Latest / The Ben Maller Show / Hour 2 - Tabloid Fodder?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Boom, shaka laka. It's our nume Bert, Our number two
- 0:07Speaker 1: is ready for you. We start out in Gotham and
- 0:11Speaker 1: that is where a developing story about the Nicks problems
- 0:16Speaker 1: behind the scenes, palace intrigue or garden intrigue. Multiple Knickerbocker
- 0:21Speaker 1: players unhappy with Jalen Brunson's daddy having such a strong
- 0:26Speaker 1: presence and voice on the Knickerbocker coaching staff. What does
- 0:30Speaker 1: that signify to you? We'll break it down, toss it
- 0:35Speaker 1: up and put some spice on it. Also, Commissioner Adam
- 0:38Speaker 1: Silver asked about the lack of interest for two small
- 0:42Speaker 1: market teams meeting in the NBA Finals tonight, the Thunder
- 0:46Speaker 1: and the Pacers. He said, if we were going into
- 0:49Speaker 1: a Super Bowl it was Packers versus Steelers, you guys
- 0:52Speaker 1: would celebrate that. Does that comp work for you? Well,
- 0:57Speaker 1: answer that question and NBA broadcast. Doris Burke is supposedly
- 1:03Speaker 1: on the hot seat over at ESPN to your fancy
- 1:05Speaker 1: a thought on this one. We'll get to that as well.
- 1:09Speaker 1: All of it's coming away right now. We're cooking it
- 1:11Speaker 1: up as we speak. It's our number two. Filling the
- 1:18Speaker 1: tabloids with nonsense or is it real. Welme in the
- 1:25Speaker 1: beginning of another hour of the Ben Malor Show. We
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- 2:34Speaker 1: our lead this hour is from the Big Apple. The
- 2:39Speaker 1: Big Apple. The only big apple I've ever seen. When
- 2:41Speaker 1: I went to New York is at a Mets game.
- 2:44Speaker 1: They have a big apple out in the outfield. That's it.
- 2:46Speaker 1: I've never seen a big apple anywhere else. So follow
- 2:49Speaker 1: up to the follow up, follow up to the follow up,
- 2:52Speaker 1: coach Tom Thibodeau escorted out of the building, out of
- 2:57Speaker 1: the building in Gotham. Have you heard the latest on this?
- 3:01Speaker 1: Perhaps not? Well, you can't just get rid of a
- 3:04Speaker 1: coach and then just have the story go away. The
- 3:06Speaker 1: story's got legs. So what is the latest? The scuttle
- 3:10Speaker 1: butt as the streets around midtown Manhattan are talking, and
- 3:15Speaker 1: we are told a handful of Knickerbocker players were not happy.
- 3:21Speaker 1: They were unhappy. What were they unhappy about? Because everyone's
- 3:24Speaker 1: got to be happy. You can't have anyone who's not happy.
- 3:27Speaker 1: So the Knicks players were unhappy with the presence of
- 3:32Speaker 1: an assistant coach. But not just any assistant coach. That's right,
- 3:39Speaker 1: Rick Brunson. The plot thickens according to something called hoops Wire.
- 3:46Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but they say that
- 3:48Speaker 1: multiple Knicks players have been unhappy with the presidence of
- 3:51Speaker 1: assistant coach Rick Brunson. If that name sounds familiar, that
- 3:56Speaker 1: is the forefather of Jalen Brunson. That's the Papa Bear.
- 4:01Speaker 1: That's the Papa Bear. Now the problem, the problem is
- 4:05Speaker 1: that Rick has had too big a say in the
- 4:10Speaker 1: goings on with the Knickerbockers behind the scenes. Okay, so
- 4:13Speaker 1: that's the report, simple players upset. Rick Brunson, the daddy
- 4:19Speaker 1: of Jalen Brunson, has become too influential with the New
- 4:24Speaker 1: York basketball team. So let us discuss the question for
- 4:27Speaker 1: the esteem panel, which you find yourself part of? How
- 4:31Speaker 1: am I part of a panel? You are? You just
- 4:33Speaker 1: go with it. You're part of the esteem panel. So
- 4:36Speaker 1: question multiple nick players unhappy? They're unhappy with Jalen Brunson's
- 4:44Speaker 1: daddy that he has such a strong presence on the
- 4:47Speaker 1: coaching staff. What does this signify to you? So I've
- 4:52Speaker 1: got mad men, zip code, and workshop, and we will
- 4:57Speaker 1: combine all of these things to get and we're gonna
- 5:01Speaker 1: have some chills and thrills and try not to stumble
- 5:05Speaker 1: and bumble like the Knickerbockers did in those games. So
- 5:08Speaker 1: my first thought, A there's one word that sums this up.
- 5:12Speaker 1: It is prevalent. It is a disease. It is in
- 5:15Speaker 1: all of our professional sports, all of them. The disease.
- 5:19Speaker 1: It is a one word. It's it's starts with an N.
- 5:24Speaker 1: In fact, capital n nepotism, nepotism, capital end. This is
- 5:29Speaker 1: El Classico, the NBA family business. It's a coaching version
- 5:36Speaker 1: of lebron and he's running the Lakers a GM by
- 5:41Speaker 1: proxy and wors Bronnie, who has no business being in
- 5:45Speaker 1: the NBA, but his daddy is the star of the Lakers.
- 5:47Speaker 1: So tada Bronnie. James draft in the second round and
- 5:51Speaker 1: then went out there and embarrassed himself. So they're catering
- 5:55Speaker 1: to one guy, right, the Nicks are and Jalen brunts it. Well,
- 5:58Speaker 1: he gave them a hometown discount. We okay, good congratulations.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Now we like the player. We like Jalen Brunson, solid ballplayer.
