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S02Ep13 - What Makes a Great Bull? Brotherhood Panel Answers Your Toughest Questions · The Bull Brotherhood

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  A bull is there to enhance a relationship, not
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  to try to change it and be something that, you
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  know, he's not. A husband can speak to me about
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  him, though, I would, happy wife, happy life,
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  leave a lasting impression. If you're here, you're
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  not just curious. You're ready to elevate. So
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  to all the bulls, hot wives, stags, and open
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  -minded explorers, we see you. Let's go. This
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  brotherhood's for men whose stories need to get
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  told. Say it loud. Say it loud. This is who we
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  are. Bold, confident, and seductive. Dominant
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  and classy. We're standing tall, never fall.
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  Bull Brotherhood. Luxury untold. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  good evening. Welcome to another episode of the
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  Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the man with the
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  plan, Brian Morgan, a .k .a. the Sigma male,
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  the lone wolf himself. Coming at you from Splash
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  Mocha, Atlanta, 2026. Along with my brother from
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  another mother, the perpetual student, the one
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  and only Socrates. What's up? What's good, y
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  'all? I'm over here working on technical difficulties,
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  but we having a good time. And ladies and gentlemen,
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  we are giving the other member of the podcast
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  the lovely siren of the Siren of Freedom podcast.
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  She's taking a night off because... This is a
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  very, very, very, very special event and a very,
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  very special podcast for us because we not only
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  have members of the Brotherhood up here, we have
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  the originators of the Brotherhood up here. All
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  six of us in one place at one time. This shit
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  may never happen again, but we are here tonight,
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  okay? We really don't have any specific topics
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  to talk about. We're just going to shoot from
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  the hip. as the brothers say, and we're going
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  to make it work. So I'm going to pass the mic
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  over to my right to the man from the Keys and
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  Anchors podcast, and he's going to introduce
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  himself and pass it over. Is this thing on? Yeah.
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  All right, to all the Bull Brotherhood listeners
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  out there, this is out. Michael C. with the Keys
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  and Anklets podcast. Here to support my brothers.
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  Happy to see what they're doing. Oh, you got
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  canes? Oh, I'm sorry. You know, like you said,
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  nothing scripted, just kind of off the top. So
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  I would suggest that those in the audience try
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  to take advantage of this. I mean, on this panel,
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  you have, I'd say, close to almost 200 years
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  of experience in the lifestyle between the six
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  of us. I know I'm at 25. I know Demetri is in
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  excess of 25. Well, maybe not 200. Maybe closer
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  to like 150. You know what I'm saying? But there's
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  a lot. And take advantage of it. You know what
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  I'm saying? Because this is the first time we've
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  all been in the same place at the same time.
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  There's always maybe one or two of us that couldn't
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  make it. So we're all here for this one. So hopefully
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  you guys can take advantage of it and pick our
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  brains a little bit. Hello, everybody. This is
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  Pagan. I also, man, I'm just honored to be here
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  with my boys. They're more than my boys. They're
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  my brothers. These are the guys that when I need
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  a checkup or I need to get advice or I need somebody
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  to tell me the truth that I don't like, these
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  are the people, more than my actual brothers,
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  that I would go to. So I mean that when I say
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  that. Happy to be here. And it's what Michael
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  said. Yeah, if there's anything that people are
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  wondering, I'm sure the audience here can help
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  us out. But I'm just happy to be here to chop
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  it up with you. Yeah, what's going on, everybody?
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  This is Mr. Oka. I'm just excited to be here
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  with the fellas. I mean, I'm just going to repeat
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  what everybody else said. You know, we don't
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  all get to be in the same place at the same time
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  on a regular basis. I'm excited to be able to
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  be here and, you know, just talk shit and talk
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  shop. I mean, for the most part, for us, these
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  are the type of conversations. I would say it's
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  nice to let people kind of be a fly on the wall
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  to the stuff that we talk about on a regular
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  basis. So, you know, jump in, help us out. That's
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  all? Yep. I'm going to get that all day. They're
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  going to see me on Sunday. Is the mic on? Yeah.
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  Hey, good afternoon, everybody. I'm Dimitri.
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  I'm coming out of Tampa, host of Splat Smoker.
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  As all you guys know, this is a situation where
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  we all get together and we entertain as well
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  as educate. And I can also say I want to propose
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  that this will be a birth. of our first reunion
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  because I'm pretty sure there will be many, many
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  more in the near future where we all get together.
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  This is not a one and done. So please feel free
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  to take advantage of it, soak up the knowledge,
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  and get some laughs in. And please don't be shy
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  to ask questions. That's what we're here for,
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  to entertain and educate. Thank you. So I want
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  to tell you guys a little bit of how I got started.
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  and then I'm going to check in and see if you
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  guys have any questions. And I've told this story
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  a lot of times, but, you know, like this is a
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  dream come true for me. So when I got into lifestyle,
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  I was in with my wife. It was very swinger, almost.
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  It was damn near vanilla to me because she wasn't
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  comfortable with a lot of things, and I did not
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  want to push her. Ex -wife. Thank you. Thank
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  you. My bad. Forgot that part. Yeah, I sure am.
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  Ex -wife. I got in a lifestyle with my ex -wife.
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  That's called white girl sass right there. Spicy
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  sass. So when I was with my ex -wife, it was
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  really very slow moving. So when I got divorced,
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  I wanted to be a bull. That was like my dream.
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  Because when I first got in the lifestyle, my
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  first event and the first time I saw my wife
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  play was with a bull. And I started listening
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  to this man, Michael C. And I just learned and
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  I learned and I learned and I learned about Splash.
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  But at the time, I wasn't really trying to go.
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  And then, long story short, met this fella and
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  then the rest of the squad. And I just soaked
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  up everything I could with these guys. Because,
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  like you said, anywhere from 150 to 200 years
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  of experience from different perspectives and
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  everybody else in different states, different
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  perspectives. What I really love about the gentleman
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  on this panel is, like, there hasn't been anything
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  I said, you know what, I want to learn or I want
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  to get better at or I want to, you know, stop
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  messing up ex -wife and wife, you know, stuff
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  like that. I can call so many of these guys.
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  Now, some of them are a little harder to get
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  in touch with. You got to be persistent. But
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  I can get in touch with these gentlemen and learn
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  it at a high level. And that's why I did this
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  podcast. There's a lot of people out here. You
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  can listen to a podcast and there's nothing wrong
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  with it. You can hear all the salacious stories.
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  But I said, I want to be in the stories. I don't
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  want to be listening to it. I want to know how
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  to get there. So when I want to know how to get
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  the experiences I want, I call these gentlemen.
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  And I call them and I ask them every kind of
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  question. And if they don't have the question
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  and answer, they'll either refer one of the other
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  of these people on this panel or they'll know
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  somebody else. And so my thing is success leaves
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  clues. Right. Like when you're successful, there's
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  a pattern behind it. There's a reason why certain
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  things work and they don't work. Right. And so
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  when you go to people like this guy who's done
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  it in two continents. Right. And the experience
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  that he's had and he brings it to the table.
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  That's something you want to take advantage of
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  because when you come to these weekends, you
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  want to have a great time. When you pick a bull
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  out, if you're a couple and you want to have
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  an experience with a gentleman, you want to have
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  a great time. You want to be able to filter out
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  the riffraffs. You want to get to know somebody
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  that wants to get to know you, right? And you
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  want to, if you're a husband, you want your wife
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  to have a good time, right? If you're a wife,
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  you want your husband to have a good time. If
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  you're a bull, you want to have a good time and
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  you want to make sure that the couple does. So
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  those are my thoughts. Anybody have any questions
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  before I start? You know, I always have a thousand
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  questions. So, yeah, go ahead. So what advice
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  would you give to someone trying to build a good
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  reputation for themselves in the lifestyle? Let
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  me repeat the question. So the question is, what
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  advice would someone, anybody on this panel have
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  for building a good reputation in the lifestyle?
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  Be your true, authentic self, first and foremost.
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  All right? Be who you really are. If you attend
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  an event, say, by yourself, and you're watching
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  other bulls, okay, he has his own style. Each
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  person up here, we have our own style. OK, that
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  style might not be for you. So watch, really
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  watch the ones who know how to approach that
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  couple and approach that husband first. OK, and
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  know how to deal with the husband and bring the
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  wife in accordingly. All right. That's how you
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  do it. Don't go just because you're at Splash
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  Mocha and start tapping and or standing there
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  looking like. okay if i'm looking at you like
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  this you're saying like what the fuck is wrong
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  this motherfucker you know i'm saying don't do
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  things like that guys all right that's what messes
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  it up for everybody uh but definitely find out
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  who you are first and foremost be your true authentic
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  self uh crawl for you walk walk for you run don't
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  come to the super bowl this is a super bowl don't
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  come to the super bowl first all right go to
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  small little events first and so on and so on
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  and so on That's my take on it. I don't know
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  other guys. I think it's a process, you know,
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  something that you learn over time. Yeah. You
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  learn how to be a good bull through experiences
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  because, in all honesty, you're truly educated
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  by the couples. You know, you're educated. The
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  wolf is educated by the rabbit that he's hunting.
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  you know he's gonna learn their patterns he's
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  gotta learn how to hunt it so as a bull i'll
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  have an experience with one couple i'll learn
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  how they work i'll have an experience with another
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  couple and i'll learn how they work since individuals
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  there's so many different variations of couples
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  that you're going to meet it just takes time
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  over the years of meeting so many different types
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  of people then you start learning to read the
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  room We always say read the room, read the room,
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  read the room. You can't read the room without
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  experience because common sense is only common
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  sense when it's something that's common to you.
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  So for a bull to become successful and earn a
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  good reputation, they've got to put time in,
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  work in, meet different types of couples. So
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  for me, meeting couples who were soft swappers,
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  full swappers. hot wife, you meet all of these
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  people and over the years you learn. And then
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  more than anything, don't be a dick. You know,
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  don't be a dick. You know, I can be, people will
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  often say, oh, I thought you were an asshole.
