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From Bullying to 10 Ironmans: JD Tremblay on Resilience, Mental Strength, and the Hunger for More · Ageless and Timeless Podcast®

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, everyone. This is Michelle Hughes from Ageless and Timeless. Today,
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  Speaker 1: I have a guest that is Canadian. Welcome to a U.S. podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've done a few of them, J.D., but J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Tremblay is a... Well, we have so much to say
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  Speaker 1: about who he is because there's a long resume, but
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  Speaker 1: I just want to welcome you and tell you that
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  Speaker 1: I've been reading all about you, and I'm like... I'm
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  Speaker 1: in awe of everything that you have done in your life.
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  Speaker 1: And that says a lot because I, I interview a
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  Speaker 1: lot of very accomplished athletes. So anyway, welcome to ageless
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  Speaker 1: and timeless. And we'll dive in and talk, tell everybody
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  Speaker 1: why I'm in such awe. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Michelle. It's a pleasure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I see. I see that, um, We have the John
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  Speaker 1: David thing. So I asked you before we got on air.
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  Speaker 1: So how did you go from John David to J.D.?
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  Speaker 1: And what what is the ideology of that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair question that I don't get asked
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  Speaker 2: very often. So it's a fair question. It's when I
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  Speaker 2: joined the military. So I come from a French background
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  Speaker 2: in the northern part of Quebec, which it's a really
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  Speaker 2: French community. And I was not, my English wasn't that great.
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  Speaker 2: So I joined the military when I was 17 years
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  Speaker 2: old and all the English speaker had difficulty saying Jean
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  Speaker 2: David or Jean David. And so I switched to JD
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  Speaker 2: quite rapidly and it turned out to be great because
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  Speaker 2: in the military, it was all about last name anyway.
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  Speaker 2: So I switched to JD quite early.
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  Speaker 1: And you never went back to.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I particularly love the French language. So when
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  Speaker 1: anyone's name is Jean David or John David, however they
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  Speaker 1: say it, it's always very sophisticated. And, you know, given
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  Speaker 1: that I have a French name as well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's like a it's a nice combination anyway.
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  Speaker 1: But but J.D. is fine. And well, that's what we're
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  Speaker 1: going to call you. So welcome. And, you know, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Where I want to start, because everybody always wants to know,
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  Speaker 1: who are you? And I mean that in the broadest
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  Speaker 1: possible sense, not just who am I today or yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Who are you in terms of the total being that
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  Speaker 1: has shaped this person that's sitting in front of me today?
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  Speaker 1: So start us from the beginning. I know you had
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  Speaker 1: an interesting childhood. And it brought you to the place
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  Speaker 1: of being this hungry warrior and an amazing athlete. So
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  Speaker 1: give us a little bit of the history of how
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  Speaker 1: that happened. Not only the chronology, but actually deeper into
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  Speaker 1: your spirit.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. So I grew up in the northern part
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  Speaker 2: of Quebec. And I was bullied as a child. Parents
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  Speaker 2: got divorced at a young age. And instead of using
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  Speaker 2: it somewhat to build a victimhood mentality, I joined the
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  Speaker 2: military at a young age, 17. So before I could
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  Speaker 2: even buy a legal pack of cigarette or drink a beer,
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  Speaker 2: I already had a gun and a gas mask and
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  Speaker 2: off you go to basic training. So that's... So I
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  Speaker 2: use this to essentially just transform my life and see
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  Speaker 2: what can I achieve. And eventually I became a human
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  Speaker 2: performance specialist, a person that would always have this deep
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  Speaker 2: hunger and this desire because a lot of people talk
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  Speaker 2: about motivation. They talk about discipline, but few talk about
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  Speaker 2: the hunger, that desire that drives you for the next step,
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  Speaker 2: which is not your why, it's different. It's that deep
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  Speaker 2: desire to know that there is a future, that you
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  Speaker 2: have a meaning in life. And so that's eventually what
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  Speaker 2: I discovered.
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  Speaker 1: So when you went through those steps of being bullied
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  Speaker 1: and having a broken heart, family and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: childhood dissonance, let's say. Where along the way did you
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  Speaker 1: get that decision to make yourself not be a victim,
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  Speaker 1: but actually be the warrior that you are? So were
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  Speaker 1: there people along the way that influenced you or other
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  Speaker 1: than the military, which is certainly a life-changing event, but
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  Speaker 1: were there any particular circumstances that happened that Were your
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  Speaker 1: epiphanies that caused you to become who you are today
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  Speaker 1: in the sense of your dedication and your discipline?
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  Speaker 2: Well, definitely, because from a young age, I grew up
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  Speaker 2: in a Christian environment. So the values were essentially pushed
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  Speaker 2: on me as a child. So it was more of
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  Speaker 2: a dogmatic system. I did not really understand why I
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  Speaker 2: had to wake up on Sunday, which was my day
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  Speaker 2: off from school and then go to another place. And
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  Speaker 2: then I was bullied in the church also. So I
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  Speaker 2: really geared, I shifted gears and moved away from the
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  Speaker 2: church when I joined the military, because I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: the church is even worse than the public or going
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  Speaker 2: to school. But I still remain with somewhat of understanding
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  Speaker 2: of what these values were. So I understood what these
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  Speaker 2: values were. And then I understood that, well, Jesus was
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  Speaker 2: crucified for a reason and he still lived and he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't seen as a victim. He saw it essentially as
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  Speaker 2: the victim the catalyst to essentially bring to life all
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  Speaker 2: the Christians that we have today. And so Jesus Christ
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  Speaker 2: was definitely a huge part, all of these people that
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  Speaker 2: would make this decision to follow him. So I had
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  Speaker 2: to make my research and then there were a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people along the way, but they were in a
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  Speaker 2: sporadic fashion. basically showing me along the way what to
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  Speaker 2: do in that particular step, and then they would move away,
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  Speaker 2: and then I would shift to another mission, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: I would just view my life as nothing stable.
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  Speaker 1: So why were you bullied as a child?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. So I was in... So
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in a.
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  Speaker 2: In an environment where there is no video. Well, it
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  Speaker 2: was the beginning of video games, not a lot of
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  Speaker 2: social media. Facebook did not even exist when I was
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  Speaker 2: growing up. So we only had four channels where I
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  Speaker 2: lived for the television. Some people remember that age. Some
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  Speaker 2: people just don't. I still grew up in an environment
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  Speaker 2: where there was a phone on the wall and not
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  Speaker 2: many people, only the rich people had cell phones. And
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  Speaker 2: you would not have the news on the cell phone.
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  Speaker 2: I was a child star as a child. So I
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  Speaker 2: was known by everybody. but my family was not rich.
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  Speaker 2: So we did not have money for security or for
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  Speaker 2: any type of protection, so to speak. So I would
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  Speaker 2: be going to public school, but yet I'm a star
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  Speaker 2: and then everybody knew me and I would be on
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  Speaker 2: television almost every single night. And so when you're known
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  Speaker 2: around the world, again, you get, I got to learn
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  Speaker 2: that there is a massive fear that a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people have and is the fear of criticism. So I
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  Speaker 2: learned that the criticism of others have to be evaluated,
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  Speaker 2: but it has to be evaluated with some form of
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  Speaker 2: value system that is on a true scale and not
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  Speaker 2: just based on my own perception or the perception of others.
