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Escaping the Corporate Lie and Mastering Authentic Speaking · The One Small Change Podcast

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  Welcome to the One Small Change. I am so glad that you decided
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  to spend some time with me again this week, and I am thrilled
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  to be with you on this journey of exploration and
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  transformation. I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring
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  almost 30 years of entrepreneurial experience and
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  passion for discovering growth through the power of
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  seemingly one Small change. And this week,
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  and you know how I. You know how I love pronouncing people's names, right?
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  This week, we are talking with the amazing
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  Sivan Hache. So because
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  so many of us get this wrong, he is graciously letting us call
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  him Sly. All my, all my friends call me Sly. Just, that's,
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  that's my nickname. So. So
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  I am really glad that you're here. And we were joking that, that we
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  both had crazy days, but that just means that our adrenaline is going
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  and we've got lots to share. So tell my audience, my
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  audience about yourself and what was the change that
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  changed your life and your business.
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  So happy. Thanks for having me here, Yvonne. This is amazing.
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  I love the name One Small Change. Because I was
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  thinking, what's one, you know, for everybody? You listening? There's
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  many different things. What's one little thing? And I was thinking about this.
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  There's one question I asked myself when one day
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  that changed everything. One little question
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  changed me from a drugged, out of my mind,
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  corporate atheist.
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  I asked myself one question and I turned into a clean.
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  No drugs, no alcohol, spiritual entrepreneur.
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  Boom. In one second, I went from one day,
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  drugs, alcohol, bad habits, cigarettes
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  every day and junk food to the next day, no
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  drugs, no alcohol, clean, clean diet, waking up
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  at six in the morning, Kundalini, breathing exercises, and having spiritual
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  revelation. And when I asked myself that small question,
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  a lightning bolt hit me on top of the head like a flash
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  of lightning turning. Bam. And at that time, I did not
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  believe in God. So it's not like I was praying or anything. It's
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  just a simple question. I don't know if you've ever been in that situation.
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  You listening to this, where you look around
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  and you say, wait a minute. I've done
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  everything they told me I should do to be happy. I
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  mean, I've checked all the boxes. Okay, that ain't it.
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  Okay. I've done everything. I've been
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  everywhere. I've achieved every goal I set out to do.
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  I'm winning. This is it. Yet I was
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  so miserable, I had to do drugs in the parking
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  lot on the way out of that job just to
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  wash it away from my soul. One night
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  after supper, I Asked myself, man, I just kind of looked
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  up a little bit and I thought,
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  this can't be it. There has to be more
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  to life than this. Yvonne that
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  single thought, the realization of how big of
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  a lie I've been, I had been lied to.
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  And the automations of robots climbing the corporate
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  ladder, whatever that was,
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  snapped me out of it bad in one
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  second. And it went from this to then,
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  long story short, creating a new public speaking system
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  that helps people get overstayed fright and we've created multiple six figure days
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  from the stage. Well, first of all, I just want to tell you I am
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  so glad you had that thought because otherwise you wouldn't have been here. But
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  secondly, I think that happens to more of us than you think. It may
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  not be those exact words, but I think there's something,
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  you get to a certain point in your life and you go, there's got
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  to be more. Wait a minute, I would, I was
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  meant to be more. And you know what my specific question was?
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  My specific question was, what do I want to be
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  remembered for when I die?
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  Because I felt like I wasn't living that life. And
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  when I thought about that and I, you know, and now I've kind of refined
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  that question to what's the energy that you want to be remembered
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  for? Right. And that's what helped me to lose almost
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  £200. What's
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  the energy you want to be remembered for? What's the classic quote? People forget what
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  you say, how you said it, whatever, but they won't forget how you made them
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  feel, right? Yeah. So energetic
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  was one of my words. I wanted, I had no energy at that point.
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  So tell us, tell us once, once you had that
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  lightning bolt, how did that change everything
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  else? Well,
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  I mean it's a cliche, but it
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  literally changed everything from the diet
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  to the sense of self, to what I think I
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  am internally, to what I think I can do, to the behavior,
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  to how I generate income, to, to what I do in life, to who
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  I associate with, to how I dream, to how I think,
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  to how I write, literally everything.
