Latest / 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary / 'Moderate' Buttigieg Outlines Radical Presidential Agenda

Transcript

'Moderate' Buttigieg Outlines Radical Presidential Agenda · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

0:02
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
0:04
Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
0:07
Speaker 2: and Jim Garrity of National Review.
0:10
Speaker 1: Free martinis coming up.
0:13
Speaker 3: So glad you're with us for the Wednesday edition of
0:15
Speaker 3: The Three Martini Lunch. And man, we thought it was
0:19
Speaker 3: going to be a runaway for a dual Lsayed in
0:21
Speaker 3: Michigan yesterday in the Democratic US Senate primary. That is
0:24
Speaker 3: not the case. In fact, not everyone is calling it yet.
0:27
Speaker 3: Pretty much everyone has, and by the time you hear this,
0:29
Speaker 3: I think they will have. But you know, Jim, back
0:32
Speaker 3: in the nineties, my favorite TV show, and I'm guessing
0:35
Speaker 3: one of yours two was NFL Prime Time with Chris
0:37
Speaker 3: Berman and Tom Jackson. Whenever they had a lopsided game,
0:40
Speaker 3: or at least it seemed like it with a huge spread,
0:43
Speaker 3: and then the underdog would win. Chris Berman would always
0:45
Speaker 3: say before the highlights, that's why they play the game.
0:48
Speaker 3: And so they did play the game in Michigan. As
0:51
Speaker 3: we said yesterday, the Real Clear Politics average had Abdual
0:55
Speaker 3: Lsaed up ten. The early returns looked like he was
0:59
Speaker 3: going to win per comfortably, and then Haley Stevens one,
1:02
Speaker 3: Wayne County slowly because that's the way Wayne County works
1:06
Speaker 3: in Detroit, but the suburbs, she did pretty well in
1:08
Speaker 3: the suburbs, and she did well in other parts of
1:11
Speaker 3: the state, the college towns and even Grand Rapids of
1:13
Speaker 3: Dual Lsayed did quite well. But as of right now,
1:17
Speaker 3: at least the results I'm looking at MSNBC or NBC News,
1:20
Speaker 3: I guess is saying a dull Lsayette has won, but
1:23
Speaker 3: he's only up by a little less than fifteen thousand votes,
1:26
Speaker 3: one percentage point, way below what was expected. And Mallory mcmorro,
1:30
Speaker 3: who dropped out a month ago, got sixty one thousand votes,
1:33
Speaker 3: So if even a decent majority of those had gone
1:35
Speaker 3: to Haley Stevens, we could have had a huge upset today.
1:38
Speaker 3: So I saw on Piker's freaking out because it wasn't
1:41
Speaker 3: a runaway. Some people are now wondering what's going to
1:43
Speaker 3: happen in the upcoming primaries in Wisconsin and Minnesota. But
1:48
Speaker 3: like we said yesterday, if you're Mike Rodgers, beating l
1:50
Speaker 3: Sayet is probably easier than beating Stevens, and getting l
1:54
Speaker 3: sayeed after just eking it out in the Democratic primary
1:57
Speaker 3: is probably about as good as you can hope for.
2:00
Speaker 1: Well, Hassan Piker is probably freaking out for a bunch
2:02
Speaker 1: of reasons, Greg, among them that he spoke to my
2:05
Speaker 1: National Review colleague Campden Mulder last night. I assume had
2:09
Speaker 1: no idea who she was and just did the interview.
2:11
Speaker 1: And so, first of all, in that sense, good and
2:13
Speaker 1: congratulations to my colleague for getting that interview. I'd like
2:17
Speaker 1: to begin. Look, you and I, I think have appropriately
2:21
Speaker 1: sized grains of salt that we take polling with. We
2:24
Speaker 1: know that polling can be wrong, particularly if it's within
2:27
Speaker 1: the margin of error. Greg I wrote about this in
2:29
Speaker 1: today's Morning joelt the last eight poles had Abdul loss
2:34
Speaker 1: I had by double digits, some by like nineteen points,
2:38
Speaker 1: and as you can tell, it's probably gonna be less
2:39
Speaker 1: than one percentage point. I like to know what happened
2:42
Speaker 1: because usually you could say, ah, you know, primaries are
2:44
Speaker 1: a little bit tougher to poll than than general elections.
2:48
Speaker 1: You said yesterday that Michigan traditionally is not an easy
2:51
Speaker 1: state to poll, but you missed it by like eighteen points, folks,
2:56
Speaker 1: And like the Ironically, the closest poll may be one
2:59
Speaker 1: that had evens ahead by seven, which also was not
3:03
Speaker 1: typically close to the actual results. So I think it's
3:07
Speaker 1: like we always say, oh, response rates are getting lower
3:09
Speaker 1: and things like that. But like, and also there's been
3:11
Speaker 1: this interesting theory that a lot of the DSA and
3:14
Speaker 1: more progressive candidates have been helped by progressive polling outfits
3:18
Speaker 1: that put out numbers that show their candidate well ahead.
3:22
Speaker 1: Maybe that's going on here that that looks kind of
3:24
Speaker 1: plausible in light of what we saw last night. The
3:27
Speaker 1: second thing is, like the dynamics we've seen in these
3:29
Speaker 1: other DSA style candidates has continued. Abdulas A did not
3:34
Speaker 1: run well against African Americans. Greg, you're you're from Michigan.