- 6:08Speaker 1: This just does not feel right though. The whole thing
- 6:10Speaker 1: doesn't feel right, and it's like, well, you're doing you know,
- 6:12Speaker 1: because it's in the news. Well, it didn't feel right before.
- 6:16Speaker 1: In fact that the talk was that the reason that
- 6:18Speaker 1: Rick Brunson was hired by the Knicks was because they
- 6:22Speaker 1: were trying to woo Jalen Brunson the whole thing. So
- 6:25Speaker 1: it's just not a professional set up in the real world,
- 6:28Speaker 1: I would say. And then every time I bring this up, well, everyone,
- 6:31Speaker 1: every business you know, how many you know, how many
- 6:32Speaker 1: lawyers I deal with Their father was a lawyer and
- 6:35Speaker 1: they get hired at the law firm or doctor and all, okay, well,
- 6:40Speaker 1: I know in radio it usually doesn't work that way.
- 6:44Speaker 1: It just doesn't, which it did, but that does not
- 6:47Speaker 1: work that way. Now, the second you start building your
- 6:52Speaker 1: organization around family ties, family ties instead of just based
- 6:59Speaker 1: on performance, it doesn't immediately wound it. It doesn't. But
- 7:03Speaker 1: there's cracks, there's little like fissures, you know, you know,
- 7:06Speaker 1: like the earthquakes. They say, well, when the big earthquake happens,
- 7:09Speaker 1: there's usually some four shocks leading up to that. It's
- 7:12Speaker 1: internal politics. And this is not why New York lost
- 7:17Speaker 1: to Indiana. The fact that Jalen Brunson's daddy was on
- 7:20Speaker 1: the bench is not why they lost. However, it is
- 7:23Speaker 1: a symptom to a bigger condition, like bigger problem. It
- 7:28Speaker 1: sounds like the guys in the locker room are sick
- 7:32Speaker 1: of the dad being right there and they feel like
- 7:35Speaker 1: there's only one set of rules for Jalen Brunson and
- 7:38Speaker 1: then for the rest of the team, and you know
- 7:39Speaker 1: it's outside of the inner circle. That's what it sounds like.
- 7:42Speaker 1: The picture that is being painted, which is a term
- 7:45Speaker 1: that I think. We're leading down a road that leads
- 7:48Speaker 1: to a dead end street, and the dead end street
- 7:50Speaker 1: is conflict. There's one one street this is conflict. Then
- 7:53Speaker 1: there's another of and then the third street is interest.
- 7:55Speaker 1: And so they're all connected. Conflict of interest just a
- 7:58Speaker 1: little too cozy, just a little too cozy. And the
- 8:01Speaker 1: argument is, how can you hold the guy accountable when
- 8:04Speaker 1: his father is literally standing right there, right right over
- 8:10Speaker 1: over there, that's right there. And this is not the
- 8:12Speaker 1: first time Rick Brunson has been accused of having too
- 8:15Speaker 1: much influence. So when you take a couple of steps back,
- 8:19Speaker 1: it's like a mad Men situation, right, there's an inner
- 8:22Speaker 1: circle within an inner circle. It's all kind of like
- 8:25Speaker 1: weird thing, this weird castle role. And you got some
- 8:29Speaker 1: players who feel like they're being iced out a little bit,
- 8:32Speaker 1: and and yeah, you know, you got issues, all right,
- 8:35Speaker 1: but that's their problem. You want to bet that whoever
- 8:38Speaker 1: gets the head coaching job of the Knicks retains Rick
- 8:40Speaker 1: Brunson as an assistant coach. You can't get rid of him.
- 8:43Speaker 1: He's like their mascot. You cannot get rid of Rick Brunson.
- 8:47Speaker 1: He's gonna have a job all right now, Page two
- 8:51Speaker 1: to the Finals. Can you feel the buzz in the air?
- 8:57Speaker 1: Can you feel the excitement for the NBA Finals twenty two,
- 9:00Speaker 1: twenty five? No, that's actually a mosquito. You just got
- 9:04Speaker 1: bitten by a mosquito. That's what you felt. You got
- 9:05Speaker 1: bitten by a mosquito. Now it is on. Not like
- 9:09Speaker 1: Donkey Kong. No, no, no, it's like a ripoff version
- 9:11Speaker 1: of Donkey Kong in sleepy Oklahoma City. The Thunder will
- 9:16Speaker 1: rain down. Thunder and Pacers the least attractive NBA Finals
- 9:20Speaker 1: matchup in the history of the NBA Finals. There has
- 9:22Speaker 1: never been a worst matchup in terms of star power,
- 9:26Speaker 1: in terms of national appeal than this. This is it
- 9:31Speaker 1: right here. Your congratulations. So the commissioner, Adam Silver, half man,
- 9:37Speaker 1: half alien, half lizard person. Adam Silver asked he was
- 9:41Speaker 1: asked in an interview on FS one. He was asked
- 9:44Speaker 1: about two small market teams meeting in the finals and
- 9:49Speaker 1: that this is not a good product. You're selling an
- 9:52Speaker 1: inferior product. And I'm paraphrasing some of this. So what
- 9:56Speaker 1: did Adam Silver say? He responded by saying, quote, this
- 10:01Speaker 1: is a quote from Adam Silver. If we were going
- 10:04Speaker 1: into a Super Bowl and it was Packers versus Steelers,
- 10:08Speaker 1: you guys would celebrate that close quote. Does that comp
- 10:14Speaker 1: work for you? Does it work for you? So my
- 10:18Speaker 1: answer is CCS classic corporate spin mixed with what about ism?
