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A wild rabbit hole appears | HBR Talk 341 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Hannah's starting weird today. That's okay,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of expected technical difficulties today. Every time we
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  Speaker 1: have something like this to talk about, we have the
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  Speaker 1: technical difficulties. It's obviously just a coincidence. Guys. Nothing else, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do.
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  Speaker 2: With not getting us AID.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, totally no coincidor no no, no, uh,
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  Speaker 1: no conspiracy at all. And yeah, no need for your
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  Speaker 1: tinfoil hats or nothing. It's perfectly normal for for your
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  Speaker 1: laptop to need a forced update, like four or five
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  Speaker 1: hours after the last update, just when you speak the
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  Speaker 1: words let's get start started. Uh, that's that's usually the
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  Speaker 1: trigger for an update, right, So Nah, nothing weird about
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  Speaker 1: that at all at all.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's white pilling about how the USAID is being drained
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  Speaker 2: as the swamp that it is. But honestly, as long
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  Speaker 2: as you're allowing feminism to exist in the deepest cause
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  Speaker 2: of our education system, it's just going to keep re emerging.
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  Speaker 2: It's just going to keep coming back. This is where
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  Speaker 2: all this ship came from.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we hear all the time that feminism
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  Speaker 1: is cancer, right, it's black mold. You can't get rid
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  Speaker 1: of it. It is every time you think that you
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  Speaker 1: have completely eliminated it, you discovered that it was hiding
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in a little cracker crevice that you weren't expecting
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  Speaker 1: it to be in, and oh hey, now it's growing
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  Speaker 1: up the wall again. So we're going to look into
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  Speaker 1: some of those cracks and crevices tonight. This is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a fun show. So hell hello, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to HBr Talk three forty one. A wild rabbit Hole appears.
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  Speaker 1: This was kind of unexpected. Originally was going to go
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  Speaker 1: straight from talking about the Ukraine War to talking about
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  Speaker 1: US interference in Iran way back in the day, and
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  Speaker 1: moving forward from that to this point to demonstrate a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about how throwing away our young men's lives
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  Speaker 1: to interfere with other countries' politics actually just costs us
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  Speaker 1: more of our young men's lives. But before we get
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  Speaker 1: to that, we had two sets of news stories come up.
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  Speaker 1: There was another thing that I thought, oh gosh, we
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  Speaker 1: got to talk about this because there were a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of things that came out just in the last week
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  Speaker 1: that kind of demonstrated that the concept of a woman's
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  Speaker 1: tears is not as effective as a manipulation tool against
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  Speaker 1: the public anymore all of a sudden, and so it's
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  Speaker 1: going to kind of celebrate that a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: then all this stuff came out about the funding site
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  Speaker 1: that you can actually look at here USA spending dot
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  Speaker 1: gov and find out what our government is funding. And
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  Speaker 1: of course people are looking into USAID and all of
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  Speaker 1: the foreign aid and all the different things it's doing
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  Speaker 1: and everything. I started searching other things, right So, initially,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I tried searching women, and anything that mentions
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  Speaker 1: women came up. So if something just happens to mention
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  Speaker 1: that it's a woman owned business and it got a
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  Speaker 1: COVID loan that comes up, well that might have been DEI.
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  Speaker 1: It might not have been DEI. We can't, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I tried to compare by searching men, and anything
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  Speaker 1: that has the syllable men or the sound men in
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  Speaker 1: one of its syllables came up. So like anything that
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  Speaker 1: had mint me and t as a syllable or you know,
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. If and everything that had women has
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  Speaker 1: men in it, So that all came up. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's not a good way to search for men's issue stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Tried searching masculinities right back to feminism. So so we'll
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  Speaker 1: start with feminism because that seems to be where we
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  Speaker 1: where we are, and you can see, let's see if
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  Speaker 1: it shows. Yeah, my search keyword was just feminist. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't search anything fancy, didn't go through and look for
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  Speaker 1: like I did find feminist frequency. Feminist frequency got one
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  Speaker 1: of those COVID loans, but that wasn't really what I
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  Speaker 1: was looking for. So we'll get down to brass tacks
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  Speaker 1: here with all of that introduction, so you kind of
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  Speaker 1: know what my process was and how I got to
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  Speaker 1: this information because I know people are gonna ask there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be all about, oh, well, you
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  Speaker 1: know you you manipulated this somehow or whatever. No, this
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  Speaker 1: is just how it comes up when you search feminist
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  Speaker 1: and and this is just what's available, what information is
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  Speaker 1: available from that search, right, So that's where that's where
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  Speaker 1: we are as we're going today. So to introduce myself,
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Hannah Wallen here with the personification of perceptivity,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Stevenson and nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks. And tonight, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, we're putting the war dogs to bed because
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  Speaker 1: we've got to have a little talk about money, but
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  Speaker 1: not money for us because well, well well uh, unlike
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  Speaker 1: unlike other people, the other other movements, that the Men's
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  Speaker 1: Right Movement doesn't get big words of cash from the
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  Speaker 1: deep pockets of our rich uncles. We don't big ones
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  Speaker 1: of cash. We don't get We've.
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  Speaker 2: Been going for ten years, for eleven years, gone on
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  Speaker 2: twelve years without any of this aid. We don't need
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  Speaker 2: any of this aid.
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  Speaker 1: We are grateful for our patrons. None of them is
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  Speaker 1: named Uncle Sam, you know. We will say that, and
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  Speaker 1: we don't. We don't really need Uncle Sam, because we
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  Speaker 1: do have a lot of people who are so dedicated
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  Speaker 1: to this cause and want this information to get out
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  Speaker 1: there that they do help us out and so before we.
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  Speaker 2: Get in, and they don't need millions of dollars to
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  Speaker 2: do usaid to fucking do it now. We can. We
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  Speaker 2: can do it by ourselves. And we've done a bloody
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  Speaker 2: good job of doing it by ourselves for ten fucking.
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  Speaker 1: Years, largely and five increments from ordinary guys actually, which
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  Speaker 1: all of us are as well. Like I, I will
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  Speaker 1: be blunt. I went to college twice to find out
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  Speaker 1: two professions I didn't want to pursue. It's like like
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  Speaker 1: I've said, when I talk to young women about not
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  Speaker 1: making certain types of mistakes, it's because I made them
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  Speaker 1: and afterward realized how profoundly stupid they were, and I
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  Speaker 1: would prefer to see that not happen to other gals.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to see them realize that before they
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  Speaker 1: hit those decisions, and then take the other path that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't take, and not end up in that kind
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  Speaker 1: of debt, and not spend their wheels for so many
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  Speaker 1: years before they are prepared to go to the next
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  Speaker 1: stages they want in their lives. Right, So, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: totally nobody. All of us are pretty much nobody's in
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  Speaker 1: terms of where We've never worked for big media. We've
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  Speaker 1: never been recognized by the establishment for anything, and our
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  Speaker 1: political activism has always been bottom wrung. I've gone to protests,
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  Speaker 1: but not as anybody that people would here speak. This
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  Speaker 1: is the biggest I've ever been as a person, and
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  Speaker 1: it's never felt like a good fit for me. It's
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  Speaker 1: always been weird that anybody looks up to me, because
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  Speaker 1: it's not something that I made a goal in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I just started digging into information and realized that problems
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  Speaker 1: I was seeing happen around me were actually systemic and institutionalized,
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  Speaker 1: and they were affecting men all over the country. And
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  Speaker 1: the more I dug, the more I realized, oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: this is happening all over the world. This is happening
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  Speaker 1: to men in other countries, and in some countries it
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  Speaker 1: has hit even harder than it has in the West.
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  Speaker 1: In India, it hit like a dirty bomb. It's insane.
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  Speaker 1: In India, it's even worse than for for people who
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  Speaker 1: live in the US or the UK. What's happening to
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  Speaker 1: men in India is even worse than anything that we've
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  Speaker 1: seen happen here. And and it's it's there's no breaks
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  Speaker 1: on that train right now. It's just.
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  Speaker 2: This, by the way, is why every country in the
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  Speaker 2: West is facing the inflow of Indian men into their countries,
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  Speaker 2: either by the guys of H one B visas or
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  Speaker 2: just because you're currently just think, oh you're you're not
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  Speaker 2: from our country, then you must be awesome. And so
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  Speaker 2: they keep bringing over fucking millions of Indians, even though
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  Speaker 2: there's billions of Indians, and so this is a never
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  Speaker 2: ending source of just anyone who's not European. And that's
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  Speaker 2: it's difficult to get this across. But yes, we really
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  Speaker 2: are led by governments that are dare I say, aricophobic,
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  Speaker 2: like as long as as long as they're not from
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  Speaker 2: the country that we're supposed to be serving, they must
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  Speaker 2: be good people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say this, what we exported to
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  Speaker 1: India in the form of feminism is so volatile and
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  Speaker 1: so horrific that every so I understand this, right, every
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  Speaker 1: eight seconds, from what I've read, a man in India
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  Speaker 1: decides not worth living anymore. They're not just moving here
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  Speaker 1: to escape, They're dying to get away from it. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's so it's when I saw what was happening, I
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  Speaker 1: started to get involved with Alison and Karen and doing
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  Speaker 1: this part time. And this is where we are now.
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  Speaker 1: So for anybody that's come along that's new listening, we're
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  Speaker 1: not doing this because ha ha right waiting blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: We've also criticized a lot of things that Republicans have done.
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  Speaker 1: I got I got really really livid, most recently when
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  Speaker 1: the Violence Against Women Act came up, and rather than
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  Speaker 1: the argument being hey, this is gendered, and there are
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  Speaker 1: male victims, and there are people who are being accused,
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  Speaker 1: mostly male victims, of false allegations as well, people who
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  Speaker 1: are being accused falsely and then railroaded through the court
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  Speaker 1: system and it takes years for them to get that fixed,
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  Speaker 1: if ever, and they should be gender neutral. The argument
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  Speaker 1: was how much control is the United States government going
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  Speaker 1: to use this law to take in reservations? Like how
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  Speaker 1: much control are we going to impose on reservations because
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  Speaker 1: of this? And it's insane, you know, like the idea
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  Speaker 1: that the only problem with a law is that it's
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  Speaker 1: not being imposed enough in an area that we've promised
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  Speaker 1: is supposed to be autonomous, at least to a certain degree,
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  Speaker 1: and not. Gee, we're doing this unfairly to one sex
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  Speaker 1: and we're ignoring the needs of the opposite sex. If
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  Speaker 1: your party doesn't figure that out, there's something wrong. So
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: much as we love what Musk has been doing, and
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  Speaker 1: much as we love that the attacks on Trump have
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  Speaker 1: reduced the effectiveness of crocodile tears from women as a
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  Speaker 1: tool of manipulation, we're still waiting for the other shoe
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  Speaker 1: to drop. We're not holding our breath. We have hope
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  Speaker 1: that things will get better, but there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things that we'd like to see from the Republicans in
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  Speaker 1: power that we can't afford to hold our breath on.
