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Chuck in the Morning 9/23 H4: Cam Cleeland, Mike Macdonald/Sean Payton Drama & One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Your home for the Huskies proudly presents our weekly visit
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  Speaker 1: with the dog's color commentator, Cam Cleland.
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  Speaker 2: Hallelujah, purple rain, let's go!
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  Speaker 1: here's Chuck in the morning with the former Husky tight
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  Speaker 1: end on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 3: Cam Cleland joining us right here on Chuck in the
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  Speaker 3: Morning Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 2: Let's brag a little bit about Cam. What would you say?
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  Speaker 3: Was it your baby's soft hands at catching footballs as
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  Speaker 3: a player? Was it your rugged mentality? Was it your
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  Speaker 3: knowledge as a pass catcher and blocker? Or was it
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  Speaker 3: just your fierceness at the line of scrimmage that made
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  Speaker 3: you Cam Cleland?
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  Speaker 4: I tell you what, my friend, I think it was
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  Speaker 4: my ability just to power down massive amounts of chicken wings.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm most proud of. That is quite a superpower.
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  Speaker 4: I can't I can't expect anybody to even compete with me.
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  Speaker 4: Even to this day, I am that good.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you didn't damage your baby soft hands eating
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  Speaker 3: all those chicken wings. Hope somebody just held them for
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  Speaker 3: you and you ate around the bone.
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  Speaker 4: At all times, I made sure. Look, guys, there's an
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  Speaker 4: art to it. There's an art to it. And how
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  Speaker 4: much heat can you handle? Wing Dome. Huge shout out
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  Speaker 4: to Wing Dome.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he loves Wing Dome.
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  Speaker 4: The Five Alarm. I'm right at Five Alarm. That's my
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  Speaker 4: comfort zone. Most people can't take it to that level.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they'll wilt.
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  Speaker 4: That's my comfort zone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll wilt to three. Some will wilt to three
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  Speaker 3: if you're hanging out with the right people or wrong people.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how you look at it.
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  Speaker 4: Very much so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, football, I was just average.
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  Speaker 3: This is very average, but chicken wings?
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  Speaker 4: Elite. Very elite.
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  Speaker 3: I love that the Saints drafted you on the strength
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  Speaker 3: of your chicken wing eating. Not much of a football player,
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  Speaker 3: but have you seen this guy pound wings?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the first thing Coach Dick had told me.
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  Speaker 4: He says, you know what, kid? I saw your ability
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  Speaker 4: to eat. You're going to fit in great here.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he told me. You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I actually interviewed Mike Ditka, and I'm going to age myself,
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  Speaker 3: when he took that job. I interviewed him when he
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  Speaker 3: took the job in New Orleans, and I said, you're
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  Speaker 3: used to that Chicago food. How are you handling Cajun
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  Speaker 3: food down there in New Orleans?
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  Speaker 2: And he said, man, they'll fry water down here.
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  Speaker 4: That's so true. I had my first blackened alligator when
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  Speaker 4: they showed up.
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  Speaker 2: Someone handed me that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what is this? They went, Just eat it, kid.
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  Speaker 4: You'll be like, you'll like this. And I did. It's
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  Speaker 4: the greatest food in this whole country.
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  Speaker 2: It's not biased.
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  Speaker 4: You're right. Slightly biased. Slightly biased.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 6: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's America's gem right down there. Amazing.
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  Speaker 4: No question whatsoever. We could talk about food all day,
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  Speaker 4: my friend. We really could.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk Huskies. We should talk some football here.
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  Speaker 3: So three non-conference games under your belt. Conference play starts
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday. As far as Big Ten opponents go, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's a good.
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  Speaker 3: Testing game against the minnesota golden gophers and yet that's
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  Speaker 3: going to be the best team that you've played so
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  Speaker 3: far this year and you best not be taking them
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  Speaker 3: lightly so three games in did you see enough from
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  Speaker 3: the huskies in terms of improvement in areas over their
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  Speaker 3: three non-conference games to feel really good that they're in
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  Speaker 3: a good place as big 10 conference play starts saturday
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  Speaker 3: well you're using.
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  Speaker 4: All these big words like really good and all to
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  Speaker 4: see enough and i i What I see every week
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  Speaker 4: and what I needed to see this past week was
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  Speaker 4: jumps of improvement in certain things that I was looking for.
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  Speaker 4: Number one, I was looking for point of attack with
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  Speaker 4: the offensive line. I was looking for that kind of
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  Speaker 4: push and movement. And I did see that. I saw improvement.
