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The Central Focus of Bible Prophecy | Bill Salus · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast everyone. Mondo Gonzalez here in studio
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Speaker 1: with a great friend Bill Solace, and we're going to
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Speaker 1: be looking at what has been happening, certainly in the
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Speaker 1: Middle East, specifically Israel. As you all know, October seventh,
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Speaker 1: a war started. And one of the things that Bill
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Speaker 1: did he wrote a great article for our magazine in
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Speaker 1: the February twenty twenty four magazine where he looked at
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Speaker 1: things at the events in twenty twenty three and also
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Speaker 1: kind of gave some information at what he thought could
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Speaker 1: happen in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2: So so Bill, welcome, Yes, exactly, and centered in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East. Primarily, we took a look at what happened
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Speaker 2: last year in twenty twenty three and projected, well, what
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Speaker 2: then could that platform and spring into in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and what you're saying, Bill, too, is
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Speaker 1: that there's so many passes of scripture that you've been
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Speaker 1: writing about and that speak about again, these scenarios that
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Speaker 1: are happening, which again could happen. Nobody's saying this that
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Speaker 1: this will happen. But the other thing too is that
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Speaker 1: when people look out and they wonder Israel is at
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Speaker 1: the center of everything. And I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: that for a moment, because as we get to the
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Speaker 1: end of the age, God keeps Israel at the center
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Speaker 1: of world events. And we know that in the Tribulation
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Speaker 1: it's Jeremiah thirty verse seven. It's a time of Jacob's trouble.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. Why does God keep Israel centered?
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Speaker 2: Well, one of the primary reasons in the End Times
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Speaker 2: is God has big plans for little Israel, and we
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Speaker 2: find that in Ezekiel, the prophecies of Ezekiel thirty eight
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Speaker 2: and thirty nine, one of the marquis events of the
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Speaker 2: End Times. Of course, the regathering of Israel in nineteen
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Speaker 2: forty eight was sort of the start of the book ends.
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Speaker 2: Israel's back in the land, fulfilling the ability to fulfill
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Speaker 2: End Times prophecies. That's when many of us believe was
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Speaker 2: the sign of the End Times clock, the hourglass turning
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Speaker 2: over in the End Times, starting the End Times clock ticking.
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Speaker 2: But what's going to happen ultimately in the Ezekiel thirty
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Speaker 2: eight confrontation where Russia brings forward this massive coalition with Turkey,
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Speaker 2: Iran and other countries from Northern Africa and some of
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Speaker 2: the breakaway Soviet Union republics countries to invade Israel for
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Speaker 2: plunder and booty. Many of your viewers are going to
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Speaker 2: be aware of that prophecy. But God's going to stop
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Speaker 2: that supernaturally, not the American forces, not the Israely defense forces.
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Speaker 2: It's too formidable for Israel to stop. So God gets
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Speaker 2: involved supernaturally. We find out with a massive earthquake. There'll
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Speaker 2: be hysteria friendly you know, every man sort of against
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Speaker 2: his brother. We find flooding hailstones, flooding rains, great hailstones,
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Speaker 2: far and brimstone, etc. The world will be clear that
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Speaker 2: that was the God of the Bible that protected Israel
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Speaker 2: against that massive invasion. Because after that's all done, it
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Speaker 2: says in Ezekiel thirty ninety seven, I will make my
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Speaker 2: holy name known in the midst of my people Israel.
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Speaker 2: They shall not profane it anymore, and the nation we
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Speaker 2: shall know that I'm the Lord. Now that's not necessarily
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Speaker 2: a salvation al is that's an awareness that the God
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Speaker 2: of the Bible supernaturally protected Israel, and so he's going
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Speaker 2: to put the world on official notice through that event.
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Speaker 2: Through Israel, my people Israeli calls them Ezekiel thirty ninety seven,
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Speaker 2: the chosen people of the Abrahamaic Covenant, the unconditional Abrahamaic Covenant,
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Speaker 2: and the Holy One in Israel, it says at the
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Speaker 2: end of Ezekiel three ninety seven, and the Promised Land.
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Speaker 2: So you have to have the chosen people of the
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Speaker 2: Jews in the land. They got back through in nineteen
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Speaker 2: forty eighth. They're still coming back and the Land of
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Speaker 2: Israel is reinstated as the nation of Israel at that time.
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Speaker 2: So those things are in place, and God's going to
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Speaker 2: put the world on notice. Hees the Covenant keeping God
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Speaker 2: of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and the Promise keeping God
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Speaker 2: of those with their faith in Jesus Christ, and that's
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Speaker 2: the primary event in the end times that He's going
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Speaker 2: to do that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing, Bill, as we think about what God
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Speaker 1: is doing here at the end of the age, and
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Speaker 1: the fascinating thing about it all is that God will
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Speaker 1: not allow the world to do what they want. He's
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Speaker 1: going to keep Israel centered, and the fact that Israel
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Speaker 1: is involved in so much of what we see of
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Speaker 1: the geopolitics. It reminds people always to look at this
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Speaker 1: country as well as to know that this country is
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Speaker 1: in the Bible. And so it forces in my mind
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Speaker 1: a biblical conversation. People are going to say, well, why
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Speaker 1: don't these people just go away, Well, they're in the Bible.
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Speaker 1: The Bible promises the land. We look at Romans nine.
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Speaker 1: These are the covenants we worship. The God of Israel.
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Speaker 1: Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. The United Nations as we
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Speaker 1: know it, condemns Israel more than anybody else. And so
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Speaker 1: when we think about this, it sets the stage for
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Speaker 1: the end of the age and Israel again being centered.
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Speaker 1: But one of the things that you did in the
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Speaker 1: article was you gave an update on twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: So why don't we start there, So it kind of
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Speaker 1: give us an update on what you wrote about and
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Speaker 1: that happened in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do want to do that. I do
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Speaker 2: want to say one last thing about it God working
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Speaker 2: through Israel at this point in time, and why he's
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Speaker 2: allowed the world leaders to run him up, you know,
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Speaker 2: and the world being such a bizarre mess that it
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Speaker 2: is in chadoch at this point. He's a long suffering God,
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Speaker 2: as we know. I believe that the Ezekiel thirty eight prophecy,
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Speaker 2: for multiple reasons, is a pre tribulation event. I won't
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Speaker 2: get into all the reasons, but one of them I
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Speaker 2: believe is because God, as a loving God, wants to
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Speaker 2: let the world know he's a loving God who keeps
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Speaker 2: his promises and his covenants before the tribulation period, because
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Speaker 2: the Antichrist is going to come on the scene and
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Speaker 2: he's going to try to convince people to worship him,
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Speaker 2: and God wants to give him the true alternative to
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Speaker 2: worship God. Prior to that, He's going to let the
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Speaker 2: world know he's the loving God or the Bible who
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Speaker 2: keeps his promises. And that's why I think one of
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Speaker 2: the reasons he's allowed to get where it's at now,
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Speaker 2: He's going to force people to come back and realize, say, listen,
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Speaker 2: I'm here, I exist, I wrote the Bible, I protect Israel, etc.
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Speaker 2: I'm the defender of that nation and the lover of
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Speaker 2: all peoples.