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  Speaker 1: And one of them is addressing this kind of funding.
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  Speaker 1: There are other things, and we'll end up talking about
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  Speaker 1: those as well, but the difficult thing for me personally
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  Speaker 1: is trusting that the Republican Party is going to get it.
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  Speaker 1: That it's still abuse when a man is abused, when
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  Speaker 1: a woman is the abuser, and that it whatever methods
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  Speaker 1: the federal government decides to impose to address that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether they're gonna impose that on you know, a complete
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  Speaker 1: level of funding shelters and everything, or whether they're simply
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  Speaker 1: going to become an advisory clearinghouse. It should be gender neutral.
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  Speaker 1: It shouldn't be something that says, you know, hey, women
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  Speaker 1: and women deserve protection, but men can handle it right.
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  Speaker 1: Men get shot by their wives and their exes. Men
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  Speaker 1: get stabbed, men get poisoned, men get attacked by hired killers,
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  Speaker 1: and men get driven to suicide, and these things should
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  Speaker 1: not be happening without recourse. That men should should be
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  Speaker 1: able to go and get help to get out of
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  Speaker 1: those situations just as well as women should. And men
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  Speaker 1: get lied about, and when a woman uses lies to
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  Speaker 1: try to get custody of a child, or to try
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  Speaker 1: to get property in a divorce agreement, or just to
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  Speaker 1: try to get revenge, which happens as well. That that
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  Speaker 1: should not be effective either, Right, A guy should have
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  Speaker 1: due process rights just the same as a woman does.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we want to push for. So when
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  Speaker 1: I started hearing about this funding, of course, I had
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  Speaker 1: to look up feminism. We've been hearing for years from feminists.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we talk about the power of feminism name Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we have no power, no authority, you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: we're just a bunch of helpless women. Stop peaking on us.
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  Speaker 2: And we just need another billion dollars mm if you please.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, another billion dollars and another and another. But we're
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  Speaker 1: not getting any money from the government. We wish we
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  Speaker 1: were getting money from the government. Shutloads of money from
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  Speaker 1: the government. So and they're not all it's not all
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  Speaker 1: going to feminism under names of feminist organizations, like names
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  Speaker 1: that you would be like, oh, that's definitely a feminist
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  Speaker 1: organization like this organization here at the top, uh Pact Incorporated.
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  Speaker 1: So I opened up. I opened this up, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to shrink this down now that you've seen that
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  Speaker 1: in larger print because you can't see the amounts in
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  Speaker 1: the larger print, and I would have to actually increase
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  Speaker 1: the size of the tab. I don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So six million dollars right, the six million dollar recipient here,
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  Speaker 1: So what do they do? As soon as this loads
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  Speaker 1: up the description of the grant and this is this
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  Speaker 1: is the six million dollar grant. You can see it's
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  Speaker 1: a cooperative of agreement. Six million dollar grant to packed
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  Speaker 1: for what. And it's all in caps because this is
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  Speaker 1: the government. So I should be as smart ass and
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  Speaker 1: read this as if I'm yelling. But I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to do that because I had I had gastro intritis
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of days and my throat's not going
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  Speaker 1: to do that. Sorry, guys. Yeah, I'm over it now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so totally over it, but my throat still hurts
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  Speaker 1: from the effects. I'm beat. I bet the Transformation the
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  Speaker 1: transform Digital Spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles activity. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing. That's what it's called the Transform Digital
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  Speaker 1: Spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles activity because the government
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  Speaker 1: doesn't simplify anything, you know, is designed to implement a
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  Speaker 1: global approach, global exporting of feminism right to addressing technology
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  Speaker 1: facilitated gender based violence. Technology facilitated gender So you all
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  Speaker 1: want to talk to the people you know and find
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  Speaker 1: out if there's been any news stories about some dude
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  Speaker 1: beating his wife with the computer keyboard or something and like,
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  Speaker 1: because that's this is a technology facilitated Maybe he went
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  Speaker 1: after her with a power drill. Uh, but we know
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  Speaker 1: what it really is, right, What was the gamer Gate controversy?
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  Speaker 1: The consumer side of the gamer Gate controversy most frequently
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  Speaker 1: falsely accused of.
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  Speaker 3: Sectism and harassment and harassment again the women.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, So six million dollars being spent to to do
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  Speaker 1: this activity, which we'll look at a variety of subsets
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  Speaker 1: impacted by this form of violence saying mean things to
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  Speaker 1: women's on the internet. Guys, were we're spending six million
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  Speaker 1: dollars to stop women from bickering at each other? Because
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  Speaker 1: what did the research show? What did Pew find? Most
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  Speaker 1: of these so called harassment came from other women women.
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  Speaker 3: I'm laughing, but I really want to cry because it's
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  Speaker 3: just disgusting, and they just completely ignored that, right, they
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  Speaker 3: completely ignored that study. But hey, you know, now, I
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  Speaker 3: guess we understand why because they were being he need.
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  Speaker 1: More money than I will ever see in my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: You and me, sister, combined from to to to uh
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  Speaker 1: to to find out what to do about bitches be crazy?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So here here we go, including towards women in
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  Speaker 1: politics and public life. So women in politics and public life.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're talking a variety of subjects impacted by violence,
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  Speaker 1: including Hillary Clinton. It's violence to to criticize Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 1: It's violence to to criticize uh, occasional cortex. What's her name?
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  Speaker 1: Aoc and and uh yeah, that was probably considered violence, right,
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  Speaker 1: calling her occasional cortex. If I was more blunt and
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  Speaker 1: called a dumbass, they really would call it violence, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know? And I maybe maybe they're including revenge porn
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  Speaker 1: in this, although they really don't need to, because the
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  Speaker 1: states are all addressing that with laws intended to uh
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  Speaker 1: give them broader powers than just going after revenge porn.
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  Speaker 1: They're actually going after cartoon porn. That doesn't necessarily Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio has one like this that's that's on the it's
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  Speaker 1: not in the books, it's on the table, but it
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  Speaker 1: includes the full spectrum from if you have a picture
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  Speaker 1: that your ex gave you voluntarily and you post it online,
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  Speaker 1: uh to to all the way up to if you
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  Speaker 1: uh steal a picture from somebody's or you have stolen
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  Speaker 1: a picture from somebody somehow like their computer. H you
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  Speaker 1: went to their house, they had it in the house,
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  Speaker 1: and you stole it from from the house, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, all the way down to an image that
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  Speaker 1: has been drawn or painted, cartooned in some way or
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  Speaker 1: another that depicts something that if it was real people
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  Speaker 1: would be illegal. Wow. So yeah, there's they're really broad
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  Speaker 1: with that. And then they're not the only state. But
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  Speaker 1: that's that.
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  Speaker 3: Brings to mind the you know, the cartoon the cartoon
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  Speaker 3: nests that Drew Mohammed.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, this is where we're going with this now.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going after a lully, which I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: but you know, and I don't really I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: fan of that kind of thing. I don't really think
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  Speaker 1: much of it, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's.
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  Speaker 1: Pictures of somebody else. Yeah, if that's what you're really into,
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  Speaker 1: then I think you need help. Okay, as people, right,
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  Speaker 1: but if you're upset about the depiction in that image,
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  Speaker 1: then you should be so upset about what's happening in
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  Speaker 1: real life, you should be engaging in some kind of activism,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's just donating to organizations that do something
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  Speaker 1: to help actual trafficked and sexually abused children, like the
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  Speaker 1: real ones with flesh bodies, that have hearts and minds
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  Speaker 1: and feel pain and are traumatized by that shit, and
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  Speaker 1: not a picture that somebody drew, Because there are other
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  Speaker 1: ways to address that, like if your friend's doing that,
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  Speaker 1: you can say, hey, you know, maybe you might want
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  Speaker 1: to talk to somebody about that. You know, if they
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  Speaker 1: think it's edgy, then make fun of them for it.
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  Speaker 1: They won't think it's edgy anymore and they'll stop right.
