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The Most Ridiculous Weather of Baseball · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 3: Ooh, that was good.
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  Speaker 4: Some of that I thought was gonna be really lame,
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  Speaker 4: but it was actually really cool. A few weeks back, Ken,
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  Speaker 4: Griffy Senior and Junior were at the Lakers game because
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  Speaker 4: it was the opening opening night and it was the
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  Speaker 4: first game that Lebron was gonna play with his son,
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  Speaker 4: and I was thinking, I was thinking, oh, it's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be kind of lame, but that was actually cool to
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  Speaker 4: think about. It's like, how often in sports do you
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  Speaker 4: see a father and son play together. There's the amazing
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  Speaker 4: clip of like it's like Senior Crank Giffrey Seniors in
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  Speaker 4: left field. He's gonna get a ball and Griffy Junior
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  Speaker 4: jogs right in front of it and takes.
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  Speaker 1: It from him.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, it's a family affair. The student has become the teacher.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You love to see it. You love to see it.
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  Speaker 1: We also love to see our man himself in the
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  Speaker 1: digital flesh. Folks, it's mister Noel Brown. Hello, Hello, Hello Ben,
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  Speaker 1: you're Ben Bollen here. I've been going by that one
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  Speaker 1: for a minute. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a good one. I think you should
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  Speaker 3: stick with it. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I like the alliteration on it. No one checked me, accustoms.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking in preparation for this episode and in Sports.
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  Speaker 3: Week a sports half a month on ridiculous Story.
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  Speaker 1: We've been going through a spot for sure. I are
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  Speaker 1: a phase. I was thinking about the coolest part of
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  Speaker 1: seeing a live baseball game.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Max hot dogs what it is?
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  Speaker 1: That's the answer at his dancewer Max, of course, is
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  Speaker 1: our our expert sport two out of the three of us, folks.
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  Speaker 1: We know that a lot of us in the crowd
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  Speaker 1: today are big, big sports fans, uh. And if you
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  Speaker 1: have ever had the opportunity to go to a live
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  Speaker 1: baseball game, you will feel that electric energy. Like Noel,
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  Speaker 1: I love the snacks as well. I love the cracker jacks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with the prize at the bottom.
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  Speaker 3: The peanuts and the Cracker Jacks. Yeah, there's a whole
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  Speaker 3: song about it.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, And we're we're talking about baseball today, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: apple pie, baseball is a uniquely American thing.
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  Speaker 3: Nice. That's a callback, folks. Nice. Nice.
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  Speaker 1: We have the immense pleasure of exploring baseball today with you.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to ask you, guys, and I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm sort of stacking the scales here, but I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to ask you guys about the last baseball game you
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  Speaker 1: remember being at in person with my mom and my kid.
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  Speaker 1: The one that I remember most distinctly was when they
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  Speaker 1: have like father Daughter Day at Brave Stadium and we
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  Speaker 1: got to walk the bases and they give out all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of daddy daughter like merch and there was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's pink Brave shirts and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But it was cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's cool to get to go down on the field.
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  Speaker 2: And then I went to another one where remember the
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  Speaker 2: rap artist to quote rap artist Flow Ryder, Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he performed. They were doing a series at Brings Stadium
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  Speaker 2: years ago where they would have like a different band
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  Speaker 2: play after at the end of the game on the
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  Speaker 2: on the field.
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  Speaker 4: So my most recent baseball game was actually not for
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  Speaker 4: our Atlanta team, but for one of the biggest rivals
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  Speaker 4: of Atlanta. I was in a New York City earlier
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  Speaker 4: this year for.
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  Speaker 3: The NBA Draft.
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  Speaker 4: The Alanta Hawks won the draft lottery, so I met
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  Speaker 4: a couple of friends flew in there for that. We're
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  Speaker 4: there and we wanted to go see a Yankees game,
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  Speaker 4: but unfortunately Yankees were just gone. They were on the
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  Speaker 4: road that week, so we settled for the runner up
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  Speaker 4: baseball team in New York. Of course, the New York Mets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who you know, See I know a thing or
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  Speaker 3: two about sport.
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  Speaker 1: Are you doing that Yankee Mets thing?
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  Speaker 3: You have no right? You have no right, Max, You're
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  Speaker 3: not from there.
