense, that it.
32:31
Speaker 3: Has been misinterpreted, and.
32:33
Speaker 2: It's being taught as such. So you know, scientists these
32:37
Speaker 2: days have little choice but to go with their teaching.
32:40
Speaker 2: They don't ask questions anymore, you know, which is unfortunate,
32:45
Speaker 2: and people like doctor Harmer who did ask questions are
32:49
Speaker 2: literally crucified for it. The environment is a reminder of
32:54
Speaker 2: when they had a DHS. You see, when we have
32:58
Speaker 2: a biological show, there are billions of bits of information
33:02
Speaker 2: that are being processed by our psyche. Of course, the
33:09
Speaker 2: most important bits are the ones that will remain and
33:12
Speaker 2: will affect us in the future. These are what we
33:16
Speaker 2: call tracks. So really what happens is is that the
33:20
Speaker 2: moment we have this biological shock, a compartment is created
33:26
Speaker 2: in our psyche or our subconscious mind, and that compartment
33:31
Speaker 2: stores all the information. Now, when we have a second
33:37
Speaker 2: event that is the same or similar, more information will
33:41
Speaker 2: go into that very same compartment. These are what we
33:45
Speaker 2: call tracks, and whenever we are exposed to these tracks
33:50
Speaker 2: or reminders, this is when there is a great potential
33:54
Speaker 2: for us to develop some kind of a physical problem,
33:58
Speaker 2: some kind of enailment. This is really the basis of
34:02
Speaker 2: chronic illnesses.
34:04
Speaker 1: But ilzodor what happens in situations where it appears to
34:09
Speaker 1: be collective, like for example, chicken pox with kids that
34:12
Speaker 1: going to school, or seasonal flu where loads of people.
34:17
Speaker 2: Did in fact have a collective conflict. Chicken pox and
34:21
Speaker 2: measles is all about separation, right, so that it is
34:26
Speaker 2: a healing phase. And what gives it away as a
34:29
Speaker 2: separation is the fact that they would develop a fever.
34:33
Speaker 2: And you will only develop a fever if there is
34:39
Speaker 2: a conflict that was resolved in the sensory cortex of
34:43
Speaker 2: the brain. And the sensory cortex of the brain responds
34:47
Speaker 2: almost exclusively to separation conflicts, so it's in fact the
34:53
Speaker 2: epithelium the outer skin that's affected, and during the conflict
34:57
Speaker 2: active phase, you have these microscopic ulcerations during the stress phase.
35:02
Speaker 2: So let's take, for example, kids that all of a sudden,
35:09
Speaker 2: the teacher leaves and for unknown reasons, and a replacement
35:16
Speaker 2: teacher comes for a couple of months or so, their
35:20
Speaker 2: original teacher returns, and next thing you know, there's a
35:24
Speaker 2: measles or a chicken pox epidemic. That's because they experienced
35:29
Speaker 2: a separation and now the teacher's back and they've resolved
35:34
Speaker 2: the conflict. Okay, but meanwhile we see this or we
35:40
Speaker 2: are convinced that this is something of an epidemic, when
35:46
Speaker 2: in fact, they all had the same kind of.
35:48
Speaker 1: Conflict which is why it happens when they go to
35:53
Speaker 1: school exactly.
35:56
Speaker 2: And I see a lot of people getting sick around Christmas.
36:00
Speaker 2: What do we do at Christmas? Well, we see our
36:04
Speaker 2: families and we take a break, you know, we relax,
36:09
Speaker 2: we put everything behind us, and next thing you know,
36:14
Speaker 2: you're down with the flu. Now, any kind of respiratory
36:20
Speaker 2: ailment lower respiratory that will develop a cough, that will
36:27
Speaker 2: materialize literally within thirty six to forty eight hours after
36:31
Speaker 2: you find a solution to the conflict. So this is
36:35
Speaker 2: a good way to pay attention as to what you
36:39
Speaker 2: resolved because it's in such close proximity to when you
36:42
Speaker 2: get sick. So that's the question that you need to
36:46
Speaker 2: ask yourselves, what just happened? What did I resolve? And
36:51
Speaker 2: there's always a common thread, and that has to do
36:54
Speaker 2: with fear. It's a situation that they've feared.
