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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The US and Israel claim to have destroyed most of
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  Speaker 2: Iran's air defenses and its navy. As the Secretary of
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  Speaker 2: State outlines what's at stake, I'll cross to Israel and
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  Speaker 2: speak with Deputy Foreign Minister Sharon Haskell and Sophie Illsworth,
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  Speaker 2: who's made it there too. The Albanezy government bows to
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  Speaker 2: pressure and freezers funding for one Muslim group, glorifying the late.
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  Speaker 1: Aotola Ali Kamene.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you my take on the Liberals campaign review
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  Speaker 2: and how the Voice referendum defeat led to misplaced optimism.
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  Speaker 2: I'll cross to one of the thousands of ossies stuck
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  Speaker 2: in the Middle East as well. Pauline Hanson joins me
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  Speaker 2: es the Krako in the UK and the Wednesday Wrangle.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get cracking.
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  Speaker 2: Even though opponents of the war in Iran, like the
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  Speaker 2: Greens and the ABC fane ignorance, this war has been
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  Speaker 2: a long time coming. For decades, the Islamic Republic of
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  Speaker 2: Iran has pursued nuclear weapons and sponsored terrorism through its proxies.
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  Speaker 2: In just the past two years, the Iranian regime has
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  Speaker 2: attacked US ships off Yemen, Israel from the south, Israel
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  Speaker 2: from the east, at Israel from the north, and it's
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  Speaker 2: attacked Israel directly itself since forty seven years ago, when
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  Speaker 2: Iran seized the US embassy in Tehran and took sixty
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  Speaker 2: six hostages. It's been the supreme warmonger and terrorist funder
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  Speaker 2: in the region. So long as this continues, and so
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  Speaker 2: long as it continues with those ambitions under an Islamist
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  Speaker 2: extremist regime committed to the destruction of Israel and attacks
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  Speaker 2: as well, of course against the Great Satan of the US. Well,
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  Speaker 2: as long as that's the case, no one is safe.
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  Speaker 2: So the russianal for this war is clear, and no
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  Speaker 2: one can accuse the US of being secretive about it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the Secretary of State.
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  Speaker 3: Let me explain to you guys this in simple English.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Iran is run by lunatics, religious fanatic lunatics. They have
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  Speaker 3: an ambition to have nuclear weapons. They intend to develop
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  Speaker 3: those nuclear weapons behind a program of missiles and drones
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  Speaker 3: and terrorism that the world will not be able to
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  Speaker 3: touch them for fear of those things. And this is
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  Speaker 3: the weakest they've ever been. Now is the time to
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  Speaker 3: go after them. The President made the decision to go
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  Speaker 3: after them. Take away their missiles, take away their navy,
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  Speaker 3: take away their drones, take away their ability to make
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  Speaker 3: those things, so that they can never have a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 3: That's why the President made this decision. It was the
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  Speaker 3: right decision, and the world will be a safer place
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  Speaker 3: when these radical clerics NOLAVM have access.
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  Speaker 1: To these weapons. You see how they're using.
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  Speaker 3: Them now, Imagine how they would use them a year
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  Speaker 3: from now if they had more.
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  Speaker 2: Of these Pretty well expressed, wasn't it now. There are
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  Speaker 2: other benefits. Possibly, Iran is a crucial partner and supplier
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  Speaker 2: of oil to China, might be weakened to a degree
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  Speaker 2: at the end of this war. But primarily this is
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  Speaker 2: about the chance to bring peace and stability to the
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  Speaker 2: Middle East, removing an exexistential threat against Israel, giving Lebanon
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  Speaker 2: and Syria an opportunity to run their own affairs without
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  Speaker 2: Iranian interference, and of course, diminishing the threat of Iran's
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  Speaker 2: Shia regime against the Sunni Gulf States.
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  Speaker 1: These aims are not new.
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  Speaker 2: Our succession of US presidents has talked about them.
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  Speaker 4: After two years of negotiations, we have achieved a detailed
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  Speaker 4: arrangement that permanently prohibits Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 4: It cuts off all of Iran's pathways to Obama.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Obama thought he could negotiate a nuclear freeze, or
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  Speaker 2: more to the point, he thought he could buy peace
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  Speaker 2: with Iran.
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  Speaker 4: It is true that if Iran lives up to its commitments,
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  Speaker 4: it will gain access to roughly fifty six billion dollars
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  Speaker 4: of its own money revenue frozen overseas by other countries.
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  Speaker 4: But the notion that this will be a game changer
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  Speaker 4: with all this money funneled into Iran's pernicious activities, misses
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  Speaker 4: the reality of Iran's current situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he went on there to actually argue that the
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  Speaker 2: Iranian regime would have to answer to its people instead
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  Speaker 2: of course, it's killed anyone who complaints. But back then
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  Speaker 2: President Obama actually flew billions of dollars into Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Still he knew where this might have to end up.
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  Speaker 4: Our military remains the ultimate backstop to any security agreement
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  Speaker 4: that we make. I have stated that Iran will never
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  Speaker 4: be allowed to obtain a nuclear weapon. I have done
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  Speaker 4: what is necessary to make sure our military options are
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  Speaker 4: real and I have no doubt that any president who
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  Speaker 4: follows me will take the same position.
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  Speaker 2: Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize just for getting elected,
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  Speaker 2: but in government his weakness was provocative. He kicked the
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  Speaker 2: can down the road for others to deal with, and
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  Speaker 2: even other Democrats who aimed for the White House said
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  Speaker 2: they knew what could be needed.
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  Speaker 5: The United States will never allow you to acquire a
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  Speaker 5: nuclear weapon. As president, I will take whatever actions are
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  Speaker 5: necessary to protect the United States and our allies. I
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  Speaker 5: will not hesitate to take military action if Iran attempts
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  Speaker 5: to obtain a nuclear weapon, and I will set up
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  Speaker 5: my successor to be able to credibly make the same pledge.
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  Speaker 2: So the warnings and attempts to constrain Iran have a
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  Speaker 2: long history. Then Donald Trump stepped in, and, just as
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  Speaker 2: he's done with securing America's southern border, getting NATO countries
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  Speaker 2: to increase their commitments, and forcing fairer trade, by finally
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  Speaker 2: dealing with the threat of Iran, Trump has only done
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  Speaker 2: what Democrats and Republicans have promised for decades.
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  Speaker 1: Yet they all ack up.
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  Speaker 2: Of course because he's Trump, and of course they're obsessed
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  Speaker 2: with their opposition to him, but also because he shows
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  Speaker 2: them up. I mean, just remind yourself of how weak
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  Speaker 2: they were.
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  Speaker 6: President Obama confirmed what we first reported here last Thursday.
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  Speaker 6: The aircraft captured by the Iranians earlier this month is
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  Speaker 6: in fact one of America's most sophisticated spyplanes. The President
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  Speaker 6: was asked about it today.
