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Shang Chi + Jaws = Jabberjaw? · Large Nerdron Collider

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Speaker 1: At the podcast that's all about the kiki things happening
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Speaker 1: in the world around us and how very excited we
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Speaker 1: are about them. I hope I said that right, because
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Speaker 1: I kind of just went on to autopilot. There. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ariel casting and with me as always, is showing in
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Speaker 1: gray scale on my camera. Jonathan Strickland call me razmatazz. Okay, razmatazz.
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Speaker 1: Yeah there, Well that'll make more sense and a bit
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Speaker 1: and yeah, my internet connection is going all sorts of crazy.
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Speaker 1: So I apologize to Ariel if if I end up
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Speaker 1: going into Kansas pre Wizard of All a moment. You're
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Speaker 1: kind of already there. You look like you're in a
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Speaker 1: noir Razmatazz excellent. Well, I have a question for you now.
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Speaker 1: This question Ariel was inspired by the fact that I
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Speaker 1: got to thinking about how sometimes people discover stuff much
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Speaker 1: later after it has already come out, and often we
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Speaker 1: can see almost like cliquish judgment in some geek circles,
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Speaker 1: like almost judging you for not having seen it before,
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Speaker 1: which I think is kind of crappy. I always think
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Speaker 1: it's better to just be like, oh, well, that's awesome
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Speaker 1: that you've got to see that. I wish I could
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Speaker 1: have seen it for the first time with you. That
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Speaker 1: would have been great. Um. And the thing that brought
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Speaker 1: that to mind was that we'll be talking about Peacemaker
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Speaker 1: later in this episode. But before Peacemaker, there was the
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Speaker 1: Suicide Squad, and before the Suicide Squad, there was Suicide Squad.
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Speaker 1: And when the trailers came out for that movie, they
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Speaker 1: were set to Bohemian Rhapsody, and a lot of kids
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Speaker 1: heard Bohemian Rhapsdy by Queen for the first time and
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Speaker 1: they flipped out. And a lot of people my age
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Speaker 1: were like, how dare you not know this song when
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Speaker 1: they only heard it when Wayne's World came out? And
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Speaker 1: guess what, Wayne's World is thirty years old today, so
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Speaker 1: why why would you say that? But that's that's what
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Speaker 1: but see, that's what drives me nuts is because there
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Speaker 1: were so many people my age who had never heard
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Speaker 1: Bohemian Rapsdy before Wayne's World. That song came out in
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Speaker 1: nineteen So my my whole thing is that it's always
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Speaker 1: great to discover something. It's never too late, And with
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Speaker 1: that in mind. What is something that you came to
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Speaker 1: a little late in the party but you really enjoyed. Uh,
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Speaker 1: there's so many things, so many things, you know. The
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Speaker 1: first thing I'll say is like the things that I've
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Speaker 1: come too late, most of them I have not gotten
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Speaker 1: flat four. The things that I get flat four stuff
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Speaker 1: that I haven't watched, Like, yeah, I remember before Christmas.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's heard me say that a thousand times. UM. So
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Speaker 1: far Escape I really loved once I watched it, but
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Speaker 1: the series was completely over. Like and by completely over,
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Speaker 1: I mean the series got canceled in the fourth season.
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Speaker 1: They expected to have a fifth. I think it was
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Speaker 1: the fourth, maybe it was the third. Anyhow, the series
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Speaker 1: got canceled. They expected to have another season, and then
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Speaker 1: they didn't have anything for like a year or two,
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Speaker 1: and then they came out with the movie to wrap
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Speaker 1: it up, and it was left on a miserable cliffhanger.
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Speaker 1: And I was able to watch the cliffhanger immediately after
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Speaker 1: I watched the final season episodes. So, um, I came
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Speaker 1: to that late. Buffy is the other one. Buffy I
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Speaker 1: came to about ten years late. It was until I
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Speaker 1: met my husband and he introduced me to it well
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Speaker 1: growing up, it was just not the kind of show
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Speaker 1: like I liked science fiction and I liked fantasy, but
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Speaker 1: Buffy just seemed a little bit dark and scary for me.
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Speaker 1: Watching it now, I mean there's certainly some dark and
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Speaker 1: some scary stuff, but yeah, it was and I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected to.
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Speaker 1: You know. I also came to Buffy a little late.
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Speaker 1: My mom was a huge fan of the show. And
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Speaker 1: my parents if you ever meet them, bless your heart.
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Speaker 1: They are wonderful, but they will if they are into something,
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Speaker 1: they they will talk about it at length. Um. And
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Speaker 1: and that was one of those things, like I've also
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Speaker 1: encountered that before, where you run into people who talk
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Speaker 1: a lot about something that you don't have any real experience,
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Speaker 1: and to me, it almost becomes like a way to
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Speaker 1: discourage me to get into it because I feel like
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Speaker 1: I've heard everything already. But I did finally start watching it.
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Speaker 1: It was it was still on the air when I
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Speaker 1: started watching. It was maybe like two seasons in, so
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Speaker 1: it wasn't super far in, but um, I caught up
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Speaker 1: pretty quickly, and then at that point I was watching
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Speaker 1: it week to week, so that you know I was,
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Speaker 1: I was on par with the show coming that I
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Speaker 1: would say that for me recently, one that I have
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Speaker 1: really plunged myself into is Community. And I had seen
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Speaker 1: an episode or two a Community in the past and
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed them. I just never watched it when it
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Speaker 1: was regularly on Tell. First of all, I barely watch
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Speaker 1: any TV, even way back then. But I I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen like I hadn't watched consecutive episodes, right, I had
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Speaker 1: seen a couple out of context, including some of the
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Speaker 1: really famous ones like the first Paintball episode, the War episode,
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Speaker 1: and over the last couple of days, I have been
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Speaker 1: spending an awful lot of time by myself because I
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Speaker 1: am currently isolating in case I have COVID. It is
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Speaker 1: the latest test I have taken has said that I
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Speaker 1: might not and uh. And I have watched a lot
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Speaker 1: of Community so much that I am about a third
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Speaker 1: of the way through the fifth season and I have
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Speaker 1: one season left after that and then I'm done. Wow,
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Speaker 1: that's not speaking of we had after our last episode.
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Speaker 1: I'm taking a brief Monney trail before we get into
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Speaker 1: our news. After our last episode, we had a listener Vivian. Vivian,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I've mispronounced it. Write us and tell
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Speaker 1: us about a show similar to Murderville that Australia did
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Speaker 1: and apparently the US picked up called Thank God you're here, Jonathan.