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  No, I'm not going to be an asshole to somebody
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  who I'm trying to have sex with. I'm not going
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  to be an asshole to somebody who is allowing
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  me to interact with his wife. I'm going to be
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  a perfect gentleman and I'm going to assume nothing.
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  So once you've put in years of it, that's why
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  I've often talked to couples who are like, well,
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  I've got this 23 -year -old bull, shut the fuck
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  up. He's got no life experience. What life experience
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  does a 23 -year -old bull have? You can play
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  with a 20 -year -old bull, but if you expect
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  a 20 -year -old bull to perform like he has years
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  of experience, I mean, you've got... You've been
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  married. You got kids. You have a career. You've
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  done all these different things, and this kid
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  is only learning how to use his dick. He don't
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  have enough experience. But not saying that he's
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  going to be bad. It's just that you can't expect
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  him to give you anything but some supreme penis
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  if that's what he has the ability to give. But
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  all the other things that you expect the Bulls
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  to be able to do, the mind -reading part. You
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  know, people will talk to us. It's like you're
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  a mind reader. I'm not a mind reader. It's just
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  I've spent enough time and enough years looking
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  at different behaviors and different patterns
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  and winding up in a lot of fucked up situations
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  so that now I can be an effective bull. So it's
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  not an overnight thing. It's not, hey, I've been
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  in lifestyle for six months and I'm a pro. None
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  of that. This is not how it works. You know,
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  there's no thing. You can't become a physician
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  in two years. You can't become a mechanic, a
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  successful mechanic in two years. You can't become
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  great at anything in two years. And dealing with
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  a couple, two human beings, two different personalities,
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  two different sets of emotions is something that
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  takes a lot to get good at. So there is no quick,
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  easy way to become a good bull. And there's also
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  not really a quick, easy way to build up your
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  reputation. Because as a bull, you can have 10
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  years of being a great guy and have one mishap,
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  say one stupid thing, and then now you're a scumbag.
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  So it's just time, experience, you know, make
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  sure that your reputation is more important than
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  your dick. Something that's important is being
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  consistent. I mean, being a person who means
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  what they say and says what they be. My thing
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  is I'm really not too caught up in people liking
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  me, but you're going to respect me. You know
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  what I'm saying? And that's something that you
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  can control from your very first interaction
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  with somebody is making sure that you're being
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  consistent in the way that you carry yourself.
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  the things that you say, the way that you respond
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  to people, because over time, people will start
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  to be able to pick that up about you, and that
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  will become the reputation that you have. You
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  know what I'm saying? Like, you know, whatever
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  you do, okay, that's how he is. If he says that
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  he's going to be somewhere, he's going to be
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  somewhere. I mean, I talk to a lot of couples,
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  and guys get, you know, a reputation for being
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  kind of flaky. because they'll say they're going
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  to do something and then they don't do it. And
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  then it comes up again. They say they're going
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  to do something and they don't do it. And all
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  of a sudden that label gets attached to you.
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  And once any type of label gets attached to you,
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  if it's a negative label, it can take you almost
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  twice as long to shake that or change that narrative.
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  Where if you try to be mindful of those things
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  in the beginning, it can make it a lot easier.
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  So I would probably say the one thing I would
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  add is just being consistent. Yeah, and I would
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  add to what you just said. Whatever you're consistently
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  doing is going to be your reputation. It's interesting
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  because reputation is not the same as character.
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  Character is who you are. Reputation is what
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  people think you are. Your character is going
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  to become your reputation, but it's not always
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  the same thing. So I just worry about my character,
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  and I let everything else fall in line. And if
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  people think well of me, great. As Michael pointed
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  out, I care about Mr. Mocha the other day said
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  something that was so concise and kind of explained
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  it very well. I don't really, it's not that you
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  don't care about what people think. We all care
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  about what people think, but some of us care
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  too much about what strangers think. The people
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  that mean something to you. that's what builds
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  you up and keeps you in check. And that's, you
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  know, if people mean something to you, care about
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  what they think, your reputation with them. The
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  rest of people, I really don't give a fuck. I
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  don't know you. And, but I have noticed that
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  if you do have good character, you will meet
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  people that you've never met. And they're like,
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  you have a good reputation and that precedes
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  you. And the other thing I'll mention is there's
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  an expression that, you know, I forgot how it
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  goes, but a reputation can take a lifetime to
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  build, but seconds to destroy. You can fuck up.
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  So when you talk about consistency, what are
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  you being consistent at? Because if you're consistently
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  doing something that is not good, that's going
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  to be your reputation. So it's not just being
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  consistent to me. It's like be consistently a
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  stand -up person, someone with solid character.
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  You know, don't lie. These basic things that
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  we were taught in kindergarten. So that's just
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  my thoughts on, you know, reputation. Damn it.
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  See, this is the problem with being the last
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  person to speak. They say all this good shit
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  and I got aced off what I have to say again because
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  everybody took everything I was going to say.
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  Get the left. This is kind of like a loaded question.
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  Well, a loaded response because there are different
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  degrees of being a bull. I never want to call
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  a person a fake bull. I would use the word inexperienced.
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  It takes a lot of education. It takes a lot of
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  time. It takes a lot of patience. But a lot of,
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  I would say, inexperienced bulls, they will start
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  at the beginning of the book and then never make
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  it to the end. They read just enough to get in
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  the door. They don't read enough to stay in that
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  door. But there's a place for everybody. You
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  have the one -trick pony where you're a bull
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  based off physical. You're that BBC bull, and
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  that's comfortable in that box, but you want
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  to also be a bull to substance, where it takes
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  that you have to read those books, have open
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  engagements, be comfortable in disagreements,
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  also be willing to stand on your word and stand
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  on principle. Being a bull is really, really,
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  really fucking hard. because it takes really,
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  really honesty. You got to be willing to accept
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  the criticism, embrace. You can pretty much embrace
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  the love and everything that everybody comes
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  to you, but the criticism, you have to really
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  be comfortable accepting because you're not going
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  to be right about everything. You're not, but
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  you make correctors and you keep that path going.
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  But as for the gentleman on this panel right
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  here. It took us a lot of time and time and also
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  to counsel that we talk amongst each other. So
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  it's not just the fact that what we read, we
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  practice. No, we also read it and we share with
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  each other to get their opinion because nobody
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  want to give misinformation because that misinformation
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  will come to a bad interaction. And that bull
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  to you may be, I almost used the word bluefish,
• 23:06
  but. I don't know if you guys know what a bluefish
• 23:08
  means, but a bluefish is basically a single,
• 23:12
  it's like a unicorn, a beautiful, a single beautiful
• 23:15
  woman. A bluefish is a single beautiful gentleman
• 23:17
  that get those invites to parties where it's
• 23:20
  all about just coming, having fun, looking forward
• 23:24
  to the next party. That bullet of substance,
• 23:27
  he has more than just the BBC, the physical to
• 23:31
  bring along with the package. He want to bring
• 23:33
  in time, consistency, leadership. Responsibility,
• 23:36
  protection, wisdom. He has a big bag to offer,
• 23:41
  and you have to soak it up within sharing. But
• 23:46
  I'm not trying to go off on a rant. I want to
• 23:49
  just base off my experiences. And I did a lot
• 23:53
  of reading, talk with my brothers. I put everything
• 23:57
  in practice. And also, you got to go all the
• 24:00
  way back to the basics. Be a good person, you
• 24:03
  know. Plan to see you being a good person. You'll
• 24:05
  grow to be a good young man. You'll grow to be
• 24:07
  a great gentleman. And it just elevates to being
• 24:10
  a good bull with the right people that you surround
• 24:12
  yourself with. Be comfortable to walk away from
• 24:16
  a situation that's too much conflict and chaos.
• 24:19
  All bulls are not welcome in certain positions.
• 24:23
  Certain house parties or events is not for a
• 24:27
  bull. So you don't have to stay because you're
• 24:30
  a bull. You want to be welcome here or have your
• 24:36
  reputation put out there, that's your spot, that's
• 24:40
  your place. No, it's not for you. Go where you're
• 24:43
  welcome and where you're wanted, where you're
• 24:44
  praised. And those doors will continue to open
• 24:48
  for you. It's like a tree, you know. Those branches
• 24:52
  will branch out. But you just take that one fuck
• 24:56
  up, they chopping that tree down. I don't want
• 24:59
  to take it off on a long tangent with you guys,
• 25:02
  but it's just all about being good, being a good
• 25:04
  person, surrounding yourself with the right people.
• 25:08
  The couples will also, they will humble you,
• 25:12
  you know, and I hope they would with their honesty,
• 25:16
  and just keep that journey going. If you don't
• 25:20
  have the answers, seek the answers. You know,
• 25:22
  you will be okay. Go ahead, brother. Yeah, I
• 25:26
  would say, you know what I did? I love that question.
• 25:30
  I wrote down like five or six things that I said,
• 25:36
  this is what I want to be known for. So I wrote
• 25:40
  down integrity. I wrote down keeping my word.
• 25:43
  I wrote down delivering the dick. I wrote down
• 25:47
  five. It was a while ago. I need to go back and
• 25:50
  find that. But I actually said, well, what do
• 25:53
  you want to be known for? Because I think it
• 25:55
  was pagan that was like, what was it? Your character
• 25:59
  is who you are, right? But your reputation is
• 26:03
  what people think and say about you. So I wrote
• 26:06
  down a few things that I said, this is what I
• 26:08
  want people to say about Socrates. And then I
• 26:13
  said, how do I live into that? So I wanted integrity.
• 26:17
  And what I realized, the biggest thing about
• 26:19
  integrity is about reserving your word. Like,
• 26:24
  don't give it out all the time. I promise I'm
• 26:25
  going to do this. I will be there. You don't
• 26:28
  know what comes up. You don't know if you're
• 26:30
  going to, you know, you might get bubble guts,
• 26:32
  you know what I mean, in the middle of something.