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  Speaker 1: And if they think it's hot, then maybe talk to
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: their families like, hey, you know, this is kind of weird.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe your buddy need your son, your brother, your daughter,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: your sister or whatever needs some help. But in terms
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: of force police force, I would really rather see that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: reserve for helping actual individuals who have been victimized by
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: other people.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Like it's a huge problem in Britain and indeed most
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: of Europe where if you draw Mohammed you're going to
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: get killed, And indeed the government might dox you and
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: let everyone know where you live just because you burned
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a koran me. And but it needs to be pointed
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: out that if you draw a picture of a woman
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: that appears too sexy or whatever, I mean, it's not
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: as bad as drawing a picture of Mohammed, but it's
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it's getting there because you know, Muslims worship Mohammed and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Westerners worship women. It's an unfortunate state of affairs.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Well, they all worship women.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Indeed, were getting to the point where if you
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: draw a picture of a woman you could get arrested.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: But because a woman is a divine being, do you see,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you cannot no male hand can possibly draw a picture
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: of a woman that could that could possibly reflect the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: true divine essence of a woman. So it's a it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: an affront to the divinity of women. And that's the
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: same idea that that prevents us from drawing Mohammad, because
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Mohammed is perfect. Mohammed is the perfect man, and a
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: lot is the perfect garden. If you attempt to draw
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: either of them, then then you go to the gulag.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean like they agree with it, until they
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: don't write like Jessica Rabbit. I'm sure sparked controversy when
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: when she came about, but you don't really see people
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: pointing at Jessica Rabbit and saying.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Oooh, look at this. This needs to be canceled.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: You know, not at the time anyway.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: No, no, But you know, if if anything, it's the
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: it's the the existence of OnlyFans just proves that women
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: are perfectly fine with being objectified as long as they're
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: getting paid for it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And in terms of you know, all of
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: this stuff that this would address, in terms of like
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: revenge porn and stuff like that, Like I said, state
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: laws are starting to address that, and every state's probably
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: end up having them because it does give the states
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: some power, so the legislators are gonna jump on that.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: But this is way overly broad just impacted. How Like
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: for instance, early on in my career on Twitter, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: could call it that. I guess I've been doing this
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: since two thousand and nine on Twitter, although not all
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of that time was men's activism. Lot of it was
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: just me being a smartass. But along about twenty ten,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: when I started networking with other people online over due
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: process issues because of the seven years in Hell story,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: which if for anybody who's, like I said, never listened
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to us before, go to a voice formend dot com,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: look up my name Hannah Wallen in seven Years in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Hell and you'll find it. The description will mention the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: domestic violence industry or DV industry. And it's a hell
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of a story. It's a story of malicious prosecution and
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: vexatious litigation being used in a custody case. And it's insane.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: And I use that way a lot when describing these issues,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: because nothing about them makes sense if you have any
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: rationality to you at all. It only makes sense to feminists. Right.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: But early on in arguing these kinds of issues with
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: people on Twitter back in the day, I was told
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: by another woman that I should get raped so i'd
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: know what it was like. That was just a suggestion
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: she made, you know, out there along with you know,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you should get your hair done, you know, get your
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: nails done, Go get raped so you'll know what it's like.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing, right. Some women are
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: traumatized by hearing stuff like that. I'm just kind of yeah, whatever,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's not really having somebody tell me something like that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: is just it's the closest I've run into to boring
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: in an argument. It's not very creative in terms of
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: insults and stuff like that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: So no one's ever told me to go and get raped.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: It's not possible in my country.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: It doesn't occur to people as an insult that you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: should go and get raped by a woman, because there's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: apparently no such thing.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: And men are supposed to like that type of thing, right,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: even if you're a thirteen year old boy and you're
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: gross looking.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: However, a year old.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Teacher is coming on to you and making advances and
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: grooming you and then actually physically engaging in sexual activities,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: which I don't know why I am sugarcoating that, but
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: that's rape.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Yep, it's right. Yep. I had a teacher in my
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: school that did that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It's sanctioned rape.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Actually, teachers at my school that did that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Way even worse than rape.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: One did it to a female, and one did it
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to a male. Teacher that did it to a female
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: went to jail. Teacher that did it to a male
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: went to teach at another school. Yes, I didn't find
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: out about it until later. I don't know where she went,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: so there wasn't a whole lot I could do about it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: But when I found that out, I said, now wait
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a minute, because you know, one of my coaches did
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: this with an eighteen year old and went to Jagle
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and she did this with an underage boy and went
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: to teach at another school. So and yeah, if she
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: had become pregnant, he would have been on the hook
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: for child support. Mm hmm. But yeah, this idea of impact,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it just like blows my mind too, because that's a
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: situation where that's that's subjective. Right. Was I impacted when
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: somebody said you should get rape so you'd know what
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it was like? Not really, I liked I enjoyed making
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: fun of him for saying that. Actually I made fun
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: of them quite widely among a large set of people,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: because it was kind of hilarious that they thought that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: that was going to hit me, you know, like a
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: ton of bricks or something. Oh, this this thing that
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I'm terrified of, should happen to you. But you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you've been through something already, you already
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: know how bad it's going to be. You already know
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know kind of what to expect from it. And
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: as scary and unfun, you know, as awful as it
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: can be. Just like people who've been through a house fire, you're,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you're it's not as scary to have someone yell it
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: at you as it was to face it, So it
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't have that kind of impact. Oh I hope your
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: house burns down too late. You know that. That has
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: never happened to me, thank goodness. But uh, and and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: how I grew up and couldn't burn down anyway. It
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: was a brick, it could, it could burned, but not
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: it'd still be standing. But yeah, so this, this, this
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: strikes me as like, what do they mean by impact?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: And what do they mean by violence? Because obviously, if
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: we're talking shit like that, it's not violence. It's not
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: violent to say something like that to somebody, it's it's rude, right,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even fully call it violent. There were a
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: couple of guys from a Voice for Men when we
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: were all doxed and our addresses were published all over
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Twitter back in the day, and they refuse to take
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: them down for like three days before they finally did
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: anything about it. And it was actually because one of
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the guys they doxed his uh, his daughter's kindergarten, and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: uh so he he contacted police, and police decided that
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it was worth actually contacting Twitter was back when there
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: was contact information on the website with a customer service
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: number and a contact set of contact information for law enforcement.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: For a while, there wasn't that allowed them to get
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: in touch and say, hey, this is going on. We
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: need to know more information about this individual because this
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: individual is now threatening a five year old. But then
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they took it all down. Oh that's gone, we deleted it. Sorry,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: h Right, But in the meantime, there were a couple
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: of guys from a voice for men who were sent
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to their personal email addresses videos of al Qaeda beheading
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: prisoners with the title this should happen to you. That
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: didn't happen to any of the women. Nobody sent us
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: anything like that. But they did send that to the men.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: And you know, nobody nobody called that harassment. Right, It's
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: not not harassment to send beheading videos to a dude
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: and say this step to you. But apparently, and it
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't harassment to tell me that I should get raped
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: so I would know what it was like. Right. But
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: if a woman lies on the internet and you call
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: her out on it. Hey, that that's not true. Here's
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: what the truth is. And she just happens to be
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: running for political office. That that's harassment. You can't you
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: can't correct her. Sorry, Like that's what's gonna end up
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: happening with this kind of stuff. And this was six
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: million dollars gen xers these this is the bionic the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: bionic grant.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: It's worth putting out that all of this USA that
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: you pulling out of existence, Like that's all well and good,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: but as long as you continue to fund this feminist nonsense,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: and that's what's going on in every university, in every
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: college across not just the country, but across the West,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: it's just going to keep coming back. Like you think
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you're fixing this because because you're fixing the tendrils of
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: the problem, the leaves of the problem, but the seeds
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: of the problem are still there. Like every university in
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the West is still teaching everyone that men oppress women
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: everywhere and always have. And that's that's why the federal
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: government is sending all this money to these other places
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: because they think men oppress women everywhere and always have
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: and they want to fix this problem. And like I
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: just part of me wants to just shake Trump and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Elon by the lapels of their suit and just be like, yes,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: thank you, But like, this problem is going to keep
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: coming back until you solve the root of the problem.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And the root of the problem is UH men oppressed
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: women everywhere and always have Like I don't, I don't.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's an official government position, but
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: it seems to be an official an official cultural position.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I like, like, you think you're solving things in the
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Middle East with all this stuff, but as as long
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: as you're pandering women, women are going to keep saying,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: but we need to help those people who aren't like us,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: and that's that's we We talk about things like the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: left and the right, but what often comes from the
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: left and the right is actually just a result of
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: prioritizing women over men. Like UH. Men are able to
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: uh police each other's behavior. They do it without being prompted.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: They have this that they have this compulsion to police
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: one another's behavior. Women don't have this compulsion to police
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: one another's behavior. They have this compulsion two well, police
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: men's behavior.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: And there's one context in which women police each other's behavior,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and then they accuse men of doing it, and that
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: would be what women are. Feminists like to call slut shaming.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: They do it and then they blame men.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: But go ahead, no, yeah, that's that's a good takeoff
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: from where I was saying. But women are called sluts
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: because they fraternize with men too often, and men are
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: called in cells when they don't fraternize enough with women.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how to get this across to
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the likes of Trump and Elon. I mean, I'm not
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: going to complain because they're doing a pretty good job,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: but it's going to be a long time before they
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: can they can really get to grips with what we're
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: talking about, Like, we have a lot of problems with
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: the government funding anything that pertains to other peoples rather
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: than our own peoples. I call it micophobia, often for
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the sake of brevity. But yeah, they're dealing with the symptoms,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: and I praise them for dealing with the symptoms, but
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: if they don't deal with the causes, then the symptoms
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: are going to keep recurring.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yep, They'll just keep coming back. And the cause is
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a bit of a conundrum for our society because it's
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: been in place for so long that people think that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: it is a natural human instinct. It exists, did sense
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: about the thirteenth century. It was kind of invented by
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: thirteenth century French aristocrats, And that would be guyinocentrism, which
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: people often mislabel a focus on the family as gynocentrism.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: But the woman is not the whole family, the mother
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: is not the whole family. And for every woman who
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: got offended by hearing that, that's your narcissism, speaking, guynocentrism
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: is female narcissism. It is female narcissism writ large and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: spread wide when it becomes cultural. Guyinocentrism and cultural guynocentrism
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: is a dominant focus in our culture on women, the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: welfare of women in pretty much everything. So instead of
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: focusing on the importance of children's health, for instance, when
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: women decided that they wanted trans kids as purse puppies,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it was perfectly normal to start
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: cutting parts off of your child right all of a sudden,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: It was perfectly normal to buy your kid weird underwear
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to make them feel like the opposite sex and to
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: convince the child to have dysphoria. They were not already
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: experiencing kind of like reverse conversion therapy. When women don't
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: love their husbands anymore and they want out of the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: relationship and they decide they want to move on completely,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the court will actually sever the relationship between the father
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: and the children to a large degree by separating them
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: for most of the time. And all the ads is
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: his wallet. They don't care that this is detrimental to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the health and welfare of the children, to their future,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to their development, to everything about them, as long as
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the woman's happy. That is cultural gaynocentrism, right, Even men
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: children don't come first.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Men and women generally get along in nature. I mean
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: they have to, They've always had to. It's the government
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: is the one that's thrown the wrench into this relationship.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: It seems obvious to most of us, but it's just
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: it's still not obvious even to the magabase. It's we're
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: still fighting, dare I call it an uphill battle. But
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: all of these problems have stemmed from the from this
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: division between men and women, And well, I guess that's