37:00
Speaker 1: For example, you know that winter is coming, and so
37:03
Speaker 1: you know that you're going to be indoors, it's going
37:06
Speaker 1: to get colder, it's going to be perhaps wet and rainy, snowy, whatever,
37:10
Speaker 1: and so you start preparing mentally for that. But it's
37:14
Speaker 1: not exactly a positive experience.
37:17
Speaker 2: Well that is not a DHS. You see, we have
37:22
Speaker 2: to include that element. Without that, we don't get sick.
37:27
Speaker 2: We're preparing a DHS is means that we're not prepared.
37:36
Speaker 2: In other words, you need to be in a stress
37:39
Speaker 2: phase before you will get sick.
37:44
Speaker 1: Which also explains why not everybody gets sick exactly, because
37:50
Speaker 1: we always talk about who gets sick, but we don't
37:52
Speaker 1: talk about who doesn't get sick.
37:54
Speaker 2: Yes, well, in a family of sick, maybe one or
37:57
Speaker 2: two get sick, maybe they shared experience. Nobody else got sick.
38:02
Speaker 2: How do we explain that if it's contagious.
38:05
Speaker 1: Yes, well, obviously contagion then as nonsense.
38:10
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely absolutely.
38:13
Speaker 3: I mean if we have an open wound, if we have.
38:17
Speaker 2: An open wound and we become we get dirt or
38:21
Speaker 2: something into it, it can become infected or surgical wound.
38:26
Speaker 2: You know, we can introduce microbes into open wounds and
38:29
Speaker 2: it can become infected. But you know, over time, the
38:35
Speaker 2: body deals with it, right the same way you have
38:39
Speaker 2: a cold and a flu. The body deals with it.
38:42
Speaker 2: It's only when we look at history and pandemics and
38:48
Speaker 2: why people died, we have to appreciate that four or
38:52
Speaker 2: five hundred years ago let's say when we had the plague,
38:57
Speaker 2: these people were malnourished. Bodies had absolutely no resistance, you know,
39:04
Speaker 2: so if they got sick and they got a fever,
39:06
Speaker 2: there was always a high chance that they might die.
39:11
Speaker 2: But that's not the case anymore. Right, we're not malnourished.
39:18
Speaker 1: Do you think we have a very impoverished understanding of
39:21
Speaker 1: health and well being?
39:23
Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolutely wrong, absolutely wrong. Everything that we believe
39:30
Speaker 2: or believed up until Hammer was wrong. He stood all
39:36
Speaker 2: of medicine on its head. It's quite extraordinary. And what
39:39
Speaker 2: he discovered in that thirty five years since he understood
39:44
Speaker 2: the first biological law, it's vast, absolutely vast. It changes everything.
39:54
Speaker 3: And this is why there was so much resistance.
39:56
Speaker 2: Because current medicine is is built on misconceptions. How can
40:03
Speaker 2: they possibly have any success when something is built on
40:08
Speaker 2: something that is incorrect.
40:11
Speaker 1: If you ignore medical intervention, how then do you treat
40:17
Speaker 1: something This is an every day example, like a headache, cool, Well, in.
40:24
Speaker 2: Some cases intervention is necessary in serious cases, absolutely, and
40:29
Speaker 2: doctor Hamer agreed with that. He was, after all, a
40:32
Speaker 2: medical doctor. You know, he wasn't some woo woo uh.
40:37
Speaker 2: You know, he was a serious medical doctor. He was
40:41
Speaker 2: the youngest medical doctor to ever graduate medical school in Germany.