3:38
Speaker 1: Are they an important constituency for Democrats in that state?
3:41
Speaker 1: Could could you blow them off?
3:42
Speaker 3: And you know you want always say you better do
3:45
Speaker 3: pretty well as a Democrat?
3:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, well when these folks fall in line, yeah, probably.
3:49
Speaker 1: But if I'm Mike Rogers, I'm kind of looking at, Oh,
3:53
Speaker 1: do I have opportunities amongst the demographic? Can you know,
3:56
Speaker 1: can I court this demographic? Yeah? Republicans traditionally don't do
3:59
Speaker 1: well about this, but like, this is the bread and
4:01
Speaker 1: butter for a Democratic candidate. If you're not getting that
4:03
Speaker 1: African American vote in the state like Michigan, you're in
4:06
Speaker 1: real trouble. Thirdly, for the sixty one thousand Michigan Democrats
4:11
Speaker 1: who voted for a candidate who dropped out a month ago.
4:15
Speaker 1: Do you I know, it's summer, people are on vacation,
4:19
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, but it wasn't exactly like
4:22
Speaker 1: really obscure news, Greg. How do we get a memory
4:25
Speaker 1: of these people?
4:28
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe you got to hand it out
4:29
Speaker 3: at the polling place or something. But Michigan has early voting,
4:32
Speaker 3: but it's only like a week, so it's not like
4:34
Speaker 3: you have six eight weeks like in some states like Virginia,
4:37
Speaker 3: where you could have voted for Malley mcmorro before the
4:40
Speaker 3: before she dropped out.
4:41
Speaker 4: That wasn't the case here.
4:42
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Stevens is sitting here thinking, you know,
4:44
Speaker 1: if you'd endorsed me, some chunk of that sixty one
4:47
Speaker 1: thousand people probably would have voted for me, and maybe
4:49
Speaker 1: I would end up on top at the end of
4:51
Speaker 1: all this. So thanks a lot, Thanks a lot for
4:54
Speaker 1: dropping out and staying neutral. Did a lot of good there.
4:57
Speaker 3: Now I will say this, Republicans, you need to do
4:59
Speaker 3: a bet job.
5:01
Speaker 4: Last night.
5:01
Speaker 3: There was no primary for the US Senate, Mike Rodgers
5:04
Speaker 3: was unopposed, and on the governor's race, John James won
5:08
Speaker 3: the nomination.
5:09
Speaker 4: It was competitive, but not really that competitive.
5:11
Speaker 3: So it makes sense that the Democrats turned out in
5:13
Speaker 3: bigger numbers than Republicans. But the Democrats got close to
5:16
Speaker 3: one point five million of people to turn out for
5:19
Speaker 3: the governors, and obviously the Senate race. Less than a
5:21
Speaker 3: million turned out to vote in the gubernatorial primary, and
5:25
Speaker 3: a very smart person I know in Michigan says, think
5:28
Speaker 3: of this as Virginia last year. Jocelyn Benson is probably
5:32
Speaker 3: going to beat John James. Unfortunately in the governor's race.
5:35
Speaker 3: The question is by how much? Think of it like
5:37
Speaker 3: span Berger versus the margin that Jay Jones won the
5:41
Speaker 3: attorney General's race by. So there's going to be a
5:43
Speaker 3: lag for Elsaiya. The question is can John James keep
5:46
Speaker 3: it within a few points so that way Mike Rogers
5:49
Speaker 3: can still win, or will Benson win by a considerable margin,
5:53
Speaker 3: and then the ticket splitting is going to be hard
5:54
Speaker 3: to make up. So that's what I would watch. Republicans
5:57
Speaker 3: have got to be enthused to make this work.
5:58
Speaker 1: Compared it to Virginia's not make it us feel better
6:00
Speaker 1: at Greg, that's you're gonna be z for two for
6:04
Speaker 1: important states. I wrote off for New Jersey years ago.
6:07
Speaker 1: But at least there's some hope for your old home state.
6:10
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, exactly.
6:11
Speaker 5: Now.
6:11
Speaker 3: I don't think Benson's going to win by fifteen or
6:13
Speaker 3: whatever Spamburger won by, but if she wins by five,
6:15
Speaker 3: it's going to be a bigger difference than if she
6:16
Speaker 3: wins by eight or nine, let's say.
6:18
Speaker 1: One last note on Michigan stuff. Greg I brought about
6:20
Speaker 1: this in today's Morning. Joelt, the Democratic state attorney General,
6:24
Speaker 1: said that she will not be attending the Democratic state
6:28
Speaker 1: nominating convention because she doesn't feel safe there. With all
6:31
Speaker 1: of this is a Jewish, lesbian Democrat incumbents. She's already
6:36
Speaker 1: won state wide, but she said she does not feel safe. Greg.
6:39
Speaker 1: What does the state attorney general.
6:41
Speaker 4: Do enforce the law?
6:43
Speaker 1: Right, She's the chief law enforcement officer. And like, I'm
6:47
Speaker 1: sitting there and thinking, if you won't go to your
6:49
Speaker 1: own state party convention because you don't feel somebody should
6:52
Speaker 1: do something about that. I've only there was some state
6:55
Speaker 1: official whose job was to make sure that everyone felt
6:58
Speaker 1: safe in public places and that no one's civil rights
7:01
Speaker 1: were being trampled on by hateful anti Semitic groups. Somebody
7:06
Speaker 1: should do something about that.