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: just another iteration of communism.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Like it started. It started with this division between the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: rich and the poor. But then the moves, and shakers
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: realized that you could cause much more damage if you
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: if you create a rift between men and women, and
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: then you don't even need to bother with a rift
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: between the rich and the poor. If you're really, if
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: you really want to fuck a country up, start with
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the men and the women, and then you can control everyone.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: And that's how it's worked, that's really how it's worked
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: for the last hundred years, yep.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And it started by corrupting women, because you know, women
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: were supposed to watch out for men the way that
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: men watch out for women. And what ended up happening
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: was women decided men shouldn't be watching out for women,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and instead of watching out for men, they watched out
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: for themselves. But in the way they watched out for
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: themselves was looking out for number one. And that's how
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: we ended up where we are today, where it's more
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: politically incorrect to let women make absolute fools of themselves
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: and stumble and fall and have terrible lives because of it,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: and then pay them for making stupid choices than it
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: is to say, your life's going to be a lot
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: happier if you don't do this one dumb idea. Whenever
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: they come up to a set of choices that includes
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: that one really dumb idea that seems like it might
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun in the moment, you know,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: like screwing around with a bunch of differ guys or
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: going to college before you have figured out what you
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: want to do with your life. But yeah, so this
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: particular organization, this doesn't seem like a big thing, right,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I mean it does. It's six million dollars, but we
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: know that there are things that have gotten hundreds of
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars in funding, and and so on. There's
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of variety in what gets funded. But when
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you look at what they're planning and who this company is,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: what they do, it might change your mind in this
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit. So this activity will where is it?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: This this activity will pilot practical approaches to preventing, mitigating,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and responding to t f GBV. So remember that's technology
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: facilitate did well? Where is it here? Something something violence?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Gender based violence. Technology facilitated gender based violence in a
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: set of countries with diverse development contexts, including internet penetration.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Meaning they're going to run internet campaigns to do this,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: which could be as little as a meme campaign and
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: they're getting paid for it. Language, religion, regional and language
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: diversity will analyze, synthesize, and share learning from the pilot
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: activities with a broader community of practice working to address it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: So everything they pick up from the first campaign they're
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: going to use in future campaigns, and their goal will
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: ultimately be mitigation, prevention, and response, including towards women in
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: politics and blah blah blah, and gaining practical comparative knowledge
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: into what types of programming are effected to inform global
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: effort efforts to combat this problem. So they're essentially trying
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to set up a system where they use various approaches
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: including changing common language and basically pushing at the Overton window,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and policy changes to Internet campaigns to when they say
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: internet penetration, they may be talking about working with social
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: media to censor you know, the Internet, or censor people
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: with where the idea is you know, you can't say
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: that because it's harassment, You can't talk because you said
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: something wrong, and so on. Right, So who are these people?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: This is this is their page on gender equality for
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: more than five decades. This is a really entrenched organization
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: people for more than five decades PACTICE worked hand in
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: hand with communities around the world to address the root
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: causes of gender inequality, empower women and girls, and fostering inclusion.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: It's more than five decades and they still haven't fucking
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: figured it out.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: You still haven't gotten a handle on this. Jesus Christ.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: That's hilarious to me. I'm sorry.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we have have their spiel about uh
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: rights and opportunities and women in education. So one in
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: three women has experienced violence, nearly half of married women
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: lack decision making power, blah blah blah. One hundred and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: seventy eight countries still have legal barriers that prevent women's
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: full economic participation. So they've they're monitoring like the whole
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: world this way.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: And why are why are they using the se measuring
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: stick for all of the entire world like we we
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: are not. There are differences within each and every country
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: that make this just not really attainable or necessarily you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: it's not the same across the board. But they're using
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: the same measuring stick. I understand, But I don't.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Understand because and this will tell you right here packed expertise,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: and we'll just highlight this. I hope it's showing in
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the window properly. I'm not sure. I'm gonna look here.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: We're gonna raise it a little more. There we go.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Pacts expertise includes women's economic empowerment, health empowerment and quality, inequality,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: gender based violence, climate change mitigation and adaptation, god capacity strengthenings,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: CI civic engagement, conflict mitigation, natural resource management, labor rights
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: responsible and more. In other words, they're communists. So this
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: is a communist organization, which most feminist organizations are. It's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: a communist organization getting US government funding to export feminist
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: communism around the world. So there we go. That's that's
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: who they are. And they have had this have they
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: been around for this long? So I thought, all right,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I want to look a little more. This is the
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: let's see if this has packed incorporated. This this past
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: year got thirty million, thirty point seven million from six transactions.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I hate that it's doing this thing where that pop
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: down screen. A lot of websites do that, and it's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: really annoying. If you're a web designer out there watching this,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: please unders stand. I fucking hate you guys for doing this.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: You know, I love everything else about the Internet more
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: than I love this. Well, maybe not some things, right,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: the illegal things, but this, this drives me nuts, all right.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So in any case, this is pack Packed Incorporated. In
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the last twelve months got thirty million from six transactions
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: for a variety of things. And they've gotten money. This
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: goes back to twenty twelve, so they've gotten money repeatedly.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two they got a shit ton of money,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty four point nine million Jesus Christ.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty they got one hundred and fifteen point two.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Man, I don't even understand. How do you even spend
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: that much money in a year? I don't, I don't.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to know. I don't want to know
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: what they're doing with it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: And they didn't get money from usaid WHOA. Now I
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: will point out they do other things, all right. The
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: question is in doing them. Because here we have a
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: grant for eighty four million years, one for fifty eight
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: million years, one for thirty two million, my god, twenty
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: six twenty one everything, every one of these more than
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: ten million bucks.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Right, I want the receipts. I want the receipt What
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: does it take.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: To do something like that.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Listen, those are the contracts, right, nine contracts hundred nate grants,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: one direct payment and three other to this company. So
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I started looking, right, So the one contract this this
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: one that is see if this is the one I'm
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: thinking of. Yeah, I hate hate that it does this,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: all right, So this one is the one that ends
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: in five, it's not the one I'm thinking of. So
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: this one that ends in five has to do with orphans.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find or in four
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: has to do with orphans. You see if I can
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: find that one, because I looked at a bunch of
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: different ones. There it is. Okay, this is from u
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: usaid all right, and it's it sounds initially like, oh well,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: you know, at least they're doing something good here, and
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: to a degree it would be if it was what
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: it sounded like. So we scroll down. Maybe I passed it.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: There's a thing that says there's a description that it
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: should come up.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: It's a it's just a description right there.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: I miss it there. Yeah, it's short. Okay, Yeah, that's
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: why it makes it sound good because it's short. To
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: pro cure technical assistance to support the South African Department
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of Social welfare to increase services for orphans and vulnerable children.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Why the fuck? Yeah? And I can see a lot
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: of people going, oh, I can be so sympathetic to
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: African orphans, and therefore we should be funding this, which
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't agree that we should be funding it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I think that it's perpetuating the problem instead of solving it, right,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm sorry to help prevent children
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: from being orphaned in Africa.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: The thing that really just grinds my fucking gears is,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: you know, the same people like I agree we shouldn't
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: be funding wars, right, we shouldn't be doing that, right,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: But then but then we also fund things like the
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: victims supposed I would assume that these orphans would be
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: victims of, you know, whatever conflict is going on, and
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: this is fine, that's fine, that's fine.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Wait wait for it, Yeah, wait for it. So what
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: do they do for orphans? PACT recently helped build the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: capacity of South Africa's Department of Social Development to better
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: support orphans and vulnerable children right, including those affected by abuse, neglect,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: or exploitation, especially specifically specifically exploit exploitation, meaning yeah, there
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: are petals in Africa. Africa too, like the United States
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and rich countries, are not the only places where there
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: are petos well, right, but but fortunately for fortunately for
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: people in third world countries, they are more likely to
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: get the opportunity to get revenge. Just you know, parents,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: parents want revenge, and I can't blame them for that.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: But let's let's continue with this really quick. Specifically, our
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: efforts strengthened to department the department's response to HIV. Right,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: so here they mentioned abuse, neglect, and exploitation, right, so
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: they're they're strengthening the department's response to HIV. So I
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: can tell you a very easy way to prevent children
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: from getting HIV due to being molested. Can anybody guess
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: how the best possible way to stop children from contracting
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: HIV from getting molested would be? What would you do
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to prevent that? I think I think Mike has a
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: usual answer to that.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: He he's outside smoking. Yeah, but I'm I'm sorry, I'm
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: just so angry at the whole entire situation.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: You can, because.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Go after the people who are molesting these children, Yes, stop.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Them from getting molested. That would be the prevent the molestation,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: and then they will not get HIV from being molested.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: That that that would solve the problem right there.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's like the whole uh, circumcision prevents sexually
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: transmitted disease.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Interesting, you should bring that up.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Oh no, oh no, yeah yeah, so and and this
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: is this isn't the only place, but in.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: S Watini a packed lad um libba eloya m Billie project,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm pronouncing that right. I'm probably butchering now
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: out of it strengthen the capacity of local partners to
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: scale up OVC services for vulnerable adolescents and HIV. Presented
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: prevention services for AGYW through a social asset approach using
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: AG clubs and YW small sessions. The project reached fifty
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: thousand AGYW. Project partners also reached adolescent boys with HIV
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: and gender based violence prevention and education, links to HIV testing,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: and referrals for voluntary medical circumcision.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: My god, So that.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to this right from page where is
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: it the grant activity that we just looked at. There
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: we go eighty four million dollars for that program, right,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: eighty four million dollars to tell boys to get circumcised
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: so they won't get AIDS when they get molested by
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: adult women.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: For men, protect yourself by cutting slicing off a part
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: of your dick so that when you're inevitably just raped
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: by some bitch, that you don't get HIV. And that's
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: none of that is how that works, Like, none of that.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, this is it. It's just it's all a hard
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: pill to swallow.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: And I mean, especially when you account for the dollar
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: exchange rate, and so some of these places, like the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: eighty four million or eight whatever millions, translate into much
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: more money when you go into these other countries. And
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: again I need to understand, well, I mean, we know
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: what happens, right, Like most of this money goes towards
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: the people in the positions, right, most of it does
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: not trickle down to the people, the actual people who
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: they are intending for this thing to assist.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is only one sure fire way to prevent
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: getting infected with STIs, and that is a very conservative
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: approach to sexual relationships, right, And we know that promiscuity
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: increases the risk of the infections being spread around just
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: the same as if you really wanted to prevent flew
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: from spreading quickly around the country, you would encourage homeschooling.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Right. In fact, if you go back to
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: the first really big plague to hit the US was
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: when it became started to become a lot more widespread
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: for children to be going and sitting in classrooms together
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: every day. Not that it didn't exist before then. There
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: were schools before then, but there was a there was
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: a lot more during the early part of the twentieth century.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: There was a great deal of increase. And you know
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: when you see now that it's it's pretty much standard
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: for flu viruses and pneumonia and every kind of cold.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: There is ordinary coronavirus that's not COVID nineteen, and now,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: of course COVID nineteen is gonna do it too. Everything
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: goes around neurovirus RSV. That's all that shit goes around
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: every year, and it goes through the schools, and it
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: goes through the retail establishments because people lick their fingers
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and count their money, or they pick their nose and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: touch their their credit card, or they touch the merchandise.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: You know, people cough and sneeze on things. Suff some
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: of that stuff's airborne. And since we have people gathering
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: a lot, you have cold and flu going through. Right,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: we know that about human contact in every other element
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: of human life. They tell you to stay home from
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: work if you're sick, don't go to church if you're