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  Speaker 4: I saw a running game that certainly, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 4: we had some big runs. You had a 55-yard run
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  Speaker 4: by Bonner that really jumped it. I mean, DeMond, again,
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  Speaker 4: was another guy. He had 20, but he had 148
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  Speaker 4: on the ground. That made my opinions of this group
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  Speaker 4: much better because you're looking at experience. I think you're
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  Speaker 4: finding a group at the offensive line that is settling.
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  Speaker 4: Champ rotated with Guerin. I did see that Cody Green
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  Speaker 4: went out one time and they put John Mills, moved
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  Speaker 4: him over to left tackle. So they've made some adjustments.
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  Speaker 4: I know that Landon has still not been fully released
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  Speaker 4: yet at center, Landon Hatchett. And when he does come back,
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  Speaker 4: that will probably solidify everything. Because Colt's done a very
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  Speaker 4: good job, but he's not a natural center. But he's
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  Speaker 4: done a great job of fitting into that position. So
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  Speaker 4: that's what I saw. Things I didn't like, and that
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  Speaker 4: I know that Coach Walters was... quite adamant about it
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  Speaker 4: was the discipline on the defense the critical penalties all
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  Speaker 4: those things and against minnesota oh by the way gave
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  Speaker 4: up 252 to uh mississippi state on the ground so
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  Speaker 4: when i look about what our offensive line does and
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  Speaker 4: i jumped back really quick about being able to run
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  Speaker 4: the football i feel really good about that situation that
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  Speaker 4: we're getting better there and they're susceptible to giving up
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  Speaker 4: the run on defense you know i i looked at
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  Speaker 4: that game and i went man Nate Bell is a problem.
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  Speaker 4: Eastern Washington, he just ran all over the place. He
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  Speaker 4: was hard to get down. He was outside the pocket
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  Speaker 4: quite a bit. Did we tackle in space? Great. Not bad,
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  Speaker 4: but they didn't have their top two wide receivers as
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  Speaker 4: Eastern Washington. It could have been more difficult. So the
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  Speaker 4: things that need to be cleaned up into this game,
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  Speaker 4: and you've got to raise your game up a level.
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  Speaker 4: So now the Big Ten plays here. You have to elevate.
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  Speaker 4: There's no more, well, we can get right. This is
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  Speaker 4: not a get-right week. You're going to have to fight
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  Speaker 4: to be able to win this football game, and that's
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  Speaker 4: what you expect every time a Big Ten opponent comes
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  Speaker 4: into Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of great defenses throughout football history.
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  Speaker 2: Not all of them.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the Seahawks defense that we watch now
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  Speaker 3: under Mike McDonald, I think it is an exception. But
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  Speaker 3: we've seen a lot of NFL defenses over the years
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  Speaker 3: that play on that edge and They live with penalties,
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  Speaker 3: and hey, if you get a 15-yard penalty now and then,
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  Speaker 3: it means you're hungry. I want animals out there playing defense.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of teams kind of succeed that way.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you draw the line if you're Ryan Walters,
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  Speaker 3: if you're Jed Fish, between some of the extracurricular activity
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  Speaker 3: versus how well they've actually played defense through three games?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think they played very good defense. I just
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  Speaker 4: look at the kind of penalties that you had. Jacob
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  Speaker 4: Lane throws a punch. Now, if you watch why he
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  Speaker 4: threw the punch, I won't get into it. There was deserved,
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  Speaker 4: but you got caught. It's the second guy, the targeting.
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  Speaker 4: I still guys, I'm still baffled by that. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what you're supposed to do as an athlete, as
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  Speaker 4: a tackler. I thought that was wonderful. I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was executed properly, but according to the letters of the law,
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  Speaker 4: whatever law is subjective and, It just is. There's so
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  Speaker 4: many variables with it. The good thing is they don't
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  Speaker 4: have to miss any half being ejected like that with
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  Speaker 4: that shot. So you lose two guys in one play.
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  Speaker 4: The other plays late hit out of bounds. And then
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  Speaker 4: the pass interference penalties are just execution. Those are disciplined things.