• 26:34
  You don't know if your wife needs to be tended
• 26:36
  to, something else comes up. You know, so I don't,
• 26:39
  I try not to promise too much. But if I do say
• 26:42
  I'm going to keep my word, then I'm going to
• 26:44
  keep my word. So. So. that's, that's my thing.
• 26:53
  I really kind of look forward to like, who do
• 26:56
  I want to be? What do I want people saying about
• 26:59
  me? And I've made mistakes. I know I'm, I'm a
• 27:02
  definitely a squirrel type person where I have
• 27:05
  ADHD than a motherfucker. And I'll be like, Oh,
• 27:08
  over here, over there. What's going on? Oh, damn.
• 27:10
  That's an app. Look at that booty. You know?
• 27:11
  So, um, for me, I, every time I came, I said,
• 27:15
  well, what one do I want to work on? Every time
• 27:17
  I come to splash or go to a, a, an event or house
• 27:20
  party, Mommy, what are we working on? And she'll
• 27:23
  remind me, you need to dip this right, you know.
• 27:26
  And I'll say, okay, you know, stop being a squirrel,
• 27:29
  stay focused, eye contact, those kind of things.
• 27:32
  So I would really ask yourself, who do you want
• 27:35
  to be known as? And go from there. So great question.
• 27:40
  We had another one. I guess this question would
• 27:44
  go near towards couple. And they wouldn't preface
• 27:47
  it by saying, like, this isn't, you know, a ghost,
• 27:50
  like. diamond news or king's fetishes whatever
• 27:52
  they agree upon um i guess what advice can you
• 27:58
  give couples is one part of the couple is free
• 28:05
  to do whatever but the other part is not because
• 28:09
  of other other person's insecurity or feel right
• 28:12
  reason i asked that because i had chatted to
• 28:15
  couples and you know, and I like to ask questions,
• 28:20
  right? And I would ask, usually, you know, a
• 28:23
  woman, I'm not saying this is specific for women,
• 28:25
  this is, but from my experience, right, I've
• 28:28
  talked to a woman, she's hot white and you know,
• 28:30
  whatever, right? And sometimes I ask her husband,
• 28:33
  like, you know, hey, do you play? You know, do
• 28:35
  you play as well? And they have this, well, they
• 28:38
  have this look that we're a little, like, I want
• 28:40
  to, but I can't. You know? They kind of look
• 28:45
  at the wife's end and all of a sudden the wife
• 28:47
  is like, ah, you know. But like I said, husbands
• 28:49
  can do the same thing. That's my experience.
• 28:51
  I don't want to make this simply based off of
• 28:53
  what it is, right? So, you know, the wife will
• 28:57
  say, oh, I'm just not raised to that. I'm just
• 29:00
  not, you know, not comfortable with it. Which
• 29:02
  I understand in the beginning, but like, you
• 29:03
  know, they say, hey, we've been doing this for
• 29:05
  five, six, seven, eight years. And it seems like
• 29:07
  they stay uncomfortable with it for that long,
• 29:11
  right? But the husband. seems to want to do it
• 29:15
  but because of the white's feelings they can't
• 29:19
  explore they can't do what they want to do as
• 29:23
  well so i guess my question is like in situations
• 29:26
  like though what advice can you give well i guess
• 29:31
  what advice can you give those couples where
• 29:33
  to try to i guess ease those insecurities or
• 29:37
  ease those feelings um so that both parties can
• 29:45
  So let me repeat the question. So the question
• 29:47
  is, when you have a couple and one of the half
• 29:52
  of the couple is free to do whatever they want
• 29:55
  or their agreement to do, but the other part
• 29:58
  of the couple, male or female, they're restricted
• 30:01
  in some way because of the insecurities of the
• 30:02
  other. And you're asking, how do we ease their
• 30:05
  concerns about that? Okay. enjoy whatever dynamic
• 30:17
  that they want to experience that's a really
• 30:21
  amazing question close to that's a really interesting
• 30:25
  question and i'm going to speak about it in the
• 30:28
  terms of this particular lifestyle that we live
• 30:30
  because i see it come up a lot usually when a
• 30:35
  couple enters this portion of the lifestyle most
• 30:38
  cases it's the husband who brought it up first
• 30:40
  right And when he brings it up the first time,
• 30:44
  the wife usually has one of like three initial
• 30:48
  reactions, right? Oh, yeah, you want me to be
• 30:51
  with other men. Do you love me as much as you
• 30:54
  say you do? If you did, how could you want me
• 30:57
  to do this? The second reaction is, how do I
• 31:01
  know you're not going to use this against me
• 31:03
  if I do it? Like, how do I know you're not? Because
• 31:06
  once I do it, I can't undo it. And how do I know
• 31:09
  you're not going to weaponize it against me?
• 31:11
  And the third possible reaction is, is this a
• 31:14
  ploy for you to fuck other women? And so that
• 31:18
  initial conversation, most husbands are like,
• 31:21
  no, it's not a ploy. So already you've taken
• 31:25
  off the table your desire in other women. And
• 31:28
  so, like you said, sometime down the road, how
• 31:32
  do you then reintroduce that back to being on
• 31:34
  the table when you've already told her that it
• 31:37
  has nothing to do with that? That you entering
• 31:40
  this lifestyle has nothing to do with opening
• 31:42
  the door for you to play with other women. Now,
• 31:45
  I get why the husband say, no, that's not an
• 31:48
  interest of mine because you're trying to make
• 31:51
  her feel comfortable with what you're hoping
• 31:53
  to do. But with that being said, and I'm sure
• 31:58
  my other brothers are going to speak on this,
• 31:59
  maybe that's something they should revisit, you
• 32:04
  know, every so often and have that conversation
• 32:06
  because just because he didn't. have an interest
• 32:09
  in that then doesn't mean that it doesn't change
• 32:12
  you know i'm saying so you know that communication
• 32:17
  is going to be a common thread in this answer
• 32:20
  is for them to kind of have that open and honest
• 32:24
  conversation and then like what does he do when
• 32:29
  he tries to have that conversation because it's
• 32:31
  not going to be an easy conversation because
• 32:32
  what does he do when he tries to bring it up
• 32:34
  and she just shoots it down right away like How
• 32:38
  much does he fight for that? You know what I'm
• 32:41
  saying? Like, how much does he fight for, hey,
• 32:43
  I should be able to do this thing? So I don't
• 32:48
  think that there is an easy answer because of
• 32:51
  what was set up in the beginning. I mean, would
• 32:55
  she had agreed to do it if he was honest when
• 32:58
  she had that initial reaction? Like, you know,
• 33:01
  that's not what I want now, but I'm not saying
• 33:03
  that that might not change in the future. Because
• 33:06
  that might cause her to shut down and not even
• 33:07
  want to explore it if she knows that that's an
• 33:10
  option that it could take. So I think it's a
• 33:13
  tricky position for the husbands to be in because
• 33:15
  of how things start off. But it definitely requires
• 33:20
  some honest conversation without attacking the
• 33:26
  other or being defensive about it and finding
• 33:28
  out the why, not just the fact that it's something
• 33:32
  that they want to do. So that's kind of what
• 33:35
  I'll... start off with is how they get to that
• 33:38
  point in the context of this lifestyle. Hell,
• 33:41
  you answer the damn question. I got to say, I'm
• 33:47
  very disappointed because I was looking forward
• 33:49
  to a fight with Mike just now. And I feel like
• 33:56
  he took this away from me intentionally because
• 33:58
  we... We've had endless fights over this same
• 34:03
  thing. So I'm going to start off by just voicing
• 34:07
  my disappointment. We'll talk later. Actually,
• 34:10
  I took into account what you said because you're
• 34:13
  the one that got me to think about revisiting
• 34:15
  the conversation later, even though they initially
• 34:18
  said something. Just because you say it that
• 34:20
  first time doesn't mean that it can't be approached.
• 34:25
  down the line. So that, I got that from y 'all.
• 34:30
  Y 'all want to hold hands and walk in the moonlight?
• 34:35
  Yeah, that's beautiful. We all, we all fight.
• 34:40
  We all fight, and then there's times, especially
• 34:42
  me and P, being able to fight, and there's times
• 34:44
  I got to mute the phone when I know I'm wrong
• 34:46
  because I'm laughing that he got me. But I'm
• 34:48
  not going to fucking admit that. And then later
• 34:51
  on, I'll take the shit he told me and be telling
• 34:53
  somebody, man, you know something. Like, I came
• 34:57
  up with that shit myself. So respect. We all
• 35:00
  do it. But to answer your question, when you
• 35:05
  have a situation where you have one partner,
• 35:08
  who was unfulfilled and one partner who's able
• 35:11
  to play. And now the problem is over time that
• 35:16
  husband and wife starts to build up this resentment
• 35:19
  toward their person. So what can you do or what
• 35:23
  can a bull do for them? Nothing. There's a flaw
• 35:25
  in the matrix. All right. You're dealing with
• 35:28
  a defective situation and it doesn't matter what
• 35:34
  the excuse. the husband and wife tried to offer,
• 35:38
  it comes down to this. Growth is always, if something's
• 35:44
  not growing, it's dying. And in a situation...
• 35:48
  They stole my shit. They stole my shit. Yeah,
• 35:51
  yeah, listen. We all talk all the time, you know.
• 35:54
  We talk about this stuff on the regular basis.
• 35:56
  I'm starting to run from that. I got to Google
• 35:58
  some other stuff back there. I ain't gonna watch
• 36:01
  it. So the fact is they're still working through
• 36:13
  some shit. And the thing about the lifestyle
• 36:15
  is the one thing I think a lot of people don't
• 36:18
  understand within the lifestyle is when you have
• 36:21
  two people in a relationship, every time they
• 36:23
  introduce something new to the relationship,
• 36:25
  even within the lifestyle, you have a brand new
• 36:28
  relationship. Because before you get into the
• 36:31
  lifestyle, you spend X amount of time with this
• 36:33
  person. You understand their habits, their needs,
• 36:35
  their desires, all of these things. The second
• 36:38
  they see you make out with somebody else now,
• 36:40
  they haven't had years to deal with that emotionally
• 36:44
  or mentally. So now there's a new sensation that
• 36:47
  they have to get used to dealing with. All right.