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Speaker 1: You know exactly I mean that is perfectly said, because
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Speaker 1: for example, let's take the Book of Romans, and when
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Speaker 1: we see the tremendouses promises that are found in the
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Speaker 1: Book of Romans, we look at Romans one sixteen, where
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Speaker 1: Paul says, I'm not ashamed of the gospel. It's the
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Speaker 1: power about and the salvation, you know, basically from Old
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Speaker 1: Testament and New Testament, all in the verse seventeen. And
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Speaker 1: then he begins to share these rich promises of the
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Speaker 1: Gospel itself. You know that everybody's condemned to Romans three,
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Speaker 1: we're saved by faith in Romans four, and we're justified
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Speaker 1: and we are exempted from God's wrath and Romans five
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Speaker 1: to nine, and so you have these rich things. Well,
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Speaker 1: when you get to Romans eight, we have this big
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Speaker 1: crescendo of the gospel and Romans eight one, there's now
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Speaker 1: there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ. You
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Speaker 1: get to the end of Romans and he says, what
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Speaker 1: will separate us from the love of Christ? And then
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Speaker 1: the question comes up in people's mind mind, is that, Well,
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Speaker 1: if that's so amazing, what about Israel? Where does Israel
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Speaker 1: fit in? If the promises of God are so true,
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Speaker 1: then what about Israel? And that is a great question,
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Speaker 1: and it reminds us because Paul then goes into Romans nine,
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Speaker 1: ten to eleven, where he begins to answer how God
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Speaker 1: has fulfilled his promises in the current age to the
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Speaker 1: people of Israel. But it also brings up to the
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Speaker 1: bigger picture. Will God keep his promises to national Israel?
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Speaker 1: Because we know that the Jewish people of the first centuries, again,
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Speaker 1: the first believers were Jewish, then they were incorporated in
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Speaker 1: what we know as the Church. But what about nationals?
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Speaker 1: Is God going to keep his promises that we have
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Speaker 1: in the Old Testament, and so we know that here
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Speaker 1: we are at the end of the age. It does
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Speaker 1: make that happen. And so as we think about that,
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Speaker 1: let's transition a little bit to some of the players,
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Speaker 1: because in twenty twenty three Bill I mean again, God's
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Speaker 1: keeping Israel at the center. He's going to keep his promises.
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Speaker 1: But there's so many players involved. We have Hebelah on
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Speaker 1: the north, SyRI in the northeast, even Jordan to the east.
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Speaker 1: Egypt's kind of hanging out down in the southwest, and
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Speaker 1: of course, as we know, we have Gaza. Those are
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Speaker 1: the immediate neighbors. And then of course we have Iran
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Speaker 1: and others around. So let's talk about that, and let's
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Speaker 1: talk about some of the big events that happened with
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Speaker 1: these players. In twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the elephant in the room, and
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Speaker 2: that's Iran. And I'm going to invite the viewers to
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Speaker 2: stay tuned because we're going to get into some scenarios
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Speaker 2: that you and I talked about. After we set the
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Speaker 2: stage of what happened in the past years, we look
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Speaker 2: forward into this new year, and I think it really
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Speaker 2: very prophetic, dealing with multiple prophecies. It seemed to be
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Speaker 2: aligning presently as the stage has been set in this
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three this past year. So I certainly want
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Speaker 2: you guys to stick around for that segment because Mondo
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Speaker 2: and I had some backstage conversations that were really quite interesting.
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Speaker 2: Even found it very interesting with respects to your spinning
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Speaker 2: a couple of things that I was talking about. But
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Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty three with Iran, a lot of
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Speaker 2: things happened with Iran. Of course, they strengthened their relationship
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Speaker 2: with Hesbala Hamas. Of course, a lot of the Hamas
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Speaker 2: leaders and some of their troops trained in Iran before
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Speaker 2: October seventh. We find that out from the New York Times.
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Speaker 2: Even though Iran tries to deny their involvement in the
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Speaker 2: massacre on October seventh. We realize otherwise with Syria as well,
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Speaker 2: they got involved with moving more and more missiles into
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Speaker 2: Hesbala's hands, into the Juti's hands. Of course, the Houtis
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Speaker 2: down below by Yemen have been using those missiles from
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Speaker 2: Iran that they got in twenty twenty three to choke
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Speaker 2: off commerce on the Red Sea. Of course, the United
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Speaker 2: States has gotten involved with a coalition, namely Britain, but
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Speaker 2: the other countries too, who at this point are trying
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Speaker 2: to stay somewhat anonymous, some of them to try to
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Speaker 2: stop the Houti advances Syria the chemical weapons. Also, they
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Speaker 2: were trying to move some of the chemical weapons from
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Speaker 2: Syria into his Bala's hands, very dangerous because Hisbala intended
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Speaker 2: to increase its artisenal with some precision guided missiles, probably
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Speaker 2: about one hundred and fifty thousand missiles pointed at Israel.
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Speaker 2: So we saw that they strengthened their relationship with their proxies,
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Speaker 2: but they also strengthened their relationships with Russia and Turkey
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Speaker 2: and the members of Ezekiel thirty eight, another meeting and
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Speaker 2: the things around the summer of last year with those
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Speaker 2: countries they had several prior after the conclusion of the
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Speaker 2: Syrian Revolution, those countries Russia, Turkey and Iran wanted to
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Speaker 2: kind of navigate through what the future of Syria would
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Speaker 2: look like with respects to their interests involved in Syria
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Speaker 2: as well. They got relationships they established with Saudi Arabia.
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Speaker 2: China brokeer to deal early in twenty twenty three, so
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Speaker 2: also in Saudi Arabia is getting concerned that maybe they
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Speaker 2: need to start making mends with Iran so they don't
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Speaker 2: get new When Iran gets its nuclear program, which by
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Speaker 2: the way, since the disbanding of the JCPOA which was
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Speaker 2: put in nine twenty fifteen, Trump was through in May
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Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen, we find out I think it was,
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Speaker 2: and then I got it written right here. In October
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Speaker 2: we find out of last year twenty twenty three, Iran
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Speaker 2: is noted to have over twenty two times the allowable
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Speaker 2: amount of enriched uranium. A lot of that was up
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Speaker 2: to sixty percent purity, which is just a stone throw
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Speaker 2: away from ninety percent. Matter of fact, we believe at
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Speaker 2: this point Iran could literally have three to five explosion
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Speaker 2: ready nuclear weapons. They cut off inspections. I think it
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Speaker 2: was September of last year from the IAEA, so we
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Speaker 2: don't really know. We don't know if they've got delivery
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Speaker 2: mechanisms to deliver those. They came out and said they
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Speaker 2: have a hypersonic missile last year that could reach Israel
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Speaker 2: in four hundred seconds and carry a nuclear warhead and
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Speaker 2: a hypersonic nuclear weapon miss hypersonic ballistic missile can travel
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Speaker 2: five times the speed of sound four and seconds at
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Speaker 2: six point six six minutes. So they strengthened these relationships
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Speaker 2: even with the United Arab Emirates UAE, who's part of
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Speaker 2: the ARAM records. They were meeting with Iran delegations at
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Speaker 2: the end of last year trying to hedce their bets too,
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Speaker 2: even though they're part of the ARAM records. We want
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Speaker 2: to make sure we're still friends with Iran. Matter of fact,
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Speaker 2: I'll shoot forward into the present. UAE has recently come
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Speaker 2: out and said they're going to restrict the United States
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Speaker 2: from using some of their bases to attack Iranian interest
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Speaker 2: because they don't want to upset Iran. That's in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four. We're still back in twenty twenty three, so
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Speaker 2: Iran has gotten and they also have strengthened their relationship
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Speaker 2: with Russia. I put in the article they were supplying
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Speaker 2: Russia with lots of drones to fight in the Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's really a good point because when you
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Speaker 1: think about the drones, what I find fascinating here is
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Speaker 1: that Russia this greatest superpower. I mean, it is a superpower,
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Speaker 1: no doubt. They have really the most nuclear weapons of
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Speaker 1: really anybody in the world. But yet why is it
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Speaker 1: that they're buying these drones from the country of Iran.
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Speaker 1: So Iran is supplying them these drones, which shows you
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Speaker 1: that Russia doesn't have the k ability to at least
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Speaker 1: manufacture them in their own way, and so they're going
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Speaker 1: to Iran. Again, the superpower is going to Iran to
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Speaker 1: buy these drones. But the other thing that comes up
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Speaker 1: to is, you know, again, Israel's a very powerful military.