- 10:26Speaker 1: What about this? What about that? Okay, So, does he
- 10:31Speaker 1: understand that he's not the NFL commissioner? Does he realize
- 10:34Speaker 1: that it's He's not in charge of the Packers and
- 10:37Speaker 1: the Steelers. He's in charge of the Thunder and the Pacers.
- 10:40Speaker 1: So you're comparing the Thunder and the Pacers, two NBA
- 10:45Speaker 1: teams that are basically invisible unless you happen to be
- 10:50Speaker 1: inside their zip code. If you're outside the zip code,
- 10:52Speaker 1: forget about it. To the Pets Bring Steelers, the Insers,
- 10:57Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers, teams that have national followings
- 11:02Speaker 1: because band wagner fans jump on band wagons and those
- 11:06Speaker 1: teams have won, and so they have fans all over
- 11:08Speaker 1: the country. The Green Bay Packers are a team where
- 11:11Speaker 1: and when they need more money, they just put more
- 11:13Speaker 1: stock up and then people pay money and they get
- 11:15Speaker 1: a stock option in the Green Bay Packers and that's it.
- 11:17Speaker 1: But these are two of the most iconic brands that
- 11:21Speaker 1: have a national following, historically rich franchises in NFL history,
- 11:27Speaker 1: and that is your analogy. That's how you're going to
- 11:30Speaker 1: defend the thunder and the Pacers, is you're going to
- 11:33Speaker 1: compare these two. So what you should have done will
- 11:37Speaker 1: be like, Okay, so if we had a Super Bowl
- 11:40Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers and they were taking on Jacksonville,
- 11:45Speaker 1: would you guys celebrate that? Now? Of course not. Of
- 11:49Speaker 1: course wouldn't celebrate that. I mean, his work. How stupid
- 11:53Speaker 1: are you? Seriously? The commission of the NBA a billion
- 11:56Speaker 1: dollar business. I have been by your headquarters there in Manhattan,
- 12:00Speaker 1: a big skyscraper and all that. That's that's what you
- 12:02Speaker 1: came up with. That's what you came up with. Okay, interesting,
- 12:09Speaker 1: that's odd, all right? So I would think that you're
- 12:11Speaker 1: trying to insult what little intelligence your customers have by
- 12:15Speaker 1: acting like the finals or you know, some kind of
- 12:18Speaker 1: cultural moment that people want to watch, and you know,
- 12:23Speaker 1: no matter what and all that stuff, the numbers will
- 12:26Speaker 1: ultimately tell the story. You are going to get absolutely
- 12:30Speaker 1: waxed in the television ratice. And this is a TV show,
- 12:34Speaker 1: make no mistake. As much as we talk about this, that,
- 12:36Speaker 1: and the other thing. When you get down to it,
- 12:40Speaker 1: it's a TV show. The reason that the industrial complex
- 12:45Speaker 1: of American sport North American sport is as big as
- 12:48Speaker 1: it is is because of television. And you're putting on
- 12:54Speaker 1: a show that if you put the pilot on, no
- 12:59Speaker 1: one would watch watch the other episodes, like, you're gonna
- 13:01Speaker 1: have up to seven episodes of this mini series, minimum
- 13:06Speaker 1: four episodes, and most will not want to watch more
- 13:11Speaker 1: than one. And that's that's what you've got. And I
- 13:14Speaker 1: will laugh when the NBA Finals gets beat in the
- 13:18Speaker 1: ratings by the Thousand Pounds Sisters Show or the rerun
- 13:21Speaker 1: of Doctor Pimple Popper. This is Z you know that show,
- 13:26Speaker 1: which is a fine show. It's just just great, you know,
- 13:32Speaker 1: pushing parody over pedigree and all that stuff. Yeah, it's
- 13:36Speaker 1: all about the parody. Everyone loves parody until you actually
- 13:38Speaker 1: get parody, and then you don't like to taste a parody.
- 13:40Speaker 1: But you're not supposed to say that because you say, oh,
- 13:42Speaker 1: we don't like we like it, but you don't really
- 13:45Speaker 1: like it and all that stuff, and now it'll be great.
- 13:49Speaker 1: We've got listeners in Oklahoma City we're on in Indianapolis,
- 13:52Speaker 1: and so for them, congratulations. And you're a bartender in
- 13:57Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, man, that's great. You'll get extra tips. People
- 14:01Speaker 1: will be buying a lot of booze. It'll be great
- 14:03Speaker 1: if you're a farmer in Indianapolis. Outstanding. For the rest
- 14:07Speaker 1: of us, you know, the struggle is real. Well again,
- 14:09Speaker 1: I have a talk show to do, so it's not
- 14:11Speaker 1: like this is going to vanish into thinner. I just
- 14:13Speaker 1: proved I can do a monologue about anything, as I
- 14:16Speaker 1: did a hockey monologue and actually watched the Florida Panthers
- 14:19Speaker 1: and the Edmonton Oilers which went to overtime. Now last ward,
- 14:22Speaker 1: here we go to the broadcast world, or as we
- 14:26Speaker 1: like to call it, the yaka the Act, the Yakady Act.
- 14:30Speaker 1: That is where a headline which I did not initially see.
- 14:34Speaker 1: The great thing about the power of the bully pulpit
- 14:37Speaker 1: is so many of you reach out to me. Many
- 14:39Speaker 1: of you be email, but some of you on social
- 14:41Speaker 1: media and you want me to see certain stories. And
- 14:44Speaker 1: you're like, boy, I hope, hope, you know you know
- 14:45Speaker 1: this idiot will talk about this story. I think it's
- 14:47Speaker 1: a good story, and this one absolutely I had several
- 14:49Speaker 1: of you send me this story, and I totally agree.
