Latest / Elon Musk Thinking / Elon Musk comments on China's power plans.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: China has so many power plants that have been built
- 0:03Speaker 1: and are being built. I don't think people quite realize this.
- 0:06Speaker 1: I posted on my ex account just the graph of
- 0:09Speaker 1: US power generation versus China power generation, and China power
- 0:13Speaker 1: generation is like looks like a rocket going a little
- 0:15Speaker 1: bit and US power generation is flat. Right. So I
- 0:19Speaker 1: think by the end of this year, China will have
- 0:21Speaker 1: about two and a half times the power output of
- 0:23Speaker 1: the United States, and it's headed towards maybe three or
- 0:26Speaker 1: four times the power output of the United States.
- 0:28Speaker 2: It's funny when think about China, I mean evs autonomous.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We talked about batteries, solar power generation, by the way,
- 0:35Speaker 2: even biotechnology recently, I don't know if you saw Pfizer's
- 0:38Speaker 2: licensing cancer drugs. Yeah, they seem to be I don't know.
- 0:43Speaker 2: I'll ask you the question, are they ahead of us
- 0:45Speaker 2: in certain areas that are important?
- 0:51Speaker 1: The United States still has an advantage in breakthrough innovation,
- 0:57Speaker 1: But so it's the United and I think it's it's
- 1:00Speaker 1: somewhat of a cultural thing, which is that to have
- 1:04Speaker 1: breakthrough innovation, you have to question authority that fundamentally, your
- 1:10Speaker 1: break through, your your You're questioning the conventional wisdom when
- 1:14Speaker 1: you do a breakthrough innovation, and in China that that
- 1:20Speaker 1: I don't generally like to question the authority or that's
- 1:22Speaker 1: that's just that's not it's not as encouraged as it
- 1:25Speaker 1: is in the US.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Questioning authority does seem to be good at finding something
- 1:29Speaker 2: and then making it better.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I do what says that the sheer
- 1:33Speaker 1: number of smart, talented people in UH in China who
- 1:38Speaker 1: work very hard is amazing that the amount of that's
- 1:42Speaker 1: just the share quantity of talent. I mean, I'm an
- 1:49Speaker 1: admirer of of of China's capabilities. I think I think
- 1:52Speaker 1: most people outside of China do not understand the power
- 1:55Speaker 1: of China. It really is something something special.
- 1:59Speaker 3: And I think that's the exact point that a lot
- 2:02Speaker 3: of a China bulls out there are talking about, and
- 2:06Speaker 3: this is something they're saying that the Western world doesn't
- 2:09Speaker 3: really understand the talent factor. And even when it comes
- 2:13Speaker 3: to AI. He seemed to hesitate a little bit when
- 2:17Speaker 3: the question from David Favor was really trying to compare
- 2:20Speaker 3: the US and China when it comes to how embedded
- 2:23Speaker 3: AI is, and he instead decided to talk about how
- 2:27Speaker 3: it's difficult for Chinese companies to perhaps say no to
- 2:32Speaker 3: the authorities because of the cultural difference and so on.
- 2:35Speaker 3: But I think, you know, with that, I think he
- 2:39Speaker 3: was trying to insinuate that there is that amazing capabilities
- 2:43Speaker 3: that he is appreciating about the Chinese economy.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, we'll get more about I we'll talk more
- 2:50Speaker 4: about Chinese just a bit. But you know, the US
- 2:52Speaker 4: side of it and the energy. I mean, the fact
- 2:54Speaker 4: of the matter is the US is finally now energy independent.
- 2:58Speaker 3: Right.
