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Zelenskyy says he is open to demilitarizing the Donbass · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Ukraine's President, Vladimir Zelenski, says he's willing to withdraw troops
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  Speaker 1: from the country's eastern industrial heartland as part of a
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  Speaker 1: plan to end Russia's war, but he says Moscow must
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  Speaker 1: also pull back to create a demilitarized zone. The twenty
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  Speaker 1: point frameworkers reached drain talks between US and Ukrainian negotiators
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  Speaker 1: in Florida, but there are still key details to be
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  Speaker 1: worked out, and Moscow has yet to approve the plan.
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  Speaker 2: US and Ukrainian negotiators have agreed on a new twenty
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  Speaker 2: point peace plan, a reworking of a twenty eight point
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  Speaker 2: plan seen as too favorable to Moscow. Diplomatic efforts haven't
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  Speaker 2: stop Russia from launching fresh attacks on Ukraine over the
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  Speaker 2: holiday period, which lent an angry tone to President Vladimir
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  Speaker 2: Zelensky's Christmas address. Maya absolute neutrologist.
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  Speaker 3: Joy is not brought by bright illuminations, but simply by light,
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  Speaker 3: the light in our homes and within us. And we
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  Speaker 3: are happy when we hear Christmas music, but even more
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  Speaker 3: so when we do not hear the music of evil,
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  Speaker 3: when we do not hear the drones and missiles flying overhead.
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  Speaker 2: The main points of the US backed peace proposal are
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  Speaker 2: that Ukraine's sovereignty will be reaffirmed, Russia and Ukraine will
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  Speaker 2: sign a non aggression agreement, and the US, NATO and
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  Speaker 2: European countries will provide Ukraine with security guarantees that mirror
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  Speaker 2: Article five of NATO's Mutual Defense Clause. Ukraine will also
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  Speaker 2: maintain its armed forces at their present strength of eight
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand troops, but sensitive issues remain unresolved, such as
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  Speaker 2: territorial control in Ukraine's eastern industrial heartland, along with the
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  Speaker 2: management of the Zaparijia nuclear power plant. Moscow says Putin
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  Speaker 2: has been briefed on the latest reworking.
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  Speaker 4: Based on the information received by the head of State,
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  Speaker 4: we now tend to formulate our further position and continue
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  Speaker 4: our contact and the very near future through the existing
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  Speaker 4: channel currently in operations to conducted.
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  Speaker 2: Moscow rejected calls for a Christmas truth that doesn't stopped
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  Speaker 2: people in Kiev from putting on a festive display despite
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  Speaker 2: the ongoing attacks and the power outages.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, there are problems with light. There is very little
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  Speaker 5: light here. You see everything is beautiful and brightly lit,
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  Speaker 5: but they're on generators. We don't have a generator at home.
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  Speaker 5: We have flight for three hours and I think about
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  Speaker 5: what to cook, how to dress, what to wash for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Although Ukraine, like Russia, is predominantly Orthodox, in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: three it switched the official celebration of Christmas to December
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifth, part of an official campaign to distance itself
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  Speaker 2: from Russian influence and traditions.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not speak to DW Special correspondent Nimisha jaiswall and
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  Speaker 1: she joins us from Kiev. Lemisha another wartime Christmas in Ukraine?
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  Speaker 1: Can you give us more of a picture of the
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  Speaker 1: mood there?
