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99. 2025 Predictions , Mythic Legions, Cosmic Legions & Figura Obscura · The Euro Legions Podcast

• 0:33
  Welcome to episode 99 of the Allegiance Podcast.
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  We are the last one in the double figures guys, and next
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  week it'll be episode 100 and we're going to self indulge a
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  little bit and look back over the previous 99 episodes.
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  So if you're familiar with them, you can give it a skip.
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  Don't. Don't tell people that.
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  Don't skip it. You have to listen.
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  We we gained 5 YouTube followers this week so.
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  Thank you. You 5?
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  Yeah. So there we go.
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  We're we're motoring along on that platform and but thankfully
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  we still have some audio listeners as well.
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  So, you know, I'll go. I don't listeners, I don't want
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  to boast, but obviously, you know, I do pictures, they're
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  shown on the live YouTube. Our numbers go up.
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  It's not a coincidence. Was there was there rich
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  pictures last year or last week it?
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  Might be a couple of weeks ago, but obviously, yeah, they just.
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  And then when they saw it, it was like, that's when it went
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  down, yeah. Anyway, Mal, how are you?
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  You're you're treating yourself to a little as a French beer or
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  something. A little now it was a northern
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  monk beer. OK, a northern monk, but it's
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  French martini pale and it's very, very nice.
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  I knew I heard French, so where is that from?
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  Is that British Beer? Northern Monks, a British
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  company, yes. I can't think where that I'm
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  guessing from up north. So they robbed the recipe off
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  the northern French monks or something Or the.
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  No, no Northern monks. The UK thing, their patrons
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  project. Community collaboration,
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  creation. OK, good.
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  Yeah. And Rich.
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  You're you're still suffering with the back.
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  You got a you got, you got a little reprieve.
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  You thought you were good and now you're bad again.
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  Yes, I got, I got overcompetent. Overcompetent.
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  I was going to say that. That's never something.
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  Definitely never happening. No, overconfident, and it eased
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  off a little bit at the weekend, so I stopped doing exercises and
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  that sort of stuff like an idiot.
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  And it's bad again now. So yeah, that'll teach me a
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  literal painful lesson to learn. So you're back on the wine and
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  the ibuprofen, then on. The wine and the ibuprofen and
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  doing some stretches again. Yeah, yeah.
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  That that normally sort. Of I get a deep tissue massage
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  next week by a guy that's bigger than me so he doesn't mess
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  around. That's you just wanted to go
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  back to him. That's why you did.
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  They did. Suggest like I see somebody else
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  because he wasn't available on the original day.
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  I was like, no, this guy like, you know, beat the living
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  daylights at me. I want that again.
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  That helped. Well, I'm not going to judge to
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  be honest. When you when you have aches and
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  pains and stuff like that and you'll take any, anything that
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  happens really. And a fairness.
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  Giant man standing on you. He could be one of our extra, He
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  could be one of the extra YouTube followers because he
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  took down the name of the podcast.
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  He was very interested in it. Superb.
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  Well, you know, Rich's Rich's nemesis.
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  He's backs nemesis. Oh, Rich is clapping and waving.
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  There you go. So I just keep trying to get the
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  cat off the kitchen service. Bear with me a second.
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  That's OK. That's OK.
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  And Mal, yes, we're going to do predictions this week.
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  Yeah, always a fun episode. The annual the annual mixture of
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  ourselves episode and we're shaking up a little bit from
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  from previous times. So previous times we kind of ran
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  through the year and what we thought was going to happen
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  where and when and, you know, did wouldn't follow a similar,
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  you know, way to the previous years and, and how it goes.
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  And this time, what we're going to do is we've all drawn up our
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  list of our own kind of random, whatever we thought of
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  predictions can be fun ones can be just, you know, kind of broad
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  or very narrow predictions. And we're going to shout them
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  out when, you know, we're going to go around 1 by 1, take turns.
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  And the other two are going to have to see if they agree or
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  disagree. And that will allow us then at
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  the end of the year to look back and see who was right and who
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  agreed with the people that were right and who got it all wrong.
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  Rich. What is that suggest I'm going
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  to get it all wrong. Yeah, of course.
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  Yeah, your track record, you know we.
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  Should make the point he's been very secretive about his
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  predictions. Whereas, you know, we, we've
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  shared. Well, I've got he's.
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  He's like, I've been working too hard to get the time to share
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  them. So my 2 predictions are yeah.
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  I've got I've got one which I I was literally patting myself on
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  the back about earlier in work Well, so.
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  I am it almost. Certainly won't come true now,
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  but I'm I'm I'm very happy with it.
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  I am sure you will definitely let us know when the time comes
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  for that protection. Oh yes, as to as to which one it
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  is and how happy you are with it.
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  I assume it's the one that are coming next year printed.
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  Wow. Yeah, they're professional now.
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  Well, that's just because you can't read like I have mine in a
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  little list on the side of the screen here, but.
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  Yeah, you know what happened when you put it on the screen?
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  I'm like. What the heck?
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  So this week, just briefly in news, we had the night and the
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  book. So we just take a little look at
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  that. So we see it here, the first ten
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  years book. So 4999 has some beautiful pages
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  which we must actually have a little read through those or you
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  know, maybe showcase them a little bit better in one of the
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  next episodes. But there you can get an idea of
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  what you're kind of getting. You're getting a page per figure
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  like that. There's Jorund with a couple of
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  beautiful pictures and you get a front, a kind of a an action
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  pose, a back and the accessories.
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  It seems to be the format. I've got to dive in at this
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  point, John, did you see Jeremy's show where he had
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  Trevor on talking about this? And it was like, you know, we've
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  got when they've got more than one head, they show both heads.
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  And then he clicked on this one to open it and Jordan's got the
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  same head twice. Trevor's like.
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  Of all the ones to pick is like literally what I missed.
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  Are they are they going to fix it or?
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  I don't know. They've joked about fixing it,
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  but whether they will or not, I don't know.
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  I. Don't think it's important and
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  nobody's displaying it with the night helmets, are they?
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  No, God, no. Let's do it.
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  And then you get obviously the bio and then you get the the
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  details. So a little bit a little bit
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  like how they're laid out and source horseman, you know,
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  information wise, there's Brontos.
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  Oh, you get it. close up of Brontos's eye there.
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  And the weapon he's. A big boy.
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  Could they do that? He is a big boy, isn't he?
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  You get also stuff like this where where you get a little bit
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  of background into some of the bigger characters.
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  They get a whole page to get a bit of Nate Birch art as well.
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  So that's the other thing that's going to be in this book, which
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  is some of the old Nate Birch art.
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  You also get some kind of Trevor.
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  Diorama. Kind of diorama photos.
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  That's right now. Thank you.
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  And let's take a look at Necronominus page here.
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  Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I guess the big
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  picture of Necronominus is the kind of main one.
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  Yeah, you're looking for there. Yeah.
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  So All in all, pretty cool. Can't wait to get that.
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  It's going to be awesome to to have a coffee table to just have
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  a close to hand flicking it through 360 pages.
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  It'll be cool. It's one of those things that
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  would be cool as well to have to hand.
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  And I probably will because it's, you know, it's one of
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  those books that I'll just want to keep looking at.
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  But actually, when someone who, you know, one of my friends who,
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  you know, knows that I like this stuff but doesn't really know
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  what it is, even if I try and explain, I could just hand them
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  the book and go, you want us? This is why I like, yeah, look
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  at this. Look at what they've done for
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  the last however many years. You know, 10 years as the book.
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  Is yeah, this is what this is what this whole bunch of chefs
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  in here is going to get. 2 gets 2 pages.
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  It's interesting because you got the emir as well.
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  I suppose it's a separate. Character.
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  Yeah, well, Jeremy was saying that the way they do that is
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  they'd be side by side, say on one side you'd have him in one
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  version and. On you get a double page which.
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  Should look awesome. Yeah, that would be big less.
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  And you may also like the Silver Knight Legion builder, which we
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  certainly will. So the book worked out at a bit
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  to us about kind of mid 20s shipping.
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  Yeah, 27 you guys saw for. Me.
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  Yeah, it's about 27. Yeah, which?
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  Is the price of shipping 4 figures so?
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  Yeah, one to four figures, I should say.
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  I think I ordered three nights and the book and the shipping
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  was a little over 50 so it was pretty decent.
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  Yeah, What happens, what it what it does is it basically is if
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  you order a night and a book, you basically pay the shipping
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  that you would pay for. Oh no, two nights is 27, isn't
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  it? And then four nights is 49 and
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  that's and so on. So you basically pay what you
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  would pay for two sets of that. You know, the shipping is all
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  the book shipping is always added on to the nights.
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  It's going to work like that basically for us international
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  people. Yeah.
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  So I'm happy to. I'm happy to pay that.
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  You know, I know some of the people might want to wait and
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  see if they can, if a local retailer picks it up, I'd be
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  more confident in somewhere like Germany or over or over this
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  direction where we have multiple retailers that one of them will
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  pick it up for you guys in the UK, there's only one retailer,
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  so. What what they trigger bear in
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  mind with that is the book will be more expensive anyway.
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  You know it won't be that price, but then it will be no retailers
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  over here probably just the equivalent in pounds anyway.
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  So actually work out, no more expensive than ordering direct.
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  Oh, sorry, no. Cheaper than ordering direct,
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  Yeah. Especially if you're at the 135
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  or whatever, you won't get customs on it.
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  Yeah, for you guys. Yeah, yeah, No, definitely.
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  I'll be ordering this dirt from the Horseman.
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  There's no point waiting. It's going to balance out at
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  best. Yeah, so that's that's awesome.
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  The night you can get a 12 pack of nights as well for 325, so
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  that gives you a little was a 35 off Yeah, yeah, 36035.
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  So that's a free knight and a sword.
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  Previous route should've been all over this.
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  Thankfully slightly more sensible riches into the
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  building so. And actually, if we if we bring
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  up the horsemen, didn't they share the different silvers?
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  Now they did. So we can have a little look at
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  that. So if we see here we got this is
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  the Silver Knight Legion Builder and the is it the golden?
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  No, not the golden spear. The other one.
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  Blue Shield, Blue Shield soldier.
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  Yeah. So that's the one coming with
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  the ashes of egg Bender wave. Basically the the Knight Legion
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  builder 2 the version two Yeah, it looks like these should be
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  reversing 2. So yeah, the silvers seem to be
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  pretty, pretty close. Yeah, I think the the one with
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  the soft goods on that's actually a Legion builder just
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  with rice soft goods from the Blue Shield soldiers and it
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  works really well. It looks very close.
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  And then you see all the different silvers here.
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  So Armory Knight obviously is the that's the darkest 1 here in
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  the left Red Shield soldier second from the left in the
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  middle you have the Valiant tonight.
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  Then you have this Silver Knight Legion builder 2 and the
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  original Silver Knight Legion builder.
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  Who is the most or the brightest silver?
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  So I didn't realize you could get that many silver's.
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  Huh. Amazing we can do.
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  Yeah. It's amazing what we can do with
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  Chinese paint, John. I'm saying that as the guy that
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  probably has about 10 different silver paints in collection, so
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  I'm really not. And you've also got the the
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  Templars as well, and they're all, you know, like the original
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  Templar is slightly different to All Stars one.
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  It's slightly different than the big bad go in.