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Speaker 1: But what people need to know is that Iran is
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Speaker 1: an extremely powerful military. They have a great infrastructure, their
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Speaker 1: entire a lot of their money is geared towards it.
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, do we know
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Speaker 1: if they have a nuke?
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Speaker 2: They could At this point all indications are that they
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Speaker 2: probably do. Do they have delivery mechanisms. We don't know
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Speaker 2: that just yet. They probably also do. They also open
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Speaker 2: the EGO forty four underground Air Base on the west
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Speaker 2: coast of Iran, which is got you know where they've
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Speaker 2: got other portable rocket launchers buried underground, underground missiles silos,
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Speaker 2: the hypersonic missiles. Of course, that's the closest area to
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Speaker 2: Israel where they could and also defend themselves from Israel
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Speaker 2: and anybody coming from the east the west going eastward
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Speaker 2: toward them anyway. Also, this just came out. They've they've
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Speaker 2: developed an unmanned surface missile, meaning they could launch it
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Speaker 2: from the sea, and the Hooties have these now, not
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Speaker 2: to mention the unmanned aerial vehicles they have to the
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Speaker 2: UAVs that they can use.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been hearing about these these unmanned vehicles and
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Speaker 1: these these unmanned surface vehicles, which is pretty amazing that
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Speaker 1: the Hooties have these now. And that's one of the
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Speaker 1: things that's caused in trouble there with you know, our
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Speaker 1: presence because again what we're what we're trying to do
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Speaker 1: is we're trying to to preserve the shipping and so
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Speaker 1: now you have these unmanned vehicles that are hard to find.
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Speaker 1: I just heard this week or last week that they
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Speaker 1: were four seconds away from getting a bomb on there.
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Speaker 1: And so to me that the Biden administration they seem
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Speaker 1: to be just super super weak on this. So that's
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Speaker 1: I guess that's a question, Bill, Why is the Biden
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Speaker 1: administration Why why are they looking so weakly this.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the Biden administration's primary objective to
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Speaker 2: engage in a massive war, especially with Iran. I think,
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Speaker 2: of course they're continuing as we see in twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: four here recently, the political tract trying to calm things
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Speaker 2: down diplomatically, and they think the cure, all, of course,
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Speaker 2: is a two state solution. Get Israel to comply, give
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Speaker 2: the Palestinians some territory, et cetera. That would help them
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Speaker 2: normalize relationships with Saudi Arabia, and everything could be Hunky
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Speaker 2: Dori and Kumbai. There are the UK and the USA
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Speaker 2: are taking some attacks on the Hutis, some of the
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Speaker 2: cities in the Yemen area, Port City recently, so they
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Speaker 2: are getting a little more aggressive. But you're right, the
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Speaker 2: commerce roughly about twelve percent of natural gas and grains
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Speaker 2: and electronics and things come through that Arabian peninsula there,
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Speaker 2: and big shipping companies like BP and whatnot have stopped
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Speaker 2: shipping through there. That's, of course why we're getting involved
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Speaker 2: from a commercial perspective, so that the world economies can
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Speaker 2: especially American economy, and an election yere can still do well.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's more economically driven than it is
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Speaker 2: protective of Israel. And we see that more and more
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Speaker 2: now as the Biden administration starts seeming at more pressure
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Speaker 2: on Benjamin and Israel to cease fire, to stop going
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Speaker 2: down deep into the guze of the Raphile crossing, et cetera.
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Speaker 2: Two state solution. Matter of fact, as we say through today,
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Speaker 2: the Biden administration is talking about putting together with the
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Speaker 2: Arab States a firm plan firm they say they have
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Speaker 2: a two state solution. He's also threatening to cut back
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Speaker 2: some of the military aid from the United States Israel
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Speaker 2: and kind of trying to box in benjaminqueres him into
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Speaker 2: complying under the impression that that's going to solve all
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Speaker 2: the problems.
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Speaker 1: You know. I mean, it's interesting, Bill, because I think
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Speaker 1: we're pretty intelligent, and we look around and we look
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Speaker 1: at what the Biden administration is doing, and it's it's
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Speaker 1: like they're blinded. Have they not read the charter or
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Speaker 1: do they not know, you know, in trying to force
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Speaker 1: net Yahoo or put pressure on net and Yahoo to
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Speaker 1: do these things and negotiate with these people. I mean
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Speaker 1: all the billions of dollars that have gone in to
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Speaker 1: the Gaza strip and as we know, a lot of
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Speaker 1: the Hamas leaders are wealthy. They're living in Qatar and
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Speaker 1: in these high rises. But yet the Biden administration forgets
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Speaker 1: all this stuff. It's like they're blind I mean, they
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Speaker 1: could have used all that money to build condos and
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Speaker 1: have vacations and everything else. So to me, I look
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Speaker 1: at the Biden administration and I wonder if they're blinded
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Speaker 1: or if they're just simply foolish.
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Speaker 2: The Biden administration only needs to look back in two
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Speaker 2: thousand of the cap Navid summit with Clinton, two thousand
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Speaker 2: and five through two thousand and seven with Bush, to
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Speaker 2: done fourteen with John Carey, secretary of State, with the
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Speaker 2: Obama administration. Every time, even Trump tried a little bit
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Speaker 2: with it too, but of course that didn't he didn't
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Speaker 2: try it at the level that these other guys did.
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Speaker 2: It always fail. There's no way that that's work, and
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Speaker 2: it's not biblically endorsed. And we're going to talk in
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Speaker 2: the latter segment about what's how militarily the end of
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Speaker 2: the year was really conflict is going to be resolved,
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Speaker 2: not politically broker as we move forward. And we talked
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Speaker 2: about last year that one of the big deals last
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Speaker 2: year was Hisbala. His Balla started to engage shortly after
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Speaker 2: the October seventh massacre with Israel. Now they've got about
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand missiles and they've literally launched
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Speaker 2: several thousand since October seventh, around that time October tenth,
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Speaker 2: I think they started at Israel, but they've been predominantly
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Speaker 2: they're less advanced missiles. A lot of them have fallen
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Speaker 2: indiscriminately in fields, have been taken up by Iron Dome.
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Speaker 2: They have caused some problems for Israel, they've killed some people,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. But I'm going to read the reasons why
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Speaker 2: they haven't gone full throttle yet because I think it's
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Speaker 2: a layered campaign that Iran's got going. In Phase two
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Speaker 2: would involve his Balla throwing their firepower. Because last year
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Speaker 2: Israel prepared May twenty second, May have twenty twenty two,
18:59
Speaker 2: Israel did Chariots of Fire military drill, a big exercise
19:03
Speaker 2: preparing for a multi front war with Iran. Has Baula, Syria,
19:07
Speaker 2: Houtis shed mostes in Iraq, and they prepared for massive
19:12
Speaker 2: thousands of missiles. They said, six thousand missiles a day
19:14
Speaker 2: the first couple of days, two thousand effective missiles in
19:17
Speaker 2: the phase two, all kinds of casualties inside of Israel.