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  Speaker 4: We have asked for it back. We'll see how the
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  Speaker 4: Iranians respond.
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  Speaker 1: He asked for it back, too late. Mate.
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  Speaker 2: Some of that technology has now been turned back against
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  Speaker 2: the Americans. But the latest military briefing suggests that Iran's
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  Speaker 2: capabilities are already seriously plated.
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  Speaker 7: We have severely degraded Iran's air defenses and destroyed hundreds
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  Speaker 7: of Iran's ballistic missiles, launchers, and drones. And in simple terms,
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  Speaker 7: we're focused on shooting all the things that can shoot
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  Speaker 7: at us. Our B two bombers and B one bombers
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  Speaker 7: have executed uncontested surgical strikes against multiple missile facilities deep
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  Speaker 7: inside Iran. For decades, the Iranian regime has harassed international shipping. Today,
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  Speaker 7: there's not a single Iranian ship underway in the Arabian Gulf,
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  Speaker 7: Straight of Hormuz or Gulf of Oman.
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  Speaker 2: But as you know, Iran has managed to inflict damage
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  Speaker 2: from Aman, through the Arabian Peninsula, into Israel and as
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  Speaker 2: far afield as Cyprus.
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  Speaker 7: Now in retaliation, the Iranian regime has launched over five
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  Speaker 7: hundred ballistic missiles and over two thousand drones. To be clear,
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  Speaker 7: Iran is indiscriminately targeting civilians as they launched these missiles
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  Speaker 7: and drones. You've seen it on TV. The evidence is
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  Speaker 7: crystal clear and overwhelming. Having said this, we are seeing
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  Speaker 7: Iran's ability to hit US and our partners is declining,
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  Speaker 7: while our combat power, on the other hand, is building,
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  Speaker 7: and my overall operational assessment is that we are ahead
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  Speaker 7: of our game plan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the US and Israeli firepower is awesome. It's frightening
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  Speaker 2: and deadly. It's also expensive, and it's reported that US
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  Speaker 2: defense suppliers have had to increase their production.
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  Speaker 7: Our naval forces have deployed multiple waves of cruise missiles,
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  Speaker 7: obliterating Iranian command control and air defense capabilities from two
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  Speaker 7: aircraft carrier strike groups. We're squeezing Iran from the sea
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  Speaker 7: and have them backed into their own ports. US air
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  Speaker 7: forces are doing what they do best, executing a high
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  Speaker 7: volume of air strikes right into Iran. Operationally, the two
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  Speaker 7: most powerful air forces in the world, the US and Israel,
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  Speaker 7: are dominating the skies of the world's largest state sponsor
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  Speaker 7: of terror.
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  Speaker 2: Still, the US is carrying this load without help from
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  Speaker 2: key allies apart from Israel. Of course, the UK Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister Kirs Starmer extraordinarily hasn't allowed US forces to use
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  Speaker 2: UK air bases, including a Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.
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  Speaker 8: It would have been much more convenient landing there as
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  Speaker 8: opposed to flying many extra hours. So we are very surprised.
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  Speaker 8: This is not Winston Churchill that we're dealing with.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not quite the opposite. Here's Starmer at Westminster
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  Speaker 2: overnight speaking to a Muslim audience.
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  Speaker 9: But I want to make clear the UK was not
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  Speaker 9: involved in the infensive splates of the US at Israel
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  Speaker 9: and that remains the case.
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  Speaker 2: The UK Prime Minister telling UK Muslims what they might
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  Speaker 2: want to hear, preferring to let down the UK's main.
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  Speaker 1: Ally outside out of America.
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  Speaker 2: We are living through dangerously weak times. There's been plenty
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  Speaker 2: of kerfuffle about the internal review into the Liberal Party's
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  Speaker 2: election campaign last year. It was going to be released
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  Speaker 2: and then it was contested by former leader Peter Dutton,
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  Speaker 2: and then it was not going to be released, and
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  Speaker 2: now everyone's got it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the big secret was.
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  Speaker 2: This was mainly an exercise in the bleeding obvious. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: did we really have to wait all this time to
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  Speaker 2: read that the twenty twenty five Liberal campaign was widely
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  Speaker 2: considered to be the worst campaign the party has ever fought.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what sherlock when it came to airing dirty laundry.
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  Speaker 2: The main point was that the review found Dutton and
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  Speaker 2: his office ran the campaign, cutting out the Federal secretariat.
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  Speaker 2: The campaign was fatally flawed, the review says, by the
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  Speaker 2: lead and his office taking over the overall conduct of
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  Speaker 2: the campaign, leaving the party's organization responsible only for campaign mechanics.
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  Speaker 1: And it goes on.
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  Speaker 2: While Peter Dutton was never opposed or criticized openly by
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  Speaker 2: his parliamentary colleagues, there was widespread acknowledgment that he lacked appeal,
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  Speaker 2: especially to women, but his image was never successfully remade
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  Speaker 2: or addressed.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's tough for Dutton to read, but it's the
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  Speaker 1: honest truth.
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  Speaker 2: He was not the most saleable candidate the party and
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  Speaker 2: his team should have helped him focus more on his strength.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he is a ripper bloke, he did a
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  Speaker 2: great things for his country in the past and he
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  Speaker 2: would have been safe hands in.
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  Speaker 1: These turbulent times.
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  Speaker 2: This tension between the leader's office and party headquarters occurs
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  Speaker 2: to some degree in every campaign, and certainly most of
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  Speaker 2: us who are following this closely last year knew it
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  Speaker 2: was particularly.
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  Speaker 1: Bad this time round.
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  Speaker 2: The reviews made a bunch of recommendations to make sure
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  Speaker 2: the parliamentary leader and the Federal Director and their teams
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  Speaker 2: work better together in future.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The review went through a bunch of factors, as you'd expect,
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  Speaker 2: looking at the impact of the Trump factor, with Dutton
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  Speaker 2: linked to the US President, the mechanics of the campaign,
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  Speaker 2: and the demographics trouble wooing women and young voters. But
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  Speaker 2: one factor I want to highlight is the impact of
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  Speaker 2: the Voice referendum. It was soundly defeated, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: thanks to a strong coalition campaign in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: As I this is the referendum that Australia did not
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  Speaker 2: need to have.
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  Speaker 10: They've said no to grievance and the push from activists
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  Speaker 10: to suggest that we are a racist country when we
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  Speaker 10: are absolutely not a racist country now.
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  Speaker 2: As I argued here in the lead up to the election,
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  Speaker 2: the coalition victory in defeating the Voice gave the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: undeserved opts miss them they read too much into it.