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  Speaker 2: So essentially that's how I was able to accomplish so
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  Speaker 2: many other things that um again there's nothing special about
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  Speaker 2: JD I just follow a system where now I care
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  Speaker 2: less about the criticism of others so it is still
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  Speaker 2: a fear that I consider but I will act on
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  Speaker 2: it if it's a natural and that it's a relevant
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  Speaker 2: fear and that it's a relevant to what I am
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  Speaker 2: going through, not based on what I lived in my past.
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  Speaker 1: But you mentioned that you were very famous, very young.
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  Speaker 1: So what was it that caused you to be famous?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on TV every single night. So essentially,
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  Speaker 2: if you put all of the social media, put them
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  Speaker 2: onto four channels, I was on TV every single night.
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  Speaker 2: So people that would be, they, they would not be
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  Speaker 2: going on their cell phone. There's rarely any cell phone
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  Speaker 2: and everybody's just watching TV and I'm on TV every
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  Speaker 2: single night.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. If that early age, what, what were you on
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  Speaker 1: TV for? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, uh, I was doing commercials. So they, yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: back then, uh, back in the 90s we would have
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  Speaker 2: uh um a show and then you would have commercials
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  Speaker 2: in between and everybody was watching tv or watching the
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  Speaker 2: hockey game or there was always some entertainment on tv
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  Speaker 2: and so i was again seen as this uh image
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  Speaker 2: in front of people, but deep inside there were other
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  Speaker 2: things that were happening in my personal life. I just
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  Speaker 2: had to cope with life. So that's, that's what I
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  Speaker 2: learned essentially is how to cope with life.
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  Speaker 1: This is really fascinating to hear you say this because
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  Speaker 1: in all my reading about you, there was never any
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  Speaker 1: mention that you were a child star. It only mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that you were bullied as a child. You know, that's
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  Speaker 1: what all the bios say on online. So how did
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  Speaker 1: this entertainment side, this opportunity to become a child star,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's difficult because a lot of people are looking
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  Speaker 2: for this moment of glory. They're all looking for this
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  Speaker 2: moment to go viral, to have this show of glory
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  Speaker 2: where everybody knows you. But once everybody knows you, you
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  Speaker 2: have equal amounts of negative coming to you. So that's
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  Speaker 2: what I had to learn at a young age. You
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  Speaker 2: have that positive where people are encouraging you. They're seeing, wow,
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  Speaker 2: you have so much potential. You're a child star. Look
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  Speaker 2: where you can go. Maybe Hollywood, maybe go through your studies.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be known around the world. And now there's no
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  Speaker 2: social media. So the entire attention is directed to the
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  Speaker 2: show itself or the entertainment itself. and the commercials. Those
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  Speaker 2: are the only two ways of, or real entertainment, as
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  Speaker 2: in you're going to the hockey game itself. So those
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  Speaker 2: would be the three entertainment that people had back in
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  Speaker 2: the 90s. Nowadays, we have all sorts of platforms, so
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  Speaker 2: your attention is divided. But imagine that now all the
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  Speaker 2: attention is directed towards JD. So you have this positive
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  Speaker 2: and you have this negative. which is when I went
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  Speaker 2: to the Epic Deca, it was easier to take in
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  Speaker 2: where I received a lot more negative than positive. I've
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  Speaker 2: had people telling me, well, whatever thing that you've achieved,
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  Speaker 2: you should be in a mental institute. And I was
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  Speaker 2: told this many, many times because it seems unreal. I've
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  Speaker 2: had people, I've had clients say, say, well, we don't
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  Speaker 2: agree with your message. There are people that just pushes
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  Speaker 2: this entire narrative away where they don't want people to
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  Speaker 2: push their own personal limit because it can be, you
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  Speaker 2: can injure yourself if you go and push those limits.
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  Speaker 2: But for me, I would.
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  Speaker 1: Like people to be hungry.
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  Speaker 2: Did you walk away from all of.
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  Speaker 1: That to join the military then at age 17?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't recommend it for everybody. I was in
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  Speaker 2: that state of mind where I had to leave. I
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  Speaker 2: had like people bullying me. They were calling my name
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  Speaker 2: all the time and calling me names. And then you
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  Speaker 2: have your parents that are getting divorced. So you're divided
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  Speaker 2: between the two homes. And then there's very little people
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  Speaker 2: that you can talk to about these factors. And so
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  Speaker 2: you have to make a decision. And that decision was
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  Speaker 2: let's join the military. Let's see. I thought the military
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  Speaker 2: would bring me that sense of structure and discipline. And
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  Speaker 2: eventually I realized that the military gives you discipline only
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  Speaker 2: if you follow these systems, if you follow certain structure
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  Speaker 2: and you apply it to your life, not necessarily rely
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  Speaker 2: on the government or on other entities to give you
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  Speaker 2: that discipline. It's up to you to say, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna wait until, there's a better economy or there's a
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  Speaker 2: different president or I'm not going to wait for that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say I am the owner of my decision.
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  Speaker 2: I am a self-determining individual and I'm going to make
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  Speaker 2: my decisions based on the cards there on the table, essentially.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think this is a blueprint for what a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people need and a lot of the people
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  Speaker 1: that watch ageless and timeless are looking for answers. And
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  Speaker 1: it's one thing to talk about answers physically, like how
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  Speaker 1: do I get a better body? Or how do I
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  Speaker 1: lose weight? Or how do I age more slowly? These
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: are all very physical questions. But when it gets into
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  Speaker 1: the deeper spiritual and emotional side, the psychological side, that's
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of people struggle and stub their toe
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  Speaker 1: because they really don't have the blueprint for understanding how
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  Speaker 1: the mental disciplines that are required. So you can be
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  Speaker 1: a great role model for somebody who started out with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of adversity and turned it around and would
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  Speaker 1: never allow himself to be a victim and have used
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  Speaker 1: the disciplines that you taught yourself, really, probably with the
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  Speaker 1: influence of the military and then your schooling and your
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  Speaker 1: other relationships. But the... The reality is the person that's
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  Speaker 1: sitting in front of me today is a very different
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  Speaker 1: person than you were when you were struggling to find
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  Speaker 1: those answers. So this is what we're kind of diving
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  Speaker 1: into today for other people to learn from you, if
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  Speaker 1: that makes sense. So, okay, so how did the engineering
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  Speaker 1: degree and the naturopathic medical, how did that all come?