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Speaker 1: Have you watched any of that? I have not because
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Speaker 1: I still have episodes of Community to get through. All right, Well,
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Speaker 1: i'll remind you when you're done with the Community because
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Speaker 1: it is quite funny. Uh. Thanks, thanks for letting me
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Speaker 1: know about it. Okay, onto our news Razmatazz I forgot
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Speaker 1: to call you Razmataz earlier. I'm gonna I'm debating on
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Speaker 1: whether I want to call you that for the rest
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Speaker 1: of the episode. I want you to call me that
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Speaker 1: for the rest of the episode, for the rest of
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Speaker 1: your life. I've done it to myself. First news item
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Speaker 1: is about the Razzies, which is why Jonathan, his sorry
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Speaker 1: rast has has done this to himself. Yeah, and if
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Speaker 1: you're not familiar with the Razzies, these are yearly nominations
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Speaker 1: for some of the worst films and worst performances in films. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And depending upon the year, you could you could say, oh,
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Speaker 1: this is good natured ribbing for stuff that did not
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Speaker 1: turn out the way you wanted to, and in other
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Speaker 1: years you might say this is just vicious shuden freud,
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Speaker 1: where people are like laughing at you know, misfortune. So
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Speaker 1: I go back and forth as to whether I find
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Speaker 1: the Razzies of using or just mean spirited. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of nominations to talk about, including
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Speaker 1: an entire category dedicated to a single actor. Yeah. So
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Speaker 1: so here's the thing. In general, I feel like Razzies
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Speaker 1: are a little bit mean spirited, and sometimes I don't
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Speaker 1: even agree with them, Like, uh, there was a song
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Speaker 1: the movie Newsies that got nominated for a Razzie, and
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Speaker 1: I actually liked the song. I mean, it's a nothing song.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of dumb, but it's catchy. Um. But in general,
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Speaker 1: like these actors for a lot of these things. So
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Speaker 1: if you look at some of the nominees like Um,
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Speaker 1: Dear of Enhancent or The Woman in the Window or
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Speaker 1: even the Last Duel in the House of Gucci, these
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Speaker 1: actors put a lot of time and effort and thought
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Speaker 1: and care into their characters, even if the people who
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Speaker 1: nominated them for a Razzie thought that they missed the
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Speaker 1: mark or didn't didn't appeal to that particular judge. Like
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Speaker 1: these people they put their hearts into it to it
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Speaker 1: for the most part, and so in that sense, I
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Speaker 1: feel like it's a little mean spirited, right, But for
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Speaker 1: the category that's dedicated to a single actor, we're talking
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Speaker 1: about Bruce Willis, and I think both you and I
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Speaker 1: can agree that he certainly did not put his heart
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Speaker 1: into every single one of those projects. No, and and
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Speaker 1: for that, you know, I feel like maybe that category
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Speaker 1: is noted. At least having that category is funny, if
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Speaker 1: not um reasonable, because my understanding, now I haven't watched
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Speaker 1: the Red Letter Media um video on it like you did, Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: but my understanding of it from the people who've told
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Speaker 1: me about it, is that Bruce Willis got paid a
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Speaker 1: decent chunk of change to do these movies. They were
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Speaker 1: all really quick and he only showed up for part
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Speaker 1: of them. So there are times in like a movie
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Speaker 1: where he'll say a line and when he turns around,
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Speaker 1: it's obviously a different actor walking away. Um. Yeah. No.
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Speaker 1: If you watch that Red Letter Media video where they
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Speaker 1: essentially review, they look at eleven different directive video movies
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Speaker 1: that Bruce Willis did, Seven of them were done last year,
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Speaker 1: and uh, these are like movies that would show up
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Speaker 1: and say red box and you would go and rent
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Speaker 1: them and watch them, and they're all, uh, they're all
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Speaker 1: kind of marketed as these films that appeal to generally
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Speaker 1: like an older male demographic because because sort of like
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Speaker 1: the grouchy old man action star demographic. And um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: just as you say, there are sequences where you're you
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Speaker 1: look at Bruce Willis and he's clearly not in the
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Speaker 1: same place as the other actors who are in a scene,
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Speaker 1: and it's always in a two shot and that cuts
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Speaker 1: away to Bruce Willis, and it's clear that he shot
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Speaker 1: everything on like a single day of shooting, and whenever
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Speaker 1: they have a shot of his character in the same space,
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Speaker 1: he's always facing the other way. So it's just some
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Speaker 1: generic bald guy facing the other direction and it doesn't
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Speaker 1: typically look like Bruce Willis's build. Um and yeah, supposedly
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Speaker 1: he made like upwards of two million dollars per film,
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Speaker 1: So I mean, okay, that's crazy. Like I'm at a
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Speaker 1: point in my career where obviously, like I look at
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Speaker 1: any projects that I auditioned for to see whether it's
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Speaker 1: something that aligns with my personal structure of things that
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Speaker 1: I want to be involved in. But also I'm at
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Speaker 1: a point where I'm like, yeah, I want to be
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Speaker 1: in this because I want to grow my career. He's
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Speaker 1: at a point where I'm like, Okay, he's got enough
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Speaker 1: of a fan base that he can just do this
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Speaker 1: and make some easy, good money. That was really good
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Speaker 1: money to me. Yeah, maybe he just wants to like
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Speaker 1: build out a new hot tub or something, and so
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Speaker 1: he's like, I'll just go and work for like six
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Speaker 1: hours and get two million dollars maybe, And like, if
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Speaker 1: I were in that place where I have such a
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Speaker 1: long and popular career that I could do that and
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Speaker 1: make like two thousand dollars in a few days or
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Speaker 1: a week or something like that. Two million, Sorry not
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Speaker 1: to right now. I'd probably do it for two thousand
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Speaker 1: to but yeah, two million dollars. Like I can't say
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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't consider it at least. I mean, I'd
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Speaker 1: like to think that my my standards are are more
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Speaker 1: important than money. But I'm also not being offered two
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Speaker 1: billion dollars, so it's easy for me to say it now.
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Speaker 1: YEA offered me a couple of million, and I might
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Speaker 1: be singing a different tune but I do think it
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Speaker 1: opens you to be to the criticism. Yes, so the
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Speaker 1: razzies are you know, there are a lot of different
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Speaker 1: movies that were nominated. A big one that showed up
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Speaker 1: in a ton of different categories was a filmed version
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Speaker 1: of Diana the Musical, which closed after thirty three performances
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Speaker 1: on Broadway. It did not du well, is the easy
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Speaker 1: way of saying it, which actually just made me think
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Speaker 1: that I kind of wish I could do a show.
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Speaker 1: It's impossible, but I would love to do a podcast
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Speaker 1: where the hosts watch failed Broadway productions, things that only
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Speaker 1: existed for a short time and closed very quickly, just
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Speaker 1: to kind of determine how bad were they, Like everything
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Speaker 1: from Spider Man Turn Off the Dark to the original
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Speaker 1: Carry musical Two Legs Diamond. I mean, there's tons of
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Speaker 1: shows that just completely imploded one. I would a thousand
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Speaker 1: percent do that with you if it were possible to. Technically.
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Speaker 1: Some of those might be possible if someone bootleg recorded
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Speaker 1: from the audience, which I don't suggest doing and I
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Speaker 1: don't condone. Yeah. Well, and some of them, though, are
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Speaker 1: like old enough where if you were trying to bootleg,
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Speaker 1: you would have had like a thirty pound video cassette
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Speaker 1: camera mounted on your shoulder in order to do it
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Speaker 1: because it was in like the eighties. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: I would love to do that, just because, I mean,
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Speaker 1: Ariel and I both have done musical theater and we know,
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Speaker 1: like sometimes you start off with a project and you're like, Wow,
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be great, and then it's not until
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Speaker 1: you get close to the end where you think, wow,
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Speaker 1: this is not going to be good at all. It's
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Speaker 1: too late. Then well, um, we're gonna run out of
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Speaker 1: time because we've spent so much time talking about this,
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Speaker 1: but I need to talk about this next thing. So
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Speaker 1: while we were gonna we're definitely gonna chat about this
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Speaker 1: at least for a couple of minutes. One of the
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Speaker 1: news stories you came across areal is about a prequel
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Speaker 1: to Beauty and the Beast, and I wanted to talk
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Speaker 1: about it. So first of all, we're just going to
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Speaker 1: pause here because for the next five minutes I'm just
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Speaker 1: going to scream incoherently and we'll pick right back up.