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  Speaker 4: They're the runner up and just in general. Actually, when
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  Speaker 4: I was at dinner, we went at dinner beforehand and
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  Speaker 4: like one of the one of the waiters recognized this
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  Speaker 4: road away shirt out was wearing, and we talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the Yankees fan. And what I found out is
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  Speaker 4: like Yankees fans and Nick fans are actually pretty cool,
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  Speaker 4: but like the backup teams in New York, their fans
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  Speaker 4: kind of suck. They're the fans that suck. Like the
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  Speaker 4: main team fans are actually pretty cool. Like I like
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  Speaker 4: Yankees fans, I like Knicks fans now. But anyways, to digress,
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  Speaker 4: yeah uh not. Shea stadium was really beautiful ballparks. The
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  Speaker 4: tallest ballpark I've ever been was very tall. It was
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  Speaker 4: right underneath La Guardia, Like there's planes flying over you
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  Speaker 4: at all points. But it was a beautiful ballpark and
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  Speaker 4: it was a the Mets won a big game. It
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  Speaker 4: was right after Grimace Mania had started. I don't I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you guys know about the whole Grimace
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  Speaker 4: Mets grim shake. There was Grimace threw a first pitch
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  Speaker 4: out of a Mets game this year and the season
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  Speaker 4: was going to trash. Then the Mets ended up making
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  Speaker 4: all the way to the NLCS.
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  Speaker 3: They credit Grimace for this stroke of good luck.
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  Speaker 4: It was like a celebrity thing, so like at one
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  Speaker 4: point they're going around, you know, it's New York. Similarly,
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  Speaker 4: can they do this at the Lakers games in LA
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  Speaker 4: where they just show the celebrities throughout the game and
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  Speaker 4: they're going around and at the very end they had Grimace,
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  Speaker 4: who it was like a standing ovation entire state and
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  Speaker 4: going wild to Grimace and I'm like, I'm all, I'm
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  Speaker 4: all four this is this is actually pretty cool right.
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  Speaker 2: Here, Grimace, the McDonald's purple mascot monstrosity who you hipped
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  Speaker 2: us to the fact, is historically actually meant to be
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  Speaker 2: a depiction of a giant anthropomorphic taste bud.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well that's the running theory. Please check out our
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  Speaker 1: series I Know What Happened to the McDonald's Mascots. Also
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  Speaker 1: a quick shout out for all the Mets fans in
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  Speaker 1: New York and surrounding areas.
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  Speaker 3: You guys knew.
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  Speaker 1: I think Noel and I go up to New York
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  Speaker 1: at different times on a fairly regular basis, sometimes at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. Sometimes yeah, when the stars align. And
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  Speaker 1: I was I was hanging out in New York, just
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  Speaker 1: kicking it with cool folks and a buddy of mine.
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  Speaker 1: We were standing on the street and some guy walked
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  Speaker 1: up to him and started beat me here man ching
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  Speaker 1: about the Mets game. And then the guy immediately launched
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  Speaker 1: into an in depth conversation about statistics, the past, the future,
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  Speaker 1: and the present. And then they fist bumped and the
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  Speaker 1: other dude left and I said, oh, you know that guy,
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  Speaker 1: is he going to go with us to this comedy show?
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  Speaker 1: And he said no, I don't know him. It's just
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  Speaker 1: the Mets are for the undergrad.
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  Speaker 3: We're brothers in sport.
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  Speaker 4: That said something I saw so much in New York.
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  Speaker 4: We're walking around with our Hawks here all the time,
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  Speaker 4: and I think, you know, a Hawks fan is something
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  Speaker 4: that people don't believe exists in what in the wild,
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  Speaker 4: Like it's pretty rare. Everyone's like, whoa, they're actually are
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  Speaker 4: Hawks fans. But I would see people and like, they're
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  Speaker 4: so busy you tell it. They have like this deadline
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  Speaker 4: and they're booking it, and they stop and they talk
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  Speaker 4: sports with you for fifteen minutes. It's just part of
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  Speaker 4: the culture. And I really appreciate it. Was awesome sports.
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  Speaker 3: As you fire.
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  Speaker 2: It was about to say, I do sort of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: feel a little bit of fomo about that kind of
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  Speaker 2: camaraderie aspect of it, because I just is not my world.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm learning a lot this week on ridiculous history.
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  Speaker 2: Just pick like baseball. My team will be the Mets now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but we are talking about baseball today
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  Speaker 2: and weather.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, yes, the weather. How dare anyone be a
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  Speaker 1: fair weather fan? Which is a pretty big insult.