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  You know, it's slightly different to the reinforcements
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  1. So they're all slightly
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  different silvers as well, which would be.
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  Yeah, exactly. So here's the difference between
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  the Blue Shield and the Legion ability.
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  You can see it bit more there in the heads.
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  As you see there is definitely a difference, although it's close.
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  And obviously Sir Andrew, you get the the slightly different
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  faceplate. So they're all interchangeable
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  though, So that's pretty cool. And the different skin tones, so
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  pretty good. And of course, Rich's favorite,
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  the skeleton head. Actually looks really cool,
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  doesn't it? It doesn't it?
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  Sickly without plume and everything as well.
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  I don't know what it is, but it just sets off the scale.
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  Yeah, it's really like, it's like the skeleton Legion builder
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  with the the kind of ponytail, you know, the female.
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  Yes, the female one, yeah. That's the best ponytail.
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  That's the best little attachment for the skeleton
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  helmet. I think that's small element
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  just looks cool in a way and little update on the in stock
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  sale so you can see lots of stuff still available.
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  All the Armory Knights, the leads and scan figures so you
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  can still fill your boots on that.
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  A lot of figure obscurers. So Frankenstein, the gods of
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  ancient Egypt, and the most recent one goes to Christmas
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  past and. Unsurprisingly, Haggon still
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  there. Yeah, I was going to mention
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  him. I was just going to give him the
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  respect he deserves. Tusk heavy gunner.
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  Can't believe that's still available.
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  But they must have a lot of him and even previous years legions
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  comes figures some of them the Walter the mad and previous
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  reinforcements. So Yep.
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  And what's on page 2 there? See.
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  So oh, barbarian bear parrots are still available as well, and
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  a bunch of the other auxiliary stuff like the posters, mouse
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  mats, lots of that cool stuff to pick up.
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  Maybe throw in the cart if you're ordering other stuff.
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  So. And this is all in the 999 flat
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  delivery as well. Isn't it still with the
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  Americans? In America, yeah.
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  Yeah, you can. Really.
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  Really go for. It go for it there yeah, so all
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  exciting stuff. One more little piece of news
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  before we get going is local retailer to me figure in lager.
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  So German retailer, they're getting in the Legions con
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  figures and the heavy gunner and they're all going to be €49.90
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  each. So basically their regular
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  retail retailer price. So that's pretty sweet.
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  It's a good news if you're in Europe and you can get those at
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  a decent, decent price from local retailer if you don't want
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  to do the whole US to Europe shipping.
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  So definitely go and check them out.
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  Marcus over there, he's great. I often get stuff from him and
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  you get allegiance pointer as well every year, every time you
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  buy a figure and I think with seven points you get a free
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  figure, something like that. So.
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  Excuse my visitor, there was another guest appearance by a
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  cat that's. OK mine has got my my Sir
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  Mancoons won now and he even he was a bit weird this week he
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  started he hid under a cupboard and must.
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  Get a big cupboard. Yeah, and he wouldn't.
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  We normally in the basement, there's a door that goes out to
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  like the washroom and then another door out to the garage.
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  And we normally have that door out to the washroom and that
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  brings you out to the back door. We normally have that inside
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  door closed. And he was wailing at it one day
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  and he wouldn't stop. Well, so we have to leave it
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  open now. And he goes, he goes hiding
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  sometimes under the cupboard there.
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  I don't know what happened. If something happened to him
• 18:06
  some he was in a fight or something or I don't know why
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  there was, there was one thing where we have a cat tree and
• 18:13
  he's so big he climbed up in it and it fell down.
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  You know, he didn't get injured, at least I don't think he did
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  because he was OK after it. And I saw what happened, but I
• 18:23
  think he maybe was a bit freaked.
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  So he's a little bit of a change.
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  He's gone a bit scaredy, but you know he's gone from the cat that
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  you would trip over to know the one that gets out of the way so.
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  In fact, if a building had almost fallen on you, you'd be a
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  bit nervous as well, yeah. Especially if you'd climbed up
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  in it and it kind of fell down as you were climbing up in it
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  because you're nearly the size of the building anyway.
• 18:51
  Shall we get on to our predictions?
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  Stay away. Hey, it's Kat, and I'm Chris
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  James's girlfriend. Welcome to Euro legions.
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  You don't have to explain yourself, Cat.
• 19:05
  No need to attach yourself to Chris.
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  I kind of said, I said, you know what you're saying?
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  You're and then I was like, why did I tell her to to to attach
• 19:12
  yourself to Chris. But hey, it went out one that's
• 19:18
  Cat anyway, Cat is awesome. Chris is awesome.
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  Yeah, right. Predictions.
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  Who wants to kick it off then now?
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  Yep, sure. What we're going to do, how
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  we're going to do this, because I've split mine into Mythic,
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  cosmic and Figura. Throw them out.
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  We just go around. Right, so start with mythic,
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  then I think the All Star wave will be another wave from the
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  library of AG Bendor. And yeah, I think I agree with
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  that, although I don't think there'll be any All Star
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  elements to it. No, I think the All Star is just
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  the time of the year, maybe the first mythic wave of the year.
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  So I did that in quotes because it's sort of it's not an All
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  Star wave anymore. I believe we will continue to
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  get these waves that are more stories yet more story based,
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  which is great. It's good idea now.
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  Now we fully understand where it's coming from.
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  I think it's a great idea. So.
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  Do you agree with that one? Yes.
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  I'm not sure if it's going to be in the library of a Ben Dore
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  necessarily. I think it could be based
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  somewhere else, but I think we'll definitely get one.
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  Yeah, I was thinking like we'll have.
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  Sorry. No go Ma, I was.
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  Just going to say I meant more. Reading was finding or whatever.
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  Yeah, yeah. He was reading from the the
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  stories in the library. That's what I meant more than
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  anything. I suppose that's yeah what
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  you're saying you're not sure about.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  True. Yeah, no, I was thinking that it
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  might. I mean, they could get Sway
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  involved somehow, but I was thinking they might like just
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  focus on maybe a battle from the Second Great War and what
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  happened there and they could introduce some new characters
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  through that way sort of thing. Cool, right?
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  What's your first one, Rich? Again, I agree with what Miles
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  said there in terms of, you know, it's definitely going to
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  be another one. I think we'll have characters in
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  the First Great War as well would be my addition to that.
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  I think the ones they did last time went down well, so I think
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  they'd be included in the the mid year wave as well.
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  So who? Remind me who those were?
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  Kai Pasha. See from there.
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  No, it was the ended Angel Joseph.
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  Oh yeah, it's beautiful. The Blue Shield.
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  Yeah. Yeah, OK.
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  So I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them do that.
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  And if they do do a character from the first Great War.
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  And this is my first thing that brings ninions into call
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  interface. Oh nice.
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  Because they were around at that point, so you could you could
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  easily get a couple of minions in there.
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  Well, I think that. Sorry, Rich.
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  I was going to say, in an ideal world, one would be ogre scale.
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  We use the the Oracle body. Make it ogre scale.
• 22:05
  Just get it. You know, they've probably got
• 22:08
  an ogre scaled sculpted snakehead already.
• 22:10
  You know what what Eric's like. Well, I, I think, I think we'll
• 22:16
  get the Serpent Spire high mage as part of that that wave so
• 22:22
  nice. Nice.
• 22:26
  Yeah. Well, anything I'd say to that
• 22:28
  is they, they normally say a very quick turn around, don't
• 22:30
  they for those mid year waves. So whether they could do that,
• 22:33
  because if it's got the tail, it might actually beat the rain and
• 22:37
  the beast wave. That's true, isn't it?
• 22:39
  Yeah, Yeah. Make a good point there.
• 22:43
  That was a surprise to Jesus. Wow, you make a good point.
• 22:49
  But they know. So that one, they said that one
• 22:52
  was coming within a year, but now it's already on the site for
• 22:55
  Q3 Ashes of Egg Bendor. I think Cox crew book one has to
• 23:00
  come before that. It's got to yeah.
• 23:02
  There's bit too big a gap of eyes.
• 23:03
  Wouldn't. It right my first one is that
• 23:08
  the dragon will fund within the 1st 24 hours.
• 23:14
  I reckon you're right. I totally agree with that.
• 23:16
  Yeah, it'll fly out. Yeah, I think.
• 23:19
  Yeah, I I think there'll be enough incentive with it.
• 23:23
  Anyone else got any more dragon related to predictions now?
• 23:29
  I think there there was mention of a figure stretch goal.
• 23:32
  I think that will not be Regor, not be not specifically be a
• 23:36
  version 2 of Regor because obviously that was a tribute
• 23:39
  figure, but I think it will be a character that is like Ray Gore
• 23:44
  and look a similar look because of how popular that look was.
• 23:50
  That's good. Yeah, well, I'd missed a bit
• 23:52
  about a figure stretch goal also.
• 23:54
  Yeah, yeah, I think it was even with the when they were talking
• 23:57
  about. Was it the they showed a picture
• 24:00
  of when the? I think it was when they were
• 24:03
  when they were. And.
• 24:05
  Saying yeah, that it was going to be coming later than.
• 24:08
  On there, so yeah. Because I guess that means they
• 24:12
  have to be even more careful again, in terms of the costing
• 24:14
  for it then. Because if you're going to start
• 24:16
  adding things in as a stretch goal, you know, you only just
• 24:19
  make your money on the dragon. You've got to make sure you know
• 24:22
  you're paying for the stretch goals.
• 24:23
  And that's as well. Yeah, but I guess that they'll
• 24:26
  get to like they'll have a break even point and then they'll have
• 24:29
  a if it meets this quantity, you know the figure will will not
• 24:36
  cost. Yeah, yeah, I guess.
• 24:39
  Yeah. Yes, stretch gold figure
• 24:41
  inclusions to be revealed is is what they said.
• 24:46
  So they specifically said figure inclusions.
• 24:49
  So I like it. Rich, what do we got next one?
• 24:57
  My next one will be jumping across to to G Con and I think
• 25:01
  we're going to see the wider world of mythos.
• 25:03
  That's not a big prediction. They they basically said as
• 25:05
  much, but we'll see the wider world and guess what I'd want to
• 25:10
  see in the wider world first up. Dog men.
• 25:14
  Yes, no lizard men. I won't.
• 25:18
  I won't bore everyone with with all the details.
• 25:20
  But yeah, you know, we've got all the parts you need to put my
• 25:22
  head basically. You know, we've got all the bare
• 25:25
  limbs, scale limbs and that sort of stuff.
• 25:28
  I'd quite like to see some fancy new armour, maybe like a again
• 25:32
  parking back to the Warhammer days, but like a Mayan theme
• 25:34
  because that ties in the quattle and I think they are going to be
• 25:38
  LinkedIn some way once we get more of the story details.
• 25:41
  So yeah, lizard men. I'm vaguely confidently
• 25:44
  predicting lizard men. Yeah, I'd have to.
• 25:47
  I'd have to agree. They're probably going to come
• 25:49
  this year, so at some point. So I actually I mean I hadn't
• 25:54
  thought about that. I feel like the Ninians and and
• 26:01
  mythos is where the lizard men must originate from, based on
• 26:06
  Ninians and serpent Spire and all that.
• 26:08
  But I wondered if we'd get more Asian inspired armour.