40:47
Speaker 2: He was an internist. He worked in psychiatry, so he
40:53
Speaker 2: understood the psyche like and the body like no one else.
40:58
Speaker 2: It was quite extraordinary, and if he didn't know something,
41:02
Speaker 2: he would research and research and research until he figured
41:05
Speaker 2: it out. So the training is all wrong for one, okay.
41:13
Speaker 2: In order for this to change, they have to begin
41:17
Speaker 2: training doctors differently and according to what Hamer discovered. Now,
41:23
Speaker 2: the only way I see that happening is if there
41:26
Speaker 2: are some brave doctors, and there are some. There are
41:29
Speaker 2: some doctors that are in my courses now, some brave
41:33
Speaker 2: doctors that are challenging the system and are doing their
41:38
Speaker 2: own thing. They're working with patients differently because they don't
41:43
Speaker 2: see any results with what they're doing.
41:46
Speaker 1: But why is German numidicine such a threat if it's
41:49
Speaker 1: helping people?
41:50
Speaker 2: Oh well, consider that if everybody that understood GNM at
41:59
Speaker 2: the time that the pandemic hit, do you think they
42:03
Speaker 2: would have successfully vaccinated that many people globally?
42:07
Speaker 1: Yeah?
42:08
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, So we have to be kept stupid, and
42:14
Speaker 2: the only way to do that is to malign the
42:17
Speaker 2: discoverer of what goes against what they're doing. I think
42:24
Speaker 2: there might have been a suspicion. I mean, we already
42:27
Speaker 2: knew that stress was instrumental in making people sick. We
42:35
Speaker 2: know that, but I think he wanted to know why,
42:42
Speaker 2: specifically in particular because his cancer was so precise. It
42:48
Speaker 2: was a testicular cancer and he lost his son. You
42:52
Speaker 2: cannot procreate without the testes, right, so the fact that
42:59
Speaker 2: it affected that part of the body, I think spurred
43:03
Speaker 2: him on to try to understand why he became ill
43:07
Speaker 2: after his son died. And the kind of testicular cancer
43:12
Speaker 2: that he developed develops during the conflict active phase. It
43:17
Speaker 2: doesn't grow when the conflict is resolved. So it was
43:22
Speaker 2: literally within three months that he had the surgery to
43:26
Speaker 2: remove the testicular tumor after Dirk died. And you know,
43:34
Speaker 2: when I first met doctor Homer, this is going back
43:37
Speaker 2: to nineteen ninety nine, I asked him, because I knew
43:42
Speaker 2: his background was traditional, I asked him, you didn't understand
43:46
Speaker 2: G and M when you got sick, why didn't you
43:50
Speaker 2: take chemotherapy? And he said to me, you know, il Zidora,
43:54
Speaker 2: I don't know of any doctor that would subject himself
43:58
Speaker 2: or his family to chemotherapy, and that's why he only
44:03
Speaker 2: had surgery. But even surgery was dangerous for him because
44:08
Speaker 2: he developed a very serious peritoneal infection and he had
44:12
Speaker 2: only I think of five percent of surviving that.
44:16
Speaker 1: So what you're describing as effectively the fifth law, which
44:21
Speaker 1: is that every conflict has a biological meaning, there's a
44:25
Speaker 1: purpose exactly exactly.
44:29
Speaker 2: So that means that, for example, some cancers will develop
44:38
Speaker 2: during the conflict active phase to accommodate or to adapt
44:43
Speaker 2: right to help the individual to adapt to accommodate the conflict,
44:48
Speaker 2: and then others will only fulfill their biological meaning when
44:55
Speaker 2: the conflict has been resolved. For example, the a bone
45:00
Speaker 2: cancer or a testicular terratoma, sorry, a testicular cancer, there
45:10
Speaker 2: are two kinds. The one doctor Hamer had was a terotoma.