• 36:49
  When they go from one level to the next level,
• 36:52
  each level, most people will just go to that
• 36:54
  level and just assume, oh, I know this person.
• 36:58
  The second you introduce another person or another
• 37:00
  sexual situation into your relationship, it's
• 37:04
  a brand new relationship. It's not the same as
• 37:08
  it was yesterday. And you don't know that person.
• 37:10
  You don't know your spouse of 30 fucking years
• 37:13
  until you see him do something with somebody
• 37:16
  else because you don't have 30 years of experience
• 37:18
  watching them do something. You don't have 30
• 37:21
  years of adjusting your mentality or emotions.
• 37:25
  So going back to what you said, oftentimes you
• 37:30
  have this place where that couple decide to pause.
• 37:34
  Every bull has seen a husband or had a husband
• 37:39
  say, man, I wish I could play, but, you know,
• 37:42
  she can't take it. Or, oh, man, I can't get caught
• 37:46
  looking at a nice ass while she's over there
• 37:49
  with three dicks in her. You know what I'm saying?
• 37:52
  Like, we've seen it. You know, we've all seen
• 37:54
  it happen. And on the other side of that. I've
• 37:56
  seen the wife who's like, oh, I only love my
• 38:00
  husband's dick while he's getting his balls tickled
• 38:03
  by three women. Well, he's the only cock in the
• 38:06
  world. You've been coming to parties for 10 years
• 38:10
  and that's the only dick. No, you're smart enough
• 38:13
  to cater to his fragile ego. So there's a flaw
• 38:19
  there. So for me, I'm not about to jump in that
• 38:23
  shit. Like, as soon as he starts saying that,
• 38:25
  I'm like, yeah, that sucks for you, buddy. Or,
• 38:27
  hey, bro, you think you can talk to my wife about
• 38:30
  maybe see if she'll, you know, consider having.
• 38:34
  Hell no, I'm not talking to your wife about.
• 38:36
  Then she ain't going to suck my dick. No. You're
• 38:40
  real, pal. Got it. I could go real quick because
• 38:49
  typical fashion, Mr. Mocha said everything I
• 38:52
  was going to say. As soon as I heard the question,
• 38:54
  and I don't think this was your question, you
• 38:56
  were just saying, how can couples deal with it?
• 38:58
  But since this is about how bulls interact. No,
• 39:07
  it's actually great. This is perfect. Yeah, I'm
• 39:11
  acknowledging, though, that this isn't your question,
• 39:13
  but I heard that question and immediately thought,
• 39:16
  that's not my business. I'm a third. My only
• 39:22
  job, the way I look at it, is I need to add positivity
• 39:25
  to your relationship. I am not here to be here
• 39:29
  a moment after you want me gone. I'm not here
• 39:32
  to call your wife and talk to her any more than
• 39:35
  you guys want. I'm here to add something. You
• 39:38
  shouldn't be thinking Pagan and like, oh, that's
• 39:40
  a smile. Oh, he, okay, yeah. I agree with him.
• 39:45
  This is not my department. But wherever this
• 39:49
  couple is at, I'm going to meet you there. If
• 39:51
  this week you're in this place where he's like,
• 39:54
  man, I wish I could play, I'll meet you there.
• 39:57
  I've learned, though, because we've had so much
• 39:59
  experience, that's not where they're going to
• 40:01
  be a year from now, two years from now, five
• 40:03
  years from now. They're going to figure shit
• 40:04
  out, and then I'm going to meet you there when
• 40:06
  you're at that point. But it's not up to me to
• 40:09
  help, like, put an injection in your relationship
• 40:11
  or move things along, because like Mr. Molkin
• 40:14
  said, then, you know, she's not sucking my dick.
• 40:17
  To me, that is not the bull's role, but I do
• 40:21
  agree with you in the whole premise of this question.
• 40:23
  It's a common thing, but it's for the couples
• 40:26
  to figure out, and then I just get in where I
• 40:28
  fit in. You know, I'm going to make it easy for
• 40:34
  you guys. My response is going to be whatever
• 40:37
  he just said, whatever he just said, and whatever
• 40:40
  he just said. No, like I said, I use my phone
• 40:43
  to push. We should have let Demetri go first.
• 40:46
  You get to next first on everything. Well, I
• 40:49
  will. My response to this, I suck at being a
• 40:53
  referee. And I do believe that when that couple
• 40:59
  try to bring you into that, or ask for your opinion,
• 41:02
  like you said, I step back and go, whoa, that's
• 41:06
  a conversation between you two. Because we do
• 41:09
  know the lifestyle, it evolves. Whatever journey
• 41:12
  you start off with is going to change. It's not
• 41:15
  a yearning thing. It's not an event thing. It's
• 41:17
  an everyday thing because people have thought
• 41:19
  processes and you have whatever kinks you may
• 41:22
  be. But, again, it goes back to you have to have
• 41:25
  those hard conversations. And normally with a
• 41:29
  husband, he can play that scenario. I didn't
• 41:33
  say it because he knows his wife based off of
• 41:35
  feelings. And I think he don't ask them because
• 41:39
  he's trying to protect them. And she tried to
• 41:43
  avoid him because she also tried to protect herself
• 41:46
  as well. No woman want to feel she's losing her
• 41:51
  man by seeing what her man's being pleased by
• 41:53
  another woman. Because she go, oh, I'm proud
• 41:56
  of you, baby. But he didn't make that sign with
• 41:59
  me. He didn't get that trigger with me. I mean,
• 42:03
  he came with her. You know, it's going to always
• 42:05
  be something. Always going to be something. For
• 42:11
  a couple, for me, each and every event, third
• 42:17
  party, convention, whatever may happen, they
• 42:20
  should always have to have a conversation after
• 42:22
  the fact. That pillow talk, that reclaim. Assure
• 42:27
  your lady or assure your husband that you are
• 42:30
  her star cheerleader, your star teammate, and
• 42:33
  you're not going nowhere. It's going to be a
• 42:35
  constant assurance, no matter what. It's just
• 42:39
  going to be a constant assurance. I don't give
• 42:42
  a damn how big the batch of flowers are. Go get
• 42:45
  a bigger one because it's going to always be
• 42:47
  that. There's not really a true answer or response
• 42:53
  because, again, it's the lifestyle. It grows
• 42:55
  and things change, you know. And for a guy, our
• 43:04
  window is pretty much, it closes as... Time goes
• 43:07
  with the lifestyle community, especially as a
• 43:09
  couple. Because as you know, sometimes it's hard
• 43:12
  to mesh with another couple. So you really don't
• 43:16
  want to take one for the team. But if that guy
• 43:19
  wants to play, hey, baby, you go, I'm not taking
• 43:24
  one for the team. You start seeing the excuses.
• 43:26
  And once the other excuses, then you start seeing
• 43:28
  the attitude, the anger, the issues. And now
• 43:31
  you just want to go into that box of avoidance.
• 43:34
  You go, you know what? I'd rather just stay right
• 43:39
  here and avoid that whole drama, I'm going to
• 43:43
  say from the husband's point of view, to protect
• 43:46
  my wife's feelings. But again, they got to have
• 43:49
  that hard conversation. And it's not going to
• 43:51
  be a one and done. That's going to be an everyday
• 43:54
  thing that's between them. A bull is there to
• 43:59
  enhance a relationship, not to try to change
• 44:03
  it and be something that, you know. He's not
• 44:06
  a husband can speak to me about something like
• 44:09
  that. And, but I will quickly tell him though,
• 44:12
  I would happy wife, happy life, brother. All
• 44:15
  right. You need to leave this one alone. If this
• 44:19
  could go sour, this is go to the left real, real
• 44:22
  quick. And what you have built up through evolution
• 44:26
  for the last 20 or 30 years can be down the drain
• 44:29
  in one conversation. All right. So again, we're
• 44:33
  there to enhance your relationship. Right? That's
• 44:37
  it. Yes, sir. I'm sorry, but you had a question.
• 44:40
  Yeah, over that, he mentioned, you know, it's
• 44:43
  not growing, it's dying. So if you're going to
• 44:47
  add to a relationship, you know, there's a lot
• 44:49
  of communication that needs to be there. And
• 44:52
  I've been in a couple relationships, and now
• 44:55
  I'm on the third, the boy toy type shit. I'm
• 44:59
  stuffed. And I encourage her more. I enjoy that
• 45:02
  more because it's a little communication. I communicate
• 45:06
  your role as a man with a husband, right? Just
• 45:08
  as a woman with women like too. So it goes hand
• 45:11
  in hand and little boundaries established in
• 45:14
  the beginning, but over time, those boundaries
• 45:16
  change. And that's part of the communication
• 45:18
  because you can see drama start. You can see
• 45:23
  it start. You've even helped them alleviate.
• 45:26
  It gets to a certain point, you back away from
• 45:28
  a daughter count to make sure it stays in a healthy
• 45:30
  vibe. I've, yes, I've been several types of different
• 45:34
  situations. And this one now is the most comfortable
• 45:36
  now. I have a good time. Travel too, you know,
• 45:40
  do all that stuff together. And even, even the
• 45:42
  wedding, the wedding of their daughter came along.
• 45:44
  And if I read down, it was like the business
• 45:46
  associate. I hang out with him. I said, I'm good.
• 45:48
  I got him. Can't do that. You know, but you know,
• 45:53
  they say, okay, it's cool. I'm not coming with
• 45:55
  that. But you know, listen to that. So cookouts,
• 45:57
  things like that. When you find your little niche,
• 46:00
  your spot. Then it works well. And you can understand
• 46:03
  how jealousy can start. And you just alleviate
• 46:07
  by nipping the bud as soon as you see it started.
