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The CLP's Gerard Maley calls on Labor’s candidate for Fannie Bay to address conflict of interest allegations · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Now it is just two days out from the by
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  Speaker 1: election for Fanny Bay and the battle lines certainly have
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  Speaker 1: been drawn. The COLP opposition is calling on the Labor
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  Speaker 1: candidate for Fanny Bay, Brent Potter, to immediately come clean
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  Speaker 1: on the serious allegations they say of conflict of interest
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  Speaker 1: regarding his work history and securing of a ten million
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  Speaker 1: dollars of taxpayer funds that were apparently raised or this
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  Speaker 1: issue was apparently raised yesterday during a debate on the ABC.
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  Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line or joining me in
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  Speaker 1: the studio, I should actually say, it's Jered Mayley, the
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  Speaker 1: Deputy Opposition leader.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: Jared, Good morning, Katie, Good morning listeners.
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  Speaker 2: Now Jered, what exactly is the concern.
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  Speaker 4: Here, Well, what the concern is here is this is
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  Speaker 4: in relation to an alleged conflict of interest. We know
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  Speaker 4: it has been reported in the media that the Labor
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  Speaker 4: candidate was working closely with the CEO of the AAI,
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  Speaker 4: the amphibious aircraft company that now has moved to the
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  Speaker 4: territory and that's got a ten million dollar investment from
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  Speaker 4: the charity government. And Miss Potter said yesterday at the
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  Speaker 4: debate that he facilitated that ten million dollars the grant process,
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  Speaker 4: and he also said previously it's not what you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's who you know in the territory. So what we
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  Speaker 4: want to know is how is Natasha Files managing this
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  Speaker 4: potential conflict of interest because it's a very serious matter,
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  Speaker 4: because that's the Public Service Code of Conduct says this.
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  Speaker 4: You know that public officers should avoid conflict of interests.
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  Speaker 4: We know that this could be a conflict of interest.
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  Speaker 4: And if it's not at the least a perceived conflict
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  Speaker 4: of interest.
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  Speaker 2: Has he declared it though? I mean, if he's declared it,
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  Speaker 2: is it a concern?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's what I said about how Natasha Files is
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  Speaker 4: managing this because she is. This is about this is
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  Speaker 4: not about really the bilection. It's come to light because
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  Speaker 4: he's now a candidate and it's come a light. But
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  Speaker 4: this is about his employment prior becoming a candidate. This
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  Speaker 4: is about his involvement in a company that's now come
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  Speaker 4: to the charity, which has left several states.
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  Speaker 3: In this day. We don't know the reasons why that's happened.
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  Speaker 4: And more importantly, it's come about that he said he's
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  Speaker 4: facilitated the ten million dollar grant to a company which
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  Speaker 4: we know now he used to work closely with the
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  Speaker 4: CEO of that company. So where's where's the you know,
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  Speaker 4: has his conflict.
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  Speaker 3: Of indursts been managed correctly?
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  Speaker 1: And do you feel as though this is a legitimate
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  Speaker 1: concern though? Is this mud slinging by the coop? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's got a work history, of.
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  Speaker 4: Course it has, but you know, this is a concern
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  Speaker 4: about you know, the labor government have dealt with all
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  Speaker 4: these corruptions and cover ups and we're talking about Ika
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  Speaker 4: Commission investigations about other things. But this is about someone
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  Speaker 4: who's working with a CEO, comes up into the territory,
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  Speaker 4: facilitates his own words, a ten million dollar grant to
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  Speaker 4: essentially a friend. And how has that been managed by that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty big claim, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: he's doing it with a friend.
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  Speaker 4: Unless his words all right, So he said he facilitated
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  Speaker 4: the ten million dollar grant to the AAI, which is
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  Speaker 4: amphibious aircraft. We know been reported in the media that
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  Speaker 4: he worked closely with the CEO of that department. So
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  Speaker 4: if they're not friends or they don't know each other,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sitting.
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  Speaker 3: In the studio.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, as I understand mister Potter had also
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  Speaker 1: claimed that the project had been through all levels of
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  Speaker 1: due diligence, including an independent assessment.
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  Speaker 2: So do you not believe him?
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't know what to believe.
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  Speaker 4: And this is the question that Natasha Files needs to
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  Speaker 4: come out and answer these questions. I know that other
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  Speaker 4: news medias have asked questions of her and she hasn't
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  Speaker 4: answered them. But this is an opportunity for Natasha Files
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  Speaker 4: to come out and clear the air, to tell territorians
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  Speaker 4: and especially there is a biolation coming out where he
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  Speaker 4: is a candidate, what is going on? Has the conflict
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  Speaker 4: if he's been dealt with, has it been was it
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  Speaker 4: influenced anywhere?
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  Speaker 3: And also I hear that there may have been.
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  Speaker 4: Reported to the IK Has it been reported to the Okay,
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  Speaker 4: we don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a situation here though, Jared, where you know
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  Speaker 1: we've got a candidate who obviously has has previous work experience.
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  Speaker 1: You know everyone's going to have previous work experience. Why,
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  Speaker 1: in your opinion, is it such a concern.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we know that his LinkedIn account has been canceled,
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  Speaker 4: and I was speaking to an next policeman who said
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  Speaker 4: that from his experience when people start hiding things and
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  Speaker 4: deleting things, as you know, there is a concern. So
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  Speaker 4: it's just about clearing the air. Natasha Files needs to
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  Speaker 4: come out in explained to territory and exactly what this
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  Speaker 4: conflict of interest is and how she's managed it all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, I guess it's going to be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see over the next day or two exactly you know,
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  Speaker 1: what gets said. I actually think it's probably more important
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  Speaker 1: to hear from him himself as to you know, as
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  Speaker 1: to you know, what the work experience is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what the relationship is and all that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: And what his actual role was in relation to because
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  Speaker 4: he only said a few words in that debate. He
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  Speaker 4: says he facilitated the ten million dollar grant. How do
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  Speaker 4: you facilitate it? What you know, and he said in
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  Speaker 4: the previous report is not what you know, it's who
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  Speaker 4: you know. So those comments all in together, but this
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  Speaker 4: is coming out and.