7:08
Speaker 3: No, I mean, Dana Nassel is about as far left
7:11
Speaker 3: as you can get. Her only sin on the left
7:13
Speaker 3: is being Jewish. I mean, she's as radical as you
7:15
Speaker 3: want to be on every single policy as you could
7:17
Speaker 3: possibly think of.
7:19
Speaker 4: And so it's literally that.
7:20
Speaker 3: Issue that they're after her for, which is disturbing in
7:24
Speaker 3: a number of ways. And we'll see what happens with
7:27
Speaker 3: that gathering. But one other note from Michigan. It looks
7:30
Speaker 3: like one of the weirdest members of Congress, Shri Thanadar,
7:33
Speaker 3: is going to lose his Democratic primary. I don't know
7:35
Speaker 3: if you've spent a lot of time checking in on
7:37
Speaker 3: Shre Thanadar. He's got a big controversy about animals he
7:41
Speaker 3: killed in research and so forth. That's always very popular
7:43
Speaker 3: in politics. But he's going to lose to a DSA
7:45
Speaker 3: guy named Donovan McKenney. This is a Detroit district Republicans
7:48
Speaker 3: have no hopes of winning, but still nothing good is
7:52
Speaker 3: coming out of there. Good news out of Missouri's first district, though,
7:55
Speaker 3: Corey Busch, former member of the Squad, trying to get
7:57
Speaker 3: back into Congress trouts last night. So she's still be back,
8:00
Speaker 3: still a Democrat, going to represent that district, but the
8:03
Speaker 3: squad's a little smaller, thankfully.
8:05
Speaker 1: Greg. No way around it. If the Bush era of
8:07
Speaker 1: politics is over.
8:10
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
8:12
Speaker 3: But the era for yr business success should just be starting.
8:15
Speaker 3: In fact, it should just be ramping up. And one
8:17
Speaker 3: of the best tools for making sure that that happens
8:19
Speaker 3: is to have the best possible business communication system. And
8:22
Speaker 3: that's where Quote comes in, and that's why today's episode
8:25
Speaker 3: is brought to you by Quote spelled Quo, the business
8:28
Speaker 3: phone system built so you never ever miss a call.
8:31
Speaker 1: Quote is the number one rated business phone system on
8:34
Speaker 1: G two. It's trusted by more than ninety thousand businesses
8:37
Speaker 1: who rely on it to stay reachable and look professional
8:40
Speaker 1: every single day. You can set it up in minutes
8:43
Speaker 1: on any device. You get to keep your existing number,
8:45
Speaker 1: and you can add teammates as you grow with frantic
8:49
Speaker 1: calls to the IT department, and no hassle.
8:52
Speaker 3: Money is on the line. That's the bottom line, So
8:55
Speaker 3: always say hello with Quote. Try Quote for free plus
8:57
Speaker 3: get twenty percent off your first six months. When you
9:00
Speaker 3: go to quote dot com slash three mL, that's quo
9:03
Speaker 3: dot com slash three mL. Quote no miss calls, no
9:08
Speaker 3: missed customers. All right, Jim, Obviously we're locked in on
9:16
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. Here, we're just about three months away
9:19
Speaker 3: from midterm election day. But twenty twenty eight positioning is
9:22
Speaker 3: happening all over the place behind the scenes, because, as
9:25
Speaker 3: we found out in twenty twenty two, people are going
9:27
Speaker 3: to be jumping in before Christmas, probably even before Thanksgiving,
9:30
Speaker 3: and running for president in twenty twenty eight.
9:33
Speaker 4: And earlier this week, Pete Boha.
9:35
Speaker 3: Judge, let it be known that he's leaning more towards
9:38
Speaker 3: running than not running. I mean, other than maybe Gavin Newsom.
9:41
Speaker 3: Pete boodhajudge was a given for twenty twenty eight. In fact,
9:44
Speaker 3: I'm never really sure that he stopped running after twenty twenty.
9:47
Speaker 3: His whole time is Transportation Secretary, and everything since then
9:50
Speaker 3: has been all an angle to do that. But Politico's
9:53
Speaker 3: Jonathan Martin has been going around meeting with potential presidential
9:57
Speaker 3: candidates and always finding some sort of local restaurants to
10:00
Speaker 3: stuff their faces in while they talk about these issues.
10:03
Speaker 3: But this clip from their conversation is what kind of
10:06
Speaker 3: gets me about Pete boodhaj Jedge, and it drives me
10:08
Speaker 3: nets because everybody listens to how he's calm as he
10:11
Speaker 3: says it, I guess and says, oh, he's so insightful,
10:14
Speaker 3: he's so brilliant, he's so nuanced, and so basically the
10:18
Speaker 3: idea here is go for big radical change, but in
10:22
Speaker 3: the meantime, take the wins you can get, because no
10:24
Speaker 3: one else in politics has ever thought of that before.
10:26
Speaker 2: Every big swam there is a base hit. So for
10:31
Speaker 2: the big swing of electoral college reform in the Constitution,
10:34
Speaker 2: there's a base hit which is passing the compact state
10:36
Speaker 2: by state.
10:37
Speaker 1: Many states have passed it.