19:20
Speaker 2: They were preparing for that even back in May of
19:22
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. That has not happened yet on the
19:25
Speaker 2: level that it could that Israel was preparing for. And
19:28
Speaker 2: what has happened is Isel have got evacuees from the
19:32
Speaker 2: northern part of Israel, Roughly about eighty thousand people are
19:36
Speaker 2: living in hotels now for the last four months. And
19:38
Speaker 2: I've got these bullet points of why I think Iran
19:42
Speaker 2: is basically allowing Hisbolla to just sort of play on
19:45
Speaker 2: a simple level, like a crossdown conflict rather than a
19:49
Speaker 2: massive engagement. I remember in two thousand and six, the
19:53
Speaker 2: summer of two thousand and six, a thirty four day
19:55
Speaker 2: conflict has Bala launched four thousand missiles in the norder
20:00
Speaker 2: in Israel and get most of the residents of the
20:02
Speaker 2: northern Israel and bomb shelters for thirty four days. This
20:06
Speaker 2: they haven't even started on that level yet in Israel,
20:09
Speaker 2: although the evacuations, of course have happened, and Israel, by
20:12
Speaker 2: the way, is saying they're going to have to take
20:14
Speaker 2: out his ball and move them back further so that
20:18
Speaker 2: Israel can start bringing the evacuetions back into their hometown.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is exactly right, because the Latawni
20:25
Speaker 1: River is very important, and they don't want what happened
20:29
Speaker 1: in the south where they were able to break through
20:32
Speaker 1: the wall. They went in and they attacked all the
20:34
Speaker 1: very clear and adjacent cities. Well in the north of
20:37
Speaker 1: the Tawny River from the border of Israel, you know,
20:40
Speaker 1: it can be as short as two miles, and so
20:42
Speaker 1: there's there's thousands and thousands and tens of thousands people
20:45
Speaker 1: that have evacuated up there. And because if they were
20:49
Speaker 1: able to cross and get over the border, they'll have
20:52
Speaker 1: another slaughter in all these cities. So they've evacuated most
20:56
Speaker 1: of those cities. And again they don't want to repeat
20:58
Speaker 1: of what has happened in the south.
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Speaker 2: So what I write in the article about why Hesbella
21:03
Speaker 2: may not be involved on the level as of yet
21:06
Speaker 2: commanded by Iran to go vole throttle, I write these things. One,
21:10
Speaker 2: the goal could be desparaded the IDF thin by diverting
21:13
Speaker 2: troops and important military resources from Israel's north down into
21:17
Speaker 2: the Gaza. We're seeing that happen, although Israel is deployed
21:19
Speaker 2: strongly in the north, but they are being depleted down there,
21:23
Speaker 2: deplete some of vizuels missile defense systems, namely the Iron Dome.
21:27
Speaker 2: And of course, if America starts cutting back on some
21:29
Speaker 2: of the aid, that's going to make it even harder,
21:32
Speaker 2: you know exactly.
21:32
Speaker 1: I think that's something that we need to mention because
21:34
Speaker 1: what the Biden administration again has been doing is again
21:38
Speaker 1: threatening to reduce the resupply of the Iron Dome, the
21:44
Speaker 1: David slaying, they have all these other mechanisms of defense,
21:47
Speaker 1: and so if they don't get resupplied, well they're not
21:52
Speaker 1: going to be ready for when the real Hesible law
21:55
Speaker 1: attack comes, which again they'll launch tens of thousands of
21:59
Speaker 1: me And when that real braj happens, I mean, will
22:04
Speaker 1: Israel be able to keep up with the limited supplies
22:07
Speaker 1: that they have.
22:08
Speaker 2: Right So that's another reason.
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Speaker 1: I think.
22:10
Speaker 2: The other thing too is what it is doing is
22:12
Speaker 2: creating danger and chaos and austerity among the civilians living
22:16
Speaker 2: in northern Israel, forcing these is really to evacuate their
22:19
Speaker 2: homes in towns. What that does it renders them unavailable
22:23
Speaker 2: as combatants should as well initiate a ground war with
22:26
Speaker 2: hand to hand in house to house fighting. It makes
22:29
Speaker 2: them a refugee burden on the Israeli government and society,
22:33
Speaker 2: and Altruism has currently ceased in Northern Israel, devastating the economy,
22:37
Speaker 2: so it's got economic impacts as well. Also, it provides
22:41
Speaker 2: more time for the international community and the Muslim nations
22:44
Speaker 2: within it to further unite in a propaganda media war
22:47
Speaker 2: against Israel, and that's playing totally to Iran's favor. At
22:51
Speaker 2: this point in time. We're seeing not only the Arab countries,
22:54
Speaker 2: but the international community as well as meddling on Israel
22:57
Speaker 2: and how they should fight in this war. And then
22:59
Speaker 2: lastly I wrote, it also gives you on more time
23:02
Speaker 2: to earn their hyposonic balistic missiles with nuclear weapons that
23:05
Speaker 2: are probably already in their Arsenal.
23:08
Speaker 1: Totally agreed, Bill, And let's not move on too quick here,
23:10
Speaker 1: because one of the things that we see again since
23:13
Speaker 1: October seventh is this propaganda war, and Israel is defending itself.
23:18
Speaker 1: They're going in, They're going to clean out Gaza. But
23:21
Speaker 1: what did we see? I mean, I always thought and
23:24
Speaker 1: knew that anti Semitism was still around, but after October seventh,
23:29
Speaker 1: to see all these pro Hamas protests in London and
23:32
Speaker 1: Paris and all these other places, even around the United States,
23:36
Speaker 1: I was shocked at this anti Semitism was there, and
23:39
Speaker 1: this gave it an opportunity to bubble up. And so
23:43
Speaker 1: when we think about that, as we move forward, every
23:46
Speaker 1: time Israel, every day that this goes on, Israel is
23:50
Speaker 1: losing the propaganda war because they're going in there the
23:54
Speaker 1: cleaning house and the world is against them. And so
23:58
Speaker 1: as we continue to watch this, Israel's continue in to
24:02
Speaker 1: be isolated. They're just going to continue to be isolated.
24:05
Speaker 1: Every day that this was on, and we're hearing this
24:07
Speaker 1: could go on for several more months or even another year,
24:10
Speaker 1: and so in that the isolation miserals continuing. The propaganda
24:15
Speaker 1: is going to continue. I mean that really is one
24:17
Speaker 1: of the key things I see right.
24:18
Speaker 2: Now, and even unfortunately the Biden administration is contributing greatly
24:26
Speaker 2: to that propaganda war. I mean, I won't mention the words,
24:29
Speaker 2: but because of the frustration President Biden's had with nan Yahu,
24:33
Speaker 2: he's called him a blankety blank. He just can't get
24:36
Speaker 2: Benjamin Ntyahu to comply with his two state aspiration. And
24:41
Speaker 2: what is this two state supposed to bring. They think
24:43
Speaker 2: it will normalize relationships with Saudi Arabia and the air world. Well,
24:48
Speaker 2: that would take you back to the Air Peace initiative,
24:50
Speaker 2: which is the prerequisite or any relationships with Saudi Arabia,
24:53
Speaker 2: and that involves several things. One is give back land
24:57
Speaker 2: for peace, land that is real acquired in nineteen six.
25:01
Speaker 2: And also as if Saudi Arabia they said, well you'll
25:03
Speaker 2: get in return, Israel give us land and peace for
25:06
Speaker 2: peace for a passing in the state. What you'll get
25:09
Speaker 2: in return is the air of countries will start to
25:11
Speaker 2: normalize relationships with you. As if Saudi Arabia can control
25:14
Speaker 2: all the Muslim hatred throughout all those nations there, they've
25:17
Speaker 2: got no guarantees that they can offer.
25:19
Speaker 1: That exactly that I don't think there's there's any way
25:21
Speaker 1: that Saudi Arabia is going to convince Hamas to change
25:25
Speaker 1: their charters and to change this this hatred. I mean,
25:28
Speaker 1: their their very existence, they're very identity is geared towards
25:33
Speaker 1: removing Israel from the river to the sea. They can't
25:36
Speaker 1: never change that. If they ever do, their entire identity
25:41
Speaker 1: will be will be misplaced. And I mean Israel learned
25:43
Speaker 1: a lot from from two thousand and five leaving there. Now,
25:48
Speaker 1: what do you have? You have four hundred kilometers worth
25:51
Speaker 1: of tunnels all through the Gods of Strip and some
25:53
Speaker 1: of them are going into Egypt. And I mean that
25:57
Speaker 1: really is an amazing thing to see that some of
25:59
Speaker 1: they're going to eat, which means a lot of material
26:02
Speaker 1: and contraband are coming from the Egyptian area. And so
26:07
Speaker 1: will they be able to convince well, Saudi Arabia or
26:11
Speaker 1: even these other if we had this new accords, will
26:14
Speaker 1: they be able to convince the Palestinians? I don't think so.
26:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you mentioned Egypt. I want to spend there
26:19
Speaker 2: in a moment. But like you're saying, you cannot convince
26:23
Speaker 2: all the Muslims who hate Israel to be their friends overnight.
26:28
Speaker 2: The forty five year anniversary of the Iranian Revolution in
26:31
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine was recently celebrated in a parade with
26:35
Speaker 2: chance to death to America and death to Israel. I mean,
26:38
Speaker 2: you don't change that disposition in that region over there.
26:42
Speaker 2: It's been It's an ancient hatred that goes back from
26:45
Speaker 2: time memorial that is now embraced in the religion of
26:48
Speaker 2: violence called Islam. Egypt and Jordan. Right after October seventh,
26:53
Speaker 2: shortly thereafter, both of those countries who have fragile peace
26:57
Speaker 2: duties of Israel sided with Hamas. Basically it's the occupation
27:01
Speaker 2: of Israel, they call it. That is the real culprit
27:04
Speaker 2: and the real problem. And now that we see that
27:07
Speaker 2: Israel is moving its way down and by the way,
27:09
Speaker 2: both countries, let me start with this one. Now that
27:12
Speaker 2: Israel's moving down into the Rafog, crossing the Rofag, take
27:15
Speaker 2: the battle down there where a lot of those Palestinians
27:17
Speaker 2: have had to leave parts of northern Gaza to move
27:20
Speaker 2: down there. There's over a million people now in that area,
27:23
Speaker 2: huddled down there. Biden administration, everybody's going, don't go in there,
27:28
Speaker 2: have a ceasefire, et cetera. Egypt, meanwhile, has said they built,
27:32
Speaker 2: they built high walls, they got forty tanks there they're
27:35
Speaker 2: going to have. They're saying, okay, don't bring don't let
27:39
Speaker 2: these refugees come into our country. We're going to put
27:42
Speaker 2: them in an internment type camp. We're not going to
27:44
Speaker 2: call it a refugee camp because that's more permanent. But
27:47
Speaker 2: the moment they start coming in and filtrating our country,
27:51
Speaker 2: the peace treaty with that we have with Israel could
27:53
Speaker 2: be suspended. And Jordan is saying the same thing, we
27:56
Speaker 2: do not want them in our country as well. These
28:00
Speaker 2: palace Cindians are being forced into exile. They got nowhere
28:04
Speaker 2: to go, and so now the bird becomes Israel's burden,
28:07
Speaker 2: and Israel can't. They're finding some kind of a sanitary
28:10
Speaker 2: war that the world's trying to dictate. Israel can't do that.
28:13
Speaker 1: For the most part, Israel, Israel does not want to
28:17
Speaker 1: annex these places. I mean this is well known. I mean,
28:21
Speaker 1: you know, again, when I was studying modern Israel, I
28:23
Speaker 1: always ask, you know, my professor, well, why doesn't Israel
28:26
Speaker 1: just take over? And he says, they don't want to
28:28
Speaker 1: because they are built on a democracy, which means that
28:31
Speaker 1: if they if they these other areas areas A, B
28:34
Speaker 1: and C. For example, the West Bank, there's a lot
28:38
Speaker 1: of Muslims that live there, and if they go in
28:41
Speaker 1: there in annex they have to give him citizenship, which
28:43
Speaker 1: means then they get a right to vote, and then
28:45
Speaker 1: they're going to vote, and it's going to change the
28:49
Speaker 1: nature of the Kanesset, the parliament in Israel, and eventually,
28:53
Speaker 1: just by sheer numbers of birth, it will become a
28:56
Speaker 1: majority voter. The majority of voters will become Islami and
29:00
Speaker 1: so they could just simply vote out a new constitution
29:02
Speaker 1: or whatever else. So Israel does not want to annex
29:06
Speaker 1: these places. And I mean that really is one of
29:09
Speaker 1: the main challenges as we watch this is will they
29:12
Speaker 1: maintain sovereignty. They have to maintain sovereignty, and we see
29:14
Speaker 1: that again even in the West Bank area, even though
29:18
Speaker 1: the Palestine authority has main authority there, Israel still reserve's
29:21
Speaker 1: right to go in there with the army and to
29:24
Speaker 1: again to bring control or to police these areas if necessary.
29:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so back to the relationship with America and Israel.
29:35
Speaker 2: Of course, many people are very supportive of Israel. Within
29:38
Speaker 2: this country. But back to the Biden administration in general.
29:43
Speaker 2: By one of the things that the hits on initially
29:45
Speaker 2: when Benjamin and Nyahu became the Prime Minister at the
29:47
Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty two was he didn't get invited
29:51
Speaker 2: to the White House. I think it was around September
29:53
Speaker 2: he came over to America. Still didn't meet in the
29:56
Speaker 2: White House. Twenty os I think he met at the
29:57
Speaker 2: United Nations at the seventy eighth meeting urse seventiethh whatever
30:01
Speaker 2: they call it. So still it was a slap there.
30:04
Speaker 2: And then of course after that we have October and
30:07
Speaker 2: now we got the So initially America understood that that
30:11
Speaker 2: they were wrong. The massacre was absolutely terrible, so he
30:15
Speaker 2: supported it. But all of a sudden, now that shoots
30:17
Speaker 2: that hold tide is shifting towards trying to control the situation.
30:21
Speaker 2: And of course, in an election year, a big carrot
30:23
Speaker 2: on the Biden stick would be if I could put
30:25
Speaker 2: together a two state solution, and he's going full throttle
30:28
Speaker 2: in that direction. So I see very grave concerns for
30:34
Speaker 2: this country if we're going to continue pressuring Israel in
30:36
Speaker 2: that direction. You know.
30:38
Speaker 1: So here we are, Bill, We've kind of given some
30:40
Speaker 1: background and the propaganda some of this other stuff that's
30:43
Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty three. And I know that we
30:45
Speaker 1: certainly can't get into all the details as it relates
30:48
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four. And we're not saying it's in
30:51
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. We're saying that these could possibly happen.
30:54
Speaker 1: So again, can't get in every last he toy reverse,
30:58
Speaker 1: but kind of give us, kind of give us a
31:00
Speaker 1: a summer where we can go here for twenty twenty four.
31:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk prophecies that are stage setting and con
31:05
Speaker 2: find fulfillment, even some of them in twenty twenty four,
31:08
Speaker 2: like you said, will caveat and say, we're not saying
31:11
Speaker 2: they will. Basically, the Pandora's box has been opened in
31:15
Speaker 2: the Middle East, the genies out of the bottle. You're
31:17
Speaker 2: not going to be able to put it back, all
31:19
Speaker 2: the pieces back together. Humpty Dumpty has had a great fall.
31:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they smell blood in the water right now,
31:25
Speaker 1: especially Iran. But blood's in the water, and I think
31:29
Speaker 1: the question is are they going to are they going
31:31
Speaker 1: to go or are they going to just go full force?
31:33
Speaker 1: I mean that really is what the question.
31:36
Speaker 2: Is exactly, and all the countries you've been talking about
31:38
Speaker 2: are the subjects of end times, Bible prophecies and regional wars, etc.
31:43
Speaker 2: I know that France, for instance, as we speak, is
31:46
Speaker 2: trying to broker a truce between Lebanon and Israel to
31:49
Speaker 2: try to get six kilometers of space from the northern border,
31:52
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff is probably going to
31:54
Speaker 2: fail because the bottom line is Israel has to do
31:56
Speaker 2: the Iran's nuclear program. That's always been the elephant room there.