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  Speaker 3: You ever heard that? One?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, I always call myself a fair weather gamer,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is okay. I enjoy it, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not obsessed about it, and I don't know all the stats.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not what you would call it a twitch streamer
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  Speaker 2: or anything of that nature. But here's the thing about
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  Speaker 2: weather as it pertains to baseball. It is one of
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  Speaker 2: the sports that is typically played out of doors, and usually,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a football oftentimes will be in like a
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  Speaker 2: covered stadium. But according to the MLB schedule grid in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, there are thirty seven games that were
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  Speaker 2: either postponed, suspended, or canceled due to rain delays that
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  Speaker 2: is in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Alone, or weather delays in general. But I think exactly,
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever had the privilege of living in a
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  Speaker 1: town that has a baseball stadium, then you will naturally
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  Speaker 1: at some point encounter a weather delay, or the whole
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  Speaker 1: enterprise may get rained out, and it turns the stadium
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  Speaker 1: into a weird liminal space. It's like being stranded at
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  Speaker 1: an airport. And we have a story about that for
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  Speaker 1: a different day. Today's episode, which may indeed turn into
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  Speaker 1: a series, is about the strange interaction between weather and baseball.
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  Speaker 1: This is where we get to the concept of something
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  Speaker 1: being mostly outdoors aka the domed Stadium's right.
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  Speaker 2: We did mention at the top that baseball is typically
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  Speaker 2: played out of doors typically, but there are some outlier
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  Speaker 2: type situations, and that is largely because of this thing
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  Speaker 2: called a domed stadium, which has become popular in colder
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  Speaker 2: or higher rainfall areas of the country because of its
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  Speaker 2: ability to kind of take weather out of the equation.
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  Speaker 2: The kind of commonality is the retractable dome stadium, which
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  Speaker 2: is sort of an indoor outdoor situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. The idea is that, depending on
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  Speaker 1: the current environmental conditions, the top of this stadium, this
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  Speaker 1: thing we call the dome, can retract or extend right,
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  Speaker 1: further shielding the players and the audience to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: from the inclement weather. But in the early days of
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  Speaker 1: this concept, the stadium would have an entire dome over it.
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  Speaker 1: It would be an indoor.
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  Speaker 3: Stadium, a fixed dome. Right there we go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk about the astrodome with some
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  Speaker 1: help from our pal Rick over at the Society for
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  Speaker 1: American Baseball Research also known as SABER.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, Rick Schabowski. He talks about a rain now
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  Speaker 2: in the astrodome. How is this even possible? It's domed,
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  Speaker 2: protected from the elements. The Houston Astros don't even have
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  Speaker 2: the traditional rain check printed on their tickets. That's where
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  Speaker 2: that term comes from. Yet on Tuesday, June fifteenth of
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six, the supposedly impossible happened. A game between
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  Speaker 2: the Astros and the Pittsburgh Pirates was postponed because of rain. Ben,
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  Speaker 2: how how did this happen?
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad you and I'm over the moon over
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  Speaker 1: the dome that our research associate Max has helped us
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  Speaker 1: out with the answer, As Rick says, the day of
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  Speaker 1: the game, a powerful thunderstorm developed over the Houston area
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  Speaker 1: and was caused by humid, unstable atmospheric conditions along the
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  Speaker 1: Gulf Coast. These combined with a cold front extending from
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  Speaker 1: the Gulf all the way through Central Texas. It was
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  Speaker 1: similar to a tropical storm. Lots of rain that just
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  Speaker 1: kept coming down. Got to the point where you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: reach the Astrodome because the streets were flooding. Fans couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get to the stadium. The staff working the astrodome, the
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  Speaker 1: folks who sell you those Cracker Jackson hot Dogs, they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get there either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because the stadium itself was actually forty five
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  Speaker 2: feet below ground level, So all of the lower ramps
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  Speaker 2: and entrances you know, into the stadium would have been
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  Speaker 2: absolutely impassable because of the flooding. So Schabowski poses the question,
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  Speaker 2: I think is on all of our minds, how did
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  Speaker 2: the players manage to arrive for the game without major issues?
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  Speaker 2: And he goes on to quote the Astros historian Acosta,
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  Speaker 2: who said that players started arriving around one PM, when
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  Speaker 2: it was still possible to get to the stadium. They
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  Speaker 2: had to be dressed by three or three point thirty.