• 46:09
  If you can't help it, end it. So are you in a
• 46:13
  throuple or you guys are just tight with this
• 46:16
  couple? Yeah, I'm throuple. Okay. Here at Slash,
• 46:18
  I'm in a throuple. Welcome to the brotherhood.
• 46:23
  In a sense that, you know, it's like because
• 46:27
  I'm from Cali, I live here. And I go bi -coastal.
• 46:31
  I have a certain type of mentality. I know in
• 46:33
  certain demographics in the United States, like
• 46:35
  I say, certain areas, but more the Pacific Northwest,
• 46:39
  there's not a lot of real interracial couples.
• 46:42
  So dudes feel like that couple is theirs. Like,
• 46:46
  that's mine. So if you're up in like Seattle
• 46:48
  or something and you see a couple, a dude might
• 46:50
  be like, oh, that's mine. Like, boars. Shit.
• 46:53
  That's his wife. No, they're both mine. Because
• 46:56
  I'm going to come in and take that front. And
• 46:57
  his small little opportunity he has, he sees
• 47:00
  me as a threat. Versus living in town. Wide open.
• 47:04
  Yeah. In the Bay Area, San Francisco, Oakland.
• 47:07
  You would think those liberal area United States
• 47:10
  would have the best type of scene. It's trash.
• 47:13
  I got a group out there. I'm on the BBC and GA.
• 47:16
  I got 3 ,000 movies in the group. I got 120 in
• 47:19
  the area. That tells you something right there.
• 47:23
  Politics is the lifestyle. The whole thing's
• 47:25
  a mission when it comes to what you see. Yeah,
• 47:29
  we're in the Pacific Northwest, and it's different.
• 47:32
  That's all I'll say. I want to say something
• 47:35
  real quick, and then we have another question.
• 47:37
  I'm going to go nerdy with it. So most of the
• 47:42
  time when these gentlemen, when their thought
• 47:46
  process is common stuff, there's a... Small group
• 47:52
  of women are people going through a process of
• 47:55
  getting to know each other. And maybe the wife
• 47:59
  is saying, well, I don't want to play daddy.
• 48:01
  You go ahead. And she really does. She just doesn't
• 48:04
  know how to say it. There's a small bit of people
• 48:09
  that have other issues. Problem is, you don't
• 48:13
  know which ones they are. So there might be little
• 48:18
  small. what I would say, small percentages of
• 48:24
  different situations where it would have been
• 48:27
  okay to say something. Problem is, you don't
• 48:29
  know. And then you end up saying something, trying
• 48:32
  to comfort them, and you done made it worse.
• 48:35
  Like Mr. Mocha said, well, no, I'm not getting
• 48:38
  my dicks up because I said something. So really,
• 48:40
  you just want to stay away. You just want to
• 48:44
  say, hey, you know. Do your thing. Move on. Because
• 48:47
  you can't tell the difference between those that
• 48:49
  really could use some good advice to get past
• 48:52
  it. But when one person is insecure, there's
• 48:56
  nothing you can do about their insecurity. There's
• 48:58
  nothing you can say. It might have been, you
• 49:01
  know, like I had an experience when I first got
• 49:04
  in. I ran into a size queen. I said how big I
• 49:10
  am. She needed one inch more. And I was like,
• 49:12
  well, damn, you know, and hit me for a minute.
• 49:15
  You know, there was nothing anybody could do
• 49:19
  but me. I had to go out there and figure that
• 49:21
  part out. So, you know, if it's based on because
• 49:24
  I've seen those situations where he really wants
• 49:28
  to, you know, he messed up in the past. Now she's
• 49:32
  doesn't trust him. You know. And now she's insecure
• 49:37
  because, well, you've broken your trust. You've
• 49:40
  broken our trust. And you've cheated on me. So
• 49:43
  I don't feel comfortable. But she's out here,
• 49:46
  literally, you know, they are tight hanger. So
• 49:51
  you just have to stay away from that. The bottom
• 49:54
  line is she is broken. Because if you're not
• 49:58
  comfortable enough to tell your mate the truth,
• 50:00
  and you're telling some random citizen who fucking
• 50:03
  her on the weekends. Y 'all shit ain't together.
• 50:06
  There's nothing I should be able to tell some
• 50:07
  person I'm sleeping with that I can't tell my
• 50:10
  wife. Man, I wish my wife would let me get my
• 50:13
  dick. Their shit's not together. So what's going
• 50:17
  to happen is either they will stalemate, they
• 50:20
  will stall out in the lifestyle. And you see
• 50:22
  it all the time where their relationship, there's
• 50:26
  people who their relationship is the exact same
• 50:29
  it was, the way they play in their lifestyle
• 50:31
  is the exact same as it was when they first got
• 50:32
  in. Anybody who's been in lifestyle for a long
• 50:35
  time, you learn. What you consider kinky or freaky
• 50:43
  or wild now is something that you when you, you
• 50:50
  know, before you got into lifestyle, you like,
• 50:52
  holy shit, there's some nasty, you know, and
• 50:55
  and that's because from the day you got into
• 50:58
  it to now. you've grown and grown and grown and
• 51:01
  grown and grown, and all of these things have
• 51:03
  happened. So if you see somebody in lifestyle
• 51:04
  whose shit is the same place it was 10 years
• 51:07
  ago when you started, and there's two people
• 51:09
  in that relationship, somebody is not completely
• 51:12
  satisfied. And as bulls, we hear it, we see it.
• 51:20
  I've had a wife whispering to me when the husband
• 51:26
  goes to get us towels and drinks, And then when
• 51:29
  she goes to clean up, he's whispering something
• 51:31
  else to me. And they're both fucking complaining
• 51:35
  about each other. And I'm like, they're not on
• 51:39
  the same page. Like, I'm a bull, not a therapist.
• 51:43
  I mean, as a bull, a lot of times you do wind
• 51:46
  up being a therapist. You know, you do, but there's
• 51:51
  limitations to where your therapy is. You know
• 51:54
  what I mean? There's a line, especially if I'm
• 51:57
  sleeping with her. Now, if it's somebody who
• 51:59
  I'm not fucking, okay, cool, y 'all want to talk,
• 52:01
  let's talk. But it gets a little weird if I'm
• 52:04
  having sex with your wife, and then... y 'all
• 52:08
  both want me to play therapist because I don't
• 52:10
  know. I mean, I don't want to be biased, but
• 52:12
  the dick, he don't, I don't, I don't know. You
• 52:15
  know? So, and I'm joking about that by the way.
• 52:21
  What was your question? So you're meeting somebody
• 52:26
  for the first time and you're asking questions
• 52:29
  and getting to know them. What, what can a woman
• 52:34
  do? Or I guess a couple too, but. to if you're
• 52:40
  not really feeling it you're not meshing and
• 52:43
  you don't actually want to have sex although
• 52:47
  I mean he's a handsome nice guy and everything
• 52:50
  but you're just not feeling it what's a good
• 52:53
  way to respectfully and you know not harming
• 52:58
  egos and stuff like that convey that and on the
• 53:02
  other side what cues do you guys as bulls look
• 53:07
  for that you're like oh wait a second i don't
• 53:10
  know if she wants to because she said this or
• 53:13
  she did this yeah dimitri why don't you go first
• 53:18
  uh dimitri oh man i'm sorry um i'm sorry it's
• 53:31
  just so i just When people ask questions, I just
• 53:34
  think about scenarios and situations that I've
• 53:36
  been in. Once you start talking, my mind went
• 53:40
  to, I wish you would have told me that shit before
• 53:42
  I bought that expensive ass dick pill. Like...
• 53:50
  Like, hey. Now I'm sitting here like, hey. But,
• 53:58
  you know, my big ego, I want my money back. That's
• 54:01
  what I want. Well, I guess I'll just use this
• 54:04
  thing for a coat hanger. You know, we got to
• 54:08
  get that phone out and start calling. No. Yeah,
• 54:13
  it's, I don't know. I just, again. I'm not shy
• 54:18
  about my truth. And really, that's what I thought
• 54:20
  because I was like, God damn it. That shit really
• 54:22
  did happen to me. And I told a whole bunch of
• 54:25
  people no because there's a new person there.
• 54:27
  She go, you know, it was great meeting you, but
• 54:30
  I'm not ready. And my mind like, it's okay, bitch.
• 54:34
  You know, it's like one of those moments. But
• 54:38
  put the truth out there. I would say be direct
• 54:44
  and be honest about it. Hey, let's just meet.
• 54:46
  You know, just leave it as let's just meet because
• 54:50
  you had that conversation. It may have been a
• 54:52
  great time. And you may change your mind about
• 54:57
  just meeting two plates instead of planning on
• 55:00
  playing and then it turns into just a meet. You
• 55:03
  know, it could be a disappointment or it could
• 55:05
  be a reward for that guy. So what I do really,
• 55:10
  because also I changed my mind. I don't mind
• 55:14
  saying no. And I don't mind saying, hey, I don't
• 55:17
  think you're ready or I don't think I'm ready.
• 55:19
  And I'm okay with saying, I hope there'll be
• 55:23
  another time. But just to make it just cut and
• 55:27
  dry, if you're trying to say you're just not
• 55:30
  interested but he's a great person, he may not
• 55:32
  be for you, just put that out there. Just be
• 55:35
  honest. Leave kids, keep it simple, stupid. Leave
• 55:40
  no room for miscommunication and misunderstanding.
• 55:42
  I had a great time at this moment, but you may
• 55:45
  not be the person for me or have the right energy
• 55:46
  for me because nobody want to waste their time.
• 55:50
  And just leave like that. He will be okay, you
• 55:53
  know. He'll make that 25 bucks back. And his
• 55:58
  ego will be healed. So just put the truth out.