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  So it
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  led to us creating a company
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  in the personal development market,
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  meaning all the gurus, the healers, the
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  shamans, the crystal ball reading ladies, the chakra people, the
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  motivational guys, the filter water filter people want to help people
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  and change the world. They would come to us and we had a, at the
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  time, a huge marketing list for the time. And
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  I was, since I had a marketing degree, I was writing all the marketing
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  copy and all the, the messaging for these People. And it
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  turns out when people are not trained in marketing, they always say the same thing.
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  So people don't know what's unique about them. The unique selling
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  proposition, how to position it to the marketplace, how to match
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  the, their message to the market in a way that's congruent with them. So I
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  would write their messaging for them. And this
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  had to come up with messaging on the spot for everybody at
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  once is the messaging algorithm that I've developed for the
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  speaking system. And the first time we had a six figure day was back
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  then. This was 2005. Six ish. And the first time
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  someone. Because usually we would take what they would say I
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  would make into a compelling message and send it by email. One of the,
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  one of these people said, I want to make an event and
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  I will sell an offer from the stage. So we worked on that together
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  and this was the first time I realized, oh, wait a minute,
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  if you put people in a room and you make notice
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  with your face, a number of people in the room
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  will buy your offer and you can make more than a hundred thousand dollars in
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  a day. Sign me up for that.
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  This was at the time, so this was a revelation to me where
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  otherwise you would have to break your back
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  over time. Like we've had people, we've, we've
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  had a guy, this must have been like two years ago now. An
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  engineer. Think of all the work it
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  takes to become an engineer and then get
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  the engineering degree, get a job,
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  drive in traffic all day, go to a job, stressful,
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  bad eating, stress all day, come back in
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  traffic week after month after month for a year. This
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  totality of his income. He made more money from this.
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  Made more money from a 20 minute talk, Yvonne, than his whole
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  previous year as an engineer. And he did it twice
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  in three months from 20 minute talks. I, I did
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  not know this before. Somebody had. I don't know, I don't know if. Did you
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  learn that in school? They didn't teach me that. So the,
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  it became clear to me that the skill
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  of putting words, stories, messaging and
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  angles and aligning it with the messenger so it fits with the market
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  in live room and in live environments was a thing that
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  could create financial freedom for the people who could do it. But I
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  think the thing that, I think the thing that is so important
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  is I want to kind of go back to,
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  you know, we were lied to. Right? In the
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  sense, in the sense that, you know, you, you get educated,
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  you work a job, you know, you check all the boxes and stuff.
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  That's not the kind of world that we're in anymore. The other
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  thing that I think is so important is
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  that in so many jobs you don't. You
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  typically, you do what you can do, which
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  are, you know, because once you, once you kind of make the decision that you're
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  going to be an engineer and you've invested that time,
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  you keep going down that path, it's very rare
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  that you see somebody go, I'm an engineer and
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  tomorrow I'm going to become a ballet dancer or something. I mean,
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  do you know, it's kind of like you're kind of caught in that, that path.
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  Sunk cost. Yeah. And, and you don't
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  get to be who you are. You don't get to do the things that really
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  light up your soul. Especially not in a 9 to
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  5. At least I never did. Well,
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  you said it well, Ivan. That world does not exist anymore.
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  Things are changing so fast now and changing
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  faster. I took a note because you made me think of an article. I read
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  this years back. Now it's even worse. Years
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  ago there was an article here in the newspaper that said, okay,
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  employers were complaining because here they are
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  advertising a job for a six figure job,
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  a six figure cushy corporate job.
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  And one of the, the requirements is a degree in
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  such and such thing, a four year degree. The problem
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  was four years ago there were no degrees
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  in such and such thing. The problem.
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  So engineer, I know an engineer. You may think about this,
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  a guy who graduated in 1975 as an engineer.
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  So by the time he graduated, what he had learned was out of
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  date. That's in 1975.
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  My uncle, I believe is the last generation of
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  people that could go to school, get a
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  job, go up the ladder in one place, one institution,
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  retirement and live a good life is 88 or
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  89 right now. That's it. Anybody younger than
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  this, there's no more working at one place, one job.