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  Speaker 2: The Pirates team bus made it through, as did the
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  Speaker 2: Astros coming by themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that again is Astro's team historian, Mike Acosta.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, folks, you can have an entire career as
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  Speaker 1: the historian of a single sports team, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: in some cases a historian for a single individual in
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  Speaker 1: the world of sports. Shout out to everybody right in
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  Speaker 1: their dissertation on Kobe or Tiger as we speak, so
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  Speaker 1: as like you nailed it. As the game is approaching,
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  Speaker 1: the weather is approaching as well. The Pirates and the
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  Speaker 1: Astros get into the venue in just enough time, but
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  Speaker 1: the weather is churning. And this is where we go
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  Speaker 1: to the management of these teams, especially a guy named
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  Speaker 1: tal Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up to him to kind of make the
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  Speaker 2: call to assess the situation, and he decided that it
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  Speaker 2: would be probably the smart move to postpone the game
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  Speaker 2: because of concern for fans and employees' safety, not to
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  Speaker 2: mention the players themselves. So at five PM it was
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  Speaker 2: announced that the game would be postponed essentially due to
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  Speaker 2: a rain delay situation, because it was so heavy and
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't showing any signs of slowing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh nice, Is that a Willy Wonka reference? It asked
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  Speaker 1: to be, so, all right, So here's what happens. The
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  Speaker 1: local news is reporting this, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are obviously aware of the weather and concerned, and the
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  Speaker 1: streets are flooding. People can't make it to the game.
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  Speaker 1: A local TV reporter quote a spokesman for the Astros
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  Speaker 1: who says, this wasn't exactly a rain out, it was
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  Speaker 1: a rain in. We do have This is my favorite
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  Speaker 1: part of the story, though, This is the coolest part
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  Speaker 1: some fans are so die hard that they did make
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  Speaker 1: it to the stadium, and when they did, it was
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  Speaker 1: only about twenty of them. When they did, the Astros
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  Speaker 1: felt so bad that they said, all right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going anywhere, you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Let's I'm stuck. I mean, the players aren't. Yeah, you're right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just grab some nah, you know, let's all have
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  Speaker 1: dinner together. And so they went to the stadium cafeteria
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  Speaker 1: except for the players. The actual baseball players eight on
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  Speaker 1: the field because it was covered and not flooding exactly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this reminds me of like there's that I
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  Speaker 3: think it's in.
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  Speaker 2: The first season of The Sopranos where there's a huge
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  Speaker 2: storm in Jersey, you know, where the Soprano family lives,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone kind of all the main characters end up
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  Speaker 2: at Ardi Buco's restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: Who's the He has gas so.
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  Speaker 2: He can make them their linguini or whatever, and it
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  Speaker 2: becomes this like really lovely kind of family, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: coda for the first season of The Sopranos, And so.
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  Speaker 1: An indoor stadium got rained out. If we go to
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  Speaker 1: infielder for the Astros at the time, Rob Andrews. He says,
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  Speaker 1: even on the next morning, things were far from normal.
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  Speaker 1: The drive home was surreal. No one was on the road.
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  Speaker 1: As I got on the Interstate by the Dome, I
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  Speaker 1: had to weave through abandoned cars left right where they
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  Speaker 1: stole the night before. I couldn't shake the feeling I
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  Speaker 1: was in some kind of world ending disaster flick.
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  Speaker 2: I think some of us here in Atlanta, I've experienced
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  Speaker 2: similar things with the Snowmageddon that that plagued nur Fair
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  Speaker 2: City a handful of years ago. Pretty wild, very post
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  Speaker 2: apocalyptic vibes. Well, let's move on to another story of
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  Speaker 2: whether postponing these sort of end all be all of
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  Speaker 2: baseball events.
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  Speaker 3: The World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the World Series, which again I hold is
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  Speaker 1: an unfair and inaccurate name.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. We talked about that on a recent episode.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you guys so scared of the Hanshin Tigers, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: pointing out.
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  Speaker 4: That Japan one to twenty twenty three World Baseball Classic
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  Speaker 4: of all the United States ever won one.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But there have been throughout the history of this series
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  Speaker 2: multiple games that have had to contend with let's just
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  Speaker 2: call them kind of odd weather anomalies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to nineteen seventy nine, to the
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  Speaker 1: Grand Metropolis of Pittsburgh. The only game in all of
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  Speaker 1: World Series history that was canceled due to snow was
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  Speaker 1: the first game of the nineteen seventy nine Fall Classic
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  Speaker 1: between the Pittsburgh Pirates and Max. Don't put a boo
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  Speaker 1: here the Baltimore Orioles.