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: stick keep your kid home from school if they're sick. Right,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: don't have sex with other people if you're sick. Seems
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: like a bridge too far. Don't sleep around like a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: three dollars hoe if you're sick. Why is that a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: bridge too far? Don't get an education today if you're sick.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: It's not a bridge too far. But don't sleep around
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: like a three dollars hoe today, Like that's that's that's
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: a bridge too far. Tell me again why you don't
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: believe folks in cultural gynocentrism as a thing, and why
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: you think it's natural, because, uh, I'm calling bullshit, right,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Instead we're gonna we're gonna tell young men
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: in foreign countries hand over that foreskin. We're totally not
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: gonna sell it to be used in makeup. And uh,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you know remedies for people going bald and shit, No,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's just it's sotal protect you from AIDS. Totally
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: protect you from AIDS. Research shows that you might be
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: more at risk of getting herpes from believing that you're
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: protected because you got circumcised. But you know that's besides
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: the point, right, Like, and this isn't the first program
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: like this they've done. They've been doing programs like this
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: in Africa for longer than any of my kids has
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: been alive. I'm a grandma, by the way, Just so
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was reading about this kind
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: of program in Africa before I got together with my husband. So, yeah,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: this is this is quite a issue. There's a bunch
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: of other things that they do with this money as well,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: So it's not all of that money going to circumcision,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: but that is part of the deal, and it is
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: a part of the that is part of the expenditures
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: that you are paying for as as part of the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: American public right. And there's there's more of these, right,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: There's the same Pact Sustainable Peace Activity. It says with
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: tec amount of twenty million for five years. This one
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: is from this is from USAID. And then we have
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: let's see, we looked at that one. I think this
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: is the one we relooked. Yeah, these might be the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: same one. I might open this twice, yep, I did
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I think, yep. But they've had, They had a bunch
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: of different things that were like that, there was there's
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: another issue with regard to these the kids that are
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: being trafficked, Like we've seen some evidence over the last
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: few months that the American government has not done an
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: excellent job of preventing child trafficking by its own agencies.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Of course not why right, Like we've seen some evidence
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: that children have been placed illegally in areas where they
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: should not be placed with people who didn't necessarily have
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: the right interest in them, and so on. They some
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: of them were considered to be misplaced during that time.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: We just I'm sorry, I don't know.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: I just it's not like losing your fucking glasses, right,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: just laid.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: The child down on the counter and walked away, and
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: when I went I couldn't remember where I said him.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I like, when we're funding non government organizations
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: doing this stuff and there's not you can't even ask questions,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Like it just came out today that USAID won't even
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: answer questions about what's being done with the money that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: they're shelling out.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, they answer questions. No, that would require
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: some level of accountability that they are not willing.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: To part with and no, I mean shit.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: And after the funding has been seized, they probably can't
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: even afford to answer their phones.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I really, uh, I really want to know,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: like what I understand they think that you have to
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: cut off part of your foreskin if you're a man
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and you want to avoid AIDS. What part what do
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: you got to cut off to avoid USAID? Just just
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: asking you know, what do you got to cut off
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: if you want to avoid USAID?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: Because the second S is silent shadoad of friends. Yes,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: just a few hundred million, yep, but we have.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: We have more, all right, that's just one. That's one thing.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: We just went through the first one.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: I hate them, I hate them, I hate the.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Now now we're going through the Department of Justice. So
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: this is not USAID. Okay. The Department of Justice funded
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: a company called Taller Salude, Incorporated. And they got six
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: and fifty six thousand, two hundred and seventy seven out
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: of too many This is so far does it say
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: where these companies are based out of this? One is
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: in the United States? This is yeah, so the TOE
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: funding for this is two million dollars. This is long.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: So here we go, Oh.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I'm sorry because I think.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are thinking that this is US
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: money that is going to foreign companies. However, it seems
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: like every time I'm looking that they seem to be
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: funding people right here in the US.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of it is US money going to US
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: companies to do things in foreign countries, but some of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: the US money going to US companies to do things
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: in the.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: US right that you know, And even if they are
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: doing things in foreign companies, are they ever going to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: be helped? Well, I mean, I guess now what we're
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: doing is holding them accountable, but you know, they were
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: operating for forever up until now as though you know,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: there's no one looking at this stuff. There's no one
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: paying attention and counting the means as to where all
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: this money is going. So I would love to We're.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Going to be pursuing this for a few weeks. I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: we can since a lot of what I want to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: talk about with regard to Iran as history, this is
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: something this takes precedence because it's happening right now. It's timely,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and it's it's stuff that these are receipts that we
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: have for things that we have been told. You guys,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: y'all are crazy for saying this shit is happening, when
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: in fact it's happening right there, right there, and it's
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: been happening. It's not this is just from last year, right.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: You saw the organization that we just talked about had
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: years behind it of government funding. And before they had
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: government funding through this system, they existed for what they say,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: over fifty years.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, right, five plus decades.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Five plus decades. That's how I could describe my life
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: as being barely over five decades. Right, They've they've been
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: around longer than we have.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to fight this invisible boogieman and only exists
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: because they say.
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  Speaker 4: That it's there, that that it's true.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: And yep. So. By the way, Meredith GG was five
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: dollars for HBr Talk three forty one and said, do
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: not be shocked at the organizations that will pop up
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: related to USA. It is estimated that the Clinton's got
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: about eighty million out of the organization. I'm not surprised.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: In fact, I wouldn't surprised. It's not more than that.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, not at all, and I'm sure.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: They so, especially considering the the Haiti.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, they have their own fricking foundation that they
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: were funneling money through, you know. And then also on
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: top of that, keep in mind that USAID is only
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: this is the first stone that they're overturning and uncovering
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: all of these worms. You know, imagine, just imagine what
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: they're gonna find out if they ever.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: Long it's gonna take to dig through this pile of garbage.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: We are looking at the glint on the edge of
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: the tish.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: And I just I'm hopeful that there's enough time. Four
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: years does not seem like enough for them to actually
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: uncover the full gamut of the actual wasteful government spending
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: that they're going to do. They're gonna need a long time, so,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: I'm just.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be optimistic that whoever comes into office
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: after Trump is gonna you know, maintain this and keep
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: keep the fire lit under these people's asses. Or maybe
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: maybe this is just a house of cards that comes
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: tumbling down, you know, when you just flick the one.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, it would be nice, but I just don't
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: see it. Happening that way.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: That would be too easy, right, It will be too
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: satisfying for that to happen.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: It's just these things are not going to happen overnight, right,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: This exposure is going to take a while for everything
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: to come to light. And even still after that, it's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: gonna take even longer than that for people to accept
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: that they've.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Been lied to for almost their whole lives.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: And not only is there's a lot of them that
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: are actually in government right now that are fighting this too.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, but not only being
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: lied to about what your government is doing, but also
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: the fact that their.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: Money is being taken from them to fund this shit.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's actually people don't realize everything that's
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: being funded, and there will be people that won't want
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: to know. There's there's that phenomenon where when somebody wants
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: to maintain a feel about being on a particular team politically,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: they will bury their head and they will hide from
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: information that contradicts their narrative, and you know, they'll then
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: they'll turn around and call you a liar for for
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: promoting that information, even though the reason that they don't
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: know about the information or that they think it hasn't
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: been proved is because they won't look at their receipts. Right.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: It's it's like the people who defend circumcision, even knowing that,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: you know, even if they're presented with the information that
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: this is harmful. It doesn't protect your son from getting
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: any kind of STI it does it. Oh it's not cleaner,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: it's just easier. Yeah, it does no good, only harm, right, Right,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: But they will still defend it tooth and nail, because
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: oh well, you know they don't. No man wants to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: be penis shamed, right they obviously you love your body, right,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: and so even if it happened to you, you will
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: defend it. You will defend the choices because oh well,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: I'm happy with my body. But that doesn't mean that
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: every man that's had it done is necessarily happy with
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: the results.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: There are men who understand that there's something that has
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: been taken from them that they can never ever ever
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: get back, and they're just completely upended by it, you know,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I've I have known people in my life who were
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: born without body parts. I had a friend at church
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: much older than me, so not a close friend, just
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: She was everybody's friend. She was a sweetheart, and she
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: was just nice to everybody. But she was missing one
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: hand from birth. There was no accident. It just was
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: the way she was born, and her wrist came to
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: a little ball at the end, and she almost had
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: there was like a It wasn't like a belly button there,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: but it was definitely a skinfold there from they had
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: They had done some surgery to for cosmetic purposes because
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: of the way that it looked when she was young.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: If I understand correctly, I could have that part wrong.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: But she was not injured. She was born that way
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: and she was just as able to do anything that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: the rest of us could do as we were like
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: she didn't. She didn't seem to even be handicapped by
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: not having one of her hands. She was happy, She
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: had a great time, and I bet you if you
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: asked her, did she resent her situation, she would say no.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: She loved her body just the same as everybody loves theirs.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: There was nothing about her body that made her unattractive.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: She was a very pretty girl, actually, and you know
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of the boys in the church paid her
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of attention. When there was a social activity.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: She was never alone. Ivan Bsgo says, solidimide baby, I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: don't think so. I think that was after Tholdima. But
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: it was similar to the way solidamide birth injuries would look,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: except that it was her wrist instead of being much
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: higher up. But I don't think that's what caused it.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: But in any case, the point is should we all
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: cut off our hand because she was comfortable with her
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: body the way it was, because that makes about as
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: much sense as cutting off your foreskin, your child's foreskin,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: because you're comfortable having had yours cut off like that.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: That's how I think about it. It's flesh that has
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: a purpose. It's not abnormal for it to be there,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: it's abnormal for it to be cut off. And just
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: because there's nothing wrong with you doesn't mean that there's
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with inflicting it on somebody else without giving
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: them the opportunity to refuse. So, but an in case,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get on with this. This is a different
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think this one was about circumcision. This was
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: about something else. Taller Salude Ts, Incorporated is a feminist,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: culturally specific nonprofit organization founded in nineteen seventy nine. So
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: quite a while ago, guys, christ In nineteen seventy nine,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I was seven, Yeah, it would have been seven. I
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: was one.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: I was a frgestrator, depending on what part of the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: year I mean. I was born in December, so nineteen
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: seventy nine was my first year on the planet.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: YEAP with a forty two year trajectory of violence prevention
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: and health promotion. Community Work TS launched Puerto Rico's first
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: community violence intervention program and holds a ten year track
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: record of implementing the island's only community violence intervention program
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Atquerdo Depas or the Peace Accords or Just Peace Accords.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Peace Accords uses highly trained violence interrupters and street outreach workers,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: public education campaigns such as those addressing structural racism, and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: here we have in a document about funding from the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: US government to an organization Toxic Masculinities YEP Behavioral and
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Workforce Services community mobilizations. So they end up getting involved
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: in people's jobs, They end up going out into the
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: community and engaging with people in public. They serve a
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: minimum of forty young males age fifteen to thirty residents
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: of the region every year. With violence interruption, conflict mediation,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: behavioral education, employment and community outreach activities. Uh and and
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: they're they're getting two million dollars for this.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: So wait a minute.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: They fight toxic masculinity with toxic masculinity.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: They use men to fight this idea of toxic masculinity.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean men and governmental dollary dues obviously,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: But you know, it's.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: It's just, it's just a bunch of fucking gobbling goog right,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: structural racism.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: What the fuck do you mean by that? What does
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: that mean?