32:00
Speaker 2: The Moss conflict is like a hornet's nest. The has
32:03
Speaker 2: Bala Syria contract that they get involved, we're talking about
32:06
Speaker 2: like the Dinna wolves. But the eleph in the room
32:08
Speaker 2: that could stomp Israel out has always been Iran's nuclear
32:10
Speaker 2: program is what it's got to deal with Isbela. So
32:13
Speaker 2: I think another phase is going to come at when
32:16
Speaker 2: Iran fiells the time is right to put unleash its
32:19
Speaker 2: Dinna wolves, Hasbala with its one hundred and fifty thousand missiles,
32:23
Speaker 2: Syria with its chemical weapons and engage in a war
32:27
Speaker 2: with Israel. That's going to probably lead, especially if we
32:30
Speaker 2: continue to choke Israel off with weapon, military aid and
32:33
Speaker 2: stuff from our country to a prison rules fight. They're
32:36
Speaker 2: going to be dealing with an on slought of weapons
32:39
Speaker 2: coming at them that they can't stop. Be a lot
32:41
Speaker 2: of casualties. They were preparing for this. We talked about
32:44
Speaker 2: chariots of fire. I think that could lead to the
32:46
Speaker 2: destruction of Damascus in Isaiah seventeen, which says in verse
32:50
Speaker 2: one of the burden against Damascus, it will cease from
32:52
Speaker 2: being a city. It will be a ruinous heap.
32:54
Speaker 1: It will be.
32:54
Speaker 2: Reduced to rubble. Isaiah seventeen nine says the desolation is
33:00
Speaker 2: caused in other major cities as well as Damascus by
33:03
Speaker 2: the children of Israel, and Isaiah seventeen fourteen says, one
33:07
Speaker 2: that you see Damascus or he in the masculine prona,
33:10
Speaker 2: but in the morning he's no more. It sounds like
33:13
Speaker 2: a tactical nuclear weapon. Israel pulls it off the shell
33:16
Speaker 2: and takes out Damascus. But the question is does that
33:20
Speaker 2: then lead to the greater Aerbisraeli conflict that we find
33:23
Speaker 2: in so Many three and Zachariah twelve and elsewhere, or
33:27
Speaker 2: does that happen to precede Isaiah seventeen. My scenario is
33:31
Speaker 2: what happens at that point in time, is it the
33:34
Speaker 2: it says in Isaiah seventeen four through sixty. You had
33:37
Speaker 2: time to read that.
33:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right here in Isaiah seventeen verse four. So
33:41
Speaker 1: let me read that. In that day the glory of
33:43
Speaker 1: Jacob will be brought low or will wane, and the
33:46
Speaker 1: fat of his flesh will grow lean. And it shall
33:49
Speaker 1: be as when the reaper gathers standing grain and his
33:53
Speaker 1: arm harvest the ears, and as when one gleans the
33:56
Speaker 1: ears of grain in the valley of Rafaem will be
34:00
Speaker 1: left in it, as when an olive tree is beaten
34:03
Speaker 1: two or three berries in the top of the highest bow,
34:07
Speaker 1: four or five on the branches of a fruit tree,
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Speaker 1: declares the Lord God of Israel.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the glory of Jacob Israel will fade, his flesh
34:17
Speaker 2: will wax lean. He's going to get hit. Israel's going
34:20
Speaker 2: to take a hit with all that firepower coming at them.
34:23
Speaker 2: And the scenario I'm putting forward, the idiom the analogy
34:28
Speaker 2: that Isaiah uses. He's talking about things start out okay,
34:31
Speaker 2: like a normal harvest of grain and the weed, which
34:34
Speaker 2: is earlier in the year. Then by the time you
34:37
Speaker 2: get to the grape season there's just cleanings left, not
34:39
Speaker 2: a right harvest by the time you get to the
34:41
Speaker 2: olive season that follows it towards the latter part of
34:43
Speaker 2: the year. In sequence, you have two or three olives
34:48
Speaker 2: in their moost, two couples in the top, and three
34:51
Speaker 2: or four and fruitful branches down more toward the middle.
34:54
Speaker 2: If you superimposed an olive tree on Israel, Northern Israel
34:57
Speaker 2: and Middle Israel. Now on olive tree, you can have
35:00
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand follows on it. So the idiom Isaiah
35:03
Speaker 2: is pointing out is that Israel takes us that were hit.
35:06
Speaker 2: That's why Israel's glory phage, et cetera. I think when
35:10
Speaker 2: that happens in the snario I'm putting forward, that's when
35:13
Speaker 2: you have the other Arab countries going involved in so
35:16
Speaker 2: many three for instance, as countries to share common borders
35:19
Speaker 2: with Israel, Syria, Iran, excuse me, Syria elevenon Jordan, Egypt,
35:24
Speaker 2: study Arabia, the Palestinians, Hamas. Whatever's going to be left
35:28
Speaker 2: to them after this battle, They say to themselves, Israel's hurt.
35:33
Speaker 2: They just took out a major city in Arab City,
35:35
Speaker 2: the longest and continuous, oldest continuously inhabited city and recorded
35:39
Speaker 2: history in Damascus. Are they going to come after be
35:42
Speaker 2: Root and Levan? Are they going to come after Aman
35:44
Speaker 2: Jordan and Cavalo Jordan, Cairo and Egypt, Mecca and Israel's hurt.
35:49
Speaker 2: We need to come together, band together and take israel
35:53
Speaker 2: other hurt and try to defeat them before they take
35:56
Speaker 2: out our cities and pull out another nuclear weapon. And
35:59
Speaker 2: I think that's when you could have of saw May
36:01
Speaker 2: three leading to the Zachari twelve verse two where they
36:05
Speaker 2: try to seize on Judah and Jerusalem. Matter of fact,
36:07
Speaker 2: you might want to read that. That's my scenario. We'll
36:10
Speaker 2: try to get through that and then you can tell
36:11
Speaker 2: me what you think about that.
36:12
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean, for the sake of context, just
36:15
Speaker 1: I'll jump in at chapter twelve Zacharat, Chapter twelve, verse
36:18
Speaker 1: one through three. The Oracle of the Word of the
36:20
Speaker 1: Lord concerning Israel. Thus declares the Lord who stretched out
36:24
Speaker 1: the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit
36:27
Speaker 1: of man within him. Behold, I'm about to make Jerusalem
36:30
Speaker 1: a cup of staggering to all the surrounding peoples. The
36:33
Speaker 1: siege of Jerusalem will also be against Judah. On that day,
36:37
Speaker 1: I will make Jerusalem a heavy stone for all the peoples.
36:41
Speaker 1: All who lift it will surely hurt themselves, and all
36:44
Speaker 1: the nations of the earth will gather against it.
36:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so basically, the Lord who creates heaven and
36:51
Speaker 2: earth in forms of spirit of man within him, basically,
36:53
Speaker 2: if he can do that, he can certainly make Jerusalem
36:55
Speaker 2: a cup of trembling. And so He's going to make
36:58
Speaker 2: Jerusalem a cup of trembling to the surrounding peoples. And
37:02
Speaker 2: in every translation it's clearly talking about the neighborhood. The
37:05
Speaker 2: evil neighbors are surrounding peoples. They're going to try to
37:08
Speaker 2: lay siege on Juja and Jerusalem. And perhaps they feel
37:11
Speaker 2: they can do that in this final effort as a confederacy,
37:16
Speaker 2: because they see Israel's flesh, It's gorya has faded, They've
37:20
Speaker 2: been hurt. They come after it. Go ahead and read
37:23
Speaker 2: in Isaiah as Zacharia fourteen twelve, Zacharie twelve verse six.