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  Speaker 3: I love the Baltimore Oorls. They're all my favorite teams.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, well, don't put a boo, then don't. There's
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  Speaker 3: no need, no no boo, no boo required.
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  Speaker 1: And we're getting a lot of this from Mark Poleo
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  Speaker 1: writing for Aci Weather. Noel, do we have the details
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  Speaker 1: on how snow froze out the World Series?
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  Speaker 3: We do.
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  Speaker 2: Game one was supposed to take placed on a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: October ninth, but was postponed an entire day due to
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  Speaker 2: snow and freezing rain conditions in Baltimore. When it finally
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  Speaker 2: did take place the very next day, the first pitch
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  Speaker 2: temperature was the coldest in history, that is until nineteen
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  Speaker 2: ninety seven, when World Series Game four broke that record.
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  Speaker 3: Rain, however, fell throughout Game one.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely reaked some havoc on the precision of the players.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just say and for reference.
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  Speaker 1: World Series Game four in nineteen ninety seven was between
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  Speaker 1: the Florida Marlins and the Guardians from Cleveland, who were
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  Speaker 1: going under a different name at the.
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  Speaker 2: Time, exactly, and the rain caused six total errors between
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  Speaker 2: the two different teams. Game three also was plagued by
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: rain delays, a sixty seven minute rain delay. However, the
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: series was ultimately won in seven games the Pirates.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels a little bit like trench warfare. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: don't think the players were having the best time ever.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: It was super cold. They had a wintry mix, you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I hate a winter remix. It's kind of a bummer.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: If you think about it, You're like, this is like
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the biggest moment of your life for some of these players,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: and it's an absolute, you know, crapstorm.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Literally not fun, and a winter remix is all the
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: worst parts about cold weather and none of the cool
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: fun stuff.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like snow baseball sounds like it could potentially be
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: fun snowball, not winter remix baseball.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So you can look at an article from The New
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: York Times that gives step by step blows of just
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: how messy this initial postponement was, this back and forth,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and of course are good friends at SABER come in
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to outline just how difficult the conditions were during all
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: seven games, especially Game three. And you're absolutely right, Noel,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it was not an ideal weather condition. But that's why
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: we play baseball outside.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: It's true.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Well, with that in mind, why don't we stick around
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the Burgh that is pitts It's Pittsburgh.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Let's go, thank you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Let's go back just a couple more decades in history
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: and find an even more ridiculous example of weather absolutely
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: greaking havoc with a World Series.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, all right. The final game of the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: World Series in nineteen twenty five was between the Washington
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Senators and the Pittsburgh Pirates. It is considered one of
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the weirdest final I know you don't like the word
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: one of the oddest final games in all of Major
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: League Baseball history.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Oh sure, I like weird. No, I get what you're
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: putting down.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, I gotta say though, a battle between Senators
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and Pirates classics seems like a no brainer. The Pirates
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: are gonna win. Senators are a bunch of squares. Pirates
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: have swords and grappling hooks and eye patches. Yeah, they
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: also have a Senators have notebooks ties.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I mean hopefully some sort of moral compass.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I walk down the street for that one.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, the Pirates also historically will have parkour
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of some sort, right, the sailors parker, which you know
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: they don't know all kinds of knots. Yeah, super into knots,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: those guys. Over forty two thousand fans watched the Pirates
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: try to succeed against a big deal pitcher for the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Washington Senators, a guy named Walter Johnson.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: The Senators had a secret weapon and they they sure do.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: That was like, this guy is their cutless, their sailor's parkour,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: all the stuff you gem at once.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: All world end a one.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's super good at pitching. It's like Walter's
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: main thing. The only problem is that for these thousands
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: of fans, they cannot see the game because there is
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: thick fog and heavy rain, so they're they're just cheering
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: off vibes.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what, there's nothing wrong with vibes based activities.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: We fully support that here on ridiculous history and on
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: stuff they don't want you to know. And then the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: reason they had to resort to vibe checks is because
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: of a thick fog that had descended onto the event,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: which I'm sorry, I'm sticking with my pirates theme here.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: It makes me think of the John Carpenter movie The Fog,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: about ghost pirates emerging from the fog. It sounds like
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: a real spooky situation there, heavy rain and thick fog.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Writers in the press box couldn't even follow the action
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: on the field.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Dude, the guy at the outfield couldn't see the infield.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: You're talking about Goose Goslin. That's not a real person.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Goose Goslin.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That's incredible. He's the both the goose and the is
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: also the gander. I'm sorry, I'm blown away by this name.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: He's the goose for sure.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yet we also see a journalist from the New York Times,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a guy named James Harrison, who was at the scene