• 26:16
  You know, we're sort of getting the Romans as the ancient orders
• 26:22
  in in for the humans, at least in in mythos.
• 26:27
  I wonder if we'll get more monkey style.
• 26:31
  I know we've got a couple of characters that have got Asian
• 26:33
  inspired armour, but I wonder if we'll get a lot more.
• 26:38
  Like new sculpture armour. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:41
  Yeah, I think, yeah, I think with the with the minions and
• 26:44
  the yeah, within the minions and the quarterly sort of opened the
• 26:48
  door to that, didn't they? They introduced Mesoamerican
• 26:50
  armour, yeah. So hence I think it could come
• 26:52
  in with the lizard men sort of thing, if the lizard men have
• 26:53
  left Mythos and gone to a different continent.
• 26:56
  So yeah, you could make sense to bring in the Eastern stuff.
• 26:58
  You got the figure obscure Egyptian stuff that could be
• 27:01
  maybe re purpose yes absolutely style, you know bit of paint a
• 27:07
  bit of you know a certain build can definitely break make that
• 27:11
  look eastern right my next one and I think we have a bit of a
• 27:17
  crossover here Mal let the legacies line.
• 27:21
  I believe it'll see Erzak and Tord this year as well as Alto.
• 27:28
  Right, I I think we're just going to get Erzakanotho.
• 27:32
  I think it'll be two figures sets.
• 27:34
  I think they'll do I'm. With you on that one more.
• 27:36
  Yeah, right. And related to this, and I also
• 27:41
  think that the retailer wave will incorporate the legacies
• 27:45
  figures. Oh, I think that's, but I I'm
• 27:50
  not as confident on that one, but I think that's, that's worth
• 27:54
  the shout out in case it happens.
• 27:56
  It could be a good way to release them.
• 27:59
  I think they'll keep a legacy as a special thing that I reckon
• 28:03
  it'll go to retailers, but it'll be horsemen as well.
• 28:07
  They'll want to sell them. Yeah, fair enough.
• 28:12
  Yes, I was debating whether Ersot might be a a brute scale,
• 28:15
  but they don't have the armour pieces do they?
• 28:17
  So I'm not sure they sculpt new armour pieces just for the
• 28:21
  legacy line. Right, Mal, give us another one.
• 28:27
  So I sort of said that, well, a little birdie told me that
• 28:33
  Jeremy might not have meant exactly what everyone thought he
• 28:36
  meant about seafaring and sea dwelling by set sail.
• 28:40
  So I think it more, it means more what you've said, Rich,
• 28:43
  about new continents, new new the new worlds.
• 28:46
  However, I do think we might get a seafaring character to help
• 28:54
  link the, you know, story, link mythos to whatever new continent
• 29:01
  we get. So might whether it's a pirate,
• 29:05
  a sailor, a privateer of some kind, you know, whether it's a
• 29:09
  traditional sort of Western night style pirate or more say
• 29:14
  Sinbad style pirate, which actually if we're talking about
• 29:17
  doing get moving more into that Asian style and African style,
• 29:22
  maybe, maybe we will get more of a Sinbad style character.
• 29:28
  So I've said we won't get, I said we won't get pirates in the
• 29:32
  line. And I've said that yeah, the set
• 29:36
  sail part means a part of a different world and not sea
• 29:40
  creatures as such. Rich isn't happy.
• 29:47
  I've literally, I've literally got like 6 different sea
• 29:50
  creature pipes listed on this, Yeah.
• 29:52
  There's like that's. That's a page.
• 29:54
  Of prediction. You see creatures, you can have
• 29:56
  your predictions. You know one of us will be
• 29:58
  right. Here's a thought.
• 30:00
  I bet that dragon body could be converted to some kind of sea
• 30:03
  serpent anyway. Yeah, like.
• 30:08
  Like we're just going to not, not going to buy the five
• 30:10
  different dragon colour ways and then we're going to and not
• 30:14
  we're going to start buying sea serpents.
• 30:16
  Not just as like a standard figure that'll be one of the
• 30:19
  Dragons. He's maybe a sea serpent, I
• 30:21
  suppose. Well, I would say, John, that
• 30:24
  you're wrong and we'll definitely get pirates, and This
• 30:27
  is why. I don't, yeah.
• 30:30
  That's fair enough. I mean, you're wrong, but that's
• 30:31
  fair enough. No.
• 30:34
  I think it'll give them a way to it's back again.
• 30:37
  It's. OK, at least somebody with her.
• 30:49
  I think having pirates of some sort, and it won't, I don't
• 30:52
  think it'll be the Western side. Jeremy's already sort of said
• 30:54
  that Mythos pirates wouldn't be like, you know, what we think of
• 30:57
  pirates, But I think it would give them the way to include a
• 31:00
  couple of races that maybe we already have.
• 31:02
  So there could be a human and an orc pirate, say there's parts of
• 31:05
  a crew which has got different races as well.
• 31:07
  But that gives us a nice little bridge into the, you know,
• 31:11
  they've they've left Mythos for whatever reason.
• 31:13
  They're part of the pirate crew. But there's that link there.
• 31:15
  So yeah, those are bridges we know.
• 31:18
  And then here's weird, wonderful races.
• 31:20
  Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm thinking as.
• 31:24
  Well, right. And and one more season in
• 31:28
  people don't stop talking. And then if you don't want me to
• 31:31
  come in. I changed your mind.
• 31:34
  I think we'll get mermen or potentially get mermen.
• 31:37
  So I I think the set sail thing I think.
• 31:39
  As the as the legions can or as the as the whatever the hammer G
• 31:46
  con. Wave.
• 31:48
  Motu Hamash Merman. Oh oh, but well, I didn't think
• 31:53
  of that. The snake lower torso could be
• 31:57
  turned into like a a fish, like one of those fish men type tales
• 32:03
  probably couldn't it? It could.
• 32:07
  Sorry, I'm completely thrown. I'm just thinking of a Merman
• 32:09
  Motor tribute. Yeah.
• 32:11
  I don't think it'll incorporate tooling from the from the recent
• 32:18
  wave though if. No, no, the Merman tribute
• 32:21
  wouldn't, No. No.
• 32:23
  Well, I mean I had boring stuff like fish men or ray men or or
• 32:28
  dolphin men. Oh yeah.
• 32:31
  But you know. Because you could you in your
• 32:33
  stride. So I I made a little shark man.
• 32:36
  You do do do do do do do do do do do he's so.
• 32:39
  Good show the show the side John.
• 32:41
  Show the side with Gills. Oh yeah.
• 32:43
  So yeah, he's in the way of the gills, but he's up.
• 32:49
  There you go. Yeah.
• 32:51
  The girls, Yeah. Oh, that.
• 32:52
  Yeah, they go, they go. Yeah, that's cool.
• 32:54
  They're awesome and I'd nick that idea.
• 32:56
  So that was that was part of my prediction that.
• 32:58
  Little put little fins in them as well.
• 33:02
  You see them on the back of the arm there and it doesn't show on
• 33:05
  camera. So I feel your pain, Trevor.
• 33:07
  But I have this really shimmery purple kind of metallic paint on
• 33:13
  the the skin at the front and a kind of a shimmery green one on
• 33:17
  the green parts, but doesn't really get picked up on the
• 33:21
  camera. Looks blue to me if anything.
• 33:23
  John. Yeah, no, it's you can see
• 33:26
  around his eye. Maybe you see a bit of it.
• 33:29
  You missed a joke. You missed a joke, dude.
• 33:31
  Oh, sorry. I'm too busy.
• 33:37
  Yeah, I'm too busy trying. To show up.
• 33:42
  Trying to do logistics here, yeah.
• 33:44
  But no, I absolutely stole your idea and suggested we should
• 33:46
  have gills on the characters and as you've shown a shark, I'm
• 33:49
  going to keep going there. So I had shark men down
• 33:51
  strangely. Didn't didn't Todd say that
• 33:53
  gills don't sell as well? Oh, oh, he said girls, didn't
• 33:56
  he? Figures don't.
• 33:57
  Sell. I can't do Todd here.
• 34:01
  Where is Todd from in America? No idea someone could do what
• 34:05
  that accent is. A backwards part of it, judging
• 34:07
  by his accent. Mcfarland's there's no, there's
• 34:10
  no backwards parts. Don't be like.
• 34:12
  That interesting fact here. MacFarlane is my granddad's
• 34:16
  mother's maiden name. OK, talking about tard, I'm like
• 34:20
  jeez, get us some pretty figures here, man.
• 34:22
  Your great grandmother's maiden name?
• 34:23
  Then you're making it too complicated.
• 34:24
  Yeah, I did, didn't. I was trying.
• 34:28
  My great grandmother's maiden name was MacFarlane.
• 34:31
  Twice removed. Yeah, No, no direct great
• 34:35
  grandmother. Anyway, Carrie, he's still
• 34:38
  prattling. I never fished here.
• 34:40
  I'm talking about shark men now. So this was a different
• 34:42
  undersea. It gives us the option,
• 34:46
  different types, different types of heads.
• 34:48
  Obviously got hammerhead sharks, a great white, the basking
• 34:52
  shark. Obviously with the big mouth
• 34:53
  when it opens, that can be really cool.
• 34:56
  Really cool shark to have. I'd want hands and feet that are
• 34:58
  transformed fins. I think I mentioned that before,
• 35:01
  so like webbed sort of thing, and that'd be pretty cool.
• 35:04
  And I'd want sharks with tails and you can do, you know, you
• 35:08
  think, oh, shark tails or so whether or not it's like a
• 35:10
  thresher shark, shark's got a really long elongated tail, like
• 35:14
  the fin part of the end really stretches out.
• 35:16
  So you can do some cool stuff with that as well.
• 35:18
  I suppose I could I could get AI could get a an inion tail and
• 35:24
  maybe sculpt a little fin on the end of it or something for this
• 35:28
  guy. But the yeah, the the scaly
• 35:31
  texture, I don't know that would.
• 35:32
  Yeah, that that could be an issue it'd.
• 35:34
  Be a monkey king tail. Really smooth out the put a bit
• 35:37
  of sculpt over it to smooth it out.
• 35:42
  Smooth it out. Well, I just did that as well.
• 35:46
  So it's like. Smooth it out.
• 35:49
  OK, notice. How much wide of mine was that?
• 35:51
  Moving, moving on, moving on. That's me done for, Shark Men
• 35:59
  moves on quick guys. OK, so I said we will see a
• 36:03
  robot in cosmic legions this year.
• 36:05
  I'm convinced of it. I've got a bingo card as well.
• 36:08
  Yeah yeah, I forgotten to write it here, but I had on one of my
• 36:11
  other pre. I actually found my other
• 36:12
  predictions. I started doing and yes, I put.
• 36:15
  Hopefully we'll get something more robotic.
• 36:18
  No, not hopefully. It's either yes or no.
• 36:19
  Sorry, we will get more robot because these are predictions of
• 36:23
  all type. These are not.
• 36:25
  These are not maybes. You're either right or wrong.
• 36:30
  I've been banging on, Sorry. Go on.
• 36:32
  I was going to say I've been banging on about them being part
• 36:34
  of the Ox crew, like, you know, robot servants, but I don't
• 36:37
  think that's going to happen now.
• 36:38
  So I'm thinking it's more likely to be escape Haven resident.