45:15
Speaker 2: Now we have another kind of testicular cancer which involves
45:20
Speaker 2: different cells, different tissues that will only occur when the
45:25
Speaker 2: conflict has been resolved. So this actually augments this the
45:31
Speaker 2: testicular tissue. Whereas the terratoma, you have three different germ
45:39
Speaker 2: layers that are growing simultaneously, and these are the same
45:46
Speaker 2: germ layers that develop the moment that the egg is
45:52
Speaker 2: fertilized and becomes an embryo, so we're looking at procreation
45:59
Speaker 2: in both cases. So a territorial a loss conflict, a
46:08
Speaker 2: very profound loss conflict, a sudden loss conflict is going
46:12
Speaker 2: to affect the testes in men and the ovarias in women.
46:19
Speaker 1: So there is an incredible amount of brain body connection
46:24
Speaker 1: and as far as could creepy if I'm wrong, but
46:26
Speaker 1: this can even be seen in things like CT scans.
46:30
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, absolutely, that's something that doctor Hamer discovered. The
46:35
Speaker 2: connection he discovered early on. He was still working in
46:40
Speaker 2: traditional medicine and he was on duty in emergency when
46:46
Speaker 2: a heart attack patient came in and in this case
46:52
Speaker 2: it was a coronary and he had he came in
46:58
Speaker 2: completely without consciousness. So when someone comes in unconscious, the
47:05
Speaker 2: protocol is to do a CT of the brain. And
47:08
Speaker 2: here we're looking at the nineteen eighties. Doctor Harmer couldn't
47:11
Speaker 2: have discovered this connection until then because the CT wasn't
47:16
Speaker 2: actually invented until the nineteen seventies sometimes, so it was
47:19
Speaker 2: a very very new kind of imaging that they were using.
47:23
Speaker 2: So they took a CT of this gentleman. And when
47:29
Speaker 2: doctor Harmer looked at it. He realized that there was
47:32
Speaker 2: a pocket of fluid or edema precisely in the part
47:37
Speaker 2: of the brain that neurology already understood had to do
47:40
Speaker 2: with the heart rhythm center. And that's when he made
47:44
Speaker 2: that connection that the brain actually mediates what goes on
47:50
Speaker 2: between the psyche and the organ. It was a healing phase, right,
47:54
Speaker 2: because we're looking at edema. Edema will only occur in
47:58
Speaker 2: the healing phase of a of a biological program.
48:04
Speaker 1: What is the significance of being right handed and being
48:07
Speaker 1: left handed?
48:08
Speaker 2: Oh, it is very significant, but you know, we're looking
48:12
Speaker 2: at how the brain is wired. Okay, it is significant
48:18
Speaker 2: when we're looking at let's say, cancers or skin manifestations
48:25
Speaker 2: for example, that are on one side of the body
48:28
Speaker 2: or the other. With cancers, we're looking at breast cancers,
48:31
Speaker 2: testicular cancers, of varian cancers, et cetera, et cetera. Doctor
48:36
Speaker 2: Hamer found that in right handed people, the right side
48:41
Speaker 2: of the body will respond to issues to do with partners,
48:47
Speaker 2: and the left side of the body has to do
48:49
Speaker 2: with issues with mother and children. Now, in left handed
48:55
Speaker 2: people that is completely opposite. So if we're looking for
49:00
Speaker 2: the cause of a breast cancer. Let's say a separation
49:03
Speaker 2: conflict in a female that has given them an introductial cancer.
49:07
Speaker 2: We need to establish their laterality right handed or left
49:12
Speaker 2: handed to be able to determine whether or not the
49:14
Speaker 2: breast cancer was as a result of his separation from
49:18
Speaker 2: her mother, her child, or her partner. It's very precise.
49:25
Speaker 2: It's quite extraordinary how he managed to put these pieces together.
49:29
Speaker 2: And I can guarantee you I've been working with this
49:31
Speaker 2: since nineteen ninety four officially, and it's absolutely correct. It's
49:37
Speaker 2: mind boggling how he managed to put this together.