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Speaker 1: So Tarry just just cut here. Okay, I got that
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Speaker 1: out of my system. So Ariel, what's the deal, what's
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Speaker 1: the deal with this? Prequel. So Disney is making a
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Speaker 1: series that is, oh gosh, it's returning to the small
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Speaker 1: French town of Villeneuve. I don't even know if that's
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Speaker 1: how you pronounce it. Look, this is how little I
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Speaker 1: like Disney's Beauty and the Beast's got some great songs,
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Speaker 1: but I like the original story better. Okay. Anyhow, going
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Speaker 1: back to that, I know some people love it. That's great,
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Speaker 1: that's fantastic. This story is taking place to tell the
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Speaker 1: backstory of Gaston and Lafu, at which point, like, I
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Speaker 1: hope they don't call it Beauty and the Beast because
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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with this um and how guest
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Speaker 1: On and Lafu became friends, and I really don't care. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so here's here's why, Like when I saw this, here's
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Speaker 1: why my brain melted down. We know what happens to
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Speaker 1: guest On, Like, we know what happened. Guest On dies,
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Speaker 1: guest On is he's killed, He falls to his death.
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Speaker 1: So we know where the story is going. Do you
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Speaker 1: really want a buddy picture between him and Lafu where
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Speaker 1: you might possibly gain an empathetic attraction to this character.
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Speaker 1: They've done it with Maleficent, they did it with Cruella.
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Speaker 1: So Cruella didn't die though, Did she not die in
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Speaker 1: the in the cartoon? No, she doesn't die in the
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Speaker 1: car accident. No, I don't think so. I just think
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Speaker 1: she did. It's been a long time because it has
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Speaker 1: been a long time since I've seen it too, So
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Speaker 1: I could be totally off there. She might she might
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Speaker 1: not perish in a terrible carrect I can't remember well.
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Speaker 1: But but here's the here's the just scription. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to read a little bit more of it, which is
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Speaker 1: the mischievous and selfish do I discover a surprising revelation
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Speaker 1: that leads them to Lafu step sister Tilly on a
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Speaker 1: whirlwind journey filled with the typical Disney buffet of romance,
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Speaker 1: comedy and adventure. But then there's like rita Aura, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: She's a British singer if you don't know, and she's
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Speaker 1: playing like this secret agent type character, and I just
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Speaker 1: it feels it feels like, really, what they want to
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Speaker 1: do is more Once upon a Time. Yeah, I am yeah,
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Speaker 1: I you gotta start, you gotta start drawing a line
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Speaker 1: with these Disney villain backstory projects. I don't I don't
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Speaker 1: need the whole thing about fairy tales for me is
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Speaker 1: that they're very simple, right, is very simple to know
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Speaker 1: the good from the bad. And you don't need nuance
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Speaker 1: in a fairy tale villain, like it's just not necessary
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Speaker 1: because that's not the purpose of that framework. Um And
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Speaker 1: I get that we have this fascination with understanding villains
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Speaker 1: more and getting like a sense of motivation and making
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Speaker 1: them deeper than just being bad. I get that, But
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Speaker 1: I also I am tired of it now. I get it.
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Speaker 1: I am too. And I say that we have friends
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Speaker 1: who absolutely prefer the villains over the like the Disney princesses.
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Speaker 1: So we've got a friend who loves Maleficent, you know,
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Speaker 1: um and so I'm sure for her she probably likes that.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never actually spoken with her
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Speaker 1: about it. She probably likes Maleficent movies because she likes
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Speaker 1: that character from Sleeping and and and my favorite Disney
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Speaker 1: character is your favorite Disney characters arch Nemesis, which is Hook.
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Speaker 1: And well, I would say we got a story about him,
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Speaker 1: but now Hook, this movie Hook is one I don't
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Speaker 1: think it's Disney and too, it's about Peter pan Um.
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Speaker 1: But but so I get it because like when you
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Speaker 1: go to a Disney park, Gaston is a lot of
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Speaker 1: fun to interact with because he's so full of himself
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Speaker 1: it's fun. Yes, he he's one of the few Disney characters.
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Speaker 1: I would say that Madame Tremaine and the and the
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Speaker 1: Steps sisters also qualify for this, but one of the
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Speaker 1: few characters who gets to mess with guests and a
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Speaker 1: fun and fun way, like he gets to raz guests
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Speaker 1: and not a lot of characters get to do that. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll have to wait and see. Maybe I'll change my
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Speaker 1: tune about this prequel later, but for right now, call
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Speaker 1: me major ly skeptical. I can't call you Razmataz and
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Speaker 1: major league skeptical. Listen. Major League skeptical is my army title.
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Speaker 1: All right, So we're going to We're gonna take a
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Speaker 1: quick break, and when we come back, we're finally going
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Speaker 1: to tackle the Peacemaker series. Okay, major Ly skeptical Rasumutaz,
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Speaker 1: Yes that's my full name. You and I both watched Peacemakers.
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Speaker 1: So you said you don't watch a lot of TV,
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Speaker 1: but I guess listeners, you can make Jonathan watch TV
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Speaker 1: if you request us to review a show or movie. Um, yes,
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Speaker 1: we already talked about Eternals way too long. Um after
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Speaker 1: the episode, Yeah we did. We kept on going, but
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Speaker 1: let's be fair, that still wasn't as long as the
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Speaker 1: movie was. That's true. And now we're going to talk
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Speaker 1: about Peace Peacemaker, which which does pick up after the
19:41
Speaker 1: Suicide Squad. Uh. Now, Ariel, did you watch the Suicide Squad?
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Speaker 1: I did. I watched the Suicide Squad and I enjoyed
19:51
Speaker 1: it a lot more than I thought I would. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I I did too. I mean it was I did
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Speaker 1: feel like the great with this violence got I get
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Speaker 1: that it was played off as a joke, but it
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Speaker 1: was a bit much for me. I mean, James Gunn
20:06
Speaker 1: can do that. I know. I'm familiar with James Gunn's work,
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Speaker 1: so I wasn't surprised by it necessarily, but um, you know,
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Speaker 1: and it's not like I object to gore, but I
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Speaker 1: just was like, this feels like it's a little like
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Speaker 1: it's unnecessary how gory this movie is. Um, but whatever,
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Speaker 1: I'm not the one making it. And uh, I remember
20:26
Speaker 1: going into Peacemaker thinking this must be like a prequel
20:30
Speaker 1: or something, because it's no way it could follow the
20:32
Speaker 1: Suicide Squad because spoiler alert if you haven't seen The
20:35
Speaker 1: Suicide Squad, Peacemaker really does seem like there's no way
20:39
Speaker 1: he could have survived that because he gets shot in
20:41
Speaker 1: the neck and then a building falls on him. And
20:45
Speaker 1: yet this is a sequel, and and that's like the
20:49
Speaker 1: first episode opens, and I don't think this is a
20:51
Speaker 1: big spoiler with in fact, it isn't with clips from
20:55
Speaker 1: the end of the movie, so it's kind of like
20:58
Speaker 1: a previously on but with movie footage, which is really
21:02
Speaker 1: unique for a TV show. I don't I don't think
21:04
Speaker 1: I can recall any other TV shows other than maybe
21:07
Speaker 1: like a Marvel one doing that and not to the
21:11
Speaker 1: same extent. Well, and I love that immediately you find
21:15
Speaker 1: out the only real damage he had was that he
21:18
Speaker 1: had to have his collar bone replaced and that was
21:21
Speaker 1: it and everything else was fine, because once you get
21:23
Speaker 1: to that, once you get to that point where James
21:25
Speaker 1: Gunn says all that he suffered, I mean, he got
21:28
Speaker 1: shot in the neck, but he survived that. The only
21:30
Speaker 1: thing he had to have replaced was a collar bone.