• 36:42
  And in my mind's eye, in an ideal world, it'd be a big
• 36:45
  massive mohusive robot that really bad ass take his hands
• 36:50
  off and put weapons in instead of them.
• 36:52
  So I think we're going to get two waves again this year for
• 36:56
  Cosmic Outpost. We only got one last year.
• 36:59
  When you got one last year? Yeah, but the year before we got
• 37:02
  2. OK, so 2.
• 37:04
  We're going to get an outpost. We're going to get an outpost.
• 37:06
  Wave is what? I'm trying to then I could see a
• 37:08
  robot in the airport. Which is where I.
• 37:10
  Think that would be a good fit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:13
  That's a better idea. Yeah, that's, that's what I.
• 37:15
  Agree with Miles idea grew with my own idea and I grew with
• 37:19
  Miles idea. I also agree that we might not
• 37:22
  get robots at all. So much fencing.
• 37:30
  Give us the other one mouth. And Ox Crew Book 3 will be the
• 37:36
  other. Yeah, we'll get Ox Crew Book 3.
• 37:37
  But I I've said I think we'll get more members of Scape Haven
• 37:41
  in Ox Crew Book 3. So they're the like this the the
• 37:45
  bad, the bad guys, basically, yeah.
• 37:48
  So it's. Scape haven, yeah.
• 37:50
  The Traxion Scouts and those type, Yeah, and right.
• 37:55
  And we're going to get Karen Ray's sidekick, aren't we?
• 38:00
  The other one didn't. Didn't we get them both?
• 38:04
  We got them both did. We Oh, sorry, Yeah, she.
• 38:06
  Was from wave 1, wasn't she? Yeah.
• 38:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a prediction for last
• 38:10
  year, sorry. Now who's covering all the
• 38:14
  bases? I'm going to edit that into last
• 38:20
  year's episode in case one person goes back to listen to
• 38:24
  it. So we've got two outstanding
• 38:27
  crew members, Freya, the science officer and the communications
• 38:30
  officer, who I don't think we have a name for.
• 38:33
  What do you guys reckon they'll be in terms of character?
• 38:37
  So Treya, I think, would she be kind of like Uluria and Veloc,
• 38:46
  that type of a character? It sounds like a female name,
• 38:49
  doesn't it? It yeah, that's what was my
• 38:51
  it's. A female on.
• 38:52
  The name, yeah. But but I think it'll be like
• 38:55
  that species, whatever they are, can't remember.
• 38:58
  Yes, more humanoid to get. More human looking.
• 39:00
  Yeah. Where?
• 39:02
  Yeah. And then who?
• 39:02
  Who else did you say we had Rich?
• 39:04
  The communications officer who I don't think we have a name for
• 39:07
  yet, but she. Could be anything.
• 39:09
  It could be, yeah. Maybe he will be the robot.
• 39:11
  That could be. That's possible.
• 39:13
  Oh. That would be cool.
• 39:14
  I was thinking that, but I don't know.
• 39:16
  Unless it's a really proper robot with feelings, then he
• 39:19
  just seems a bit scaredy Cat on terms of the wording and that
• 39:24
  sort of thing. It's a bit like, you know, I'm
• 39:25
  really worried about it. Yeah, we're like, I don't care.
• 39:27
  They can all die. Maybe it's a?
• 39:31
  Kid, maybe another Orva cut character.
• 39:38
  A proper dwarf scale cosmic legions character, That's what
• 39:43
  we need. Well, here, here's my thinking
• 39:45
  on the two of them. Hence I asked you guys because
• 39:47
  obviously I want to talk about my own stuff.
• 39:50
  So if they do the same race as Elyria and Verloc, I will be
• 39:55
  furious. I think we need a different
• 39:56
  race. I'd like something properly
• 39:59
  weird. So in my head, it's well.
• 40:03
  I was going to say, in my head there's like 3 different
• 40:05
  options. That's four fingers I held up.
• 40:06
  It's been a long week already. Three different options.
• 40:09
  First, the one is some sort of like just like just hairless
• 40:17
  alien but with a massive set of like really razor sharp teeth.
• 40:21
  But they're not a violent race, but they look terrifying.
• 40:24
  So like a shark, man. It is, isn't it?
• 40:28
  So a space shark, man. Yes.
• 40:30
  I didn't think of that. Damn it.
• 40:31
  So a space shark would be my first option.
• 40:35
  Yeah, damn it. Or, as she's a science officer,
• 40:49
  maybe some sort of giant translucent brain that you can
• 40:52
  see because she's very smart. That would be a very typical
• 40:56
  though. So or, and there's another link
• 41:00
  to the sea stuff here, some sort of multi headed tentacled
• 41:03
  creature. So they've all got they've all
• 41:06
  got well, they've all got the big space suits.
• 41:07
  So you could hide a weird like neck joint and then stick the
• 41:10
  two heads coming out of that. And then you can do some
• 41:13
  tentacle hands and I'll, you know, hands and feet to come out
• 41:16
  at the bottom of the thing. You know you don't need an
• 41:17
  entire tentacle body, but it. Doesn't it doesn't ooze ooze.
• 41:22
  It doesn't. It doesn't live, but he does.
• 41:25
  Use does it? Yeah.
• 41:26
  It doesn't feel very heroic good guy ish though, does it?
• 41:29
  Which I know. This is the thing, just because
• 41:31
  their species looks a bit, yeah. Don't judge species on its
• 41:33
  appearance Mal. Just because it looks like a
• 41:35
  weirdo or a nasty 1 doesn't that I mean it is.
• 41:38
  That's true. Was it the It's a trap guy from
• 41:41
  Star Wars? He looks like a bad guy, no?
• 41:43
  It's true, it's true. There you go.
• 41:45
  Maybe we'll get a Fishman. Oh, Admiral Ackbar, Can you
• 41:48
  imagine if they got the rights to that?
• 41:51
  Can we borrow the Alomarian or whatever they're called?
• 41:54
  Yeah, yeah. Montalamarian Yeah, I.
• 41:57
  Was going to say, I think I butchered that.
• 42:00
  And then for the communications officer, I think based on what
• 42:05
  see, in my head, it's a girl, but it could be a boy.
• 42:07
  But based on what the characters said, I think, you know, they've
• 42:11
  been quite softly spoken. So I'm thinking a small alien
• 42:15
  and I've been banging out about small aliens for ages.
• 42:17
  I'm like, I'm, I'm thinking quite a small alien.
• 42:19
  So it could be maybe a timid prey species originally.
• 42:22
  So they're prone to worrying, hence the language in the thing
• 42:26
  and some sort of some sort of little furry alien.
• 42:28
  Or because Cog was furry, maybe some sort of reptilian alien,
• 42:32
  you know, lizard esque alien maybe, but small, maybe with
• 42:35
  big, oh, lizard with big eyes. Lizard with big eyes.
• 42:39
  Lizards and she. Looks so he or she looks scared
• 42:42
  all the time. Does, yeah, but does the
• 42:45
  character really need to be kind of scaredy considering this
• 42:48
  crashed their ship and it would be just natural for anything to
• 42:52
  be like, a bit freaky? The way they describe the way
• 42:54
  they describe the others, they all seem a bit more chill about
• 42:56
  the situation, even when they get attacked by skate backs.
• 42:59
  Whereas, you know, this alien is, yeah, gibbering wreck
• 43:03
  whenever they're sending a transmission.
• 43:06
  Maybe just hasn't had the good training then.
• 43:08
  It's all right when we see when we see a tiny little lizard lady
• 43:12
  with big eyes, then we'll know that I was 100% correct.
• 43:15
  A little mole man. Oh, more might be good.
• 43:21
  Right, you're done with your lizard.
• 43:23
  Tiny lizard fantasies there. I think I am for now.
• 43:26
  I'm not sure I've got any more of the tiny lizard fantasies,
• 43:28
  but I'll let you know if they come back.
• 43:31
  So I said there will be no fully translucent figures this year.
• 43:36
  So fully translucent. Yeah.
• 43:40
  So that's sizing my brains. So you say all you think.
• 43:47
  I think the retailer version of the Ghost of Christmas Pass will
• 43:50
  be partially translucent, but not fully translucent, Yeah.
• 43:56
  I, I think the retailer version will be fully translucent.
• 44:02
  I think they'll go for it on that one, right, because you've
• 44:06
  got soft goods to cover up a lot of it anyway, but I think
• 44:09
  they'll get very translucent. That's that's it.
• 44:11
  OK, I'll give you that. If that is fully translucent,
• 44:13
  I'll I'll give that as a loss for my prediction.
• 44:17
  Even with the soft goods. If the soft or.
• 44:19
  Not, and hear me out now, the ghost of Christmas Pass could be
• 44:22
  a shark. It could a.
• 44:30
  Land. Shark, Jeff, the Land shark.
• 44:34
  Here we go. Right, moving along now, have
• 44:40
  you got another one? For us cosmic, I think.
• 44:45
  In book doesn't have to be cosmic.
• 44:46
  Well, I'm just, I've got that many more so.
• 44:48
  John it's, it's male, it's going to be cosmic.
• 44:50
  Yeah, in Ox Crew book three, I think we'll get a Fraxian leader
• 44:54
  of some kind we've got. Do you think a bigger scales?
• 44:59
  I honestly don't know I'm I'm airing towards no but that would
• 45:03
  be quite cool. If we got So your prediction is
• 45:06
  no. No, it will be like using the
• 45:09
  other Fraxian bodies but with more stuff on it.
• 45:12
  Got you. Yeah, I think, I think that's a
• 45:15
  good prediction. Yeah, I'll get behind that.
• 45:17
  My Thoraxian prediction encompasses both those things,
• 45:20
  so I think we'll get maybe a matriarch of some sort as the
• 45:23
  the head of Thoraxians. That's cool.
• 45:25
  It's like a female sort of look two, said Thoraxian.
• 45:30
  Or. So would that that would have to
• 45:31
  be 2.2 O scale or would they? Yes, I would suggest 2 point O.
• 45:36
  So they'd have to sculpt the whole.
• 45:39
  Well you can use lots of 2.0 armour things and.
• 45:42
  We're getting a female lizard, so we'll have female sized
• 45:46
  lizard parts, won't we? What's quite what's silly?
• 45:50
  Yeah, yeah, Basilia. Oh, yeah.
• 45:53
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:54
  Oh. Yeah.
• 45:57
  Or at the other end of the scale we get a really big Thraxian,
• 46:00
  maybe using the scale yoga parts again from the Dragons.
• 46:04
  And this could be like a, a subset of like labourers.
• 46:08
  So maybe they're not the brightest things in the world,
• 46:10
  but they use them for all the heavy lifting.
• 46:11
  Thraxian Saturday. It's like a which?
• 46:13
  Class. Which one is your prediction?
• 46:15
  Or both? Both.
• 46:16
  Both OK, so. We're going to get both games 2.
• 46:19
  Thraxian. No, no, If I had to pick one,
• 46:21
  I'd say the matriarch of some sort.
• 46:23
  So a female Thraxian that's in charge.
• 46:25
  But if that's not right, I'm throwing the other one in.
• 46:31
  Seriously guys, you say that you just throw up a million ideas
• 46:34
  and then you're bound to get, you know, even if you percentage
• 46:37
  is really awful. When John comes, John comes to
• 46:40
  clipping this out, you know, next December, I will not be
• 46:43
  taking your million. I'll be taking your final
• 46:45
  answer. You know, this is who wants to
• 46:48
  be a millionaire? You know, it's like, so which of
• 46:51
  ABC and D do you want to pick? Matriarch.