• 56:01
  Nothing else to drag about it. That quality boy
• 56:05
  that we always talk about, that quality boy,
• 56:09
  he'll be able to take rejection. He will. And
• 56:13
  that good bull will already let you know even
• 56:15
  before you have that meet and greet that, look,
• 56:18
  if you don't like what you see when I get there
• 56:21
  or if you don't like what I'm saying, by all
• 56:24
  means, I don't want to waste your time. You don't
• 56:27
  want to waste mine. So by all means, if you don't
• 56:30
  like what you see or hear, he'll let me know.
• 56:32
  It's not a problem. It's not a problem. There
• 56:34
  was an incident yesterday where I was going to
• 56:39
  sit down with a very beautiful woman. I was like,
• 56:42
  I'm feeling her, but I'm not feeling her right
• 56:44
  now. So I was like, let's just do it later. And
• 56:48
  to be honest with you, I was really nervous in
• 56:50
  saying that. For a second, I was like, I don't
• 56:54
  know if I should say this. But I want to, I think
• 56:57
  the second part of your question is where we
• 56:59
  get in trouble. You can, my wife uses a very
• 57:03
  beautiful sandwich method. She'll say, you know,
• 57:05
  it's very, I really appreciate the fact you had
• 57:07
  the bravery to come up and talk to me. She'll
• 57:10
  acknowledge something positive. Or you're a very
• 57:12
  handsome man. Thank you so much. Or, wow, I really
• 57:15
  appreciate the time that you to come. You know,
• 57:18
  I'm just, I'm not interested. Or I don't want
• 57:21
  to, I can't give you 100 % and I don't want to
• 57:24
  stand in the way of you getting 100 % with someone
• 57:28
  else. So, and then she'll go all the way. If
• 57:32
  he was a cool guy and he handled it right, she'll
• 57:34
  go as far as trying to connect him with somebody
• 57:36
  else. But that's just her. But you can just end
• 57:38
  it with another compliment. You know, hey, thank
• 57:41
  you so much for taking the time. Right. But the
• 57:44
  second part is, how do I do it without offending
• 57:47
  them, upsetting them? Like you said, you got
• 57:50
  to look for quality bulls, quality men, quality
• 57:53
  people, period. Because you can't control that.
• 57:56
  They're going to get offended. They're going
• 57:57
  to get upset. They're going to get mad. Or even
• 58:00
  us quality bulls sometimes like, dang it, you
• 58:03
  know. We're going to be respectful to you. Thank
• 58:06
  you for your time. We're going to handle it properly.
• 58:08
  But some guys are just fragile. Some guys are
• 58:12
  not experienced enough. Some guys have trauma
• 58:15
  like the rest of us. And, you know, their daddy
• 58:18
  slapped them too much when they was 12. And now
• 58:21
  all of a sudden they don't have any self -confidence.
• 58:23
  They're here trying to get it. You know, it just
• 58:25
  depends. So if you're nice and respectful and
• 58:29
  he gets upset, just know it's not you. Right?
• 58:33
  Use the sandwich method like my wife does, and
• 58:36
  she does really put a lot of work into crafting
• 58:40
  her responses to people that come up to her.
• 58:44
  You know, she couches it with a lot of compliments
• 58:47
  because, you know, it's rare. But if you're respectful
• 58:52
  and they do get upset or take it the wrong way,
• 58:55
  then you just walk away knowing you did what
• 58:56
  you needed to do. Speak on what Socrates just
• 59:01
  said. There's something that I like to utilize
• 59:04
  when I think through something. Is this a my
• 59:08
  problem or is this a them problem? Like you said,
• 59:12
  if you've been respectful, been pleasant, respectful,
• 59:18
  letting them down, you've handled your part.
• 59:22
  If they still take it, that's a them problem.
• 59:25
  You know what I'm saying? And unfortunately,
• 59:27
  you're going to encounter that. There's nothing
• 59:29
  that... anyone up here can tell you that's going
• 59:33
  to totally eliminate that some people out there
• 59:37
  just feel entitled some people out there lack
• 59:40
  self -awareness some people out there aren't
• 59:42
  able to read the room you know i'm saying some
• 59:45
  people out there aren't able to read your energy
• 59:47
  like you can think that you're being very definitive
• 59:50
  in what you're saying and it's just it's just
• 59:53
  like they're so fucked it they're missing all
• 59:56
  the signals i mean so Once it becomes a them
• 1:00:00
  problem and not a you problem, you can't even
• 1:00:03
  let that shit. For real. Like that's just being
• 1:00:06
  honest about it because some people just aren't
• 1:00:09
  going to get it. That's the reality of it. There's
• 1:00:13
  one aspect of your question I thought was really
• 1:00:15
  great, which is how do we pick up on signs and
• 1:00:22
  what do we do to try to intuit these things?
• 1:00:25
  In addition to that, I forgot to ask, what? What
• 1:00:30
  should we look for in the interaction with the
• 1:00:35
  bulls? What signs do you guys put off also? Where
• 1:00:39
  you're like, because I can see where you're,
• 1:00:41
  you know, well, I'm here to have sex. So I'm
• 1:00:43
  not going to say no to this woman. But obviously
• 1:00:45
  there's times when you're just not feeling it
• 1:00:49
  either. We do have one robot on the panel. Thank
• 1:00:55
  you for saying that. We are people. No, I did
• 1:01:00
  want to address what you're talking about, actually,
• 1:01:02
  on both sides. And I just think that, first of
• 1:01:04
  all, that question is a very emotionally intelligent
• 1:01:06
  question. Like, there's people, you know, like
• 1:01:14
  I'm looking at my brother, Mr. Mocha, and myself.
• 1:01:16
  We have no problem with being straight up with
• 1:01:20
  people. speaking candidly but not rudely is something
• 1:01:24
  that people like us have to be careful with.
• 1:01:27
  If you are a straightforward person, we all know,
• 1:01:29
  you know if you're like that. You've heard it
• 1:01:31
  from somebody. But you also need to then temper
• 1:01:34
  that with being kind, making sure you're not
• 1:01:38
  overly blunt with people. Most people are don't
• 1:01:42
  have our problem. Most people get by on. I'm
• 1:01:45
  not going to say anything. I'm just not going
• 1:01:47
  to engage in any conflict. I'm just going to
• 1:01:49
  say nice. So then if I want to say no to this
• 1:01:51
  guy, most people are not going to be honest.
• 1:01:54
  That's just the truth. Most people are going
• 1:01:56
  to say, oh, yeah, I got dinner with friends that
• 1:01:59
  time. But maybe later. That's how most people
• 1:02:03
  deal with conflict. That can lead to trouble
• 1:02:07
  because you later. Yeah, because then that guy's
• 1:02:10
  going to be like, what about after dinner? Because
• 1:02:12
  you just kicked a can down the road, but that
• 1:02:13
  can's going to be there. So there's a balance.
• 1:02:16
  But I'm not going to lie and say as straightforward
• 1:02:19
  as I am, if I can find an out where I don't have
• 1:02:22
  to tell you your breath stinks, I probably won't
• 1:02:27
  say your breath stinks. I will probably figure
• 1:02:30
  out some other kinder way to be like, this isn't
• 1:02:33
  for me. I'm not going to lie. But if it gets
• 1:02:35
  to the point where I have to be straight up,
• 1:02:37
  I do agree with that. But to your point about
• 1:02:40
  let's not get to that place, pick up on cues.
• 1:02:44
  If your breath stings, you might be able to pick
• 1:02:46
  up on cues when people lean back where they shouldn't
• 1:02:50
  have to tell you. And that's where learning body
• 1:02:53
  language. My brother Socrates is a student, and
• 1:02:56
  he's read several books on body language. And
• 1:02:59
  I had read a couple of them, and I got two more
• 1:03:01
  from him. These are things that, like, experienced,
• 1:03:04
  again, bulls and couples, because we all have
• 1:03:07
  the body language. So your question for males
• 1:03:09
  and couples is kind of the same. There's cues
• 1:03:12
  that people start to learn those things. It's
• 1:03:15
  out there. You can learn these things, and then
• 1:03:18
  you don't have to get to those. Because the last
• 1:03:21
  thing I'll say is sometimes no answer is a no
• 1:03:24
  answer. So when someone is, like, not responding
• 1:03:27
  or they're giving you negative vibes, if you
• 1:03:30
  can pick up on that, you're like, I get it. And
• 1:03:32
  you don't have to get to the point where you
• 1:03:33
  have to have that harder, I'm not interested.
• 1:03:40
  So first I would like to ask, when you're talking
• 1:03:45
  about, are you talking about this like in a couple?
• 1:03:48
  Like there's a, you know, you and your husband
• 1:03:51
  are together and then you decide at the end of
• 1:03:55
  the night you don't want to play with the guy?
• 1:03:57
  Because... I was leaning mostly in an environment
• 1:04:06
  like this. At first, you guys talked about, you
• 1:04:09
  know, let's meet, but not necessarily agree to
• 1:04:13
  play, which that makes total sense. And but like
• 1:04:19
  in a situation like this where the playbook is
• 1:04:23
  open and you're like, hmm, it's kind of interesting.
• 1:04:27
  Let's go talk to him or, you know, hope he comes
• 1:04:30
  up. And then it doesn't, you know, you just not
• 1:04:32
  feel it and everything. I mean, I can. interact
• 1:04:37
  with my husband and be like, you know, what do
• 1:04:39
  you think? And, you know, we can take each other
• 1:04:42
  out of the situation type of thing. But I was
• 1:04:44
  looking for a graceful way, you know. A graceful
• 1:04:47
  way to say no. Well, I was asking if you have
• 1:04:49
  a husband because that's, utilize him. You're
• 1:04:55
  not alone. You know, I always, me and Mike, one
• 1:04:58
  of our great debates is the couple and the bull.
• 1:05:01
  The couple, there's two of you. You're packed.