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  It's not, it's not, it's not A thing doesn't exist. And you know what?
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  One of the things that I say to people is even if you're not an
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  entrepreneur, your value
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  is you. And you need to get as much, you know,
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  whatever that corporation is offering that's going to improve,
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  you know what you can do that's portable, that you can take
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  with you, you need to do. Because you're not going to be at that job
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  for 30 years. You know, you're going to have. And, and you're,
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  and I think that's the other thing about,
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  it's really important. I Mean, one of the things that. One of the things that
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  changed me incredibly was a course
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  that I took on positive thinking. And, and, and
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  the part that really hit me hard was
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  the I. And this is distilling it down to, like, idiot
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  language. Not, not the great stuff that was taught in the course.
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  But we tend to be stuck in a rut, you know, because of our habits
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  and our beliefs and stuff like that. And so you go to, you, you
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  default to the same thing all the time. And
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  he said, if you can stop yourself, when
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  you're getting ready to make a decision, you come on to something new and say
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  to yourself, am I being judgmental or am
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  I being curious?
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  And I was like, oh, my God,
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  so many times I was being judgmental. Like, we're not supposed to do it that
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  way. Why would they? You know, when I
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  shifted that to can I be curious first,
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  wow, it just changed everything. I mean, we
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  had a, we had somebody who came into a meeting, and all of us were
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  standing there like, this guy is an idiot. What? Why is he even here?
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  Right? And afterwards, I thought about that, and I was
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  like, okay, why do I think he's an idiot? It was
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  like, because he's talking about things that have nothing to do with what we're trying
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  to do. Well, wait, we haven't figured out what we're
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  trying to do, so no wonder he doesn't know what we need.
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  And when I finally backed into it, I was like, you know what? When
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  we figure out what we're doing, he's got the expertise to help us.
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  So. Yeah, and I think, you know, that applies to. Let's go back to
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  speaking, because speaking has been an amazing thing for me.
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  You know, I, I've always been a speaker. You know,
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  just, you know, I, I, I tend, you know, I spoke when I was in
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  high school. I was an exchange student, and so people asked me to come speak
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  about that. I had a blog talk radio show
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  for three years, but I never really thought about speaking
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  to groups of people or two people. So luckily,
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  you know, in a bad way. Luckily, the COVID came. So now you can speak
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  on Zoom all the time. You don't have to travel all these places. So I
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  get to speak in some amazing places. But I think
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  what people don't understand. Is.
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  When you're talking, people don't want a robot.
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  They want somebody who's authentic, that they can
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  relate to. And I find that the more I speak,
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  the more unscripted the goofier I get,
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  and the more fun I'm Having, you know, and so you
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  should start speaking everywhere. You know, Kimberly Crow says, if somebody
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  hands you a mic, take it, say yes.
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  Yes, absolutely. So. So you had an interesting thing you
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  had to overcome in terms of speaking.
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  Well, it couldn't make sounds with my face. Chronic
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  stutterer. Like no sound
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  would come out of. I was a regular kid, normal kid. And
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  then I went to school one day, something traumatic happened there
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  and I came back that day and I stuttered for 20 some years.
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  Terrible. So I cannot even imagine
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  doing what I'm doing if had I not overcame
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  that. But it gives me a superpower because I've helped people from 18
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  to 81 years old get overstage fright. So when somebody comes in and
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  says, oh, you don't understand, I'm 57 and I've been
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  shy my whole life, I don't think I can speak in public. I got you,
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  boo. I helped the German engineer who was 81 years old.
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  So you think you're setting your ways at 57 as a creative
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  or somebody close to their feelings and I help an 81 year
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  old German engineer. I got you, boo. So
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  the ability to not be impressed by
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  the people you're helping is problems.
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  So back up. If you're impressed by your client's
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  problems, you can't help them. So since I started off
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  way worse than anybody that comes to me for help
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  as a chronic stutterer and I've helped
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  people worse than their situation and I coach people that
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  are further along what they're even dreaming of becoming. Most people
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  don't want to be international keynote speakers or TV hours. Most people want to just
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  speak with confidence when they have to.