- 2:59Speaker 4: The resources are there, right, they're net exporters of energy, right,
- 3:04Speaker 4: It's more the ability to convert that energy, whether it's
- 3:06Speaker 4: oil or shale or whatever, or net gas right into
- 3:09Speaker 4: power and electricity. I think that's where the US is
- 3:13Speaker 4: clearly falling short of China. And China, as we all know,
- 3:17Speaker 4: is leading the world in renewable energy right whin hydro solar,
- 3:21Speaker 4: et cetera, and also building a heck of a lot
- 3:23Speaker 4: of nuclear plants. But on to the point about you know,
- 3:27Speaker 4: Musk saying that, you know, yeah, they're cracking out a
- 3:30Speaker 4: lot of degree holders, and you know, filing a lot
- 3:34Speaker 4: of scientific patents, and there's just so many smart people,
- 3:37Speaker 4: so much gray matter in China. But you know, innovation
- 3:40Speaker 4: has its limits when you're in a system where you
- 3:44Speaker 4: can't buck authority. I want to push back on that
- 3:46Speaker 4: because what a lot of people say is, you know,
- 3:49Speaker 4: even in that kind of top down communist system, right,
- 3:53Speaker 4: there's a lot of decentralization. Right, she's in pain and
- 3:58Speaker 4: the Paul Beer may say whatever they want, right, but
- 4:00Speaker 4: it's going to be down to the provinces to actually execute.
- 4:05Speaker 4: I think that's where as we saw it with EV's
- 4:07Speaker 4: and we're likely to see with AI as well, they
- 4:10Speaker 4: pretty much made their own decisions. In fact, historically that's
- 4:12Speaker 4: been one of the biggest problems for the central government
- 4:15Speaker 4: controlling the provinces.
- 4:17Speaker 3: I think the question boils down to when the control
- 4:21Speaker 3: is exercise. So I think over the past years and
- 4:25Speaker 3: EV is a good example of that, and that this
- 4:27Speaker 3: is actually the point that Louis Vincent gov was talking
- 4:32Speaker 3: about on our air just a few weeks ago, that
- 4:34Speaker 3: they let them go the private companies to do your thing,
- 4:38Speaker 3: figure it out, and we will let you innovate. At
- 4:40Speaker 3: some point the central government would come in and say, okay,
- 4:44Speaker 3: so there are too many of you, perhaps you can
- 4:46Speaker 3: consolidate with A and B and the CND, and then
- 4:49Speaker 3: we have actually a very powerful influence in this particular
- 4:53Speaker 3: sector that has been the China playbook. And perhaps that's
- 4:57Speaker 3: what's been happening, not just evs but in other sects.
- 5:00Speaker 4: And I tell you what, you know, there's nothing that
- 5:03Speaker 4: generates innovation and new ideas than that kind of competition.
- 5:06Speaker 4: It is brutal, it is cut through it, and you're right,
- 5:09Speaker 4: you know. There are times when the Chinese government steps
- 5:11Speaker 4: in and says, okay, look this is messy, inefficient, Look
- 5:14Speaker 4: you merged with you merged with you. Other times the
- 5:16Speaker 4: Chinese government just stands aside and goes, okay, so you
- 5:19Speaker 4: didn't make it. You failed too bad. Right, they're waiting,
- 5:23Speaker 4: they're letting these guys fight it out, and they're waiting
- 5:26Speaker 4: to see, okay, so who's got what it takes to
- 5:29Speaker 4: make it? And ah, okay, so you did despite all
- 5:33Speaker 4: the challenges. So all right, you deserve to be a champ.
- 5:35Speaker 3: Backly, so, Louis gov was talking about how because it's
- 5:40Speaker 3: a communist system that it's not going to work economically.
- 5:43Speaker 3: That is the misconception that he wanted to point out,
- 5:46Speaker 3: And maybe that is really the thing that we're going
- 5:48Speaker 3: on about I do want to have a line on
- 5:51Speaker 3: power transformer. Sorry, because Elon Musk was talking, I thought
- 5:54Speaker 3: it was really cute when he was saying the transformers
- 5:57Speaker 3: needing transformers for transformers, power transformers. The top exporting, top
- 6:07Speaker 3: exporting countries to the United States, Get this, Mexico. That
- 6:12Speaker 3: was a surprise to me. South Korea, China, and Germany. Yeah,
- 6:18Speaker 3: who is at an advantage. I think it's very interesting
- 6:21Speaker 3: to look at this massive rally that we've been seeing
- 6:24Speaker 3: in South Korea's power transformer sector. They had a massive
- 6:28Speaker 3: rally on the US export story. Does this continue with
- 6:33Speaker 3: Elon Musk himself talking about how there is that shortage
- 6:37Speaker 3: coming up?
- 6:38Speaker 4: Don't know, watch this space exactly all right,