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  Speaker 6: Well to I mean, in many ways, it's like Christmas
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  Speaker 6: anywhere else. There's caroling, there are festive markets like we
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  Speaker 6: saw in that report. There are cakes of all kinds
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  Speaker 6: available in the cafes here in Kiev. But of course
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  Speaker 6: the shadow of the war is never too far. We
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  Speaker 6: have all these generators roaring all the time to keep
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  Speaker 6: up that festive mood, even as apartments and residential buildings
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  Speaker 6: remain dark thanks to continuing power outages. There are reels
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  Speaker 6: online saying, on Christmas, my neighbors send to me missiles
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  Speaker 6: and roans and short enough this morning in Kiev. The
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  Speaker 6: area alarm went off at three am and at six
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  Speaker 6: am on Christmas morning. There were alerts across the country
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  Speaker 6: as well, and President Zelensky had warned to expect holiday
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  Speaker 6: time attacks after Moscow rejected a Christmas time truce, and
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  Speaker 6: this continues through influence the more over here and last
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  Speaker 6: evening as well. In his address, Presidents Lenski said to
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  Speaker 6: the nation that there is a tradition of putting out
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  Speaker 6: a wish on Christmas, and all Ukrainians might wish may
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  Speaker 6: he perish, referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin, but he
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  Speaker 6: said Ukrainians must also come together for a greater wish,
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  Speaker 6: which is a wish for peace and a wish for togetherness.
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  Speaker 1: And one element Ukrainians will be considering is President Zelenski's
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  Speaker 1: twenty point peace plan. How is that being received.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's worth pointing out here that Ukrainians don't necessarily
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  Speaker 6: follow each and every step and development in these peace
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  Speaker 6: plans and these negotiations. We have to remember that these
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  Speaker 6: have been going on throughout this year as alongside with
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  Speaker 6: Russian attacks on the country. So there is a bit
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  Speaker 6: of skepticism when it comes to how quickly these things
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  Speaker 6: will actually come to fruition, but there are broad trends
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  Speaker 6: that can be commented on. In a recent poll, it
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  Speaker 6: showed that seventy five percent of Ukrainians reject the Russian
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  Speaker 6: version of the plan, especially the aspect of a Ukrainian
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  Speaker 6: withdrawal from the Dawn Bass. There has been concessions too,
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  Speaker 6: of course, Ukrainians have broadly agreed to de factor recognition
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  Speaker 6: of the front line, but the main demand is security guarantees,
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  Speaker 6: which this twenty point piece plan does outline. But it's
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  Speaker 6: also interesting to see that most Ukrainians do not expect
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  Speaker 6: this war to end anytime soon. The same poll that
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  Speaker 6: I referred to showed that a third of Ukrainians do
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  Speaker 6: not expect this war to end in twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 6: at all. So even as these negotiations continue on the
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  Speaker 6: ground here there is a fair amount of skepticism because
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  Speaker 6: Russia is not seen as being anywhere close to agreeing
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  Speaker 6: to any of the concessions or the agreements that Ukraine
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  Speaker 6: is offering.
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  Speaker 1: President Zelenski has said he's open to establishing a demilitarized
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  Speaker 1: zone in eastern Ukraine. Do we know what that would
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  Speaker 1: look like practically?
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  Speaker 6: Now that's one of the big ones. Definitely, there has
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  Speaker 6: been more more details emerging, the most clear outline, of course,
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  Speaker 6: coming out yesterday, but Zelensky has been hinting on an
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  Speaker 6: openness to the special economic zone, perhaps as a concession
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  Speaker 6: to the US and President Donald Trump, who has been
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  Speaker 6: pushing for Ukraine withdrawal from the down Bass now. Most specifically,
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  Speaker 6: Zelensky has said, if Ukraine pulls back five kilometers, Russia
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  Speaker 6: must pull back five kilometers, ten kilometers, forty kilometers. These
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  Speaker 6: are three numbers that he gave. That if Ukraine pulls
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  Speaker 6: back that much, Russia must also match that pullback. That
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  Speaker 6: any demilitarized zone must be monitored by Ukrainian police. He
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  Speaker 6: rejects Russian police monitoring this zone. And he has also
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  Speaker 6: said that that any such agreement must be put to
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  Speaker 6: a referendum or be passed by parliament. Now this will also,
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  Speaker 6: of course be hard to pull off. There are concerns
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  Speaker 6: amongst Ukrainian people about such a referendum being carried.
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  Speaker 4: Out at all.
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  Speaker 6: But Zelensky has said that any there are two oftens
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  Speaker 6: on the table, either the what continues or we talk
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  Speaker 6: about potential economic zones Okay, d
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  Speaker 1: W Special Corsman Nimesha Jaswell from Kiev, Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: that update.