49:43
Speaker 1: Does it actually make a difference, because it's always in hindsight?
49:47
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So I see that you're left handed. Oh okay,
49:49
Speaker 1: I see that you're right handed. At which point is
49:53
Speaker 1: not already too late?
49:55
Speaker 2: Not at all. You know. I've found through my own
49:58
Speaker 2: experience over the last twenty f five years that when
50:02
Speaker 2: we understand the conflict and its origin, in particular the
50:07
Speaker 2: programming biological shock, that we can alleviate symptoms immediately. It's
50:15
Speaker 2: quite extraordinary. Is skin conditions, arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, you know,
50:22
Speaker 2: the most common ailments, migraines, you name it. They can
50:27
Speaker 2: be reversed immediately. Now, introductile breast cancer is a little
50:33
Speaker 2: bit more difficult, but nonetheless, unless we establish what is
50:40
Speaker 2: preventing it from completely running its course, it will continue
50:45
Speaker 2: and it can create problems down the line. Of course,
50:49
Speaker 2: it depends on the individual.
50:53
Speaker 1: What role does diet and toxins and environment play.
50:58
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I eat to almost organic foods. I
51:03
Speaker 2: don't like preservatives. My environment is clean. I think it's
51:07
Speaker 2: important because they can compromise certain conditions. You know, if
51:14
Speaker 2: you're dealing with a toxin and a chronic illness, it's
51:22
Speaker 2: probably a lot better that you try to eat naturally
51:27
Speaker 2: and stay away from preservatives and environmental poisons. We know
51:32
Speaker 2: they do make you ill cumulatively. So and it's the
51:37
Speaker 2: same for radiation, right because radiation destroys cells. Radiation, if
51:46
Speaker 2: people are exposed to radiation, it can induce leukemia when
51:51
Speaker 2: the radiation leaves your body. So these environmental toxins can
51:57
Speaker 2: create illness.
52:00
Speaker 1: So like smoking a stool not a good idea.
52:04
Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you want black lungs, and go
52:07
Speaker 2: for it, but it's not going to give you cancer,
52:11
Speaker 2: you know. For that, we need a biological shark. In
52:14
Speaker 2: other words, for there to be a cellular change. We
52:16
Speaker 2: do need a biological shark.
52:19
Speaker 1: Well that's a good point because I know lots of
52:22
Speaker 1: people who lived till age ninety four. They smoked their
52:25
Speaker 1: whole life and they didn't get cancer.
52:28
Speaker 2: Right, they weren't worried about it.
52:30
Speaker 1: No, they died of a heart attack.
52:34
Speaker 2: Which is a healing crisis.
52:37
Speaker 1: What a heart attack? Yes, I'm struggling to get my
52:45
Speaker 1: head around that. Can you explain what you mean? Because
52:47
Speaker 1: a heart attack, it ends, it ends somebody's life. How
52:51
Speaker 1: is that?
52:52
Speaker 2: Again, it depends on how much damage was done to
52:55
Speaker 2: the heart muscle in the process, and how much damage
52:58
Speaker 2: and how long the patient was in conflict. It goes
53:04
Speaker 2: without saying that any disease that where you were in
53:07
Speaker 2: conflict for such a long time, the healing phase repercussions
53:12
Speaker 2: can be quite devastating, you know. When if you remember
53:17
Speaker 2: I spoke about cts of the brain where doctor Homer
53:21
Speaker 2: saw this patient had edema after a massive heart attack. Well,
53:27
Speaker 2: it's the edema in the brain that will appear in
53:33
Speaker 2: all very important healing phases. So there we also need
53:38
Speaker 2: to be careful. So in a coronary we are looking
53:42
Speaker 2: at edema in the heart rhythm center that will determine
53:46
Speaker 2: whether or not the patient is going to survive. Also,
53:49
Speaker 2: it depends on how much damage was done to the
53:52
Speaker 2: heart muscle during the conflict ACTA phase, because there is
53:56
Speaker 2: a degeneration of cells or tissues during that period. And
54:02
Speaker 2: of course, with the magnitude of these epileptic or epileptoid crises,
54:11
Speaker 2: the tissues of the heart because they degenerate, the heart
54:15
Speaker 2: can actually rupture.