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  Speaker 4: I don't mind aggressive penalties, attacking penalties. Those penalties to
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  Speaker 4: me is technique penalty, not turning your head late with
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  Speaker 4: your hands. If the ball's under thrown, as soon as
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  Speaker 4: you read it, Those are, again, I didn't play defensive back,
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  Speaker 4: but you watch enough football and know that when you
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  Speaker 4: get beat, certainly if you can turn and you can
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  Speaker 4: look and don't grab and hold, those extend. It's also
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  Speaker 4: the timing of the plays, Chuck. When they happen, they
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  Speaker 4: extend drives. When you're getting off the field on third down,
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  Speaker 4: the late hit on the quarterback, when the quarterback is
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  Speaker 4: down and you fly in there and just spear him,
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  Speaker 4: literally like a step and a half, two steps. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: those are just bonehead plays that are going to get you–
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  Speaker 4: in trouble against really good football teams. So, yes, I
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  Speaker 4: agree with you about playing aggressive on defense, but there
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  Speaker 4: has to be some better discipline on their choices.
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  Speaker 3: Cam Cleland is with us, former Huskies tight end, wing-eating legend,
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  Speaker 3: um here we go big 10 play starts with the
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  Speaker 3: minnesota golden gophers um and they did not play their
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  Speaker 3: number one running back darius taylor who always seems to
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  Speaker 3: be injured um they didn't play in their last game
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  Speaker 3: but maybe he gets showcased here this saturday as you
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  Speaker 3: get ready for minnesota what is it that worries you
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  Speaker 3: about them if anything Well, I just.
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  Speaker 4: Think that they're one of those classic Big Ten teams
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  Speaker 4: that can find ways to win. I mean, I understand that.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to have to go on the road. Look,
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  Speaker 4: they put it on Akron last week in one of
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  Speaker 4: those games where they just ran the ball. pretty decent
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  Speaker 4: i would say i mean that's in in their minds
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  Speaker 4: you put up 200 yards that's pretty successful when you
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  Speaker 4: run the football they're not throwing the ball all over
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  Speaker 4: yard drake lindsey's a he's a very good quarterback he's
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  Speaker 4: not going to be like nate bell last week uh
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  Speaker 4: for eastern washington we are constantly facing these crazy athletic
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  Speaker 4: quarterbacks that are just all over the place. And it's
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  Speaker 4: like trying to tackle a gnat. That was what it
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  Speaker 4: was like trying to tackle a gnat. No offense to
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  Speaker 4: Nate Bell, but that's what it was. He was that
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  Speaker 4: fast and around there. But this is, I think this
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  Speaker 4: is more about how, not just I feel very good
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  Speaker 4: about what our defense matches up offensively. I think that
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  Speaker 4: you're going to see a Minnesota defense that comes in
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  Speaker 4: and absolutely stuffs the box. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 4: But if you can make DeMond Williams have to get
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  Speaker 4: rid of the football quickly, you saw a couple plays
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  Speaker 4: where he held the football in his pocket and just held, held, held,
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  Speaker 4: took a sack a couple times when he could scramble.
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  Speaker 4: Those are what teams want to have him. They want
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  Speaker 4: him to be indecisive in the middle. They want to
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  Speaker 4: bring inside pressure. And I don't know yet if we've
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  Speaker 4: proven to any other defensive coordinator out there yet as
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  Speaker 4: we go that we run the football with authority. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying that with a yet. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 4: Because when you push and you can run with authority,
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  Speaker 4: that changes how defenses perceive you. If there's no threat there,
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  Speaker 4: They have to say, fine, we'll just load up here.
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  Speaker 4: We'll bring pressure out to them on. And then we
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  Speaker 4: feel like we can match up with your receivers. I
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  Speaker 4: expect that kind of defense from Minnesota. And look, they're
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  Speaker 4: not going to back off the throttle at all. But
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  Speaker 4: knowing that the way Rasheed Williams played last week, Des,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, another talk about a quiet nine catches. It
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  Speaker 4: just is. It was great to see. And then Baron
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  Speaker 4: Naoni with a big, big play. The tight ends looking
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  Speaker 4: better and better every week. So there are weapons for DeMond.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just expecting defenses to try to make us very one-dimensional.
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  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of weapons, I mean, Roebuck looks like he,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was his best game.
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  Speaker 2: And then Rasheed Williams looks really good. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: really like Rasheed Williams a lot.
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  Speaker 3: He stepped up. Lawson made some great... eight catches earlier
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  Speaker 3: in the season. I think they've got the weapons in
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  Speaker 3: the passing game. It just, Cam, comes down to whether
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  Speaker 3: or not you can balance out that offense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you're going to have to be heavy
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  Speaker 4: one direction, That's you have to find your best athletes.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, coaches are always very, very smart how they
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  Speaker 4: game plan and a defense wants to take away your
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  Speaker 4: best weapons. But sometimes, Chuck, I just look at it
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  Speaker 4: this way. I try to simplify football. If my guy
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  Speaker 4: is better than your guy, I don't care if you
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  Speaker 4: know what we're going to do.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the best offenses I've always played on, I
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  Speaker 4: played in the greatest show on turf. I played with
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  Speaker 4: Tom Brady in that group and certainly had a very
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  Speaker 4: good offense, too, in New Orleans with Mike McCarthy when
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  Speaker 4: he was our offensive coordinator. We knew we had better guys.