21:32
Speaker 1: Everything else was fine. Once you get that, you've got
21:35
Speaker 1: the message of this show is going to be ridiculous.
21:40
Speaker 1: It is not going to apologize for being ridiculous. And
21:43
Speaker 1: either you're on board or you're not. So Jonathan, are
21:47
Speaker 1: you on board? I am so on board. I am
21:51
Speaker 1: as onboarded as on board can be. Now that's not
21:55
Speaker 1: to say that I think the show is perfect. I
21:57
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of things about the show
21:59
Speaker 1: that I don't love. But um but generally speaking, I
22:04
Speaker 1: find the show to be really entertaining. There there's some
22:07
Speaker 1: real inconsistencies with certain characters, and I do not like
22:11
Speaker 1: how hypocritical certain characters can be, where they can like
22:15
Speaker 1: be super judge about someone doing something that they literally
22:19
Speaker 1: turn around five seconds later and do themselves, and and
22:23
Speaker 1: not with a like it doesn't appear to be done intentionally, right,
22:27
Speaker 1: if it's done intentionally where that's part of their character
22:31
Speaker 1: and you realize, oh, it's part of their character, that
22:34
Speaker 1: they're a hypocrite and that that's just who they are,
22:38
Speaker 1: that's one thing, But that's not how it's coming across
22:40
Speaker 1: to me. It's more like it's convenient for the plot
22:43
Speaker 1: for the character to do this at this moment. Yeah,
22:46
Speaker 1: I do feel that. I feel like so the series
22:49
Speaker 1: is not done yet. I think it's eight episodes. They
22:52
Speaker 1: we only have six so far. Um. I feel like,
22:56
Speaker 1: at least for the first two and a half, if
22:58
Speaker 1: not the first three episodes, the characters are all caricatures.
23:03
Speaker 1: That's that's a hard that's a hard line to draw though,
23:06
Speaker 1: because the entire series is so gonzo, right Like, it's
23:09
Speaker 1: so it's very trauma. It's very trauma to me. Like
23:14
Speaker 1: it feels there's certain characters that are definitely deeper than others,
23:18
Speaker 1: right Like Hardcourt feels like she's got a little bit
23:21
Speaker 1: more going on. Um, although she's also one of the
23:24
Speaker 1: ones who's worse about being a hypocrite. I feel I
23:27
Speaker 1: feel like she has moments that are really intriguing and
23:30
Speaker 1: one that I'm like, give me the resolution to it.
23:33
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I feel like she's kind
23:34
Speaker 1: of one note personally. I feel like she's got a
23:37
Speaker 1: little bit more. Well, I guess see what you're saying.
23:40
Speaker 1: I assume, like, what's okay? So another spoiler alert if
23:44
Speaker 1: you haven't watched the first episode, but one of the
23:45
Speaker 1: characters is Amanda Waller's daughter. What do you remember what
23:49
Speaker 1: her character name is? Leota? Yeah? Yeah, so she Leota.
23:55
Speaker 1: She she is She's actually got a lot more going
23:58
Speaker 1: on because you can see that she's conflicted about the
24:01
Speaker 1: stuff that she has to do. Um. I am very
24:03
Speaker 1: curious to find out what the heck Amanda Waller's plan was,
24:07
Speaker 1: because in the most recent episode, an element that was
24:12
Speaker 1: first hinted at in the very beginning of the series
24:15
Speaker 1: finally happened. And yet I don't know what the Yeah,
24:21
Speaker 1: so I I have a love hate relationship with this series, Jonathan.
24:27
Speaker 1: It is the violence, oddly enough, is not too much
24:31
Speaker 1: for me. I maybe it's because I expected more from Peacemaker.
24:35
Speaker 1: I expected a lot more violence, and the violence is
24:37
Speaker 1: pretty gory, and they do some pretty grotesque and shock
24:41
Speaker 1: value things for me though, like the language and the
24:48
Speaker 1: sexiness part, like the I'm pretty conservative in what I
24:53
Speaker 1: like to watch as far as like skin. Um, I'm
24:58
Speaker 1: I'm old fashioned, fate to b act and there's there's
25:01
Speaker 1: there's just some stuff in there, like if it's put
25:06
Speaker 1: in well or there's meaning or something like, I'm totally
25:08
Speaker 1: fine with that, or if it's done tastefully. And I
25:10
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of it is in the show
25:12
Speaker 1: is for like shock value or juvenile to get a laugh,
25:16
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't make me laugh, and yeah, but
25:19
Speaker 1: it's it's I don't know. I always feel like blue
25:22
Speaker 1: Humor is such a lazy punchline. Not not always very often. Yeah,
25:28
Speaker 1: I mean, I see what you're saying. I can't disagree.
25:32
Speaker 1: Like there is a little bit of unnecessary nudity in
25:38
Speaker 1: there that's played up as a laugh. There's one particular
25:42
Speaker 1: dirty word they say a lot, and I didn't think
25:44
Speaker 1: that word bothered me until I watched this show. Okay,
25:48
Speaker 1: that's interesting. We'll have to have a conversation about that
25:50
Speaker 1: when we're not recording. Um. Yeah, I So it's weird
25:56
Speaker 1: because they're also playing with a protagonist who's not terribly likable.
26:00
Speaker 1: Peacemaker is a bad person, and he's a bad guy.
26:03
Speaker 1: He's part of the suicide squad. He's a villain. Um,
26:06
Speaker 1: so he's not he's not a good person, and they
26:10
Speaker 1: frequently show you that he is not a good person,
26:13
Speaker 1: that he is shallow, egotistical, sexist, um. And at the
26:20
Speaker 1: same time, they make you feel so bad and so
26:23
Speaker 1: much sympathy for him that like you dislike yourself because
26:27
Speaker 1: you're like, I know he's a missing stare, but like, well,
26:32
Speaker 1: but he's so nice to this person or he meant, well,
26:36
Speaker 1: here he didn't need to offend somebody, or I can
26:39
Speaker 1: see that he's hurting. Yeah, and so it's it's it's
26:43
Speaker 1: great commentary on today's society, you know, um, and it's
26:48
Speaker 1: frustrating as if you were because I'm like, oh, I
26:52
Speaker 1: don't want to like him, Okay, now I hate him.