• 1:05:05
  You're a team. You're not a solo hunter. It's
• 1:05:08
  two of you. Your husband saying to you, saying
• 1:05:15
  you creating some kind of cooler signal with
• 1:05:17
  your husband, honey, I got to run to the bathroom,
• 1:05:19
  wink, wink, tap, tap. And then your husband can
• 1:05:22
  politely say, hey, you know, we enjoy, you know,
• 1:05:24
  you seem like a nice guy, but she's not interested.
• 1:05:27
  That way it pulls you out of the equation. You
• 1:05:29
  don't have to deal with the stress. He's got
• 1:05:31
  a job. We've got a job. My wife don't utilize
• 1:05:34
  me often, but when she does, I'm fucking Johnny
• 1:05:36
  on the spot. Appreciate you, buddy. I mean, I'm
• 1:05:39
  better than I used to be. I'm better. I'm better.
• 1:05:43
  I've learned. But, you know, you utilize him,
• 1:05:47
  and then also, you know, when it comes to guys,
• 1:05:50
  how you feel is not my problem. You're not entitled
• 1:05:55
  to my wife's pussy, just like no one's entitled
• 1:05:59
  to my penis. So that being said, as adults, If
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  we interact and you're not interested, you know,
• 1:06:07
  thank you very much, but I'm not interested.
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  If your feelings are hurt, you shouldn't be here.
• 1:06:14
  You're in the wrong place. If, you know, I've
• 1:06:17
  had to tell a guy at a party once, we got 24
• 1:06:21
  women here, two out of the 24 don't want to have
• 1:06:24
  sex with them, and he's acting like a fucking
• 1:06:26
  baby. Hey, come talk to me in the garage. You
• 1:06:30
  want me to kick you the fuck out? You think you're
• 1:06:32
  entitled to fuck these two women because your
• 1:06:35
  penis wants to fuck these? They have no opinion
• 1:06:39
  in this. Get it together or get out. That's how
• 1:06:46
  we should all look at it. Everybody's not attracted
• 1:06:49
  to me. Like, my arrogance has boundaries. I don't
• 1:06:55
  expect every woman to go, oh, shit, no. So that
• 1:06:58
  being said. If I approach someone and initiate
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  and you're not interested, I'm going to 100 %
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  respect that. And if a guy is too immature to
• 1:07:10
  respect that, that's not the guy you wanted to
• 1:07:12
  play with anyways. And I explained to a lot of
• 1:07:15
  these dudes, sometimes a woman will reject you
• 1:07:18
  not because she's not interested, but you don't
• 1:07:20
  know what's happening in her mind. You don't
• 1:07:22
  know what's happening with her body. You don't
• 1:07:24
  know what her and her husband just talked about.
• 1:07:27
  You don't know. you're missing so much information
• 1:07:30
  she may be overwhelmed because she has other
• 1:07:33
  commitments or she may just not be be comfortable
• 1:07:37
  because the first time she's seen you she may
• 1:07:40
  play with you in two splashes and go oh my god
• 1:07:42
  you know i was interested but i was nervous we
• 1:07:46
  never know why we're why we're being rejected
• 1:07:48
  and another thing i always say this is my motto
• 1:07:51
  i don't flirt with nobody i'm not trying to play
• 1:07:54
  with i don't play that game I'm polite to everyone.
• 1:07:58
  If I'm flirting with you, it's because I want
• 1:08:01
  to give it to you. Because we're in an environment
• 1:08:04
  where I think it's cruel to flirt with somebody
• 1:08:08
  that you have no interest in. Now, I've flirted
• 1:08:11
  with women three splashes ago and haven't played
• 1:08:13
  with them yet. But the intention is there. And
• 1:08:16
  as my wife, I always tell my wife, why are you
• 1:08:20
  fucking talking to that guy like that? You don't
• 1:08:22
  want to play with him. I didn't say don't talk
• 1:08:25
  to him. Why are you talking to him like that?
• 1:08:28
  Because you're being flirty. And then when he
• 1:08:31
  wants them, you're sending him mixed signals.
• 1:08:34
  We're grownups. Be grownups. You know, like it's,
• 1:08:38
  we're in a place where this is the easiest situation
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  to have sex. And, you know, we've had great conversations
• 1:08:45
  about rejection, experiencing it. How do I take
• 1:08:50
  rejection? You know, because if you don't take
• 1:08:53
  rejection well, and let's say, you know, you're
• 1:08:57
  a very nice lady and most women at some point
• 1:09:00
  have had sex with a dude in an environment like
• 1:09:02
  this that they didn't want to have sex with because
• 1:09:04
  they didn't know how to say no. She didn't have
• 1:09:06
  a good time. And this guy walked away thinking
• 1:09:07
  he, man, I laid it down. You know, and now you're
• 1:09:14
  running from this bastard for the next three
• 1:09:15
  splashes. You know, so you start learning how.
• 1:09:20
  Once you adjust your mentality and understand
• 1:09:23
  what is and what is not expected, what should
• 1:09:26
  be and what should not be expected, it makes
• 1:09:29
  that a lot simpler to handle. All right. I want
• 1:09:35
  to add something to that. That both parties can...
• 1:09:42
  Re -embolizing, which is an important thing too,
• 1:09:45
  right? Because as it happened to me where...
• 1:09:48
  I was approaching a couple and I was talking
• 1:09:50
  to them. And I can see the woman, whatever her
• 1:09:54
  mindset was, I don't know if she was interested
• 1:09:59
  or not, but her eyes were looking around like
• 1:10:02
  she was, you know, I can just tell that this
• 1:10:06
  was a demolition. So what I just said was, hey,
• 1:10:10
  I got to go, right? Let's continue this conversation
• 1:10:12
  later. That takes up the whole conversation.
• 1:10:15
  Whatever reason she had. What was the time thing?
• 1:10:18
  She wanted to meet somebody. She wanted to get
• 1:10:20
  away with me. Whatever the reason, I just saw
• 1:10:22
  that. And so what I'm saying is, if you notice
• 1:10:26
  that, you can just say that, you know, to prevent
• 1:10:30
  her from having to make that difficult decision.
• 1:10:33
  You can just say it from, like, you know, hey,
• 1:10:36
  you can make up something. Hey, I got a door.
• 1:10:39
  I got something, you know. Let's talk, like,
• 1:10:41
  right. So that way they don't have to go, you
• 1:10:43
  know, they don't have to. Stress over, man, I
• 1:10:46
  got to tell him no, or man, I got to tell him
• 1:10:48
  not right now, or man, I got to tell her or him
• 1:10:50
  or her or whatever the reason, right? You can
• 1:10:52
  make that decision for them, and it'll make things
• 1:10:54
  easier if you can take it. So my thing is reading
• 1:10:58
  Bionics is a very important weapon, right? Very
• 1:11:01
  important as well, right? Just look for the signals.
• 1:11:04
  They're looking around, looking at their husband.
• 1:11:05
  The guys up there on his watch, you know, they're
• 1:11:08
  trying to follow somebody. They're not engaged
• 1:11:09
  in the conversation pretty much, right? Tell
• 1:11:12
  them. We're still like, okay, maybe not now,
• 1:11:15
  maybe not interested at all. But guys, let me
• 1:11:18
  just stop this conversation. That's all I want.
• 1:11:20
  There's that universal look that they will look
• 1:11:23
  at each other simultaneously. I knew right then,
• 1:11:26
  stop talking, Brian. They just said right then,
• 1:11:30
  we're not interested. Without saying anything.
• 1:11:34
  That's a universal look. And that let's talk
• 1:11:36
  later, that's become the universal little phrase
• 1:11:40
  around here. I like to watch couples. I sit in
• 1:11:43
  a place and I just watch, you know? And when
• 1:11:46
  I hear that, oh, we'll talk later. Let's talk
• 1:11:48
  later. No, the fuck you're not. It's a done deal.
• 1:11:52
  You're not. It's being nice. Yeah, you're being
• 1:11:54
  nice. So, I mean, it is what it is. All right,
• 1:11:57
  well, I can go all day, but we do need to be
• 1:11:59
  constant in time. Anybody have any last final
• 1:12:02
  words, anything? I did. Oh, excuse me. Go ahead.
• 1:12:06
  One more question. You got it? Yeah, boom. All
• 1:12:10
  right. So, dick issue. So, I know we talk all
• 1:12:16
  day about this, right? But, what can both parties
• 1:12:20
  do, right? You talk with a couple, you hit it
• 1:12:24
  off, you go upstairs, your dick don't work. For
• 1:12:27
  whatever reason. Nargis, he got done playing,
• 1:12:30
  thought he was ready, right? Tired, dehydrated,
• 1:12:33
  for whatever reason, right? Because I think we've
• 1:12:36
  all been there. And the worst thing, when your
• 1:12:38
  dick not working. is a woman saying, what's wrong?
• 1:12:42
  Right? So now you're in your head thinking, fuck,
• 1:12:45
  I got to get my dick working somehow, right?
• 1:12:48
  Because I don't want her to think that she's
• 1:12:51
  the problem, right? Because now you're not putting
• 1:12:54
  up to that time, it's not you, it's me, right?
• 1:12:57
  So another thing, I don't want to put up a group
• 1:12:59
  chat and my dick don't work. You know, that's
• 1:13:04
  the second worst thing. But what can... Because
• 1:13:08
  at the same time, you don't want her to feel
• 1:13:10
  insecure. Like, man, what am I doing? I feel
• 1:13:14
  like this person is getting a rap off, right?
• 1:13:16
  You don't have nothing to do with them. So what
• 1:13:20
  can a guy do to help alleviate that situation
• 1:13:24
  to where the woman would not feel bad that the
• 1:13:27
  man isn't performing? Also, what can the man
• 1:13:35
  do to... I mean, what can a couple do or what
• 1:13:40
  can a woman do to try to help that situation,
• 1:13:45
  right? Because it might be a nerve thing or whatnot.