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  Speaker 2: The election review found that the results of the Voice
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  Speaker 2: referendum were applied by the party's polster Freshwater to their
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  Speaker 2: waiting of their opinion poll results. That was a big error,
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  Speaker 2: and some Liberal candidates and MPs assumed defeated the Voice
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  Speaker 2: meant those who voted no would vote Liberal.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: That's just silly, isn't it. But I can confirm it
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  Speaker 2: was true. A number of Liberals at various times spoke
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  Speaker 2: to me pointing to the no vote in their electorates
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  Speaker 2: as a guide to how they'd go. Trouble is, people
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  Speaker 2: voted no to the Liberals too. One of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: lessons in this review is that the Liberal campaigns need
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  Speaker 2: to be a lot more professional, and for that they
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  Speaker 2: need a lot more money and members.
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  Speaker 1: There's plenty of hard work ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Let's cross to Israel now and catch up with News
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  Speaker 2: Corp Europe correspondent and of course Sky News contributed to
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  Speaker 2: Sophiel's with Sophie.
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  Speaker 1: Great to catch up with you down in the south
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  Speaker 1: of Israel.
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  Speaker 2: You've had to come into the country via Egypt and overland.
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  Speaker 2: It's the only way in at the moment with all
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  Speaker 2: the air strikes to the north. But as I understand it,
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  Speaker 2: not far from where you are, a little to the
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  Speaker 2: north there is a major air force base which would
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  Speaker 2: have been operating twenty four to seven throughout these attacks
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  Speaker 2: so far.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right, Chris.
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  Speaker 12: Look there's eleven fighter jets F twenty two fighter jets
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  Speaker 12: at this base, just a short a drive away here
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  Speaker 12: from where I'm based in the south of Israel. But
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  Speaker 12: I can tell you, Chris, it's a little bit eerie
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  Speaker 12: here at the moment. As you can see behind me,
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  Speaker 12: I mean illar down at the southern end of the country.
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  Speaker 12: This is a beautiful part of Israel. Right along the
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  Speaker 12: beach side here, it's glorious. There's hardly anyone around. There's
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  Speaker 12: police behind me as you can see, but it's really
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  Speaker 12: really quiet.
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  Speaker 11: Some restaurants to clothes.
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  Speaker 12: It's an odd feeling to arrive here, obviously knowing what
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  Speaker 12: is going on, but it's incredibly quiet here right now,
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  Speaker 12: and people are on high alert. We had an alert
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  Speaker 12: last night on our phones about midnight. People are still
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  Speaker 12: very nervous. I was talking to one lady this morning
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  Speaker 12: who said she lives in Tel Aviv, but she's just
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  Speaker 12: come down here with her husband to stay a few nights.
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  Speaker 11: She didn't feel safe in.
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  Speaker 12: Tel Aviv because that's obviously a center point of where
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  Speaker 12: the attacks are being fired at. So it's a very
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  Speaker 12: unsettling time for people. But it does feel a bit
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  Speaker 12: eerie at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Look, Israelis must be just so battle weary.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about tel Aviv and those highly
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  Speaker 2: settled areas in central Israel. They have been suffering missile
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  Speaker 2: attacks from Gaza and even from Lebanon for years, long
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  Speaker 2: before even October the seventh, but have been in all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of strife since October the seventh. With me, I
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  Speaker 2: was coming in from the huties from Hamas and Gaza,
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  Speaker 2: from Hesbala in Lebanon, and directly from Iran. And we
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  Speaker 2: had the twelve day war with Iran last year. Now
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  Speaker 2: they're at war again. Did they dare to think that
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  Speaker 2: this war could be the one that gives them some
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  Speaker 2: sense of peace and security for a long time to come.
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  Speaker 12: Well, this lady. I was talking to you just about
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  Speaker 12: an hour ago, Chris. She said to me, she's an
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  Speaker 12: Israeli woman, and she said, look, there's this war. Now,
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  Speaker 12: this will be over and then there'll just be another one.
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  Speaker 12: So I think that tends to be the attitude. This
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  Speaker 12: is one of them, but one of many. They just
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  Speaker 12: keep happening here. Last night, when I arrived here, I
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  Speaker 12: had people asking me why are you here, questioning you know,
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  Speaker 12: why would you come to this country right now? But
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  Speaker 12: I must tell you, Chris, when I was crossing through
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  Speaker 12: the checkpoint.
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  Speaker 11: At Tarbor, there are a lot of people.
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  Speaker 12: There are hundreds of people coming into the country, quite
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  Speaker 12: a few leaving as well. But really interesting to see
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  Speaker 12: that there's a lot of people coming back and some
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  Speaker 12: Israeli saying they were away they wanted to come back
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  Speaker 12: and be reunited with their families.
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  Speaker 11: So it's just a waiting game, Chris.
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  Speaker 12: But they're so used to this that they know the drill,
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  Speaker 12: they know the go, they know exactly what to do.
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  Speaker 11: Are you going to make sure? Obviously you can get into.
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  Speaker 12: A safe room or somewhere quickly, But they've been through
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  Speaker 12: this so many times, Chris. I mean this to them
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  Speaker 12: a lot of them is probably just another situation that
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  Speaker 12: they've been in many times before.
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  Speaker 1: Just incredible.
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  Speaker 2: They are so sturdy, so resilient, and we'll see what
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  Speaker 2: transfolds transpires in coming days. Sophia, looking forward to your
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  Speaker 2: reporting from Israel and coming day Sophie Ellsworth their live
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  Speaker 2: from Israel. I.
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  Speaker 1: Just want to recap.
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  Speaker 2: Something we talked about yesterday, and that is mosques in
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  Speaker 2: Australia planning to commemorate, that is, glorify the late Supreme
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  Speaker 2: Leader of Around the Ayatola Hamine. Now this was raised
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  Speaker 2: by the Coalition in Parliament yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: They tried to get the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: To condemn it. The worst he'll say is it's inappropriate.
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  Speaker 2: But the Coalition revealed that some of your money is
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  Speaker 2: going to some of these organizations and the government promised
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  Speaker 2: to have a look at it.
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  Speaker 1: Here's an ali the Minister.
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  Speaker 13: We take very seriously the use of taxpayer money to
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  Speaker 13: fund those activities in those communities, and when we do that,
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  Speaker 13: we do that with an expectation, with an expectation that
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  Speaker 13: those activities in those communities will abide by the law
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  Speaker 13: and within the expectations and the standards which Australian taxpayers
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  Speaker 13: expect in the use of their money, and this case
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  Speaker 13: is no different.
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  Speaker 2: Well under the coalition for highlighting this because the government
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  Speaker 2: has now put a freeze on that money.
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  Speaker 1: Put a freeze on the allocation of.
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  Speaker 2: Your money going to one of these groups that's going
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  Speaker 2: to glorify the late Supreme leader of terrorism around the world.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take that up later in the program with Pauline Hanson.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break now.