• 46:57
  I'm going to matriarch John. Matriarch.
• 46:59
  OK, eh, Right. You lose, you're back to 16,000.
• 47:03
  No, no, 1000 lbs. There you go.
• 47:08
  Sorry. Nice to having you the cosmic
• 47:14
  comic book. I said it'll be so amazing that
• 47:17
  the early wave figures will suddenly become really sought
• 47:21
  after and start to because I think definitely in in the US
• 47:27
  the cosmic figures and go on by what Matt Drake on his toiletics
• 47:31
  channel has been seeing. They're pretty much holding
• 47:35
  their, you know, retailer below on the secondary market.
• 47:39
  So I think the cosmic comic could be the thing that'll I I
• 47:43
  push the prices up. People go back to get ones they
• 47:46
  missed and seen how cool a particular character is.
• 47:49
  Yeah, so. I think you're.
• 47:52
  I don't know if that's a hard one to measure, but let's
• 47:54
  suppose Matt can measure it so. He's mad.
• 47:58
  I think, I think once there is more of that story out there and
• 48:02
  more of a story for people to grab onto, I think you're right.
• 48:05
  I think those figures will become more appealing and it
• 48:10
  will increase the popularity of some of the earlier ones.
• 48:12
  And you've said before, and I think you spot on, change
• 48:15
  people's views of certain characters as well.
• 48:18
  So ones that maybe aren't as popular might become more
• 48:21
  popular because of the story around them.
• 48:24
  Yeah, yeah. Like if and Byra Jambarra, if
• 48:29
  she if she's really good at cooking, you know, you know,
• 48:35
  Yeah. She's like cooking Thanksgiving.
• 48:37
  She's decent Thanksgiving. Yeah, that could really change.
• 48:42
  That could really switch her off for me.
• 48:43
  Then You know, I might need to get a second one.
• 48:46
  Have you opened yours yet, John? No, mine's still sealed.
• 48:49
  I can't. I haven't been able to pay.
• 48:51
  Myself. Yeah, No.
• 48:53
  Every other cosmic figure. I've opened the septor.
• 48:55
  Yeah, right, Mal. Oh, no.
• 49:02
  Yeah, man, back to you. I'll be back to me, right?
• 49:07
  This is a bit of a big one. I think we get another cosmic
• 49:12
  Motu tribute. Not entirely sure who.
• 49:17
  I'm just going to read what I wrote because it's for, you know
• 49:20
  what I was thinking. We saw a couple of great custom
• 49:23
  ones people did I? Actually have those pictures, do
• 49:26
  you believe? That I could see them possibly
• 49:29
  going again with, well, this is a great recipe.
• 49:31
  Let's just do this. But there is also part of me
• 49:38
  thinks that they'll that maybe these aren't the ones they'll go
• 49:42
  for because I had an idea, but I'll go on to that.
• 49:44
  We should just say so that one, I think was Hank Gasperson's
• 49:49
  version of Clawful that's on the screen now.
• 49:51
  It's fantastic. That's his version.
• 49:54
  That's also Hank's version of Cyclone, which is great.
• 49:57
  I mean, the cyclone would be so easy for them to do.
• 50:00
  And, you know, quick, that's David's David Williams, his
• 50:05
  version of Clawful, slightly different uses some of the.
• 50:10
  Yeah. Cosmic parts.
• 50:13
  Yeah, yeah. Again, great.
• 50:15
  But yeah, either build would be fantastic.
• 50:20
  That one is Joe Martinez version of Cyclone, which is cool.
• 50:27
  I think. I think we're more likely to get
• 50:31
  a Tusk head on it though, really, if they were to use this
• 50:36
  style. But I think what he's done using
• 50:38
  that dial, that chess piece actually would work
• 50:42
  fantastically well for Cyclone. Yeah.
• 50:49
  So, so we think in cosmic then for those, yeah.
• 50:52
  But actually what I wonder if they'll do, and I think this
• 50:55
  could be really cool, is if they do a horde trooper using that
• 50:59
  big bulky armor. Yeah, the that.
• 51:03
  Would look, I think that's a good shot, yeah, yeah.
• 51:06
  I think something like a Horde trooper or generic builder type
• 51:11
  one that could be really popular, yeah.
• 51:14
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think Roboto might be a
• 51:17
  shout too, with the robots that are obviously coming as part of
• 51:19
  our. Though I mean, don't see us
• 51:23
  getting like new parts in a in a Moto tribute figure.
• 51:29
  No, but if they've already dropped the parts for the robot
• 51:31
  then they can just use some of those for Roboto.
• 51:33
  I would I would love a translucent version of the Tusk.
• 51:37
  So if they made him a. Wrong.
• 51:50
  Anyway, get back to your translucent.
• 51:54
  But yeah, that'd be, that'd be cool.
• 51:56
  But now I I do wonder. But I think I think we will.
• 52:02
  Yeah. We're going to get a Horde
• 52:03
  trooper made from Velox armor. There we go.
• 52:07
  I'm saying it. And possibly a Tusk head on the
• 52:09
  top. So cool.
• 52:12
  I think we'll get a clawful and they could do that by using Oh
• 52:19
  no cosmics before. Damn it, that's good.
• 52:21
  Was that plan? But I'm also thinking we'll get
• 52:24
  crustacean folk in the G con wave.
• 52:29
  You can spot a pattern here. Yeah, so you could have the
• 52:32
  claw. You know, if they do the claw
• 52:34
  for clawful, then obviously that don't tend to do new stuff in
• 52:38
  motor tribute. But if they're already doing it
• 52:39
  for the crab people, I mean look at how well Brian sees sold.
• 52:42
  You know, me and Mal bought 1 each, he sold all the ones he
• 52:45
  had there, he sold all the ones since.
• 52:48
  So I think Crab Foka are definitely a good one, you know,
• 52:51
  gives that really sort of or not scaly but armoured bear look as
• 52:55
  well, which would be really good.
• 52:58
  You could have weapons that maybe use pincers from family
• 53:04
  members who died. This is a bit more detail than
• 53:06
  we need, but you know, it's a family thing.
• 53:08
  You know my great great grandfather's pincer, This is
• 53:10
  what I use as a weapon to slash people, etcetera.
• 53:14
  Or you can go really crazy enough lobster folk with a big
• 53:17
  long. What's your prediction here?
• 53:21
  Crab folk. My prediction is crab folk with
• 53:23
  crab pincer weapons. I don't think so.
• 53:26
  I mean you can. Use that pin.
• 53:27
  Definitely, you know, from me, I don't.
• 53:29
  Know I would love it if we did, but I just don't think we're
• 53:32
  getting them. God damn it.
• 53:35
  Right. My next, my next prediction is
• 53:39
  especially for you, Rich. So I believe that 2025 is the
• 53:46
  year we're going to see a naked barbarian in the line.
• 53:57
  Now are we talking like fully naked?
• 53:58
  Are they going to go down a different route here?
• 54:00
  No, like, you know, just just the line.
• 54:01
  Is this just the line sex? Legions we talked about.
• 54:06
  Just the loincloth, you know, like barbarian, he man,
• 54:09
  Whatever, whatever. He was called, yeah.
• 54:12
  You know, like the Norseman sent me over, my Norseman that that
• 54:16
  we got today. Look.
• 54:18
  Look at him. It's very cool.
• 54:19
  And this those other companies that do that, why sully the good
• 54:22
  name of mythic legions by? Because it's.
• 54:25
  They have the parts now look. Yeah, it is a classic look.
• 54:29
  And and just to just to, I'll stick to the team here just to
• 54:33
  really get you going. I think that the equivalent of
• 54:36
  the Armory this next year legions can't if they do it
• 54:40
  again. So I'm just going to say, OK,
• 54:41
  they do something similar again, and it's going to be build a
• 54:44
  barbarian. That would be very cool.
• 54:48
  I think they have the parts and you know, they could do the
• 54:51
  different skin tones, you know? You'd save me money.
• 54:56
  Maybe instead of doing instead of doing like heads, you know,
• 55:00
  like human heads or whatever, which might be too many Paint
• 55:03
  apps, they could do different helmets to go with the, you
• 55:06
  know, So make them all generic Barbarians.
• 55:09
  I mean, if it's in a barbarian way, there will be a lot of
• 55:11
  helmets there, it has to be said.
• 55:19
  Sure, they can do a purple barbarian just for the purple
• 55:22
  gang. I really desperately hope that's
• 55:26
  not the case and I'm going to say no to our idea.
• 55:28
  John, I can't wait if it is. I I would love them to do that,
• 55:33
  but I actually think they'll go with Tusk.
• 55:41
  Don't think they'll do can't Cosmic lesions?
• 55:43
  I'm not sure. About Cosmic.
• 55:45
  But it's a good prediction. I mean, you know, I'm just
• 55:48
  disagreeing. With you, yeah, I must admit I.
• 55:51
  Don't think they I don't they have enough parts for the toss
• 55:55
  and I and I don't think it's it's going to be as popular as
• 55:59
  say nights in mythic. So.
• 56:01
  Yeah, just. Like, look, everyone that was on
• 56:03
  our show in the run up to the year before his legions, kind of
• 56:08
  our first year of the show was favorite faction noble bear.
• 56:11
  Favorite faction noble bear? Yeah.
• 56:13
  Favorite build? Barberry, you know, Yeah.
• 56:16
  And and you're right about the normal parts they could use to
• 56:19
  do that, especially because. We should have barbarian dwarfs
• 56:22
  maybe as well, you know, but. We'll have the barbarian cloth
• 56:27
  style boots as well at that point, so yeah.
• 56:30
  There's certainly plenty of parts because I was thinking
• 56:32
  like, would they do like a 2 point O build?
• 56:36
  But then you've, you know, you've effectively got the elves
• 56:39
  and some of the female parts. So there's not a huge range
• 56:41
  there. If they did dwarves, again,
• 56:43
  there's not a massive range of parts.
• 56:46
  So I'm going to say no though, John, just on desperate.
• 56:50
  Hope. I'm proud that everything else.
• 56:51
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 56:52
  You'd rather your principles go above anything else.
• 56:56
  Have you gotten anything left on that list?
• 56:58
  Smell. Yeah, moving on to figure.
• 57:03
  Obscure for me though. So do you want to do a couple
• 57:06
  more of yours? Or should not do them.
• 57:08
  You go no, we can go between. Don't worry, people, people are
• 57:11
  people are able to go back and forth between.
• 57:13
  Right. OK.
• 57:15
  So I think we only get 2 figure obscure this year.
• 57:19
  OK, and I think I disagree. With that straight away all.
• 57:22
  Right. Yeah, I think it's too popular
• 57:25
  for them to drop one. I think they drop something
• 57:27
  else. Oh, did we get three that we
• 57:29
  did, didn't we got three this year.
• 57:30
  We got the oh, no, OK, sorry. Yeah, we'll get 3 again, but so
• 57:36
  two of them I think will get the Ghost of Christmas present.
• 57:39
  Obviously that's kind of a no brainer, but I wouldn't I think.
• 57:44
  Sure, of course. Yeah, now.