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and described the infield as a quote grave of mud.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It was like Woodstock ninety four during the nine inch
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Nails set. Yeah, absolute mud, people.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So there was a weather related controversy that you know
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: how it is when you feel like the authorities at
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a sporting event make the wrong hole. The fans are
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: super pissed.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they can't see much better, So everyone's running
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: off vibes, and the vibes are starting to get nasty.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Tell us what happened.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So in the eighth inning, Keiki Koyler, it was
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: a big deal on the Pirates. He hit a double
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: what's called a ground rule double, scoring the Again, some
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: of these turves are not in my lexicon, but the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: go ahead runs, Max, tell us what a ground rule
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: double and go ahead runs are.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: The ground rule double is when you hit a double
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: that bounces out of play. So instead of people just
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: being able to run because it's out of play, they
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: just give you second base. Go ahead runs. You go aheadhead.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I see, you just wave them on through you.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: To go ahead runs, like you're like, you know, it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: a six to six game. You score a run. You
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: get that run right there, the one that made seven
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: to six, it's a go ahead runs.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: You went ahead.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is bad news for the Senators. This
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: is great news for the Pirates. But our buddy, this
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: senator from the outfield, Goose, uh.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: The Honorable Senator Goose Goslin right from the outfield.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Funny he actually did serve two terms in the US Senate.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: No, he did not look up. Yeah, no one. I
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: believe you. I believed you mean rascal. Hey, I believe
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: in you. Guys. Max. I'm sorry I called you that
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: horrible name. I didn't mean it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So the I think a team called the Rascals would
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: be cool.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: So the issue is the umpires also cannot be authorities
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: at this point, and the Honorable Senator from the outfield,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Goose says to reporters later, look, these umpires couldn't see it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Referring to the play. It was too dark and foggy.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't fair at all. It was not a ground
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: rule double. It was foul by two feet. I know
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: because the ball hit the mud and stuck there. Going
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: back to the earlier grave.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Of mud comment, Ben, this is literally a fog of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: war types that suation is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I love that you pointed that out. I didn't even
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: think about that. So it's it's true that the weather
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: got in front of the game and top of on front,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: on top of Yes, you guys noticed, I stopped saying
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: under the weather and I started saying, the weather is
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: on top of people. I clocked it, Ben, no, you
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: clocked it. And let's end today's exploration with the story
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: of Red Murray.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Little Red Murray.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to the good old days of the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: MLB Major League Baseball and talk about how Weather might
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: have played a significant.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Role in providing one.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Of the most I guess remarkable and kind of beautiful
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: moments in baseball history. Jay Guphro And another excellent name,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Dan Bonk. That's not nominal conterminism. I don't know what is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: That also sounds like a crime in a different language.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Dan Bonk, writing for SABER again, the Society for American
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Baseball Research, he had this to say. This took place
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: at forbes Field, he said. While forbes Field had its
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: share of legendary home runs Masarowski's nineteen sixty Game seven
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: World Series clout and Babe Ruth's final three, the old
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: park was the scene of some memorable defensive moments as well,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: unassisted triple plays by Pirate shortstop Glenn Wright on May seventh,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenty five, and Cub shortstop Jimmy Cooney on May thirtieth,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenty seven, and the bare handed catch made by
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: New York Giant right fielder Red Murray on August sixteenth,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: nineteen oh nine. Not an actual giant, a member of
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the team known as the New York Giants.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: A giant in our hearts indeed. And also this leads
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: us to an interesting side note about when people were
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: allowed to use gloves for a time, just so everybody knows,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in the early days of baseball, it was considered unsportsmanlike
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to use a mit.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Interesting think about cricket. They don't use meths and cricket, Well.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: That's because they're real men. How does cricket work? What
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: is what is a wake?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Right there?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: I know in concept how cricket works, but I have
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: you watched it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I've tried. I can't.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I can watch it and what I've researched and learned
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: doesn't click.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So all right, so we're going to do an episode
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: on cricket. God'd be with us. We'll figure it out
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: because I have to go back. You guys, I was
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: watching that game live and I was doing I was
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: like a Pirates fan in the fog. I was looking around,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: this is true. I was looking around to see when
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: other people were clapping and cheering. I figured out the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: two groups that clapped and cheered at different times. I
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: picked the group I liked the most, and I've beat
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: me Max.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I went with that. Yeah, I agree, I respect that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I respect that. I don't know, adaptable.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: It's also ethically fraud. But this is this is an