- 14:51Speaker 1: It's a great story. It's something we've talked about in
- 14:53Speaker 1: previous episodes of the show. What is this story? I'll
- 14:56Speaker 1: get to the story. So NBA broadcaster Doris Burke, the
- 15:00Speaker 1: much maligned on these airwaves. Doris Burke, Okay, she is
- 15:07Speaker 1: supposedly on the hot seat as in Dune Skis at ESPN,
- 15:12Speaker 1: is the lead NBA commentator. Do you fancy a thought
- 15:18Speaker 1: on this one? All right? Do you fancy a thought
- 15:22Speaker 1: on this one? So I have. But for many wolkesters
- 15:26Speaker 1: will be an unpopular opinion. We are going to say
- 15:30Speaker 1: the quiet part out loud. We are going to do it.
- 15:33Speaker 1: We're not mainstream, We're not We're on overnight. We can
- 15:36Speaker 1: do this. We can do it. Those daytime people have
- 15:39Speaker 1: to be politically correct and all that stuff. We don't
- 15:41Speaker 1: have to do it, all right, we don't have to.
- 15:43Speaker 1: So nobody wants to say this. Nobody at the ESPN
- 15:46Speaker 1: wants to say this. They're sports media. People don't want
- 15:48Speaker 1: to say they don't have the balls to say it.
- 15:51Speaker 1: If Doris Burke is your number one NBA commentator, you've
- 15:55Speaker 1: done something terribly wrong. You have there, I said it. Oh,
- 16:00Speaker 1: I don't like it. Tough. Listen, I get that the
- 16:04Speaker 1: Wolkester's over at ESPN. They fell in love with the headline.
- 16:07Speaker 1: You know, look at us, we're progressive. You know, female
- 16:09Speaker 1: analysts call in the finals. Okay, now what now? You
- 16:13Speaker 1: actually have to do the work. And she stinks right,
- 16:17Speaker 1: And I have not listened to her recent work, but
- 16:20Speaker 1: I heard enough of it, you know, running the x's
- 16:22Speaker 1: and o's, trying to do the old workshop that. Hey,
- 16:26Speaker 1: I know my basketball and I'm gonna workshop this, that
- 16:29Speaker 1: and the other. Not entertaining, Not entertaining. Knowing the game
- 16:34Speaker 1: does not make a great broadcast. Being a great broadcaster
- 16:37Speaker 1: knowing the game two different things. I want entertainment, I
- 16:41Speaker 1: want energy. I want juice. Give me the juice. I
- 16:45Speaker 1: need the juice. I need it. Give me something. And
- 16:50Speaker 1: I have said for years when she is working, it's
- 16:53Speaker 1: tap tap on the mute, mute, tap tap mute, mute,
- 16:57Speaker 1: tap tap mute mute. That's what I do. To think
- 17:01Speaker 1: that Doris is not on the the we goofed On,
- 17:04Speaker 1: Mark Jackson too and Jeff Van Gundy, but side by
- 17:09Speaker 1: side they are. It's like Marv Albert and Mike Furtello
- 17:14Speaker 1: calling a game when Van Gundy and Jackson are there
- 17:16Speaker 1: compared to when Doris Burk's there. You know, Mama, there
- 17:19Speaker 1: goes that. Man. I'll take that nine days a week,
- 17:23Speaker 1: nine days a week, and that booth ran circles around
- 17:29Speaker 1: what they had. They put that podcast guy JJ Reddick
- 17:32Speaker 1: in there briefly. I mean, they don't even know what
- 17:34Speaker 1: they're doing. They're even trying. They're not even trying, right,
- 17:39Speaker 1: and so now who knows who's next? Man, be careful.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Doc Rivers will probably be fired in Milwaukee. He'll put
- 17:45Speaker 1: docback on there. That'll be great, oh man, So be
- 17:50Speaker 1: careful what you ask for. I still amaze. I believe
- 17:54Speaker 1: the conspiracy that the NBA forced ESPN to get rid
- 17:59Speaker 1: of Jeff Van Gunny and Mark Jackson because of criticism
- 18:05Speaker 1: directed at the officials and just the general lack of
- 18:09Speaker 1: sense of humor when it comes to the commentary Jeff
- 18:12Speaker 1: Van Gundy had. You don't leave the top network television
- 18:17Speaker 1: gig to become an assistant coach with the Boston Celtics,
- 18:20Speaker 1: which is what Jeff Van Gundy did. You don't make
- 18:24Speaker 1: that move. Maybe you leave to become a head coach
- 18:27Speaker 1: with you don't leave to become an assistant coach, and
- 18:29Speaker 1: he got lacked and Mark Jackson also Mark Jackson for
- 18:35Speaker 1: reasons that we can get into whether you want to.
- 18:38Speaker 1: I mean, he listen that. People say he's too religious,
- 18:40Speaker 1: he's got some skeletons. The whole thing is he bumbles
- 18:42Speaker 1: along and whatever he did, he's toxic. No one will
- 18:46Speaker 1: hire him to be a head coach. No one will
- 18:48Speaker 1: hire Mark Jackson to be a coach. So why would
- 18:51Speaker 1: he leave? They kicked him out. It is the Ben
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- 22:29Speaker 1: use the company email. I use my own personal email,
- 22:33Speaker 1: and so when I need to use the company email,
- 22:36Speaker 1: I'll get an email from one of the bosses saying, hey, hey,
- 22:39Speaker 1: numb Nuts, you should probably log in there, and I say, yeah, yes, boss,
- 22:43Speaker 1: numb Nuts is logging in, and I'll get right on that.