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  Speaker 2: On the other side of that, we'll talk about the
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  Speaker 2: strategic impact of this war in the Middle East, what
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  Speaker 2: it means for the region, what it means for global
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  Speaker 2: peace and security.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Switzer will join.
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  Speaker 2: Me Pauline Hanson ORGIBA will be joining us live from
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  Speaker 2: Canberra in just a few minutes, but I want to
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  Speaker 2: catch up with Tom Switzer, economists with The Australian First.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Good to see you, Tom, Chris tell us about this
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: war in Iran. I'm really interested in your take on
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: assuming victory. Let's assume that Iran is militarily knocked out.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Forget about whether there's a rage change or not, we
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But with Iran newted as a military and terrorist force
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: in the region, how could things change?
• 19:48
  Speaker 14: Well, It's complicated because the Irani impact Shia militia, which
• 19:53
  Speaker 14: is now severely humiliated and weakened since October seventh, so
• 19:57
  Speaker 14: most notably Hesballa. They were the primary act in helping
• 20:00
  Speaker 14: the Americans on the ground defeating the Sunni Islamic state
• 20:04
  Speaker 14: g Hardess.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: This is how complicated exactly.
• 20:07
  Speaker 14: So what we're seeing here is a protracted sectarian war,
• 20:10
  Speaker 14: if you like, between the Shia Iran and their proxies
• 20:13
  Speaker 14: and the Sunni Golf states and their proxies essentially that
• 20:17
  Speaker 14: have morphed into these g hardiests. So it's complicated in
• 20:20
  Speaker 14: that regard. But on the other hand, if the regime
• 20:23
  Speaker 14: collapses and the Shia Crescent, the so called axis of resistance, dissipates,
• 20:29
  Speaker 14: then the Shia are going to be the new losers
• 20:32
  Speaker 14: of the Persian Gulf, and they may well turn to
• 20:35
  Speaker 14: Shia militia groups that are hell bent on seeking revenge
• 20:38
  Speaker 14: against the Sunni gi Hardest.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is just extraordinary when you think about it
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in those terms.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I sometimes think that Shia Sunni divide is more important
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: than the sovereign boundaries there.
• 20:50
  Speaker 14: Well, some Maga Republicans cheekily say the West can't solve
• 20:54
  Speaker 14: this Sunni Shea dispute. Let Alas sort it out.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Good Lord, The bloodshed will be extreme. But the point
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: here is, wouldn't we expect more of those Sunni.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Arab nations, Saudi Arabia prime among them, to perhaps normalize
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: relations with Israel?
• 21:10
  Speaker 15: Oh?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 14: I think that's a key point. The Abraham Accords that
• 21:13
  Speaker 14: the United States under President Trump negotiated between Israel and
• 21:17
  Speaker 14: some of those Sunnigolf states that would definitely expand, including
• 21:20
  Speaker 14: Saudi Arabia, which would be a geopolitical bonanza for Israel.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think is one of the great
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: benefits that could come out of this. Is here a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: bit more from the Secretary of State, Marco Rubio.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: We're going to unleash chang on these people in the
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: next few hours and days. You're going to really begin
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: to perceive a change in the scope and in the
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: intensity of these attacks. As frankly, the two most powerful
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: air forces in the world take apart this terroristic regime
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: and defang it and take away its ability to threaten
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: its neighbors.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Defang it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't think there's any doubt that the Americans
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and the Israelis can defing Iran, even though it's a
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: massive military and quite a large country, certainly by Middle
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Eastern terms.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: But what about regime change?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Do you think there's a realistic expectation that the people
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: of Iran, those who are opposed to the regime, can
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: overthrow the government.
• 22:10
  Speaker 14: On the one hand, I think the Islamic Republican is
• 22:13
  Speaker 14: facing its gravest crisis since nineteen seventy nine, the revolution
• 22:18
  Speaker 14: that brought them to power. They face serious economic troubles,
• 22:22
  Speaker 14: domestic unrests, and as we mentioned before, they're sheer chrisons.
• 22:26
  Speaker 14: The axis of resistance is dissipating. But on the other hand,
• 22:30
  Speaker 14: this regime has shown that it is a durable, bloody,
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: ruthless enterprise. And the other point to bear in mind
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: is if they can last four to five weeks of
• 22:39
  Speaker 14: this campaign, that's a big gift. But if they can
• 22:42
  Speaker 14: and the Americans remember seventy five percent of the American
• 22:45
  Speaker 14: people oppose this intervention and they have a very limited
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: stockpile of munitions, if the Iranian regime can hold out
• 22:53
  Speaker 14: for four to five weeks, then they lift to see
• 22:55
  Speaker 14: another day.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, time is on the side of the Iranian regime,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: who look like electing the Atola's Sun as their new
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: supreme ruler. Just going on to the geopolitical ramifications here, though,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about China. We know what the
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Americans have done in Venezuela very powerful when.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It comes to oil.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Exports from Venezuela often find their way to China, as
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: to the oil experts, from exports from Iran. To what
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: extent is this play motivated by restricting the energy needs
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: of China.
• 23:29
  Speaker 14: I'm not sure if it's motivating the Trump administration's decision,
• 23:32
  Speaker 14: but it's certainly a consequence of the actions. Remember, the
• 23:35
  Speaker 14: Straits of HOMUS accounts for something like twenty percent of
• 23:39
  Speaker 14: trade of oil and gas. Now already we're seeing a
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: spike in prices, especially for gas, and that will hurt
• 23:47
  Speaker 14: China because for all the talk about China decarbonizing their
• 23:51
  Speaker 14: economy and relying on wind farms and solar panels, they
• 23:55
  Speaker 14: are still heavily addicted to carbon energy, and a lot
• 23:57
  Speaker 14: of that comes from the Persian Gulf.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So we could weaken China strategically and strength in the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: US when it comes to those energy needs. Just very
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: quickly coming back to the possible benefits, and you talk
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: about the Shia crescent. You think about Syria and Lebanon
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: constantly torn apart in recent years by civil war and unrest.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Without the Kat's pour of Iran in their affairs, do
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: they have a chance to stabilize?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Possibly?
• 24:22
  Speaker 14: But remember Iraq now in the posted arm, whosseying Era
• 24:28
  Speaker 14: because sixty percent or so of the population as Shia.
• 24:32
  Speaker 14: They're the new winners in the posted arm who's saying Iraq.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And they'll make sure it stays that way because Satim,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you're saying, was a Sunni in the minority who held
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it over them.