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  Speaker 1: And at what point did those decisions shape your life?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was after the military. So I've always been
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  Speaker 2: inclined towards the pushing your limits and understanding how can
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  Speaker 2: I be hungry? I just had no idea of the framework.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it became somewhat natural to make these types
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  Speaker 2: of decisions. After the military, I went to get an
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  Speaker 2: engineering degree, integrated engineering from Western University. So it's all
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  Speaker 2: the field of engineering into one program with a specialization
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  Speaker 2: in biomedical engineering. So again, really trying to compartmentalize and
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  Speaker 2: see all of these systems into one so that I
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  Speaker 2: could understand how to utilize them. Because the way I
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  Speaker 2: saw science was that science is a great tool, but
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  Speaker 2: if not utilized, it would be like knowledge. Knowledge is
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  Speaker 2: in power until it's used. And so I saw engineering
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  Speaker 2: more as this form of way to understand the human
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  Speaker 2: body and understand how I could create certain equations or
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  Speaker 2: systems to optimize not only myself, but the human being
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  Speaker 2: and become this human performance specialist. So I went to
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  Speaker 2: get an engineering degree. Then I went to an institute
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  Speaker 2: to become a naturopathic practitioner. And then now I'm working
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  Speaker 2: on my master also in human performance and nutrition to, again,
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  Speaker 2: optimize my performance and get the latest knowledge and make
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  Speaker 2: sure that I can get the best for my clients
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  Speaker 2: and for anybody that I encounter and also to prove
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  Speaker 2: it with what I'm accomplishing.
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  Speaker 1: So where did the athletic side start to play in
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  Speaker 1: for your part of your mission and purpose in life,
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  Speaker 1: which of course has gone to such an extreme degree
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  Speaker 1: that it's almost like you're from another planet. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: let's say, you know, tell everybody right up front. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is a man who ran 10 Ironmen in 10
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  Speaker 1: days in the Hawaiian Islands, right? It's called the Epic Deca, right?
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  Speaker 1: The name of the, what do you call it? The experience. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So why don't you tell us, lead us up to
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  Speaker 1: that point with how did the athletics come into your
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  Speaker 1: protocol to be part of who you are? And then
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  Speaker 1: how did that lead to this most extraordinary level of accomplishment?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair question. So we'll go back just
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  Speaker 2: slightly is when I joined the military, I made this
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  Speaker 2: my identity. and you see it with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: military members or even first responders where, because especially in
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  Speaker 2: the military, they told me you're in the military. So
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  Speaker 2: you're essentially fusing it and it becomes your identity. So
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  Speaker 2: now after the military, when you're removing this somewhat, this capsule,
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  Speaker 2: this shell, where now you're not wearing the uniform anymore,
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  Speaker 2: every day you have to go as a civilian, you
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  Speaker 2: pick your own clothes, you don't decide, you're the one
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  Speaker 2: deciding how to walk, how to breathe, how to eat
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  Speaker 2: or when to eat. You're essentially deciding what are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna do with your life? A lot of people are
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  Speaker 2: struggling with the sense of identity, the sense of meaning
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  Speaker 2: in their life. So to me, my go-to was definitely
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  Speaker 2: to work out. But I did not, I only saw
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  Speaker 2: it as an outlet. And then I was told by
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  Speaker 2: many healthcare professionals that it wasn't healthy. If I'm living depressive,
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  Speaker 2: I should go on maybe medication.
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  Speaker 1: And how.
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  Speaker 2: I was asked this question so many times, even by clients,
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  Speaker 2: is how can you reconcile being depressive and still being
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  Speaker 2: and operating at such an elite and high level and swimming,
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  Speaker 2: biking entire countries? How can you do this and reconcile
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  Speaker 2: it with depressive behaviors or a mindset? And my answer
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  Speaker 2: has always been that It was a coping mechanism. It's
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  Speaker 2: a way that I was coping with life while still
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  Speaker 2: regulating my system. And now I'm able to regulate my
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  Speaker 2: system to a certain degree, but then I keep training
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  Speaker 2: it while I'm in that depressive state. And then I
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  Speaker 2: keep going, but now I'm able to reach another level
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  Speaker 2: And now I'm able to operate in this level. And
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  Speaker 2: now I get to different levels. And at some point,
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  Speaker 2: I just get to a point where my mental health
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  Speaker 2: doesn't catch up to the way that my body can operate.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's how I can explain how I can
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  Speaker 2: reconcile the depressive state.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there is a biochemical explanation as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're obviously in the athletic endeavors. You're... accentuating
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  Speaker 1: your endorphins because those neurotransmitters are going to be fired
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  Speaker 1: up at a pretty high level. So if you have
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  Speaker 1: dopamine and serotonin and the other neurotransmitters that are firing
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: at a high level, that is going to depress your depression.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So they are the warriors that go and fight those
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: demons And so to everybody that's listening today and watching,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: this is not rocket science. I mean, this is part
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of who we are as a physical body. So the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: more you work out or the more strenuous your exercise,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the higher level of endorphins you're going to produce. And
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: then you start feeling better about yourself because you look
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: better and you feel better. And like people who say
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: they haven't slept for years, now suddenly they can sleep again.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Those kinds of things are happening physiologically because of what
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you're doing to your body to test its limits and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to basically not have to take a pharmaceutical drug to
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: cure depression. Did you have to use drugs at the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: time and then got off of them or were you
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: able to do it all without chemicals?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So I... I have to say that if those people
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: suffer from a certain type of condition, I'm not a doctor,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: so if that's what they need, that's what they need.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not to make their own decision, but for myself
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and my experience and as my opinion, I would say
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: is that for me, I did not use any chemicals completely.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: When I say natural, so I would still take creatine
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: and still take protein. I still take certain supplements. So
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I still qualify as a clean water athlete, like a world.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I can still get tested right now. And I was
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: never on a, testosterone replacement therapy or TRT, or I
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: was never on any of these recreational drugs that are
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: legal in Canada, such as marijuana. But yeah, especially as
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: a veteran, you're offered, even in Canada, and Canada is different,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: we're also offered MAID, which is assisted suicide because we
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: have depressive mindset issues. So we're offered not only chemicals,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: but we're also offered to end our life completely.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Wow. I never knew that. Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: But again, I tried to end it by myself, which again,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not recommending to people, but I'm showing the dark
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: side of what it can be like to not find
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: these types of answers. And it was difficult for me.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: And I realized that, again, I was able to operate
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: at a much higher state of mind. You mentioned, again,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: being able to operate with, say, well, you mentioned endorphin levels.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: We could talk about cortisol level. Also, when you wake
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: up in the morning, your cortisol level is really high.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: And so Very often, a lot of people are not
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: wanting to wake up because now they're going to go
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: through this spike, which is natural. But if you're not
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: understanding how to cope with it and regulate it and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: get it back to a baseline that is much more
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: appreciative by your system, where now you're able to function
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: in society, then it will become somewhat uncomfortable. of an
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: anxiety issue for you because you're not able to cope
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: or regulate that specific hormone that is natural for everybody.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: When I wake up in the morning, even though my
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: system is highly regulated and I test my blood, we
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: test so many things for me. I have so much
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: data on what we're doing right now with the research.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm able to regulate it. So I can't imagine
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: someone who's unable to regulate it. Now they're going through
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the cycle of anxiety. So that's why.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Eating right and making sure that you are sleeping, like
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: you said, properly and having these types of systems. That's
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: why we developed a certain system at the Hunger Warrior
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Academy to help these guys really be able to understand
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the general senses of it and then be able to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: dive deeper if that's what they're looking for.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a lot to cover here because you've
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: obviously created many chapters of your life in order to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: be the accomplished human being that you are today. And
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: that includes your Christian faith, which has guided you along
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: the way, the belief in God and belief in yourself
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and your ability to be the best version of who
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you are as a human being. So let's go into
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the 10 days, the 10 days from hell. How did
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: it feel to be doing something that's so stressful. We
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: talk about cortisol. I mean, my goodness, doing that for 10, running,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: or not running, but completing 10 Ironman in 10 days.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: That's like something that nobody could even dream was possible.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So let's tell us, dissect it for us and tell
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: us what it was like. Physiologically, mentally, Just the kinds
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of things that went through your mind as you did
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: day after day for 10 days.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Even my grandfather, I met with him
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: before and I said, I'm going to do 10 Iron
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Men in 10 days on all six Hawaiian islands. And
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: he started crying. He said... oh no, my grandson is
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: going to die. I can't imagine. And I said, grandpa,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: it's going to be fine. I am trained. It's just
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: never been done in the history. And so I'm willing
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to try it. If I can't try, then I'm going
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: to live with the excuses later on to say why
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: I did not even try. So I showed up on the,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: so 10 people were registered. Six people showed up on
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: the start line and three people finished. Now showing up
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: on the start line, I was really confident. You can
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: see it on the pictures online where I was confident
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: in my skills. I had done everything in preparation for
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that race. I had thought about so much everything that
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I paid people right before the Epic Deca to go
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: in the ocean and swim and teach me about the
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: hierarchy of sharks. So I swam without a cage with
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: sharks because I wanted to know how my brain would
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: react if I was face to face with a shark.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. That's So what, did you actually experience that challenge,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that test?