• 57:47
  Jaws. What if we get Jaws?
• 57:50
  Well, now we've got the 3.0 body.
• 57:58
  I think we get the Wendigo because apparently the Wendigo
• 58:02
  is is a story that was is like a gothic horror that was is what's
• 58:09
  it free? What's it called?
• 58:13
  What do what? Copyright for public domain.
• 58:16
  Public domain, yeah. Yeah, the Wendigo is public
• 58:18
  domain, so I think. It might be early for that 3.0
• 58:21
  bolt build. Yeah, that, that'll be boring,
• 58:24
  boringly as it sounds. I think that's the reason we
• 58:27
  wouldn't wouldn't get it already is because I don't think the
• 58:29
  tooling would be quite there yet.
• 58:31
  Possibly. Yeah, possibly.
• 58:33
  But cool chef. I mean, I'd, I'd let you carry
• 58:35
  this over to next year. You know the.
• 58:38
  Wendigo for next year. I will if if if we don't get it
• 58:41
  this. Year you know when they get
• 58:42
  those 3.0 parts back sometime this year and go oh these are
• 58:46
  these are looking great. Now we can do our when you go
• 58:48
  for next year, Yeah. And that can be the maybe the
• 58:51
  first time these parts even get out there.
• 58:53
  Yeah, I think, I think so. I'll still give you the point.
• 58:57
  We can carry that point over. Thanks.
• 59:00
  Thanks. For Figure Obscure, I did say
• 59:07
  that I think we get the Jersey Devil this year.
• 59:11
  I think they've. It's.
• 59:14
  Probably about the line is well established and I think that
• 59:18
  would be a good one. Maybe they wanted some parts to
• 59:22
  be available to make it as good as they possibly could.
• 59:25
  So that's why it didn't kind of come out sooner.
• 59:28
  But I just have the feeling it might be the right year.
• 59:31
  But I know nothing to not, no detail to tell me why that might
• 59:36
  be. You know what, what part might
• 59:38
  fit with it? I don't know.
• 59:40
  I'm not that smart. If it's in my head, it's going
• 59:44
  to look a lot like the Krampus, but perhaps with hoofs rather
• 59:49
  than you know. Oh, grampus.
• 59:54
  OH. He's got hoofs.
• 59:55
  There you go. It's going to look like a lot, A
• 59:56
  lot like the Grampus then, isn't it?
• 59:58
  It's just basically repainted. Krampus isn't the man.
• 1:00:01
  This is what you're saying there.
• 1:00:02
  Maybe on one of them? What's your next one, Rich?
• 1:00:07
  I'll I'll carry on with the figure obscura.
• 1:00:09
  So I think we'll get another Egyptian God, and I'm going to
• 1:00:13
  say so back just because that's the one I want the most to the
• 1:00:15
  crocodile God. Yes.
• 1:00:17
  So I'll introduce crocodilian features in Yeah, I think that'd
• 1:00:21
  be great. I think we will get him at some
• 1:00:24
  stage. I'm not sure this year because I
• 1:00:27
  just think it'll figure obscure and then start to look like 3
• 1:00:31
  lines. You know the the kind of
• 1:00:34
  Halloween theme, the Christmas Carol and the Egyptians you
• 1:00:40
  know. I know what you mean.
• 1:00:42
  I'm not sure they'll worry about that too much.
• 1:00:44
  They but I don't know what. You mean maybe not?
• 1:00:45
  Yeah, but they should just release the figures they think.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah, Halloween one. This is more hopeful than I, you
• 1:00:56
  know, I'm confidently predicting.
• 1:00:58
  But Doctor Jacqueline Mr. Hyde, 2 Pack.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah, that'd be good. There's so much they, you know,
• 1:01:03
  they're great with their soft goods.
• 1:01:04
  Now, you could do all sort of stuff.
• 1:01:05
  You could have, you know, Doctor Jacqueline wearing a lab coat of
• 1:01:07
  some sort. And then you've got Frank, you
• 1:01:11
  know, you've got Frankenstein then that you can effectively
• 1:01:13
  have as well sort of thing. And then I'd like hide to be
• 1:01:16
  slightly bigger figure. So maybe like a brute scale.
• 1:01:20
  But I, I like the version where he's like top hat and like tails
• 1:01:24
  and all that sort of stuff. So again, some cool soft goods
• 1:01:27
  stuff. So that would be, I think you'd
• 1:01:30
  have all sorts of potion bottles, you know, or chemicals
• 1:01:33
  and all that sort of stuff as well as part of the accessories.
• 1:01:36
  And then it would tie in quite well with the Frankenstein's
• 1:01:37
  creature then as well. Lots of it into into mixing able
• 1:01:41
  there. Do you think with Figure
• 1:01:44
  Obscuria that they're better with the kind of one off
• 1:01:48
  releases or are they better to run along A-Team?
• 1:01:50
  Because for example, if they did with Sobek now, and I'm thinking
• 1:01:55
  for them, you know, maybe not for us, if they do the Sobek now
• 1:02:01
  and people who miss the Anubis and Bastet.
• 1:02:03
  And I know it's available to to order on the website now and
• 1:02:06
  then stuff, but or if they weren't into that and they're
• 1:02:09
  probably not going to be into that.
• 1:02:11
  And so it's not going to get a wider appeal.
• 1:02:14
  Whereas if they did something like say a Red Riding Hood, that
• 1:02:18
  might go whoa. And that could just people might
• 1:02:23
  know what line is this? But like I want this figure so.
• 1:02:26
  Yeah, no, I know what you mean. I mean, they've said they're
• 1:02:28
  going to do more Egyptian ones. So, so that's why I'm thinking
• 1:02:32
  they'll just carry straight on with it this year.
• 1:02:33
  Also with the parents I understand.
• 1:02:35
  That yeah, but a Red Riding good and a big Bad Wolf 2 pack or
• 1:02:38
  something. Would be, Oh yeah, that would
• 1:02:39
  be. I don't think that's going to
• 1:02:41
  happen this year, but I think I'd be one of my top picks if I
• 1:02:45
  could pick. And then I'm wondering with the
• 1:02:49
  to the Ghost of Christmas present, which we're going to
• 1:02:51
  get. I mean, it's it basically looks
• 1:02:53
  like their Father Christmas figure that they put out already
• 1:02:57
  with a robe, green robes and everything like that.
• 1:02:59
  So they have to do something different.
• 1:03:00
  So I'm wondering whether they might go ogre scale because he's
• 1:03:02
  predict he is showing huge. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:05
  Yeah. So and then if they did that,
• 1:03:08
  then we might actually get a fat torso something and maybe a fat
• 1:03:10
  ogre torso, which could then lead to further types of ogres
• 1:03:14
  and that sort of thing in the future.
• 1:03:15
  So reasonable from that point of view that.
• 1:03:18
  'D be cool. Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:03:22
  I won't I won't agree with that. I don't think we will, but I'd
• 1:03:26
  like it, you know, I think it'll be something more long, maybe
• 1:03:34
  along more on the horror type stuff.
• 1:03:36
  So I don't know why, but I just get the feeling be more that
• 1:03:41
  direction. So vampire slash skeletons kind
• 1:03:46
  of thing. Or would that be more future?
• 1:03:49
  I don't know. It's an interesting, isn't it,
• 1:03:52
  because I actually wondered about one of them.
• 1:03:55
  My mind was Dracula. But then then I also go, but
• 1:04:01
  they'll keep that. I don't know if they'll want to
• 1:04:03
  do because they have their own version of vampires.
• 1:04:08
  Will they want to do a gothic horror version of that
• 1:04:13
  character? You know, but it is.
• 1:04:16
  But look. Also with look at the bonus head
• 1:04:18
  with yeah, the Christmas past. So.
• 1:04:22
  Then I guess also you've got Operation Monster Force, which
• 1:04:24
  has Dracula, and it's freshly out, so would you want to
• 1:04:29
  compete against that? And even if your stuff's better
• 1:04:31
  potentially, would you want to compete against it?
• 1:04:34
  Yeah, mightn't you'd rather do complimentary figures if you're
• 1:04:39
  thinking of maximising it? Yeah, but no, I I agree with
• 1:04:42
  what you said, John, I think, I think stand alone figures like
• 1:04:45
  Red Riding Hood or something like that would be better.
• 1:04:49
  But they've committed to the Christmas Carol now.
• 1:04:52
  They've committed to the Egyptian stuff.
• 1:04:53
  So, you know, we're just waffling away here.
• 1:04:56
  They know the numbers. Of course they make the we'll
• 1:05:00
  we'll understand the numbers if the base on what comes out, you
• 1:05:03
  know, if they start doing if they drop the kind of the kind
• 1:05:09
  of whatever team lines and just go for one off figures, we'll
• 1:05:13
  understand that. If they do more along the same
• 1:05:16
  team, then we go well, they must be selling pretty well.
• 1:05:18
  So yeah, right. My next one is the legions
• 1:05:24
  tactics game will finally be released in whatever whatever
• 1:05:28
  version it is, and people will just go whatever they won't
• 1:05:33
  care. Unfortunately, at this point,
• 1:05:37
  there'll be a little bit of like, there'll be a couple of
• 1:05:39
  real dedicated people to it, but everyone else would be like, you
• 1:05:43
  know, it will. Depend how good it is, and I'm
• 1:05:46
  not sure that they can. Make you.
• 1:05:47
  That's the problem. That's yeah, it's it wasn't an
• 1:05:51
  original idea in the 1st place. So multiple years down the line
• 1:05:57
  when some of those games that were like that aren't as popular
• 1:06:02
  or have their own crowd. What's it like when you think of
• 1:06:05
  Moore's Law with the with technology every 18 months,
• 1:06:08
  everything double s in, you know, speed and, and I know some
• 1:06:14
  games do take ages to come out, but you know, they, they are
• 1:06:18
  specifically for a particular market and you know, they're
• 1:06:22
  gamers games. This is a game.
• 1:06:24
  They're a lot more complex, you know, and even if this is really
• 1:06:28
  complex, you know, it's aimed primarily firstly at toy
• 1:06:33
  collectors or fans of the line and then secondly, to try and
• 1:06:37
  get a wider audience. But I just don't see, I just
• 1:06:42
  don't see it kind of being anything from here,
• 1:06:45
  unfortunately, because I was excited about it initially, you
• 1:06:48
  know? Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  So I don't know. So you you agree or disagree
• 1:06:56
  with that? I don't think we'll see it this
• 1:06:59
  year. I think it's going to drive.
• 1:07:00
  See it this year. No, I think it's going to drag
• 1:07:02
  on again. So you think we'll just keep?
• 1:07:04
  Getting they've been so slow with it.
• 1:07:06
  I Yeah. You think we'll just keep
• 1:07:08
  getting these kind of versions? Whatever, but not like the final
• 1:07:13
  version. Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't
• 1:07:15
  have the right game design, but I think it's taken so long at
• 1:07:18
  this point, surely the people working on it are doing
• 1:07:20
  something else as well, which is why it's taking this long.
• 1:07:23
  So I think I'll just keep dragging and dragging and
• 1:07:25
  dragging because they obviously got their money upfront through
• 1:07:29
  it. So, you know, Horsemen, although
• 1:07:32
  it's their property, aren't really involved in it now, so
• 1:07:35
  they're not necessarily pushing them for it.