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  So since I went, I was worse off than
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  you probably are. If you're listening to this and you're not a chronic stutterer and
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  I've helped people worse off than your situation. If you're younger than 81 and
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  not absolutely terrified,
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  this gives me a power of not being afraid.
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  So as your, the legs are shaking and you're freaking out and I'm coaching
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  you, the fear comes in and bounces off.
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  And when you see that this reaction is possible, it
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  does something inside of you to go, oh, you just snap out of it. Of
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  course we have the techniques and the tools. Last time I counted it was under
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  140. Some tools on helping with that. But
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  the main thing is to keep the main thing,
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  the main thing. So when it comes to speaking,
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  the goal is not to speak to impress. The goal is not to
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  fish for compliments. The goal is not to say people say, oh my God, how
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  brilliant you are, are beginner.
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  Communicators speak to
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  feel understood, speak to say the way they want to say it. And
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  they work on diction and pronunciation and they count their ums and their
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  oz and all that nonsense, which is good to remove, by
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  the way, but it's not the main focus. Great. Communicators
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  communicate their understanding. So when you get in front of
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  an audience and you're not self conscious and you're focused on them and you speak
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  about their view, their pain, their problems. Well, like
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  Yvonne was saying, they added, somebody come in and he's talking about something else
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  that they want. That effect you never want on stage. So you
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  cannot be in tune with what people want,
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  need. And like, if you're not
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  focused on them, and if you're focused on you, you can't be focused on them.
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  So that's kind of step one. Well, you know, I used to,
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  I used to say to people, if you put yourself on a pedestal,
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  you're going to get knocked off, you know,
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  because, you know, there's an evidence. And I had some really
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  humbling experience when I was doing workforce
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  training. I would, you know, with the, all the higher ups would, you know,
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  decide what we were going to train on. And then you would show up today
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  and I'd say, what do you expect? Why are you here? And they would go,
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  because I have to be, which
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  is a rough audience. And I would say, okay, this is what
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  we're gonna, this is what we're training on. And I'm gonna make sure that you
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  can use this in your personal life as well as, since you have to be
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  here, let's make sure you get something that you can actually
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  use, you know, and, and so that's
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  connecting with your audience, you know, what do they, what do they need?
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  Right. That happened to me again when I went to, I was speaking
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  at some kind of, you know, community college, and
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  I was like, why are you here? And almost everybody raised their hand and
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  said, this is the only thing that wasn't filled.
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  And I, and I said, well, where, where did you want to go? And they
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  said, we wanted to go delegation. I said, how about this? I know a little
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  bit about delegation. How about if I give you 10 minutes on delegation and then
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  I get into my talk? And they were like, yeah, that's great, you know,
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  but let's do this before we run out of time. Let's talk about
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  your free gift. Some actions that entrepreneurs can take. And
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  I particularly think that speaking is One of the
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  best ways to get visibility. So any tips that you can
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  give to help people overcome their hesitancy to
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  speak would be great.
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  That's a lot. I asked you a lot. So
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  tips to overcome the hesitancy depends on who, who
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  I'm speaking to and who you are. Because if you're speaking to someone
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  who is socially awkward, even one on one,
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  somebody who's terrified of their own reflection in the mirror, someone who
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  cannot even look one person in the eye, shake their hand and
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  be frank and honest, that person,
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  the way you help that person communicate with confidence on
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  stage is so drastically different than the person who
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  is confident one on one. No problem there. One on one. I got
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  you, boo. We're good to go. Straightforward,
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  honest, ideas flowing, know
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  how to calibrate, know what's going on, know how to land their points. But
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  when they walk on stage, they shrink into a smaller version
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  of themselves and then they deliver a shitty speech. Well, that's
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  so different. Oven I guess
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  I'm asking is some big picture questions. So for
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  instance, for me, I think
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  that people need to understand that when they speak
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  it's not going to land for everybody. And that's okay.
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  But you know, what you want to do is be the most
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  authentic person that you can be when
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  you're making that delivery that, that, that you are ahead of some people
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  and you are behind some people right in the information
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  and what you're going to give. So there's. Okay, so in that, so that
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  that somebody's in the audience crying. Yvonne, People
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  Fantastic. Okay,
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  we've covered so much material. Is there one or two
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  other things that you want to say to entrepreneurs about speaking to build their business?