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And the fifth one, yeah. Which is funny because they
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: told me right before the epic deco, in that preparation scenario,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: they said, very often you have some sharks and then
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the dolphins come and then they somewhat, they don't push
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: them physically, but the sharks know that they have to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: move away. And so when I was swimming, I did
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: not stop. I saw the shark and I saw, and
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: then the next stroke, there are some dolphins that came
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: and they did not push the sharks, but you saw
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the shark just moving away. And then the dolphins were
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: right there. And I was swimming with dolphins on the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: 10th Ironman. So it did happen. But again, I was
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: ready to take on that challenge despite all of those
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: challenges that I might face. Now I was ready to
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: get out of the water also if something came that
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I was really in need, but at least I did
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: not stop. I just kept on swimming. I saw a
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: shark and I knew how my system would react, which
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: is why now, even as a firefighter, when I show
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: up on scene and many people were asking me, well,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: how do you regulate your system when you're touching the door,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: it's hot and you're going through and saving people? And
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I said, The preparation is not, the regulation and the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: preparation is not on the spot when there's a fire
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: on the other side. It was a month or even
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: a year before you had to test your equipment. You
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: had to make sure that your system was ready before
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: you get to an emergency. But what happened is that
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: people get distracted with life, with all sorts of ways
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: that their attention is all divided. And then when they
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: get into an emergency, they're not ready. And then they
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: have to cope with the fact that they cannot be confident.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: And so they either live with this small man syndrome,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: so to speak, where now they have to create some
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: form of image And for me, I was ready to
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: not live with that image because I lived it as
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a child. I was a child star, so I did
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: not want to live with that image. I wanted to
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: be a genuine, authentic individual that says I have flaws
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: and I'm willing to look at all these flaws. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: that's what the Epic Decker did is that it tested
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: the man and the authenticity of that man. I was
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: not able to fake any of the social media posts
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: or I was not an image anymore. I was that
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: genuine individual that has flaws and I go daily and
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: try for the next Ironman with new challenges daily.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Was there any time during the 10 days that you
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: thought you might quit?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, I could not. I, because I sold my house.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: So I sold my house so I could afford to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: pay for the Epic Deca. And so I placed myself
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: in a position where many people would say, burn the boats. That's,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I sold my house. So I was in a position
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: where it was do or die, essentially. I had no other,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: like for me, my, that's how I paid for the race. Yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Well, talk about commitment. So when you won, one of
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: three people who completed, was there a prize money so
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: that you could buy your house back or buy another house?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: No. And that was the fun part, I would say.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Now it was fun, but I finished. There were two
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: people present. They were part of my team. I was
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: in the back of a truck eating cut pineapple that
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I was eating during the event. Nobody was there. No clout.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Nobody was there to congratulate me. Even the pictures that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: we snapped with the banner and the epic deco, that
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: was done two hours after I finished the epic deco
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: for show. So nobody was there. And I was expecting
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: that a lot of people would Just reach out to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: me and say, wow, congratulations. And now I would become famous.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: But there was no prize money to answer your question.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Nobody was there. Nobody on social media. And I had
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to build everything from the ground up.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I guess the first question anybody would ask listening to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: that is why? Why something that's so extraordinary? It's as
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: good as an Olympic athlete winning the gold. And yet
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you know, they get stipends for their efforts or, uh,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: for that, that accomplishment. And you, you, well, why is it,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it's not more acclaimed that achievement?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Well, they did not even bring the media. Uh, so
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: they made a, uh, somewhat of a mistake on that part.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: That's what I would say. But again, it's the organizers, they, um,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: It's the perception of other people as well. Like I said,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I've received a lot more negative than positive.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Well, this sounds like a flashback to your childhood. It
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: seems like... Yeah, exactly.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And now I'm able to cope in a much better way. Exactly.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: It's almost as if I was molded by this phenomenon
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: when I was a child. And now I live it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: People tell me, and people that are very affluent, there
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: was a guy once, he had all of the followers
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and I could have ended up just with the snap
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: of a finger, one phone call, this guy could have
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: propelled me to another level. I'm not gonna name him,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: but again, that guy uh told me no i'm not
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: i'm not even saying it to anyone because you sold
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: your house you took all of your money you invest
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: you you i saw it as an investment he saw
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it as a waste of money for an event that
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: would not give me any financial reward right and then
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: uh I did something so extreme that it might even
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: kill people. There are people that died during an Ironman.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Now time that by 10, like I 10X' d it and
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I ended up with no more followers, no money, no cloud.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So he said, he was the first one to tell me,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: you belong in a mental institute, not social media.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I can see why he would say it because I'm
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: sitting here thinking, Why would you ever do something like that?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Because everybody wants the risk reward. I mean, there should be,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I guess for you, you know, that tells you a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: lot about who you are as a character.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: But imagine now, take it at another level. I did
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: a 10 day race. That's pretty much what I did
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: in my entire life. I'm 40 years old. And we're
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: talking about 10 days out of my entire life, essentially.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: And- When you're looking at, let's say a paramedic that
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: shows up at your house and save someone's life and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't get applaud, we're looking at a firefighter that goes
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: through a burning building save someone's life, or maybe sometimes
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: it doesn't even save anybody's life, gets injured and cannot
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: even show up at the fire station. You're looking at military,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you look at a lot of those military stories. We're
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: putting on a pedestal all of these people that go
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: through difficult missions and then come back and they're all fine.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: But really, what about the guy who showed up on D-Day,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: got out of the boat and then got shot in
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the leg and had to go back to the big
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: boat and go back home because he got shot in
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: the leg? Or all of the people that gave their
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: life because you're talking about high reward and it's a
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: huge sacrifice that we're making. But that's what... we're seeking,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: we're seeking that meaning. We're looking for these challenges. That's
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: what we want in life, especially, well, I'm going to
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: speak for the Hungry Warrior Academy. Again, our target market
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: is men. And so we deal a lot with men.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And so that's what these men are looking for. They're
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: looking for these courageous feet. That's what these athletes are
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: looking for. They're looking for, again, you're looking at a,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Olympic athletes, it's not until we started donating as an organization,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: like after the EPICDECA started making more money and then
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: we started the foundation and so giving back. And when
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: we started giving to the Olympic athlete, because you brought
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: it up earlier, the Olympic athletes oftentimes, in my country,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: that's what it is, they don't get money to go