10:38
Speaker 2: For a big swing like proportional representation in Congress, which
10:42
Speaker 2: ideally would mean that you could elect more than one
10:44
Speaker 2: member in the district the same way we do school
10:46
Speaker 2: board races in this country. The base hits are things
10:49
Speaker 2: like rank choice voting, which is already being used to
10:51
Speaker 2: what senators in mainland in Alaska, or open primaries, or a
10:56
Speaker 2: lot of other measures that are rule right for what
10:59
Speaker 2: I want to do with money in politics, The big
11:01
Speaker 2: swing is a constitutional change. The base hit, which is
11:03
Speaker 2: still pretty ambitious, is things like what they're doing in
11:06
Speaker 2: Montana with the Montana Plan, which is a ballid initiative
11:08
Speaker 2: that addresses money in politics. The same thing is true
11:10
Speaker 2: I think on policy front. So on any policy that
11:13
Speaker 2: I think we should have, like a deep fundamental change,
11:17
Speaker 2: there's something you can do along the way. I guess
11:19
Speaker 2: my point is, don't do the incremental change at the
11:22
Speaker 2: expense of the big change. Do the incremental change while
11:25
Speaker 2: you're pursuing the big change. One should be in the
11:27
Speaker 2: service of the other, not pitting him against each other.
11:29
Speaker 3: So there's the fact that he's basically stating the obvious here,
11:33
Speaker 3: but also don't miss the fact that he's got a
11:35
Speaker 3: pretty radical agenda that he's pushing here, and even what
11:38
Speaker 3: he considers the base hits, of course terrible ideas.
11:40
Speaker 1: First of all, let me begin by saluting Jonathan Martin
11:43
Speaker 1: for figuring out how can I get to eat some
11:45
Speaker 1: of the best restaurants across the country and either get
11:49
Speaker 1: work to pay for it or deduct it as a
11:51
Speaker 1: business expense. So well done, Jonathan Martin, You're living the dream. Secondly,
11:56
Speaker 1: there was interesting because there was another interview where with
12:00
Speaker 1: I think The Diary of a CEO hosts the podcast
12:03
Speaker 1: where buddhaj Edge went down a similar litany of goals
12:07
Speaker 1: and said, this isn't radical stuff, Yes it is, Yes,
12:11
Speaker 1: it is. This is you know, like when you're talking
12:13
Speaker 1: about limit edding the filibuster, that's a radical change that
12:16
Speaker 1: suddenly you you know, you require you fifty votes or
12:19
Speaker 1: fifty one votes, you could do whatever you wanted in
12:20
Speaker 1: the Senate. You would the minority would no longer have
12:23
Speaker 1: any ability to stop or derail ideas that they think
12:26
Speaker 1: are a bad idea. For the last what three generations,
12:29
Speaker 1: we've had this sixty vote threshold, right, different levels of
12:32
Speaker 1: how often it gets imposed, Like that's there. Adding more
12:35
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices that is a radical change. Right to
12:38
Speaker 1: say more than one person in a district, that's a
12:41
Speaker 1: radically all this is like wholesale rewriting the constitution. And
12:45
Speaker 1: he's saying, but this isn't a radical Yes it is.
12:48
Speaker 1: Right now, if you're looking at here and kind of
12:49
Speaker 1: rolling your eyes, it's saying, oh God, Boota Jedge, aren't
12:51
Speaker 1: retired of this guy? You know, didn't he what did
12:53
Speaker 1: we last see him? When he was like on the
12:55
Speaker 1: patternity to leave for two months and nobody noticed, and
12:57
Speaker 1: you know then all the flights got canceled and all
12:59
Speaker 1: that stuff, the port strike on the West coast. Last month,
13:04
Speaker 1: the University of New Hampshire did a poll of New
13:06
Speaker 1: Hampshire Democrats. The headline coming out was that Alexandrio Cossio
13:09
Speaker 1: Cortes is the front runner at twenty two percent. Right
13:13
Speaker 1: behind that was Pete Budajedge at twenty one percent. I
13:16
Speaker 1: think it is when you start there, it is very
13:20
Speaker 1: likely that Budajudge is going to be at least top
13:23
Speaker 1: five and probably at least top three in New Hampshire
13:26
Speaker 1: a bit more than a year from now. So Budhajudge
13:29
Speaker 1: is probably going to be around here. And I do
13:31
Speaker 1: worry that, like you and I have lamented for a
13:33
Speaker 1: long time, when the mainstream media describes the Democrat as
13:37
Speaker 1: a moderate, they mean the reassuring hand gestures, the tone
13:42
Speaker 1: of voice. At McKinsey, we believe that opportunity and problem
13:47
Speaker 1: are two signs of the same coin. You know, Budajedge
13:50
Speaker 1: has done a million one PowerPoint presentations and wowed rooms
13:53
Speaker 1: of corporate executive's time and again as his time as
13:55
Speaker 1: a corporate consultant, and I think he's doing you know,
13:59
Speaker 1: this is kind of the Obama a strategy of taking
14:03
Speaker 1: a very left agenda and making it sound common sense
14:08
Speaker 1: and middle relaxed, you know, the sort of thing that's
14:10
Speaker 1: not going to freak out your mom or her neighbors.
14:12
Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of the you know, the thing here,
14:15
Speaker 1: So I would not underestimate it now. Trump famously said
14:17
Speaker 1: America will not elect a president who looks like Alfredy Newman.