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  Speaker 4: You can try to out scheme some guys in situations
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  Speaker 4: and you can put them in these situations. But my
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  Speaker 4: better players have to be better than your better players.
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  Speaker 4: Does that make sense? At one point, I have to
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  Speaker 4: attack you. I have to win the one on one's.
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  Speaker 4: And then I have to break tackles. And I want
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  Speaker 4: to see running backs break tackles. I want to see
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  Speaker 4: that down the field. I want to see those types
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  Speaker 4: of positive runs. And football is 11 on 11, but
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  Speaker 4: eventually you have to believe that you're better than the
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  Speaker 4: teammates or the guys that you're fighting against. Or it
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  Speaker 4: becomes a scheme fest and just that doesn't always work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, just quickly on the tight ends, you brought
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  Speaker 3: up Naoni. I mean, for him to have kind of
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  Speaker 3: turned into the tight end target so far. We were both,
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  Speaker 3: I think, you and I, expecting big things out of
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  Speaker 3: Decker DeGraff. What's happened there in the pecking order? Is
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  Speaker 3: it just one guy's out playing the other? Do you
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  Speaker 3: think they need to scheme more to get DeGraff involved?
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  Speaker 3: Because we were both expecting a big year out of him,
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  Speaker 3: and the numbers just haven't been there so far.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I also think that, and this is fair to Decker,
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  Speaker 4: is that He plays more of the H and H
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  Speaker 4: or the U tight end, depends on how you want
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  Speaker 4: to call it in your offense, and everything calls it different.
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  Speaker 4: But Barron's out there tremendously more because he can block
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  Speaker 4: the edge. And he's physical. And not to say that
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  Speaker 4: Decker's not, but Barron is a better in-line blocker. He's
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  Speaker 4: an outside. He's stronger. He's bigger. He's just as fast. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it just is maybe it's just he's on
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  Speaker 4: the field more in certain personnel situations that they feel
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  Speaker 4: in 11 personnel. Baron gives them a better opportunity for
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  Speaker 4: an outside blocker, just like Quentin Moore. Quentin was one
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  Speaker 4: of the best blocking tight ends in all of the country.
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  Speaker 4: Very good in the passing game, but Decker was the
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  Speaker 4: guy that came in and did the passing, the seams,
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  Speaker 4: the corner routes. And you're right. I think it is
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of timing with that, and Decker will
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  Speaker 4: get his. Right now, it's a personnel choice with we
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  Speaker 4: need an extra guy that can block. And I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 4: this is a tight end that's an old, ancient guy.
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  Speaker 4: Just call me Moses, I guess, at this point. But
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  Speaker 4: Tight ends, like a George Kittle, like a Rob Gronkowski,
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  Speaker 4: they never left the field in personnel. They stayed on
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  Speaker 4: the field because they could block an edge. They could inline.
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  Speaker 4: They could motion and block from the backfield. That's what
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  Speaker 4: makes them so great and what makes them versatile. No
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  Speaker 4: disrespect to somebody like a Travis Kelsey, but you won't
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  Speaker 4: see Travis Kelsey put his hand down the last seven years,
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  Speaker 4: maybe eight years. He's a slot receiver, but that's not
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  Speaker 4: a tight end. That's just a big receiver. Tight ends
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  Speaker 4: can block edges, linebackers, and safeties, and they're strong, and
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  Speaker 4: that's why Barron is probably getting a little bit more
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  Speaker 4: run right now.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Bavaro types.
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  Speaker 4: You just said the greatest name ever.
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  Speaker 2: It's the greatest tight end. He was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: He is my pinnacle. He is my pinnacle of tight end.
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  Speaker 7: People forget about him.
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  Speaker 2: He's not even in the Hall of Fame because of
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  Speaker 2: his injuries.
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  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. That's another Mike Ditka story. I sat in
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  Speaker 4: my draft interview, and he goes, Cam, who's your favorite?
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  Speaker 4: And I go, well, I kind of want to be
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  Speaker 4: like Mark Barbaro. He just looked me in the eye.