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to the Olympics, so they have to pay for themselves.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to go there. They're forced to buy their own equipment,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: which the equipment is costly. I remember representing Canada. I
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't at the Olympic, but I remember representing Canada at
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: one of their events and I had to buy the
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: full suit and just the full suit was $ 500. And
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I said, I have to buy it. Yes, because you're
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: going to be part of the parade. You're representing your
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: country at that particular world championship. And so you have
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: to pay for your hotel, pay for your meals. You
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: have to pay for all of your training. Very often,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: there's very little reward for all of these sponsored athlete.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: So you're not gonna get a lot of gear or
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: if you get the gear, you're gonna get it at
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: a discount. And so it takes years to build that
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: type of athlete. And what are you gonna get out
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: of it? Maybe you only get the shot at, competing
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: against these people. You only get the shot at maybe
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: being useful to somebody else and saving a life as
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: a firefighter, or maybe having this, like, maybe I'm going
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: to have that. But you eventually learn that we're not
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: doing it for ourselves, but we're doing it so that
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: other people can live. We're doing it so that other
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: people get inspired and have this meaning and this inspiration.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And as a result, I would say, With the sales
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: of the book, it became a bestseller in French, English, Spanish.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: It saved a lot of people's lives because they read
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the book and they said, oh, wow, I'm this person.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Now I... here's how to cope with life. Here are
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: many methods that you can use. Here's a system that
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I use. And I'm no different than anybody else. I
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: just use that system. And so that's how you're learning
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a bit the meaning. And so I developed these systems
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: so that I could be this inspiration for others.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about DECA and how those D-E-C-A letters are
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: used to apply to real life.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, I use them even in my personal life. The
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: system that we created through the Hungry Warrior Academy is
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: an acronym that anybody can use. Okay, male, female, doesn't matter.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Anybody can use. So D is for discipline. E is
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for energy regulation. C is capacity. And A is action. Mm-hmm.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: So when we're looking at all of this system, anybody
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: can use it and it can be even to help you.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe we're talking about longevity. We're talking about ageless. Well,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: that can definitely help you if you have this nightly
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: routine or this routine where you're following it regularly. Well,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that is your discipline. The energy regulation, well, you need
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to talk about your blood chemistry. We need to talk
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: about recovery. Where is your attention divided? where is it focused,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: your inflammation, where's the inflammation, and then your nervous system.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: So those are all part of the energy regulation to
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: be able to, again, you can live longer and a
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: more fulfilled life because you'll be able to accomplish more.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I learned that in university where it's better to have
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: one hour of focused work than than to have five
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: days of scattered mindset. And you're having to juggle between
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: 10 different projects. And although it seems as it is
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: not the reality, but test it for yourself where you
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: have guys, even Alex Hermosi, who talks about it, where
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: when he starts his day, he takes, a few hours
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: where he has no distraction at all. No one can
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: reach to him. And then he shuts himself from the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: world and just goes to work for a few hours.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: So even these guys are doing it. So why are
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you not able to do it? And that we have
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: much less responsibility than a guy such as Alex Hormozy.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Our capacity is understanding where you fit in society, what
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: is your meaning in society? Many people are not in
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the right place. We were told even a few years ago,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: quit your nine to five. And now we have a
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: problem in society where there's not enough workers in the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: nine to five because we all quit our job and
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: thought that it was the right move. But again, there
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: are some people that will be better off working the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: nine to five and then being completely off for the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: weekend than being these entrepreneurs, because we have a lot
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: of people right now that are hurting because they became entrepreneurs.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: And so understanding Where is, again, it's a Christian nonprofit.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: So for us, we use God. And where is God
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: seeing you as being useful as part of the kingdom
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: is the question that we ask all the guys. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: action is the action plan where do you even have
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: a blueprint to create certain actions? Because a lot of
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: people are on this drawing board again and again and again,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: and then they never get to the assembly line and
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: create a certain action to generate a certain profit or
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: money or I'm not just talking finances, but I'm talking
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: about relationship or anything that you want to achieve in
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: your life. Do you even have an action plan and
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: are you even implementing that action plan? And so the
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: DECA system is definitely something that I use in my
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: life and I reevaluate constantly.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: So why, and have you been criticized or why is
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: it that you're only allowing Christian men and not allowing,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: let's just say example, women? Christian women or just anybody,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: regardless of their faith. Do you get criticized for being.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of the game for sure. We analyze
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: what we can do for women as well. One is
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: that men need this space to be able to talk
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to other men. and learn certain coping mechanism from other guys.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: So that's one of those factors. The second one is
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: that our retreats are strictly for men. And that's because, well,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: we only have male individuals that are gonna be coaches
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: or therapists or doctors. And both of our centers are
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: secluded areas to keep the confidentiality for men. And so
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: we want to keep it fair that I've seen other
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: organizations where they include women and you go in the
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: woods with women and men. It just doesn't end well,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: especially as it doesn't fit well with my values. I
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: would have a hard time. I'm not married right now,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: but once I get married, I would have difficulty explaining
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: to my wife that I'm going in the woods with
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: a bunch of women to teach them about coping mechanism
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: for say a weekend or a week. And we offer
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: workshops and when I do public speaking, we're not going
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: to turn away women to be in the room. When
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: we do certain events and they're live, we're not going
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to turn women away. We have certain workshops, even online,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: where we've been asked by women to join. It's the
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: private groups where we only take in men so that
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: they can learn from other men. So those are the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: retreats and the private groups are strictly for men. Our
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: target market is for men, but we have a nutritionist.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: So the nutritionist, She deals with men and women as well,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: but for a target market and for the program, then
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: that's why we only deal with men.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess as a woman and an entrepreneur and
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: an athlete and someone who's always curious to know more
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: and wants to be shoulder to shoulder with the experts.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: So I always look at everybody has something to teach you.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: as well as you have something to teach them. So
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: that's maybe only the point of departure I would have
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: with you because I have been part of the women's
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: movement in a very docile way, not in an aggressive,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: hostile way like so many others were historically. But I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: just believe that women and men should be able to
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: coexist side by side in whatever efforts they do in life.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: And this other part, you know, going into the woods
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: with that, that's unfortunately the, the, the weak, the weak
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: side of human character, because people who are really disciplined
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: and like when I go to the gym, I don't
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: look at anybody, you know, I know there's probably plenty
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: of men that I would be attracted to, but when
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm there for me and I'm there to,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: get the greatest accomplishments I can get out of my