26:53
Speaker 1: Oh no, now I feel sympathy for him again. And
26:55
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, as a good human being, you
26:58
Speaker 1: should feel sympathy for other human beings in general. But yeah, well,
27:04
Speaker 1: I mean, when there is brutally violent as Peacemaker, it's
27:09
Speaker 1: a little hard to feel that way. But he's not
27:12
Speaker 1: as bad as Vigilante, which is another superhero in the series,
27:15
Speaker 1: which is literally like Deadpool if Deadpool had absolutely no
27:20
Speaker 1: carrying bones in his body. Well, yeah, he's a sociopath.
27:24
Speaker 1: He has he's which I think he even mentions that
27:27
Speaker 1: he's a sociopath at one point. He does not identify, understand,
27:32
Speaker 1: or experience emotions, and so he idolizes Peacemaker, but he is.
27:39
Speaker 1: He is essentially considered like, oh, it's cool to kill
27:43
Speaker 1: you know, people I've identified as being bad, and who
27:46
Speaker 1: I identify as being bad is a very flexible definition
27:50
Speaker 1: that can apply different ways in different situations. I think
27:54
Speaker 1: it's interesting, like it is, you know, it's it's I
27:58
Speaker 1: think we're in an era where are kind of seeing
28:02
Speaker 1: a lot of this sort of commentary on superheroes while
28:04
Speaker 1: the superhero craze is still i mean, Marvel still churning
28:08
Speaker 1: out superhero content left, right and center. But it's also
28:13
Speaker 1: interesting that we've got stuff like Invincible, which obviously existed
28:17
Speaker 1: before it was an animated series. We've got The Boys,
28:21
Speaker 1: We've got this where it's kind of um, you know,
28:27
Speaker 1: looking at things from a different angle and deconstructing. I mean,
28:31
Speaker 1: this isn't new either. I mean obviously Watchman did that
28:34
Speaker 1: ages ago, but I think it's fascinating that we have
28:39
Speaker 1: that element too. It's also the issue I have a
28:42
Speaker 1: lot with a lot of other DC properties because they
28:44
Speaker 1: seem to be doing that just in the regular mainstream
28:47
Speaker 1: DC content, And I'm like, well, can't you just have
28:50
Speaker 1: your regular mainstream DC content and then have the stuff
28:53
Speaker 1: that deconstructs it. You don't need to deconstruct yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
28:58
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. But I know, so what, Well, overall,
29:03
Speaker 1: would you say that you're finding the series entertaining or
29:06
Speaker 1: is it like something you're watching at this point just
29:09
Speaker 1: to see it through. Um Okay, I am not finding
29:14
Speaker 1: it entertaining that I would necessarily recommend it to. I
29:19
Speaker 1: would have to be very specific who I recommended it to. Um.
29:23
Speaker 1: But the storyline itself, yes, I do want to see
29:26
Speaker 1: how that plays out. I think the storyline is is intriguing,
29:31
Speaker 1: and especially like I said, they've they finally put out
29:33
Speaker 1: some stuff where I'm like, how does this resolve? I
29:34
Speaker 1: need to know? And also John Cena, this is not
29:39
Speaker 1: a sentence I ever thought I'd say. He is such
29:42
Speaker 1: an amazing actor. M I like he he. I knew
29:49
Speaker 1: he had good comedy chops and you know, uh and
29:52
Speaker 1: skills and talent, but like hes, his performance has just
29:57
Speaker 1: blown me away. Yeah, I know. I I've been very
30:01
Speaker 1: much entertained by it. Um. I also think it has
30:04
Speaker 1: the greatest opening credits sequence I've seen in years. That
30:10
Speaker 1: dance sequences is amazing. And now that we know that
30:13
Speaker 1: Alan Tutti stood in for John Cena during the the
30:18
Speaker 1: chore choreography or the blocking, that's phenomenal too, because yeah,
30:24
Speaker 1: because his his his wife is a choreographer and she's
30:28
Speaker 1: the one who was putting together that opening sequence, and
30:32
Speaker 1: John Cena wasn't available one day, so they brought in
30:34
Speaker 1: her husband, Alan two Dick to stand in for him.
30:37
Speaker 1: And of course we think of Alan two Dick as
30:39
Speaker 1: you know, the guy from Firefly as well as voicing
30:41
Speaker 1: every other character in Disney. Um, that's true. So yeah,
30:45
Speaker 1: this was this is one. I'm very eager to see
30:48
Speaker 1: how it all plays out too, because I'm curious how
30:50
Speaker 1: many like triple crosses we're going to see because it
30:53
Speaker 1: seems like half the characters have secrets from the other
30:56
Speaker 1: half of the characters, and you are assuming that at
30:59
Speaker 1: least some of those are going to get uncovered before
31:01
Speaker 1: the series is over. Yeah. Yeah, there there's only two
31:05
Speaker 1: more episodes and there's a lot to tie up, so yeah,
31:09
Speaker 1: and I would not be shocked to see that this
31:12
Speaker 1: gets renewed for another season. It's already I mean, HBO
31:15
Speaker 1: Max has essentially said that this is one of the
31:18
Speaker 1: most popular properties that they have brought out on their
31:21
Speaker 1: their streaming service. So yeah, thanks for the suggestion to
31:25
Speaker 1: check it out, because uh, you know, without it, I
31:28
Speaker 1: don't know the areal would have would have bothered watching it.
31:31
Speaker 1: And I know, I probably wouldn't have watched the Turnals.
31:34
Speaker 1: I would have intended to watch it, and then it
31:37
Speaker 1: probably would have gone on my long Like I actually
31:40
Speaker 1: keep a list on my phone of all the shows
31:41
Speaker 1: that I want to watch because it gets to a
31:43
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, I don't have time. What did
31:46
Speaker 1: I want to watch? I don't remember. Okay, I'm just
31:48
Speaker 1: gonna watch Ships Creak again. That's see. I feel like
31:51
Speaker 1: I'm going to end up having to watch this show
31:53
Speaker 1: I've heard about that I need to get into, called
31:56
Speaker 1: Brooklyn nine nine. So maybe yes on a thin so good?
32:02
Speaker 1: It is so good and like, okay the first time
32:05
Speaker 1: I watched it, and maybe I did not mean for
32:08
Speaker 1: this to become It'll be quick, It'll be quick. Okay,
32:11
Speaker 1: I might need to watch Peacekeeper again, Peacemaker again. Maybe
32:14
Speaker 1: I'll like you about it the second time, because the
32:15
Speaker 1: first time I watched Parks and Rec I didn't care
32:17
Speaker 1: for it. Second time I really enjoyed it. First time
32:19
Speaker 1: I watched Brooklyn and Not I didn't care for it.
32:21
Speaker 1: I stopped early. In second time I picked it up.
32:24
Speaker 1: It was brilliant, like it very much? Is that hijinks? Uh?
32:30
Speaker 1: Prankster sort of humor, especially in the earlier seasons. As
32:33
Speaker 1: long as you know that going in. Um, Yeah, I mean,
32:37
Speaker 1: it's just so good. One of the one of the
32:39
Speaker 1: episodes I actually did watch because it was available on
32:42
Speaker 1: a plane when I was flying someplace, was the Cinco
32:46
Speaker 1: de Mayo heist, which I did not realize meant that
32:50
Speaker 1: there were other heists, Like I didn't know that that
32:53
Speaker 1: was a thing, and then I learned that it is. Yes, yes,
32:56
Speaker 1: but that's a discussion for a different episode. We're gonna
32:59
Speaker 1: have to wrap this up because we've got a mash
33:00
Speaker 1: up we gotta do. Okay, major lely skeptical rasmatazz. Yes, uh,
33:25
Speaker 1: let's do this mash up thing. Yeah. So was there
33:34
Speaker 1: a reason you picked Jaws? Yes, because so there was
33:39
Speaker 1: a lot of news this week, but a lot of
33:40
Speaker 1: it just wasn't really inspiring us to mash it up. Yeah,
33:47
Speaker 1: And a lot of what we're involving properties that we've
33:49
Speaker 1: already used recently, Like we don't want to reuse stuff
33:53
Speaker 1: too frequently or too close together. And we have some
33:57
Speaker 1: listener suggestions, but again either the properties are close us too.