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  Speaker 4: He goes... That's the greatest answer I've ever heard. That's
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  Speaker 4: how much he respected Mark Bavaro. He goes, I think
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to draft you because you said that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, well, I guess it worked.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was one of those full-service tight
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  Speaker 3: ends himself, Coach Ditka, as well when he played.
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot of footage.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty good Hall of Famer tight end.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, who was second on your team to
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  Speaker 3: you in chicken wing eating when you were at Washington?
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  Speaker 2: Did you have a rival on the roster?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Benji Olsen. Benji was an All-American, right?
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  Speaker 4: Benji was incredible, played a long time in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: But Benji had the highest... you know, I think I can,
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  Speaker 4: I probably can eat like 50 or 70 wings. I'm like, Oh,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: bring it on, bro. Bring it on. He was way
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: better than me at ribs, but Benji, Benji, you know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: everybody knows Benji that I hit his high page. He's
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: just an absolute mauler of a road grader, but he was,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: he could eat.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: He he's alignment.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I, I had a little bit of alignment
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: in me. I just didn't want to eat myself into
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: a seventies number.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty impressed that a tight end is like, uh,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: you're not, you're the two seed. All-American card, and I'm
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: the one seed in this chicken-wing eating contest. All right,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: let's close with this. How important is it? I mean,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: how big is this game for Jed Fish? Get off
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: on the right track. I mean, yes, you obviously want
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: to get the win, but big picture, I mean, do you.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Have to have it on Saturday?
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Okay. I mean, absolutely. You have to win your
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: home games. If you're going to stand a chance in
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: this conference... We've been notoriously, we've been very, very good
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: at home. I mean, even going back to his first
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: year beating Michigan at home. That's what you defend your
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: home turf. Going on the road is difficult. I mean,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: certainly you're going to have to go to Purdue, and
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: you're going to Michigan State, and you're also going to
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: fly to Nebraska. Those are tough road games, no doubt.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: But your home games, Indiana, Iowa, and it starts here
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: with Minnesota, you have to get off to a 1-0
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: start in the Big Ten play. The conference is too deep.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: It's too big, too important of a football game.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Well, have a blast. We will be listening. Thank you, sir,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: as always. And we'll do it again next week.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Thanks, Chuck.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: The amazing Cam Cleland joining us right here on Chuck
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and Buck in the mornings.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. He and I got to sit down at
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: some point. First of all, I need to see how
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: many chicken wings you can actually eat.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: That's the first question. Because I have a feeling he's
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: still on the top of his game in that area. Uh,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: and then, uh, number two, like there are very few
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: things in this world that are more entertaining than people
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: that have Mike Ditka stories.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: That's, I completely didn't even realize he played for him.
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: And like, that's so cool.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Those, I mean, that is a legend.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: That is a guy you could be in a room
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: full of other alpha male, like accomplished football types, actor types, whatever.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And that guy walks in a room. And everybody pauses. Yeah.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: He looked like a big, giant cartoon bear.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Walrus.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Like literally like a bear.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Like he walked in and it was just like, man,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you're a lot bigger than I thought, than I realized.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: And man, did he have a presence about him. Always
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: had a big cigar with him.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I was in Tahoe one time and we were, it
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: was a pro-am. So there were a lot of celebrities.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Keith Kachuk was... We were peeing next to each other.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Brady and Matthew's dad, and he used to be a
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: star himself with the Coyotes. We were at the urinal
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: stall together, and we weren't having a conversation. He didn't
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: know me from Adam. I was there doing radio. He
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: was there playing golf. And actually, we did start having
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: a conversation, and everybody was having a conversation. And all
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, everything went completely quiet in the bathroom.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And I looked at Kachuk, and he looked at me,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: and we're like, Ditka walked in, and everybody stopped their conversations.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody. Just to watch him, like, go to the bathroom.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: That's Ditka. That's the power of Ditka right there. He's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a warrior.