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: physical being. And I don't pay attention to the, the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: other influence, let's call it influences of what might be
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: a temptation. So I guess I'm, I'm, I'm just challenging
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: you a little bit that maybe someday you'll broaden your
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: perspective to allow and trust that men and women can
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: work side by side in the protocols that you're presenting
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: to the men.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean, we do. With the public speaking,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I share the stage. We're going to Las Vegas next week,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: also for the Firefighter Challenge.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to do.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: The World Championship. I.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be with women, so I have no
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: issues with that. When we do public speaking, when we
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: do certain workshops, I have no problem being with women.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: It's just that in those private conversations where the man
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: needs to open up and understand how to cope with life,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: then we open it only to men, and our target
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: market is only to men anyway.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And it really, I mean, J.D., it really is hard
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: to separate a human being.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: In terms of categorize, compartmentalize their personal relationships and how
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: that's affecting them as well as their physical accomplishments.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: You know, because it all adds up to one human creature.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And that person is complicated. I mean, everyone is complicated.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: is influenced by a number of different factors and who
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: they end up becoming as human beings. So I can
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: totally understand your direction and your focus. Yeah.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: But we have workshops online that, uh, our nutritionist, uh,
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: that deals with, uh, the energy regulation for the guys.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: She's going to come in online and we're going to
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: talk about nutrition and how to regulate your energy. So some,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: one of the discussion we had was about energy drinks, right?
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: So she's a female, she studied in nutrition to some institution.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: And so we bring her and then she's the one
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: teaching all the guys about nutrition. And so we have
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: some insightful conversations. So we have women on staff. We
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: have individuals who come in from both sexes and we
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: have no problem with women. It's just that I want
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to make sure that there's a space for men to
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: be able to, again, focus on the task such as
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: maybe a gym that is just for men. Why? It's again,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I think you nailed it completely when you said if
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the human nature that destroys what, again, for me, I
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: correlated with the Bible is that what God has given
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: us We're using our human nature to destroy it. And
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: so we have certain barriers. And while the guys are recovering,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: then to focus just on the gym, and we have
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: just a male environment where we're able to, again, build
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: this framework for the guys to be able to focus
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: on the job, focus on the task that they are
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: recovering from.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: So, you know, one of the things that I'm very
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: involved in, if you look at Top Doctor magazine, when
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: we get off this podcast, if you go to the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: most current issue of Top Doctor magazine, you're going to
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: see a cover with Alex Guerrero, Peter Cummings and Dr.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Patrick Porter. And that article was written by yours truly.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: And it's really focused on Tom Brady because they're all
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady's team. And there are pictures of Tom in
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the article itself. But basically the reason I'm bringing this
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: up is because that article really does focus on a
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: lot of what you're talking about with a big, big
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: emphasis on recovery. So first of all, doing the blood,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the lab tests, you know, that's like a baseline. to
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: know where an individual, before they become part of your
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: consulting group, that you need to know what's going on
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: in their body physically. So for all the safety reasons,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: you don't want to push somebody who has a weak heart,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: let's say, you know, very high lipids or, you know,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: whatever the arterial plaque or, you know, so it's really
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: important to understand and you being a naturopathic practitioner, practitioner
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: you know the importance of of the baseline but then
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the biggest brain part which we're going to get into
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: next is you know how the brain affects the performance
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: and and what are the parts of the brain that
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: are most contributing to excellence and how do you get
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: there and that's where Patrick Porter comes in he's the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: CEO and founder of brain tap so You might even
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: be interested in learning more about them because you could
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: use the brain tap as part of the methodology for
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: improving people's performance using the brain as a, you know,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: obviously the gut brain access these days has become the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: big terminology in longevity medicine is, you know, you have
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: to know what the gut is doing. before you can
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: really assess what the brain is going to do because
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: they interact. But Patrick Porter and BrainTap have joined in
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: with Peter and Alex and Tom Brady to form a
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: company called TBRX. And that's in this article, you can
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: read about it. And basically that is combining the meditative
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: practice and the brain exercises. that the brain tap allows
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: people to do on a daily basis. So have you
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: ever heard of a brain tap before we talk today?
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: No, I have not. No. So that's good that we're
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: talking about it.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I'll do something. Yeah. So let me know after we
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: get off this podcast, if you do go look it
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: up top doctor magazine and let me know if you
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: have any thoughts about how that could maybe be a
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: part of your program. the TBRX. I mean, and I
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: have no affiliation with them, you know, anyway. This is
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: just informational and, well, it's a passion to be able
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: to connect people who can learn from each other and
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: accentuate their purpose and their mission by knowing more. Knowledge
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: is power, right? So, okay, so let's dive into your
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: determination of the brain and how the physiology and the
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: pragmatic side of the brain's performance affect the work that
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I somewhat discovered that everybody is hypnosed in
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: some capacity. where everything that we put into our body
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: becomes the direction that we are going towards. And very
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: often what we do is we put in all of
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: these toxic, sometimes substance or even behaviors So even just
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: watching the news, when you're watching the news, whether you
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: watch it on the left or the right, I'm not
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: trying to build a political debate is irrelevant in this case.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: It's just whichever side you're listening to, you're hypnotizing yourself
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: to go towards one direction. And so that's one example.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And very often what happened, and we can see it
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: with everybody, has driven their car for a very long
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: period of time. And at some point they just realize, eh,
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I'm arrived. And they're surprised that they're arrived. And that's
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: because there is this subconscious mind where you lose track
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: of time. but you're acting in a natural way. So
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: we're able to drive a car, but then you forgot
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: everything that happened. You just were on autopilot, so to speak,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: and then you get to the next level. So that's
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: another example. Well, I imagine that a lot of people
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: are now operating on autopilot. So they wake up in
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the morning, you watch the news or you watch it
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: on your phone and you're watching it from the lens
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: that some people, whether on the left or on the
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: right or whichever, they're trying to bring a narrative to
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: your mind. And then in your subconscious, there's a reaction.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: And so that reaction... it will now generate a certain
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: behavior because now that we could be that now you're surprised.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: So now your pupils are dilated and your heart rate
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: is racing because you watch this news and you were really,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: really surprised that this happened. And then you anticipate that
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: some event will happen as a result of this news.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Now this is the body reaction and now your behaviors
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: are that, well, I wanna cope with life and so
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go drinking. I'm gonna go drink alcohol. It's