34:00
Speaker 1: We we've recently done the mash up, and and we
34:03
Speaker 1: want to wait a little bit more before we do
34:05
Speaker 1: the property, or we're still trying to figure out the
34:06
Speaker 1: best angle, because sometimes the suggestions a little bit broad,
34:10
Speaker 1: like do this sort of a thing and this sort
34:12
Speaker 1: of a thing, Like that's a great idea, let us.
34:14
Speaker 1: So we're working on those. So had to come up
34:17
Speaker 1: with one this week and Jonathan said, what about something
34:19
Speaker 1: with the Oscars And we were like, huh, A lot
34:24
Speaker 1: of these we've already mashed up. Um. Yeah, And you know,
34:28
Speaker 1: you have to look, you have to look pretty far
34:30
Speaker 1: into the categories to find stuff that typically falls into
34:34
Speaker 1: the geek sphere and the Oscars because, as we all know,
34:37
Speaker 1: science fiction, horror, those kind of genres they don't get
34:40
Speaker 1: they don't typically get a lot of love from the Oscars. Yes,
34:45
Speaker 1: but West Side Story was on there. Steven Spielberg directed
34:49
Speaker 1: West Side Story. Steven Spielberg also directed Jaws Ergo. Jaws
34:54
Speaker 1: is one of ours. We had already done West Side Stories,
34:57
Speaker 1: so we couldn't do that. And I looked through I'm like, okay,
35:01
Speaker 1: remind me, Stephen, which did you do? Okay, okay, okay, okay,
35:05
Speaker 1: We've done that. We've done that. I don't feel like
35:07
Speaker 1: that you weren't into Close Encounters of the third kind
35:10
Speaker 1: or ET or Artificial intell we've done ET or artificial
35:13
Speaker 1: intelligence or UM. Ready Player one was one that I
35:17
Speaker 1: was considered. I don't think of I don't think of
35:18
Speaker 1: Artificial Intelligence as a Spielberg one because it started out
35:21
Speaker 1: as a Kubrick one. But I totally get what you're saying. Yeah,
35:24
Speaker 1: it's if you look at Steven Spielberg gets under his
35:26
Speaker 1: list of sure publishments. So we're doing Jaws, which came
35:30
Speaker 1: out the year I was born. It's also my favorite
35:33
Speaker 1: movie of all time. I still can't watch it all
35:36
Speaker 1: the way through. It's really scary to me. I love
35:39
Speaker 1: that movie. I have it on Blu Ray and it
35:41
Speaker 1: is like four It's one of the few four K
35:45
Speaker 1: Blu Ray movies that I own because I love it
35:47
Speaker 1: so much. So we we chose to mesh that up
35:50
Speaker 1: with shung Chi. Yes, because we haven't done that. It
35:54
Speaker 1: might also be nominated for something. I don't remember. The
35:58
Speaker 1: Oustar nominations just came out. I haven't had much time
36:00
Speaker 1: to look at him. I think maybe for visual effects,
36:03
Speaker 1: but yeah, shan Chi. So I guess we should do
36:06
Speaker 1: a quick rundown of what these are obviously, so Jaws
36:10
Speaker 1: if you've lived under a rock for the last half century,
36:13
Speaker 1: or you just don't like scary fish movies right well,
36:17
Speaker 1: it's based off a novel Peter Benchley also called Jaws.
36:21
Speaker 1: It's a story about a New England Island town that
36:26
Speaker 1: is terrorized by the presence of a great white shark
36:29
Speaker 1: off the coast that is attacking people and not leaving
36:33
Speaker 1: because it's food supply is right there. And the story
36:37
Speaker 1: of a sheriff who is trying desperately one to get
36:41
Speaker 1: the town to listen to him and then two to
36:43
Speaker 1: get rid of the shark. That's Jaws in a nutshell,
36:48
Speaker 1: great monster movie, very well done, and the reason it
36:51
Speaker 1: was really well done is because famously, the mechanical shark
36:55
Speaker 1: they had for the film didn't work very well, so
36:59
Speaker 1: spiel Work was forced to work around that, and it
37:02
Speaker 1: meant that they weren't showing the shark nearly as much
37:05
Speaker 1: as they had originally intended, which actually makes the movie
37:09
Speaker 1: way more tense. Yes, definitely. And shan Chen Legends in
37:13
Speaker 1: the Legend of the Ten Rings is a movie that well,
37:15
Speaker 1: Shanci has been a comic book character for a while,
37:18
Speaker 1: but Disney just recently came out with a movie. And
37:21
Speaker 1: he's a cool dude who's a valet with his friend
37:26
Speaker 1: and then uh he through HIJIENSI Sneigan and scary stuff,
37:32
Speaker 1: gets attacked on a bus and he fights some bad
37:34
Speaker 1: guys and they take his necklace, and then he has
37:36
Speaker 1: to go find his sister because she's in danger because
37:39
Speaker 1: they took his necklace. Um, and then it goes on
37:44
Speaker 1: from there. Yeah. No, important things to know is that
37:48
Speaker 1: his dad is a uh an ancient warlord who who
37:54
Speaker 1: possesses and wields ten incredibly powerful madge your cool maybe
38:01
Speaker 1: rings that are bracelets and that he can use for
38:04
Speaker 1: all sorts of powerful attacks. Also, if you've watched Iron
38:08
Speaker 1: Man three, he's the Mandarin. Yes, all right, so that's
38:14
Speaker 1: all we need to know. Who do you want to
38:15
Speaker 1: go first? I'll let you go first. Okay. Mine is
38:19
Speaker 1: called Jaws and the tin rings. All right. Amity Island
38:24
Speaker 1: has a problem. See it's summer season, the busiest time
38:27
Speaker 1: for Amity, which is positively dependent upon tourism. Without tourists,
38:31
Speaker 1: the local economy simply wouldn't be enough to provide for
38:34
Speaker 1: the local community. So you can see how very important
38:37
Speaker 1: it is to keep the beaches open at all costs.
38:40
Speaker 1: And normally that's not really the problem because normally there's
38:44
Speaker 1: no reason to close the beaches. But this year, the
38:47
Speaker 1: year of nineteen, is different because off the shoreline of
38:51
Speaker 1: Amity Island, cruising the waters below the surface, where you
38:55
Speaker 1: cannot see it until it's too late, is the ten Rings. Yes,
38:59
Speaker 1: the terrorists and criminal organization led by a giant great
39:04
Speaker 1: white shark who happens to wield ten rings like ten bracelets,
39:09
Speaker 1: but they're on the shark's tail, So the ten rings
39:12
Speaker 1: refers I want to be clear about this. It refers
39:15
Speaker 1: to both the weapon that's on the shark and the organization.