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  Speaker 1: Say it does seem as though it's like comments all
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  Speaker 1: being linked together. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to need the opportunity to obviously
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  Speaker 2: defend himself. I don't know the blog.
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  Speaker 1: I've only interviewed him once on the show. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I do wonder exactly what that work experience is and
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  Speaker 1: whether you know whether it is a serious conflict of
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  Speaker 1: interest or whether it is some mudslinging by the Seal pap.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this is there's two days to go before the
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  Speaker 4: election and we could have a big all out. If you,
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  Speaker 4: mister Potter is listening, come on the shows like myself.
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  Speaker 1: Always welcome on the show. Hey, Jared, I do want
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  Speaker 1: to ask you though as well. We know that teachers
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  Speaker 1: are going to go on strike tomorrow morning, so they're
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  Speaker 1: on strike from nine until one o'clock. Now, this is
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  Speaker 1: something that is impacting a lot of territory families. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: plenty of us have got kids that go to public school.
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  Speaker 2: So I did ask the.
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  Speaker 1: Chief Minister about this earlier this morning. She reckons that
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  Speaker 1: Paul Kirby, who is the Minister for Public Employment, he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be putting together you know, or in discussions.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously with the union.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what do you reckon needs to happen here
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  Speaker 1: in terms of this PayPhrase. The teachers didn't get that
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  Speaker 1: bonus that other public servants did.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think needs to happen here?
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  Speaker 4: Remember, Katie, this has all come about where the Labor
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  Speaker 4: government implored the Langland Report for budget repair because they
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  Speaker 4: know that they've overspent the budget. You know it's about
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  Speaker 4: nine billion now, we overspend about one billion dollars a year.
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  Speaker 4: So this is a report that they commissioned to try
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  Speaker 4: and fix the budget. And in that Lalend report it
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  Speaker 4: says there should be a not a pay for but
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  Speaker 4: there should be a pay rise of one thousand dollars,
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  Speaker 4: where the government has said no, it's a pay freeze
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  Speaker 4: and we're going to give them a bonus, which is
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  Speaker 4: a different because you can't really got to to your
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  Speaker 4: bank and to the mortgage and say, well my income
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  Speaker 4: is this, I might get a bonus whether they want
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  Speaker 4: certain income to. What we want to be able to
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  Speaker 4: do with the cop is to reverse the public service
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  Speaker 4: pay frees. Give them, as per the Langland Report, give
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  Speaker 4: public service pay rise of one thousand dollars a year
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  Speaker 4: and secsily your pay rise.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a pay free so.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot go up with CPI like actually, just.
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  Speaker 4: We need to you know, this is the Langing Report
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  Speaker 4: is in twenty nineteen. This is a report commissioned by
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  Speaker 4: the Labor government and maybe net report needs to be
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  Speaker 4: come out and it looked at again and looked at
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  Speaker 4: because things have changed. Your cost of living has gone up.
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  Speaker 4: This is not about just set and forget policy that
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  Speaker 4: the labors seem to do all the time. They just
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  Speaker 4: set it and forget about it. It needs to be
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  Speaker 4: reviewed because things change. We've had trouble in Europe which
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  Speaker 4: probably wasn't around. We've had COVID in twenty ninety. So
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  Speaker 4: it's not a matter who's putting a report out and
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  Speaker 4: saying this is what they recommend. It's about getting it out
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  Speaker 4: and using what it's so, using recommendations, but then of
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  Speaker 4: course reviewing it.
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  Speaker 1: So just to be clear, so you guys don't have
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  Speaker 1: a set amount or a set sort of pay that
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  Speaker 1: you think needs to change for the teachers or for
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  Speaker 1: other public servants.
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  Speaker 4: We just want to get rid of paying frees and
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  Speaker 4: we want to review it to work out how what's
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  Speaker 4: the best way for territory to move forward.
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  Speaker 2: And so what's the thousand dollars a year?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that thousand dollars a year come out of Langland report.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, so you think that no longer that's
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  Speaker 1: probably no longer relevant.
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  Speaker 3: We need to go that's our starting point.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we need to look at because when a
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  Speaker 4: Langland report was commissioned, COVID wasn't around, the war in
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  Speaker 4: Europe wasn't around, So things have definitely changed, there's no
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  Speaker 4: question about it. But our big message is here we
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  Speaker 4: need to reverse the public for pay frees. We need
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  Speaker 4: to give public servants an opportunity to go on to
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  Speaker 4: improve their pay to match other people in around the
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  Speaker 4: shade because we're not going to get people teachers or
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  Speaker 4: education or police come into the charity if they've got
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  Speaker 4: a low income.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's certainly going to be interesting to see exactly
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  Speaker 1: what happens over the coming days with the teachers obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Going on strike tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: We know that there's also been some concerns raised by
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  Speaker 1: the correction staff previous see as well, I know the
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  Speaker 1: fieries and negotiating their pay as well. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on when it comes to.
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  Speaker 4: The comic Labor government have dropped the ball in relation
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  Speaker 4: to territories.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've written and authorized by the CLP there, Jereed Mailey,
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  Speaker 1: nothing nothing like kicking the boot in at the end.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure that you know that labor would do the same.
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  Speaker 1: This morning.
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  Speaker 2: I've given the opportunity, we are going to have to
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  Speaker 2: leave it there