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: just that, again, to me, just like I talked about earlier,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I decided, well, when time are difficult, I'm gonna go
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: work out. So mine is healthy. But it can become unhealthy.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And you're seeing it with guys such as David Goggins.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: David Goggins that is now, again, he's 10 years older
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: than me and his body is broken. His mind, well,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: it's difficult for him. Why? Well, yes, he achieved certain
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: things that are very, very difficult. But at the same time,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: there's no types of recovery. And so he's just, it's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: almost as if he only has one gear. So it's
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: not just, it's just an example, again, of what we're
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: doing to our mind. So for me during the Epic Deca,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what I was doing. I pushed all the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: attention aside that I did not need. I contacted some friends.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I said, I have to focus on this Epic Deca.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I love hanging out with you. But I understand some
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: of our conversations can be negative for my mindset during
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: that event. Some guys from the military, old veterans were
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: talking about stories. Sometimes it can get to me. So
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I said, because I don't need this negative mindset, I'm
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: just going to focus on that just for a certain period.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And then after the 10 days, I'll contact you and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: then we'll get to where... we left off and then we'll,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: we'll have a healthy relationship. But at that moment, so I.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Guess that's pretty, that's pretty amazing that you have the,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: the courage, let's say, or the honesty to be able
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: to confront people who maybe don't even realize what you're
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: realizing that, you know, that they're, that the interaction is
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: actually having a deleterious effect and, and that yet you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: still have a friendship that you want to preserve. So
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: how do you dance around that, which is, you know,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: you being completely unfiltered. I mean, telling the truth and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: telling it from your heart. I think that really, I'm sure,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes people don't want to hear the truth
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: and it hurts. And I'm sure you've, you know, quote
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: hurt a lot of people that would rather be in
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: your inner circle, but then, you recognize that you have
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: to be very disciplined and selective about what's going to work.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: But then that doesn't mean, like you said, that you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: can't come back after a certain period of time and resurrect.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: But there is a different, there are different sets of conditions, right,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: when you do that. Because you've been, you've had that
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: one chapter of honesty that says, for the moment, I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: have to be independent of this relationship. Yeah, because I understood.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I was after the military. I saw a psychologist and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: we met and she showed me three wheels and the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: one and then there's big feelings, small feeling, medium feelings.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: And then she said, you really have to look at
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: your feelings and know which one they are. And so
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: you can interact in society. And I really did not
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: like that framework. And so I went away. And when
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I came back, I said, there's a difference between feelings
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: and emotions. Feelings is the experience of life, which if people,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: which that's what she was telling me, if people are
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: looking at their life with a feelings part, then they're
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: going to be completely all... all over the place, but
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: there's an emotional reaction which I can quantify Now I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: talked about being surprised. Well, now I can calculate the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: pupils being dilated. I can calculate my heart rate. There
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: are scientific, measurable, objective data point or data set that
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I can utilize to be a better person. We talked
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: about cortisol. You can test your cortisol in the morning
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: by doing some at-home blood tests. That doesn't cost you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: too much. And then you test it. You understand, okay,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: now I'm at this level, but how can I be
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: at a much... easier level to manage for myself and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: make a custom based decision. And then you're able to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: make better decision, but emotionally not based on feeling. So
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: like you said, I did not feel good about telling
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: my friends that I served in the military. I can't
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: hang out with you right now. I'm blocking you from
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: social media. I'm blocking you from contacting me. because I
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: need to focus on this task and I understand that
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: the emotional reaction will be difficult. So it did not
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: feel good. Definitely I hurt their feelings, but at the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: same time, I understood that my emotional regulation needed to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: be in place so that I could achieve something that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I was called to do, which was the epic deco.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: As soon as I was done, I put these, and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I put these frameworks and these boundaries prior to, so
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: that everybody would understand it, whether they're hurt or not.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: And their feelings are hurt to me as their experience.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: That's the way they're perceiving it. I'm not to criticize
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: how they're feeling. But I also understand that I have
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: an emotional regulation rather than a feeling regulation. I'm not
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: trying to regulate my feelings. My feelings are irrelevant to
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: everybody and should be because my feelings are just the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: experience of life. I want to have the best experience,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: but sometimes the best experience is being scared. Sometimes the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: best experience is living in fear so that you can
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: understand what it's like to live in peace. It's just
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: understanding what type of experience you must live and have
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: to live.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: You know, when you talked, and I think it's in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: your book, which I would love to have you send
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: me a PDF of, I didn't get a chance to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: ask for that beforehand, but I did read a little
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: synopsis of your book. So for everybody that's listening... It's
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: called Hunger for More in Life. It's a long title,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: but I think if you just go to Hunger for
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: More in Life, you'll find your book, right, JD? You
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: don't have to go through Conquer Mental Struggles, Defy. I mean,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: this is all very important. But anyway, if you look
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: at Hunger for More in Life, I think in the book,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm transposing this, but you talk about the brain framework.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: And I wrote down B for blood chemistry, R for recovery,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: A for attention, I for inflammation, and N for nervous system.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Is that correct, what's in the book?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct that we have the BRAIN acronym, part
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: of the Hungry Warrior Academy, for sure. It's part of
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: the energy regulation. That's the framework we use.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're really getting into the biology of resilience,
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  Speaker 1: as well as all the motivational stuff that we're talking about. So,
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  Speaker 1: and then you're getting into the actual biomechanical side of,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: you know, particularly the blood chemistry and the synapses and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: all that. So brain testing has become far more sophisticated
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  Speaker 1: today than it ever was. So it's easy really to understand, well,
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  Speaker 1: who's got, you know, the condition even genetically of, dementia
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  Speaker 1: of APO4 allele, which is the Alzheimer's gene. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like Chris Hemsworth, he just about dropped his whole career
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  Speaker 1: when he found out that he had the positive gene,
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  Speaker 1: but yet that isn't what really is the answer. It's
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: not a life sentence. If you have the gene, that
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're going to get Alzheimer's. It just means
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  Speaker 1: you're predisposed to it, and that means you have to
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  Speaker 1: fight harder to do all the things that are going
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: to prevent that epigenetically. But just quickly go through this
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  Speaker 1: blood chemistry, recovery, attention, inflammation, and nervous system, and how
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  Speaker 1: that acronym brain affects who you are in everyday life.
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  Speaker 1: And so give you as a role model right now,
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  Speaker 1: not that everybody's going to have the same brain chemistry,
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  Speaker 1: but they certainly can look at you in the other
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  Speaker 1: areas of recovery, attention, inflammation, well, maybe not inflammation because
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: everybody has different information, but you would certainly have the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: likelihood of having more inflammation given what you've done to
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  Speaker 1: your body and brain throughout your life and your achievements.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, if you could just give us a quick
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  Speaker 1: synopsis of how you work with that metaphor in your
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  Speaker 1: everyday practice.