39:19
Speaker 1: And I know this gets a bit confusing, but it's
39:21
Speaker 1: okay because both are off the coast of Amity Island.
39:25
Speaker 1: And that's not okay. I mean, I said just now
39:28
Speaker 1: that it is okay, But by that, I mean it's
39:31
Speaker 1: okay that there's this confusion with the name ten Rings
39:34
Speaker 1: because it refers to different stuff. But it's not okay
39:37
Speaker 1: that they are actually off the coast of Amity Island
39:39
Speaker 1: because and I don't know if I mentioned this, but
39:41
Speaker 1: the island depends on tourism and having a terrorist organization
39:44
Speaker 1: active beneath the waters just off the coast is bad
39:47
Speaker 1: draw for tourists anyway. At first, Amity is totally unaware
39:53
Speaker 1: of the dangers lurking beneath the waves. But then one
39:55
Speaker 1: day a bunch of college students around on the beach
39:57
Speaker 1: at night, partying and drinking, and a couple of them
40:00
Speaker 1: break off from the rest of the group, and there's
40:02
Speaker 1: this pretty young college woman and her drunk as a
40:04
Speaker 1: skunk would be suitor, and the woman wants to go swimming,
40:08
Speaker 1: but the dude trips and essentially passes out on the
40:10
Speaker 1: beach and the woman swims out into the water, but
40:14
Speaker 1: then out of nowhere, the woman starts getting jerked around
40:17
Speaker 1: in the water, and in a moment we understand she's
40:19
Speaker 1: being attacked. And then we cut to the next day
40:22
Speaker 1: when the new sheriff of Emity, a guy named shung Chi,
40:25
Speaker 1: is called out to the beach because a body has
40:27
Speaker 1: been found there. Shung Chi sees the remains of this
40:31
Speaker 1: poor young woman, and the coroner initially says that her
40:35
Speaker 1: death appeared to be caused by a mad warlord shark
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Speaker 1: wielding magical weapons. That was the cause of death. So
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Speaker 1: that's what Sean Chi is typing up in his report.
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Speaker 1: But then the mayor of Emity stops by corner and
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Speaker 1: tow and explains that no, no, no, no, no, it
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Speaker 1: can't be that, because if it were, that could mean
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Speaker 1: the end of tourist season, and so it was definitely
40:55
Speaker 1: a boating accident, right, And the corner says, well, yeah,
40:59
Speaker 1: I guess that's right, and shuan Chi is like, say
41:01
Speaker 1: what you told me? It was a crazed warlord shark
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Speaker 1: that was wielding magic rings, and the corners like, whoopsie,
41:06
Speaker 1: easy mistake. Anyway, the mayor keeps the whole thing quiet
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Speaker 1: so that the beaches can stay open. And then this
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Speaker 1: kid named Alex Kittner he uh. He convinces his mom
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Speaker 1: to let him go back into the water, but once
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Speaker 1: he's out there, the ten rings strike again and the
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Speaker 1: poor kid is pulled beneath the waves. And the town
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Speaker 1: holds a meeting, and now the mayor's really feeling the
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Speaker 1: pressure from the local business owners, and Shan Chi is
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Speaker 1: pushing to close the beaches and the business folks are objecting,
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Speaker 1: and the mayor says it will only be temporary in
41:34
Speaker 1: order to play Kate. The locals, even though shan Chi
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Speaker 1: thinks it's a bad idea. And later that day, a
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Speaker 1: very confused Trevor Slattery shows up, apparently dealing with some
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Speaker 1: amnesia because he thinks he might be a quote water
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Speaker 1: animal scientist end quote, because he doesn't know what a
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Speaker 1: marine biologist is. But he tells shan Chi that he'll help,
41:56
Speaker 1: and so he goes to look at the remains of
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Speaker 1: the young woman and say, as this was no boating accident,
42:02
Speaker 1: so you know we established that. Then there's another close
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Speaker 1: call when the Ten Rings, the organization, not the weapon,
42:09
Speaker 1: just to clear things up, totally blow up a fishing
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Speaker 1: boat in a lagoon that has some kids playing in it,
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Speaker 1: so you know things are really serious, and this gives
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Speaker 1: shan Chi enough leverage to actually do something about the problem. Anyway.
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Speaker 1: Shanchi then charters a boat with Trevor and they set
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Speaker 1: out to find the Ten Rings and their boats captain
42:26
Speaker 1: is this guy named Quin who tells a story of
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Speaker 1: how in World War Two he was aboard a ship
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Speaker 1: that was attacked by the Ten Rings. I didn't see
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Speaker 1: the first war lord for about half hour. Sometimes that
42:37
Speaker 1: war lord looks right at you, right into your eyes,
42:41
Speaker 1: and The thing about a war lord is he's got
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Speaker 1: lifeless eyes, black eyes like a doll's eyes. When he
42:47
Speaker 1: comes at you, he doesn't even seem to be living
42:50
Speaker 1: until he hurls them rings at you, and those black
42:53
Speaker 1: eyes roll over white, and then ah, then you hear
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Speaker 1: the terrible, high pitched screaming. Son went into the water.
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Speaker 1: Three sixteen men came out. Ten rings took the rest,
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Speaker 1: and like the speech is really good, right, Like it's
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Speaker 1: the kind of speech that everyone is going to really
43:11
Speaker 1: remember from the movie. Except there was also this bit
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Speaker 1: where shan Chi was shoveling chum out the back of
43:16
Speaker 1: a boat and the giant shark springs up for a
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Speaker 1: moment and Sean Che says, we're gonna need a bigger ring.
43:21
Speaker 1: That one also always gets them. Anyway, they managed to
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Speaker 1: beat the stuffing on a bunch of ten rings terrorists
43:26
Speaker 1: who don't move so fast under the water because they're
43:28
Speaker 1: just in all that scooba gear. So it's hardly a
43:31
Speaker 1: fair fight. But they're still after the ring leader of
43:35
Speaker 1: the ten rings, as it were, I mean literally the
43:38
Speaker 1: leader with all the rings, the ring leader, you know,
43:40
Speaker 1: the shark. So that's who they're going for. Anyway, the
43:44
Speaker 1: giant sharks starts attacking the boat like he's got a
43:46
Speaker 1: personal vendetta against the boat, and Sean Chi is trying
43:49
Speaker 1: to fight back, but like it's so hard to fight
43:52
Speaker 1: under the water, you know, And then the shark essentially
43:55
Speaker 1: chops the boat in half with the rings that wields
43:57
Speaker 1: and quit. The captain ends up getting dragged under the waves,
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Speaker 1: which is totally how he wanted to go because you
44:02
Speaker 1: can kind of see it through the panic in his eyes,
44:05
Speaker 1: and Trevor Slattery accidentally locks himself in a shark cage,
44:08
Speaker 1: and then we get the epic battle between shuan Chi
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Speaker 1: and the shark, and like it's really emotional. Both of
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Speaker 1: them show these amazing powers as they face off, the
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Speaker 1: shang Chi actually pulling the command of the ten rings
44:20
Speaker 1: at the weapon, not the organization from the shark. And
44:23
Speaker 1: then at the last moment, shan Chi shoves a big
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Speaker 1: oxygen tank in the shark's mouth and then hits it
44:28
Speaker 1: with the rings and the shark blows up, and then
44:30
Speaker 1: we see Shang Chi and Trevor Slattery slowly make their
44:33
Speaker 1: way to shore. They're holding onto a plank from the
44:35
Speaker 1: sunken boat and they kicked their way in, and shuan
44:39
Speaker 1: Chi shares with Trevor the secret that that Great White
44:42
Speaker 1: Shark was actually shung Chi's dad, Shoe Win Woo, the
44:46
Speaker 1: Ancient Warlord, and Trevor just kind of accepts it because
44:49
Speaker 1: you know, he's seen some strange stuff. The end it,
44:55
Speaker 1: I would watch that. It may almost no sense it was.