37:29
Speaker 1: All right. Zachar Wi twelve verse six says, on that day,
37:32
Speaker 1: I will make the clans of Judah like a blazing
37:35
Speaker 1: pot in the midst of wood, like a flaming torch
37:39
Speaker 1: among the sheaves, and they shall devour to the right
37:42
Speaker 1: and to the left all of the surrounding peoples, while
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Speaker 1: Jerusalem shall again be inhabited in its place in Jerusalem right.
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Speaker 2: So what we're being told there is that the Israeli
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Speaker 2: defense forces, the governors of Judah read that it is
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Speaker 2: really defense forces are going to be empowered by the
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Speaker 2: Lord to defeat the surrounding peoples. And when that war,
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Speaker 2: all the peoples on the right hand and the left
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Speaker 2: hand will be devoured and it will conclude. I believe
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Speaker 2: Somiti three will conclude the air, but is really conflict
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Speaker 2: for sure, and these really defense forces are involved to
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Speaker 2: do that militarily, not politically broken peace deals, and I
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Speaker 2: believe that would be the end game there now. Ultimately,
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Speaker 2: whether or not this is the thing we were talking
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Speaker 2: about before this program, whether Isaiah seventeen precedes Zacharai twelve,
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Speaker 2: or whether that sort of works in tandem, and all
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Speaker 2: these sort of things sort of stay set. You had
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Speaker 2: a good point on that. You kind of thought, perhaps
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Speaker 2: because it talks about a roaring of many nations coming
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Speaker 2: in Isaiah seventeen Verses twelve and thirteen, that they're going
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Speaker 2: to come against Israel, it sounds like, and the Lord's
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Speaker 2: going to rebuke them. Maybe that is the countries around
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Speaker 2: Israel trying to lay siege on it there beforehand, and
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, Syria gets involved in Iran's
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Speaker 2: proxies at that point.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's in reality, you know, well, we're all
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Speaker 1: taking a humble approach here because we don't know exactly
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Speaker 1: the sequence. And what seems to be happening here in
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Speaker 1: my mind is is we're going from Zachari twelve, where
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Speaker 1: we have a siege, and then before we get to
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Speaker 1: verse sixe some we see some things that are all
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Speaker 1: these other passages of scripture coming together. So you know,
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Speaker 1: part of what Zachari twelve to me is a siege
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Speaker 1: probably coincides with psalmighty three, where you have these nations
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Speaker 1: coming together. And so when you see the siege coming,
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Speaker 1: we're going to see Israel get attacked. They're going to
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Speaker 1: go low, they're going to be put on the ropes,
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Speaker 1: so to speak. And this is where I see I
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Speaker 1: don't see Isaiah seventeen or early. I see it here
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Speaker 1: because as so many three happens, and the siege is
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Speaker 1: happening against Judah, it's it's as we know, it's different
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Speaker 1: than Isaiah or Zachari fourteen because it's not a successful siege,
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Speaker 1: as zach Ari fourteen says, which is armageddon. But here
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Speaker 1: you do have a siege. Well, where does Isaiah seventeen
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Speaker 1: come in that the glory of Jacob will wax lean
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Speaker 1: or grow lean the fat of Jacob. I think that's
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Speaker 1: what's happening there. And so when you see that aspect
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Speaker 1: of Isaiah seventeen being squeezed into this, they're up there,
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Speaker 1: up against the ropes. I mean, they are at the
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Speaker 1: last moment. And so what do they do? Well, Isaiah
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Speaker 1: seventeen says, in my mind, Damascus is destroyed, So they
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Speaker 1: launch a nuclear weapon. They have no other choice to
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Speaker 1: up the backs against the wall. Jerusalem. Judah is about
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Speaker 1: ready to be lost, it hasn't been lost yet. In
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Speaker 1: that siege, they launch a weapon. It takes out Isaiah seventeen,
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Speaker 1: and maybe maybe with some coalition factors, they send a
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Speaker 1: rocket over to as Jeremiah forty nine says, the area
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Speaker 1: of Elam. Which then what happens Now everybody's put on notice.
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Speaker 1: Damascus is gone, maybe Aman Jordan is gone, and now
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Speaker 1: Elam has been attacked, and so you have this calm,
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Speaker 1: this moment of calm where now everybody stops. Who is next?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're talking when you talk about Iran. Of course,
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Speaker 2: Iran is a subject of dual prophecies in the End
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Speaker 2: Times Ezekiel thirty eight. Of course this is Persia, which
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Speaker 2: is separate than Jeremied Chapter forty nine, verses thirty four
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Speaker 2: through thirty nine. As Ilam hugs the Persian Gulf side
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Speaker 2: over there, Persia is primarily the rest of Iran, and
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Speaker 2: it says the Lord will break the bow of Ilam
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Speaker 2: at the foremost of the night. So, in other words,
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Speaker 2: when Iran probably gets to the point where they got
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Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon loaded on a warhead, God's not going
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Speaker 2: to allow that to happen because really, like we talked
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Speaker 2: about earlier in the program, God's going to make his
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Speaker 2: holy name known in the midst of his people, Israel.
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Speaker 2: It has to be in Israel. Iran can't take it
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Speaker 2: off the map like it wants to do.
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Speaker 1: And so, yeah, I mean, after these this again, this
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Speaker 1: psalmdy three seventeen, all this happens, then Iran hasn't been
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Speaker 1: annihilated yet. This isn't easy to thirty eight, but they
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Speaker 1: all kind of pause and then however long it takes,
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Speaker 1: they do a regrouping.
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Speaker 2: I believe. So the other thing you talk about the nations,
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Jordan and Egypt for a minute, because
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Speaker 2: they got the fragile peachers of Israel. Somehow, the surrounding peoples.
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Speaker 2: They're involved in Psalmity three under the banner of Moab
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Speaker 2: and Ammen Eaedam that would represent Jordan, and by the
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Speaker 2: ancient names Northern Amen, Dentral Moab Eatam southern and then
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Speaker 2: Egypt seems to be involved under the banner of the
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Speaker 2: Hagarens and Somiti three. But they're all the surrounding peoples
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Speaker 2: that seem to lay siege on jud and Jerusalem and
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Speaker 2: Zacharia twelve verse two. Now Jordan, if you go to
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah forty nine, verse two, I'll talk about it while
42:39
Speaker 2: you're going there. I think what's interesting is that Jordan
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Speaker 2: does seem to be the next one to take a hit.
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Speaker 2: It looks like Israel is not stopping with Damascus. Because
42:51
Speaker 2: we'll go back to Syria in a moment. Now, remember
42:53
Speaker 2: that Aman Jordan, which is what we're talking about. There's
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Speaker 2: a capital of Jordan. We just saw the capital of
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Speaker 2: Syria Isaiah seventeen ceased to being a city, probably a
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Speaker 2: nuclear war warhead. At that point, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: you know, not too far away is themon Jordan, and
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Speaker 2: that becomes a desolate mount and Israel takes possession of
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Speaker 2: its inheritance, which that's part of the promised land from
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Speaker 2: the River of Egypt all the way through to the
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Speaker 2: river Euphrates courses through Iraq and Syria today, so we
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Speaker 2: see that Jordan becomes the next part of this that
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Speaker 2: has not found fulfillment yet, and that certainly does not
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Speaker 2: include the peace treaty with Israel at that point. For
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Speaker 2: some reason, that peace treaty is gone, as per that prophecy.
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Speaker 2: But when you talk about Syria, go ahead and read
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Speaker 2: Jeremi fort nine twenty three through twenty seven concerning Damascus.
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Speaker 1: Hammad and ourpad are confounded, for they have heard bad news.
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Speaker 1: They melt in fear. They are troubled, like the sea
43:52
Speaker 1: that cannot be quiet. Damascus has become feeble. She turned
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Speaker 1: to flee and panic seized her. Anguish and sorrow have
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Speaker 1: taken hold of her as of a woman in labor.