54:19
Speaker 1: But now it's something like diabetes a result of too
54:22
Speaker 1: much sugar.
54:24
Speaker 2: No, not at all. Sugar will compromise people with diabetes,
54:28
Speaker 2: but it's not the cause. There is a very specific
54:32
Speaker 2: part of the brain that will control your blood sugar.
54:38
Speaker 2: We have one for the glycogen and we have another
54:41
Speaker 2: one for the insulin sorry, glucagone and insulin, And that
54:49
Speaker 2: means that when we have a biological shock that is
54:52
Speaker 2: actively affecting either one of those relays, this is when
54:57
Speaker 2: we will have a blood sugar disorder.
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Speaker 1: I don't have to ask this question. Uh, let me
55:05
Speaker 1: let me try my best. Do you think that there
55:11
Speaker 1: there is basically an industry around naming diseases? In other words,
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Speaker 1: there aren't nearly as many illnesses and diseases as what
55:21
Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical industry tells us. It's basically all just renaming
55:27
Speaker 1: of conditions that we already have.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you know this is what doctor Harmer
55:34
Speaker 2: was actually trying to tell us. When he looked at
55:37
Speaker 2: at the different organs and the kinds of diseases that
55:42
Speaker 2: could present in an organ, he narrowed it down considerably
55:50
Speaker 2: to the the three germ layers, or let's say, the
55:55
Speaker 2: three three most important areas of the brain that control
56:02
Speaker 2: those germ layers. And he actually devised the scientific chart.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar with it. It's a
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Speaker 2: book where he outlines the actual name of the disease,
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Speaker 2: the part of the brain that will react to a
56:22
Speaker 2: biological shock, the name of the biological shock or the
56:26
Speaker 2: kind of shock that you will react to, how this
56:31
Speaker 2: materializes during the conflict acta phase, and how it materializes
56:36
Speaker 2: during the healing phase. Now, when we look at the
56:42
Speaker 2: scientific chart, it's all color coded. We have three embryonic
56:48
Speaker 2: germ layers that are controlled by four areas of the brain. Now,
56:52
Speaker 2: when we look at the pawns of the brain stem,
56:55
Speaker 2: all of those organs react to biological shocks to do
57:02
Speaker 2: with survival. Okay, we're looking at vital organs.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: The second part of the old brain, the cerebellum, reacts
57:13
Speaker 2: to protection. This is when our skin began to develop.
57:17
Speaker 2: Our skin actually protects us from the rays of the sun,
57:20
Speaker 2: right from the radiation. And then after that, when we
57:26
Speaker 2: began to live on land, we needed to find a
57:31
Speaker 2: way to move on land. This is when our skeletal
57:34
Speaker 2: structure and our muscles and connective tissue and tendons and
57:42
Speaker 2: the lymphatic system, and that's when all of that developed.
57:45
Speaker 2: And that has to do with a self devaluation, feeling
57:50
Speaker 2: bad about yourself or being made to feel bad about yourself.
57:55
Speaker 2: Then when we have the latest addition to the brain,
58:01
Speaker 2: what we're looking at is relationships. Okay, So all of
58:07
Speaker 2: the organs really that are covered by the outer skin
58:14
Speaker 2: are connected to the cerebrum and the outer skin itself,
58:21
Speaker 2: which is connected to the sensory cortex. They all respond
58:26
Speaker 2: to relationships. Okay, So when we began to form groups,
58:31
Speaker 2: this is when that part of the brain began to develop.