45:03
Speaker 1: It made perfect sense to me, and I loved it.
45:05
Speaker 1: I loved it, and I love that. I don't think
45:07
Speaker 1: you took a breath through the entire thing either. Yeah,
45:11
Speaker 1: I need to light down now. Yeah, okay, well you
45:13
Speaker 1: can do that. Well. I read my not totally dissimilar
45:17
Speaker 1: but not totally similar mash up hit me, and it's
45:21
Speaker 1: called Sean's gonna need a bigger boat because I gave
45:24
Speaker 1: up on the title, all right. Shang Xi defeated the
45:31
Speaker 1: Mandarin and the Dweller in Darkness, but he couldn't defeat
45:35
Speaker 1: the Man. You see, he was spending so much time
45:38
Speaker 1: superhero wing that he lost his day job as of
45:41
Speaker 1: l A after too many no shows. But he still
45:44
Speaker 1: needed to pay his bills and have a roof over
45:46
Speaker 1: his head in his downtime to maintain his alter ego Sean,
45:49
Speaker 1: So he started the job hunt, and it wasn't long
45:52
Speaker 1: before he got another valet job, but this time the
45:55
Speaker 1: job was parking boats at the local marina. At first,
45:59
Speaker 1: Sean enjoyed it, but after a while he got discontent
46:02
Speaker 1: with the much slower speed of boat Valet. For everyone
46:06
Speaker 1: shiny speedboat, there were like twenty pontoon boats. It was
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Speaker 1: a level of leisure Seawan never knew he didn't want
46:14
Speaker 1: even worse. While watching the boats on the water with
46:17
Speaker 1: nothing else to do, he would get seasick. One day,
46:21
Speaker 1: when he was the only person on shift and in sight,
46:24
Speaker 1: Sean decided to fight his seasickness in his boredom by
46:27
Speaker 1: doing what he termed in his head as deathmatch fish Olympics,
46:32
Speaker 1: which was really just shooting his ten rings off the
46:36
Speaker 1: boat at fish in the water to see what the
46:37
Speaker 1: biggest fish he could launch out out into the air was.
46:40
Speaker 1: So one day he was doing his deathmatch pish Olympics
46:45
Speaker 1: and he saw a giant shadow in the ocean under
46:47
Speaker 1: his boat. He shot his rings at it, thinking it
46:49
Speaker 1: was a school of fish, but no fish were blasted
46:52
Speaker 1: out of the water. He leaned over the end of
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Speaker 1: the boat, but the shadow was gone. Done he lea
47:00
Speaker 1: and over further to see if he could see where
47:02
Speaker 1: it went data data, and that's when there was a
47:05
Speaker 1: large jolt from the back of the boat as something
47:08
Speaker 1: large busted through the morning and started pushing the boat
47:10
Speaker 1: out to the sea. Sean nearly fell off the edge
47:14
Speaker 1: of the boat. Of course, being a superhero for real Z's,
47:18
Speaker 1: he was able to catch his footing and he ran
47:19
Speaker 1: to the back of the boat to see what was
47:21
Speaker 1: pushing it. From the fin poking out of the water,
47:23
Speaker 1: he could tell it was a shark. Shark, so he
47:25
Speaker 1: shot his ten rings at it, but it quickly disappeared
47:28
Speaker 1: and Sean found himself and the boat in the middle
47:31
Speaker 1: of the open water, far away from any help. Dang,
47:34
Speaker 1: that shark could swim fast, Sean thought to himself. Everything
47:37
Speaker 1: was silent and still. Sean tried to start the engine
47:41
Speaker 1: to bring the boat back in now that the shark
47:43
Speaker 1: was gone, but the ship wouldn't budge. When Sean went
47:46
Speaker 1: to check, the propeller had been ripped off. He peered
47:48
Speaker 1: all around the boat to see if the shark was gone,
47:51
Speaker 1: and it was nowhere in sight. So he decided he
47:54
Speaker 1: would shoot his ten rings into the ocean as a
47:56
Speaker 1: means of propelling himself back to the marina. However, as
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Speaker 1: he did so, the shark quickly swam up from the depths,
48:02
Speaker 1: and before Sean's brain could register the sharks giant growing shadow,
48:05
Speaker 1: it had swallowed all ten rings, and immediately after that
48:10
Speaker 1: half the boat. The remaining half of the boat started
48:12
Speaker 1: sinking and taking on water, and Sean tried to recall
48:16
Speaker 1: his rings, but it didn't seem to be working, and
48:18
Speaker 1: as the ship sank into the ocean, Sean could see
48:21
Speaker 1: the shark shadow coming up once again. But as Sean
48:24
Speaker 1: reared up in a desperate attempt to defend himself by
48:27
Speaker 1: some water martial arts, the sharks stopped. The rings apparently
48:32
Speaker 1: had changed the sharks alignment, and now this intelligent creature
48:35
Speaker 1: was no longer bloodthirsty bent on killing Sean, it was friendly.
48:39
Speaker 1: Sean was able to climb aboard the shark, and the shark,
48:41
Speaker 1: which he named Jaws, took him back to the marina.
48:45
Speaker 1: Once on shore, through superhero magic, Jaw spit up all
48:49
Speaker 1: of all but one of the rings, returning them to Sean,
48:53
Speaker 1: but still remaining a line to him as well by
48:55
Speaker 1: the one ring he kept. So that's how Shan she
48:59
Speaker 1: managed to take Jaws and gain him as a sidekick. However,
49:02
Speaker 1: that's also how he lost a boat and his marina job.
49:05
Speaker 1: When he returned home, he started on the job hunt again.
49:09
Speaker 1: A month later, Sean returned home from his adventures to
49:11
Speaker 1: find a letter from aquamand it read, dude, get your
49:15
Speaker 1: own deal. The fish are mine, Love Aquaman the end.
49:21
Speaker 1: So I was convinced that you were secretly sneaking in
49:26
Speaker 1: the origin story for jabber Jaw and that, let me
49:29
Speaker 1: tell you, that's where the idea came from. Like I
49:32
Speaker 1: was gonna jabber Jaw and I'm like, I can't. I
49:34
Speaker 1: can't add jabber Jaw to this mashup. People will have
49:37
Speaker 1: no idea. Uh jabber Jaw is a talking cartoon fish. Um, yeah,
49:43
Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, that was I was immediately thinking, like,
49:48
Speaker 1: if she turns this where Shaun, she and Jaws form
49:50
Speaker 1: a band, I'm gonna I'm so was really really close, Jonathan,
49:55
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you got there from me setting
49:58
Speaker 1: up setting up the steps. I was just I was
50:01
Speaker 1: I was about eight percent sure that that might be
50:04
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50:06
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50:08
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50:12
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50:17
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50:24
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