14:21
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's why he grew the beard, but
14:23
Speaker 1: I noticed he doesn't look like he did back when
14:25
Speaker 1: he first appeared on the scene. And also, like, you know,
14:27
Speaker 1: the knock on him back then was that he was,
14:29
Speaker 1: you know, the boy wonder mayor who had really had
14:31
Speaker 1: done done that much in South Bend. He's not young anymore,
14:35
Speaker 1: and he looks like he's been around for a while.
14:36
Speaker 1: So the idea of who is this kid and what's
14:38
Speaker 1: he doing that's not really going to be an effective
14:40
Speaker 1: knock on him this time around, regardless of what you
14:43
Speaker 1: think of his time as Secretary of Transportation. So I, yeah,
14:46
Speaker 1: this is kind of ridiculous, But also I'm kind of
14:48
Speaker 1: getting this the the you know spidey sense, you know,
14:50
Speaker 1: hairs in the back of my neck are starting to
14:52
Speaker 1: say Boodajes could be stronger in this upcoming primary than
14:55
Speaker 1: we think, you know, than we think he could be.
14:57
Speaker 3: No, I think that's right. South Carolina's going to go first.
14:59
Speaker 3: He's not going to do well there probably, but you
15:01
Speaker 3: mentioned New Hampshire, where he's very competitive. He moved from
15:04
Speaker 3: Indiana to Michigan. Michigan's now in one of the i
15:06
Speaker 3: think one of the top five primaries in the lineup,
15:09
Speaker 3: and some people think that his message, his you know whatever,
15:13
Speaker 3: is going to play well in Virginia, which is one
15:15
Speaker 3: of the early primaries as well. And so yeah, don't
15:19
Speaker 3: underestimate him. Even though his record has mayor his record
15:22
Speaker 3: as a Secretary of Transportation, there's really nothing to point to.
15:26
Speaker 3: But he's glib on the debate stage, and the left
15:30
Speaker 3: is convinced that he owns Fox News every time he's
15:32
Speaker 3: on there, and so these days that might be enough
15:35
Speaker 3: to get you some momentum in the Democratic primary. But
15:38
Speaker 3: this agenda is truly radical if it.
15:40
Speaker 1: Comes down to her and AOC and like the Biden
15:43
Speaker 1: versus Sanders or twenty twenty type setup, if you're a Democrat.
15:47
Speaker 1: Doesn't bootijege look like the smart play like smart play
15:52
Speaker 1: in terms of like, you know, all of his you know,
15:54
Speaker 1: ivy league degrees. I don't just mean also making fun
15:58
Speaker 1: of AOC and her lack of you know, the fact
16:02
Speaker 1: that she is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
16:04
Speaker 1: Like he just looks like a you know, a much
16:06
Speaker 1: better chance of playing in the Midwest and all those
16:08
Speaker 1: key swing states than she is. So like, I you know,
16:11
Speaker 1: I'm talking myself into believing the boodah judge you could
16:13
Speaker 1: actually run the table here and end up being the nominee.
16:16
Speaker 3: So yeah, don't overlook him, I'll say that much. Who
16:18
Speaker 3: knows what's gonna happen between now and then. But he's
16:21
Speaker 3: stronger than a lot of people think, and that's dangerous
16:23
Speaker 3: given what he was talking about for sure. So anyway, again,
16:27
Speaker 3: you don't want that bad dayste left in your mouth,
16:29
Speaker 3: so go with loraine coow. Loreenco is better for you
16:33
Speaker 3: chewing gum that uses the same mineral your teeth are
16:35
Speaker 3: made of to support daily enamel health. And Jim, what
16:38
Speaker 3: a mineral it is?
16:39
Speaker 1: Now? Hydroxy appetite that is the word of the day.
16:43
Speaker 1: The week the month because it's the mineral that your
16:45
Speaker 1: enamel is actually made of, and Lourenco strengthens your enamel
16:49
Speaker 1: and repairs damage. It also comes in tons of flavors
16:52
Speaker 1: including mint, cinnamon, bubblegum, and berry. And they have a
16:55
Speaker 1: really great fluoride free toothpaste as well.
16:57
Speaker 3: I've tried the toothpaste. In fact, I use it every day.
17:00
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. I chew the gum, My daughter loves the gum,
17:03
Speaker 3: and it's just the simplest, easiest way to strengthen your
17:06
Speaker 3: tooth enamel. So right now, Loreenco was offering our listeners
17:09
Speaker 3: up to fifty percent off at buylreene dot com slash threeml.
17:13
Speaker 3: That's by loreene l a r i n dot com
17:16
Speaker 3: slash threeml for up to fifty percent off. All right, Jim,
17:26
Speaker 3: let's head out to Arizona. Arizona had its gubernatorial primary
17:31
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, Republican Congressman Andy Biggs easily
17:35
Speaker 3: winning the nomination, and that means Katie Hobbs, the Democrats,
17:38
Speaker 3: who was unopposed, is now up to pick a running mate,
17:43
Speaker 3: and she is picking a Republican. She's picking John Giles,
17:48
Speaker 3: a Republican and former mayor of Mesa, Arizona. He's been
17:51
Speaker 3: on the Mesa City Council. He was mayor for a
17:53
Speaker 3: little over a decade, and he sort of gained a
17:56
Speaker 3: small national profile in the last decade or so by
17:59
Speaker 3: being a publican that was adamantly opposed to Donald Trump.
18:02
Speaker 3: So that is going to be her choice for running mate.