- 22:48Speaker 1: And then what happens is says I don't usually log
- 22:51Speaker 1: into the company email account. I then end up having
- 22:55Speaker 1: to go through seventeen firewalls where I have to go
- 23:00Speaker 1: through this account because my my account's locked, so I
- 23:03Speaker 1: have to go here, and then I unlocked. I unlocked
- 23:06Speaker 1: my account, but then my password is dated because I
- 23:09Speaker 1: haven't updated my password. So then I try to update
- 23:12Speaker 1: my password and then it says, well, that's an old password.
- 23:15Speaker 1: You use that, But I don't remember what passwords I've used,
- 23:17Speaker 1: and so they say, well, no, you can't use that
- 23:19Speaker 1: because you've already used that. You know, you use that
- 23:21Speaker 1: in like two thousand and six, so you can't use
- 23:24Speaker 1: it again. I said, well why not, it's you know,
- 23:25Speaker 1: it's been nineteen years. I think I can probably use
- 23:27Speaker 1: it again. They said, no, you can't, so then I
- 23:29Speaker 1: have to put a new password in, So then I
- 23:31Speaker 1: put that in, and then again I took too long
- 23:34Speaker 1: to try to come up with a new password, So
- 23:36Speaker 1: then I have to reset the account again. So then
- 23:38Speaker 1: I've reset the account now multiple times. I then go
- 23:41Speaker 1: back again. I then put a new password in that
- 23:45Speaker 1: I know I have not used. Then I get it
- 23:47Speaker 1: spit back at me because the it's all ay, I'm
- 23:51Speaker 1: sure there's no human being here, And they send me
- 23:54Speaker 1: a message saying, well, that's a good password, but it's
- 23:56Speaker 1: not it's not safe enough because there's you don't have
- 23:59Speaker 1: any of those you know, you have the numbers and
- 24:03Speaker 1: you have the letters, but then there's the other squiggly things.
- 24:06Speaker 1: You need one of those things. So I didn't have that,
- 24:08Speaker 1: you know, so I had to have that. So then
- 24:09Speaker 1: I again got I got you know, I'm trying to
- 24:12Speaker 1: do multiple things. So then I got logged out of that.
- 24:14Speaker 1: So then I went back again and again I typed
- 24:17Speaker 1: in the thing, and it said, well, your account's been
- 24:19Speaker 1: locked again because you did not you did not change
- 24:21Speaker 1: the password in a timely manner. So this has been
- 24:24Speaker 1: going on. The struggle is real. Believe we have figured
- 24:27Speaker 1: that out now, and I will take part at some
- 24:31Speaker 1: point in the compliance training. I think now I will
- 24:34Speaker 1: not remember this password the new password, So I guarantee
- 24:38Speaker 1: the next time I have to log in, I will
- 24:41Speaker 1: again have to jump through seventeen hoops. I know how
- 24:45Speaker 1: this works. It's every time, so that I have that
- 24:48Speaker 1: to look forward to, and man, am I excited about that?
- 24:51Speaker 1: That is so exciting. So I love that almost as
- 24:56Speaker 1: much as when you're clicking on something and their way
- 25:01Speaker 1: to verify that you're a human being is they'll send
- 25:04Speaker 1: you like a picture which is in little boxes, and
- 25:07Speaker 1: then you have to click the boxes where the bicycle
- 25:10Speaker 1: is in the picture. And that is the security system.
- 25:14Speaker 1: That is the way to do it. That if you
- 25:16Speaker 1: just click on the boxes, and then there's always that
- 25:19Speaker 1: one box where you're not sure whether or not that's
- 25:21Speaker 1: part of the motorcycle because it's just a little piece
- 25:24Speaker 1: of the motorcycle. Is that does that count? Who knows?
- 25:28Speaker 1: Who knows? Anyway? It is the Ben Maler Show. As
- 25:32Speaker 1: we are rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling along through the overnight
- 25:38Speaker 1: and Troy says, Doris Burke is the less woke version
- 25:43Speaker 1: of Ben Mallar, who will boycott if we who will
- 25:48Speaker 1: boycott if she's taken off boycott boycotting, I mean, my
- 25:53Speaker 1: mute button will probably be upset if she's off ESPN. Ah,
- 25:55Speaker 1: she turned the audio on again, which will be a
- 25:58Speaker 1: be a problem. Yeah. Drummer Dave Wrights and says that
- 26:03Speaker 1: thanks Ben for the thoughtful Stanley Cup Final Game one breakdown,
- 26:06Speaker 1: and especially calling out ESPN for continuing to force the
- 26:09Speaker 1: awful Doris Burke on whatever fan base the NBA has left. Thankfully,
- 26:13Speaker 1: because of hypocrites like the Fraud and Curry, I no
- 26:17Speaker 1: longer have to waste time watching probouncable. All right, well
- 26:20Speaker 1: that's good for you. I have a talk short, so
- 26:23Speaker 1: I do the show. Ferg Dog says, I've got a
- 26:28Speaker 1: thought on Doris Burke. She has a boring, monotone voice
- 26:32Speaker 1: and adds zero value to the commentary three person booth.