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  So we. We talked about you. Did you have another freebie besides the one you
• 24:01
  just gave us? I got more to that I know what to do with.
• 24:05
  All right, so if they go and look in the free trial, there'll be things
• 24:08
  you can try out and stuff, but definitely the. The. The. The leadership
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  one. So
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  for those again, who are hesitating about speaking,
• 24:19
  is one other thought that you want to give them. That
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  it's the invisible layer of the business world.
• 24:29
  Think of any leader you
• 24:33
  admire. Think of anyone. You watch their videos, dead
• 24:37
  or alive. Find me a leader that has not
• 24:41
  master speaking. It's.
• 24:45
  It's not an option. It's par for the course. If you're terrified,
• 24:50
  work with us or somebody else. Work with who you want.
• 24:53
  Swallow a pill. Not drugs, but swallow the pill of the. Of the fear and
• 24:57
  the shame and the embarrassment. Have somebody that can help you through
• 25:00
  this with a proven track record of getting people on stage and having
• 25:04
  them succeed. It's not even funny.
• 25:08
  Now more than ever. What I'm saying was true 20 years ago.
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  Now with the age of AI, AI can and will do everything
• 25:16
  for you, except it will never be able to put your pants on in the
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  moment, the morning. And walk on stage with confidence. Sorry. It will
• 25:24
  broadcast you in the multiverse. It will film you in a hologram and
• 25:27
  transfer what you say. It's gonna
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  put automatic captions, it's gonna put a filter so your skin
• 25:34
  looks younger, whatever, but it won't be able to put your pants
• 25:38
  on and walk on stage with confidence. Sorry.
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  Ah, Take my breath away. All right, so
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  I'm gonna take your breath away. When was the last time you did something new
• 25:49
  for the first time?
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  Something new for the first. For the. For the. For the first time.
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  Yeah. Give it your best.
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  Something new for the first time. Last time. I don't even know.
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  It could be I didn't. I did a new kind of meditation today.
• 26:13
  Well, that's good. After dinner. Yeah. A new type of meditation with the
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  spine here. You got a new revelation around here in the spine.
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  Ta da. So I say that because
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  I want people to keep being curious and trying new things and speaking
• 26:28
  is definitely. If you haven't tried it, you definitely need to
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  start small. Do a LinkedIn Live. Do you can control
• 26:36
  your own stage, which is a wonderful thing. Start that way
• 26:40
  before you get on somebody else's stage. So I have to give the
• 26:44
  commercial and that is I hope
• 26:47
  everybody will subscribe, share and engage on
• 26:51
  about this podcast on social media. And the reason I do it
• 26:55
  is I want to give back to my community. I want to
• 26:58
  expand people that they have contact with. I want to grow
• 27:02
  a vibrant community and fuel your quest for growth and impact.
• 27:06
  So I hope that you'll continue to join me for the one small
• 27:10
  change and that we embark on this journey together. And
• 27:13
  one of the things that I want you to do is I want you to
• 27:16
  grow your vision into a bold vision and take advantage of
• 27:19
  innovative possibilities. So sly. Do you have any
• 27:23
  last words of wisdom for us? Words
• 27:27
  of wisdom is the same
• 27:30
  for everyone. Is the only way
• 27:34
  to escape the cycle of suffering we all seem to be stuck in
• 27:38
  is for each and every one of us to learn to deal with our emotions
• 27:40
  and our states of mind without hurting
• 27:44
  any sentient beings, including ourselves.
• 27:50
  That's true. And I would say to you,
• 27:54
  you know, one of the things that people don't tell you is that
• 27:59
  change is uncomfortable. It can be simple, but it's
• 28:03
  not always easy. And it requires resilience
• 28:07
  and courage and a willingness to step out of your comfort zone.
• 28:11
  And I want you to stay curious so that you can keep on
• 28:14
  growing. And I hope that you will join me again for the one small
• 28:18
  change as we embark on this journey of a bold vision
• 28:22
  and innovative possibilities. And until the next
• 28:26
  time, I want you to stay really curious.