18:06
Speaker 3: It seems maybe he'll speak in public, because Katie Hobbs
18:09
Speaker 3: hardly ever does. She basically is in witness protection, which
18:12
Speaker 3: is an odd place to be as governor of a state.
18:14
Speaker 3: Obviously it's a swing state. Obviously it's a competitive state.
18:17
Speaker 3: So we'll see how things shake out here. But it
18:20
Speaker 3: seems that Katie Hobbs not too confident that she can
18:23
Speaker 3: win with a Democratic running mate here.
18:25
Speaker 4: So is that a play of weakness or a play
18:27
Speaker 4: of strength?
18:28
Speaker 1: Greg As we started talking about this, I just flashed
18:30
Speaker 1: to former governor Doug Doocy and remember how awesome he was,
18:35
Speaker 1: Remember how like we just we just got rid of
18:37
Speaker 1: candidates like that. We can't havedate, we can't have nice things.
18:40
Speaker 1: That's just I'm sorry, I was having a flashback of
18:43
Speaker 1: intense depression. Look, you know, I suspect if you're a
18:47
Speaker 1: Republican or you're right of center.
18:51
Speaker 5: I don't know.
18:51
Speaker 1: I want to say this is necessarily a pleasant surprise.
18:53
Speaker 1: I do think maybe this is an indication that this
18:55
Speaker 1: perception of like, ah, the whole country has shifted left
18:58
Speaker 1: in the last two years. I don't think that's necessarily
19:01
Speaker 1: the case in Arizona. And I think it's a demonstration that,
19:05
Speaker 1: you know, hard left candidate like not only does hard
19:07
Speaker 1: left candidates not selling in Arizona, apparently even another Democrat
19:11
Speaker 1: may not sell in Arizona if you're Katie Hobbs, and
19:13
Speaker 1: I think it also indicates you don't This is not
19:15
Speaker 1: a move of strength. This is not a move you
19:17
Speaker 1: make if you feel super confident about your odds of
19:21
Speaker 1: winning the general election. I think this is the sort
19:24
Speaker 1: of thing where you look at this and you say, Okay,
19:26
Speaker 1: you know, like one Democrats, I'm picking a moderate Republican
19:29
Speaker 1: as by lieutenant governor. What are you gonna do about it?
19:32
Speaker 1: Not vote for me? You're gonna vote for you know
19:33
Speaker 1: you're gonna let the Republicans win this one. You know
19:35
Speaker 1: you're gonna let a pro Trump Republican win the governor's one.
19:38
Speaker 1: The only way you get to keep control of the
19:40
Speaker 1: governor's mansion is by having this anti Trump moderate Republican
19:44
Speaker 1: as my running mate. Right, So in a way, that's
19:46
Speaker 1: kind of a statement about the lack of leverage that
19:49
Speaker 1: the left winning the Democratic Party has in a state
19:51
Speaker 1: like Arizona. You know, this this also like a mansion
19:55
Speaker 1: to see how hard they, you know, the Republicans go
19:58
Speaker 1: after this. He did speak at the twenty twenty four
20:01
Speaker 1: Democratic Convention. So this is very much a I don't
20:05
Speaker 1: how to say, Jeff Flake, I don't know what you
20:08
Speaker 1: want to say. What other moderate Republicans, you know, Cheney,
20:12
Speaker 1: you know, the idea of like this is not this
20:14
Speaker 1: is exactly the kind of Republican you'd expect to see
20:17
Speaker 1: on a Democratic ticket. But with that said, it's still
20:20
Speaker 1: a Republican on a Democratic ticket. So does this increase
20:23
Speaker 1: the odds of Hobbs winning a second term? I think
20:25
Speaker 1: it does. I think it also indicates that the center
20:28
Speaker 1: of gravity in Arizona and perhaps nationwide, is much more
20:31
Speaker 1: closer to the center than the far left of the
20:34
Speaker 1: Democratic Party would like to believe it is.
20:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really interesting.
20:37
Speaker 3: I'm trying to decide what is maybe different about Arizona
20:41
Speaker 3: and possibly Texas, since that Senate race between Paxton and
20:44
Speaker 3: Taller Rico is so close. We've talked so many times
20:46
Speaker 3: about how people have moved on from border issues, But
20:49
Speaker 3: if it was in your backyard Arizona, Texas, is that
20:53
Speaker 3: still lingering in your mind about how much better it
20:55
Speaker 3: is now than how it was four years ago, even
20:58
Speaker 3: two years ago? Does that che how you approach these
21:01
Speaker 3: races as opposed to the rest of the country.
21:03
Speaker 1: I would saying the most recent Texas poll statewide, Yeah,
21:06
Speaker 1: tall Rico's ahead. That's kind of freaky. Ken Paxton is
21:09
Speaker 1: a uniquely weak candidate. I also note that every other
21:12
Speaker 1: Republican candidate running statewide was anywhere from like two to
21:15
Speaker 1: seven eight nine points ahead. If tall Rico wins, you're
21:18
Speaker 1: gonna say, oh my god, the Trump backlash. Republicans are
21:21
Speaker 1: Republicans in disarray. Texas finally turned blue. By the way,
21:26
Speaker 1: it is worth noting back in twenty eighteen, am I
21:29
Speaker 1: remembering correctly of Beto or Wurk versus Ted Cruz. Ted
21:33
Speaker 1: Cruz never trailed a poll, sure a bunch that were close,
21:37
Speaker 1: and Betoka within three points, the best that any Democrat
21:39
Speaker 1: had done the lesson of this is going to be,
21:42
Speaker 1: don't nominate Ken Paxton. If taller Rico manages to win.