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  Speaker 2: As I said, there's nothing different about me. I have
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  Speaker 2: different variables in my equation, but the brain acronym can
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  Speaker 2: be used for everyone, regardless of sex, again, regardless of age.
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  Speaker 2: You can use the brain acronym, whether you're another J.D.
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  Speaker 2: Tremblay somewhere else or you're a child. The blood chemistry...
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  Speaker 2: So I do have red blood cells just like everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: So we're talking about the glucose swings. So what are
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: you putting in your blood, right? That's called absorption. And
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: so when people say you're taking in say magnesium and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: you're putting it in your mouth and it goes through
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: your gut, That's not absorption. That's ingesting a pill. The
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: absorption is what your blood is using. And so there's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a difference behind ingesting a pill of a few milligrams
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: of a substance and how much will be absorbed in
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: your blood, which will change the chemistry of how your
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: blood is utilized to live. throughout your life. And so
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: how much sugar are you putting into your system? Or
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: are you putting it at the right time? Like I said,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: I eat a lot of sugar. We can talk about
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: the amount of sugar that I eat. Even during the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: epic decade, everything was calculated. We're talking about 60 grams
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: per hour. And then there are athletes that go to
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: 120 grams of carbohydrates or a certain type of sugar. Well,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: you would ask anybody else to go through this and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: it would be completely unhealthy for them. But for me,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm using this energy and understanding the timeline, then
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: we're able to have the proper blood chemistry, which is
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: just the E for who Michelle is. So now if
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: Michelle wakes up in the morning and is not gonna
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: use that energy, maybe she should look at eating more
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: fat and protein in the morning, rather than eating a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: beautiful shake with some nice strawberries. Why? Because now her
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: glucose swing would be much different and would not be
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: appropriate for her timeframe. So again, that's just the blood
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: chemistry and we can look at electrolytes or a certain
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: type of inflammation in the blood, the hydration, because water
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: is a massive part of not only your body, but
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: what you ingest and so, Are you drinking the right
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: type of water? Because nowadays we have so many of
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: other things. We have vitamin water, which is pumped with
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of sugar. And so are you really eating
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: or drinking these vitamin water for the vitamin? Just like
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: you're eating Pop-Tarts for the protein? Mm-hmm, right. So it's
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: really understanding your own blood chemistry. Now we're talking at
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: a pragmatic level. If you want to know about the science,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: if we want to know about exactly what are the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: requirements for your specific... Well, that's where you would reach
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: out to some professional where... I'm not here to sell.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: It can be the Hungry Warrior Academy. You talked about
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: the brain tap. So maybe reach out to these other people.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: There are lots of other companies that would be able
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: to coach that person into understanding how they can regulate
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: their energy at a better level. Even with, let's say
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: right now we're talking about the first letter, which is
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the blood chemistry. So it's not just necessarily saying, well,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: JD doesn't have red blood cells. I do. I have
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: the same physiology as people. It's just that I use
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  Speaker 2: it in a way that would cater to my own
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: personal lifestyle so that we created a framework with five
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: easy categories. Those are the main categories for every single
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: person on earth to use it in a custom base
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: for their own personal life. So now you can look
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: at blood chemistry. Then they're looking at their own life.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: How much sodium do I need in the morning? Well,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I know that I need a thousand milligram every single
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: morning because I'm going to go work out right away.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: I know I need 60 grams of sugar. Like I
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: wake up in the morning, I eat sugar and salt,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: which is exactly the contrary that every doctor is saying
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: right now to every patient. Cut the sugar, cut the sodium.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you have this guy who's highly healthy. Well,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: that's because I'm eating it in the way that it's
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: matching what my lifestyle is so that right now I'm
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: not preaching and saying, eat more sugar or eat more sodium.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: I'm saying the blood chemistry is specifically for you. And
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: that's just the first letter.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Well, there's another little tidbit I'm going to give you.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: And then we have to unfortunately end because I just
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: realized we're going over. Tony hasn't signaled me, but I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: can see we're over our time. So let me just
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: tell you, I just interviewed Dr. Joseph Maroon. He's a
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: very famous, you may have heard of him because he's very,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: very famous in the neurology and the neurosurgery. He's done 18,000
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: brain surgeries. But he was also, he's in his mid-80s,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: but he's done 78 triathlons in his life and five Ironmans.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: So I was saying to him the other day that
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: If you added those up, that's like he would have
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: started when he was an infant to do one a year.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: So obviously he's had quite the accomplished life, just like
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: you have. So he'd be somebody you should look into.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: But he's doing some very important studies right now at
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: the University of Pittsburgh. And he'll be, I think today
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: he's live on my Ageless and Timeless. So you can
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: watch the podcast if you go to YouTube or my website,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: And it's really, I think, really important that you do
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: that because he's so full of information, just as you are.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: But one of the things that he's studying right now
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: is glutathione. And as you know, glutathione is the master antioxidant,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: but a lot of people don't understand that it's very
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: difficult to absorb the large molecule in the blood. So
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of people take glutathione, but it never gets
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: to where it's supposed to go. to the liver and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: to the cells. So it is really important what you're
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: studying now is a form of glutathione that crosses the
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: blood-brain barrier. Because as I mentioned earlier, the gut-brain access
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: is now becoming one of the more important elements of performance.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: And so if you want to look at your glutathione levels,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: there's really today not a major testing lab that will
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: give you a result for what your glutathione levels are,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: but you can pretty much know that most people are deficient,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: or at least they need to always supplement with glutathione.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm about to interview a man, a lab CEO,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: who is working with Dr. Maroon on a formula called
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Continual G, and it's going to be more and more available,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: but you can go to their website, Continual G, and
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: it's a way that Dr. Maroon is taking glutathione, two
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: capsules a day, in a formula that has been tested
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: by the University of Pittsburgh and other institutions for its efficacy.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: So yes, you can take an IV of glutathione. Yes,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: you can inject it. Yes, you can try to take
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: it as a pill. But this is apparently a way
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: to get it as an oral capsule that may end
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: up actually crossing, according to Dr. Maroon, does cross the
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: blood-brain barrier. So this is something for you to look into.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, you always want to be at
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: the cutting edge, right, J.D.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll look into it for sure.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so do you take glutathione in any way today
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: for yourself?
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I do not, no.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: So this is maybe a new chapter that you might
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: look into. All right. Well, I can't thank you enough
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: for being with us today and giving us just so
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: much of your wisdom and sharing your experiences as a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: role model for all of us. Not all of us
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: can ever be what you've been, but we can certainly
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: strive to be better than we are. in all of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: our pursuits. So that's really what I get out of
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: your life experience is that you always tested the limits
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: and you never said enough. You always said, I can
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: do more. and I can do it better and I'm
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: going to keep trying. So never give up and always,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: always know that we can strive to be the best
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: that we can be by just keep keeping up the effort.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: So is there any message that you'd like to leave
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: us with today? You know, maybe a one sentence that,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: parting words?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my favorite quote has always been the one I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: live by, which is, if your goals are not scaring you,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: then set the bar higher.
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  Speaker 1: I love that one. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you, J.D.