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: And you ask people, you ask people, and they cannot
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: explain it. Oh well, it's just, you know, because the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: system says in blah blah blah, and it absolutely means nothing.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: It means nothing.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Racism is something that affects you the personal individ in
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: your own brain, right, because I don't give a damn
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: what somebody thinks about me and the color of my skin.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen recently that this black
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: chick who's up on CNN complaining because she's got four degrees,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: she's got doctorates and all this other shit, and and
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: you know, even at the White House, she holds all
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: these positions with all these fucking doctorates.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: And I was the least paid out of all of them. Well,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: That just means that either number one, all of those
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: papers that you put up on your wall mean absolutely
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: nothing more than the fucking paper that they're written on.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: Or two, you are not worth the money, Well.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: You're worth you.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: The money that you get is the money that you
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: are worth. Right, And if you feel like you're or
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: she just.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Really fucking sucks in it negotiating and.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thank you, right, but it's not, it's not.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: The onus never falls on the individual.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: It is always pushed off to the people around them, right, like,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: it's not.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: My fault, it's not, it's never their fault. It's never
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: their fault.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: Well, bitch, why did you spend so much time and
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: so much money trying to get all of these degrees?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: And now you're worried about how much money that you have,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: And a lot of it is really just a comparison
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: to their what they feel are their peers. Right, you
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: don't earn the same amount of money as someone who's
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: been at this company for maybe ten years or longer.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: And you just walk in the door, you think, because
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: you have all of these degrees that you are worth
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: all of this money?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: Well, absolutely not. What do you bring to the table?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: You know, it's never No.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: She's a woman, so remember oh, even though it's not long,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: not only by women. She is the table, right, right, right,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: all right, right, No, she's not just the table, she's
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the black table.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm a woman and I'm speaking, and so you
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: gotta listen to me as if anything that's coming out
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: of her mouth means anything, you know, and really, all
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: of these people, what they have to contribute is just
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: the fact that they're a black woman.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: Well what does that mean?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: Absolutely nothing, right, because you and I'm sorry I'm going
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: off on this check because that just really, really fucking
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: grinds my goddamn gears.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: She's complaining about the people that that hired her, right,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: but she's blaming it on Trump.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: She's oh, it's been in there for how many days?
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: Not even how many weeks, not even not even right,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: but it's yeah, it's always it's the Republican's fault. Oh
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: my god, I can't.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: I just can't. I can't manage.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: Well, she doesn't look unfed, Okay, she's gone on clothes,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: her hair is done, she looks like she they didn't
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: just pick her up off the fucking homeless cam. Okay,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, but fuck you, bitch, because there are
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: so many more men who are way more qualified to
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: be in the position that you are in right now.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: And she's still complaining. Yep, she's still complaining. So I
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: just I have zero sympathy z Row.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't blame you for that. So I just
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: want to remind everybody we we talked about this right
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: when we looked at this, when we initially looked at
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: the top here, Remember I pointed out it wasn't USAID,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: So the US United States Department of Justice paid for
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: this program, paid for this program to inundate Puerto Rico
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: with training about toxic masculinity, with the idea of toxic masculinity,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: to infect Puerto Rican men with fear of toxic masculinity.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: And then that's how they're going to prevent violence. They're
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: not going to prevent it by ending the actual conditions
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: that lead to neighborhood violence or the conditions that lead
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: to domestic violence. Nope, They're just going to blame toxic
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: masculinity and structural racism.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: Right right, No, No, You couldn't pay people to clean
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: up Puerto Rico, right remember Trump called it a shithold.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: We can't pay people to actually make the place a
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: livable place to be, right, like, you couldn't, You couldn't
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: fix those conditions. But oh my god, somehow you're going
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: to spend millions of dollars to tap into the hearts
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: and minds of all of these.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: Men who can barely fucking make it right.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: They are struggling as well, But oh no, no, no,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: what they need to do post haaste is.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: Stop and worry about the whamen. Yep, that's gonna fix
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: the contra. That's gonna fix the whole thing.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Telling them that they need to talk about their feelings
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: is totally gonna get them to.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: Do mm hmmm.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, have you ever have have they ever
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: met a Latino man? They are some of the most
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: stoic people I have ever met in my life. They
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: are my cheesemo all the fucking way right.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: They are no, not necessarily all absolutely not.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: And that's why that is why they don't understand why
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: they lost the Latino vote, because that is the true
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: nature of the Latino men population, not just the men
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: you know, you can't soft you can't sissify them, you
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: can't shame them into being less masculine. That's never gonna
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: fly with with Latinos, true Latino, no matter what country
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: they come from.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Well, and if it does, it's not necessarily healthy, right, No,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: And it's artificial. This is something something else that I've
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: tried to explain to people more than once. By the way,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: I've tried to explain this to people about stoicism, it's
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: not it's not a a it's not a cut and
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: dried thing, right, It's not black and white. Being stoic
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: is bad and not being stoic is good. That's not
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: the way that it is. For instance, So let's say
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: you're in a house fire. Like I brought up house
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: fire before. But let's say you're in a house fire.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: And let's say it's a pretty big house. So you
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: have rooms on either side of you, you have rooms
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: in front of you, and you have rooms behind you,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: and you're in a hallway surrounded by all those rooms,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: and there is smoke everywhere. You can hear the fire.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: It is incredibly hot. You can't see because it's dark.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Fires not actually bright when you're inside down underneath everything.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: You can't breeze. You're on the ground, crawling, and you
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: are fucking terrified that you're gonna die right now, and
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: you're about to have a panic attack. You can feel
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: yourself on the edge of hyperventilating, all right. The smartest
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: thing you can do in that moment is if you
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: have any stoicism within you, you drag that up to
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: the surface and you use it to breathe as best
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: you can with your shirt over your mouth, and to
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: crawl in the direction of your floor plan that you've
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: made to get out of your building and to get
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: out of that fire. Because if you panic, you lose
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: precious seconds and you die, you asphyxiate, you don't have
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: any time at all to panic. I had to learn
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: that when I was a toddler, not because of a
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: house fire, but because of an asthma attack. You have
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: to be calm when you're having an asthma attack. If
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: you are not calm, if you have a panic attack
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: on top of an asthma attack, you can't get suffocate
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: yourself to death. And my first serious near death asthma
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: attack happened when I was just under two years old,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: and my community did not have its own trauma center.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: There was no place in my area for my parents
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: to take me. They had to drive from we lived
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: outside of Wapakanetta to way to drive to Limo, Ohio.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: And it was normally like at twenty to thirty minute drive.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: And you know, my parents had to stay calm, right
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: because if they panicked and it cost precious seconds, I
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: would have suffocated. Yeah, and they had to keep me calm. Well.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: They packed me into the car and my dad drove
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: ambulance speed. He had been an ambulance driver when he
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: was younger down count youre a ninety one on the
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: way up to on the way up to Lima, and
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: he had to not panic when the cop pulled up
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: behind him, and he had to not panic and pull
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: over when the cop pulled up beside him, and the
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: cop had to not give into his anger at my
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: dad for not pulling over when he looked over into
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: the car to see what was going on. For that
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: cop to notice the little blue faced kid in the
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: passenger seat hanging over her mom's shoulder, and he signaled
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: to my dad. He pointed at him and then he
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: did this arcing signal with his finger forward and the
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: rest of the ride I don't remember much because of
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: how little I was because I was oxygen deprived. What
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: I do remember was going out to the car. I
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: remember seeing the cops lights coming up behind because they
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: were weird. Oxygen deprivation distorts your vision after a while.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: And I remember going through going through town because before
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: we would go under a light, there would be this
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: woo whoo, and then we would go under the light.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: And we went through Lima at seventy miles an hour
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: in thirty five mile an hour zones. Because he's top
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: didn't get mad at being his having his authority bucked,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: he pulled around drove us through. I remember this guy
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: reaching in and pulling Mom and me out of the
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: vehicle together. That was the other part that I really
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: remember strongly, because I wasn't able to breathe, and all
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, I was being squeezed for
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: a second, but he had to squeeze on me because
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Mom was pregnant. So after that I passed out. But
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: that I would have been and if they'd have been
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: any later, I would have been dead. And if I'd
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: have panicked, I had have been dead. If my parents
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: had panicked. I had have been dead. If the cop
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: had gotten angry instead of stoically stomaching the fact that
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: he had been defied and evaluating the situation instead and
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: doing the right thing, I'd have been dead. And so
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: stoicism could be beneficial, right, It's not beneficial when you
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: decide you're not going to grieve for your dying parents
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: and you try to hold it all in and you
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: don't do anything. But the other end of stoicism, that's
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: that's really dealt with wrong by feminism, is the how
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: right I I'm halfway in between the way a lot
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: of guys I know grieve in a way a lot
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: of gals I know grief Like I've talked about what
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: a great person my dad was and what a great
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: person my mom was, and what a great couple my
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: parents were, and part of that's part of my grieving process,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: although I use it in an educational form here. And
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: I cried a lot because I'm female and that's what
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: we do, right.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: But fortunately, like sometimes just uncontrollably and involuntarily.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: But that's not why everybody shows grief or pain. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: And just because you know, I said this on Twitter
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: the other day women love their there's this book about
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: love languages where your love language might be telling somebody
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: how great they are all the time, or it might
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: be giving them gifts all the time, or it might
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: be doing things for them, you know, brandon their their
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: shoes when they need them, or giving them making a
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: particularly great meal and stuff like that, taking them out
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: on dates. You know, there's a bunch of different things, right,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: and that's just one emotion, that's just love, right, Yeah.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: People have those kind of differences in expression for every emotion.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: I laugh when I'm shocked. Sometimes I laugh when I'm angry.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: It's not a pretty laugh, it's not cute, right, but
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a laugh. It's not mistakable as anything else.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: And sometimes I laugh when I'm hurt, and it's a
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: pathetic sounding laugh, all right.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 3: I cry sometimes when I'm angry because I'm just so
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: frustrated at my inability, right, Yeah, Like it's my inability
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: to fix or change the situation immediately that just pushes