• 1:13:48
  And if it doesn't work at all, what can be the
• 1:13:51
  exit strategy? That's probably a little bit of
• 1:13:54
  a question. No, no. That's crazy. That's crazy
• 1:14:01
  that you asked that question. That's crazy that
• 1:14:04
  you asked that question because I was going to
• 1:14:06
  have a question where everybody up here like,
• 1:14:08
  what has been your most embarrassing encounter
• 1:14:13
  or moment for all of the guys? And since you
• 1:14:19
  asked that question and stuff, hell, I'm mad
• 1:14:22
  enough to damn say what I did, what happened
• 1:14:25
  to me like three years ago. Atlanta Splash, beautiful
• 1:14:31
  couple, beautiful lady. I'm already not feeling
• 1:14:35
  myself. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with
• 1:14:38
  me? Why am I having like, my energy level's not
• 1:14:41
  right. I went to work out and I'm not, something's
• 1:14:43
  not right. But I saw that find, that find my
• 1:14:46
  boy. I was like, boy, he better wake up. Like
• 1:14:49
  I didn't have this. All the definition. I go
• 1:14:53
  upstairs. We get in the moment. It starts off
• 1:14:56
  good. And then it goes away. And I'm like. That's
• 1:15:02
  never happened before ever, ever. And I'm trying
• 1:15:07
  to get myself back in the moment. I withdraw,
• 1:15:11
  start doing something else, go back in and I
• 1:15:15
  lost again. And I was like, I was just mad enough
• 1:15:19
  to be like, I don't know what is going on with
• 1:15:21
  me right now. You are drop dead beautiful. I
• 1:15:24
  don't know what, cause she had that look like.
• 1:15:27
  like a little tears in her eyes. And I said,
• 1:15:28
  baby, this is not you. Believe me, this is not
• 1:15:31
  you. And I kept kissing her, and I was like,
• 1:15:33
  this is me. And I apologized to both of them,
• 1:15:36
  all right? And I'm not even going to sit here
• 1:15:38
  and say, I said, something's wrong right now.
• 1:15:40
  I don't know what it is, but something is wrong.
• 1:15:45
  I'll be 60 years old my next birthday, all right?
• 1:15:47
  60. I went back to my doctor and told him. He
• 1:15:50
  was like, should I draw some blood? My testosterone
• 1:15:54
  level was 106. 106. If you know what normal levels
• 1:16:00
  are, my shit was low, right? And I can tell you,
• 1:16:05
  I've never, I don't, when you fit the definition,
• 1:16:08
  and I'm pointing at one right now that she knows
• 1:16:10
  me very, very well, when you fit the definition
• 1:16:13
  of what I like, that does not happen, okay? So
• 1:16:16
  something was wrong with me. But I was man enough,
• 1:16:18
  though, to be like, it happens. I don't know
• 1:16:22
  what's happening right now, but believe me, it
• 1:16:24
  is not you. You are drop -dead beautiful. It's
• 1:16:27
  not you. It's Brian right now, okay? So I am
• 1:16:31
  so sorry. I'm so sorry. And I excused myself,
• 1:16:34
  you know, and went on about my business. Thanks.
• 1:16:40
  Well, I can ask something like, because situations
• 1:16:43
  happen to me similar. We'll say Orlando, maybe.
• 1:16:47
  I don't think Orlando. Well, met a couple, went
• 1:16:51
  upstairs, didn't work. Tried every time. And
• 1:16:55
  she looked me dead in the eye. She was like,
• 1:16:58
  oh. I think she said something along those lines
• 1:17:01
  of like, oh. Like, this is me. That's what she
• 1:17:04
  said. This is me. I simply said, listen, if I
• 1:17:09
  didn't want you, I wouldn't be with Barry right
• 1:17:11
  now. Exactly. Right? So I think that it'd be
• 1:17:15
  grace on both sides. Just be very comforting.
• 1:17:19
  Because that can be a very self -confident thing,
• 1:17:22
  right? So your words. very much matter in that,
• 1:17:25
  you know, on both sides, right? Because I understand,
• 1:17:28
  you know, and you're thinking, man, so I feel
• 1:17:32
  like I wasted a bunch of time. We spent a lot
• 1:17:35
  of time together and shit don't work, right?
• 1:17:37
  So on the guy's side, I would say, yeah, be very
• 1:17:41
  confident in your words and understand, like,
• 1:17:43
  maybe it's not you, it's me, right? I don't want
• 1:17:46
  to waste any more of your time. Bunch of great
• 1:17:48
  guys out here. I hope you find what you're looking
• 1:17:50
  for. Hopefully you get back together. do it again,
• 1:17:54
  may, right? From a woman's side, oh man, please
• 1:17:58
  do not. Just because we're already in our heads.
• 1:18:02
  So from a woman's standpoint, just please like,
• 1:18:04
  just be very, I understand it's upsetting, might
• 1:18:07
  be upsetting, but if your words are more upsetting,
• 1:18:10
  they're going to be shot. They're going to shreds.
• 1:18:13
  And I think it's also, it's also a perspective.
• 1:18:18
  You know, if I get in the room with you, and
• 1:18:22
  it's not wet i'm not gonna be like fucking wrong
• 1:18:25
  with it i'm gonna be careful i am not going to
• 1:18:29
  make you feel bad that you're not instantly wet
• 1:18:31
  fact of the matter is i can spit on it i can
• 1:18:35
  put some lube on it there's a lot of things i
• 1:18:37
  can do to solve that problem so oftentimes they
• 1:18:39
  never stop to think that you know and then there's
• 1:18:43
  some guys out there who use their dick and start
• 1:18:45
  a forest fire they'll still die right in there
• 1:18:47
  trying to fuck her with but no one's going to
• 1:18:51
  be like, hey, in a group chat, man, she wouldn't
• 1:18:53
  get wet for nothing. Ladies have that same thought
• 1:18:56
  process when a guy is having a moment. You know,
• 1:19:00
  if they have that understanding, and I've definitely
• 1:19:04
  been there, and that's because I've got all kinds
• 1:19:05
  of sensory issues. And if I don't, I've learned
• 1:19:10
  over time how to set myself up so that my sensory
• 1:19:15
  issues don't fuck with me. You know, so. I've
• 1:19:18
  been in a situation where it was 100 % her. I
• 1:19:22
  didn't tell her that, but I've definitely been
• 1:19:24
  in those situations. And I've been in a situation
• 1:19:26
  where it was, I mean, I went and played when
• 1:19:30
  I knew I wasn't feeling it. I should not have
• 1:19:33
  been trying to play at that moment. I was not
• 1:19:36
  in the right headspace because every dude knows
• 1:19:40
  that tingle. Like when you see something or you're
• 1:19:44
  thinking about doing something, your dick kind
• 1:19:45
  of. You know, you get that little spark going.
• 1:19:48
  I have no spark, and I shouldn't have took my
• 1:19:51
  ass to the room, and there was somebody who I
• 1:19:52
  wanted to play with, and, you know, I'm not about
• 1:19:55
  to sit there and waste her time for 30 minutes.
• 1:19:57
  You know, 10 minutes in, hey, I apologize. I'm
• 1:20:02
  not functioning well right now. You know, I'm
• 1:20:06
  not going to hold you up if you don't mind. You
• 1:20:08
  know, if you're interested in letting me try
• 1:20:10
  again another time, I'd appreciate it. If not,
• 1:20:14
  I respect that. What else am I to say? And at
• 1:20:18
  the end of the day, if she goes and put in the
• 1:20:20
  group chat that I gave out some lame dick, then
• 1:20:23
  that's my fault for going there and giving out
• 1:20:25
  some lame dick. I mean, like, I can't. I mean,
• 1:20:28
  that means I got to do better the next time.
• 1:20:30
  Or just make sure that I go into it the right
• 1:20:33
  mindset. The bottom line is, once again, we go
• 1:20:35
  back to this. You got a bunch of grown women
• 1:20:38
  here. I know for a lot of people it can be rough,
• 1:20:43
  especially if you wind up being a third -lift
• 1:20:45
  dick. Like, then she's in her head and there's
• 1:20:48
  nothing you can do about that. But oftentimes
• 1:20:50
  they do understand that it's Saturday and half
• 1:20:53
  of these guys have been fucking since Wednesday.
• 1:20:56
  And they just may be out of juice. Like, they
• 1:20:59
  have an infinite supply. We don't. You know,
• 1:21:02
  we got only so many bullets that can fit in that
• 1:21:04
  clip. And a lot of people are understanding to
• 1:21:08
  that. There's a book I recommend. It's called
• 1:21:10
  The Multi -Orgasmic Man. There's several things
• 1:21:16
  that go into it. There's your blood circulation.
• 1:21:18
  There's your health, right? There's your testosterone
• 1:21:21
  levels. There's your cardio. But 80 % of it is
• 1:21:26
  in your mind. And so there's exercises you can
• 1:21:30
  do. There's thought processes and mental exercise
• 1:21:34
  you can do. There's meals. Kegels for men. There's
• 1:21:39
  all kind of options, and that book covers it.
• 1:21:42
  So that's something I recommend as far as that.
• 1:21:45
  But yeah, anybody else? Well, I don't know if
• 1:21:49
  you want to close it out, Unc, or... Do I need
• 1:21:51
  this or what? Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, this
• 1:21:55
  concludes another episode of the Bull Buster
• 1:21:57
  Podcast. I'm the Sigma Male Brian Morgan, along
• 1:22:00
  with Socrates and all my brothers from the Bull
• 1:22:04
  Brotherhood. We wish everybody a good night until
• 1:22:07
  we meet again. And we are coming from Splash
• 1:22:10
  Mo because everybody have a wonderful Saturday
• 1:22:12
  night. Again, to all the brothers out there,
• 1:22:15
  treat these ladies right. And to all my beautiful
• 1:22:18
  high wives out there, I wish y 'all a good morning.
• 1:22:22
  Have fun tonight. I hope you just say cheers.
• 1:22:25
  Bye -bye. Luxury Untold.