• 19:47
  Speaker 7: Cam had a good impression of him, too.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It was pretty good. It was pretty good. I don't
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: know about his Benji Olsen. Maybe that's dead on. Yeah.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: But thank you to Cam. We appreciate it. Thank you
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• 20:02
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• 20:05
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• 20:06
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• 20:10
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Coming up next.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Um, we haven't done this yet today, but it certainly was, uh,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: a big topic of conversation yesterday in the Seattle sports community. Uh,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: and that is the Mike McDonald caught on tape moment, uh,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: talking about Sean Payton.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Sports radio, 93.3 KJR FM.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald may feel like someone is always watching him
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: this morning. Apparently, Graham Bensinger, who I have no idea
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: how he's successful.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: No idea.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you interviewed people when you were an embryo.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Does that mean you're good at it now? I'm not sure,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: but he's still doing it for a career. And so
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald learned the hard way not to trust Graham Bensinger.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: It sounds like he was going to do an interview,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: allowed Graham Bensinger to come into his home and everything else.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: And apparently the.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Cameras were always rolling and Mike McDonald was not aware
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: that that he was being interviewed while he was telling
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: a story about Sean Payton and not exactly a flattering
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: one about Sean Payton. And then whether it was Graham
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Bensing or somebody else, it got released into the media and.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Ended up being a huge topic yesterday.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was one of the top stories in
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: the entire sports world yesterday.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: If you haven't heard it, we're going to.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Replay what Mike McDonald said yesterday or was overheard saying
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: by Graham Bensinger's cameras and audio equipment, here you go,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: this is Mike McDonald believing that he wasn't being recorded
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: and sharing a story with a trustworthy media person.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: So our first year, and so we played our first game.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And so I'm like, well, whatever.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Fans watch, fans will tape everything. or, like, post plays
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: from training camp on Twitter.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: And so it's, like, public.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Right. So we took, like, 100 plays from their training camp.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: We're, like, scouting them, you know, and, like, anyways. So
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: he got wind of it, and he, like, lost them. It's, like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: middle of the season. And we won the game. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: we were in the fight, like, our first year. We
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: were trying to– a lot of shit going on. And
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: so he called John. He basically, like, threatened to– come
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: out publicly and do it like a whole patriot, like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: spy gate type of thing.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I'm sure they're like, oh, my God. I'm like,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: we didn't cheat.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, we thought it was a Michigan thing
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: where we had a plant and the whole thing, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: we're like, so we had to, like, counter with him to.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: No, really.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Say, like, hey, look, if you come out of this, like,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: we're going to sue you because it's not true, you know?
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Right. And did you ever talk to him?
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: So he, like, he backed down, but he was, like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: killing John, our GM. And John was telling me, like, dude,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: did you... I'm like, dude, no, like, what, are you crazy? Like,
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: I'm not... That's not how we do business, you know?
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: And so, anyway, so the season ends, and he let
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: it go. But it was like the Cold War. He
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: was like, I'm going to hit the button.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hit the button.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, we're going to hit the button.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: So none of us hit the button.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: And so then I went for a run at the Combine,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: and so I'm literally getting out of the elevator at
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: the Marriott there in Indy. And like, sure, as soon
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: as I open the door, like at the floor that
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: I'm at, like here he comes in. And like, I
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: was kind of like, you know, like over him and
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: he's like.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Hey coach, you know, and totally, totally backed down in
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that moment. I was like, Oh man.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: There is the, uh, that was the clip that was
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: making its rounds yesterday. I actually, Andrew's thing about cutting
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: land off. I think that's actually the most damning. He
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: basically said he was hovering over him and Sean Payton
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: totally backed down.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: That's the, that's the part of it that I think
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: may linger.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that might create more in the future.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: As soon as you see those Mike McDonald guns, you
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: lose a lot of your juice at that point.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Well, no, just to accuse him of losing his juice,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I think is inflammatory. Yeah, I think that's the worst
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: part of the entire conversation that was caught on air.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: So here's here are the two things that I think
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: are pretty abundantly clear. Number one, don't trust Graham Bensinger.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And shame on Mike McDonald for I think he learned
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: a valuable lesson there yesterday with that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: And then secondarily.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: You know, obviously, we learned that there's a little bit
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: of a rivalry between the Broncos and the Seahawks. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I don't think that that audio leaking out is going
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: to help anything. No, I don't think so.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: And, you know, with Sean Payton's absolutely spotless record, he's
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: coming from a place of real righteousness to be talking
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: down to Mike McDonald here. So he definitely is not
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: caught up. uh calling the kettle black uh here uh
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: as he let's wait.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: A minute wait a minute now you're criticizing him for
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the exchange yes okay understandable but that doesn't clear mike
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: from telling stories to strangers and getting caught on camera
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: mike's the one that looks yeah in the actual story
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: sean payton looks bad yeah and obviously had created some