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Speaker 1: How is the famous city not forsaken, the city of
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Speaker 1: my joy. Therefore her young men shall fall in her squares,
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Speaker 1: and all her soldiers shall be destroyed. In that day,
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Speaker 1: declares the Lord of Hosts, and I will kindle a
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Speaker 1: fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall devour
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Speaker 1: the strongholds of Ben Hadad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in my estimation, that's another unfulfilled prophecy. I believe
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Speaker 2: it's a different camera angle on Isaiah seventeen with a
44:29
Speaker 2: little few more details. I'm offen a pod are ancient
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Speaker 2: cities that are probably modern day Aleppo and Hams and
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Speaker 2: Hama area Israel is going to. There's trouble on the sea.
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Speaker 2: It cannot be quiteed if we take that literally, perhaps
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Speaker 2: the Mediterranean Sea where they Israel has dolphin class submarines,
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Speaker 2: now the potential of launching nuclear weapons into Syria. There's
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Speaker 2: trouble on the sea. Well, something happens. She fears, she
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Speaker 2: becomes like a woman in labor Damascus, and civilians are
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Speaker 2: being killed and soldiers being killed as you read that.
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Speaker 2: But he goes on and asks the rhetorical question, why
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Speaker 2: is the city of Praise not deserted? Well, if they're
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Speaker 2: laying siege on Judah and Jerusalem, the city of praise,
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Speaker 2: God's praise, it's Jerusalem. So in other words, they're unsuccessful.
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Speaker 2: They're trying to lay seize on Jujun Jerusalem, and in
45:16
Speaker 2: turn Jerusalem does not get deserted, but Damascus gets destroyed.
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Speaker 2: So I see that as a possible camera angle on
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Speaker 2: that destruction as well. Now read the first verse, and
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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about the next verses in the summary,
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Speaker 2: and I'll have you read verses sixteen through eighteen.
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Speaker 1: But verse one first, All right, I say in nineteen
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Speaker 1: verse one and two on oracle concerning Egypt, Behold, the
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Speaker 1: Lord is riding on a swift cloud and comes to Egypt,
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Speaker 1: and the idols of Egypt will tremble at his presence,
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Speaker 1: and the hearts of the Egyptians will melt within them,
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Speaker 1: and I will stir up Egyptians against Egyptians, and they
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Speaker 1: will fight each against another, and each against his neighbor,
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Speaker 1: city against city, kingdom against kingdom, and the spirit of
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Speaker 1: the Egyptians within them will be emptied out, and I
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Speaker 1: will confound them council.
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Speaker 2: So the Lord is going to fly into Egypt on
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Speaker 2: a swift cloud, meaning when he does judge Egypt, in
46:06
Speaker 2: this judgment, it will be swift. All the things are
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Speaker 2: going to happen. And one of the first things that
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Speaker 2: has happened is brothers going to come against brother Egyptian
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Speaker 2: against Egyptian, neighbors against neighbors, civil strives, city against city,
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Speaker 2: kingdom against kingdom. That's a regional conflict. And as we
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Speaker 2: go through the next verses, we don't know why the
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Speaker 2: Lord's flying in there. Yet we go through the next verses,
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Speaker 2: we find out that Egypt's entire economy, all the political leaders,
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Speaker 2: everybody's confounded, Their economy entirely collapses, the textile industry, the
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Speaker 2: fishing industry, all happening rapidly. We don't know why. We
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Speaker 2: Now I want you to read verses sixteen through eighteen.
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Speaker 1: All right, sixteen through eighteen of I A. Nineteen. In
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Speaker 1: that day, the Egyptians will be like women and tremble
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Speaker 1: with fear before the hand that the Lord of Hosts
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Speaker 1: shakes over them, and the land of Judah will become
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Speaker 1: a terror to the Egyptians. Everyone to whom it is
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Speaker 1: mentioned will fear because of the purpose that the Lord
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Speaker 1: of host has purposed against them. And that day there
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Speaker 1: will be five cities in the land of Egypt that
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Speaker 1: will speak the language of Canaan and swear allegiance to
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Speaker 1: the Lord of Hosts. One of these will be called
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Speaker 1: the city of Destruction.
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Speaker 2: So it talks about Egypt becoming fearful like a woman. Well,
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Speaker 2: that's the same thing that Jeremiah forty and I talked
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Speaker 2: about with Syria. And we're talking about why is this
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Speaker 2: burden coming against Egypt, Why are they fearful like a woman?
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Speaker 2: There's terror in the land of Judah. Well, where are
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Speaker 2: the surrounding people trying to lay siege on Judah and Jerusalem.
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, we're seeing the Israeli defense forces
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Speaker 2: are devouring the people on the left hand. In the
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Speaker 2: right hand Zechariah twelve six, Egypt is fearful like a
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Speaker 2: woman in labor. The Lord is already coming in and
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Speaker 2: leveling the playing field, destroying Egypt's economy, etc. In a
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Speaker 2: swift cloud judgment over Egypt. And so we see it
47:46
Speaker 2: says in that day five cities will speak the language
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Speaker 2: of Canaan. Well, in Jeremiah forty nine, we talked about
47:52
Speaker 2: Israel taking over Jordan. We talked about now it looks
47:55
Speaker 2: like Israel's going to take over because the language of
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Speaker 2: Canaan is Hebrew. Sounds like as result of Isaiah nineteen,
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Speaker 2: they're going to take over five cities in the land
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Speaker 2: of Egia, two which would still be between the River Nile,
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Speaker 2: a big river of Visia, probably the Nile. Thever preates
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Speaker 2: part of the Promised Line, and one almost call the
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Speaker 2: city of Destruction, hinting to the fact that probably Issuel
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Speaker 2: took it took them to task, like they took Aman
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Speaker 2: Jordan and Damascus to task.
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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, oftentimes we talk about the destruction
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Speaker 1: of Damascus, but it seems that the scenario is much
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Speaker 1: wider than that, where they again Isaiah seventeen, they lounched
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Speaker 1: something on Damascus. But again you have Ilam here my
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Speaker 1: forty nine, and we've we've talked about these other passages
48:39
Speaker 1: as relates to Amon Jordan. So it could be a
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Speaker 1: lot wider than that. I mean, again, everybody says Isaiah seventeen,
48:47
Speaker 1: but it could be very, very, very different in what
48:50
Speaker 1: ultimately puts these nations un notice, which causes them to
48:54
Speaker 1: pause a little bit. So I mean, as we wrap
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Speaker 1: it up here, you know, October seventh, we've entered into
48:58
Speaker 1: most likely what we think as a point of no
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Speaker 1: return now that Israel will not cannot ever allow Amas
49:04
Speaker 1: to be back. They're going to resist their national pressure.
49:08
Speaker 1: They have to. There is no partner for peace here.
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Speaker 1: So you know, as we kind of wrap it up here,
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Speaker 1: any final thoughts you might.
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Speaker 2: Have, I concur we talked about how can you put
49:16
Speaker 2: the genie back in the bottle? I mean I don't
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Speaker 2: think so. I mean Israel has got to get those
49:20
Speaker 2: evacuated people back into the northern part of the country,
49:23
Speaker 2: and they will not do that as long as his
49:24
Speaker 2: Balla can do it comparable, if not worse, massacred like
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Speaker 2: Commas did. And you know his ball is ready willing
49:31
Speaker 2: and able to with much more firepower to do that.
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Speaker 2: I think Israel knows they've got to take out Iran's
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Speaker 2: nuclear program. They've got to take out Iran's proxy, says
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Speaker 2: Ball and sering their chemical weapons. How they take them out,
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Speaker 2: probably as prophetic implications and probably the destruction of Damascus.
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Speaker 1: Well, everyone, thanks for listening today. I mean, Bill Solace
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Speaker 1: you know, as relates to the things in the Middle East,
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