• 24:42
  Speaker 14: And of course what happened was that the Soones became
• 24:44
  Speaker 14: the new losers in Iraq and they turned to a
• 24:46
  Speaker 14: lot of these g hardest scripts. It's just a reminder
• 24:48
  Speaker 14: of how complicated and frankly, morally ambiguous this part of
• 24:51
  Speaker 14: the world is.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Morally ambiguous, complicated, fascinating and vitally important.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining j Christ, appreciate it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Camber and now I want to catch
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: up with Pauline Hanson and Pauline I was telling our
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: viewers earlier, reminding them about how the Coalition yesterday highlighted
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: how tax payers money more than six hundred thousand dollars
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: was going to one of these mosques that was glorifying
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the death of the former Aetola, the former Supreme Leader
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: of Iran Ali Hamene now glorifying that. They were actually
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: referring him to him as a martyr and celebrating his martyrdom.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Pauline. Now the government have responded to that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: They sound say they're now freezing that funding.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Is that a good outcome?
• 25:38
  Speaker 16: Of course, it is to praise the funding by all means.
• 25:41
  Speaker 16: I had a former Muslim that actually wrote to me
• 25:43
  Speaker 16: and he said, Pauline, he said, what's You're exactly right
• 25:46
  Speaker 16: and what you're exposing here in Australia And he said,
• 25:50
  Speaker 16: especially in an Arncliff. He said, the hatred they're spreading
• 25:53
  Speaker 16: in that mosque and also again the martyrdom of this man,
• 25:58
  Speaker 16: and it has just and I want to see intervention
• 26:02
  Speaker 16: and we need to know what's going on. I hope
• 26:05
  Speaker 16: they come down hard on these on these mosques.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Well, the IRGC is a declared terrorist entity now and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: these people who are effectively celebrating or commemorating or glorifying
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: the leader of the former leader of that terrorist organization.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: So the legal aspect is fascinating.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: There have been suggestions the AFP are investigating, but I
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: think more to the point, Pauline, it's such a worry
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: in this country that we know we have people living
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: here and we don't know how many, but certainly significant
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: numbers of people who do glorify this man.
• 26:41
  Speaker 16: Yes they do. And that's the radical Islam, Chris, that
• 26:43
  Speaker 16: I keep talking about all the time. And you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 16: this form of Muslim, You know, people have a certain
• 26:50
  Speaker 16: faith that can live in our country and peace and harmony.
• 26:53
  Speaker 16: Want that peace and harmony. But my concern is, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 16: we really need to keep on top of it, mate,
• 27:00
  Speaker 16: make sure we know what we're doing, and you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 16: pull in those ones that don't have our best interest
• 27:06
  Speaker 16: at heart, our culture, our way of life and peace
• 27:09
  Speaker 16: in this nation. That's all my concern is, Chris.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Now, you know that I rail against anything that will
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: seek to demonize all Muslims in this country, and you've
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: been through the ringer on that point in recent weeks.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: But one of the keys here is Muslim voices. You
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: talked about Muslim people writing to you, but we need
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: to hear Muslim community leaders calling out this sort of
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: celebration this sort of glorification, not leaving it to everybody else.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 16: Just reading a book at the moment, Chris, and it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 16: quite interesting that I've read is that these imams and
• 27:48
  Speaker 16: these mulas are not really religious leaders. They are there
• 27:52
  Speaker 16: as the rulers and commanders for ensuring we have Sharia law.
• 28:00
  Speaker 16: So you know, behind the scenes, what has really happened
• 28:03
  Speaker 16: in this country. And I think that's very important. You know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 16: you think they're religious leaders, they're only pushing their own agenda,
• 28:09
  Speaker 16: what they want onto their own people. Radicalization is happening. Slowly,
• 28:13
  Speaker 16: it's happening, and I'd like to see what's happening being
• 28:16
  Speaker 16: taught in some of these Muslim schools as well. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 16: don't think we're across it. We just take it for
• 28:23
  Speaker 16: granted in this country and we're just fed this load
• 28:25
  Speaker 16: of rubbish and it's going to slowly, you know, impinge
• 28:29
  Speaker 16: on us till we will get to a point we
• 28:32
  Speaker 16: will not be able to control the changes that are
• 28:36
  Speaker 16: happening in this country. That's my concern about everything, And
• 28:39
  Speaker 16: I keep re saying this over and over again. All
• 28:42
  Speaker 16: you have to do is have a look at England.
• 28:44
  Speaker 16: What's happened over there. They thought, no, they're appeasing these
• 28:48
  Speaker 16: people of multiculturalism and everything that goes with it. But
• 28:51
  Speaker 16: that country is in one hell of a mess. It's
• 28:54
  Speaker 16: a basket case at the moment, and I do not
• 28:57
  Speaker 16: want Australia to become like that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: We'll be crossing the UK to catch up with some
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: of those issues in just a moment. But as I
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: mentioned before that you were censured by the Senator. That's
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: pretty much a standing censure against you these days, Pauline.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: But the debate over this was.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Pretty ugly, I got to say, especially from Lydia Thorpe.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Here's some of that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 16: I wish you would actually start fighting for this drained people.
• 29:20
  Speaker 16: They're here listening to you. They want some representation here.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: She's got me, bitch, Senator Thorpe, do you have a
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: point of order?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 29:28
  Speaker 17: I just got called a bitch by the racist.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Good lord and kids are watching this nonsense. Pauline.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: The point I wanted to take from you, take up
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: with you. We always hear these calls from.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Labor for the Coalition to preference one nation last, your
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: party last. Because you're extremist, surely Labor should be calling
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: for the Greens to be preference last too, because they
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: said to be more extreme on many of these issues
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: than one Nation.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Are just from the other perspective, of course.
• 30:02
  Speaker 16: They are, Chris, They're very extreme. But Labor are getting
• 30:05
  Speaker 16: very worried now because we're sitting on about twenty seven
• 30:07
  Speaker 16: twenty eight percent of the vote and some areas even
• 30:10
  Speaker 16: higher than that. So Labor really starting to feel the
• 30:13
  Speaker 16: pinch now. They thought I was only taking the votes
• 30:15
  Speaker 16: off the coalition.
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: I'm not.
• 30:17
  Speaker 16: We're taking votes of flavor. So that's why they're concerned
• 30:20
  Speaker 16: about it. I do think they're bringing out all the
• 30:22
  Speaker 16: issues now about preferencing and putting it on to the Libs.
• 30:25
  Speaker 16: You couldn't possibly preference one nation, not that racist party.
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: And yet if they see they're working with the Greens
• 30:34
  Speaker 16: and their views, you know they are terribly extreme to
• 30:38
  Speaker 16: the left.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: They sure are, they sure are. They're running the lines
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: out of Tehran at the moment. Thanks for joining us again, Pauline.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: We're going to.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Head off to break after this short breaker, going across
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: to Israel. We'll catch up with the Deputy Foreign Minister
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Sharon Haskell. Just trying to get back on to the
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Iran war and events in the Middle East. Will be
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: crossing to Israel again in a second, but first up,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I just want to show you some of what Israeli
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: President Benjamin and Yaho had to say last night.