21:45
Speaker 1: Now again, it's Texas, but these poll members are indicating
21:49
Speaker 1: being a Republican in Texas, which usually is enough, may
21:53
Speaker 1: not be enough. If your name is Ted Ken Paxton,
21:55
Speaker 1: you leave a trailer slimee every where you go. So,
21:58
Speaker 1: like Texas Republicans, you were warned. John Cornyn was right there.
22:01
Speaker 1: You decided not to go with that. So wait a
22:04
Speaker 1: swearde as they say close to the Rio grand If.
22:07
Speaker 3: The state of Texas elects James Tallerico, even given all
22:10
Speaker 3: of Paxton's major problems, wow, that will be something that
22:14
Speaker 3: nobody could have expected or very few would have expected
22:17
Speaker 3: a very short time ago. All right, well, we've talked
22:19
Speaker 3: about potential presidential candidates already. We'll talk about another one
22:22
Speaker 3: who's just losing his mind. It seems like out in
22:25
Speaker 3: California that would be Gavin Newsom in just a second.
22:28
Speaker 3: In the meantime, hopefully you're not losing your mind, and
22:30
Speaker 3: hopefully you're of good health. But you should always get
22:33
Speaker 3: a good check up. You should always make sure you
22:35
Speaker 3: check in with your doctor when you should, and for
22:37
Speaker 3: that if you don't know who your primary is and
22:40
Speaker 3: or it's time to get a new one, or you
22:41
Speaker 3: need a better specialist, go to ZocDoc. Zochdoc could not
22:45
Speaker 3: make it easier for you. It lets you search and
22:47
Speaker 3: compare local in network doctors, check the reviews, check the schedule,
22:51
Speaker 3: make your own appointment.
22:52
Speaker 1: I understand the reluctance to go to the doctor. I
22:54
Speaker 1: know that sense of like, you know they're gonna go there,
22:56
Speaker 1: they're going to give you bad news, they're going to
22:58
Speaker 1: find something wrong with you. But here's the thing, it's
23:01
Speaker 1: easier to procrastinate. You're like, ah, finding a doctor it's
23:04
Speaker 1: just such a pain and takes so much time. ZocDoc
23:07
Speaker 1: is here to make it much tougher for you to procrastinate,
23:10
Speaker 1: because when you go online you can find doctors really close,
23:13
Speaker 1: like I did with my optometrist. You're like, oh, well,
23:15
Speaker 1: it takes forever to make an appointment. Well, actually, on ZocDoc,
23:18
Speaker 1: appointments usually happen fast, sometimes between twenty four to seventy
23:21
Speaker 1: two hours. Sometimes you can even find the same day appointment.
23:24
Speaker 1: When you've got that, you don't have excuses anymore, and
23:27
Speaker 1: then you can actually address your health instead of just
23:29
Speaker 1: kind of ignoring it and hoping any that nagging pain
23:32
Speaker 1: or that issue in the back of your head, it'll
23:34
Speaker 1: go away, like that Spidey sense I described earlier with
23:36
Speaker 1: the nares. I think about that the possibilities of the
23:39
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight Democratic primary, and the hairs in the
23:42
Speaker 1: back of my neck go up. That might be a
23:43
Speaker 1: health issue, and I probably should go check out zoctoc.
23:45
Speaker 3: Your health matters and taking care of yourself should not
23:47
Speaker 3: be complicated. So find in book the right doctor with ZocDoc.
23:50
Speaker 3: Head to ZocDoc dot com slash three mL to get
23:54
Speaker 3: started and check that appointment off your to do list.
23:56
Speaker 4: That's zoc doc.
23:58
Speaker 3: Dot com Slash three m L. All right, Jim on
24:10
Speaker 3: to our chaser, Gavin Newsom. Haven't heard a ton from
24:12
Speaker 3: him lately. He's still considered, I think, among the upper
24:16
Speaker 3: tier of the twenty twenty eight likely Democratic presidential candidates.
24:19
Speaker 3: Like Buddha je Edge. He's been planning this for years,
24:21
Speaker 3: if not decades. Yesterday, the Senate Judiciary Committee advanced the
24:26
Speaker 3: nomination of Todd blanche to be the permanent US Attorney General.
24:30
Speaker 3: Had been held up for a while because Tom Tillis
24:32
Speaker 3: and John Cornyn wouldn't approve him until he decided to
24:36
Speaker 3: officially scrap Trump's idea of an anti weaponization fund, which
24:40
Speaker 3: apparently got done, and then after the vote in committee,
24:44
Speaker 3: John Cornyn was asked this question about whether Trump still
24:48
Speaker 3: wants to do something like that, and his response to.
24:51
Speaker 1: It, I was saying, as recently as yesterday, he likes
24:53
Speaker 1: the idea of this fund, that he wants to find
24:55
Speaker 1: some way to pay these people. Does that con discern
24:58
Speaker 1: you as someone who's trying to I against getting this
25:01
Speaker 1: anti weaponization from the place.