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: amazing catch by Red Murray.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: The game, as you said, is between the Giants, who
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: are now the San Francisco Giants and the Pittsburgh Pirates.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: People were already thinking of this as a wizard duel
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: between the pitchers.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a real face off between future Hall of Famer
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: and Via Willis and Christy Matthewson.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: This is definitely a battle between the two pitchers. The
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Giants get an early lead in the top of the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: second inning two to oh, and the Pirates get a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: run in the bottom of the third inning. However, we
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: have to go to the final part of this battle,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: all right, so we're going past the seventh inning. Could
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: we get some seventh inning stretch.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Music and stretch? Yeah, stretch. It's the middle part, right.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It's like the penultimate part, the part when.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: They stopped selling beer.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Ah, is that what happens?
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Not all, not at all statings, but that's commonly.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: It's a good demarcation of time.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you I always thought that, being an Atlanta
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Braves fan, I always thought the seventh inning stretch was
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: when people tried to get in front of traffic.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Is very much, at least a turner field. So the
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: problem that happened at the infamous infield Fly game is
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: the infield fly problem happened right after they stop selling beer.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: So everyone had plenty of projectiles to throw onto the
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: field because they double double bought beer, right yea.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: My my analog for this, and my you know, stadium
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: going life is leaving before the final encore of a band, right.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And so some people may have left during
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that seventh inning stretch, and if so, they must have
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: great historical fomo because at the bottom of the eighth inning,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the Pirates turn the game around. And as they turn
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Around, the weather and the game.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Sorry, well you know it's a mixtape, right, ridiculous one.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: So what happens with the weather bend? It comes down,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: it changes things, the fog rolls in. Let's go back
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to saber Noll. From what I understand, this gave a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: legendary pitcher a bit of a pickle. Christy Mathieson was
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: had a loggerhead.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Huh, yeah, he is. He has to make He's sort
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: of just biting his time a little bit. He's trying
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: to stall. He hopes that the oncoming storm would work
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: in his team's favor. However, and this is from saber
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: legendary umpire Bill clem ordered the bottom of the eighth
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to begin just the same Matthewson delivered the first ball
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: as a crash of thunder, bellow zig zag, flash of
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: lightning lit the darkening grandstands, good writing. Pinch hitter, ham Hyatt,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: these names baseball names. What the heck met the ball
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: and swatted a ringing triple to right field. The fireworks
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: in the sky and on the field were followed by
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a brief lull, during which Ed Abataccio was sent in
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to pinch Ruh for Ham Hyatt. Matthewson did his best
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to kill time, but while the rain held patiently back,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Abaticio came around to score on a sacrifice fly. So
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: this is peak drama for the audience. You know what
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, We've got the thunder, the rain, the lightning.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on the edge of my scene and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I really don't care about sports. As I mentioned, with
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the score tied, they go on. The storm's approach was
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: heralded by multiple thunder his booms like the Costco guys
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: were in the room. The next batter, Tommy Leach, belt
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: at a double to right. Hall of famers to be
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Fred Clark and Honus Wagner I've heard of him, were
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: coming up. The winds kicked up so much dust that
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: the players were barely discernible from the stands.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get in situations, right. This is where the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: rain begins to fall. But the game must continue because
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the umpire called it. So our buddy Mathieson is playing strategy,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I would say, because if you're a pitcher at this level,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you're not just blindly throwing different types of trick balls.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: You're thinking of strategy. So this guy is using kind
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of a chess mentality. He intentionally walks one guy, which
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you can only do if you're a really good and
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: really smart pitcher. As the weather gets worse and worse
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: out there in the dark, Matheson's pitches become increasingly difficult
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to discern. But a guy named dots Miller, since we're
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: doing fun names, dots Miller like dippin' dots. He hits
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: one of these balls out there in the dark and
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: drives it deep into right center. Everybody runs. Our buddy
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Red Murray that we mentioned earlier is sprinting in an
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: all out pursuit, running like Forrest Gump.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Indeed, the writers for Saber go on from the stands.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: The ball looked to be heading for the wall, a
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: home run or at least a two run triple. Seymour
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: pulled up, apparently losing sight of the ball. Murray continued
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: into the gap at full speed, stretching his bare right
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: hand as far as he could, and snared the sailing
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: liner just as another lightning bolt cracked behind him, framing
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: his body in light.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: So imagine this looks like a painting from the Renaissance,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you know, Who've got the right hand extended as if
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: toward God. And then the lightning in the backdrop. And
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: then what's that the ball not in the midt? Is
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: this guy's hand?