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: me to the point of.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: Of I don't know what, but it's like.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: Nobody else can understand, you know, at least that's what's
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: going through my mind, right, Like this is a situation
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: that has to be fixed now, and I can't do it,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to ask for help. I don't
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: want to ask other people to do it. I just
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: wanted to be done. So you know, I totally relate well.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you know you're gonna have more than one
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: emotion going on at the same time. Like, yeah, when
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: I was grieving, I was angry, and I for the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: longest time, I kept telling people I can't get out
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: of the anger stage of grief. I was wrong. I
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: wasn't not getting out of the anger stage of grief.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: I was grieving and I was going through those stages
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: of grief. And I was also angry because of what
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: happened to my parents, because in my opinion, my parents
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: were murdered. And I've talked about all that. But when
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: I'm angry and I want to process it, and I'm
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: going to do that, right, I write because if I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: yell at people, it's really bad, like and I've combined it.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's it's it's not that I've never combined these things.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: For instance, if you want to read how I write
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: when I am angry, read my my article on honey
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Badger brigade dot com titled fuck you Amy Schumer, where
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: at one point I I was angry that she exploited
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: rape victims as a weapon against a falsely accused man.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: But that and I I I At one point I
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: wrote in it, uh something like I called her a
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: doe eye, lying, hypocritical, skunk, fucking cunt. I was, like
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: I said, I was mad, but uh yeah, So we
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: process things in different ways. Men process grief differently than
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: women do. Some men have some ways that overlap, Like
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: if you take the ven diagram of men processing grief
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: and women processing grief, there's going to be some overlap, right,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: But where there's not, they're still processing it. They're just
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: not speaking your grief language. And that's okay. But feminists
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: don't let it be okay. They talk about it like
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: it's not happening. And the man needs to be doing
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: something he's not doing and it's wrong, and therefore he's
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: got the toxic masculinity and he must be cured of
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: the toxic masculinity and he has to get the talking
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: stick and tell everybody how he feels, and it's going
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: to make it all better and not going to drag
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: him through all that time of having to relive feelings
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: in front of other people that maybe he doesn't want
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: to share. Then maybe they're not your business. You know.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: So this thing with the toxic masculinity export, it's not
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: as simple as these men are naturally or culturally very macho,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: and it's an infliction. To take it away from it's
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: the toxic masculinity narrative itself is flawed in a lot
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: of ways, and that's one of them. And the way
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: it talks about stoicism and every single concept involved in
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: how feminist label aspects of human character. Toxic masculinity is
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: affected by that kind of black and white thinking, either
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: in the form of this is always toxic or this
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: is always masculine. Yeah, so you know it's here we
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: are talking about this Department of Justice funding two million
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: dollars to inflict that on just Puerto Rico. We could
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: be talking about, you know, other organizations like this.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, ship give me two million dollars and I
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: guarantee you'll have the same fucking outcome.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, we go back to that packed. Remember they also
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: focused on gender based violence and their area is all
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: of Africa mm hm, and they're all of Africa. They're feminist,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: so a feminist initiative.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: I will Africa.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: In my mind, I'm like imagining like Anita Sarkisian going
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: into like the bush people and and try to tell
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: them about the ways of our Lord and Jesus, Yeah,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: whomen Christ and how.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: Again like this ship just doesn't track. It doesn't fucking track.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: Is never You cannot You cannot go into a country
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: that has completely different societal norms, right and expect that
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: your US American centric view of the world is going to,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: you know, somehow take hold. Oh oh, I'm sorry, white women,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: I just I see the error of my ways. It's
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: ever gonna work. The only people that it will work
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: on are the officials, the governmental officials who are receiving
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: checks from this US AID. Those are the only people
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: who are going to entertain this argument at all. You
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: will never be able to go boots on the ground
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: and get the average citizen of any African country or
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: any other you know, whatever, name a country, right, You're
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: never going to be able to get them to go
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: on board with with your stupid, fucking feminist, fucking.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: Agenda. It's just not going to happen.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: And in the I will say this in the places
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: that you will, it's already something that they accept.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: Yep. So what are we So what are we really doing?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: We are just ladling cash over these countries, you know,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: in in an attempt to what may maybe make them
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: think that we're an okay place, you know what I mean,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe they might like the America.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: Well, it's to get in there before they start evolving
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: culturally on that particular topic and get the Duluth model
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: in under the radar before they figure out that actually
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: the more rational approach to domestic violence is to take
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: that taboo against men hitting women and make it go
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: both ways, right, Because in most cultures there's at least
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a taboo against men hitting women
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: or against violence in general against women. And it's because
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: men who are dedicated to a woman will protect her,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: and so violence against women ultimately ends up being violence
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: between men.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: So most cultures they don't want that violence between men
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: in the community. So they don't want a man to
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: be violent toward a woman, and most cultures have some
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: sort of legal response or community response to it as well.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Even even cultures where there's some degree of violence accepted,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: there's not just this unlimited way you can do whatever
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: you want. And and so every culture has an opening
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: in its in its kinnocentrism, you know, for these people
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: to come in with the American Deluth model that teaches
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: the idea that violence is a culture wide, patriarchal attack
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: on women to dominate and oppress women as a population,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: and that the individual man is just responsible for promoting
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: that that violence and that domination and oppression. Like that's
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: that's basically what they're exporting, and they're paying millions to
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: export that. So we looked at two today, we're gonna
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: look at briefly a third one. And this one is
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: not funding the initiative. This initiative just got one of
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: those COVID nineteen loads. So you can see there it
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: says includes COVID ninth COVID nineteen spending. I believe this
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: was entirely comprised of COVID nine nineteen spending.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: This was a so.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: So wait a minute, So now since Fauci has gotten
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: his pardon, does that mean that we no longer have
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: to abide by any of those fucking mandates?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 7: I hope?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: Can that be Listen, I'm not no that I'm gonna
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: take that back.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: There there is nothing, nothing that they could do to
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: Fauci that would make me okay with what he did
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: to this entire globe. There is never gonna be anything
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: that will make me okay with that. So yeah, no,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that, and you can get
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 3: this is our last one to.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: The night before I go on, I'm gonna read. We
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: got some more chats, so Master Rogue gave us a
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: two dollars super chat and a two dollars rumble rant,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: and in both of them he said Hannah Lauren. And
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: we also got a huggy emoji and a sparkling heart emoji,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: which was really cute, and then somebody gave it a
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: thumbs up, so very nice. Yeah, so there we go.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: I have I can actually like those, so I clicked
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: like on that one. So now we think we have
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: we have reciprocated, but we have heard you left for cigarette.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: By the way, you can give me an answer right
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: off the bat. I'm sure we were talking about that organization.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Uh let me let me refer or return to this
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: was packed uh dot or yeah, Packed Incorporated that was
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: trying to prevent the spread of AIDS among children, in
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Africa who were sexually exploited and their solution with circumcision.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: And I said, I could think of a much simpler
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: means of preventing children being sexually exploited in in Africa
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: from getting AIDS. And I'm sure that you have a
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: two word solution for that, the same solution that exists
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: for any STI that children might get from being molested.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: How do you prevent children from from getting STIs from
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: being molested?
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: Don't molest children?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: I mean you have advocated the same thing to prevent
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: the molesters from having access over and over again. I
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: figured say it again. I'm always used to hearing wood
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: chipper from you.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, the wood fee first.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: Please, I didn't invent the concept of nor did I
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: invent the concept of putting child molesters into into the
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: wood chipper. But I'm happy to be an advocate for it, yep,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: just as long as it's only being done with people
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: who uh happily admit to their crimes, Like I don't
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: want to create create a situation where innocent men will
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: be fed into the wood chipper, because that's exactly the
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: first thing that will happen where you, unfortunately live in
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: a world where a man who is simply accused of
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: a thing will be fed into the word chipper, whereas
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: a man who uh stabs three girls to death and
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: also stabs another eight girls to almost death will not
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: be fed into the woodchipper. I just want to I
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: just want to change this world, so the actual Riddy
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: Cabana is indeed fed into the wood chipper.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: You just want to use the wood chapper.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: There you go, Well I will, I will point out
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: one I do.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get fed into the wood chipper myself,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: just because just because I criticized the UK government, we
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: are you will.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 4: Have to take that up with the crown.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: Sorry, we are talking about an area where a significant
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: number of their perpetrators aren't even men, because this is boys,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: and depending on which nation we're talking about, because there
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: are a broad variety of nations in Africa and a
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: broad variety of cultural differences, and so there are some
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: areas where there are child grooms. There are some areas
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: where there are child brides and child grooms. Actually yeah,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: but since we're talking about boys specifically, child grooms are
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: what we're mentioning, and they're marrying women and there are
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: areas where boys are just exploited by women. There are
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: also areas where women don't have the option, and so
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: boys are safer from women. And if there is abuse
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: taking place, then it would be done by men. But
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: there are plenty of places in Africa where the perpetrators
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: are not men, and so it would be heinous to
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: just accuse men in that instance. You would be letting
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: perpetrators go, You would be condemning the innocent, and you
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: would be doing absolutely nothing for the victims.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: But so I have on good authority that arranged marriages
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: only affect women. Yeah, because arranged marriages are necessarily lesbian, right,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: they only push women together. That there's no man involved
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: in an arranged marriage, and if there is, he must
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: be completely on board with it.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Well, here's another here's another hot take that I heard
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: from a feminist and a long time ago that I
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: just will never forget. And she was on and on
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: about child brides this and child brides that, and how
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: horrible it was for the child bride to be in
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: that situation, and it was you know, yes, of course
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: there are also child grooms and they go through all
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Oh, that's nothing compared to what the
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: bride is going through in that situation. Imagine you're expecting
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: to marry a big, strong man and your groom turns
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: out to be a ten year old boy. You can't
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: do anything with him. And I was like, you have
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. You cannot just have flipped
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: like that that quickly and not be like that. Lack
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: of self awareness is so profound. How do you breathe?