58:35
Speaker 2: So this is the outermost germ layer. Then the cerebral medulla,
58:40
Speaker 2: which affects the skeletal structure that has to do with
58:45
Speaker 2: with the uh new mesodermal germ layer. So we have
58:49
Speaker 2: three germ layers which are controlled by four different areas
58:54
Speaker 2: of the brain, and we react according to our evolution.
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Speaker 1: So what is the moral of the story Elseidora.
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Speaker 2: Hm. The moral of the story, Well, if I'm going
59:10
Speaker 2: to give any advice to anyone, I would say, live
59:15
Speaker 2: a life of harmlessness, because you never know how people
59:20
Speaker 2: will react to how you behave. I think that's going
59:27
Speaker 2: to be our future. I think that will have to
59:29
Speaker 2: be our future. If we are going to evolve as
59:33
Speaker 2: the human race, we will have to take that into consideration.
59:38
Speaker 2: And I think that is really one of the biggest
59:42
Speaker 2: gifts that doctor Hamer has given us, because once we
59:46
Speaker 2: all embrace this and live our lives accordingly and understand
59:50
Speaker 2: that the word can harm and the word can heal,
59:55
Speaker 2: that we will begin to change our behavior and begin
59:59
Speaker 2: to evolve spiritually.
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Speaker 1: And if I'm understanding correctly, there is a place for medicine,
1:00:11
Speaker 1: but currently everything is over medicalized.
1:00:15
Speaker 2: I think. So, you know, the way doctor Hamer has
1:00:18
Speaker 2: outlined it, he like to see the body and what
1:00:26
Speaker 2: it's capable of. I've seen some extraordinary recoveries and reversals,
1:00:32
Speaker 2: and he's absolutely right in seeing things that way. The
1:00:39
Speaker 2: problem is that we have been conditioned to take a
1:00:42
Speaker 2: remedy for everything, when in fact we're stopping nature from
1:00:47
Speaker 2: taking its course. We're suppressing something and driving it deeper
1:00:51
Speaker 2: into our systems. We're not even allowing ourselves to understand
1:00:57
Speaker 2: its origin, which ultimately, when we do understand its origin,
1:01:03
Speaker 2: we can make those corrections in our lives.
1:01:07
Speaker 1: But that's a very important point because currently everything is
1:01:11
Speaker 1: about treating the symptoms and not looking at the cause.
1:01:16
Speaker 2: That's right, but again we've allowed that, we facilitated that.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: But then alsodor. What is the purpose of pain?
1:01:31
Speaker 2: Ah, it's a warning, you know, it really is a warning.
1:01:35
Speaker 2: Now in my observations, at least over the last ten
1:01:39
Speaker 2: years i've when working with chronic conditions, the original conflicts
1:01:48
Speaker 2: have always been resolved. But as soon as the psyche
1:01:54
Speaker 2: identifies a track which during which you experience that conflict,
1:02:04
Speaker 2: your body is going to react to that track by
1:02:07
Speaker 2: giving you some kind of a symptom. So it's a
1:02:10
Speaker 2: matter of deciphering the symptom to understand exactly what just happened,
1:02:16
Speaker 2: what that track was related to, and how your symptoms
1:02:19
Speaker 2: associate with that first biological shock.
1:02:24
Speaker 3: So it's a process.
1:02:26
Speaker 2: You know, we have to remain more conscious. We're not
1:02:30
Speaker 2: living consciously in any way.
1:02:34
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, for example, childbirth, Now that isn't a
1:02:40
Speaker 1: negative thing. It's literally bringing life into the world. Yet
1:02:43
Speaker 1: there is an association attached to that which is pain.