- 26:37Speaker 1: It's a stupid concept and she's not good enough to
- 26:40Speaker 1: be in a two person booth. There you go. It's
- 26:42Speaker 1: a hot take from Dog. Yes, that's a hot take
- 26:48Speaker 1: there from good old Fergie. Absolutely August says, I would
- 26:53Speaker 1: bet you love Hube Brown's voice sounding like he's talking
- 26:56Speaker 1: from a grave. I think Huby he's retired. He aged out,
- 27:02Speaker 1: and a normal retirement ages, like in your mid sixties,
- 27:05Speaker 1: so he'll be lasted till he was in his mid nineties,
- 27:07Speaker 1: I believe. And then and then that was it, see
- 27:11Speaker 1: you later out of here, a goodbye, Gonzo Gonzo, Gonzo Gonzo. Indeed,
- 27:19Speaker 1: let's hear and An writes and says, great show as always,
- 27:24Speaker 1: then mentioned something about someone I've never heard of and
- 27:28Speaker 1: the panthers leaking oil. There you go, Nick drama, there
- 27:31Speaker 1: you go. All right, it's all right there, it's all
- 27:33Speaker 1: if you miss any of the show, it's all in
- 27:36Speaker 1: the podcast. Any it's all safe for posterity sake. We'll
- 27:39Speaker 1: go to the phones right now because it is an
- 27:41Speaker 1: interactive show. And so who do we have you? Let's
- 27:43Speaker 1: see any meenie miney mo. Let's say hello to Vicky.
- 27:49Speaker 1: Who's up next? Hello, Vicky, welcome. Vicky's very quiet, does
- 27:58Speaker 1: not have a lot to say. Let's see here. I
- 28:01Speaker 1: hear silence. I do not hear sleeping, which means either
- 28:06Speaker 1: Vicky stepped away from the phone or does not have
- 28:09Speaker 1: a snoring sleep appvia Appia process. He does not snore. Yeah,
- 28:14Speaker 1: we're not used to that. We need something, all right, Well,
- 28:16Speaker 1: thank you for that call, Vicky, tremendous call. Thanks for
- 28:18Speaker 1: the contribution. Let's go to Keg drinking Steve. Who's next, Hello,
- 28:22Speaker 1: Keg drinking Steve City.
- 28:26Speaker 4: Yes, then maw the ultimate player hater player hating no
- 28:31Speaker 4: the NBA Finals. It's it's good to see you in
- 28:34Speaker 4: fine form. There's plenty of reasons to hate the NBA,
- 28:38Speaker 4: but my favorite Ben Malor reason is the markets aren't
- 28:41Speaker 4: big enough. So Ben has been trasts the NBA Finals.
- 28:46Speaker 4: He hates them. He hated because it's not good enough
- 28:49Speaker 4: for his show to provide, to provide content. So you
- 28:53Speaker 4: hate it because the markets are too small?
- 28:57Speaker 1: Yes, and he let me let me explain something. Do
- 29:00Speaker 1: you know what I do for a living? I know
- 29:02Speaker 1: you're usually just completely looking up. Do you understand what
- 29:05Speaker 1: I do for a living? You understand the job? What
- 29:07Speaker 1: is my job? Go ahead? What is my job? I'll
- 29:09Speaker 1: wait for you.
- 29:10Speaker 4: Do you understand that the next ten years are gonna
- 29:12Speaker 4: be the players? The NBA Finals are probably gonna be
- 29:15Speaker 4: at the Oklahoma Sate, so you better get used.
- 29:17Speaker 1: To just like it's just like you're such a such
- 29:21Speaker 1: a dope, Just like last year the Celtics wa and
- 29:23Speaker 1: this is the start of a dynasty. They're gonna win
- 29:26Speaker 1: with Denver Wan every team that wins, it's the same
- 29:29Speaker 1: stories rating. They're already writing the story right now. And
- 29:32Speaker 1: if Indiana, If Indiana wins, it's Halliburton's league, They're gonna
- 29:36Speaker 1: dominate the East for the next ten years. That is
- 29:38Speaker 1: the craziest boring story. So again I'll ask you again,
- 29:43Speaker 1: what do I do? What is my job?
- 29:45Speaker 4: I ask you what is your job? Your job is
- 29:48Speaker 4: to make the Oklahoma City Thunder one of the greatest
- 29:52Speaker 4: teams of all time?
- 29:53Speaker 5: And listen, correct The one point you are.
- 30:04Speaker 4: Correct is Doris Doris Burke is in the epitome of
- 30:08Speaker 4: the menachimes Holly Rose School of Broadcasting, DEEI hires who
- 30:14Speaker 4: will never They're like Supreme Court justices. They're mediocre, they'll
- 30:18Speaker 4: never get There are plenty of decent reasons to hate
- 30:21Speaker 4: the NBA, but but not anointing the Oklahoma City Thunder
- 30:25Speaker 4: one of the greatest of all time?
- 30:26Speaker 1: Is?
- 30:27Speaker 4: Is not it? I mean market?
- 30:29Speaker 1: They have not answered my question. I will ask you
- 30:32Speaker 1: a third time. Go ahead, what do I do for
- 30:36Speaker 1: a living? What it was your job?
- 30:38Speaker 4: Your job is to review what happened that day in
- 30:42Speaker 4: a factual manner and then make sure to convey to
- 30:45Speaker 4: the audience that that they are witnessing greatness and their time.
- 30:50Speaker 4: You know, they may not realize it yet, but they
- 30:52Speaker 4: are realizing the greatest, the one of the greatest ball
- 30:57Speaker 4: teams in the history of their life's.
- 31:00Speaker 1: And now I have a question. It's a gentleman in
- 31:04Speaker 1: the back of the room here. I've got my hand
- 31:05Speaker 1: in the air, So can I ask you a question?
- 31:08Speaker 1: Is it true you got whiplash jumping on the thunder bandwagon?