• 31:10
  Speaker 15: We continue to strike Iran with force. Our pilots are
• 31:13
  Speaker 15: over the skies of Iran and Tehran and also over
• 31:16
  Speaker 15: the skies of Lebanon. Hezbollah has made a very big
• 31:19
  Speaker 15: mistake when it attacked us. We have already responded with force,
• 31:23
  Speaker 15: and we will respond with even greater force.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Israel now.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And a good friend of the program, the Deputy Foreign
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Minister of Israel, Sharon Haskell.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Sharon, can you give us first up an update this
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: morning your time on how you believe the war is
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: playing up?
• 31:41
  Speaker 18: Oh wow, so it really goes and we've achieved quite
• 31:46
  Speaker 18: a lot during this time. We're actually ahead of the
• 31:49
  Speaker 18: time that was scheduled for the targets that we've set
• 31:53
  Speaker 18: prior from going to this operation. Unfortunately, Chrisbella has joined
• 32:00
  Speaker 18: the you know, and attacked Israel a couple of days ago.
• 32:04
  Speaker 18: Tonight was a night of a huge operation on trying
• 32:07
  Speaker 18: to destroy the ballistic missile launchers and other missile launchers
• 32:12
  Speaker 18: all around Iran. Unfortunately, when Risbella have attacked Israel, we
• 32:18
  Speaker 18: have another front that has opened and so we had
• 32:21
  Speaker 18: to navigate quite a few forces up on our northern
• 32:25
  Speaker 18: border as well. So we're confronting now also many attacks
• 32:30
  Speaker 18: that are coming destroying homes, putting children in shelters from
• 32:33
  Speaker 18: our northern border as well. We've sent the warning to Ribella,
• 32:37
  Speaker 18: and we were very clear with the Lebanese government as well.
• 32:41
  Speaker 18: But unfortunately, instead of the Lebanese government, following their declaration
• 32:48
  Speaker 18: and you know, without any kind of restraint, going to
• 32:51
  Speaker 18: disarm the Iranian Army Rizbalau in their country, they have
• 32:57
  Speaker 18: actually left a lot of it's forced to be rebuilt
• 33:01
  Speaker 18: by Iran.
• 33:03
  Speaker 11: They haven't destroyed.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about the United Nations. Under UN Security
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Council Resolutions seventeen oh one, there's not supposed to be
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: any hasbal armaments below the the La Tiffey River and
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: under the UN's watch with UN patrols there, they were heavily,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: heavily armed.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: There was an arsenal there.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: It must be not just frustrating, just infuriating for Israel.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Let me talk to you though, Sharon about about who
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: led the way on this war, because there's been some
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: suggestion that Israel was going to attack Iran again, come
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: hell or high water, and that the US was forced
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to follow your lead. Here's what the US President, Donald
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Trump says.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: We were having negotiations with these lunatics, and it was
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: my opinion that they were going to attack first. They
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: were going to attack if we didn't do it. So,
• 33:56
  Speaker 8: if anything, I might have forced Israel's hand. But Israel ready,
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: and we were ready, and we've we've had a very
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: very powerful impact because virtually everything they have has been
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: knocked out.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Now, Sharon Haskell, did Israel lead the wire on this wall? Look?
• 34:14
  Speaker 18: I think President Trump was very accurate. The friendship and
• 34:18
  Speaker 18: the collaboration between you know, our partners in America, between
• 34:23
  Speaker 18: Prime Minister and Tania and between Trump are very very close.
• 34:27
  Speaker 18: You need to remember the Iranian regime Kaminai ordered the
• 34:31
  Speaker 18: murder of Trump, not once, twice a week ago. One
• 34:36
  Speaker 18: of his high ranked ministers have openly threatened America and
• 34:41
  Speaker 18: said their ballistic missile will reach the United States and
• 34:45
  Speaker 18: they will destroy the United States. Those are full open
• 34:50
  Speaker 18: calls for war on America, not on Israel. As well.
• 34:54
  Speaker 18: And look, there were negotiations, and I think an Etaniao
• 34:58
  Speaker 18: and Trump saw very clearly with full evidence that the
• 35:02
  Speaker 18: Iranians were just trying to buy out time. Why were
• 35:05
  Speaker 18: they trying to buy out time? Why were they never
• 35:09
  Speaker 18: intending to negotiate the part of the nuclear program, Because
• 35:14
  Speaker 18: during those negotiations, they were trying to hide their nuclear
• 35:19
  Speaker 18: program underground to a place where either the American bombers
• 35:23
  Speaker 18: will not be able to reach, which will grant Iran
• 35:28
  Speaker 18: an immunity. I mean, try and think of this fanatical
• 35:32
  Speaker 18: regime with a nuclear power, with a mass destructive power.
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: That is the reality.
• 35:39
  Speaker 18: Trump saw it, Nataniao saw it, and so the collaboration
• 35:44
  Speaker 18: together we understand the threat is on Israel and the
• 35:47
  Speaker 18: threat is on the United States as well.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Minister about the resilience, the
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: resilience of the Israeli people, but also of your economy
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: and you'll military, the resourcing of it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Now, Israel's never really peace.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: You've always had terrorist attacks and missiles coming in sporadically.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: But up until October the seventh, you lived through a
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: period of a relative peace. But for the past two
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and a half years you've been fighting the war in Gaza.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: In that time, you had to fight Hezbala again to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: your north. You had Iran attacking you on the Twelve
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Day War last year, and you've had the UTIs coming
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: in as well.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: And now you're in a full scale war with Iran
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: again and Hezbollah, and.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: You've still got the remnants of Humas fighting with you
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: in Gaza. Where does Israel find the money, the resources,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the human capital to fight these wars.
• 36:47
  Speaker 18: The people, the people of Israel are one of the
• 36:49
  Speaker 18: most remarkable people in the world.
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: This is the.
• 36:52
  Speaker 18: Only country that during a time of war is sending
• 36:56
  Speaker 18: airplanes of evacuation to bring people back home because they
• 37:00
  Speaker 18: want to be here, because they feel safe here. This
• 37:04
  Speaker 18: is the safest place for Jews all around the world.
• 37:08
  Speaker 18: And when you see our armies, incredible people, talented people,
• 37:13
  Speaker 18: one of the most small armies in the world, our
• 37:19
  Speaker 18: top industry of high tech, of banking, of innovation, those
• 37:23
  Speaker 18: are the people in the front line. Okay, those are
• 37:26
  Speaker 18: the people who need to deal with some of the
• 37:28
  Speaker 18: most intense and difficult situation. And you know what, when
• 37:34
  Speaker 18: they come back from the war, when they come back
• 37:37
  Speaker 18: from the front line, they're not seeking for a revenge
• 37:41
  Speaker 18: or anything like that. They seek to resolve problems for
• 37:45
  Speaker 18: humanity and they find ideas and solutions for things that
• 37:49
  Speaker 18: they've encountered that can save lives.