• 1:07:37
  So I think I've in my head the developers are doing something
• 1:07:41
  else at the same time and this is almost like a part time thing
• 1:07:43
  there. So it's going to drag on and
• 1:07:44
  drag on. OK.
• 1:07:47
  I hope I'm wrong, but I think that's what it is.
• 1:07:52
  Right now, give us a take us lift the mood here.
• 1:07:57
  Right, so I think I only really got.
• 1:08:02
  One, our whole goal here is to keep Rich from just going down.
• 1:08:06
  Just going on and on and on about lizards.
• 1:08:08
  I've only got one. I've only got one more sea
• 1:08:11
  species left to go through, don't worry.
• 1:08:13
  Right. So I've continuing the continue
• 1:08:20
  the figure Obscura, I think retailer Frankenstein, I think a
• 1:08:25
  lot of people are expecting it to be green.
• 1:08:27
  I don't think we'll get green. I think they've all kind of said
• 1:08:30
  we can't do green. That's Universal's version of
• 1:08:33
  it. OK.
• 1:08:34
  So I, I don't know if that was what exactly.
• 1:08:37
  I feel like it was something like that was said but not he's.
• 1:08:41
  Working off knowledge here, Rich.
• 1:08:42
  I don't that's not. I'm just throwing things down 5
• 1:08:46
  minutes from the record. But I think it'll be like
• 1:08:49
  mixtures of flesh colours, you know, like.
• 1:08:52
  The saturated fleshy colours. So more more zombie like, yeah.
• 1:08:57
  You know, like dumb bodies rather than rather than the
• 1:09:01
  yellowish colour, Yeah. He's he's not got jaundice, he's
• 1:09:05
  got full on like, you know, whatever leprosy.
• 1:09:08
  Yeah, something hot. Yeah.
• 1:09:11
  It's OK, he's a bit of green. He's got gangrene in his dead
• 1:09:13
  limbs. Who'd a guest?
• 1:09:18
  But yeah, so that's my final, final, final.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah, Noah and the myth and the most recent Mythic Neighbours
• 1:09:25
  podcast was talking about this paint from it's an effect paint
• 1:09:28
  from a company called Dirty Down.
• 1:09:30
  And I have their I've actually had their roast and their
• 1:09:32
  verdict green and stuff. They have one now called snot
• 1:09:36
  and it's basically like a kind of glory.
• 1:09:39
  It's like green, green, obviously snot green colour and
• 1:09:42
  it's kind of gluey gooping constituent inconsistency.
• 1:09:47
  And you can actually kind of, you know, make kind of like it's
• 1:09:51
  texture. So you can kind of make it into
• 1:09:53
  a kind of snotty shape and you know, put use it like kind of
• 1:09:56
  between teeth or whatever. You know, they could get a bit
• 1:10:02
  of that for Frankenstein coming out of those wigs.
• 1:10:05
  That ties in with my next cosmic prediction.
• 1:10:07
  It's not people. It's not people, right?
• 1:10:14
  Is that your next prediction, Rich?
• 1:10:16
  No, it's a cephalopod. Also close to the cephalopods.
• 1:10:21
  Yeah, tentacles, beaks, the whole lot is great.
• 1:10:24
  But then that takes me to what? Hunts the sea people.
• 1:10:30
  And this is this is the one. I think it's a genius.
• 1:10:32
  Naked Barbarians. No, it is bird people.
• 1:10:39
  Yeah. And.
• 1:10:40
  They've they've been there, they've done that.
• 1:10:43
  No, no, no, no, no, stay with me.
• 1:10:45
  So they need something that preys on the sea.
• 1:10:47
  Folk birds eat sea creatures. It's a, you know, well known
• 1:10:51
  thing. And this would give them the
• 1:10:53
  bird buck which they can then use on Etheron version 2 so they
• 1:10:58
  can get more use out of it rather than just using it on
• 1:11:01
  Etheron. Version 2 this year.
• 1:11:03
  Yeah, so, so I think they'll do that and they could have like
• 1:11:06
  Pelicans, albatrosses, gold, all sorts of different.
• 1:11:09
  I mean, I wouldn't go crazy, but you could have two or three
• 1:11:12
  different types of bird heads and that sort of stuff.
• 1:11:14
  And then you've got the ether build.
• 1:11:16
  Do you think they'll use the three-point O system for ether
• 1:11:19
  on? I think they.
• 1:11:21
  Give more. Possibly.
• 1:11:23
  They certainly would have to do it differently the last time
• 1:11:24
  because they do fall over like there's no tomorrow the the
• 1:11:26
  original birds. Not that adding more
• 1:11:30
  articulation is going to help the figure stand up, let's be
• 1:11:32
  honest. But.
• 1:11:34
  Alan said differently, perhaps. Yeah, so that's my that's my
• 1:11:38
  ball signal dancing to put on the back of the head sort of a
• 1:11:41
  thing. It's like bird folk which then
• 1:11:43
  double S up his ether on figure. Pretty cool.
• 1:11:47
  OK, my next one is a big one. I think this is the year we get
• 1:11:51
  Celine and Helios. It's a big A.
• 1:11:57
  It's a biggie. I'm not so sure if we're getting
• 1:12:00
  because we it felt like they were saying not just that we'd
• 1:12:06
  get ether on and what's the name from so?
• 1:12:14
  Loner. So as I loner felt like they
• 1:12:17
  weren't just saying in the future you get them.
• 1:12:19
  It felt like they were saying in the future this year you'll get
• 1:12:22
  them, didn't it? So that's that's a couple of
• 1:12:24
  biggies right there as well. So I think having.
• 1:12:28
  Yeah. But I mean, you know, OK, if
• 1:12:32
  they're announced AG con, you're still two to three years down
• 1:12:36
  the road. You know, that's that's that's
• 1:12:39
  my point. Unless when Jeremy's hint and
• 1:12:43
  people will know the answer to this because he's going to
• 1:12:44
  reveal it tonight. I think he's new.
• 1:12:46
  Is it tonight or next week? Next week, Next week, they
• 1:12:48
  won't. Know maybe he's out of this
• 1:12:50
  world hint was as their two gods that came from space and made
• 1:12:56
  the continent of ethos that's they could be coming out.
• 1:13:00
  It's a stretch, but I'm just saying it's, you know.
• 1:13:04
  Definitely not. OK.
• 1:13:07
  So do you agree or disagree on Celine and Elias?
• 1:13:10
  I I don't think we will. I'm not sure we'll ever see it
• 1:13:12
  to be honest, but so I think. It'll be the same so I can do.
• 1:13:15
  I told you so. You can.
• 1:13:17
  Yes, you can. Good.
• 1:13:18
  Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Told you so.
• 1:13:20
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:13:21
  And the two of you can do told you so with every type of sea
• 1:13:23
  creature that I've mentioned, every time.
• 1:13:26
  We will be. We will.
• 1:13:27
  Doesn't have. Sharks and whatever.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah, right now back to you. That's all I got at my.
• 1:13:34
  I wasn't OK creative unfortunately.
• 1:13:38
  So before we get to Rich's massive list, I just going to
• 1:13:42
  do. I've got much left.
• 1:13:45
  Good, good. I'm just going to do a couple of
• 1:13:49
  logistical kind of boring ones, but I don't think that Rising
• 1:13:53
  Suns will be delivered this year and I don't think that we'll get
• 1:13:59
  the next cosmic wave announced until they start shipping the ox
• 1:14:02
  crew. So whether it's, you know,
• 1:14:06
  shipping like it's on a boat or. You know that that should tie in
• 1:14:10
  with Ishcon though, shouldn't it?
• 1:14:11
  Because they. Yeah.
• 1:14:12
  They said they're doing that would just that would just.
• 1:14:17
  Kind of preclude, yeah, that would preclude as kind of an in
• 1:14:21
  between cosmic wave. Now could be talking crap here,
• 1:14:26
  but they seem to run at like 3 lead, 3 mythics waves kind of in
• 1:14:32
  pre-order status, various states of pre-order.
• 1:14:36
  That's their kind of going rate. There's always kind of three
• 1:14:39
  waves on the way and cosmic has been 1:00 to 2:00, mostly 2.
• 1:14:47
  So I think this would, if they did another cosmic wave now we'd
• 1:14:51
  have three and three waves kind of waiting for.
• 1:14:55
  So that's kind of that's my logic there.
• 1:14:59
  It's interesting actually the, the, the waves aren't getting
• 1:15:03
  any quicker. There was a big thing, wasn't
• 1:15:05
  it, what, 12 months ago where they're taking on an extra
• 1:15:06
  factory? Yeah, the delays here.
• 1:15:11
  In between stuff, if you know what I mean, like the whatever
• 1:15:15
  kind of one off figures or you know so.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah, yeah. I just, you know, it's.
• 1:15:21
  Just that kind of stuff. They were so dead set, weren't
• 1:15:23
  they, that we're going to, you know, we have a delay now and we
• 1:15:26
  speed it all up and actually it's got slower, if anything,
• 1:15:29
  and they're still backed up for those.
• 1:15:30
  Get quicker though. I mean I'm I'm absolutely
• 1:15:33
  snookered here with the display space.
• 1:15:35
  Yes, this is true. This is very true.
• 1:15:37
  I love nothing. I'll be done with my customs for
• 1:15:40
  the year, I'll just be spending the year sorting out jobs.
• 1:15:46
  Yeah, right there with you. Have you got another one for a
• 1:15:50
  switch there? Yeah, so Cosmic One, we will
• 1:15:54
  have the Wasteland Warlord in Ox Crew book 3.
• 1:15:58
  So they talk about the character in the Thraxian Hunter bio.
• 1:16:02
  They said there's talk of a wasteland warlord.
• 1:16:06
  So I I'm guessing that character will come.
• 1:16:12
  That's that's my. Would that not prediction be a
• 1:16:13
  Thraxian kind of like you said, the matriarch?
• 1:16:16
  Would that not be that? No, I think you'll be a
• 1:16:18
  different species. I think the Thraxians might be
• 1:16:22
  doing its bidding. So I'm.
• 1:16:24
  Thinking which sort of reptile would it be?
• 1:16:27
  There's nothing reptile but I was thinking I want it to be
• 1:16:30
  some sort of super fat alien. Like, of course, yeah.
• 1:16:35
  That has to be like carried around by retainers because he,
• 1:16:38
  he or she is such a big. You you would blow the tooling
• 1:16:41
  budget of the toy. I would completely. 5 minutes.
• 1:16:43
  You'd all have to be roto cast or wherever it is, it's a slug.
• 1:16:47
  Body, haven't they? They've got the slug body.
• 1:16:48
  It could be. Well, it's what had me slightly
• 1:16:50
  worried is Slug, who's obviously a chunky monkey, isn't he?
• 1:16:52
  So I'm not sure whether they want another bad guy, is it?
• 1:16:56
  A big A. Big fat fella.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah, but I definitely think we'll get the Wasteland Warlord
• 1:17:01
  revealed in Oxcrew 3 for Oxcrew. Three I I'm sorry.
• 1:17:06
  Yeah, go. I was going to say I also think
• 1:17:08
  we'll get on off if we don't get robots.