1:02:48
Speaker 2: Well, the pain really has to do with the muscles
1:02:51
Speaker 2: that are contracting in order to facilitate the birth. And
1:02:55
Speaker 2: of course this is an epileptoid crisis, or actually in
1:03:00
Speaker 2: epileptic crisis, because it involves the musculature. Even the moment
1:03:07
Speaker 2: the ovum is fertilized and the embryo begins to form,
1:03:11
Speaker 2: that entire nine month process follows the law of two phases,
1:03:17
Speaker 2: and what we're looking at is the epileptic crisis at birth,
1:03:23
Speaker 2: where the fetus actually becomes rigid in order to start
1:03:29
Speaker 2: to move out into the birth canal. Okay, so the
1:03:34
Speaker 2: fetus and the mother are both undergoing this epileptic crisis
1:03:42
Speaker 2: at that moment. And all muscle spasms involve pain, but
1:03:46
Speaker 2: it's temporary. It's not like you're going to be in
1:03:48
Speaker 2: pain the rest of your life.
1:03:50
Speaker 1: Right at the other end of the spectrum, you get
1:03:53
Speaker 1: bitten let's say by a mosquito, and you get a
1:03:57
Speaker 1: response that's itchy. Now, that isn't a crisis, is it.
1:04:03
Speaker 2: No, that's a toxin because they inject some kind of
1:04:06
Speaker 2: a poison into your skin that makes you itchy. Right
1:04:12
Speaker 2: when it's associated with a DHS, a mosquito bite, there
1:04:20
Speaker 2: certain circumstances. Well, malaria is a parasite that has nothing
1:04:24
Speaker 2: to do with it. So malaria is not a toxin.
1:04:29
Speaker 2: It's not a disease in itself.
1:04:31
Speaker 1: It's a parasite, which of course is in itself a problem.
1:04:38
Speaker 2: Well, over time, people do build an immunity to it.
1:04:42
Speaker 2: People that live in these regions eventually do build an
1:04:47
Speaker 2: immunity to it. It's newbies like us that would be
1:04:51
Speaker 2: affected if we went into your environment and we were
1:04:54
Speaker 2: bitten by mosquito carrying this parasite.
1:05:00
Speaker 1: Can I follow your work and find out more?
1:05:03
Speaker 2: Well, I'm teaching the GNM now at a very high
1:05:09
Speaker 2: level through the GNM Institute, So anyone that is interested
1:05:16
Speaker 2: in courses, we have courses from the beginners GMM simplified.
1:05:21
Speaker 2: It's not taught by myself, it's taught by my protege.
1:05:25
Speaker 2: And I've been interactive in the development of the course,
1:05:31
Speaker 2: so everything is one hundred percent. Then I have the
1:05:35
Speaker 2: intermediate courses, which are the GNM for healthcare professionals. For
1:05:42
Speaker 2: anyone that is in the healthcare profession that wants to
1:05:46
Speaker 2: go in this direction or wants to know more about it,
1:05:49
Speaker 2: they're welcome to enter into these courses. And then I
1:05:53
Speaker 2: have the certification levels for people that wish to practice
1:05:59
Speaker 2: this out of very high level. So we have the institute.
1:06:04
Speaker 2: But for general information, you could just google Ilsidora's blog
1:06:09
Speaker 2: and you'll see all of my blogs and my rents
1:06:13
Speaker 2: on the GNM. And then I have the original website,
1:06:19
Speaker 2: which was actually put up on request of doctor Hamer
1:06:24
Speaker 2: in two thousand. It's called New Medicine dot c A. Now,
1:06:28
Speaker 2: it was originally called the New Medicine until about two
1:06:33
Speaker 2: thousand and five when he had to make a change
1:06:36
Speaker 2: of the name. He couldn't register New Medicine, so he
1:06:39
Speaker 2: added German in front of it or Germanic in front
1:06:42
Speaker 2: of it.
1:06:44
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, at this stage of the game, shouldn't
1:06:46
Speaker 1: be called German somewhat New Medicine decades old?
1:06:51
Speaker 2: No, well, yes, it's been more than forty years since
1:06:55
Speaker 2: he discovered the iron rule of cancer.
1:07:00
Speaker 1: On that note, also door Laker, thank you for joining
1:07:03
Speaker 1: me in the trenches.
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Speaker 2: My pleasure,