- 31:12Speaker 1: Is it true that you suffered whiplag? Because you've called
- 31:15Speaker 1: me for you called me for years. Mostly you call
- 31:17Speaker 1: the chiefs propaganda. Usually, yeah, that's true. But now all
- 31:21Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've jumped on this bandwagon. Are you okay?
- 31:25Speaker 1: Did you injure yourself when you jumped on the bandwag?
- 31:27Speaker 1: Is everything okay? Maybe you hurt your ankle a little bit,
- 31:30Speaker 1: your elbows? Did anything happen?
- 31:33Speaker 4: I've loved them ever since, ever since Hardened, and ever
- 31:38Speaker 4: since we had three MVPs and we were in these
- 31:40Speaker 4: finals ten This run, this all time run, should have
- 31:44Speaker 4: happened ten years ago, when we had Harden, when we
- 31:47Speaker 4: had Westbrook, when we had the greatest amalgamation of talents
- 31:52Speaker 4: ten years ago. It's just the salary capture. The salary
- 31:56Speaker 4: cap structure is so messed up that we couldn't We
- 31:58Speaker 4: couldn't dominate the We already dominate the NBA NFL. Now
- 32:02Speaker 4: we're going to dominate the NBA, which because we have
- 32:04Speaker 4: a bunch of more draft. If you guys hate it,
- 32:07Speaker 4: you're a Boston guy, don't, don't, just admit it. You
- 32:10Speaker 4: love it.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Yes, I'm a proud Bostonian.
- 32:12Speaker 4: Clearly Boston. You don't. Don't. You don't have to hide
- 32:15Speaker 4: it and then just lay back, enjoy it and and
- 32:18Speaker 4: and and love this Oklahoma city ride that you're gonna
- 32:23Speaker 4: have to endure. I know you hate it. I know
- 32:25Speaker 4: you hate it begause God markets are too small and
- 32:31Speaker 4: doesn't ignite the Nashville the national audience. But you're just
- 32:34Speaker 4: gonna have to lie back and enjoy it and get
- 32:36Speaker 4: used to it.
- 32:37Speaker 1: I don't have to. I don't have to enjoy it.
- 32:39Speaker 1: I don't have to enjoy it. I don't know. I mean,
- 32:41Speaker 1: that's your your opinion on that. But but thank you
- 32:45Speaker 1: for not answering my question. I appreciate it. So Mark
- 32:48Speaker 1: from Queens who's living in Arlington, Texas. So many people
- 32:52Speaker 1: from Queens relocate to Arlington. They love it. Mark says
- 32:58Speaker 1: it's broadcasting, narrow casting exactly. That's the point, and that
- 33:03Speaker 1: numb nuts would not ask it, would not answer the question.
- 33:06Speaker 1: But that's it. Listen, we do broad We try to
- 33:08Speaker 1: have a broad audience. We don't want to do narrowcasting.
- 33:11Speaker 1: That's why we don't talk a lot of hockey. Stanley
- 33:13Speaker 1: Cup finals are the exception of the rule. We're allowed
- 33:15Speaker 1: to talk hockey because it's a national event. It's a
- 33:18Speaker 1: big event and we can talk about it, and so
- 33:20Speaker 1: it's broadcasting. You want to have a broad audience. And
- 33:24Speaker 1: I promise you that if we talk a lot about
- 33:28Speaker 1: the thunder and the pacers, that I might get a
- 33:31Speaker 1: headache from hearing all the radios and the phone devices,
- 33:34Speaker 1: the iHeart app all tune out and that would affect
- 33:37Speaker 1: I need idew profen because I'd have a big headache
- 33:41Speaker 1: and it would be a big problem. Fergduck says, Keg
- 33:44Speaker 1: drinking Steve is wrong. Your job is to divide background
- 33:47Speaker 1: sound to people playing video games, not whatever he said.
- 33:51Speaker 1: That is correct, Jeremy. He points out, if the next
- 33:54Speaker 1: ten NBA finals start in Okac, the NBA will be bankrupt.
- 33:59Speaker 1: By year six. How about year four? Just god, I
- 34:04Speaker 1: forget six is being optimistic? How about year four? We'll
- 34:09Speaker 1: go year four? All right, Ben Malor show as we
- 34:12Speaker 1: are working our way through the overnight and if you
- 34:16Speaker 1: would like to be part, you can join us right
- 34:18Speaker 1: now at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's
- 34:21Speaker 1: eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
- 34:24Speaker 1: We are moments away. We're gonna have Mallard the Third Degree.
- 34:26Speaker 1: That'll be coming up in a couple of minutes. But
- 34:29Speaker 1: time now for the Insta Trivia, and here it is
- 34:34Speaker 1: the inch to trivia. With OKAC and Indiana playing in
- 34:39Speaker 1: the NBA Finals tonight, it is important to mention that
- 34:42Speaker 1: Blank holds the record for the most career points in
- 34:47Speaker 1: NBA Finals history. I've been playing this for a long
- 34:50Speaker 1: time and Blank has the record for the most career
- 34:54Speaker 1: points scored in NBA Finals history. That is the Insta
- 35:00Speaker 1: Trivia the answer. If you know it, send me a
- 35:02Speaker 1: message on x at Ben Maller. We'll get to it
- 35:05Speaker 1: and we will do it next.
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- 35:53Speaker 1: find the latest episode and a best of version posted
- 35:57Speaker 1: right after we get off the air. All right, time
- 36:02Speaker 1: now for the Insta Trivia, and we're gonna have Mallard
- 36:05Speaker 1: of the third degree right after that, back to back,
- 36:08Speaker 1: belly to belly, and here is the Insta Trivia question
- 36:12Speaker 1: of the hour. A lot of reaction to Keg drinking
- 36:16Speaker 1: Steve's phone call, but here it is OKAYC and Indiana.