25:03
Speaker 5: Well, there's nothing we could do to reign in the
25:07
Speaker 5: president when he said he likes the fund and he
25:09
Speaker 5: wishes still exists. But the fact of the matter, it's dead.
25:13
Speaker 5: And that's all we could do under these circumstances.
25:16
Speaker 4: It's dead.
25:17
Speaker 3: So Gavin Newsom tweets Congress is dead, Maga has a king.
25:21
Speaker 3: Republicans killed the Constitution. If we don't win in November,
25:25
Speaker 3: democracy in America is over. Jim, I think he needs
25:29
Speaker 3: to calm down a little bit.
25:30
Speaker 1: So people have talked about how presidential campaigns, which used
25:34
Speaker 1: to be kind of a year and a half sort
25:36
Speaker 1: of thing, have now turned into a two year process.
25:40
Speaker 1: Last cycle. Trump announced he was running for president again,
25:43
Speaker 1: like a week after the midterm elections of twenty twenty two,
25:47
Speaker 1: and I kind of wonder if Gavin Newsom so the
25:50
Speaker 1: one had he did? You correct, He's going to start
25:52
Speaker 1: this primary with huge advantages, and he's going to have
25:55
Speaker 1: probably the best fundraising network of any Democratic candidate. Tons
25:58
Speaker 1: of name id, tons of When you're governor of California,
26:01
Speaker 1: you're a national figure. But on the other hand, we've
26:04
Speaker 1: all known that Gavin Newsom has been running for president,
26:07
Speaker 1: certainly for the last two years, and probably even before that,
26:10
Speaker 1: you know, went through the LA fires. He's he's you know,
26:13
Speaker 1: like by being constantly in the news. I kind of
26:15
Speaker 1: wonder if there'll be a sense either he peaked early
26:18
Speaker 1: or just by the time people actually start thinking about it,
26:21
Speaker 1: which is going to be really closer to the tail
26:23
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty seven, not the early end of
26:24
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. Well, you have kind of worn out
26:27
Speaker 1: as welcome. Well, we just kind of feel like everybody's
26:29
Speaker 1: written their Gavin Newsom profile, everybody's written everybody's heard about him.
26:32
Speaker 1: They'll probably be a bunch of debates. The debates will
26:34
Speaker 1: probably start early and I kind of wonder if, like,
26:37
Speaker 1: when you see this tone of democracy is dead, you know,
26:39
Speaker 1: diet you know this, I haven't seen that somebody look
26:42
Speaker 1: that paniced in California since the movie The Invasion of
26:45
Speaker 1: the Body Snatchers. They're coming, They're comming, They're here, you know.
26:49
Speaker 1: By the way, great joke the nineteen seventies one, the
26:51
Speaker 1: guy who's panicking was the protagonist of the guy in
26:53
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties one. Because it's kind of a good, good,
26:55
Speaker 1: good reuse of an actor. But the idea that that
26:59
Speaker 1: if you're you're Gavin Newsom, you need to keep the
27:02
Speaker 1: attention on you and everything needs to be round you got,
27:04
Speaker 1: everything has to be turned up to eleven, as as
27:07
Speaker 1: Sineltap did. There's kind of just this sense that I
27:10
Speaker 1: don't think you can sustain that tone. I think after
27:12
Speaker 1: a while people start to tune it out and there'll
27:14
Speaker 1: be this hunger for newer fate. Why do you think
27:17
Speaker 1: there's been all this talk about abdulasa Ed and Graham
27:20
Speaker 1: Plattner and Francesca Ham. There's this desire for new faces,
27:26
Speaker 1: and you know, despite all the work he's had done,
27:28
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is still not that much of a fresh face.
27:32
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.
27:33
Speaker 3: And like Buddha Jedge, there's no record, Well, there is
27:35
Speaker 3: a record, it's just all it's a bad record.
27:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, that record went up in Smoke and Fuego. As
27:42
Speaker 1: I used to say on Sports Center.
27:43
Speaker 3: He's great at trolling, though, Is ada going to be
27:46
Speaker 3: the campaign message?
27:47
Speaker 1: That's like, that's what we want out of our president
27:49
Speaker 1: these days. Right, It's not like it's actually govern are
27:52
Speaker 1: running the executive branch. No, it's all about being on
27:54
Speaker 1: social media and controlling as much as possible.
27:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, what a Wednesday. Let's say what Thursday has a
27:59
Speaker 4: star for us? I'll see you then see you tomorrow.
28:01
Speaker 4: Greg Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbas of Radio America.
28:05
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for being with us today.
28:06
Speaker 3: Please be sure to subscribe to the Three Martini Lunch Podcast.
28:09
Speaker 3: If you don't already, encourage your friends to do so
28:11
Speaker 3: as well.
28:12
Speaker 4: We'd love to have them listening.
28:13
Speaker 3: Thanks also for your five star ratings and your kind reviews.
28:16
Speaker 4: Please keep those coming. They help us out a lot,
28:18
Speaker 4: especially those reviews. Also get us on your home devices.
28:21
Speaker 3: All you have to say is play Three Martini Lunch Podcast.
28:23
Speaker 3: Follow us both on x He's at Jim Garritty, I'm
28:26
Speaker 3: at Greg Corumbas and follow Three Martini Lunch on Facebook
28:29
Speaker 3: and Instagram.
28:31
Speaker 4: Have a terrific Wednesday.
28:32
Speaker 3: Join us again Thursday for the next three Martini Lunch