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: And people trust.
• 37:53
  Speaker 18: Israeli economy because they trust the people in Israel. They
• 37:57
  Speaker 18: understand the people in Israel are good people. They look
• 38:00
  Speaker 18: on how to advance humanity and technology and do good
• 38:04
  Speaker 18: things in this world. And this is what we're doing now.
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  Speaker 18: We are at the frontline of the radical war with fanatics,
• 38:12
  Speaker 18: radical sam against the Western civilizations, those values of freedom
• 38:17
  Speaker 18: and liberty. And I think that when the world looks
• 38:20
  Speaker 18: now on the situation, understanding this regime who butchered almost
• 38:26
  Speaker 18: forty thousand of its own people, was dragging them out
• 38:29
  Speaker 18: of hospitals in critical care, to torture them and to
• 38:33
  Speaker 18: execute them in those dungeons of torture, then they ask themselves.
• 38:38
  Speaker 18: Many people will ask themselves, who do you want as
• 38:41
  Speaker 18: your partner? Who do you want as your friend? Those
• 38:45
  Speaker 18: radical Islamists or israel that when you're in trouble, when
• 38:48
  Speaker 18: you're in difficult they will stand beside you. They have
• 38:52
  Speaker 18: the more higher ground because they fight for freedom, for liberty,
• 38:57
  Speaker 18: for women's right. We will say read them of religion
• 39:01
  Speaker 18: for minorities.
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  Speaker 2: We will say, Minister, we wait with the eagerness to
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: see what unfolds in Iran when it comes to that regime,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: that evil regime.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, minister, I appreciate it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Sharon Haskell there the.
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  Speaker 2: Deputy Foreign Minister of Israel. Let's now go to the UK.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: We want to catch up with regular contributor, writer and broadcaster.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Krakhu. It's the great to talk to you again.
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  Speaker 2: The US President has declared that your prime minister is
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: no Winston Churchill.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: You know you don't say.
• 39:32
  Speaker 17: Yeah, didn't we know it already? I honestly, I have
• 39:35
  Speaker 17: never ever been more embarrassed, not by just the government
• 39:38
  Speaker 17: of this country, but just by the.
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: UK more broadly.
• 39:42
  Speaker 17: This whole kind of fiasco started because Kirstarmer initially refused
• 39:47
  Speaker 17: to allow the US to use the Diego Garcia base,
• 39:51
  Speaker 17: you know, the whole Bruhahar around the Chegos Islands, because
• 39:56
  Speaker 17: he and his international lawyer friends have gift wrapped it
• 39:58
  Speaker 17: to Mauritius, a country that never owned it in the
• 40:01
  Speaker 17: first place.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And so this.
• 40:04
  Speaker 17: Joint base, this joined the US and UK base that
• 40:06
  Speaker 17: actually was going to be very logistically and strategically important
• 40:10
  Speaker 17: for the US's assault on current assaults on Iran was
• 40:13
  Speaker 17: initially refused by the Prime Minister. Now eventually after consultation
• 40:17
  Speaker 17: with the Attorney General, Lord Hermer, who is I mean
• 40:20
  Speaker 17: he eats and breeds international law even though it's not
• 40:23
  Speaker 17: worth the paper it's printed on, he finally said, oh,
• 40:25
  Speaker 17: British citizens' lives in the Middle East are at risk,
• 40:28
  Speaker 17: so you can let the Americans use it. And I
• 40:30
  Speaker 17: think this is quite a significant shift in the UK
• 40:33
  Speaker 17: and the US's special relationship in the sense that it's
• 40:36
  Speaker 17: just basically been blown up. A defined Iran is safer
• 40:41
  Speaker 17: for the entire world. This is why the Saudis are
• 40:43
  Speaker 17: on board, the Amani's are on board, the Amortis are
• 40:45
  Speaker 17: on board. People the countries that generally don't have a
• 40:48
  Speaker 17: lot in common when it comes to foreign policy aims
• 40:52
  Speaker 17: are all on board in the US and Israel's assault
• 40:55
  Speaker 17: against this evil regime. And no same person, even as
• 40:59
  Speaker 17: far left as you get around the Western world, can
• 41:01
  Speaker 17: even defend this regime. They can't defend the deceased Iotola,
• 41:06
  Speaker 17: and they can't defend the regime's actions. And yet our
• 41:11
  Speaker 17: Prime minister and his government are so in thrall to
• 41:14
  Speaker 17: Islamist fundamentalists and left extreme left wingers in Britain that
• 41:17
  Speaker 17: they decided to jeopardize a special relationship by really kind
• 41:22
  Speaker 17: of you know, biting the hand that feeds US. In
• 41:24
  Speaker 17: many ways, the UK's astronomy is extremely reliant on the US.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It is, as you say, the special relationship in global affairs,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: and it's astonishing to see a UK Prime minister reject
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the US in this way. Obviously very happy kirs Stammer
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: to upset the US and Donald Trump. But I want
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: to show you some footage of Westminster last night where
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: kirs Stamer showed everyone who he doesn't want to offend,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and it was a Muslim gathering for Ramadam.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Have a look.
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: I want to make clear the UK was not in
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: law in the offensive strikes of the US at Israel,
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: and that remains the case.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he mentioned his criticism of Israel and support for
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Gaza as well, but at pains to tell the Muslim
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: community that the UK has got nothing.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: To do with this war on Iran. That, as you suggested,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: is his key motivation here.
• 42:24
  Speaker 17: Yes, and then he has the audacity to accuse the
• 42:27
  Speaker 17: Green Party, which is even more more left than the
• 42:29
  Speaker 17: Labor Party, if you'd believe it, of flaming sectarianism in
• 42:33
  Speaker 17: the country. This is the same party that just want
• 42:35
  Speaker 17: a by election by advertising and putting out political ads
• 42:39
  Speaker 17: in Urdu, a language that ninety seven percent of the
• 42:42
  Speaker 17: British population don't speak and is spoken in Pakistan. So
• 42:46
  Speaker 17: I mean, this just shows you the loyalties not just
• 42:48
  Speaker 17: of the Labor Party but of basically the modern left
• 42:51
  Speaker 17: in Britain. And it's horrifying. I mean, we are becoming
• 42:54
  Speaker 17: an international joke. Our defense has been hollowed out since
• 42:58
  Speaker 17: the nineteen eighties and this government refused to commit any
• 43:01
  Speaker 17: significant money.