- 36:20Speaker 1: They are playing tonight and Blank still holds the record
- 36:24Speaker 1: for the most career points in an NBA Finals game. Again,
- 36:29Speaker 1: Blank holds the record for the most career points in
- 36:31Speaker 1: an NBA Finals game. That is the question. What is
- 36:36Speaker 1: the answer? Let's see does anyone know the answer? You
- 36:40Speaker 1: go to the great Unwashed Mike de Leperchon from Boston
- 36:44Speaker 1: says Donald Trump answer alf the Alien Opineter going with
- 36:49Speaker 1: fifty as his answer. Very funny. Who else do we have?
- 36:54Speaker 1: Page down? Mister Tony Batti from Keith OsO Tech Show,
- 36:59Speaker 1: Marcus Coles, who's forty two today? From Late Night Drug
- 37:02Speaker 1: Tester keg Drinking Steve guessed by King Roy. That's a
- 37:06Speaker 1: good photo of him. That's pretty good. Who else do
- 37:09Speaker 1: you have? Page down? Blind Scott's Muse, Miss Rafferty from Milkman,
- 37:14Speaker 1: Mike and Colorado Joe Joe White guess by Ike and Roseville, Minnesota.
- 37:21Speaker 1: Page down, Perito says Ben Benny. Oklahoma City in the
- 37:24Speaker 1: finals is going to kill us. All I was hearing
- 37:27Speaker 1: the banjo's already. I'm peddling faster to get the FAA
- 37:30Speaker 1: from my radio. Okay, Palm Desert Rat is up late
- 37:34Speaker 1: with us. He's a pale A friend of the show,
- 37:36Speaker 1: says Traquille O Le the other friend of the show,
- 37:37Speaker 1: stuck in Sacramento going with Clipper Great Chris Cayman as
- 37:42Speaker 1: his answer, what do we have page down? I can't
- 37:46Speaker 1: read that. Dennis Harra from Donkey's Sausage. You can ram
- 37:48Speaker 1: it all day, you can ram it all night. Alex
- 37:51Speaker 1: the cynical says Kobe's future steps on. Wow, all right,
- 37:55Speaker 1: do you have an answer? Lorena?
- 37:57Speaker 3: My guess what's gonna be?
- 37:58Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant? All right, Kobe, right now, this is in't correct.
- 38:02Speaker 1: It is the logo. You know who the logo is? Lorena. Oh,
- 38:04Speaker 1: this was on the test the other week ago. Yeah,
- 38:07Speaker 1: and you know I don't remember, all right. Jerry West,
- 38:11Speaker 1: Jerry West logan most points and Finals takes me. Here
- 38:15Speaker 1: we go, Here we go, Here we go. It's one
- 38:22Speaker 1: big event. Gets grilled. All right? What are we have here?
- 38:26Speaker 6: Kol The Pacers are the biggest NBA Finals underdog in
- 38:30Speaker 6: seven years. They're at plus five hundred. How many people
- 38:33Speaker 6: think the series will be a sweeper? A gentleman sweep
- 38:35Speaker 6: for the thunder Ben is an OKC injury. The only
- 38:38Speaker 6: hope that Indiana has no.
- 38:41Speaker 1: Shay jogis Alexander could go out there and just poop
- 38:45Speaker 1: the bed, right, Just suck at a time you cannot
- 38:47Speaker 1: suck and they can miss a bunch of Indiana is
- 38:52Speaker 1: an exciting team. They're a good offensive team. There's a
- 38:55Speaker 1: lot of randomness on a given night. You lose one game,
- 38:58Speaker 1: then it's snowballs, and there's a fluke in another game,
- 39:02Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you're like, well, wait
- 39:05Speaker 1: a minute, that's not supposed to happen. I'm not buying
- 39:08Speaker 1: that this is going to be a domination situation. I
- 39:11Speaker 1: don't believe the hype. An injury obviously changes everything, but
- 39:15Speaker 1: Indiana they're the inter lopers here, but so's Oklahoma City.
- 39:19Speaker 1: They're also they're uninvited guest. Nobody wants to see them
- 39:22Speaker 1: in the finals, So uh no. Next.
- 39:25Speaker 6: Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Mounkin told reporters on Tuesday that
- 39:28Speaker 6: they need to get Zay Flowers the ballb war this
- 39:30Speaker 6: season and have they been under utilizing Flowers.
- 39:33Speaker 1: They're not going to get in the ball. Lamar Jackson
- 39:35Speaker 1: loves his tight ends. They're a running team and so
- 39:38Speaker 1: it's all June talk. They're not going to get Flowers
- 39:41Speaker 1: to the ball.
- 39:41Speaker 6: More next Now, the Rams offensive coordinator said that DeVante
- 39:44Speaker 6: Adams isn't showing his age at thirty two. Many people
- 39:47Speaker 6: have been expecting deppcoming season for Adams to be like
- 39:49Speaker 6: last season for Derrick Henry. But I think Adams is
- 39:52Speaker 6: down the fountain of youth in la I don't.
- 39:54Speaker 1: It's June. He's wearing a visor in shorts. You don't
- 39:58Speaker 1: show your age when you're wearing short and advisor. And
- 40:01Speaker 1: he's so stupid. I'll believe it when he does it
- 40:05Speaker 1: in the season.
- 40:05Speaker 6: How do we do?
- 40:06Speaker 1: He passed? There? It is, that's a win. There you go,
- 40:08Speaker 1: Devoi of style points. But a win is a win,
- 40:11Speaker 1: is a win is a win? I won.
- 40:12Speaker 2: I think what