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I had to it smarten a little bit, yeah, oh,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sure. And then there comes the rain. It opens
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: up dowses the field. The game was ending in a
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: two to two tie, and one of the most remarkable
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: and as they described the saber picturesque.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Moments in baseball history.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and after the game, right, it's a tie. So
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: in terms of the sport itself, this is not ideal
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: for either team, but this is amazing for fans of baseball,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: fans of the great triumph of sporting pursuits. The local
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: papers are going nuts. People are saying this is the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: greatest catch ever made on a baseball field, ever, never
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: to be duplicated. And these are only three examples, loosely
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: put of weird, weird stuff that has happened on a
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: baseball field. Spoiler alert, folks, a lot of people got
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: struck by lightning.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: My favorite part in what we've talked about today is
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: when they all lay dinner together on the field time.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I'm so hungry right now, I got some fun from
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: yesterday that I'm gonna It's perfect.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I can leave y'all with one. It's when we unfortunately
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: cannot use because it literally happened this past season.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: But it's cut off. Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a game in Arizona earlier this year.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Arizona has retractable rioffins. Also Arizona Arizona Arizona Diamondbacks versus somebody.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I don't remember who they're playing, but right before the game,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: a bee colony took up residence on the field, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah it happened, but this.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Is when it started.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Is great, So they have to get have to get
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: somebody in take care of the bee thing. The game's
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: postponed for like an hour and a half. And you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I watched, you know, a lot of baseball.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: So I thought you were going to say you watch
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of bees, But I mean I watched.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: I watch a decent on bees, and so I was
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: wondering there was there was that, and there wasn't really
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: much on the late window, and I was like, what's
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: going on with this one? So that happens. So they
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: get the guy out there, take like forty five minutes.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: He goes up into a crane, he sprays it down
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: and it gets like a standing applause and the Diamondbacks
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: go around like you know what got your body? So,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: still in his bee keeping outfit, he goes on the
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: mound throws out the first pitch.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: For the game. Oh that's kind of cute. I like that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: We should watch more bees, you guys, Okay, we should
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: start keeping them. Yeah, we should should have a ridiculous
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: history be calling. But let's take turns doing the doing
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the keeping duties.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: It takes a village will be a blended family for bees.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could generate some merch out of it, some
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: ridiculous history candles perhaps, some okay, some ridiculous history, artisanal honeys.
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  Speaker 3: All right, go on. You know, I buy that honey
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  Speaker 3: from a monastery. That's all I've got. It is great.
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  Speaker 1: Those are absolute bangers. We are not joking about generating
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  Speaker 1: an ap area of some sort.
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  Speaker 3: It would be cool.
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  Speaker 1: We just need a little bit of initial investments, seed capital.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little hive capital. Right, so.
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  Speaker 1: So ridiculous historians. Thank you, as always so much for
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  Speaker 1: tuning in. We hope you enjoyed this episode as much
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  Speaker 1: as we did. Big big thanks again to our super
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  Speaker 1: producer and research associate for this one, mister Max.
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  Speaker 2: Williams, indeed Alex Williams, who composed our theme, Christopher Rociotis
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  Speaker 2: and he was Jeff Coates here in spirit.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Aj Bahamas, Jacobs, Rachel Big Spinach, Lance and of course
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: our number one weather delay Jonathan Strickland aka the Quister.
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  Speaker 3: And the Easy Breezy Beautiful cover Girl. That is you,
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  Speaker 3: Ben Shocks. Maybe it's maple Ley. It might be and uh,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see you next time, folks.
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