• 1:17:11
  So there's a caveat here. I think we'll get a Cyborg scape
• 1:17:15
  scape haven character and I think they'll do similar to what
• 1:17:19
  Mal did in in terms of they could just use the skeleton
• 1:17:21
  parts, silver them up and you've got the sort of Cyborg limbs and
• 1:17:26
  that showing through that way. Cool, cool.
• 1:17:31
  For us Q3 I had that we I think we're going to get a ship dial
• 1:17:35
  piece some sort of a either like a bit of a cockpit or a bit of a
• 1:17:39
  crashed ship. I think that would be really
• 1:17:44
  cool piece to to round out the the kind of wave.
• 1:17:47
  And they did have that ship at Legions Con in a display along
• 1:17:53
  with that big Dragon vehicle, which I think is not for this
• 1:17:58
  year. But I think that maybe the next
• 1:18:00
  big thing they do, similar to the Dragon might be that.
• 1:18:03
  That would be very cool. All that big boogie thing that
• 1:18:07
  they have. That really, but that's what
• 1:18:08
  it's called the. Dragon, was that what you're
• 1:18:10
  talking about? So I thought it's about the.
• 1:18:12
  Crash chip then it's not called the Dragon, but that's what
• 1:18:15
  people have been calling it. Or.
• 1:18:19
  Or they'll start doing bath figures, so that'll be you'll
• 1:18:21
  get a tire with each figure. From.
• 1:18:26
  Imagine all the customizers with just like stacks of tires from
• 1:18:30
  all the figures that they bought for extras for customizing.
• 1:18:35
  It's like quite. You have like a junkyard, cosmic
• 1:18:37
  junkyard and your little tires you can Chucky in the air and
• 1:18:39
  then a few of the bits. Why are all your figures
• 1:18:41
  displayed on tires? I mean your legal, I didn't have
• 1:18:45
  any figure stands, but I'd love these tires, right?
• 1:18:51
  I've got, if that's all right, John.
• 1:18:54
  Yeah. I think with the retailer wave
• 1:19:00
  for the figure obscurers, I think we're going to get black
• 1:19:05
  skinned or furred Anubis and Bastet versions rather than the
• 1:19:09
  brown that we had. Or if they were really wanted to
• 1:19:12
  go crazy, they could do Anubis in grey, which would make him
• 1:19:15
  wep a wet. Who's his brother?
• 1:19:18
  So they're they're portrayed pretty much the same, but with a
• 1:19:22
  grey head as opposed to a blackhead.
• 1:19:23
  That's the full black blue head that they went.
• 1:19:25
  So that's a straightforward way, OK.
• 1:19:27
  I'll agree with that one. Yeah, I think we will get a
• 1:19:30
  green Frankenstein. I I know what you're saying
• 1:19:32
  about Universal, but I think they'll go down the green route.
• 1:19:35
  And I said that gross, just about translucent.
• 1:19:38
  So yeah, that's my figure. Obscure retailer wave guesses.
• 1:19:43
  OK. And what about anymore shadow
• 1:19:45
  circle? Do you think we got any more of
• 1:19:46
  them? No.
• 1:19:49
  No, I don't. You will actually.
• 1:19:51
  No. OK.
• 1:19:54
  I think, I think to be honest, it was probably a one off
• 1:19:56
  character and the shadow circle or whatever you want to make
• 1:20:00
  them. I think it was kind of just a.
• 1:20:02
  More per customizer stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:06
  And Matt Stein has had all the fun and right.
• 1:20:12
  I my last one, I believe is that I think we get a new troll in
• 1:20:17
  2025. It's time for that last troll
• 1:20:21
  and from the box art or similar. So I think and.
• 1:20:26
  I guess that would fit in the. Histories of mythos or the
• 1:20:29
  whatever the yeah. Is that what you're going to
• 1:20:32
  say? Yeah, I agree with that.
• 1:20:34
  It's not on my list, but I agree with that, Jonathan.
• 1:20:35
  Yeah, that's really good Shout. I think good shout, yeah.
• 1:20:39
  And so I think if it's going with that one on the box art, I
• 1:20:42
  think a kind of a yellow color. So if you think we've got the
• 1:20:46
  orange Brontos, we've got the ice troll in blue, we've got the
• 1:20:50
  green forest roll, the kind of, I suppose, stone colored stone
• 1:20:55
  troll. Yeah, so maybe a desert.
• 1:20:58
  Troll. So this kind of yeah, yellow
• 1:21:01
  would go well with that. Yeah, the yellow or else maybe
• 1:21:05
  red, but it might be too close to to Brontos.
• 1:21:08
  There'd be a lot of. People yellow was the idea.
• 1:21:09
  Yellow was looking more like the Earth Fury troll, yeah.
• 1:21:13
  People that that would be very popular.
• 1:21:17
  Fury clan is always popular so that's me out.
• 1:21:20
  What about you, Rich? I've got two things left.
• 1:21:23
  OK, so. So, listeners, there we go.
• 1:21:26
  That's. Two very long lists of things.
• 1:21:32
  Yeah, exactly. Just opens a bit of paper.
• 1:21:33
  Here we go. So the first thing is the
• 1:21:37
  legions first time sideshow line that they're doing.
• 1:21:42
  Unfortunately, I think the first figure that comes out will be
• 1:21:45
  Atlas. I think Barbarians Barbarians
• 1:21:50
  are such a popular fan. Of just.
• 1:21:53
  Like, yeah. Fly out the window.
• 1:21:57
  I don't see how. To be a legions con.
• 1:22:02
  So I'm going to disagree with that and I'm going to say it's
• 1:22:04
  going to be Arathir and. I'm going.
• 1:22:07
  To see what I had done, I was going to say if yeah, I put down
• 1:22:12
  here as well. If they do 2 then I'd say we are
• 1:22:15
  the Arathea or Scapula to go alongside him.
• 1:22:18
  Again, they're going to do demons.
• 1:22:20
  I think they're going to do the Dark 4 starting with Arathea.
• 1:22:23
  So the same like the Horseman did.
• 1:22:25
  I'm going to disagree, and I think it'll either be Lee
• 1:22:28
  Odysseus, not Lee Odysseus. What's his name?
• 1:22:32
  Attila, because his arm is so cool.
• 1:22:35
  They do. They make.
• 1:22:36
  I mean, he's a Dick, but his arm is fantastic.
• 1:22:38
  I couldn't say. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:40
  I just think, Eric, there is more wide appeal.
• 1:22:43
  I just think people, well, that's metal, you know, instead
• 1:22:46
  of who's this night fella, you know?
• 1:22:49
  I don't know. I think you'd be surprised the
• 1:22:51
  kind of people who buy those things.
• 1:22:53
  Or maybe yeah, yeah, yeah. But I actually, I actually think
• 1:22:57
  it'll be a DIO piece as well. So I think it'll be him versus
• 1:23:00
  Gorgo in some really cool dynamic.
• 1:23:03
  Fights. I've heard that, I've heard
• 1:23:05
  somebody else say that and. I think I've said.
• 1:23:09
  It as well that would be an expense even for sideshow that
• 1:23:13
  being expensive way to start off it's.
• 1:23:15
  Going to be 1000 plus pounds so. I think, I think just, I just
• 1:23:21
  say no to that because the horsemen have done it already.
• 1:23:23
  That's they've done a Nutella Corgo 2 pack.
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  So yeah, maybe they would advise them, you know how we've kind of
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  done that guys you maybe want to do.
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  And maybe Arith here, being the oldest of the Dark 4 now they
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  might update the look a little bit with the blessing of the
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  Horsemen and obviously being a statue, you can do one more kind
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  of detail and stuff that you didn't have.
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  Yeah. Doom.
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  A slightly bigger scale maybe then, yeah.
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  And that sort of demon look is really popular, isn't it?
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  You know, through all sorts of different lines, demons always
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  go well. Yeah, the mental aspect of it
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  definitely is. Yeah, as in heavy.
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  OK. Last prediction Rich.
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  So this is, this is a little out there, I'm not going to lie.
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  So this is, yeah, they set sail and they land on a different, we
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  all, we find ourselves the, the audience, the customers set sail
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  and find themselves on a different continent in mythos.
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  And they get there and there's all these like massive giant
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  trees and this sort of stuff. And they're like, what the hell?
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  This is all really big. And all of a sudden one of them
• 1:24:35
  feels pain in his leg and he looks down and there's like a
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  little dart in his leg. Looks especially like it could
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  have come from like a giant daffodil seed or, you know,
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  things that float away when they get old, something like that in
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  his leg. And he's like, what the hell is
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  that? And he's confused.
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  And then out from the bushes comes an evil little gnome.
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  Sharp get off. I mean, I hope we get.
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  This sounds like some garden in Germany that I drive past every
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  other day. But no, I think I, I gnomes, I
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  think people always regard them as like good things generally,
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  but I think like a proper evil little race of so and so's.
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  Oh no. Or craft looking names.
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  They're my favorites, yeah. But then you could also have a
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  mount, so you can have a fox or a badger or something like that
• 1:25:27
  as a mount, because they're so small that they can ride one of
• 1:25:30
  those into battle. And to go alongside the gnomes,
• 1:25:34
  they're mortal enemies. The good guys are fungi folk.
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  Now. I can see John's eyes.
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  He's not impressed. But you got all sorts of options
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  for different toadstool hats. All this sort of thing can do
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  all sorts of great stuff you could have like fungi, things
• 1:25:53
  growing out of their armour and that sort of stuff.
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  Lots of weathering patterns, all this sort of stuff.
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  It's. I mean.
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  It's a great combo. To be fair, the horsemen did
• 1:26:04
  design the master verse Mossman. They clearly like that kind of
• 1:26:08
  character, so maybe. Don't bring most man into.
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  This. He's a plant man, Yeah, but.
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  He's not Bloody Mushroom or Gnome or any of that other shit
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  you're doing. So that's my out there
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  prediction, but you never know that.
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  Was the best of being. Horseman, horseman, don't waste
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  your time with that. Right.
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  Stick to what you're good at, don't listen to him.
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  I like the fact that you beat the ball previous, that was
• 1:26:44
  amazing. So yeah, I.
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  Would you all right? Start your own company if you
• 1:26:50
  want to do that craft, Richard. OK.
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  So you heard you heard it this year they've.
• 1:26:55
  You know, they talked about no. Yeah, look, another glass of
• 1:26:57
  wine. Yeah, you're going to need one
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  to. Jones's Garden folk figure line
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  will be starting up this year. Anyway, we'd love to hear your
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  predictions. Listeners drop a comment on the
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  YouTube. If you listen on Spotify, you
• 1:27:10
  can also comment there. Do your
• 1:27:12
  religionspodcast@gmail.com. That's a good place sent to send
• 1:27:16
  us a long list if you can do. How many pages do you do Rich?
• 1:27:19
  4. So if you can do 5 pages, you've
• 1:27:22
  beaten rich, so you know, maybe font size 38 or something.
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  Or comment on our Facebook or Instagram post around this
• 1:27:33
  episode. We didn't share it in the cabal
• 1:27:36
  this week and it made zero difference to listen to watch.
• 1:27:40
  So I guess we don't need to do that anymore unless there's like
• 1:27:44
  a live stream or something. Maybe that's a good day.
• 1:27:46
  That's a good time to drop it in there.
• 1:27:49
  So anyway, before Rich starts talking about more gnomes or
• 1:27:53
  mushroom men or whatever else, sharks, lizards, whatever,