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: She didn't see what was wrong with what she said.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: If an adult man marries a ten year old little girl,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: she's the victim because she just married a big, scary man.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: But if a grown woman marries a ten year old
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  Speaker 1: little boy, she's the victim because she just got a
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  Speaker 1: wimpy little boy instead of her night in shining armmor
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  Speaker 1: like that was her. It's like, could you maybe consider
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  Speaker 1: that it's a bad thing for children to be forced
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  Speaker 1: to marry, regardless of what sex they are, and no
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  Speaker 1: matter what sex they are, the adult in the situation
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  Speaker 1: is not the victim. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But here in the West, we don't force boys to
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  Speaker 2: marry women. We just put them in school where they
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  Speaker 2: get raped by women.
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  Speaker 1: And then we make them pay child support. Indeed, but
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: they don't have to get married, which which is good
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  Speaker 1: because if they do get married, they're gonna get divorced.
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  Speaker 1: But but yeah, so to this thing that we were
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: going to look at last, this direct payment from the
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: COVID nineteen spending too form focused Operation Redefine Masculinity in
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: NYC DBA Form Focused Operation Redefined Masculinity in I see,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: so it's an incorporated Just how.
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  Speaker 2: Much money were we paying in to the destruction of
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  Speaker 2: the male gender?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's all.
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  Speaker 2: I say, Well, you're doing this in my country that
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  Speaker 2: it's still completely unknown, our hidden taxpayer money. We're we're
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: pumping into the complete dissolution of human gender. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, think about this and this is something that that
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 3: caught my attention. So the BBC is crippled under this
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: defunding of the us AID, but they still collect a
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  Speaker 3: license fee from every single one of y'all.
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  Speaker 4: Just how much are they in debt and where is
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: their money going to just going to die from within
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: the next ten years god willing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So these guys got fifteen thousand dollars to keep
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: their operation going during the COVID crisis. In twenty twenty four,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: the four year old COVID crisis. Yeah, and it's a
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: direct payment for specified use activities to be performed. Continue
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: business deliverables economic relief to small business impacted by COVID nineteen.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: Expected outcomes provide economic relief to businesses that are currently
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  Speaker 1: experiencing a temporary loss of revenue. Intended beneficiaries small business.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: There we go sub recipient activities in a so they
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: didn't pay it out to anybody. They kept it. That's
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: what that means. Right, So I'm like, who the hell
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: are these guys who got this money? And I looked
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: them up and this is them and what is a deliverable?
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: A deliverable, I guess means what they do in their neighborhood.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: So initially it looked good. And initially it was like, well,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: you know, these guys are just men mentoring younger men
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: in their neighborhood, right, But then I remember the title,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: so I start I start going through because when I
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: looked at their initial about page, it didn't explain a
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: lot exactly, and they used the word accountability and it
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: sounded really good.
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  Speaker 7: And then I get down here and I see street harassment,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 7: Like yeah, so my brother's calling things sounds great, right?
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  Speaker 1: Mentorship Program dedicated to improving self awareness and accountability in
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: young men. Social emotional learning suddenly kills it because social
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: emotional learning is code in almost everything for DEI or
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: social justice and then and otherwise it would be a
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: great way to to you know, like big brothers, to
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: to mentory young men. Now, that's an immature way to
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  Speaker 1: handle this. Let's do it this way and go from
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: duking it out with each other to what can we
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: do to solve this problem without having to duke it out?
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: What can can what compromise can we make? What respect
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: can we form for each other? What boundaries can we
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: hammer out without using an actual hammer? And that that's
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: just that right, you get over here and we have
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: form NYCS Stop Street Harassment Campaign, a powerful initiative driven
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: by the founders unique writing and poetic ability through the
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: art of high kus. What This campaign aims to combat
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: street harassment in New York City by spreading awardness and
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: fostering change. What this is why I wanted to do this? Wait? What?
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: Hold on?
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  Speaker 8: So I'm sorry because this whole thing started out with me,
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 8: with me remembering like the Jordan Neely right, harassment, harassment,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, harassment all the street.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: What but now you're talking about fucking what poetry? Excuse me?
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: Yes? And how are they going to use this? I thought, okay,
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: I know that they're not training young men to go
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: up to women and use my roof formatt instead of saying,
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, baby, do those legs go all the
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: way up? Because that's not gonna They're gonna get plowed
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: over by somebody who's in a hurry. Oh my, they're mental,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: mentally ill and homeless or something, right.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll get stabbed by the old guy who has
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 3: a real fucking mental problem because he doesn't give a
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: fuck about what women feel, you know what I mean,
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 3: or or get.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: Stabbed by the guy who actually wants to know if
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: those legs go all the way up.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: I'm laughing, but I can't do anything else laugh because
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 3: it's just so fucking idiotic.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: So I thought, how how are these guys doing this initiative?
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: What exactly are they doing that is is worth fifteen
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars that they need a budget that big? Because
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, we wait a minute, I saw the word stickers.
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  Speaker 4: Enough I'm just gonna fucking lose my shit.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: The fore men, y see stop street Harassment Campaign is
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: a powerful initiative driven by the founder's unique writing and
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: poetic ability. We just read that on the other page, right, guys.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: Through the art of hikups, this campaign aims to combat
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  Speaker 1: street harassment in New York City by spreading awareness and
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: fostering change. Remember how feminists always say that we don't
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: do anything because all we do is spread awareness and
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: foster according to them, and that's not ring. So that's
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: what these guys are doing, spreading awareness and fostering change.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: These haikus are transformed into stickers, magnets, and store decals,
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  Speaker 1: serving as community reminders to all, specially men, that street
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  Speaker 1: harassment is not illegal in New York City, but also
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: menacing to women and dangerous to our youth. It challenges
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: the antiquated practice of street harassment and calls for its end.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: By blending art and activism, form NYC encourages the community
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  Speaker 1: to stand together against street harassment. Making the streets of
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn Brooklyn. They're going to put haikus all over Brooklyn
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: to tell men not to ask women if their legs
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: go all the way up Brooklyn.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: Good fucking luck. Number one, number one, and number two.
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  Speaker 9: This whole thing is just is all of this is
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 9: is like we're gonna make guns illegal as if criminals
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 9: don't fucking break the law.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: It totally detracts from the other stuff they're doing. And
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: they have other stuff like form space, a form safe space, right,
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: they have this form saved space that's supposed to serve
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: as a mental health check in men who who are
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: having problems can come in and say, hey, I'm in crisis.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: They have this my brother's calling thing that they're trying
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: to but men are never going to do that did
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: with the socialisms, but this haiku thing, fucking hi cou
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: thing to Just so, I have a request for the listeners.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 4: Ir, hair is so fair? So fair is your hair
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 4: that I just remember?
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: Oh god, it's it's five seven five, that's right. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So so I want you to sexually harass us.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 4: Him.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: Please do comment section. Remember I have super long legs, right,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: and Lauren has one of the sexiest voices I have
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: ever heard. I have.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, your skin, I must be in.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: And since you don't, you don't have to write. If
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: you're really creative, you can sexually harass the men. But
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: it doesn't count because this is feminist sexual harassment, right,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: and they only pay attention if it happens to women, right,
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: it's only for us. Okay, So, but but you could
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: totally totally sexually harassed Mike for how Tally is and
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: his genius. You know he's outlets. I'm confirmed. But but
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: there we go. So, yeah, you could. You can sexually
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: harass all of us, just make sure you do it
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  Speaker 1: in haiku form. So that's my request. Awesome, I just
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: want to see I know we are going to get
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  Speaker 1: a thousand comments, but I just want to see a
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  Speaker 1: thousand haiku.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, damn, they're they're gonna forget, like the flour map.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 3: Right, it's five seven five right, five syllables, seven syllables,
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 3: five syllables.
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  Speaker 4: I forgetting.
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  Speaker 1: We've already got one balloon, says Hiku. Hannah Banana super
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: long legs. Does she have peel down those leggings? I
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: love it? It's awesome. So we do have before we
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: take off, we have a couple of super more super chows.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: So let's see. We stopped with the USA wins. So
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Richard Pierre gave us five dollars and said, gave me
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: a link and said, when you get back to the
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: voting rights discussion. This link is the solar system to scale,
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: with the moon being one pixel in size, the map
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: of voting rates could be overlaid with this. It's that long, yeah,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: I mean it's like eight hundred years. Uh, just this
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: as you see just where you are in the historical discussion.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre gave us another five dollars and said, waiting
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: to see if the village people will make the doze
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: song to the tune of Ymca, or perhaps Duck can
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: do it, ask him in haiku form. The day is
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: and then we have married and c us five dollars
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: and said HBr talked three forty one. Think about what
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: is going to be found out when a different cabinet
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: members conduct their investigations per executive order and start publishing
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: those reports. Oh my god, I'm gonna I'm gonna change
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: my name at that point to holy fuck. Yeah, that's it.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: Richard Bier gave us five dollars and said, imagine if
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: the money allotted for these programs was actually used with
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: proper oversight and accountability to minimize the administrative overhead to
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 1: actually installing toilets in India and other undeveloped countries instead
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: of being squandered in administrative acts. Not that I'm a
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 1: locating for government spending, but rather that there would be
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: tangible results from the money.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: Yet, Number one, it wouldn't take as much money as
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 3: we're actually sending them now.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we wouldn't be paying an organization to stay active
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: plastering haikus all over Brooklyn. Uh about street harassment. Look
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: at my street harassment. Haiku.
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  Speaker 3: My god.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: With that, thanks you guys for going over this weird
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: shit with me.
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  Speaker 4: We have the reasons.
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  Speaker 1: We will be back ye next Thursday, Thursday with more.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: These are the fucking receipts. Okay, we will be back
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: with fucking receipts.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: Thank god.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody who works in the background and make
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: HBr talk happen. Thanks to listeners, Thanks to my two
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: co hosts, and good night everybody.