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: bad blood sure But Mike's the one that's going to
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: take it in the shorts on this. Like, why are
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: you telling these stories to strangers about me? And then
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: trying to use the excuse that the cameras were rolling
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: and I didn't know.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: I don't see a huge issue with telling the story.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: It is a little of airing dirty laundry.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: You don't normally see that in the NFL, but in
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: his eyes, like, Hey, we didn't have an issue. You
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: were the one that had the issue. So I'm just
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: talking about what happened. And there's, we have like, there's
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: nothing going on here with us. So we have no
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: problem with it. Um, we can tell people it's probably
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: not the best look, but I don't, I don't have
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: a massive issue with Mike McDonald, even if that was
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: on the air in the actual part of the interview,
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't have a huge issue with it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: I wonder if being on hard knocks had anything to
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: do with him feeling so comfortable around cameras.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: And feeling able to share that story.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I think Greg nailed it when we had him on
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: at 7.05. I think Mike McDonald is, I mean, he's
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: obviously fairly new to being a head coach and having
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: so many people interested in him. And he's an admitted
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: socially awkward guy.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: And he learned a lesson yesterday about who you should
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: and shouldn't trust. And it's probably going to end up
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: damaging his relationship with all media now. He's probably going
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to be a lot more careful about who he buddy
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: buddies with and tell stories to now that he's gotten
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: burned a little bit. I promise you he did not
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: want that aired publicly. And sure, I think Sean Payton
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: played a role in that story. And that's fine to
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: tell that story. But but the fact that he's telling
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: it to a media member, Sean Payton knows he's now
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: talking about an issue that he thought was resolved. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: then on top of it throws out there on the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: very end. I stood over him and he totally backed down. Yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I I mean, he stirred up something that shouldn't have
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: been stirred up because he trusted an interviewer that. It
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: was off the record, but never told him that it
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: was off the record. So he plays a big role
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: in this becoming a stink. There's no question about it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: But obviously the bigger story here is Graham Bensinger's role
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, how dare you do that?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: You go into somebody's home, you ask them if they
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: would be an interview subject, and then you air something
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: that you should have known, even if he didn't say
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: it was off record. You knew that was off record.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: and yet he or someone else aired it anyway. And
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: so I definitely think it makes Ben Singer look the
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: worst out of them all. Peyton McDonald, Ben Singer, it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Ben Singer.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: See, I disagree.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: I think Sean Payton looks the worst out of all
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: of them. Because it's not like this is a... And
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: I get it. Greg talked about it earlier, of course,
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: where it's like, yeah, it's kind of a gray area
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: with this journalistic integrity where... Unless it's explicitly said this
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: is off the record. Anything's fair game when cameras are rolling.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Now, I agree.
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: It's it's, again, a little shady to kind of capture
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: that before the actual interview goes and then air it out.
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: But I still think there might be a world where
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: McDonald's either. doesn't really care all that we do not
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: care yeah exactly that this all got out there uh
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: maybe the pr staff cares obviously but he's just like
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: yeah i mean i just told a story yeah i
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: don't care it's not our issue so that's kind of
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: how i think he feels about it i don't think
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: he is that upset that this is part of the
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: news cycle now to be completely honest i don't know
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: maybe maybe he is but i i think.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: He's probably really bothered by it okay and i think
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: he's probably like i think probably john had a came
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: in They talked, and John said, hey, you've learned your lesson.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: You know you don't want to do this. We don't
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: want that kind of attention. So, yes, and the story
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: he told, Sean Payton looks like the worst guy.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: But the fact that he's telling the story. the story to.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: A media member when Sean Payton thinks that the problem
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: is resolved or at least has been put to bed,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: even if it was never resolved, maybe they still have
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: a rivalry. I guarantee it didn't go over well in Denver.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I can promise you that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: OK, fine.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't excuse you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I know.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: You know, you've never been caught talking about somebody else,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: even if it's a rival.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And then you're like, I shouldn't have done that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: No, I'm sure. I'm sure there's at least somewhat of
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: that sentiment.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that's what that's what the story is.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's that he got talked talking about. He
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: got caught talking about a rival.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Find that rival's back.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But he only got caught because someone without journalistic integrity
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: seemed to do a gotcha moment with footage that I'm
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: sure Mike thought was safe. I'm sure Mike thought he
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: was in a safe place and could tell that story.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And it would never see the light of day. Well,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: now it's seen the light of day.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, big picture, no big deal. I'm not worried
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: if Sean Payton doesn't like Mike McDonald. Not at all.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: But in terms of why it became a big story, yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: there you go. All right, one last thing to close
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: it out next on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: All right, final segment of the show. Time for one
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: last thing. Anders, what you got?