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: We are to actually waving it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: And we are hot on your heels.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Esther in Australia, hot on your heels, not learning the
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: lessons from the UK. Really tight for time this week.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us as the crack who will catch
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: up with you next week.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I got to get to a break on the other
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: side of that, the Wednesday wrangle.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about unions here now demanding an extra week
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: of annual leave.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Can you believe.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Let's get into the Wednesday wrangle on the desk here
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: with me is sky News host Anika to Georgia and
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: in the People's Republic of Melbourne, Justin Smith joins us
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: broadcast at author Man about town. Justin, why don't you
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: start off on this. The union's won an extra week's leave.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Victoria will lead the way, no doubt.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I mean everyone's working from home maybe one day a
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: week and on holidays the rest of the time.
• 43:53
  Speaker 11: I made.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: You know how these things work.
• 43:55
  Speaker 19: When you're in a union, you shoot for the stars
• 43:58
  Speaker 19: and you hope that you're sort of land on the moon,
• 44:01
  Speaker 19: you know, So you start off by asking for a
• 44:03
  Speaker 19: week here, a week.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Week there, and then you sort of hope that it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 19: But why not? I mean, do we not all do
• 44:09
  Speaker 19: this when we it's contract negotiation time? Do not the
• 44:13
  Speaker 19: three of us in the our in our capacities sit
• 44:15
  Speaker 19: down and try to negotiate the best deal it would
• 44:18
  Speaker 19: possibly can?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 44:19
  Speaker 19: Why is not every other worker not able to do
• 44:22
  Speaker 19: exactly the same thing?
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? I just I just get what
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I'm taking. Maybe that's why I'm still wage.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Let's I want to show first up what Sally McManus,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the act you boss, I had to say.
• 44:37
  Speaker 20: In Europe, the majority of countries there I have around
• 44:40
  Speaker 20: five weeks as the standard. They're very productive, they do
• 44:44
  Speaker 20: very well, and it's because their workers are better rested.
• 44:53
  Speaker 11: Ram it up, they really ram it up.
• 44:55
  Speaker 21: Look, I don't know why anybody would want to go
• 44:56
  Speaker 21: to business right now in this country when you've got
• 44:59
  Speaker 21: unions acting like this. They want four day weeks as well.
• 45:02
  Speaker 21: Now they want extra holidays. Energy bills are through the roof.
• 45:05
  Speaker 21: You've got ir laws. I mean, seriously, no wonder there
• 45:09
  Speaker 21: are record insolvencies when you've got the maniacs like the
• 45:13
  Speaker 21: union's constantly going after business. I feel so sorry for
• 45:17
  Speaker 21: employers these days. I really genuinely feel sorry.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: So they're trying to employ people, they're paying, they're not
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: going each they're not from home for three they are
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: an extra week. What do you who do you think
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: pays for the extra weeks holiday? Exactly?
• 45:32
  Speaker 21: They are going insolvent though, because wages is a big
• 45:35
  Speaker 21: problem as well, justin it's not just this and now
• 45:38
  Speaker 21: the unions are sending these companies broke because.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: They want to.
• 45:41
  Speaker 21: And don't forget in your state of Victoria this week
• 45:44
  Speaker 21: mandated work from home came into effect.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: And don't add another problem.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Too and don't start me on electricity prices. Let's change
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: the topic while we'll mull what we'll do with extra weeks. Please,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it'll be good for the holiday destinations.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I love this.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I love the comment from Donald Trump about UK Prime
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Minister Kyrestarma.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Here it is again, it would have been.
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: Much more convenient landing there as opposed to flying many
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: extra hours. So we are very surprised. This is not
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: Winston Churchill that we're dealing with.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just a brilliant line, Danikia. You know we will
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: surrender on the beaches.
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: Oh isn't it just brilliant?
• 46:22
  Speaker 21: You know what it is, because look, Keystarma has to
• 46:25
  Speaker 21: be one of the wokest leaders today. He also put
• 46:28
  Speaker 21: out a social media ad where he was on the
• 46:30
  Speaker 21: phone to Emmanuel Macron and he said to Emmanuel, yes, well,
• 46:34
  Speaker 21: the UK wasn't involved in these arera and strikes. Well,
• 46:36
  Speaker 21: of course you weren't involved, Keir Starma, because you've got
• 46:39
  Speaker 21: no backbone to be able to take on a dictatorship
• 46:43
  Speaker 21: like the one in a Roan.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Why till the French won't turn up anyway.
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: Exactly, Well, they wouldn't do anything.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, Donald Trump.
• 46:50
  Speaker 21: But look I met Donald Trump, doesn't miss him mince
• 46:53
  Speaker 21: his words, and he was right. Keia versus Winston chalk
• 46:57
  Speaker 21: and cheese.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I tell you what, Justin, like me, you are old
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: enough to remember this. It did remind me of a
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: brilliant exchange for younger viewers. This is the nineteen eighty
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: eight vice presidential debate in the US. You've got the
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Democrat Lloyd Benson up against the man who ended up
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: being Vice President, Dan Quayle.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: It was a priceless exchange.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: Have a look, I have as much experience in the
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the presidency.
• 47:25
  Speaker 22: Senator, I serve with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy.
• 47:32
  Speaker 22: Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, You're no
• 47:35
  Speaker 22: Jack Kennedy.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Ah, Justin, you'd remember that when you don't. We need
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: more Winston Churchills and JFK's in the world. Absolutely. I
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: think I was about two years old there. Yes, we do.
• 47:50
  Speaker 19: I would certainly agree with you that Keir Starmer was
• 47:53
  Speaker 19: no Winston Churchill. But I also think I might point
• 47:56
  Speaker 19: out that Donald Trump is now Abraham Lincoln, nor is
• 47:59
  Speaker 19: he Truman or Nora. Is he a Kennedy or a
• 48:03
  Speaker 19: Reagan for that matter. So if he's going to throw
• 48:05
  Speaker 19: a few names around, maybe he needs to have a
• 48:08
  Speaker 19: look at those as well and.
• 48:09
  Speaker 15: Think you.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: With courage as were with more of them.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: As we showed earlier, he's a damn sight better than
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton for that matter. Thanks for
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: joining us, guys. Came back to Wrangle again the next Wednesday.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I just want to finish up with some of your
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: feedback from what we've had to say about what's going
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: on with the glorification ceremonies here in the Albanzi government.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Matthew says, these planned days of morning need to be
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: shut down.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: This is not okay.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Another viewer says, you have people openly praising terrorist dictators
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: on the street and I end on TV here in Australia.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Yet the government doesn't see this as a threat.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: And another viewer says, in wartime elbows, the last leader
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you would ever want Albanize is asleep at the wheel
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: on this stuff.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: And it's just going through the motions, says another viewer.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Thanks for watching back at five o'clock tomorrow, and here's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Steve Price filling in for Peter Credlin m HM, m
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: HM