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: We didn't talk about this much yesterday because I had
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: a joke all ready to go. There was so much content. Man,
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: those Rams jerseys are ugly. Like, I didn't realize the
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: New York Giants were playing Sweden yesterday. Like, that's literally
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: what it looked like. The Sweden hockey team. The yellow
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: with blue trim.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they do look like they bought them at
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: wet seal. God, it's like, come on.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Why are they plasticky and neon yellow and blue? I mean,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: and the Rams had a great classic uniform.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Iconic.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: The Eric Dickerson uniforms, one of the great uniforms of
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: all time. If you modernize that, just stick with that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Why are you playing with it?
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: I don't get it and the new logo looks weird
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: just the the horns on the helmet are not nearly
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: as cool as they used to be i thought it
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: was one of the coolest helmets in football yeah uh
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: back in the day and now it's kind of it
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: looks kind of weird and way too modern techie la
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: i'll put it that way yeah it's very la just
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: over the top but yeah it just kind of matches
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: their fake fan base their fake franchise and uh It
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: matches who they are.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if next year they all got
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: butt implants so they could be more L.A. And Matt
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Stafford had duck lips so he could be more L.A.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and avoid the unique butt injury. Maybe. All right, Travis,
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  Speaker 2: what do you got for one last thing?
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  Speaker 6: Well, everyone's been asking me about the concert I went
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  Speaker 6: to last night.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The world wants to know how it went. So I
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: saw a band called Soul Wax. Soul Wax? Why did
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: I write down Soul Box? The show was at the
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: Show Box.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I combined the two.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 6: Show Box Market, one of my favorite venues, intimate, good
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: viewing angles everywhere, good sound. So they're a Belgian rock band,
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: and then they went electronic in the 2000s, and they
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: had an insane setup. They built their own synthesizers with
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: knobs all over them and a keyboard so you can
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: make all sorts of noises. And then they had scaffolding
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: and they had three drummers on top of the scaffolding
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: playing above them.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 6: And I've never seen three drummers in one performance.
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  Speaker 2: And it was incredible. The amount of sound and energy
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: they could create.
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  Speaker 4: Really cool.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It was really, really cool.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Very cool. Soul wax. Soul wax. Soul wax. I need
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to check it out.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's worth checking out. There's a lot of remixes too.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, solely electronic?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: These days, yeah, pretty much. I love that you're going
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: to concerts.
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  Speaker 3: I just love that you're going to concerts. That's something
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: that we tend to give up. The older that we
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: get and look at Travis, just like, no, I'm not
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: going to lose that.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I'm paying for it this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Are you?
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  Speaker 2: A little bit, yeah. Was it a good show? Thumbs up?
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, totally.
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  Speaker 2: One of the best I've seen. Who did you go with?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Some friends. Some friends from college.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Good buddies. Very good. Soul Wax fans. Are they touring
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: with them? Did you get a Soul Wax tour? T-shirt? No,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: actually they ran out of merch.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: What?
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: And they had a QR code you could scan to
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: get like a discount on having something shipped to you.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: And I checked it out, but they're shipping from Belgium.
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: So the shipping cost is like $ 30.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I was going to bring this up because my
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: one last thing was going to be maybe a possible
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: segment where we do life updates on our show. And
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: then we grade whether or not that's a good life update.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: For me or not. I like that. So I'm going
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to give a thumbs up to Soul Wax Concert. That's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a good update. I'm also going to give an update
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to your new haircut.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: And I'm also going to have an update to your
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Jufro yesterday because I like that. I like that you
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: called it a Jufro yesterday. And so even though you
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: got a nice haircut today, I still am going to
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: give a thumbs up to yesterday's Jufro. I'm going to
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: give a thumbs up to Anders, who's now survived three
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: pee pants. uh nights in a row so thumbs up
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: to uh andrew did.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: Not expect that story to to hit the air but
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: uh here it is yeah my my son has peed
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: through three diapers in three nights consecutively and it's gotta
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: get it out of the.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Way yeah just gotta get it out of your system.
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: It's why i've been a little late in the mornings
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: is because i've been having to clean up after all
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: that stuff right after it happens so.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah do you need bigger diapers It's in the
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: range that he should be in right now.
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: And we even give him nighttime diapers specifically that are
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: more absorbent. But he still pees through.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you're going through this. You had to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: go through this phase, and you're going to get done.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: So thumbs up.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Anders is handling the pee pants phase really well so far.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: And then I would give a thumbs up to my
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: thumb injury update, but it fell off last night. So
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: can't do that. At least I can't give two thumbs up.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: I just give this one. The other one is misshapen former. Yeah,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: my Pop-Tart injury, it just degraded overnight and fell off.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: So anyway, I am Wiley Brown now. All right, we'll
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow at 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up next, Greg Bell, Jessamyn McIntyre, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.